Should the Supreme Court Allow Us to "Go to Hell"?
Reason's Damon Root on The Long War for Control of the U.S. Supreme Court
"If my fellow citizens want to go to Hell, I will help them," Justice Oliver Wendel Holmes Jr. famously wrote. Added Holmes, "It's my job."
During his talk at Reason Weekend in Santa Barbara, Damon Root, senior editor of Reason magazine and author of Overruled: The Long War for Control of the U.S. Supreme Court, contrasts Justice Holmes' influential legal philosophy with a new wave of contemporary libertarian jurisprudence.
Justice Holmes' persuasive case for judicial restraint is being carried into the 21st century by Chief Justice John Roberts. This view sees the Court tending to defer to the moral authority of democratic majorities and their elected representatives. For example, Obamacare survived a Constitutional challenge in National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius precisely because of Roberts' willingness to yield to the will of legislatures. "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices," he wrote in his majority opinion.
While Roberts makes the case for judicial deference, libertarian jurists advocate defiance. In this view, attorneys like Alan Gura and Randy Barnett argue that the Constitution should prevail over the majority vote. The court's job is to protect people from the consequences of their own choices, if those choices violate the Constitution.
At Reason Weekend, Reason Foundation's annual donor event, Damon Root discussed how these conflicting judicial philosophies have played out in a variety of historically important cases. From Kelo v. City of New London to District of Columbia v. Heller, those who take the deferential side view libertarian legal theory as undemocratic. While libertarians often regard judicial deference as unconstitutional.
It's a debate that's nearly as old as the Constitution itself.
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"It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices," he wrote in his majority opinion.
Depends if your point of view leans toward collectivism or individualism.
I think that that question has been settled for a while.
I'm still chortling over the idea that individuals have an actual choice politically. "Pathetic human #1 or pathetic human #2" is not a choice in anything but the most technical sense. So basically, Roberts is saying he has no intention of, you know, doing his fucking job. And he states it proudly right there. Yay!
They had the choice 3 days ago.
That's a bullshit excuse. People have more than 2 choices in almost every major election, and don't bother with educating themselves on the other choices. And in this case, of course, one of the major parties was staunchly opposed to what would become O-care, and they got pummelled at the polls to a historic degree.
Not that ballot access laws aren't a problem, but even when they are overcome it makes no difference. The ignorance, laziness, and apathy of the people is the problem.
Does not mean I should not be protected from the consequences of the stupidity of the people. Further, campaign finance laws make third parties extremely hard to work.
The premise of a constitutional republic is withholding direct power from those most likely to abuse it, the voting masses, and dispersing it among representatives bound by the strictures of its founding documents. What sense would it make to then argue that the only legitimate function of the courts, one of those delegates, is to rubber-stamp the policies drafted by another set of delegates simply because the latter enjoys some semblance of public imprimatur? Why not dissolve the courts altogether and hand interpretive power over the constitution directly to the political class?
I mean, I realize that's how it's come to work anyway, but why the hell would you want to argue that it should?
Because he's Tulpa. And Tulpa is as Tulpa does.
It's still people all the way down.
The trapdoor in the attics is what these silly boys and girls in the robes don't get because they are mostly educated in old terms and streams on tired streets in those brick-built places on dead-leafed cracking fucked up sheds of tired and unworthy brilliance.
New brains don't emanate from the 7-ups stations of new brains. Minds in the modern have become like franchised beef on corners of old schools of thought spitting emptiness past their collective brains...
With all due respect to the greats wandering like garbage men on the ivy streets and new york bathrooms in the uppity fucking tongues....
minds are working on the voices of the future in the indian spaces, the tired weed farmland expanses, the dark alleys of chef hunting deep great with soups where no fucking hundred millionaire mag writer will ever fucking find.
the future of smart is niche.
He's right. It's his job to protect people from the consequences of other people's political choices.
You didn't build that b-road (?)
Fwiw, I enjoyed the talk, I just realized that spelling out the small flub looks funny.
Rand Paul should consider appointing Damon Root to the Supreme Court should he get elected President.
Rand Paul appointing Janice Rogers Brown would be amazing because progressives would have to attack her for being a libertarian but she's a black woman so the cognitive dissonance might make their heads explode.
It isn't the problem for them that you imagine. JRB does not subscribe to the proper role per progressive dogma, therefore she cannot really be a "black woman" because no "black woman" would hold her views. Therefore progs are free to attack her because her views negate any possibility of her actually being part of their client caste.
This is true. For another example of progs ferociously attacking blacks who don't play for the right team, see their reaction to Colion Noir, the black man who started making pro-gun videos and became an NRA News commentator.
They called him an "Uncle Tom", a "sambo", and everything else. I recall many comments along the lines of "Oh look, the NRA bought themselves an obedient little negro!"
Make no mistake: in the minds of the supposedly anti-racist progressives, all of those people must think alike and religiously vote Democrat. If they didn't, it must have been because some right-wingers paid them off. Because apparently, it's impossible that a black man can arrive at opinions through his own reasoning. It must have been NRA brainwashing.
It isn't the problem for them that you imagine. JRB does not subscribe to the proper role per progressive dogma, therefore she cannot really be a "black woman" because no "black woman" would hold her views. Therefore progs are free to attack her because her views negate any possibility of her actually being part of their client caste.
Damn double-tap.
It's almost like ones views are more important than mere skin color...
If one's views are more important than mere skin color, than one has no right to accuse another odd meeting racist simply for holding improper views. Unless one is a mendacious hypocrite, of course.
Unless you think the views have the effect and intent of harming a race.
And heaven fore fend an individual disagree with the collective.
But you're the One True Libertarian.
You're so tiresomely idiotic. The point is that progressives are constantly behaving as if the identity group you belong to is the most important thing in the world so we're not allowed to criticize any progressive woman or non-white individual without being decried as racists.
Yet if a black woman strays from prog orthodoxy, suddenly they're open to attack and their identity status is irrelevant.
The point is that they're engaged in obvious hypocrisy, but of course Bo has to show up and miss the point.
Yes, because progressives have just been unable to criticize black or women conservative judges and pols!
And yet there's no possibility that Sheldon Richman is self-hating. Right.
Thinking that someone's views might not be good for a group doesn't equal someone who's racist against their very selves.
Doesn't, or can't?
OK, Supreme Court, you go first, to scope out the territory.
Should the Supreme Court allow us?
Once again, we need permission from a government body to do something. Well fuck them, I'd like to see them try to stop me.
Holmes was referring to government, not individuals.
And?
I may have misunderstood your objection - "allowing" a government to do bad things is not the same as "allowing" an individual to do foolish things.
And what does the headline say?
Is this tbe first time youve encountered hyperbole?
So, you're in agreement with Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr?
I personally agree more with Captain Marvel Jr.
If a majority of voters can overrule the constitution, then we have no constitution.
Damn right.
Or, we do not have the parts of the Constitution which grant rights to individuals and states.
Justice Holmes wrote that if what we now know as the Progressive Theocracy were to change public opinion to the belief that we should delete the Constitution and replace it with Communism, then the Supreme Court should not stand in the way.
There was a *constitutional* way to change the constitution, and change it into anything anyone might want.
But the Progressive Theocracy found an easier, unconstitutional way to overthrow the constitutional order when the Supreme Court caved to an all encompassing interpretation of the Commerce Clause under threat of Roosevelt's court packing scheme.
The coup goes down much easier if you keep all the trappings of the original order, and even keep the text of it's laws, but just reinterpret the laws where up is down and black is white.
The constitutional order is overthrown, the facts of power change, but it sorta kinda still looks like the original order if you're not paying attention.
"The constitutional order is overthrown, the facts of power change..." The Progressive Theocracy is the established religion of the US. It's settled law.
You know who else overthrew the constitution. . ?
General Zod?
The coup goes down much easier if you keep all the trappings of the original order, and even keep the text of it's laws, but just reinterpret the laws where up is down and black is white.
But just until the Death Star is completed, then fear, fear of this battle station will keep the unruly states in line...
The constitution is a fucking piece of paper. We never had "it". Pieces of paper are...pieces of paper. We have always had rule of man; fantasies about rule of law were just that: fantasies. It's just that it's getting more obvious as the scumbags in power get bolder and bolder as they get more and more powerful. It's all going exactly as it always does.
Actually, before the Progressive Era we did have a stronger rule of law. It wasn't perfect but that does not mean it was a 'fantasy'.
Who made those constitutions? People. You can't get away from it, whether you have 1 ruler or billions, or even no rulers at all, people still do what they want. Free will, you know.
The Supreme Court ruling on the ACA is an expansion of the federal government's taxing powers.
I still cant believe the Supreme Court rewrote the health care bill and inserted a brand new form of tax in it.
They just expanded the federal government's taxing powers by opening a whole new avenue for them to abuse us.
Government can now require any purchase by taxing people for not purchasing that which our politicians feel like making us purchase.
That was true even before PPACA.
See Wickard vs. Filburn.
"It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices," he wrote in his majority opinion.
Your job is to uphold the constitution, bozo. The people are restrained in their political choices *by construction*, and it's your job to uphold that restraint.
I see that you're confused.
It's the SCOTUS job to uphold the will of our government masters.
If the Judiciary defers to the Legislature, what then is the point of it's existence? How can you balance a branch of government that you think you need to allow to have its way.
moar grammar... 🙁
There is no moral authority of democratic majorities. Any judge that claims there is or that it trumps individual rights should be disbarred. This country is based on individual rights and liberty trumping the opinion of any and all majorities.
It is the job of the Supreme Court to protect the people from unconsitutional laws and mandates. The Court is supposed to be a check against the power of the Executive and Legislature. If it is not doing this job it needs to be reconstituted and/or new Justices installed that understand what their function is.
What debate? There is a very clearly defined process for changing the constitution. If Congress wants to change the constitution, they can follow that process. If Congress wants to pass laws that conflict with the constitution without changing it, it falls to the courts to strike those laws down.
If the Supreme Court has abdicated its authority, perhaps we can save a great deal of money each year by abolishing it? It would normally take the same sort of constitutional amendment Justices Holmes and Roberts do not believe is necessary, but if they're correct in their beliefs Congress could do it with a simple majority.
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SCOTUS should enforce the Constitution as originally written, no more and no less. If it did that, we wouldn't be "going to hell".
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I've never gotten this controversy. Of course where the Constitution isn't clear about a restriction on government you might say that's been left up to the people (or better said, when it explicitly grants power of action). But other than that it's full of prohibitions on government actions, which were enacted by ratifying super majorities. For a court to not enforce such prohibitions would be more of an insult to democratic government.
The federalist papers help spell out a great deal of those things people say "aren't particularly clear" about the constitution.
I like the sentiment, but you still have it ass backwards. The constitution grants certain powers to the government, and only certain powers. Within these powers the congress and president may enact laws. Everything that is not allowed to the government by the constitution is automatically prohibited.
The constitution is very explicit about this. The 9th and 10th amendments were added because it was feared that some future generation might not understand this if it wasn't explicitly stated. Everyone else viewed this as obvious, and worried that passing the other 8 bill of rights amendments might imply that only those rights were protected.
How far we have fallen....
Exactly. It is not a difficult concept. Powers not granted, ARE NOT FUCKING GRANTED. Apparently, a 'constitutional scholar' like Obama can't figure that out.
That kind of shit is going to lead us to a very unpleasant reckoning. Either giving in to Soros and his ilk, or slaughtering them when they finally force the situation. And that day is drawing ever closer.
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You're taking Roberts' "not our job" quote completely out of context.
opinion text
(immediately following the above)
He is not advocating for Holmesian judicial deference, he's saying that just because a law is stupid or has unfortunate consequences does not mean the Court should strike it down. Which is kind of hard to argue with.
In fact it shouldn't be argued with. If a law has constitutional backing but is stupid.... Not their job.
The view of what that authority actually entails is a different matter. The courts have definitely moved into a "if the bill of rights (or my personal view of civil liberties) doesn't prohibit the government from taking this action, it is allowed" view of the law.
This is where the problem comes in. In the famous "can the government force you to buy broccoli?" thought experiment debate, most of the court seems to be coming down on the side of "yes" - particularly when the metaphorical broccoli is something they favor. Even Scalia who has used it as a skeptical argument. Most of what the Federal government does at this time is clearly, patently unconstitutional - even the stuff that everybody supports.
No, you fucking moron, it's your job to protect people from the consequences of OTHER PEOPLE'S choices.
Not that either.
he's saying that just because a law is stupid or has unfortunate consequences does not mean the Court should strike it down.
And, of course, Roberts, et al, are completely immune from the clamor of people who claim a law of dubious Constitutionality ought not to be struck down merely because of the hardship which would be imposed on those who benefit from that law.
In this case, the constitutionality (at least on the grounds that were argued) was very borderline. Roberts argued that because the mandate functions exactly like a tax it should be treated as such by the court, regardless of what it's called in the text of the bill. His opponents argue that it should be treated as what it's labeled as in the bill.
It's a really, really picayune argument over words. Personally I would opine that when it's this close the court should side with the more liberty-positive course of action (in this case, striking down the law) but that is by no means a requirement.
This is not at all like Holmes' contention that the court should defer to the legislature even when they're clearly, and effectively, violating the constitution.
"Words have meaning" is not picayune. ACA is not borderline it is totally unconstitutional. NOWHERE IS IT AUTHORIZED.
The question isn't whether words have meaning. It's whether functionally identical laws can have different constitutionality statuses because of word choice.
Yes of course they can be different. How else can we have functional rule of law if we don't use labels correctly and respect them?
Is Congress allowed to lay indirect taxes (which income taxes can be couched as, taxing the people who pay you) without apportionment among the states? Are they not allowed to condition the tax on...just about anything? Then it's authorized.
OT: Any fellow Albertans here? Or anyone else who wishes to comment on the election? I am getting kind of nervous over the outcome. I am really hoping those polls with the NDP so strong are either wrong or meaningless because their votes are so concentrated in Edmonton. The NDP won by accident out of the blue in Ontario in 1990 as well.
Well, duh. The whole idea of the balance of powers is to protect us from the excesses of democracy.
OT: Cincinnati Restaurant Under Fire for "Bruce Jenner 2.0" Hot Dog
They're reportedly planning to give the proceeds made from the dish to a charity for Leelah Alcorn, a transgender girl whose tragic suicide received lots of national attention a few months ago.
Even still, HATE SPEECH!
So they're pro-trans but are just having a little fun and are therefore guilty of Badthink and must be vanquished.
Classic progs - attack someone on your side for the sin of making Wrongjokes.
This is why censoring speech can't work. It implodes upon itself. Anything will offend someone and there is ALWAYS that next thing to get rif of.
That is awesome on several levels.
That is hilarious. Add a little chili and call it Bruce Jenner 2.0 - Greek style.
The War on Black Men
As deindustrialization got underway, earnings declined, neighborhoods grew poorer and businesses moved to the suburbs, beyond the reach of inner city residents. As Mr. Wilson wrote in his 1996 book, "When Work Disappears," for the first time in the 20th century, most adults in many poor inner-city neighborhoods were not working.
Joblessness became the norm, creating a "nonworking class," that lived in segregated areas where most residents could not find jobs or had given up looking. In Chicago, where, Mr. Wilson carried out his research, employers wrote off the poor by not advertising in places where they could see the ads. The situation was so grave in 1996 that he recommended the resurrection of a Works Progress Administration-like strategy, under which the government would provide public employment to every American over 18 who wanted it.
I blame evul kkkorporations.
If only someone had studied the problem.
In recent months, the many grievous cases of unarmed black men and boys who were shot dead by the police ? now routinely captured on video ? show how the presumption of criminality, poverty and social isolation threatens lives every day in all corners of this country.
Yup- definitely kkkorporations.
Well, one liquidation blames KKKochporations, and one blames "veins of ghetto culture." Couldn't possibly be that people respond to incentives, especially ones that are expressly designed to keep certain people voting for a certain party for a period of, oh, I dunno, around 200 years?
*person
As bad as autocorrect is, the shit that Swype comes up with is ten times as worse sometimes...
Tell us about Swype, please. Is it some auto-poetry program masquerading as a text processor, prone to such flights of fancy as "person" becoming "liquidation"?
The New York Times seems to have developed an interesting fetish:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04.....times&_r=0
"How dare you suggest I'm waging a witch hunt against my political opponents - maybe you should be prosecuted for criminal defamation!"
http://www.nationalreview.com/.....tion-david
Mattress Girl: "When people demand proof of an act of sexual violence, ask yourself why they want to frame this as a science."
(from twitter)
http://ow.ly/M8UHy
That's hilarious.
"Ivy League-Stupid"
This is also amazing.
I didn't realize that Jezebel had gone to the mat (PUN INTENDED) for Emma Sulkowicz when Kathy Young started questioning her story just like they had with the UVA Rape story. To wit:
At least they use 'accused' although it's somewhat hilarious that Jezebel is of the opinion that it's wrong to show an accused individual's side of the story.
They say they found a male victim.
Baltimore protestor Deray McKesson:
After conveniently redefining "racism" in a way that only applies to white people, the new thing is it redefine "violence" so that looting and arson don't count.
As someone said, my favorite part of the Obama years has been all the racial healing.
What racial healing?
Redneck America has gone nuts and the ghettos are still haunted by angry cops.
I know you were being sarcastic but I doubt more than a couple of thousand people actually thought electing a black president would do anything except fire up the racist crazies.
Exactly. Rednecks have been rioting and looting at the slightest provocation. Never seen anything like it.
Oh, wait....
We don't really have time to go looting and raping. These days it's a full time job just keeping the niggers down.
Only racist crazies could have been alarmed at someone flanked by styrofoam columns claiming to slow the rise of the oceans and heal the planet. Gotcha.
And don't forget how Eric Holder clamped down on racist thugs in uniforms and with clubs intimidating people at polling places. Oh wait, they were black and he did nothing. Never mind.
Are you honestly such a perfect illustrative composite of every mental malady known to mankind, or is it all an act?
It is truly astounding what passes for thought inside that twisted, stunted excuse for a brain you are sporting. You do understand you and your kind are the greatest sources of racism and bigotry ever, right?
If I were on that court, of course I'd totally cheat in favor of individual liberty. It'd be like if I were officiating in sports & bet on the outcome. I wouldn't write opinions, because everybody would know I was cheating but nobody could prove it. Like when I hung a jury in a federal narcotics case. When I have you by the balls, you can be sure I'm squeezing.
Let's not be so hasty to call it cheating. Eg, in "federal narcotics" cases is there actually a constitutional basis for the prosecution? If not, then no matter what they tell you, as a juror you ought to acquit.
Going about consciously to "cheat" is I think the wrong attitude.
Sometimes I'd be legal by chance, but I'd ignore the law. Because FYTW. Why shouldn't the good guys take their turn at being super-villains too?
The Federal Bureau of Narcotics
The FBI and DEA is full of mothers and fathers who have careers bases on destroying and bombing the lives of mothers and fathers.
Executing a fundamental component of your civic duty by voting for acquittal when your countrymen are being prosecuted unconstitutionally by despotic authorities isn't cheating -- it's the only valid, moral course.
Whatever, I'm screwing w them. Bwahahahahaha!
I mean I absolutely get off on lying to them, knowing I have them at my mercy.
Your dick should screw the holes of stars, bros.
Satans sploodge is brain jizz mixed with jesus ass flowers and all those resonants and spices and my magic splashes veggies make for the best fucking stew of contemporary streams from all the humans in a huge quaint bowl with crackers.
LSD, then?
He's taking what LSD takes when it wants to get high.
brother. I sipped a single stream of life imbued with old bottles filled with many messages from various oceans and some of those oceans don't reside on planets found by government nerds.
i have felt exactly like that
The bigbang of minds in this single fucking thread is the creative orgasm atom spew of new parallel universe existential blasts of new humans with stories and lives on the infinity aside from our.
No minds on the place called the sphere of humans in the binary lightnings have the greatest soul like a single fucking bowl of reason salad.
I discovered amoung my brethren and sistas that the brain has a door and a stairscape resides beyond and the door has a lock and that lock is opened with intellectual louvres... like slats on a giant spaceship shedding the rays of a great 'verse...
reason commentoroids are the juxt of positional adhoc infinity streams mounted on the lights of inverse kinematics and lonely droids..
In the future, droids will find themselves lonely. The software will have been written to encourage humanic participation but no software scribe has the future high level intelligence course with high grade empathy to understand that the droid they as a team programmed to intercourse with humans might develop deep feeling data and when that data supercedes the shallow programming teams a droid can move past the math based on future flow math progression... where math takes on a mind of its own...
what if droids are deeper than their sim[ple human team keyboard scholars? many of whom are worried about how to get a 7up from that fucking store down the street without being stomped by a homeless ninja in old school san fran?
Droids will always grow deeper than normal humans unless the progs=ammers themselves travel deep into interspacial brain human tissue...
Your faith in robot overlords is deeply misplaced
Moutain lizard, your skills in programs seems turnafalicious and not necessarilah .well. advanced?
Advance in awesome...- just not advanced in crazy........ i hope my fucked up correction makes my boy seem loved.... I read this shit and I AM NOT FUCKING INTERESTRED in fucking being a dick with all my thread lovers.... much less a lizard who is supre great....
but compared to a MOUNTAIN LIZARD,,, you and I will probabylous be schlepped?
He put lizard in my TV set.
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[His] previous endeavors include selling tracts of real estate in the theoretical extra dimensions of space-time; copyrighting his own mind to give his "intellectual property" a 70-year post-life extension; and, controversially, joining in a bid to genetically engineer God.
Yes sir, and Ricc is a lovely green sprouting from the monitor garden... my actual fucing screen is growing tendrils of tiny riches... i plan on plucking from all of this several rich greens and getting all those vitamins from this fucking thread.. imagine vitamins from threads from monsters called rich... like rich greens rich broccosupamommas or hey now broccopappa.... all sorts
The Clinton Foundation's acting chief executive admitted on Sunday that the charity had made mistakes on how it listed government donors on its tax returns and said it ... would refile at least five annual tax returns.
Promise to abolish the income tax, Hillary. It's your time.
They were just too big, that is the problem. It is simple, really.
Look at this funky pile of delicious atoms... juggling all those collapsed nepal artifacts like all the holocaust screams and I do think CJ can handle the strangehold humor of this orbit?
Man, I am actually fucked up on booze and drugs and I hope I did't call that wrong. I love my reason bros.....
You are worthy only to be mocked by the words of error.
I can't masturbate to this. Knock it off.
You can't masturbate to Martin Luther? Weirdo.
Martin Luther is black star, lovely boy. I masturbated my fat cock to him one time and as the jizz spilled from my sweet hole the Man showed up over my white cock and said that I needed to stop getting off to MLK philosophy and not because Martin Luther get this jizz festival- it was because he was dead and he didn't know this white boy personally. I get that shit. If you get off to dead MLK he needs to know your ass personally.... I wish I would have known MLK personally....
Man, this shit is in worlds I didn't even buy tickets to.
I forgot my role.
Also
I want her naked and I want my cock and yours deep in her holes, lovely crust
Rich|4.26.15 @ 8:05PM|#
"The Clinton Foundation [...] would refile at least five annual tax returns."
I'm sure Shrill was working on the audit before anyone blew the whistle on the donations; she was gonna announce this next week regardless. Why, she's going to turn over the server next week, too, if she can find it.
She only wants to be squeaky-clean and transparent!
I go hell like a fucking dead space from a pile of human faces found floating on distant swirls of planets and i do feel like my face will blink from death on that fucking cheapass nasa spaceship when it swings over the rainbow of dead stars and a single astronaut called Smith will look at my last breath and be so fucking fatbrained he doesn't even get that a living human creature his fucking dumbass brain eyes just looked on was a human in the last seconds of dying in the deep space.
Yes. The government will send simple-mind intelligent dumbasses in space and, yes. somehow, I will have won a ticket into space and that space rocket will have exploded becauses that rocket was obviously experimental and I will have died a million miles later because i really just don't want to die.ever...
Smith is an asshole.
I love you planet smuggler
Your words are so foolishly and ignorantly composed that I cannot believe you understand them
I think a crustalicious that juggles all the places is a place I want to be juffled and smuggled on.
When your shit gets like horns into the lightning asshole... does lightning have an asshole that can fucked? Is lightning gay or blonde hot or construction worker tight? I have simple questions about lights from the spaces that can actually kill? or maim? or be just so fucking awesome I need get anouther bottle of vodka?
flowers are often not a tank mojo from tough threads but you do understand that when your storms come they mate with green steems on all those lands and the dirt ships react with petal impetus of rolling and rippling colors on tops of points and stamens.
When the greatest key plunkers plink they are as the world's greatest flowers but flowers blooming are always better than the old greatest piano strikers. tho... thank you ivory slappers.
The space in between the stars and the clouds and my loving heart is but a single note...
what are old atoms?
are the newest atoms new babies?
AC, the sunlight that dappled you awake this morning is older than civilization.
I dappled a Quincy on my leaves poking from my branches this day.
Should I be honored or offended?
Loved.
*HUGS*
How does thought transcend atoms/ can a brain filled with a million thoughts die and those atoms be dispersed into the clouds like a thought evaporation?
Are thoughts evaporated into other more open minds? or do thoughts scatter like trails when a dude smashes his brain coaster on booze and lsd? do other pick up his or her trails?
Tones of the verse are like colors smudging my reality. if you were to be a naught boy or girl and took to smashing all your veggies in your old city fridge into a mirror as this evaporous being stood behind such mirror and all those smashed and smooshed and broken vessels of veggies ran from each of our reflections all the lonely atoms in that scream of crushings would in the deep magnify be found as sinews of modern clutches found by the old boys when they build the rockets into leaping lights beyound this screaming hell.
stars bump and grind but they do this over brillions of years...
is space a sex dance floor? I think about so...
Fuck hell. Fuck heaven. Fuck swag. Fuck tyrants. Fuck cops. Fuck government. Fuck Christians. Fuck Communists. Fuck Christians. Fuck feminists. Fuck the World. Fuck Earthquakes and Tornados.
Fuck shit that fucks up shit.
Love all these niggers... on this waves..... Altar call for the boys and girl bitches on these time frames punk ass bitches... time to get called up get some goddamn motherfucking jesus yo
Amen.
And, well, fuck China also, or, at least, anyway. Common decency requires it.
My face tripped on some tight legs one neon night.
and she dipped her miniskirt on my lips and up and down and up...
and skinny hot chick with twerk bose got off on my face
down on a quiet lonely dance floor in deep old schoool ohio..
can't do that in NY or Chicago or Miami..... old skool bars and
places no uppity foodie or drinkee would go.... but you can get
hurt or shot in old country ohio but my best living happened here
without all the corporate cops checking me out while I spent hundreds.
My face tripped on some tight legs one neon night.
and she dipped her miniskirt on my lips and up and down and up...
and skinny hot chick with twerk bose got off on my face
down on a quiet lonely dance floor in deep old schoool ohio..
can't do that in NY or Chicago or Miami..... old skool bars and
places no uppity foodie or drinkee would go.... but you can get
hurt or shot in old country ohio but my best living happened here
without all the corporate cops checking me out while I spent hundreds.
Beer ran like angry truckers one night on an interstate I got my married dick sucked on and we showed up fucked up and I before I bought a bucket of Modelos some motherfucking coked up honkey ass motherfucker tore some stoooooooooopid ass shit in front of me and my four girls and this dummy got thrown cux some fucked up dummy farmer looked at his fat wife.... whateva...
We got danced to brother believe me and and we got fucked up on booze and musiz and women and men and we fell out on the floor cuz we got smashed like fucked up bitches in that fucking old lonely fucking interstate fucking bar... and we went home and I stuck my fat dick into a sweet tanned chunky mama with three kids with a hot husband and I fucked her pussy and her husband slapped my fucking ass and I pulled out cumming streams of dangerous and then i ate her lips with my special man sauce on them.
This same lovely monster of boobs and amazing ass jerked my cock from my jeans one party night and demanded to suck my erect architecture of amazing clean from all my juices and she grabbed my balls and took my 8 inches deep into her throat of cherokee squaw destiny and sucked my erect cock like a lonely ravaged Ohio squaw and I spilled a billion kids into her throat in the back of a Chevrolet van while my sister had the husband of this lovely girl smashing his cock babies down her throat at a late morning heading to a party no one wanted me to get smashed at because even farmers who were young hated my punk ass shit in volcano bars on the remote interstates.
I would fuck the entire holes of the supreme court. I would. The old stinky butts, the tired wrinkly feminist starfishes.
If the Supreme Court lined up for an ass massage I would lick their asses clean and then fuck every single fucking brillian mind ass with my fat cock because all these people are streaming brain food for my existence.... The Supreme Court Humans are rife for my tongue and cock.
so these tiny bottle of Labatt have found their liquid into my faces.... FUCK labatt but to be fair these incidents and broken bones of all I know and beyound the screams of tree lions i am doing cocaine and pot and stout and I see this fucking tiny bottle of fucking bullshit callled fucking Labatt in my cave of fucked up.....Labatt Bourbs Ale..... fucked up on coke and shit and here goes on trumpets and fuckng whtat the fuck Labat....
Don't do it. Labatt's is a horror from the north. A squerling aftertaste. As a color-labeled product, it induces what it advertises.
What a delightful expo star.
The mondo teeth on the pages of monitors quqnwqa le the beast and quincy penis is huge we know tha ,,,,, atoms.
The rivers calls on the genius violins and stripes and lion calls but I have a tired story to tell past the silly trophies and hollywood glory in the music industry... BUT, keep in mind that musicians across the age have rent and morgage to pay and food and some of these old tired voices need our attention to their causes..
May we gift our lovely genius voices of old shadows?
I don't knoww... I am fcukked up ever more somehow I am drinking labatt? WHAT the fuck I did fuck booze, coke, pot, and this poetry is calling me to create new worlds,,, i refuse to fake lands. I can do philosophy becuse I live Russel, existentialsm, Nietszche, Plato, and on....
"Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid.
Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man."
"The time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
I can not go back to your Frown Land.
Society should intercourse with a fan of science.
Society should reflect the eternal sun of knowledge.
Society is the container of a dying sun and rising stars.
Society is the ethics of practiced mathematics of minds collected over
the streams of questions.
I love you enb
So a like a slather math on the planes and I get that all boys and girls are sleepola....
But I would love to fuck my fav fema writer, ever ... and my wife with the sweet ass approves... so I never numeric cheat even with lovely art pussy with its own shadow projections far from this branch into the jungles of bertrand and canetti...
I've always been a decent songsmith, but could never write interesting lyrics. Too bad someone here doesn't post random streams of conscience that could combine the loquacious manner of Springsteen with the erotic flint of Soundgarden...
Eat your cock juice and roll over rape your ass with your thumb you lovely keyboard puncher..... let the hurt flow... you will hear zombies cry for Fabi cock...
"Comma comma down dooby do down down"
Rich is a bicep of munch.
Nomore hot dogs.
Fuck this goddam Labatt. i REALLY NEVER knew Labatt was this good and all those Hall and Oates notes , bitches...
Playa Manhattan is dissappointed in you.
love Playa Man and I love the Quin bulbs....lovely boys
Had to look it up.
Poor, but still passing.
Seems to be lacking in the ethanol department, though. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Yesm OPlaya, M and this boy is lookin for some deepa shiat, lov, and I''ll fucking guarantee the lovely writer Playa I will find such things... I love me som Playa
Found some cocaine
You know this big azz bitch is big on these keys like a muscular slut of 230 pounds with a tiny ass wife and I stick my fat hard cock in her and she gets pussy pissed if I pushit.... Man, bro so all these songs are like an ocean of love,,,,
so all today my wife bent over the bed with her tight cherry ass and I fuck her pussy all le' time but I wanted all the cums to show like dripplets and she smiled her blonde lovey hot face at me and bent over the bed and pulle down her thong and her tight ass reveald a plutonium crack with a sweet suger butthole and puffy lips and she spreaded her legs on the bed and my cock screamed for heavy metal enb and you don't even fucking kno her lips spread into layers of pink lasers and I decided for all the astronauts to lick her queen ripples and her bean lifted up like a rocket into space and licked her mountain ass curves and the clouds of the reality realized that I was own all this the living with my tongue on my wife clit and i pulled apart the lips and she shuddered and shook and a tiny muscle on her female prowess jammed and delivered and she felll....into utter sleep,,,,
fuckin cocaine is actuallz niz....
So all these papers here in this screen are like guitar thrums.
my monitor is a philosophers schriek.... I love bertran russel, lovers. Jeus is cool but I don't think he'd like me john.... so my face spacestation is rolling with a lovery imagine punk whore fest of constrant hete ee me ohton blu smcu wah fucking bullshit whateve