3 Reasons the U.S. MILITARY Should NOT Fight Ebola
President Obama is sending thousands of U.S. troops to West Africa to fight the deadly Ebola virus. Their mission will be to construct treatment centers and provide medical training to health-care workers in the local communities.
But is it really a good idea to send soldiers to provide this sort of aid?
Here are 3 reasons why militarizing humanitarian aid is a very bad idea:
1. Militarized Aid Erodes Humanitarian Principles
Humanitarian aid must be perceived as neutral and not driven by political or military objectives. Using the military in a humanitarian crisis works against that and potentially instigates further unrest.
Attacks against humanitarian personnel have been rising in the past decade precisely because of a perceived blurring of humanitarian, political, and military goals.
And our track record in Africa warrants such skepticism. In the past six years, the U.S. military has expanded its troop presense in Africa via humanitarian missions specifically designed to establish points of entry for future military missions.
Local communities face a hell of a bind: if they don't accept help from the military, they run the risk of missing out on much needed humanitarian aid. That erodes the trust needed to establish a working relationship between aid workers and local communities.
2. Militarized Aid is Ineffective in the Long Term
Militarized aid is often backed by huge budgets that are supposed to be spent quickly.
Indeed, the Department of Defense has already allocated $1 billion to fight Ebola.
The pressure to spend massive amounts is often coupled with pressure to achieve short-term political goals.
That in turn translates into an ineffective use of funds. Accountability and follow-up are in short supply, too, meaning the same mistakes get repeated over and over.
3. Militarized Aid Diminishes the Supply of Civil Aid
Many politicians who support militarized aid claim that the military is the only institution capable of handling the humanitarian crisis at hand.
If this is true—and too often it is—this highlights the neglect of civilian-led programs that are more likely to get the job done.
By constantly relying on the military for humanitarian efforts, we're stifling efforts to grow civilian-led organizations that can handle the complicated logistics necessary to address large-scale humanitarian crises.
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4. Humanitarian aid is not the role of the military.
You hate the children, don't you?
But the military is very good at humanitarian aid.
1) They are very good at moving a lot of crap from one location to another.
2) They have a supply of transportable medical facilities (including medical personnel) that are very good at trauma and probably decent at diseases.
3) They have a large quantity of portable water and sanitation equipment.
4) They are very good at building short term infrastructure (buildings, tents, roads, etc.)
5) and finally, they have a ready supply of (mostly) hard working and physically fit people who can do a wide variety of tasks.
They are the best delivery system for large operations. The argument should be more along the lines of should we be giving aid.
But the military is very good at humanitarian aid.
Mission creep, thy name is the DoD.
Small pox, a virus, was endemic in European societies long before the 17th C. and so the Europeans who came to the Americas had a good deal of natural resistance to the virus.
But the Amerinds did not. By most estimates, small pox killed about 90% of the East and Gulf Coast Amerinds before 1620. That is why New England appeared almost unsettled when the English debarked from the Mayflower and Arabella.
Ebola has been endemic in West Africa in the 20th C. If ebola follows the small pox model, god help us because Obama just sacrificed a reinforced brigade of 3000 on the alter of internationalist humanitarianism.
Certainly, the recent experience in Dallas suggests that the US is institutionally incapable of handling any large number of ebola cases in a population that may be particularly susceptible to catching the disease.
That is the nightmare scenario; two or three more cases out of Dallas will tell.
I agree. The Top Men have been blathering a lot of false reassurances about this.
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5. My nanometer scale marksmanship qualification is out of date.
1. It's not what the military is trained for, despite those stupid, insipid Navy ads.
There are no other reasons.
If I recall my stupid Navy ads correctly, they're trained for swordfighting dragons on a giant chessboard or something.
That's the USMC
I remember H.W. Bush sending troops to Somalia ,Clinton to Haiti ,and that worked out so well.Bush also like to use the military in the war on drugs like n Panama
That's nice.
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Idiot
Armies are for killing people and blowing shit up. Period. Full stop.
At this point, at least, that is not how Ebola should be countered.
You might as well tell my medical executive committee they will be planning our next offensive in Fallujah. Hey, if controlling infectious disease and fighting a shooting war are the same skillset, why not?
Reposting from a dead thread:
Horrifying story about the CDC and, among other things, how Obama cronies took a half-billion dollar contract away from the one company that has a plausible cure in the pipeline.
http://thefederalist.com/2014/.....re-is-she/
There are a few interesting things about the scandal Lurie was embroiled in years ago. You can?and should?read all about it in the Los Angeles Times' excellent front-page expose from November 2011, headlined: "Cost, need questioned in $433-million smallpox drug deal: [Siga,] A company controlled by a longtime political donor gets a no-bid contract to supply an experimental remedy for a threat that may not exist."
Last month, Siga filed for bankruptcy after it was found liable for breaching a licensing contract. The drug it's been trying to develop, which was projected to have limited utility, has not really panned out?yet the feds have continued to give valuable funds to the company even though the law would permit them to recoup some of their costs or to simply stop any further funding.
She is the Czar(ina) we've been looking for!
Read up on the anthrax vaccine for a similar story on corruption. Except in that case, the enlisted men were the guinea pigs.
Gee, if a Republican had done this, the MSM might have done some investigating.
And if a Republican president hadn't done this, the media would somehow make it so.
I'm pretty sure Obama hates our troops. I can't see any other reason for sending them to fight Ebola
I'm not so sure about this article. The data doesn't quite seem there to make the case the article wants to.
1) Is the rise in violence because of the ties to the military? Or is because of where the aid agencies are?
2) What makes you think the international aid agencies are accountable either? I remember the tsunami in Indonesia. The international aid agencies were very quick to ask for (and get) donations. They weren't so quick to give aid. The US military acted much more quickly and was fairly effective.
3) I don't see any sign the private sector is building the complicated logistics necessary to handle these sort of humanitarian crisis. And I don't see any evidence the private sector is doing any better at handling these sort of crisis either. The humanitarian agencies are in Africa right now and I can't say they are doing a bang up job either.
I just don't believe the post supports it's claims.
I agree.
Further, the military has training in dealing with biological threats.
Most importantly, this isn't just humanitarian aid for a situation we're not involved with - Ebola is already here as well. The "if we don't fight them over there, we'll fight them over here" thing actually applies in this situation.
The "if we don't fight them over there, we'll fight them over here" thing actually applies in this situation.
No, it just reinforces the dependence of Africans on the West to save them from the consequences of their own actions.
Winner.
People who want to help stop Ebola in Africa should write private checks to NGOs like Doctors Without Borders, WorldVision, or MercyCorps, or go over there and build their own hospitals.
The U.S. Military should be defending the homeland, period. Including preventing flights containing passengers who originated in Sierra Leone or Liberia from even landing here.
No it doesn't. The last time I checked, few Liberians cans swim or fly that far.
Further, the military has training in dealing with biological threats.
Being trained to put on a MOPP suit if you are attacked with a chemical weapon does not = qualified to handle ebola victims.
Yep. Trained to survive a brief exposure, kill everyone in the area, leave and decontaminate.
I agree that the article failed to make its case.
But the military does not exist to solve the world's "humanitarian" crises. We are forced at gunpoint to pay taxes to fund the military for national defense. Any action above that function is an abuse of those whose livelihoods were diminished to make it possible.
Now, as a practical matter, the military is more effective at this task than other organization because in our present legal climate, the military is the only organization that can effectively muster and defend a large logistics chain anywhere in the world. Also, most civilian "aid" agencies help people only incidentally; their primary mission is to sustain their own payroll.
Once upon a time, Americans of all walks of life travelled abroad to help people (whether with medicine or ammunition), and no one was forced to depend on the US military to save them. When you make laws criminalizing private activity, it is unsurprising that your favored solution is the only one left standing.
"Once upon a time, Americans of all walks of life travelled abroad to help people (whether with medicine or ammunition), and no one was forced to depend on the US military to save them"
Huh???
Are you talking like private armies, the mafia, banana republics we created, crusades (missionaries) or what?
And they have massive logistics? Big planes, billions of dollars, etc? I must have missed that in my reading of history.
Please point out where we are obligated to use "massive logistics...big planes...billions of dollars" to save Africans. Cite anything in international law or the Constitution where the U.S. taxpayer is obligated to stop Ebola and save Africans.
The only purpose for the US military in the control of Ebola is to make sure the people who try to bring it into the US are shot before they step one inch onto US soil.
Imagine if any soldier gets it and dies. I hope Obama is there at the ceremony when they hand the flag to the mother or wife and bray on about how he made the world a better place for us all.
"Imagine if any soldier gets it and dies. I hope Obama is there at the ceremony when they hand the flag to the mother or wife and bray on about how he made the world a better place for us all."
Well, I'd say in the abstract that such a soldier did a heck of a lot more for the USA and Humanity than - for example - thousands who died deposing Saddam for having his bad bad bad WMDs. That one didn't work out too well.
You underestimate moms and parents. If their kid was over serving in the Peace Corp or a NGO and got killed by violence of disease, they know why. Same goes with the military.
Using your same logic, it's tough to explain to a mom why a dead soldier who ran off the road drunk at night while at our German base....and died...helped our country.
Such is life. We have a volunteer military. Don't sign up if you don't (possible) death as part of the job description.
Please, they signed up to defend the country not be a cheap version of the Peace Corps.
If the government wants to send them on non-military missions, they have to volunteer or let Obama lead them into Ebola country like warrior kings of the past did.
The military is not a *cheap* anything.
Those WMD's that Iraq didn't have are starting to show up. Stories are surfacing, there were WMD's all along. And guess who is acquiring them.
I wonder what soldiers Mom's and Dad's would think about "such is life", our sons and daughters who volunteered for military service, to "Die' for our countr.... no for three countries in Africa.
No don't stop flights from these countries to our shores. Just quarantine them for three weeks before they are aloud to enter. Keeps out guys like Duncan who lied his way in, so to infect our unprepared hospital staffs.
Also, soldiers can bring Ebola right home to their wives and children.
Agree about the shooting. Planes containing people from countries with any epidemic of a disease as communicable as Ebola shouldn't even be allowed to land. That's defense of the homeland, AFAIC. That's what the military's for.
This video is a slightly longer version of the famous Ron Paul "Let 'em DIE"......
No one said "Let em' Die" as usual, taken out of context. I bet your one of those people who think the government should solve every problem in the world, if we'd let them there is private charities and organizations that would help these people. Not "Let em' Die". Nice try boot licker, just because we don't believe government isn't the best solution for this situation doesn't mean we want to "Let em' Die" it means the government is inefficient and the military has a track record of being a conqueror disguised as a helper.
#1. Most of this is based on opinion pieces, not empirical evidence. Try again, this time with data.
#2. Conflating total military budget inefficiency with spending on a specific operation is not just bad math, it is terribly misleading. Chances are, a specific operation leverages funding already allocated, and does so in a more efficient way. Try again, this time with specific, evidence, not generalizations.
#3. Is correct, but would we really every have a "standing army", or even large recallable ready reserve of civilian aid workers? Where would these come from? A larger USPHS? A reserve USPHS? And even the USPHS is not truly "civilian". Also, what about the logistics and civil engineering functions the military brings to the operation? How would we create civilian equivalents to them, AT THE SCALE the military can provide (key point). In other words, #3 is a fantasy.
I agree that most humanitarian missions are doomed to failure when performed by the military. I was in Somalia in 93, and saw that first hand. Another perspective is that there are a large number of US troops that are superbly trained to deal with chemical and biological threats. Even most virologists only have experience in the procedures that take place in a level 4 facility. Our troops are experienced at setting up and maintaining decontamination facilities in the field, and working in bio-hazard gear under adverse conditions. Of course, those troops do not travel lightly or inexpensively. And if the local population decides to fight against any aid, it would certainly get ugly.
At least one report says that the troops won't be getting full biohazard gear.
I would say we have a lot of training in handling *chemical and radiological* threats.
Not so much biological ones.
There are special NBC units who probably know more.
The average soldier just puts on the gas mask and suit when told and gives his buddy a hit of atropine if he starts the nerve-gas-jig.
I feel terrible about the problems of Africa, and I know all the progressives out there feel like us not collecting the fruit of my labor with the coercive power of government and not using it to try to solve Africa's problems is racist and everything...
It's just that my purpose in life isn't to be a living progressive sacrifice for the benefit of other people. I know some people think that's selfish of me--I think selfish is treating other people, like me, as if our wealth and our hard work are the solution to everyone else's problems--whether we want to be the solution to their problems or not.
Whether we think they'll be successful in solving Africa's many problems is a secondary question. The primary question should be whether we consent to this thing in the first place. Who do we get to vote against if we don't want to finance this Africa plan out of our future paychecks? Was there even a vote taken on whether to send U.S. troops to West Africa?
Could our consent in these matters be any less important to our politicians? Jesus Christ, what are they going to volunteer my future paychecks for next?
You'll do what the collective tells you to do, you hater.
My Ebola thoughts and predictions.
- I'm convinced this is going to get very bad. Not zombie apocalypse bad, but more than a few dead Americans and a hit of many billions of dollars.
- I always wonder about "funeral practices spreading Ebola." The Koran dictates that dead bodies be washed: is Islam one of the reasons this is spreading?
- It's ironic: after years of "the Republican War on Women," the first American victims are two single, 20-something, ethnic minority women. Oops! Talk about likely Obama voters. That's the demographic that looks to the federal government as husband and father, and they are likely upset about not being protected. I don't expect them to rush to the voting booths to pull the D lever.
No.
1 - Ebola has been around for a long time and is just as virulent in non-muslim countries as in muslim dominated ones.
2 - Lots of cultures wash the dead before burial. You tend to sweat alot and piss/shit yourself at the end. This is just a final act of respect/love before final disposal.
Ebola is spreading because these people don't have the option of sending the afflicted to the hospital nor can they quarantine a wing of their house and afford to purchase biohazard gear. Couple that with a low education level, a carefully inculcated (*this* may be due to Islam) distrust of Western medical personnel then throw in a dangerously virulent disease and that's how you get Ebola spreading.
While we don't have a lot of these factors, *our* danger lies in a reflexive submission to government edict and concurrent diminishment of personal responsibility.
If our government says its OK to fly with a fever after exposure then people assume that the government knows what its doing (no matter how often we see that its not true).
Ah, thanks. But I don't think Ebola is spreading just "because these people don't have the option of sending the afflicted to the hospital." A lot of hospital workers and scientists are catching it, as well.
- On the one hand, the administration says we shouldn't send Liberians back to Liberia, because it would be unsafe for them. So they get visa waivers and extensions to stay. But if a Liberian wants to come to the US, no problem, because stopping them would somehow "make things worse." In other words, traveling into an Ebola zone puts you at risk, but someone leaving an Ebola zone doesn't put anyone else at risk. It's similar to "You can't get infected with Ebola on a bus, but if you have Ebola don't ride a bus because you can infect someone else."
- I suspect one reason the administration doesn't want a travel ban is because it contradicts the narrative that all immigration is wonderful. To try to keep out diseased foreigners "reinforces a negative stereotype," and we can't have that! Better to risk Americans dying.
- At some point, it will be revealed that yes, the EV-D68 outbreak came from all those illegal alien children they recently spread all over the country.
Why is George Clooney putting that guy in a Hazmat suit?
We should ban flights to Ebola stricken places, even though other nations and private airline have already instituted some forms or travel bans, WHILE allowing medical help to reach Africa.
We shouldn't send the military, on the off chance that it could lead to another adventure.
So the only thing to do is...... wait for a private company or a charity organization to step in? Even though a new vaccine doesn't exist and experimental drugs are a mixed bag (no chance to turn a profit)?
If I were a doctor traveling to Africa on a mission of mercy, I wouldn't mind the American military (not Mexican or other corrupt soldiers of dread) to either accompany me or coordinate with me while doing their own thing over there.
Ban flights? Obala is expediting them.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breit.....-in-August
Better yet, instead of limiting the role of the military, just vote Democrat, because Team Blue is inherently incapable if abusing its power.
Maybe they'll go to EbolaLand and fix it for us.
Semi-on-topic: U.S. Humanitarian Aid Going to ISIS
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1. Militarized Aid Erodes Humanitarian Principles
So it's better that some well-meaners bring aid, only to have it stolen by the local thug, warlord or kleptocrat?
Good intentions, like hokey religions, are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
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