"Do You Have It Up Your Ass?" Drug Warriors in New Mexico Go Too Far
This man was x-rayed and digitally probed without his consent. No contraband was found.
In October of 2012, Timothy Young was pulled over for failing to use his turn signal in Lordsburg, New Mexico. When Hidalgo County deputies saw that Young's companion had an open container, they asked to search the truck. Young consented.
The search dragged on for more than two hours. Deputies eventually called in a K9 unit and claimed that the dog, Leo, alerted on the driver's seat. While deputies sought a warrant for a more extensive search, deputy Patrick Green continued to interrogate Young, at one point asking him, "Do you have it up your ass?"
After the deputies obtained a search warrant, they handcuffed Young and drove him an hour away to the Gila Regional Medical Center in Silver City, New Mexico. Young was x-rayed and digitally probed without his consent. No contraband was found. A few weeks later, the hospital sent Young a bill for services rendered.
Young sued all parties involved. So far he has received a judgment of $925,000 from Hidalgo County.
Approximately 4:30 minutes. Produced by Paul Feine and Alex Manning.
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"So far he has received a judgment of $925,000 from Hidalgo County Tax Payers."
Fixed it for you.
Sounds like the tax payers are the ones who got it up the ass, as usual.
Tax payers deserved to get fucked in the ass for letting their law enforcement go off the reservation. They can voice their displeasure in November when they vote the Sheriff out of office.
This. I'm sick of all this whining about "poor taxpayers". Don't like paying out huge cash settlements to deserving victims? Go down to city hall a little more frequently and tell them to stop hiring these psychopaths.
Well Said...
You think they listen to the people? So funny. Unless you are a collective of voters, they won't listen. Only collectives like the Unions, Associations, or in some cases political groups like the Tea Party, can influence their politicians.
A single person whining is just written off as a douchebag (which they generally are).
Yes, in small towns and cities, votes and voters matter a great deal to politicians.
Your point?
The county's agents acted improperly. The people who pay into the county's coffers ultimately pay for it.
It's like when a Walmart truck crashes into a car, seriously injuring the occupants. Walmart's customers ultimately end up paying a slightly higher price for the accident.
If officers were personally liable for their actions, nobody would be an officer because every mistake -- honest or not -- could lead to ruin.
That said, these officers ought to be fired immediately.
I mentioned in a thread the other day about the idea of liability insurance for police. They would be required to have insurance to be on the job. In situations like this, the insurance would pay the settlement, not that taxpayer. That would cause the officer's premium to go up. If he decides he can't afford the premium, he has to resign the force. If no company will issue him a policy, he's fired.
That's a great idea
Probably not. They might well then be inundated with lawsuits more so than now.
.."received a judgment of $925,000".... means a whole lot more ass rapings and confiscation to make up those lost Benjamins.
Take it out of the cops' pension fund. Maybe they'll start trying to work within the Constitution a bit more.
STOP -- IN THE NAME OF THE LAW.
Some questions are just always appropriate.
I think I'll start using that one in place of "How are you doing?"
But, what tone of voice to use?
English teacher in 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off'.
"you tryin' to be a fay-git with me now?"
That's the most applicable question in this video, and in life.
Maybe Yoda-like:
"Up your ass, have it do you?"
Ha!
Use your indoor voice.
No reverb, no echo.
Lesson children: NEVER CONSENT TO SEARCHES, even if you know 100% that you are legal.
Dammit, you ninja'd me!
Don't talk to the police, ever. I watch this every few months - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
Actually, I've talked myself out of several tickets. Usually through the use of brutal honesty.
Cop: "Do you know why I stopped you?"
Me: "Well, I can't be certain, but I bet I was going way too fast down this hill."
He laughed.
Me: "Yeah, I just moved up here, and I it surprised me how fast this car would get moving down this hill with practically no gas on it. I caught myself going about 15 MPH over the limit, hit the brakes, and then caught myself doing it again, right when your lights came on."
He let me go with a warning.
Another occasion:
Cop: "Do you know why I'm pulling you over?"
Me: "Yeah, probably for failing to yield to that pedestrian in the crosswalk."
He laughed, too.
Me: "Yeah, I'm traveling on business, and was following this GPS thing on the left side of my dash, and it was telling me to turn right, so I did, and I'll be darned if I didn't notice the pedestrian step out until I just had to swing out and go around him."
He let me go, too.
Another occasion:
Cop: "Do you know why I pulled you over?"
Me: "Yeah, I'm driving in the emergency lane. I'm new in town, I got to the light and thought this was a right turn lane, but it's not."
He let me go.
Now, if the stakes were higher, I wouldn't do it. There's no way I'd let the police interview me for anything. Ever. Pleading the fifth is awesome.
But, with traffic stops, I'm not sure it would have gone as well if I sat there and said, "I plead the fifth!"
Traffic stops go MUCH easier if you're honest and not evasive. Just admit you're speeding or that you just ran the red and take your ticket or warning.
/does not apply if you are potentially under the influence. Delay/evade as much as possible...
Ok Brian just how big are your tits?
All together now: "And nothing else happened because fuck you that's why."
The Empire is law. The law is sacred.
Praise be DEA and all the prohibitions.
First mistake: never consent for the cops to search your car. If they really want to search you they will regardless of whether or not there is a warrant. But they can't force your consent.
I agree, though it's pretty obvious that it doesn't matter if you refuse consent. Not only will they take that as not respecting their authoritah, they'll just manufacture cause to get a warrant anyways.
Nah...they're not going to wake a judge up for warrant on a traffic stop, and the fact that they asked permission is a clear giveaway that they had no probable cause in the first place.
A couple years ago I was coming home from work around midnight and got stuck at a sobriety checkpoint. It was quickly obvious I was sober, but the several police walked all around my vehicle with their flashlights, doing a visual inspection. I was asked to pull over so that they could give me a citation for an expired inspections sticker.
I asked for a hearing with the magistrate, and asked for a Monday date as I worked out of town Tuesday to Friday. They said sure and gave me a date. Then the cop rescheduled to a mid week date. I asked to be rescheduled back to a Monday, which they did. Then the cop never showed up and I won a summary judgement.
But what I was going to argue is that a sobriety checkpoint is not an excuse for a fishing expedition for other violations. It was only ruled constitutional if carried out in a narrow, prescribed manner. I can even do a u-turn and leave the line without consequences (with all the cop lights flashing, traffic stopped, could see a tractor trailer, etc, I thought it was an accident). I did see another police car up the side street I could have taken for a detour, I wondered if they would have pulled me over if I tried to leave.
If you include the salaries of all the 'officials' involved, the law enforcement personnel, the capital assets like the facility used to conduct these searches... finger-banging John Q Truckerhat's butthole has cost the American taxpayer easily oh, a "Few Million" bucks.
And that's one *isolated example*.
Multiply by any available statistics on how often this sort of thing occurs? Its obvious that we waste billions of dollars per year endlessly doing the same dumb shit in various forms.
And progs think we don't do enough of this, apparently. We are 'crazy' for making an issue out of it.
Was anyone fired? No? That's what I thought.
That's the beauty of it! People who should be facing charges don't even lose their jobs. Consequences are like so judgmental and old-fashioned, man.
"Do you have it up your ass?"
No, but we're willing to learn.
+1 stripe
I'm telling ya, they need to go after the hospital's license, and the licenses of any physicians or nurses who were involved. Your standard issue settlement agreement doesn't cover that kind of thing, so unless they wrote it in special, the victim has a free hand to circle back and get a few more pounds of flesh.
The ole reach-around.
Yea what about the Hippocratic Oath and all that? How does one legally justify forced medical procedures as part of a search?
Besides the cops, the doctors, the nurses, and the hospital administrators, there are some others who are at fault here: the idiot judge who issued the warrant, the idiot politicians who launched the WOD, and the idiot voters who re-elect them.
I do believe there are certain instances where the state can force a medical procedure. I seriously doubt this was one, though...
"I have several things up my ass. What in particular are you looking for?"
I think you'd prefer not to goad them into a lengthy search...
Or not. Your choice.
"Not that there's anything wrong with that."
"Well, I've got a fudge dragon, and a chocolate hot dog, and..."
What I have up my ass, in our town, we call it a "politician".
'Zup my ass?!?! Could also quite fairly be called LEO or a LDO, a Law Debasement Orifficerer...
I used to feel sorry for this guy, but seeing that he seems to be a major Cowboys fan, I now believe he deserved what he got.
Go Eagles.
I would have demanded as part of the settlement that every single officer in the department be forced to undergo a digital rectal exam as a condition of keeping their jobs.
And you get to pick the doctor with the largest hands.
Who said anything about hands?
Digital means fingers.
Drug Warriors in New Mexico Go Too Far
Really? How did they go too far? What happened to them? Nothing. So as far as they are concerned, they didn't go far enough, and they'll go a little farther next time.
What the heck is the matter with you, Reason? Are you *trying* to render my intimate areas inoperable by repeated blows?
Once you build up the protective callouses it's not so bad. You lose some sensitivity for other things, though.
I believe it is, however, a Papally approved form of birth control, so, silver linings..
Especially since most Reason readers are assumed to have no rhythm.
But walking without rhythm won't attract the worm...
On the bright side he's now engaged to the guy who did the probe and he has that nice $900k dowry in the bargain...
Drugs, getting it up the ass, and (New) Mexicans: a reason article that hits every point!
Hopefully he was smuggling organs to sell on the black market.
:Drugs not in plain sight
:Options
1. Release suspect
2. Repeat question
3. Conduct search of vehicle
4. Conduct search in ass of suspect
5. Enjoy the great taste of Charleston Chew!
ewwww /teenage girl
Other than an ex-con who would put anything they wanted to hide up their ass? Do cops really run into this sort of thing so often that it's a reasonable question to ask? Or is it just something they like to do to people? I'm guessing the second thing. And even if they did find something on occasion how much could someone fit up there? Look at the trouble and expense they go to to find a couple joints worth of weed.
They do it for the same reason they like to kill dogs. Power.
Maybe its a PoliceOne thing. I think they might have lots of experience with assholes.
Maybe a lot of these cops are faggots. In addition to being control freaks.
Silas: "You talk like you take it up the ass."
Hugo: "I do not, my friend Adams, take it up the ass. But I suspect those that do consider that they advance their own interests. Like them, shall we not pursue that which gratifies us mutually?"
"Thank you for choosing the Gila Medical Center for your health care needs."
I have to wonder what it would take to shut down that hospital of horrors.
"I feel it was justified because the guy wasn't consenting enough! And what's the problem anyway, he had nothing to hide and he didn't die. Sheesh? Go police!"
Derp.
Glad he got the money--he should have gotten more.
The judge that signed that warrant, this is New Mexico? So he or she up for election at some point, right?
What has this judge done to ensure that such an obviously bad warrant will never be signed again?
Oh, and the dog that gave the false positive, is that dog still in service? Has that dog give false positives before? How many other people have they done this to--with the same dog?
What are they doing to ensure this never happens again?
Surely you jest?
Three questions max as per the Kwik-E-Mart President.
About that sniffer dog...
HELP-HELP-HELP, won't someone please give me some good advice?!!? I have a most EXCELLENT tax-money-saving idea that I'd like to put in to the Departments of Our Heroic Protectors in Government Almighty all across the land, and I just don't know WHERE to submit my brilliant money-saving idea; PLEASE help. Idea summary: REAL drug-sniffing dogs are expensive to train, feed, house, and transport. EFFIGY dogs (think sock-puppet-doggie on officer's hand) would be FAR less expensive! Officer waves sock-puppet-effigy-dog slowly over car, says wuff-wuff-wuff quietly and softly, then reaches trunk of car, goes WOOF-WOOF-WOOF loudly and urgently, now the car can be searched! Problem solved, cost-effectively! Woo-Hoo!!! ? Now? HOW do we spread this most excellent idea? Please advise? This excellent idea brought to you by the Church of Scienfoology, see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/ ?
Wha..?
Herc? Is that you?
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It a bit of a chicken and egg question but, how often is the dog reacting to what the handler wants as opposed to simply being wrong. I've always wondered about dogs having been useful over their history for hunting and tracking, are these things easier than random smell tests? Are they shitty at detecting drugs because their handlers always want them to smell drugs? Are they so fundamentally different as to be not comparable?
Say we took the same dog out with some blind dude that didn't give a shit about drugs, would the dog be more accurate because his handler is actually impartial?
Just random thoughts I've had for a while.
He should use some of that money to have the deputies in question.........dealt with.
It's the Sicilian/Calabrian way.
Zit', Zit'.
(Hush, hush).
There's a lot of desert in that quadrant of NM.
What is always bizarre about jackbooted types, is their approach to 'sassy compliance'
Their spectrum isn't just 'compliance / non-compliance'. It is diverse and results in completely different treatment.
There's "friendly compliance"
There's "respectful non-compliance"
There's "annoyed and sassy compliance"
and "Self-Righteous Non-Compliance"
and many more... but these all spring to mind as the main ones.
Of these, they seem to really ass-ream* the 'irritably compliant' people far harder than those who simply assert their rights and otherwise express no other concerns. The people who 'take umbrage' at the authorities doing their 'job' pisses them the fuck off. When people 'non-comply' but appear to respect and understand 'the system', they tend to be given a pat down and are waved on.
I've seen this ever since i was a kid. Questioning cops is far more dangerous than simply refusing to comply. Its how hipsters get pepper sprayed: "not cool man!"? well who's 'not cool' now? I think this is also why you have these 'deaths by passively resisting arrest' with cops / head-kicking incidents. The people are 'making the cops job harder'. Yes, they're not really committing a crime, but that *isn't the point anymore* when they've suddenly challenged the cop's authority to do what he's doing.
The analogy would be - its safer to be an actual criminal who knows when he's caught than it is to be selling loosies on MLK Blvd, and bitch when they bust you.
That was one expensive back-door adventure.
Did anyone else ask themselves, "How can a police dog tell if a set of tires is stolen?" One bark yes, Two barks no?
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RE: "Do You Have It Up Your Ass?" Drug Warriors in New Mexico Go Too Far
Comrades! There is no controversy here. The kind police officer was doing to Mr. Young what our beloved socialist totalitarian state has been doing to us for decades. The police officer was only trying to find some contraband that our betters wanted us to stop using for our personal enjoyment. Our enlightened leaders are looking out for our best interests. They are so much smarter than we are. They've been to college. Just look what they have done for our economy, our reputation in the world, and Detroit. We should be celebrating the police beatings, shootings and corruption. After all, we can not have a police state without brutal, vicious and paternal police officers kicking the living shit out us on a daily basis. What successful totalitarian police state didn't have cops that didn't oppress their populace? What would Nazi Germany be without the kind and forgiving Gestopo? What would East Germany be without the love from its Stasi? What would the Soviet Union be with out its understanding and merciful KGB? So let us all applaud all the violence from our police force and be secure in the knowledge that all of us living here in the Union of Soviet Socialist States of America are quickly headed down the path of an enlightened, free and brutal police state.
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I like the suspect's comments about the dog.
I wonder what would happen:
"May I search your car?"
"May I search yours? No? Then will you sign this agreement to pay me $120/hour for the inconvenience and accepting personal liability for any damage you do to my car? Well, y'know, if you're asking me to waive my Fourth Amendment rights, I ought to get something out of it. How about you do your search in the nude and I videotape it?"
"Do you have any firearms?"
"What do you need?"
-jcr