CrossFit Founder Greg Glassman: "I'm a rabid libertarian"
"I'm a rabid libertarian," says Greg Glassman, 56-year old founder of the worldwide fitness phenomenon called CrossFit.
Glassman opened the first CrossFit gym (or "box" in CrossFit lingo) in the mid-1990s in Santa Cruz, California. Today, there are more than 7,000 CrossFit affiliates around the world. These affiliates are not franchises, they're independently operated boxes owned by entrepreneurs who pay $1,000 to get certified as a CrossFit trainer and then pay $500-$3000 annually for the right to use the CrossFit brand. Each affiliate is free to innovate, which makes CrossFit a kind of open-source fitness community. Despite - or because of - its unconventional approach, CrossFit is projected to generate $100 million in revenue this year.
As independent in his exercising as he is in his politics, Glassman's relentless focus on results has created an army of athletes who have left conventional gyms for the allure of the "WOD" (CrossFit's "workout of the day").
Every day a new WOD is posted on the CrossFit website, and all around the world people compete against each other to complete a series of constantly varied, high intensity, functional movements (squats, sprints, pull-ups, dead lifts, and more). WODs aren't easy, and it's not uncommon for "CrossFitters" to vomit after a particularly difficult workout (they call it "meeting Pukie," Crossfit's puking clown mascot).
CrossFitting is not just about difficult competitive workouts, though. It's also about being a member of a supportive community. A Green Beret told Glassman that doing CrossFit helped him realize that the secret to developing the camaraderie necessary for special-forces units is to combine agony with laughter.
CrossFitters are also unconventional when it comes to diet. Instead of the grain-based dietary recommendations of the U.S. Department of Agriculture, CrossFitters tend to eat a paleo-style diet heavy on meat and unprocessed foods. "Our view," says Glassman, "is that grains are best consumed by livestock, and what homo sapiens need is a diet of meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch and no sugar."
CrossFit is not without its critics. Many conventionally minded trainers believe that the intensity of CrossFit workouts increases the chances of injury. Others, noting the paleo diet, the functional movements and the extraordinary enthusiasm common among CrossFitters, liken CrossFit to a kind of caveman cult. Glassman's response? "The caveman thing? Yeah, I'll tell you what. I don't think it's an insult to any CrossFitter."
The 2013 CrossFit Games start today and culminate on Sunday, July 28, when the winners will be crowned. This year, around 140,000 athletes from around the globe entered the open competition. CrossFit fans can watch live streams of the event Monday-Thursday on the CrossFit games site. The games will be covered by ESPN3 and ESPN2 on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
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Love Crossfit style workouts, meh on actual Crossfit gyms, Crossfit HQ blows goats.
I'm not saying that Glassman, et al., deserve to have Warty rape them to death for driving away Rippetoe, Johnny Pain, and Greg Everett. But if thinking that they're making recompense for their crimes helps them give meaning to their deaths, then I guess that's okay.
It's probably best that Rip got out of Crossfit anyway; it's too fucking culty.
At one point, Crossfit was full of good trainers who could roll their eyes at HQ and the cult. Now, they're all getting shown the door. There are still some great people in the Crossfit ecosystem, like Carl Paoli and Kelly Starrett, but they're the exceptions. And they're probably only hanging on because they happen to get along with the ELITE FITNESS bravado.
Rip's got his own cult to worry about
Maybe you should squat more, bro.
"Strong people are harder to kill, and more useful in general" - Best quote ever
Don't forget Dan John.
And anyone who says it's not worth $60 per month to watch my gym's Crossfit redhead do muscle ups has just never given it a chance.
I like to describe myself as a "Heroin-in-vending-machines libertarian."
Wouldn't we all?
But why do they all have to wax their goddamn chests? Nothing caveman about a waxed chest.
I see you've fallen for the "people are supposed to have body hair" myth. pfht!
Yeah, what's up with that.
But why do they all have to wax their goddamn chests? Nothing caveman about a waxed chest.
I know I'm old and all, but men plucking and waxing still looks strange to me.
I'm only kind of old, and manscaping is the height of ridiculousness. It's one thing if you just don't have hair, but why would you remove it if you do have it? What are your sex partners suppose to run their fingers through post-coitus?
Pardon me... I think I just went blind...
Do you really want to ask that question on this forum?
Leave me alone - the squeeze is off on his usual summer of non-stop work.
Leave me alone - the squeeze is off on his usual summer of non-stop work.
Damn! I was just going to find out how many hours I was going to have to drive to confess my True Lust. (My lust is True, mind you! Not that off-brand junk.)
Yeah, you don't want to come to this hive of scum & villainy.
Yeah, you don't want to come to this hive of scum & villainy.
So you're saying I'd fit right in!
I can't seem to find Mos Eisley on my map.
If there's a bright center to the universe, it's on the planet that it's farthest from.
So you live in D.C.?
I would think the ingrown hair zits would dissuade them of that practice.
Aerodynamics to improve performance maybe?
Oh, well this will definitely get rid of our crazy cultist OCD reputation.
I'm CDO. Just like OCD, but with the letters in the right order like they belong!!!
But not ESPN 8, "The Ocho"?
What the fuck is a "crossfit" and does it have anything to do with Jesus or epilepsy?
Crossfit is a program built around mocking those who exercise themselves into the hospital. Crossfit gives you the sort of muscle strength that is critical for everyday tasks like doing Crossfit workouts.
Stealing that.
Crossfit-style high-intensity interval training workouts have the potential to be the ultimate everyday fitness workout for the average person. Unfortunately, they thought they could cash in on the movement better as a hyperfitness sport a la Spartan Race.
There are so many people I'd point towards Crossfit if I had any confidence at all that the culture wouldn't either scare them away or drive them into the hospital.
It entirely depends on the box. The main coach at mine rolls his eyes at the CrossFit Games stuff: his philosophy is to do CrossFit to "make you better at life".
Agreed. My box is better than average that way. But the Crossfit brand is no guarantee of quality. If anything, given the degrading culture trickling down from CFHQ, a former Crossfit affiliate is probably a safer bet than a current one.
I don't really see the CFHQ stuff as bad, just irrelevant to me. The competitive fitness types should do whatever makes them happy, as long as they don't interfere with what makes my box great. And they haven't. That's part of what's so great about Glassman's hands-off approach.
When they scare off the guys who would correct their mistakes and train the next generation of coaches to be better than the last one, it may not affect us immediately, but it will filter down eventually.
Crossfit was at its best when it was a haven for all kinds of smart fitness oddballs. My hope is that Crossfit knockoffs will coalesce into a real competitor who forces them to shake up the orthodoxy and get back to their roots.
Rebounding box jumps is a good example of a problem CFHQ won't acknowledge, but most of the boxes I know about discourage it now anyway. I think there's a lot of bottom-up and peer-to-peer sharing in CF, rendering irrelevant a lot of what CFHQ says.
NB: I have no direct experience with CF, but I do think some bits of its institutional ethos are loathsome. Rhabdomyolysis is serious business, and kipping exercises are not useful except for training you to do kipping exercises. That said, I'm sure it works for many people (though almost any exercise routine is better than none), and if the cultiness of it all keeps you in the game that's a good thing.
I don't want to get into a whole "thing" with defense of the CF philosophy, but specifically to kipping I think a lot of people misunderstand the CF approach.
CF trains strict movements---pullups, handstand pushups, etc.---because the strict movement promotes strength and form. But during a workout we permit kipping because the *function* is that of getting over the bar or getting to a locked-out position or whatever, and the point of the workout is to achieve the function quickly and at high-intensity. There are a lot of other reasons for this approach, but that's the one most relevant to your objection.
Furthermore, I would argue that kipping is exactly what you need in real life anyway: if you are hanging for your life over a cliff edge (never mind how stupid you were in getting into that situation), are you going to worry about whether your pull up is strict, or are you going to do whatever it takes, including using your hips, to get your ass over the top?
FWIW, I got the lecture about rhabdo my first day as part of a foundations course. My box has never had a case and they're determined to keep that record.
I keep hearing the line about kipping, but I think it misses the point. Compared to going to tiptoes with a loaded bar, jumping rope is a pretty lousy calf workout, but there is some value in doing high volume, high speed, low weight exercises. Kipping pullups are not meant to be an absolute replacement for strict pullups.
The Crossfit fad is funny to me. "Monkey see, monkey do" I guess.
I enjoy only having to spend about 20 minutes per week to trick this body to metabolize adipose tissue and build muscle tissue.
I work out at CrossFit Somerville in MA (and have previously at CrossFit Fenway), and there is definitely a libertarian streak to the CF philosophy that shows up in the types of people who work out there and coach there. I'm not saying it's going to be a Free State Project meetup, but in my experience the types of people who work out at CF boxes are independent and critically thoughtful of conventional wisdom.
I like the people at my box, but the true believers-- the people who show up in standard-issue knee-high socks and board shorts (600+ miles from the nearest beach)? Those people scare me. Fortunately, they're a tiny minority.
There are some Crossfit junkies who really drink the Kool-Aid, but even the CF Games competitors around here aren't even a tenth as bad as the local median yoga studio chick.
I love this type of interview-- wish Reason.tv would do more of it! Reminds me when they interviewed Joshua Zader of The Atlasphere or Bryan Babcock-- a winemaker in California. Inspiring and connecting.
Crossfit is beyond silly with its tattoos and board shorts and high socks and FORGING ELITE ATHLETES faggotry, and Glassman is a gin-addled fat fuck with manboobs, but it has caused a lot of this sort of thing. So I'm in favor of it, even though I hate it.
I like the cross fit ideal of high rep, body weight (or similar) exercises but then there isn't a box within an hour's commute from where I am so I am locked to working out by myself with weights I don't need a spotter for. I have learned a bunch of stuff from the web site most of which I had not heard in the 35 years of various exercise routines I had done before.
The cultishness, hype, and Nazi level dedication to the lifestyle can be a bit freakish but at least they are not pushing some big sky daddy layered over the top. I believe that at least 85% of what they push is based on practical application and most of the other 15% is a reasonable pick from the options available.
Guy looks like Bob the goon from the original Batman movie.
"You're my number one guy!"
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CrossFitting sounds like a good way to get into shape. I've gained a lot weight over the winter. I could use a good workout like this.
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Oh, well this will definitely get rid of our crazy cultist OCD reputation.
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I'm more of a "whores in vending machines" libertarian... wait, that doesn't sound right.
I'll run the gunsmithing kiosk!
....and the brothel is located inside a mall that also offers assisted suicide and day care services.
In the same store?
And the coin slot is lower so that kids can reach it.
I hear it is hard to make a living gun smithing. I've been told because the cost of firearms has come down so much it is usually cheaper to replace the gun than it is to fix it.
I can't wait until automobiles reach this point. Also houses.
We'll make it up on ammo and a new alcoholic beverage I dubbed a "30-Round Clip!"
You're thinking too small.
My gunsmithing kiosk will be doing full-auto conversions on anything from AR's to 1911's, mag-fed conversions to SKS's, and belt-fed conversions to any semi-auto shoulder weapon.
Anybody want a full-auto, belt-fed, 12 gauge Saiga-12?
Somebody needs to watch the kids after the mom decides she can't take it anymore.
Hmmm... I am assuming it is 30 ounces or 30 tiny shots. I suggest changing the name to magazine or the pedants won't drink it.
It also triples as an adoption service.
if by adoption service you mean monocle polishing day laborer center, then yes, "adoption service"