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Norm Macdonald's Comedy Isn't Politically Correct, Which Is Now a Problem: Reason Roundup

Plus: the East Coast braces for impact.

MacDonaldBT1/Brian To/WENN/NewscomThe comedian Norm Macdonald is in hot water after having the audacity to express sympathy for two disgraced friends, Louis C.K. and Roseanne Barr. His transgressions were deemed serious enough that the Tonight Show rescinded its invitation "out of sensitivity to our audience." According to Macdonald, host Jimmy Fallon told him the show's senior producers had broken into tears at the prospect of featuring Macdonald.

Earlier this week, Macdonald gave a controversial interview to The Hollywood Reporter in which he said he was happy the #MeToo movement had slowed down "a bit" because it was quickly moving to a place where everyone would be expected to automatically believe all women (a flawed approach), and he worried innocent men would be ensnared. He also said he felt sorry for two friends: Louis C.K., who was vanished from polite society after numerous women said he revealed himself and attempted to masturbate in front of them without their consent; and Roseanne Barr, whose rebooted show was cancelled after she tweeted racist remarks about former Obama aide Valerie Jarrett. Specifically, MacDonald pointed out that they lost everything in a single day. "The victims didn't have to go through that." The AV Club called the remarks "predictable but disappointing."

Macdonald issued an apology on Twitter:

Then he made things worse, in some people's minds, by going on The Howard Stern Show and attempting to walk back his original statement by saying "you would have to have Down's syndrome" to not feel sorry for #MeToo victims.

This is all pretty obvious outrage fodder for liberals: oh no, the bad comedian said something mean, in a manner that dissents from leftist orthodoxy on believing all victims and calling out every racially problematic statement.

And when something outrages liberals, conservatives must always and automatically defend that thing, even if it really isn't worth defending. Not one, but two writers from The Daily Wire felt the need to play white knight to Macdonald. So did The New York Post and Ricochet. As long as there's even one lib to be owned, so be it. The actor James Woods, a conservative, said this:

So what exactly DOES the #FirstAmendment actually protect? https://t.co/tvE5v88AV5

To which I would respond: well, not your right to appear on the Tonight Show, obviously.

Here's the thing: Macdonald may have been joking. The character he plays is a self-deprecating out-of-his-element kind of guy who acts dumb but possesses a certain wisdom. This nontroversy seems tailor-made to bring out the worst in both the PC left and the own-the-libs right, which is exactly what happened. Maybe Macdonald knew that all along—it's the equivalent of a made-you-look gag. In any case, Macdonald's new Netflix show, Norm Macdonald Has a Show (for now, at least), premieres on Netflix Friday.

FREE MINDS

Video footage leaked to Breitbart of top Google executives bemoaning the victory of Donald Trump in the immediate aftermath of the 2016 presidential election. Breitbart describes the footage as follows:

These individuals, who preside over a company with unrivaled influence over the flow of information, can be seen disparaging the motivations of Trump voters and plotting ways to use their vast resources to thwart the Trump agenda.

Co-founder Sergey Brin can be heard comparing Trump supporters to fascists and extremists. Brin argues that like other extremists, Trump voters were motivated by "boredom," which he says in the past led to fascism and communism.

The Google co-founder then asks his company to consider what it can do to ensure a "better quality of governance and decision-making."

VP for Global Affairs Kent Walker argues that supporters of populist causes like the Trump campaign are motivated by "fear, xenophobia, hatred, and a desire for answers that may or may not be there."

Later, Walker says that Google should fight to ensure the populist movement – not just in the U.S. but around the world – is merely a "blip" and a "hiccup" in a historical arc that "bends toward progress."

CEO Sundar Pichai states that the company will develop machine learning and A.I. to combat what an employee described as "misinformation" shared by "low-information voters."

The story is emblematic of the right's increasing hostility toward tech companies. Laura Ingraham recently called for social media to be regulated like a public utility, and Tucker Carlson is as skeptical of Amazon as Bernie Sanders.

Last week, Google's CEO declined to attend a hearing on Capitol Hill—probably because the company didn't want to answer senators' questions about its cooperation with certain authoritarian governments.

FREE MARKETS

Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson is considering methods to encourage cities and local governments to get rid of exclusionary zoning laws that make it possible to build new housing options. The plan has the support of Bloomberg's Noah Smith, who says it could be a game changer.

QUICK HITS

  • Hurricane Florence will hit the Carolina coast Thursday afternoon, and it's going to be bad.
  • At least a million people are expected to lose power in the coming days due to the storm.
  • Meanwhile, Trump can't stop talking about the last hurricane.
  • Cardinal Donald Weurl plans to inform Pope Francis of his resignation.
  • A member of the Russian protest band Pussy Riot claims he was poisoned.
  • Slate's William Saletan agrees with me that The Weekly Standard's fact-check of ThinkProgress was fundamentally correct.
  • National Review's David French says he regrets some of his earlier coverage of police shootings and the Black Lives Matter movement.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The comedian Norm Macdonald is in hot water...

    This is the straw that finally breaks everyone's camel's back on Norm?

  • Bee Tagger||

    The way you never know when he's doing a bit may finally help his career.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    In the Venn diagram on this thing, I can't imagine there being a large overlap of Norm Macdonald fans and outrage porn fans.

  • lap83||

    BUCS likes Norm and weird porn genres, so maybe he's not the only one?

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    I would imagine that BUCS is an outlier on nearly all Venn diagrams.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    If you ever see a little polyp sticking out the side of a Venn Diagram, that's me.

  • SQRLSY One||

    Is this how one gets Venn-ereal disease?

    Maybe a Venn Diaphram could prevent Venn-ereal disease!!! Can I get a patent on that?!??!

  • ||

    Hello.

    Norm MacDonald is bar none the funniest man alive. And he has guts.

    Unlike the fucken gutless coward pukes on late night TV.

    I'm sick of this faux-outrage bull shit. Fuck 'em all. Let the bastards have it Norm.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    He wanted to go on Fallon's show to suck up to him, you dumbass. That is letting them "have it".

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Why the new name? Were you afraid that we would mistake you for being Todd's plug?

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I think his old account was banned. Then he was LeaveTrumpAlone-ertarian then that gimmick was so embarrassingly unsuccessful he went back to his old name.

  • Braaap!||

    I think you nailed it, "losing his password" once is pretty dumb ( and why not just reset it? Oh yeah, he's using burner emails, wonder why...) but twice is just idiotic. However, for a narcissist with no actual friends or associates, being rejected is worse than being stupid, so he decided to lie about getting banned and go with retarded, because he knows that's how he's thought of already.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    I bought a new computer and can't remember the password to the old email account.

    I posted on here as "shrike" for 7-8 years and lost that email account too.

    But people love the "buttplug" handle so I just modified it.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Who are these "people" exactly?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    His other sock puppets.

  • Sevo||

    Sarah Palin's Buttplug|9.13.18 @ 9:57AM|#
    "I bought a new computer and can't remember the password to the old email account."

    Damn.
    I was hoping you'd died.

  • Braaap!||

    I don't find that like any more convincing than your usual lies, but if true, it says a lot about you that you're too fucking stupid to learn your lesson, and that you can't seem to use an actual email address you own to get the password back.

    That's exceptionally dumb, even for you.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    I've made 40-50 email accounts, you wingnut retard. They retire them if not signed into for a year.

    Now you've learned something for once.

  • Braaap!||

    Yes, we know you run a bunch of sock puppets, but thanks for finally admitting it.

    Now, take the hint, you got banned bitch.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Admitting to having dozens of email addresses doesn't make him look weird.

  • Braaap!||

    You know, Tulpa hasn't been around for a while, and then yesterday that thread exploded with Tulpishness. At exactly the same time Mr Email Addresses reemerges.

    Total coincidence probably.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    It probably is. Tulpa's posts are pretty obvious because his writing style is so distinct. Shriek can't even write barely believable parodies because of his inherent stupidity.

    Shriek's main account probably got banned because the loser sack of shit still hasn't paid the bet he lost.

  • Trank||

    The thing is, there were 2 idiots in that Tulpa thread.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    For all we know, you are Tulpa, Mr. Braaap! You certainly aren't a new user. So why did YOU change your name?

  • Braaap!||

    I didn't, and if you want to think I'm Tulpa then knock yourself out.

    Fuck it, I'M TULPA EVERYONE!!! CHIPPER MORNING BACULUM RUSHES IN HERE TO DEFEND PALIN'S BUTTPLUG AND CAUGHT ME!!!

    I'm SOOOOOOOOO TULPA!!!

    That good enough for ya?

  • Braaap! (defeinitely Tulpa!)||

    So, question for Chipper Morning Baculum who is definitely not just one of shreek's socks.

    Why are you so intent on defending that piece of shit?

    Oh right, you definitely aren't one of his socks

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    I've made 40-50 email accounts, you wingnut retard.

    And here shriek the hicklib waste of life admits he's using burner email accounts to post under various sockpuppet names. You and Dumbfuck Hihnsano truly are two peas in a retarded pod.

    At least Red Tony has the integrity to change his handle using the same account.

  • Red Tony||

    To be fair, I did use a burner email account for this account after my previous one got banned for a parody spam post and I wasn't able to get it whitelisted.

    But I do admit to being Red Tony in my handle. Mostly.

  • Trank||

    I think many posters use one burner account, because they don't want trash and spam.

    That's not really in the same universe as 40 to 50.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    I have this one account. Reason sends retarded spam and I delete it.

    If you're a troll and are hitting numerous sites with day after day of trolling it gets hard keeping all your burner emails straight.

  • The Squat Team||

    "Red Tony|9.13.18 @ 11:27AM|#

    To be fair"

    To shreek? RUFKM?

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    I bought a new computer and can't remember the password to the old email account.

    What, your Coleco finally broke down, you stupid hicklib?

    Fuckin' LOL at shriek being so lazy that he can't even be bothered to update his account properly. Goes hand-in-hand with his inability to read through the links he posts.

  • Trank||

    His explanation doesn't actually make any sense.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    Weigel is a stupid fucking retard who should get his rosace-riddled face smashed in.

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    I've never seen Norm suck up to anybody. He's the peak of "totally don't give a shit about anything" comedy.

  • ||

    I've never seen Norm suck up to anybody.

    And Youtube is full of him "calling people out" (comedically) to their faces.

    I strongly suspect the Senior executives at the *The* Tonight Show were torn between inviting a guest comedian with a new show and inviting a guest that might beclown Fallon, maybe even for being an unfunny sock puppet of the production team.

  • ||

    Somehow I'm not surprised by your response.

    Mr. Classical Liberal. lol.

  • I can't even||

    Anyone who trying to silence Norm can fuck right off.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    If his show gets cancelled I'll make Fallon's producer look tough with how hard I'll be sobbing. Everyone will be maximally uncomfortable.

  • Sevo||

    "According to Macdonald, host Jimmy Fallon told him the show's senior producers had broken into tears at the prospect of featuring Macdonald."

    Give 'em a big hug and kick their asses out the door.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Hurricane Florence will hit the Carolina coast Thursday afternoon, and it's going to be bad.

    I heard Aunt Flo's visit wasn't going to be as bad as they said.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    It was going to be like the tide at Omaha Beach, then it wasn't.

  • BYODB||

    I suspect the guy that decided to name the storm 'Florence' thought they were being clever. And, honestly, it seems they were indeed pretty clever. I made this joke last night to my fiancé that works in Red Cross disaster relief, and she was not amused.

  • damikesc||

    As a survivor of multiple hurricanes, I'm not sure I can remember a storm I was concerned about much less than this.

    And the eye is going to smack into my city --- eventually.

    I'm just annoyed I'll have fucking days on end of rain and wind. I have DirecTV so nothing to watch for days. If I lose internet, I'll be annoyed.

  • The Laissez-Ferret||

    I'm in Greenville but I don't think it will affect my signal too much at least til Sunday. Of course, I really enjoy watching the NFL so that might be interrupted.

  • The Laissez-Ferret||

    I'm in Greenville but I don't think it will affect my signal too much at least til Sunday. Of course, I really enjoy watching the NFL so that might be interrupted.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    If Norm's Netflix show gets cancelled I will be completely defeated.

  • ||

    I feel the same way. Too bad he apologized because we all know that only emboldens and even enrages the piece of shits more. But I understand why he did it with his show about to air.

    Problem it's fricken Netflix. Another 'woke' machine. I'm even surprised they gave him a show.

    Norm believes in comedy. He puts it on the line. Those like him have lost a lot and he may be next in line.

    Where's their Nike deal, eh?

  • Red Tony||

    Bitch, comedians wear New Balance. It's like how jocks wear Nike, punks wear Vans, and posers wear Adidas.

  • BYODB||

    I'm not so sure that Netflix is 'woke' rather than Netflix executives can be conned into buying pretty much any show or movie, regardless of how unwatchable or terrible they may be. It's the 'throw enough shit at the wall' method of content production.

  • Michael S. Langston||

    I'm not sure yet if I fully agree with what I'm about to say, but I'm leaning there and curious...

    I would say over the last 2-3 years Netflix has allowed political biases to affect programming decisions. Still thinking through this so not trying to prove that assertion right now, but am curious if you don't think that's true.

    Thoughts?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    I think more Lefty 'documentaries' and LBGTEIOU films have gotten more initial funding to pitch to Netflix. Netflix still is using the 'shit against the wall to see what sticks' method.

    I do think more Lefty ex-Hollywood people have wiggled into Netflix production teams at the same time.

  • Michael S. Langston||

    Yeah - also the writers on new shows. (Semi-spoiler alert) Only watched portions of a couple new episodes, but with that, on The Iron Fist theres dialog about making the business do only socially cpncious things.

    He's basically a mythical God-given character with abilities only gained through tens of years of the most intensive training on Earth, all while isolated from broader society.he went thru that to be able to protect both those who trained him as well as others in need.

    But instead of training or working Intel or whatever, he's worried about socially acceptable business investments.

    How would a zen-monk guy know enough about western civilization to even contemplate such as thing? Not to mention focusing on misc crap would interfere with the primary goal. The goal he was willing to give his life to attain.

    Yet there is time to stop and dialog about socially conscious business decisions (I suppose in their moral view ethical responsibility to shareholders is meaningless).

    That's how we know he's a real hero, he can not only kick ass, but he believes in all the right things.

    Apologies for length, just hate being preached to while watching fictional shows or comedic/music performances.

    Random tangent: Maybe the left should take this further- if they need police or fire or ambulance, only accept help after proving the provided helpers believe in state provided birth control and shutting down "hate speech" and hatred of Trump and....

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Speaking of Netflix, has anyone else seen "Wild Wild Country"? About Indian guru Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh (Osho)

    Its pretty interesting and reminds us all how much of lunatics Lefties are.

    This cult committed the first bioterrorism attack on a US City and tried to take over a tiny town in Oregon to extort the State of Oregon to approve permits for building a 10,000 person city where there was zero people living before.

    When you hear these Lefties describe their "New Man" is fucking straight out of Communism's "New Soviet Man".

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000...
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 13, 2018

    I hope he has aerial photographs to compare sizes on this.

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    Gosh, it's almost as if a hurricane like Maria really fucks up the infrastructure and it takes a while to get to certain badly damaged areas and figure out how bad it was, and then to get the reports of the damage back out.

  • General_Tso||

    Which is how much of Puerto Rico is at the best of times.

    I have a friend that lived there for years, and she said electricity was intermittent at best and was frequently out for days at a time.

  • Bearded Spock||

    If there were anywhere close to 3,000 dead human bodies on the island immediately after the hurricane passed, it would be stinkingly obvious to everyone, especially in a tropical climate.

    Survivor accounts from Thailand after the 2004 tsunami where a similar number died tell of dead bodies found everywhere and a horrible stench of death covering the land for weeks afterwards. I don't remember reading any such accounts from Puerto Rico last year.

    So it turns out that these "extra" dead people are dead as a result of health problems caused by infrastructure deficiencies long after the hurricane passed.

    Which may indeed be correct. But do they count the death total like this for any other disaster? And is this total an actual count of bodies, or just an estimate? And what the hell was the PR government doing all this time?

    If it turns out that this number is just a guess, Trump might just be right.

  • Conchfritters||

    "And what the hell was the PR government doing all this time?"

    The same thing the bond holders were doing - praying for a bailout.

  • BYODB||

    I read the CNN story regarding this particular issue this morning, and while the headline said that Trump outright lied they confirmed in the body of the story that, no, actually Trump told the truth. They are indeed fake news.

  • MiloMinderbinder||

    The story is emblematic of the right's increasing hostility toward tech companies.


    This story is emblematic of tech companies' increasing hostility toward the right.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    Because "the right" has turned into a bunch of greasy-ass redneck Trumptards.

  • Stilgar||

    These are not government run entities, they can do and say as they wish. If the "right" and Trumptards don't like Google, FB, Twitter, etc then they should not use them or create their own alternatives. After so many years of moaning about the far left they have manged to double down on snowflakism.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Unfortunately, when you take money from the US Gov as a contractor, which Google has, it comes with some concessions.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    Those "concessions" would be spelled out in the contract, you idiot.

    Except they don't exist except in your imagination.

  • Braaap!||

    Hey, stupid guy who can't use the internet properly and remember a fucking password, you don't get to call anyone an idiot.

  • Michael S. Langston||

    lol - Google like all other companies makes concessions to do business with the federal government.

    For instance, a guess is Google searches and search technology is used by governments to find dissidents, terrorists, or in the US, to find anyone, all of which is very against their public posturing.

    Note one thing we're sure they allowed was a direct NSA hookup to their servers to allow the Intel community to do just this.

    Not saying they're a horrible company, but I am saying, like all other companies, they don't have the power to not concede.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    Yes, the Bratfart crowd are the ultimate in triggered bitches.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    We learned from the Lefty bitches.

  • Magnitogorsk||

    Well, at least you admit it

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Oh I thought YOU meant that "I" trigger bitches, which I do.

    I triggered you. I trigger Tony. I trigger Tony's Mom.

  • Braaap!||

    So how triggered are you when you bitch about them, and hate them so much that you make up a childish epithet?

    It looks like a lot.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    These are not government run entities, they can do and say as they wish.

    And when the Tech Trust starts using its vast resources and dominant market share to influence elections, then it's going to get targeted.

    Nuking these small-souled bugmen would be a national service. Same with the Hollywood entertainment complex.

  • Careless||

    Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with Soave that he could read that and draw *that* conclusion from it? It might be a good reason for the Right to increase its hostility towards tech companies, but it cannot be emblematic of what Soave said, as they didn't cause it and didn't even know about it

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Video footage leaked to Breitbart of top Google executives bemoaning the victory of Donald Trump in the immediate aftermath of the 2016 presidential election.
    The story is emblematic of the right's increasing hostility toward tech companies.

    The story is emblematic that the tech companies are a bunch of liars who are not apolitical and got caught.

    Just like when Hillary got caught.

    Just like when Weinstein got caught.

    The media has lost the power to control the narrative and that is the biggest problem here.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Off to speak at Google today. My message: software engineers are now social engineers. #FuturePolitics

    The FB Censorship Army Is In Attack Mode, Just In Time For Midterms.
    Except for Daddy Facebook. I don't know what it is with that guy and his hatred for freedom and those who love it. Back on September 7th, Ashley wrote a post about Beto O'Rourke renting a VA hall for a rally. And how he wasn't too pleased with all the American flags around. Of course, like ALL of our posts, she cited the source for the post, which was from Erick Erickson who pulled it originally from the Navasota Examiner, which is the local (online) paper in Navasota, Texas. Note that the original source remains intact, but Facebook sent this little note to Ashley today:

    We know what this means. This means that we've been flagged by Facebook as one of those "oooooh, y'all are slinging fake news around" sites because, bottom line – we're conservative.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • Rich||

    If it detects itself we've reached the singularity.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Last week, Google declined to attend a hearing on Capitol Hill—probably because the company didn't want to answer senators' questions about its cooperation with certain authoritarian governments.

    thereby disproving the notion that they cooperate with authoritarian governments. logically indestructible.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Cardinal Donald Weurl plans to inform Pope Francis of his resignation.

    Sparing His Holiness the unfortunate task of not firing him.

  • Conchfritters||

    Resigning - what a pussy. Martin Luther nailed 95 "fuck offs" to church door, and then went and married a nun.

  • ||

    ^
    Best post in the thread

  • Juice||

    But I think it's illegal to marry an underaged altar boy.

  • MiloMinderbinder||

    The story is emblematic of the right's increasing hostility toward tech companies.

    The story is emblematic of tech companies' increasing hostility toward the right.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Slate's William Saletan agrees with me that The Weekly Standard's fact-check of ThinkProgress was fundamentally correct.

    Fundamentally correct is the best kind of correct.

  • Bearded Spock||

    Fundamentalist Correct is even better.

    "I tell you, my Brothers and Sisters, I know, I KNOW my facts are true! Can I get an amen?!"

    "AMEN!"

    "And I correctly cited all my sources!!"

    "HALLELUJAH!!"

    "And they were all peer-reviewed prior to publication in respectable journals!!!!"

    "GLORY BE!!!"

  • lap83||

    So Norm MacDonald implies he has Down's Syndrome and liberals are still not happy? Good grief, some people are hard to please.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I believe his brother does. Or at least, he has a brother with some significant mentally illness.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • Rich||

    "That is, of course, if their homelands let them back in."

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Moreover, while it is very true that black men represent a disproportionate share of police-shooting victims relative to their share of the general population, it is much less clear that they represent a disproportionate share of victims relative to their share of the criminal population.

    Oh boy.

  • Rich||

    The vast majority of black men are law-abiding, but black men are still far more likely to commit crimes such as murder or armed robbery than whites.

    "And don't even get me started about *Muslims*!"

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Or illegals being 100% criminals for crossing the US border without permission.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • ||

    "And when something outrages liberals, conservatives must always and automatically defend that thing, even if it really isn't worth defending."

    You don't thinking defending someone's free speech is worth it? Now there are degrees to which we must pick and choose our battles?

    Are you for real with this false equivalence? It's Robbyesque.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Not even free speech. Norm's sentiment is that he has friends, people he has known for years and whom he loves, who fucked up and lost almost everything. And that he feels sympathy for his friends.

    This is also just basic forgiveness. It's that when people do bad things, they still don't lose their human worth. I think Chappelle had a great discussion about his feelings towards Cosby as well, that when someone you love does something bad, you can't just evaporate all your love for them overnight. That's psychotic to do that.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    "...that when someone you love does something bad, you can't just evaporate all your love for them overnight. That's psychotic to do that."

    Its required in identity politics. Everyone has to be on the same daily narrative and you need to quickly punish those that do not comply.

  • Nardz||

    Personal (individual) loyalty is unacceptable in a progressive society.
    Only the abstract and collective have value.

  • Rich||

    Then he made things worse, in some people's minds, ... by saying "you would have to have Down's syndrome" to not feel sorry for #MeToo victims.

    You would have to have Alzheimer's disease to not understand he was furthering the comedial saga.

    Am I doing this right?

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    The story is emblematic of the right's increasing hostility toward tech companies.

    Wingnuts are hostile to all sorts of American institutions, ENB. They hate colleges/universities, the NFL, the media, the First Amendment, Disney, and so on.

    But mostly they hate facts.

    By Glenn Kessler
    September 12 at 3:00 AM
    More than two-thirds of every factual claim made by President Trump at two of his rallies turns out to be false, misleading or unsupported by evidence.

    In July, The Fact Checker examined every factual claim made by the president at a rally in Montana. He returned to Montana on Sept. 6, and we decided once again to put every statement of material fact to the truth test to see whether the July rally was an outlier.

    In July, 76 percent of his 98 statements were false, misleading or unsupported by the evidence. Last week the tally, out of 88 statements, was 68 percent. The average percentage for the two rallies was 72 percent.

    WP

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    "They hate colleges/universities, the NFL, the media, the First Amendment, Disney, and so on."

    I mean, yeah, it's almost like they're every bit as hateful as the left.

    Your words in this post caused me physical pain, like literal violence, and you should be punished for doing so.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    Prog hate is second-hand hate.

    example - Conservative "I hate all fags"

    Prog replies "Well I hate you for hating GAY people"

    Which is the worse hate?

    (personally fags are okay with me)

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    That's not true. Hell, Progs hate ME because of the circumstances of my birth, over which I had no influence.

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    That's not true. Hell, Progs hate ME because of the circumstances of my birth, over which I had no influence.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    Progs hate lumberjacks?

    Monty Python made you guys lovable.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Lefties are just upset that their tactics are being used to shut them down....and its working.

  • Michael S. Langston||

    Almost everything any politician says publicly is about what may/may not happen if a given idea is implemented/funded/defunded/killed/etc.

    As such, most of those statements cannot be proven true or false as they always involve predictions based upon a hypothetical future.

    And if they're not talking about that, they're usually giving their opinion on the latest social issue.

    Which simply means any fact-checker checking these statements and not limiting themselves to evaluating only truly falsifiable statements, will not be checking factual accuracy of statements, but rather checking their own biases.

    But you keep acting as if someone calling the self a fact-checker on the internet somehow makes their fact checking accurate and unbiased and therefore makes their conclusions somehow a definitive evaluation of reality.

    Though truth is if they could evaluate reality very well, they'd likely be making serious income while doing things which actually impact others as opposed to openly exposing their biases while denying their existece.

  • Conchfritters||

    His transgressions were deemed serious enough that the Tonight Show rescinded its invitation "out of sensitivity to our audience."

    Is your audience a bunch of thumb sucking twits?

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Yes

  • TW||

    Those aren't "thumbs."

  • Shirley Knott||

    They aren't big enough...

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    Of course, Republicans are pouncing on the fact that some people who work at Google happen to be Clinton supporters. So what? Drumpf had a far more important unfair tech-related advantage in the 2016 election — Russian hacking. That's what we should be talking about. The Google video is a total non-story.

    #TrumpRussia
    #StillWithHer

  • perlchpr||

    Enh. 5/10. Feels forced.

  • Michael S. Langston||

    How about:

    Republicans are pouncing on the fact that some people who work at Google happen to be Clinton supporters.

    Of course Google employees are mostly Clinton supporters as Google hires the smartest people in the world and anyone with half a brain knows Trump is objectively evil and trumptards are racist misogynist ,,,, etc/etc/etc

    Key point when parodying the far left, their belief in their superiority (true of most political fanatics regardless of idealogy). In RPG terms: zero on humility and self awareness, with arrogance and self-rightesness maxed out.

    But mostly you do this much better than I ever could, this one just had the parallel where liberals think the fact most journalists and PhDs are Ds is because those people truly understand how things are/are the smartest people (respectively).

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    A member of the Russian protest band Pussy Riot claims he was poisoned.

    Putin is a tremendous poisoner. Absolutely spectacular.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Stalin liked to have his biggest enemies run over by trucks.

    Poisoning is a women's weapon.

    HERE THAT PUTIN?

  • Bearded Spock||

    WHERE THAT PUTIN?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Where you PUTIN that?

  • Mickey Rat||

    ...or a eunuch's.

  • Conchfritters||

    "He" was poisoned? I thought the band was full of Russian women folk?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I think he was the manager. Pretending to play instruments and singing into a mic is one thing, but did you think anyone but a man could manage a band? It's right there in the word.

  • Rich||

    At least a million people are expected to lose power in the coming days due to the storm.

    But that won't stop them from Tweeting and Facebooking about it.

  • lap83||

    "this will be my last tweet before my phone dies forever....*inserts numerous melodramatic emojis*"

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    And when something outrages liberals, conservatives must always and automatically defend that thing, even if it really isn't worth defending.

    This isn't worth defending?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The story is emblematic of the right's increasing hostility toward tech companies.

    And Google's hostility toward the right (or whatever you call Trump).

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Housing and Urban Development Secretary Ben Carson is considering methods to encourage cities and local governments to get rid of exclusionary zoning laws that make it possible to build new housing options.

    If it works, Carson's earned a gold-plated dining table.

  • Ken Shultz||

    "According to Macdonald, host Jimmy Fallon told him the show's senior producers had broken into tears at the prospect of featuring Macdonald."

    They should break into tears at the prospect of NOT featuring Macdonald. When I think of all the funniest things I've seen on late night talk shows over the years, Norm probably features in three out of five and Jimmy Fallon's Tonight Show features in exactly none of them. If the Tonight Show's senior producers break into tears at the thought of featuring Norm Macdonald, then the that's the funniest thing that's happened on the Tonight Show since Jimmy Fallon took over.

  • damikesc||

    "He might make...,might make...he might make...might make...he might make people laugh!

    WE CANNOT HAVE THAT JIMMY!

    The network hired all of us to insure that nobody could possibly laugh!"

  • lap83||

    I agree with @Noahpinion that we must look at increasing the supply of affordable housing by reducing onerous zoning regulations. Zoning laws are holding back America's cities.

    That sounds great if the new housing options are privately funded. Some of the zoning regulations probably stem from no one wanting their business to be near the crime-ridden projects

  • Ken Shultz||

    Want to see evidence of some real revolutionary change courtesy of Elon Musk?

    "Boring Company approved to build a tunnel entrance inside a residential garage"

    http://arstechnica.com/cars/20.....al-garage/

    When I first read about using pneumatic tubes for transportation, it was when I was in junior high--back during one of the oil shocks--in an issue of Omni. That magazine was like a mixture of science fiction and cutting edge applications of real technology, just the kind of thing to fire the imagination of a young, budding capitalist like me. They would write about what it would take to really build the space elevator, and they would write about what it would take to build the kind of pneumatic tube transportation system in the same way. Like I said, where science fiction and speculation about practical application come together.

    Anyway, point is that I think people misunderstand the appeal of the Boring Company. They think about it from the perspective of people's political concerns about global warming, etc., but the transformative application of this technology isn't really about that. The revolutionary change is people having access to a mass transportation system (maybe even privately owned) that can hit speeds to rival travel by airplane, and best of all, you can use that transportation system--without ever having to leave your car.

  • Trank||

    Musk is a fraud and you're a gullible idiot.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Hi Tulpa!

  • Trank||

    He thinks you're a gullible idiot too? I guess a stopped clock and all that.

  • Ken Shultz||

    If you're not Tulpa, you might as well be.

    And the revolutionary aspect of being able to use high speed mass transit is being able to do so without leaving your car--before Musk was involved and regardless of whether Musk is involved. He just happens to be the one building a functioning prototype in the same town where his Space X headquarters is located.

    Meanwhile, replacing public mass transit with a privately funded alternative remains a distinctly libertarian goal.

    "The [high-speed link from downtown Chicago to the soon-to-be-expanded O'Hare Airport] project is unusual in that no government funding is involved, forcing the winner to finance the entire construction cost itself."

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/.....-train-bid

    Are you lame enough to be rooting against that project's success because Musk is involved?

    Meanwhile, there wasn't anything fraudulent about SpaceX landing and relaunching a rocket with that much launch capacity.

  • BYODB||

    It's...not a great plan to build long tunnels underground for high-speed mass transit. Especially if you're going to try and transport people's entire vehicle along with it. The inefficiencies are obvious at first glance.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Between downtown and O'Hare, disrupting all that valuable real estate on the surface might be more expensive. Tunneling may be expensive, but it's been a cost effective way to avoid more expensive alternatives for a long time. Railways have been tunneling through mountains for a long time.

    Oh, and they've built above ground systems, as well. I think the tunneling is mostly about the ease of getting past easements through densely populated areas and the lower cost of not disrupting traffic and real estate on the surface. But if they don't need to go underground, they don't have to.

  • creech||

    The AP report in today's paper says that PR officials admit they had only planned for Cat.1 Hurricanes. So, Trump's FEMA had seven and a half months to ferret this fact out and demand corrective action! Shocking that they failed!
    But, on the other hand, Obama's FEMA had eight f...king years to notice this gross underplanning and did nothing!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...probably because the company didn't want to answer senators' questions about its cooperation with certain authoritarian governments.

    Thus inviting unwanted comparisons to the hated president of the United States.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...numerous women said he revealed himself and attempted to masturbate in front of them without their consent...

    I thought he did ask consent and the issue was that he would put underlings in that position in the first place.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...after she tweeted racist remarks about former Obama aide Valerie Jarrett.

    Supposedly racist remarks. There's no way that's an objective given.

  • Rich||

    Serious question: Did Jarrett herself ever comment on the kerfuffle?

  • Just Say'n||

    She expressed faux outrage. I'm old enough to remember when Reason would brush off a bad remark about a public figure, but their conservative inclinations always leads them to defending the status quo

  • Rich||

    Thanks, JS!

  • Just Say'n||

    No, thank you

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    No, thank me.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I appreciate your recent trend of calling them conservative.

  • Just Say'n||

    "And when something outrages liberals, conservatives must always and automatically defend that thing, even if it really isn't worth defending."

    This is peak retarded, Robby.

    You even seem to think the outrage is stupid and yet if conservatives agree with you they did something wrong. You make no sense whatsoever here.

    This is almost as stupid as the man who smeared Walter Block as a neo-confederate in the NYT telling us to be kind to socialists.

  • Sevo||

    "EU cracking down on extremist content"
    [...]
    "BRUSSELS — European authorities are planning to slap internet companies like Google, Twitter and Facebook with big fines if they don't take down extremist content within one hour.
    European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said in a speech Wednesday that the commission is proposing the new rules as part of efforts to step up the bloc's security.
    He said that removing material within an hour is important because it's "the critical window in which the greatest damage is done."
    https://www.sfgate.com/business/article
    /EU-cracking-down-on-extremist-
    content-13225036.php

    He can't define it, but he knows what it is when he sees it!

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    This triggered ass shit makes me sick.

    Jamie Dimon has to apologize for telling the truth about the Con Man:


    Jamie Dimon Quickly Backtracks on Bragging He Could Beat Trump
    By Michelle Davis and Max Abelson
    September 12, 2018, 11:02 AM EDT Updated on September 12, 2018, 12:38 PM EDT
    'I'm as tough as he is, I'm smarter than he is,' Dimon said
    JPMorgan's CEO then backtracked: 'I should not have said it'

    Dimon also said he earned his money while Trump was gifted his (true)

  • Just Say'n||

    So, you're defending Jamie Dimon? The same Dimon who insisted on bank bailouts during the downturn? Man, some libertarians have made some really odd allies.

  • Sarah Palin's Buttplug||

    Dimon tried to refuse the Bushpigs mandatory TARP loans. He said Morgan had a "fortress balance sheet" and didn't need it.

    Yes, I like Dimon.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Dimon tried to refuse the Bushpigs mandatory TARP loans.

    "Oh, please, Mr. Government Man, don't give me that money!"

    Tell us another one, you mendacious bitch.

  • BYODB||

    Mandatory loans? Are you batshit?

  • ||

    Dimon also said he earned his money while Trump was gifted his (true)

    6/10 - Trump was gifted his money from his father but it's not like Dimon's parents couldn't rub two nickels together or he had to work his way up from the mail room.

  • brec||

    get rid of exclusionary zoning laws that make it possible to build new housing options

    Huh? I can't put my finger on a typo; a ... mind-o?

  • Dillinger||

    >>>show's senior producers had broken into tears

    Fallon should be ashamed he didn't take up for Norm.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Hopefully this is the start of a glorious new trend over the next 2-6 years:

    Sociology professor SHOOTS himself in a college campus bathroom to protest President Trump

    And the cherry on top is that this hippie Boomer burnout, not having held anything resembling a firearm since playing "cowboys and Indians" in elementary school, couldn't even kill himself properly and is now being charged for felony gun crimes.

    Remember, shitlibs, when you shoot yourself to protest BLARNLD BLUMPH, point the gun *under* your chin for maximum damage. You could also try self-immolation or jumping off a skyscraper.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Wanting to quit life is like wanting to quit smoking or drinking--people are often unsuccessful the first time they try.

    Our brain is even more wired for survival than when we're addicted to some substance, and the subconscious desire not to shoot themselves in the head often wins out. I think it's associated with the same reason ancient warriors drank alcohol before battle--getting drunk before fighting tends to kill the survival instinct. They wanted their soldiers to get to that state in the bar, where you want to sock the guy in the bar stool next to you--even if he's twice your size. You don't think about getting hurt so much anymore.

    No doubt, when people go nutty, the nuttiness tends to express itself in terms of their preferred narrative--be it God, aliens, conspiracy theories, or Donald Trump. I don't think we should look at this guy as emblematic of anything but what happens when people go nutty. If he'd tried to kill himself because aliens or God told him to do it, wouldn't we feel sorry for him? When he was more rational, he thought about Trump. Being crazy is like being sane, like that, only more so.

    Dig deeper, and I bet there was a lot more going on in this guy's "emeritus" life. Being retired sucks.

  • BYODB||

    There's a somewhat rich history of self-immolation in protest, but I suspect a sociology professor doesn't have the same level of belief as, say, a Buddhist Monk.


    It was Western media coverage of Buddhist monk Thich Quang Duc's suicide by fire in protest of the Buddhist crisis caused by the Vietnamese Ngo Dinh Diem regime in 1963 that introduced the word self-immolation to a wide English-speaking audience and gave it a strong association with fire.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Shooting yourself takes a second and then its over. If you can make it to the actually pulling the trigger, the hard part is over.

    Self-immolation takes more than a few seconds to kill you. You are literally burning alive and I understand that burning is very painful until the end. All your bad decisions (or good decisions) become the absolute reality that you are on fire and still alive.

  • damikesc||

    Norm made the cardinal mistake. He apologized. If I was handling PR for anybody, I'd say NEVER apologize. It does not and will not help you.

  • damikesc||

    And when something outrages liberals, conservatives must always and automatically defend that thing, even if it really isn't worth defending.

    Yes. It's important to join a braying mob, Robby.

  • chipper me timbers||

    "Roseanne Barr, whose rebooted show was cancelled after she tweeted racist remarks about former Obama aide Valerie Jarrett. "

    Uhh... you mean "remarks that labeled racist by hysterical SJWs on twitter. You have to squint and stare a long time to say that her comments were indeed racist.

  • Nardz||

    Fuck Reason software

  • Nardz||

    Gxchh

  • Nardz||

    Test comment

  • Nardz||

    Interesting.
    Usually read reason on my phone, using duckduckgo.
    Today, comments stopped working - when I hit submit, the page reloads but goes to the top, and the comment disappears into nothingness.
    So I used chrome for this one, and voila!

  • Nardz||

    Comments broken on mobile.
    Reply disappears when you hit submit.
    Reason has absolutely shit software

  • loveconstitution1789||

    You have to refresh 10 times to work.

    Reason is spending money on getting invites rather than making sure website works.

  • Nardz||

    Wtf???

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    The Google co-founder then asks his company to consider what it can do to ensure a "better quality of governance and decision-making."

    Am I the only one who finds it mildly amusing that the Breitbart people think Google's executive asking for "better quality of governance and decision-making" thinks that this request is a way to *undermine* Trump?

  • Michael S. Langston||

    lol - damn you're stupid or trying to be clever, but failing... not sure which, but the Google execs conversations about better decision making has context and in contect, they called roughly 1/2 those who voted racist facists.

    So, it begs the quesion: what was meant by better decision making within the context of execs expressing disgust to tens of millions of US citizens?

    Or said another way - what if Hitler were overheard saying this after a 20 second anti-semitic rant?

    Separately - some of the left seem to have this belief in the infallibility of those they think are strong allies, Google, Apple, etc, etc, etc. It's odd given all those companies are successful based upon their focus on finding ways to make profit and exploiting them.

    IE - if 70% of the country somehow decided to support Trump, Google would change things in order to not pass of 70% of their users. Their beliefs likely wouldn't change, but their actions would.

    Point being - why try to pump up the credibility of groups/organizations/entities whose incentives are almost exclusively on growing the organization and nothing more?

  • Vernon Depner||

    So what exactly DOES the #FirstAmendment actually protect?

    The question is, what does respect for freedom of speech actually protect? The right to freedom of expression exists independently of the First Amendment.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    His transgressions were deemed serious enough that the Tonight Show rescinded its invitation "out of sensitivity to our audience." According to Macdonald, host Jimmy Fallon told him the show's senior producers had broken into tears at the prospect of featuring Macdonald.

    Huh, apparently someone hasn't been paying much attention to Norm Macdonald.

  • Michael S. Langston||

    They don't really need to as they don't really care who Norman or Roseanne or anyone else is on any real basis. They only care if they can use those people for their political goals - whether they're racist or sexist or anything else matters not, so long as those negatives aren't noticed by others.

    As soon as society notices, then they pretend to give a damn, but in reality they don't care anymore than a terrorist groups cares if the money they're using was sent by a pacifist who disagrees with their end goals.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Hey, Soave did these.

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