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Elizabeth Warren's Corporate Buttinskyism Is the Future Liberals Want: Podcast

What could go wrong with federalizing the corporate charter process and putting bureaucrats in charge of long-term business thinking?

Is the new corporate-charter bill unveiled by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) last week a plot to "To Destroy Capitalism By Pretending To 'Save' It," as the Scott Shackford headline put it? Or is it another "clear" example (in the words of Vox's Matthew Yglesias) that "the people working on this subject so far don't actually know anything about it"?

We put that question to the test on today's editor-roundtable version of the Reason Podcast, first by running the details through Peter "Computerman" Suderman, then adding some hot sauce from Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and me. Other issues coming under discussion: the Catholic abuse/coverup scandal, the "good and bad news" about John Brennan getting his security clearance revoked, the journalism profession's haughty self-regard, and Gary Johnson's shockingly competitive poll numbers in New Mexico.

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Relevant links from the show:

"Elizabeth Warren Plans To Destroy Capitalism By Pretending To 'Save' It," by Scott Shackford

"Elizabeth Warren's 'Rules' for Markets Won't 'Make Capitalism Great Again' But May Help Her 2020 Chances," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown

"It Sure Seems Like Elizabeth Warren Is Running for President. Could She Topple Trump?" by Ira Stoll

"Progressive Insurgents Endorsed by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Lost to Moderate Opponents In Tuesday's Primaries," by Christian Britschgi

"Contract Killing," by Matt Welch

"Pennsylvania Lawmakers Want to Lift the Statute of Limitations Amid the Catholic Priest Sex Abuse Report," by Zuri Davis

"Revoking Ex-CIA Chief John Brennan's Security Clearance Is Both Good and Bad News," by Scott Shackford

"Rand Paul: Trump Should Keep Revoking Ex-Obama Officials' Security Clearances," by Joe Setyon

"Newspapers Team Up to Tell Trump They Aren't Colluding Against Him," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown

"Trump's Presser with Putin Was Disgraceful. But No, It's Not 'Treason' to Meet with Russia," by Robby Soave

"The Deep-State Liars of the #Resistance," by Matt Welch

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  • John||

    The flip side of Warren's proposal is that all of the "priorities" other than return on investment would inevitably involve giving money to liberal causes and liberal political organizations. Like everything with the left, it all comes down to looting the economy for their benefit.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    I'm often ostracized and attacked here when I suggest it may be necessary to actually destroy the progressives.

    The Fauxcahontas goes and proved me right with this kind of bullshit. It may truly come down to choosing between peace and civility while accepting socialist slavery, or pushing back violently and rstroying these progressives, as there are now million of them that won't stop until they're dead.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Yglesias seems to have a rosy view of government bureaucracy no matter who is at the helm. I admire that.

    And does no one even realize that if you rotate 180 degrees the d in Suderman you get an entirely different person and almost definitely run into copyright infractions?

  • John||

    It is all the same conceit that says retards like Yglesias know better how money should be spent than the people who earned it. Yglesias is so stupid he can't write a letter-perfect opinion column or dress in clothes that match. But, he is absolutely certain that he should be controlling your life because he knows better what is good for you than you do.

    If it wasn't so dangerous, it would be comical.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    He also has this idea that anything that is targeted at the largest of corporations would only affect those corporations, as though large bureaucratic incursions into the market don't ripple.

  • John||

    or that "corporations" are anything other than the people who own and work for them. Harming corporations is harming people. Retards like Yglesias never get that.

  • Mithrandir||

    But the "people" are 1%ers and therefore aren't really people.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    I would counter that progressives aren't really people as they have no souls. So hurting them isn't really hurting people.

  • Nardz||

    I don't necessarily consider progressives people either, but because they are a hive mind. Like insects

  • Henry Buttal||

    And apparently, he doesn't let his own negative experience with bureaucrats teach him anything- from a few years ago on Slate:

  • Duelles||

    Great find. Thanks for this and establishing the idiocy quotient.

  • Shirley Knott||


  • Juice||

    A copyright that was initiated about 80 years ago. How long should it last?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Until our yellow sun dies out.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    Or even longer. If The Doctor can receive a whole new cycle of regenerations, Superman can outlast our yellow sun.

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  • Robert||

    What about Indonesians named Suparman?

  • Ken Shultz||

    The less we talk about Liz Warren, the less likely she is to be the Democrats' candidate--and I consider her to be about the worst of the bunch.

    She's worse than Obama. She's worse than Bernie Sanders.

    She didn't sell our national security out from under us for cold hard cash, so she's better than Hillary Clinton--but that isn't saying much.

  • Enjoy Every Sandwich||

    She didn't sell our national security out from under us for cold hard cash, so she's better than Hillary Clinton--but that isn't saying much.

    I suspect the only reason for that is that she didn't have anything to sell regarding national security. Becoming President would fix that for her, wouldn't it?

  • Jerryskids||

    What's the deal with Warren's neck jutting out like that? I'm not a doctor, but it looks alarming, looks like it could use an adjustment with a baseball bat. Hey, if she's qualified to arrange the economic affairs of millions of people, surely I'm qualified to diagnose and prescribe treatment for jutty-neck syndrome.

  • John||

    Maybe it is a trait that runs in her tribe.

  • sarcasmic||

    Which tribe is that? Pencilneck?

  • John||

    Turkey neck.

  • loveconstitution1789||


  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Probably subconsciously trying to make herself look shorter (she's 5'8", so she's a little taller than average), since a lot of journalists are shrimps and she doesn't want to look like she's towering over them.

  • Robert||

    Probably ankylosing spondylitis. Many people develop a little of it with age, since it's just osteoarthritis of the spine. A few people get severe cases young.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    I'll take Democratic "corporate buttinskyism" over GOP white nationalism any day. If Drumpf's draconian immigration policies aren't reversed soon, our economy will continue to tank. Any Democratic President, including Elizabeth Warren, would be a dramatic improvement over Putin's Puppet from an economic POV.


  • Mithrandir||

    I haven't seen a single self-professed libertarian, cosmo or otherwise, ever say they would vote for Warren. Maybe I don't peruse the social media enough or something.

  • JrJr||

    libertariansforwarren.....This is like saying jewsforhitler....Wouldnt one burst into flames for suggesting such a fucked up idea?

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    True OBL, if Trump's policies persist much longer, the black unemployment rate might fall further, and wages might spike upwards. The. They wouldn't be dependent on the democrat party anymore.

    Where would we all be if that happened?

  • NashTiger||

    You need your own column at Vox

  • Paloma||

    What makes you think Warren would be different? She's even more depressing than Hillary.

  • Just Say'n||

    Stop conflating "socialist" policies with "liberalism". This is essentially an attempt to seize the means of production

  • ||

    Count me among those who are very glad Warren is putting her ideas out there to be discussed. First, it exposes the true colors of the far Left. Second, if she does somehow become the nominee of the Left (I'd say there's a 25% chance), these positions make her completely unelectable.

    Keep running that mouth, kemosahbe.

  • ||

    Yglesias is a retard and giving him any kind of attention is dumb.


  • Happy Chandler||

    We've been successful basically letting Delaware write the national rules for incorporation, right?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    As few rules to incorporation, the better.

  • Uncle Jay||

    Elizabeth Warren's Corporate Buttinskyism Is the Future Liberals Want: Podcast

    So what else is new?

  • Patrick Henry||

    "...then adding some hot sauce from Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie and me."

    I wouldn't mind trying Katherine's hot sauce. I'll pass on the other two.

  • Social Justice is neither||

    Lizzie Warren is just out looking for a new government money laundering operation to fund left wing priorities now that her original baby was taken away from her despite everything she did to make sure it was unaccountable and unlikely to ever have opposition input.

  • Salero21||

    Lizzie Warren is a COMMIE, cuckoo, and a Loony who belongs in the Loony bin. She suffers from frequent attacks of hysteria and panic.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    If we had McCarthyism 2.0, then we could send her and all the other high ranking progressives to GitMo.

  • Jerry B.||

    Since five year plans worked so well in the Soviet Union, Ms. Warren wants to bring them here.

    No thanks.

  • NashTiger||

    If Workers should have 40% of the Board of Corporations, shouldn't Corporations appoint 40% of the Union bosses? and get 40% of the Union vote?

    strikes might get settled sooner

  • NashTiger||

    Shouldn't ALL the stakeholders get a say over the workers? The customers, the vendors, the shareholders, the retirees, the 'community' ....

  • microsoft support||

    Nice article. Visit

  • Fuck you, Shikha (Nunya)||

    Can you help me? One of your guys called last week and said I had errors. But he could never help me get to the source. I think I use Windows 2.0. It may take a while to do things since I have to load setup from 5.25 floppies.

  • Fuck you, Shikha (Nunya)||

    And why are you on a libertarian site? Well, at least what passes for one occasionally? Did Satya Nadella turn around Microsoft's long storied liberal bent?

  • Juvenal||

    As if Warren is any model of financial or moral probity.Just consider her shady record of real estate dealings. Also, consider how she got the undeserved position and huge salary at Harvard Law School (with a degree from non-Ivy law program) taking advantage of affirmative action as a "Native American" (and won't submit to a DNA test) . And now she is playing the low-info cohort of the electorate with proposals she knows have no chance whatsoever of becoming law. Anything to get the nomination.

    At one time, in my naivete and former life as a Democrat in 2016, I thought she might be a good alternative to Hillary. In the two years since, I've read enough about Warren to know that the only reason she hasn't been as big a grifter as the late and unlamented former Democratic presidential candidate/disaster, is that she hasn't had the Clinton machine and Bill enabling her. What has become plain to me -- and I #justwalkedaway from the Demos -- is that Ms. Warren is just another pol with as much honesty -- or lack thereof -- as any other, and just as much self-absorbed ambition.


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