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3 Things People Don't Get About the Homemade Gun Making Story

The government's decision to settle a lawsuit with Defense Distributed doesn't change anything significant. It's not Trump's fault. And the underlying case was as much about free speech as it was about guns.

[This post had been updated to reflect breaking news since original posting.]

The whole world, including President Donald Trump, seems to be going nuts about the fact that the feds have settled a long-simmering lawsuit that challenged its attempt to prohibit the company Defense Distributed from making available certain software that could instruct certain devices to manufacture weapons.

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You can catch up on what's going on with Reason's reporting on the frantic wave of attempts in the past week—by upset gun control groups, threatening petty officials, and litigious state governments—to scuttle the settlement.

And this afternoon, in that last suit filed in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington by eight states and the District of Columbia, a temporary restraining order was indeed issued against Defense Distributed to stop them for now from continuing to distribute the software. (Despite news reports that Defense Distributed was holding to an August 1 deadline to restart the distribution, they in fact began distributing the files days ago.) The next hearing in the matter is scheduled on August 10.

There are three important points that the public panic over this rather limited and technical legal story miss, or misunderstand:

1) Nothing of any new significance to anyone but Defense Distributed really happened. That company, founded by Cody Wilson, a provocateur who designed the first functional 3D-printed plastic gun, is now out from under an expensive multi-year lawsuit against the federal government. The suit challenged the feds for using arcane International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR) rules to restrain his group from distributing potentially gun-making software. The organization can now pursue its business/cause of distributing hardware and software for home gun use freely.

Supposedly. Except now a bunch of authorities below the federal level are trying to stymie them via threat and lawsuit now that the federal government has stopped, and this afternoon the multi-state lawsuit did result in a temporary restraining order.

So should Defense Distributed eventually succeed in getting through this new legal roadblock, would it represent a huge, alarming change in law and culture? Has the crazy Trump administration decided to make home gun manufacturing legal, at great potential peril to the republic?

Making guns at home for personal use has always been legal. (Reason provided a step-by-step guide on doing so in our July issue!) And since 1988, it has been and remains illegal to make or sell a gun that "is not...detectable...by walk-through metal detectors" or "when subjected to inspection by the types of x-ray machines commonly used at airports, does not generate an image that accurately depicts the shape of the component."

The federal government's decision to settle, based at least in part on arcane shifts in regulatory authority between the State Department and the Commerce Department, does not change that. And there was never, as far as I know, any attempt to enforce ITAR regulations on anyone else who might be distributing the same or similar files, which were already widely available on the internet. (There is, and should be, a difference between actually violating the law and spreading information that could allow someone to violate the law.)

So anyone and everyone else was in practical terms free to distribute and use software that instructed devices such as computerized CNC mills and 3D printers to make things that could function as guns. Many people were already doing exactly that. Most of the hobbyist action is now in CNC mills, used to make metal guns. The feared plastic ones? Well, as Wilson described his original "Liberator" to me in 2013, "to reduce it to materiality, it still is a crude plastic gun that few people can make."

2) This is not about the Trump administration being wild pro-gun ideologues. Despite speculations spread, for example, in a Wired story on the settlement, the decision was a specific technical decision based on ITAR, not about feeding or appeasing some imagined Second Amendment fanaticism on Trump's part.

As one of Defense Distributed's lawyers, Alan Gura, told me, the Trump administration continues to fight against gun rights in all the same cases the Obama administration did, and the most likely reason for settlement was that the government "realized that not a single 5th Circuit judge offered that they were likely to succeed on the merits. To the contrary, the centerpiece of their victory was that they could somehow avoid the merits. When they could avoid the merits no longer, suddenly the national security threat faded away."

Donald Trump tweeted today that he is "looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public. Already spoke to NRA, doesn't seem to make much sense!" The settlement has nothing to do with any pro-gun agenda on the part of Trump.

For their part, the NRA, which has mostly avoided any comment on the 3D printed weapon matter, issued a press release this afternoon in which their executive director Chris Cox reiterates that at least when it comes to plastic homemade guns, they are and have always been against them: "Regardless of what a person may be able to publish on the Internet, undetectable plastic guns have been illegal for 30 years. Federal law passed in 1988, crafted with the NRA's support, makes it unlawful to manufacture, import, sell, ship, deliver, possess, transfer, or receive an undetectable firearm."

3) The case is as much about free speech as it is about gun rights. Since the case ended via settlement and not a decision, no explicit precedent has been set that these specific computer instructional files count as expression protected under the First Amendment. But that was the core of the legal argument Defense Distributed was making, and is still having to make against all the new authorities trying to restrain it.

As the company's legal team wrote in the lawsuit, "the use of the ITAR to impose a prior restraint on publications of privately generated unclassified information into the public domain violated the First Amendment of United States Constitution," a point with which they believed previous Department of Justice doctrine agreed.

In a court filing responding to the multi-state lawsuit to stop Wilson's organization from distributing the files, one of Defense Distributed's lawyers, Josh Blackman, said that such attempts to legally prohibit Americans ability to "access, discuss, use, reproduce, or otherwise benefit from the technical data" are not constitutionally permitted, as such acts are "expressly protected by the First Amendment. In Sorrell v. IMS Health Inc. [2011], the [Supreme] Court recognized 'that the creation and dissemination of information are speech within the meaning of the First Amendment.'"

As Blackman rightly stated, this latest state lawsuit to limit Defense Distributed's activities constitutes a

demand [of] a prior restraint of constitutionally protected speech that is already in the public domain. We know that "[a]ny system of prior restraints of expression comes to this Court bearing a heavy presumption against its constitutional validity." That presumption of liberty is even heavier where, as here, the speech is already available on the internet, and has been available for years....Yet, nine Attorneys General, who swore an oath to the Constitution, failed to even mention the First Amendment in their emergency pleadings. Such a careless disregard for the Bill of Rights fails to meet the "heavy burden" needed to justify a prior restraint.

By eliding what's really at stake here—more a matter of free expression than any meaningful expansion of the already existing legal ability to make a gun at home—the states suing, and alas too much of the media, are ginning up unwarranted fear to expand the government's power to restrict speech, and alas those states have had at least a temporary success for now.

Just this hour, Blackman tweets that in one more of the relentless barrage of actions against them, an attempt in New Jersey state court to get a temporary restraining order against Defense Distributed failed today, though for now Wilson says he's blocking I.P. addresses from New Jersey and Pennsylvania pending final resolution of the various legal actions.

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  • Curt||

    #4... even if the gun isn't detectable in xray machines, the ammo is.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

  • Mark22||

    Well, we'll just have to switch to spent uranium then. Probably better for shooting birds anyway.

  • Agammamon||

    Today.

    There are ways to make lethal projectiles with lower mass materials. Its harder but still doable.

  • Rich||

    IIRC, some murder mystery featured ice projectiles.

  • Morbo||

    Not sure I'd call Most Wanted a "murder mystery"....

  • Longtobefree||

    Referenced in '3 days of the Condor'

  • TangoDelta||

    Ice bullets don't work, they are very low mass and melt before leaving the muzzle. What's needed is something that is high density, handles high temperatures and pressures, is water soluble, and, ideally, frangible.

  • ThomasD||

    True, but if the mass of the jacket is greater than that of the core that is also a Federal no no.

  • Naaman Brown||

    Cross bow bolts (arrows)?

  • BlueStarDragon||

    What about rocks, We made arrows out of them for few thousands of years.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    What a minute. Is it possible that the NRA is actually a gun manufacture's lobby using member dollars?

  • Morbo||

    More like they've embraced the "don't scare the squares" mentality a little bit too closely.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    It's possible, it's just not true.

    What Morbo says. They're just chicken.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Grandstanding AG's are gonna grandstand.

  • SQRLSY One||

    Making your own guns is now legal, it seems...

    WHEN will it be legal to make yourself a cheap plastic flute to blow on?!??!

    Until it becomes legalized... DON"T DO IT!!!!

    http://www.churchofsqrls.com/DONT_DO_THIS/

  • Yellow Tony||

    I didn't have anal sex in my state until it was legalized. It was a dark, horrible time where a man had to stuff his Johnson into another person's armpit and then dip his dick into the recently used toilet. But hey, at least I have an armpit fetish now: the desire to sexually frolic in the fascinatingly smelly crevices of the human body.

  • TGoodchild||

    In what state do you live? Asking for a friend.

  • Giant Realistic Flying Tiger||

    He's a little weird. He's a little wild. He's not from round here. He's from another dimension.

  • Hamster of Doom||

    Good times.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Yes, but have you ever fucked a fish person?

  • MarkLastname||

    Does Kanye West count?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    He now likes fish sticks

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Gay sex is gross.

    Its 100% okay to do what you want, but gross.

  • Giant Realistic Flying Tiger||

    This from a dude who fantasizes about licking Obama's balls while Hillary pounds him from behind with a 12-inch periwinkle strap-on while Donald watches in the corner of the room, muttering about how "excellent" and "fantastic" the whole scene is.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    I think it's time for some lovecon89 fanfic.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Hillary has a big dick and you know this...man.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Obamas balls have WAY too much bridge butter, from Tigers bridge, to get them out of Baculums mouth.

  • Mark22||

    Making your own guns is now legal, it seems...

    Same as it always has been in the US.

    Believe it or not, gun making used to be a hobby. Teenagers used to do it and get into metal working and engineering that way.

  • LiborCon||

    It's not "3D Printed Guns", you can't print a gun. Defense Distributed sells a CNC ($1500) and 80% lower receivers and pistol frames. The have downloadable files for the CNC to complete the unfinished parts.

    You don't need the CNC or the files to complete an 80% lower receiver or pistol frame. All you need is a drill, a file and some basic machining skills.

    80% parts are partially completed but not to the point that they can be used, without modification, to make a functional firearm. They're perfectly legal to purchase and possess without an FFL or background check.

    Building a functional firearm with an 80% is also perfectly legal provided you're not prohibited from owning firearms.

  • perlchpr||

    It's not "3D Printed Guns", you can't print a gun.

    This is just factually incorrect. The protagonist of this story, Cody Wilson, made the very first completely plastic 3D printed firearm in 2013. He named it the "Liberator".

    They also sell a CNC machine tool for the purpose of turning 80% lowers into finished receivers.

  • LiborCon||

    The Liberator is basically a zip gun that could blow up in your hand. It's an unsafe gimmick.

    You can't print a real gun. Barrels, slides, rails, firing pins, extractors, ejectors and springs are all metal and can't be printed.

    And; I said that they sell a CNC to mill 80% receivers, did you even read my comment? Or are you trying to impress with your contrarian dipshittery?

  • Vitae Drinker||

    You are wrong. In many ways. I guess you've never heard of laser sintering?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Metal 'guns' can be lathed and machined on a non-industrial level by people with basic mechanical skills.

    Americans manufacturing untracked weapons scares politicians and it should. As the Constitution intended.

  • Mark22||

    Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer wouldn't recognize a lathe it if grabbed them by the hair and slowly pulled them in while everybody screamed "stop the lathe". In their estrogen-induced brain fog, they can't conceive that normal men are mechanically inclined and actually make stuff. They probably view the ability to make stuff to be white male privilege and a major contributor to the power of the patriarchy (and to be fair, they are right!).

  • loveconstitution1789||

    All they know is that either you're with the Lefties or you are the enemy.

  • Your Mom||

    "Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer wouldn't recognize a lathe it if grabbed them by the hair and slowly pulled them in while everybody screamed 'stop the lathe'. "

    This made me laugh REALLY hard. :D

  • Brett Bellmore||

    Lathes don't slowly pull you in, that's drill presses. Lathe accidents are typically high speed affairs, over in an instant.

  • BadLib||

    I certainly would not be screaming to "stop the lathe". If someone asked me how to stop it, due to stress of the moment, I might inadvertently tell them how to increase the speed. An unfortunate senior moment.

  • gaoxiaen||

    The original Liberator and a selection of handmade guns.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HNaB7l2GQk

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CjndIiZyJo

  • Tionico||

    about time the rotten politicians have something to restore a righteous fear of the PEOPLE whom they serve...... for too long they've not known their rightful place. Sort of like King George Three's minions roaming about the countryside seeking anyone they ight detain some thin, or even no, pretext, to "search" and seize what they would, the citizens having no recourse. Then came Georgie Boy's order to General Thomas W Gage to begin the process of disarming the subjects...... who for some strage reason refused to be rendered defenseless.

    We know who won that time. The rotten judges and other skittish control freaks haven't yet figured out who WILL win this time.

  • Mark22||

    The Liberator is basically a zip gun that could blow up in your hand. It's an unsafe gimmick.

    The Liberator is a plastic version of the FP-45. And any gun can blow up in your hand. Given the rapid advance of 3D printing, this is less and less likely. People routinely print in carbon-fiber reinforced Nylon now.

    You can't print a real gun. Barrels, slides, rails, firing pins, extractors, ejectors and springs are all metal and can't be printed.

    When people say it's "3d printed", that still allows for common hardware.

    Of course, all of this is a tempest in a teapot, given that you need little more than a cheap desktop lathe to make an all-metal gun anyway.

  • Tionico||

    you mean like the one Harbour Fright purvey for about four hundred fifty? Cant do a very long barrel, but hey, four inches is enough to make a difference most times and places.

  • Yellow Tony||

    Remember how you shouldn't download a car?
    Oh how the times have changed.

  • ||

    The FF foresaw a day when guns could be downloaded by anyone and carefully worded The Constitution so that Congress would have the power to protect us from such wickedness.

  • Yellow Tony||

    Such prescience further corroborates my hypothesis that the Founding Fathers were actually time-traveling other me's.
    America was founded by Tonies.

  • SQRLSY One||

    I would trade my Tony for a Pony, if the Founding Fathers would only allow it...

    Isn't it my RIGHT to have a Pony?!?! Now pony up, you slouching taxpayers!!!

  • Earth Skeptic||

    Hey, I had a Tony the Pony when I was a little kid. Still probably in my dad's basement.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    You should probably check on him.

  • Mark22||

    Isn't it my RIGHT to have a Pony

    Not a pony, a vagina. I think straight men should make that kind of argument: "Hey, Alexandria, you're a democratic socialist, aren't you? You have a vagina and I don't, and that kind of massive inequality is just not fair. I'm afraid you'll have to share it!"

  • Pudgeboy||

    Why did they agree to voluntarily block IP addresses in PA and NJ if they defeated the injunction?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    They're not total scofflaws!

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Bad legal advice. They thought by avoidin certain states they could avoid certain aggressive AG lawsuits.

    The smartest thing DD did was release the info days before the media was saying the info would be released.

  • piperTom||

    Perhaps they knew it made no difference. Personally, I can choose from dozens of out-of-state or out-of-country sites that my VPN supports. My IP address is not exposed and my ISP doesn't know what I'm doing.

  • Freddy the Jerk||

    Cue the incoherent, boldface, ass-jamming, "shall not be infringed means unless the arm in question is scary-looking" Hinfection...

  • Freddy the Jerk||

    OK, reading the comments so far, I have to ask: Who on this thread is *not* drunk?

  • Happy Chandler||

    I'm sure at least a third of them are on ecstasy. But I guess that doesn't preclude them from being drunk.

    And one is a drunk squirrel. He'

  • perlchpr||

    I'm not yet.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

  • Pudgeboy||

    Absolutely... thanks for the link.

  • Rich||

    The man is a National Treasure.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Austin is already full of liberals. Is he making the claim that California liberals are somehow worse than Texas liberals?

  • Juice||

    Aren't they?

  • Juice||

    His name is Iowahawk and he lives in Texas?

  • Whorton||

    The amount of misinformation on this issue is mind boggling. I just witnessed a Washington state official standing in front of a picture of two assembled AR-15's and talking about GHOST GUNS. . . Apparently totally unaware or uncaring that the plastic gun in question is neither an AR-15 or a "Ghost gun." Much less cognizant are they of the idea that a plastic "gun" will explode if you fire real ammunition out of it.

    Apparently, they have NO idea what a zip gun is, or how easy it is to manufacture one.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    I fear they're fully cognizant-- they just don't care. Which is a polite way of saying they're fucking evil and peddling fake news to win political points.

  • NashTiger||

  • Tionico||

    I watched a senator from Seattle, head of the Judiciary Committee, as he presided over a hearing on a ban of the scary black and ugly guns he thinks no one else should have. He blatantly lied from his Chairman's seat, wilfully misrepresenting some "facts" about the AR type rifles he KNEW were false. It was voted down in committee.. but it being HIS bill, the dirtbag brought it to the Senate Floor for a vote, a priviledge the chair had, as the session closed. Adam Kline is his name.

    Seems Washington State have a bumper crop of lying dirtbag denizens of the Marble Zoo on the hill above downtown Olympia.....

  • Jakee308||

    The gun files that DD is going to allow download (I believe) are for making the frame work and other non wearing parts out of plastic using either a cnc on a 80% lower OR creating using 3d printer.

    All those also have metal parts. (barrel, springs, Possibly trigger and the firing pin etc.) So they will be detectable and they're just making it easier to design your own firearm using parts from another firearm. (making a futuristic stock and other such embellishments.

    You can build a firearm in your home as long as you are not a restricted person (criminal, nut case, etc) and can own firearms. All your doing is eliminating the record of your firearm being accessible by the Government. If you sell the firearm, it has to have a serial number and you have to get one from the Federal Government before you can so as to be able to pass the nics.

    You can also build other illegal firearms like a sub machine gun using common tools and materials. Books are out and still published to do that sort of thing if you want.

    This is why this whole thing is so funny and shows the ignorance (once more) of Democrats and Gun Grabbers. You'll note that all of the states filing suit are Democrat AG's.

    This is actually a 1st amendment issue and not a 2nd amendment issue. And you'll note who's in the forefront with the banning and the hysteria not having the sense to do any sort of research or perhaps they have and this is all kabuki for their base voters.

  • Mark22||

    Democrats are dominated by women and lawyers. The idea that regular men can make physical stuff that works is incomprehensible to them. They apparently think all physical products are made by little Chinese elves using ancient Chinese magic, which explains most of their political positions: (1) free trade with China or our economy collapses, (2) if you outlaw something, it will disappear from the world, (3) men are like women with bad social skills and a rape fetish, which is why women should be in charge.

  • TxJack 112||

    You are 100% correct.

  • Rich||

    (There is, and should be, a difference between actually violating the law and spreading information that could allow someone to violate the law.)

    "We must close the INFORMATION LOOPHOLE!!"

  • BruceMajors||

    Breaking: 9th Circuit just ruled that developers cannot release 3-D printer instructions for making DIY plastic straws.

  • Jerry B.||

    Any Maker with a CNC machine, an AR-15 lower receiver to copy the dimensions from, and a chunk of the proper aluminum could whip out an AR lower without much trouble. The whole "OMG, folks can print plastic guns now!!!" thing is just clickbait for Liberals clueless about guns and votebait for the Chuck Schumers of the world.

  • Top 15||

    LOL - "Wired" must now be banned from the internet forever for publishing fake news!

  • loveconstitution1789||

    2nd Amendment: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    With that being said, any ban on Arms that "cannot be detected by x-ray machines" is unconstitutional.

    Any ban on Arms for not having serial numbers is unconstitutional.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    But left ^ monkeywrench = persimmon!!!!

    /Hihn

    Plus the first amendment protections that the plans are protected by.

  • ||

    The Washington State Constitution clearly stands on the side of Defense Distributed in this, so how on Earth can the Attorney General of the State of Washington be part of this lawsuit?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Lefties in these states have never read their own state constitutions let alone the US Constitution.

  • Tionico||

    Robert Ferguson is one of the crookedest and nastiest politicians ever to tread the soil inside this country. HE does what he wants to do, protocol and rules be hanged. Some of the cases he's pressed never should have seen the light of day.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    "1) Nothing of any new significance to anyone but Defense Distributed really happened. "

    But something of new significance to a lot of people would have happened if DD had lost. The feds weren't just going to regulate CAD files on this basis. Basically they were going after ALL online gun related info. Maintenance manuals, gunsmithing info, you name it. They wanted to make the internet a 2nd amendment free zone.

    Defense Distributed's victory stopped that attempt in its tracks.

  • Drake_Burrwood||

    Absolutely.
    +++XB=3~

  • Brett Bellmore||

    "2) This is not about the Trump administration being wild pro-gun ideologues."

    To your average wild anti-gun ideologue, anybody who's not willing to toss law and Constitution aside to attack gun ownership qualifies as a "wild pro-gun ideologue".

  • Drake_Burrwood||

    If you want your plastic firearm to last it really needs a metallic barrel and firing pin that kills the invisible gun arguments.

  • Brett Bellmore||

    The original "Liberator" wasn't meant to last, either. It was just meant to give you one shot to kill an SS agent, and take HIS gun.

    The choice of name for his printable plastic gun wasn't an accident.

  • Tionico||

    I've read the story behind the priginal LIberator.. pretty fascinating. Brilliant idea, too. Thousands were to be dropped by air as Allied planes flew over France and Germany on their regular sorties... they came in smallish boxes, each with a small parachute to slow its fall, and some cartoon instructions on a folded up paper inside the carton. I think for or five rounds were included. They were no "real handgun", clunk looking, and awkward enough to not instantly be recognisable as a handgun. But they were durable enogough to be capable of firing at least tnose five rounds. Hopefully the user would be able tomake a sufficient difference before he ran out of the original kit's ammunition supply.
    The idea came too late in the war, though, and very few were ever "dustributed".

  • TxJack 112||

    you also have to use some type of plastic that is resistant to distortion from heat. Polymers are designed to resist distortion from heat but the type of ABS used by most 3D printers will begin to melt at about 500 degrees. A fired round generates temps up to 1800 degrees.

  • Longtobefree||

    The United States District Court for the Western District of Washington (in case citations, W.D. Wash.) is the Federal district court whose jurisdiction comprises the following counties of the state of Washington: Clallam, Clark, Cowlitz, Grays Harbor, Island, Jefferson, King, Kitsap, Lewis, Mason, Pacific, Pierce, San Juan, Skagit, Skamania, Snohomish, Thurston, Wahkiakum, and Whatcom. Its courthouse, built in 2004, is located at 7th and Stewart in Seattle.

    So exactly how does this idiot judge claim authority to issue a nationwide injunction?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Its the latest thing. District courts now have national jurisdiction because Lefties do not control The House, The Senate, nor the Presidency.

    Lefties must have forgotten Red states trying to get injunctions against Obama's administration for failing to enforce immigration law and ObamaCare.

    For some reason the District courts in those cases did not have national jurisdiction and the media loved pointing out how few other district courts issued similar decision. These District Courts were countered by the District Courts that disagreed with the Red states.

  • Tionico||

    because that stinking "judge" is a perjuror who refuses to abide by the US Constituton about which he sore an oath he would uphold and defend as he performs his duties as a judge.
    SOMEBODY needs to slam his sorry backside down into his big leather chair that WE bought for his sorry backside, open up a copy of the US Consittution, turn to Article Three, Section Two, Paragraph Two, and MAKE HIM READ IT. Then back him up against a wall and ask him WHY he is taking up cases that he just finished reading he cannot take up...... because he LACKS the authority to do to.

    Then serve him with charging papers for his perjury.

  • frankania||

    Back in 1954, when I was 14 years old, I built a pistol, using a piece of auto-radio antenna, a toy cap pistol, and several rubber bands. It shot 22 calibre bullets real fine......

  • Longtobefree||

    But they only want to ban 3-d guns, not 2-d guns.

  • Tionico||

    unless you are a bored schoolboy, in which case they can ban three D "guns" that look like mountains chewed out of poptarts, two D guns that look like cartoons, and one D guns that are merely mentioned out in the sandbox.

  • Tionico||

    here is a MAJOR issue in th eight state case and its bogus "order":

    And this afternoon, in that last suit filed in U.S. District Court for the Western District of Washington by eight states and the District of Columbia,

    That stupid judge needs to sit his sorry backside down in his huge black leather poohbah chair and READ that Constitution he swore he'd uphold and defend. The specific part he NEEDS to read is Article Three, Section Two, Paragraph Two, where it plainly states the following:

    in ALL cases affecting Ambassadors, other public ministuers and consuls, AND those in which a State shall be a party th Supreme COurt shall oave ORIGINAL JURISDICTION.

    That means no two bit lower federal court can take up this matter.

    SOMEBODY needs to hold this judge's feet to the fire on this one. He overstepped his authority even taking up this case... eight states and the Distirict of Columbia.

    That order and injunction needs to be ignored, and the corrupt judge told WHY no one will h\eed his order. And Mr. Wilson needs to ignore it as well. That judge needs to have felony perjury charges laid against him for failing to uphold his sworn oath of office. Disbar and debench need to follow.

  • TxJack 112||

    Sorry, but those of us who handload ammo understand how incredibly pointless this debate actually is and why. First, a true plastic gun will disintegrate rapidly due to the heat and pressures created firing a round. The plans being distributed by Defense are for a single shot pistol that is large and likely not accurate since even if you could rifle the "barrel", the moment the round it fired it would melt. If the heat does not cause the weapon to fail, the pressures will likely make it explode. A low power 9mm round with a 115gn bullet generates a pressure of 23,100 PSI according to Hodgden's reloading data. The barrel is short and very think to keep it from exploding although I would never accept the risk because to do so is just stupid. Just because something is possible, does not mean it is feasible. Since you can finish an 80% lower using simple tools and a jig for about 1/3 the cost of 3D printer and in the end have a tested and safe weapon, why would you risk life and limb on something that can only be shot once?

  • Brett Bellmore||

    Assuming you print it out of nylon, with proper settings, it isn't going to explode. The barrel will bulge enough that most of the gas escapes past the bullet, lowering the pressure, so the muzzle velocity will be kind of sad, but it won't explode.

  • Hangionut||

    Billy Carter was right....

  • Marilyn6||

  • Luna Sweet||

  • kcuch||

    Nothing of any new significance to anyone but Defense Distributed really happened. That company, founded by Cody Wilson, a provocateur who designed the first functional 3D-printed plastic gun...

    An innovator and entrepreneur, thank you very much.

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