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Feminist Philosopher Explains Jordan Peterson's Biggest Mistake, Makes a Bigger One

Mass shooters are not disproportionately white, despite what you may have heard.

Jordan PetersonJason Franson/ZUMA Press/NewscomVox recently invited Kate Manne, a professor of philosophy at Cornell University, to critique Jordan Peterson, the Canadian psychologist whose meteoric rise to fame and unflinching criticism of political correctness has launched a thousand takes, at Reason and elsewhere.

Manne raises some interesting points. Unfortunately, she also commits a glaring error—one that is more obviously wrong than anything she identifies in Peterson's work. Asked to identify the biggest mistake ("moral, philosophical, or otherwise") in Peterson's bestselling book 12 Rules for Life, Manne points to Peterson's analysis of "mass shootings in general, and school shootings in particular," which he says are caused by a kind of social angst, or "crisis of being."

I don't find Peterson's explanation particularly convincing, though existential angst is a broad enough diagnosis that I suppose it could be correct in some fairly useless and non-falsifiable sense. But while Peterson might be wrong about what causes mass shootings, Manne is certainly mistaken about who commits them. By blaming this angst, she writes, Peterson "takes on a huge burden of explaining why white women, people of color, nonbinary folks, and so on, almost never act on our existential angst and despair in this way. Because, as you know, the vast majority of school shooters have been white men."

Yes, most mass killers are white—but white people represent three-quarters of the U.S. population. If anything, mass killers are disproportionately non-white. According to Slate's Daniel Engber, who parsed Mother Jones's mass shooting database earlier this year, about 56 percent of mass shooters are white:

Judging by those newer numbers, and the most current census estimate that 76.9 percent of Americans are white, the whites-are-overrepresented-among-mass-shooters meme appears even less accurate. Perpetrators that Mother Jones classifies as Asian make up 7.4 percent of the data set, versus an estimated 5.7 percent of the population, while those MoJo identifies as black represent 17.0 percent of the mass shooters in the database versus an estimated 13.3 percent of the population. According to this data set, then, Asians and black Americans are overrepresented among mass shooters by about the same proportion (a bit more than one-fourth) that whites are underrepresented.

That database covers mass shootings in general (and is flawed in that it probably undercounts mass shootings that happened further back in time). It might be more accurate to say that Columbine-style mass shootings specifically committed in schools are disproportionately perpetrated by white people, but there have only been 8 of those kinds of attacks—shootings in which at least four people were shot to death in a school—since 1996. Schools are actually so safe that it's pretty useless to make statistically sound racial generalizations about the kinds of mass murders committed there.

Manne claimed that "white women, people of color, nonbinary folks, and so on, almost never act on our existential despair this way." (If she had stopped at women, she would have been on much firmer ground.) But the truth is that all sorts of people—usually men, yes—of all different colors and creeds are capable of horrible things. Whether or not curing our existential dread is the solution, there is no evidence that whiteness itself is the problem, despite what so many pundits would have us believe.

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  • brec||

    Manne raises some interesting points. Unfortunately, she also commits a glaring error ...

    "Someone said something wrong on the internet."

    We'll read about the interesting points on some other blog, perhaps.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    You're in luck! The words 'to critique' contain a link to the Vox article in which those points are made. The downside is that there is nobody providing commentary on what you're supposed to think of it.

  • ThomasD||

    I stand behind no one in my willingness to critique Rico, but in this case must agree. He did provide a link.

  • Jerryskids||

    Assuming you don't have a monochrome monitor, that would be the orange words up there in the otherwise black text. If you click on those, they're what the internet-savvy call "links", you'll find yourself magically transported via the intertubes to a new website that has the relevant information on it.

  • Just Say'n||

    You can't expect him to actually engage the points. Jordan Peterson's critics are notorious for putting feels before reals.

  • BambiB||

    Don't much care about school shootings. Since Columbine, there have been less than 12 students a year killed in school shootings. Contrast that with students killed in school bus accidents (138 each year) or the number of kids who drown in 5 gallon buckets (27), and the number of students killed in school shootings is quickly scaled to insignificance.

  • HeteroPatriarch||

    There weren't really any interesting points. Rico was trying to be polite.

  • khm001||

    "white women, people of color, nonbinary folks, and so on, almost never act on our existential angst and despair in this way"

    This isn't just wrong. It's a bald faced lies. That's the point. This lying piece of shot tried to paint whites as exceptionally bad, but statistics make evident whites are exceptionally good.

  • Greg Wasanasan||

    How is it a lie? A mass shooting is distinct in that it isn't personal. It's vague and clearly mentally unreasonable. People of color, for instance, engage in violence but almost universally are those acts, direct, personal, and rational albeit immoral. It makes "sense" to kill a personal enemy or someone you have a direct issue with. It doesn't make much sense to go into a random building and kill random people you've never met with no real goal in mind.

  • AdamJ||

    Laurie Dann came into a school in my town and shot a kid. She was a woman.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Plus she wore that weird purple hair in The Last Jedi. What was up with that?

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    Space people all have weird colored hair.

  • H. Farnham||

    KMW - Libertarian Astronaut

  • Jerryskids||

    Manne claimed that "white women, people of color, nonbinary folks, and so on, almost never act on our existential despair this way."

    And yet if I were to claim that white men are more decisive and more apt to take direct action to address their problems rather than just sitting around talking about their feelings, I'd be denounced for making a racist and sexist comment implying that there are differences between races and sexes.

  • Old Mexican - Mostly Harmless||

    You should realize that only the left gets to define reality and not some right-wing nutjob (or at least defined as a right-wing nutjob by the left... See how that works? Huh?)

  • Zeb||

    The claim is true. But she leaves out the fact that white men also never act on their existential despair this way. Almost no one does that.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    It's difficult to deal with the fact that mass murders are rare occurrences. They are upsetting, as are all murders, but the rareness of them makes them hard to treat in any specific way.

    Also, if anyone knows of a database of mass murders I would appreciate it. Every time I try to find it I only get mass shootings. Google even attempted to correct me, "Did you mean 'Database of mass shootings'?"

    I want all mass murders, regardless of the weapon used.

  • Longtobefree||

    Sorry, only mass shootings fit the socialist narrative, and so Google will not let you look at mass murders, because you might think something favorable to the second amendment to the United States constitution.

    Net neutrality and all that rot.

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    A major reason the shootings (murders) get such attention is precisely that they are rare occurrences. If they happened every day (or week, month, etc) they would just become part of the social landscape

  • D-Pizzle||

    You should read the actual interview. After this passage, she goes on to critique Peterson as sexist because, in his book, he acknowledges real differences between men and women. Leftists sure are deficient in the self-awareness department.

  • lap83||

    "white women, people of color, nonbinary folks, and so on, almost never act on our existential despair this way."

    So,according to your research, the people who just happen to be in your clique would never do anything that undermines your political agenda. What an amazing coincidence!

  • Ken Shultz||

    "By blaming this angst, she writes, Peterson "takes on a huge burden of explaining why white women, people of color, nonbinary folks, and so on, almost never act on our existential angst and despair in this way. Because, as you know, the vast majority of school shooters have been white men."

    Why is the race or sex of mass shooters of any importance? If it's white men or black women, what difference does that make?

    Whether they're actually white men or something else is secondary to the point that the race and sex of the shooters is of no apparent importance whatsoever. What are they planning to do differently--depending on the race and sex of mass shooters--anything?

    What's the point of this, to name-drop Jordan Peterson?

  • Quo Usque Tandem||

    If it can be shown that the majority of mass shooters are white males, that offers all sort of opportunities to blame patriarchy and white supremacy. If it can be shown that a disproportionate number are female and or person of color, that is grist for accusing the white patriarchy of placing such burdens on them through racism and sexism that it offers all sorts of opportunities for blame. Win win, capiche?

  • Ken Shultz||

    What are they planning to do about patriarchy and white supremacy?

    Start another drum circle?

    Why does this matter?

  • Quo Usque Tandem||

    Good question: at this point in time it seems to be the foundation of social justice warfare and liberal arts courses in race and gender equity. If drum circle = yelling, screaming, internet outrage and op eds we're already there. And of course a number of Democratic candidates for office are playing it for what it's worth. I see it as a cancer in its early stages. Concerning but not deadly, just yet.

  • BYODB||

    Replace 'white men' with 'Jews' in most of those articles and I think the trajectory becomes a little more clear.

  • VOTE MILES||

    Replace 'white men' with 'Jews' in most of those articles and I think the trajectory becomes a little more clear.

    This point should be raised every time a leftist speaks. That mainstream opinion not only tolerates but endlessly promotes such vile and damaging bigotry is scandalous.

  • BYODB||

    Agreed. If this shit was written about any other collective group whomever said it would likely be taken off the air due to public outrage but 'white men' are the new group that would be ethnically cleansed if, well, it wasn't the majority.

    This is actually how they excuse themselves, too, in that it's not bigoted if you're attacking the majority of society which is...fucking insane if you ask me.

    If anything, it's amazing how restrained the populace of America is to tolerate this kind of rabid insanity. It just goes to show how seriously the nation takes the 1st Amendment, and I can at the very least appreciate that.

  • Ariki||

    You guys do know that the left have literally redefined racism to be Skin colour + power right?

    Meaning that a black person cannot be considered racist towards a white person because the
    white person has historical power.

    To get around the obvious cluster fuck this results in they have invented a new term called "colourist" which is applied when a black person makes derogatory statements towards a brown person etc.

    These people are seeking to change the meaning of words. Never let them do so. Always point out their hypocrisy.

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    It's truly Orwellian: Whoever controls the language controls the processes of thought and dialogue. This is why we must engage the left even on this seemingly innocuous level

  • Anna Demo||

    And whomever controls the schools, controls the language. Sending your kids to public schools is parental malpractice (h/t Instapundit). The only ways to survive the Left's long march are: (1) homeschool or send your kid to private/parochial school and (2) run for and take back the school boards and committees and (3) become public school teachers and infiltrate the system like they did in the 70's, to reverse the insanity and evil that thrives in public schools today.

  • VOTE MILES||

    Whoever controls the language controls the processes of thought and dialogue. This is why we must engage the left even on this seemingly innocuous level.

    This was Jordon Peterson's point in the pronoun debate.

  • Iheartskeet||

    I believe what they'd like to do with society as a whole, is what they already are doing on college campuses. This may be implausible, or may not be (witness the HR dept of most major corporations), but that is the goal.

  • Greg Wasanasan||

    It matters because if we don't know the source of a problem we can't stop it. Now we know that for whatever reason, white men are losing it and becoming vaguely violent. Seems like a mental health issue to me.

  • Cynical Asshole||

    If it can be shown that the majority of mass shooters are white males, that offers all sort of opportunities to blame patriarchy and white supremacy.

    It also gives them a good excuse to line all the white male cis-gendered hetero shitlords up against a wall when the revolution comes.

  • Marcus Aurelius||

    In recent years, the right liked to demonize terrorism from the middle East as means to really support for immigration restrictions.

    By pointing out that the majority of school shooters are white, it's supposed to undermine any sentiment that middle easterners are any more evil than evil white men.

  • Harvard||

    You've got to be joking. Just how much terrorism perpetrated by people from the Middle East (Muslims in particular) should any country be comfortable inflicting on their citizens before their immigration policy might stand a bit of review?

  • Naaman Brown||

    From 1998 to 2018 there were 66 mass murders (defined as four or more dead) by shooting in the U.S. involving 69 perpetrators.
    Six of the 69 mass killers were identified as Muslim.
    Muslims are less than 1% of the U.S. population.
    Muslims account for 8.7% of U.S. mass shooting killers.

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    "66 mass murders … by shooting in the U.S. …." OK, so 9/11 doesn't count. I guess this all goes to show the truth of Mark Twain's aphorism: there are lies, damn lies and statistics. It all depends on (a) what you are counting, and (b) who is doing the counting, yeah?

  • Tom Bombadil||

    "I don't find Peterson's explanation particularly convincing, though existential angst is a broad enough diagnosis that I suppose it could be correct in some fairly useless and non-falsifiable sense. But while Peterson might be wrong about what causes mass shootings"

    Get a load of fruit sushi, the clinical psychiatrist, shooting down theories and providing no alternate explanations.

  • Zeb||

    Well, I think that Peterson's explanation also fails to explain why so few people act out in that way. Lots of people have existential angst and hate the world. So it seems to me that there must be other causes.
    But I think his explanation does at least provide a plausible explanation of the state of mind of killers like the Columbine kids.

  • Cynical Asshole||

    Lots of people have existential angst and hate the world.

    Hell, I could be described that way. And I'm a white male cis-hetero shitlord. And I play a lot of violent video games and like violent action flicks. It's a miracle I haven't gone a shooting spree already.

  • ThomasD||

    We know.

  • ||

    Well, I think that Peterson's explanation also fails to explain why so few people act out in that way. Lots of people have existential angst and hate the world. So it seems to me that there must be other causes.

    I haven't read everything Peterson's said about the subject. What I have heard and read from the man strongly suggests that he's being falsely portrayed as painting with a broad or definitively authoritative brush here. There is likely a lot of caching his opinion in the asserted facts of others and voiding it on any given shooter. Part of his notoriety is that he's not such a clod as to say, "Here's why mass shooters do what they do."

    "Inasmuch as there is a phenomenon of mass shooting and we think it can be explained, here's what I think..."

  • Zeb||

    I think you are right. There is generally a lot of depth behind anything he says in public. I'm sure he has an answer to my criticism.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    This I will agree with. I don't know what Peterson said, so I should hold my opinion until I know better.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    It's a platitude. Pointing out that an answer isn't useful isn't invalid just because you don't supply an alternative. Something can be wrong without anyone knowing what is right.

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    Philosophy is where people go who are not fit for any actual field of practical study. When finished with their degree they venture forth to teach other people not fit for any actual field of practical study, and write articles and books proving their fitness for such work.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    white women, people of color, nonbinary folks, and so on, almost never act on our existential angst and despair in this way

    The truth is, we ought to be celebrating the fact that these people act out by damaging themselves instead of others. That's the real win here.

  • bevis the lumberjack||

    She's narrowed it down to a very specific type of crime in order to make her point, and still failed. Statistically, people of color (specifically blacks and Hispanics) commit a disproportionate amount of violent crime. Are those folks acting out on their existential angst and despair, or are they just jacking cars and robbing convenience stores?

    The people they kill while engaged in those activities are no less dead than the victims of school shooters.

  • ||

    Are those folks acting out on their existential angst and despair?

    In her worldview, absolutely. These folks are rationally responding to the centuries of existential angst and despair experienced by their forefathers and foremothers; lashing back at a world that is so rigged against them their free will and self-determination were nullified even before they were even out of the womb.

  • Greg Wasanasan||

    Yes but there's a predictability to crimes with blacks and hispanics. You can simply stay out of bad neighborhoods and the chances are HUGE that you won't ever encounter that issue. A white guy with no rhyme or reason, no connection to his victims.. that's something that is NATURALLY and RATIONALLY going to scare the shyt out of all of us. Because there's no predicting it and its seemingly impersonal in a way that doesn't allow for any of us to avoid it.

  • Tom Bombadil||

    Reason has written dozens of articles explaining that the term "mass shootings" is a bullshit strawman and the statistics surrounding it are bullshit too. Would be nice if Robbie made that clear up front. It might lessen his burden.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    Reason doesn't write articles. Reason is a website on which articles by various writers are published.

  • Just Say'n||

    Correction: Reason is a website and a publication

    *smiles smugly*

  • Tom Bombadil||

    Doesn't change or diminish my point.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    Yes it does. I also note your lack of evidence supporting your point.

  • Tom Bombadil||

    Oh, FFS.

    You provided no evidence Reason doesn't write articles.

    Further, you provided no evidence that Reason is a website on which articles by various writers are published.

    Further, you provided no evidence that I provided no evidence.

    Is that how the game is played? Moron.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    Is that how the game is played?

    You tell me. Should I be holding you to a lower standard than you're holding Robby here?

  • Emotional Opposition Animal||

    "McDonald's doesn't make hamburgers. McDonald's is a building in which hamburgers made by various workers are sold."

    Soave is associate editor of Reason, not a freelancer. So that argument falls on its face from the getgo. And even with freelance writers like Steve Chapman, Reason decides which POVs they want to publish, and thus are responsible for the content. I don't recall them publishing articles about how illegal immigration is harmful, despite a lot of "various writers" writing such articles.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    Reason doesn't write articles. Reason employs a number of writers that write articles. There are times when those writers don't agree with each other.

  • BYODB||

    One thing Sparky knows for sure is that editorial slant doesn't exist and editors exist merely to spell check things and never, ever can an article because it doesn't fit the publication.

    Seems legit, although last I checked that's not how journalism works so I suppose there was a revolution when I wasn't paying attention.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    An interesting non sequitur to be sure.

  • BYODB||

    More like sarcasm, because all of those things exist and citing 'Reason doesn't write articles!' is inane and utterly misses the point.

    How many 'associate editors' at Reason have written about stronger border security in glowing terms, for example?

    Now would be a good moment to mention 'but it's a libertarian publication!' which, of course, ruins your point.

  • $park¥ leftist poser||

    Now would be a good moment to mention 'but it's a libertarian publication!'

    Reason is a "libertarian" publication produced by non-libertarians and read almost exclusively by non-libertarians.

    'Reason doesn't write articles!' is inane and utterly misses the point

    It doesn't miss the point. The point is "Reason doesn't write articles". It is an answer to someone who gets constantly butthurt that some writer or other doesn't live up to his exacting standards. It was offered as pedantic snark and nothing more. The fact that you're worrying at it like a dog with an old shoe is rather depressing.

  • Palindrome||

    McDonald's is not a building. McDonald's is a corporate entity organized around a vision of making profits by feeding people. It uses buildings and dead animals and equipment and crops and employs people to make it all work. According to some, God made the conditions for that corporation to exist and prosper to the benefit of its investors, owners, and thousands of cardiologists. And Lulubelle, managing the operation of making the French fries, is doing God's work (unless, according to others, she is a tool of Satan, tempting us every time we see a golden arch).

    Now that we have that straight, what is Reason, anyway?

  • Just Say'n||

    Soave quotes Shapiro yesterday to own the libs and now he's defending Peterson? You're a real disappointing woketarian, Soave.

  • SIV||

    "alt-robby"

  • Idle Hands||

    quoting Ben Shapiro might actually be worse schtic than woketarian ToBeSoave.

  • BLPoG||

    Good article, Robby.

  • HGW xx/7||

    feminist philosopher

    Nothing says "philosopher" like someone who has already drawn the narrow conclusion that one gender is perfect and the other is the embodiment of the antichrist. Wouldn't "special interest water-carrier" be a more apt job description?

  • Longtobefree||

    Women can't think, so the can't be philosophers.
    If they could think, they wouldn't need all the government help and special studies and all that, would they?

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    Objection: assumes facts not in evidence. Namely, that philosophers think. Philosophers contemplate, ponder, postulate, but rarely "think" if "thinking" means applying critical thought to the subject at hand.

  • mtrueman||

    "there is no evidence that whiteness itself is the problem"

    White men in the US account for over 70% of the suicides. Isn't that evidence enough for a problem?

  • IceTrey||

    Only if you think it's a problem for individuals to determine their own fate.

  • mtrueman||

    I think it's a problem when people decide to end their own lives. I would be concerned if friends and family were contemplating suicide. I don't believe that a rising suicide rate is a sign of a healthy society, even if it is predominantly white males who are topping themselves.

  • VOTE MILES||

    "there is no evidence that whiteness itself is the problem"

    White men in the US account for over 70% of the suicides. Isn't that evidence enough for a problem?

    How in the world do you reason from the fact that "white men in the US account for over 70% of the suicides" to "whiteness itself is the problem"?

  • mtrueman||

    ""whiteness itself is the problem"?"

    I'm not sure it is. I think a rising suicide rate indicates problems with society and its members. Their skin tone of those who suicide is secondary, though I'm curious why white men seem to find the option of killing themselves so attractive.

  • BYODB||

    One might equally ask how it could be that non-white men are so unsuccessful when they attempt to kill themselves.

  • mtrueman||

    Find yourself an unsuccessful non-white man and ask him.

  • Greg Wasanasan||

    Non success is a cry for help, as they say. In reality, suicide is the easiest and most accessible thing a person can do. The fact that non-white men are unsuccessful is a sign of there being a part of them that still wants to live, but that wants help with whatever issues they are having.

  • sparkstable||

    How being white and male is vilified may be the problem not the existence of being white or male.

    When one group is so routinely ignored out of hand because of past injustices, that immediately undermines the individuality of any particular white man. Thus, that white man may feel out of place because society at large not only thinks little of him, but actively places guilt on him by the virtue of his being white and male. What solution is left when therr is no need to prove guilt before rendering judgement? You can't expect a white male to just sit around in such a society forever banging his head against the wall screaming, "I'm not a sexist racist! You have no proof!" before feeling that the only way out of such a scenario is well... unfortunate.

  • mtrueman||

    I don't think white men are killing themselves over despair of being unjustly labelled as racist or sexist. I think it's about dispossession. From a comment of mine in another thread:

    America's latest dispossessed - those uneducated whites who once could coast through life on their skin tone and an expanding economy - are certainly not doing better. I'd bet they make up a healthy portion of America's growing craze for suicide.

  • VOTE MILES||

    uneducated whites who once could coast through life on their skin tone and an expanding economy - are certainly not doing better.

    Since when has any group, let alone the uneducated, been able to "coast through life on their skin tone?"

  • mtrueman||

    In the middle of the last century. Economy was growing, jobs were plentiful. A man with no particular education could work a forty hour week and support a small family.

  • Azathoth!!||

    A man with no particular education could work a forty hour week

    This is not 'coasting'. On 'skin color' or in any other way.

    It's called 'working'.

  • mtrueman||

    "It's called 'working'

    That's what I called it. What's your point in repeating me?

    I can repeat myself just as easily:

    "A man with no particular education could work a forty hour week"

    Got a problem with that?

  • VOTE MILES||

    Got a problem with that?

    I got a problem with the way you suggest that groups of people could simply coast through life. It's part of a dangerous and despicable false narrative.

    And I got a problem with the way you quietly redefined "coast" as "work" when you got called out on your obvious bullshit. It's a sign of bad faith in your discourse.

    And I got a problem with the tone you took when you were called out for your bad-faith effort to redefine terms. It makes you sound like a real asshole.

  • mtrueman||

    "I got a problem with the way you suggest that groups of people could simply coast through life."

    Why are you so sensitive about it? There's nothing wrong with coasting through life.

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    You are willing to bet, which is just a way of saying "I don't know, but …" Theorizing without facts is the true sign of the philosopher. I'd bet you've found your true calling

  • mtrueman||

    Keep reading. I appreciate your attention.

  • BYODB||

    Successfully offing themselves, to be specific, since if you include unsuccessful attempts, well, it doesn't look as good.

  • LarryA||

    "there is no evidence that whiteness itself is the problem"
    White men in the US account for over 70% of the suicides. Isn't that evidence enough for a problem?

    There's a big difference between "the" problem, in this article acting out by shooting a bunch of people, and "a" problem, something outside the scope of the article.

  • sharmota4zeb||

    Students of color are more likely to attend schools with metal detectors. A female white student is more likely to ask a male student to shoot people for her.

  • Jeep's Blues||

    I wonder what the end game of all this pathologizing of 'whiteness' is. It seems to suggest that the societal solution to solving racism is racism.

  • Eidde||

    I'm just hoping that whatever they have in mind they're too stupid to implement it. But that's just whistling in the wind, just because they're stupid doesn't mean they aren't influential.

  • VOTE MILES||

    Are you referring to the Final Solution?

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    "" It seems to suggest that the societal solution to solving racism is racism."'

    Yes, but they don't see it as racism because they think they cannot commit racism.

  • lulz farmer||

    The end game is to demonize whites while making us a despised minority in our own lands via a combination of mass immigration, miscegenation propaganda, affirmative action and wealth expropriation to lower the birth rates, and then physically exterminate us using direct violence by numbers when we're a demonized minority.

  • Greg Wasanasan||

    That's not the end game. The end game is to try to help white males. It's as simple as that.

  • JoeBlow123||

    THE PATRIARCHY!!! OLD WHITE GUYS WITH MUSTACHES!!

  • HGW xx/7||

    Quite. * twirls the right handlebar menacingly *

  • JoeCorrao||

    Jordan B Peterson

  • texexpatriate||

    I question the wisdom of inviting a university professor whose subject area is Philosophy to comment about anything important. Concepts such as existential angst are meaningless. If Vox really wanted someone who knew something about humans and human behavior the perfect choice would be a psychotherapist who has a long record of successful psychotherapy cases---someone, say, along the lines of Milton Erickson, now deceased. Along with some (but only some, and certainly not most) religious leaders, successful psychotherapists are people who know something about "moral, philosophical, and otherwise" human behavior. An everyday cop on the street would know more about "moral, philosophical, and otherwise" human behavior than a university philosophy professor.

  • mtrueman||

    Cops are ok for saying things like 'I need you to step away from the vehicle,' but to comment on Spinoza, Hegel, Deleuze etc? I need you to step away from the idiocy.

  • Zeb||

    Concepts such as existential angst are meaningless.

    That's not true. Perhaps you just don't understand what it means.

  • BYODB||

    I'm reminded of the 'life is pain' speech in The Princess Bride...

  • VOTE MILES||

    If Vox really wanted someone who knew something about humans and human behavior the perfect choice would be a psychotherapist who has a long record of successful psychotherapy cases

    I LOL'd so hard.

  • Star1988||

    ??? JP is not a philosopher. He is a clinical psychologist teaching at the University of Toronto, formerly Harvard.

  • lulz farmer||

    Even given your authoritarian view of knowledge, do you really want to make the claim that a women's studies professor is far more qualified? Is that really the argument you want to make?

  • Mark22||

    Feminist Philosopher Explains Jordan Peterson's Biggest Mistake, Makes a Bigger One

    Her errors on mass shootings are really the least of her problems.

  • Microaggressor||

    Boy, that's a doozy.

    It argues that misogyny should not be understood primarily in terms of the hatred or hostility some men feel toward all or most women.

    We had to change the definition, you see.

    For this, Manne argues, is misogyny's oft-overlooked and equally pernicious underbelly: exonerating or showing "himpathy" for the comparatively privileged men who dominate, threaten, and silence women.

    Showing empathy to men? That's a paddlin'.

  • Number 2||

    "white women, people of color, nonbinary folks, and so on, almost never act on our existential angst and despair in this way."

    That's because we have thoroughly oppressed, marginalized and invalidated them as human beings that they don't even realize that they have existential angst and despair!

    Sincerely,
    The White Male Patriarchy, Ltd.
    (Be sure to pick up our latest book, "Marginalization for Beginners." Now available on Amazon!)

  • Brett Bellmore||

    "Perpetrators that Mother Jones classifies as Asian make up 7.4 percent of the data set, versus an estimated 5.7 percent of the population"

    Are we talking Asian Asians, or the usual Pakistani "Asians"?

  • lulz farmer||

    East Asians like the Korean guy who shot up Virginia Tech.

  • JonFrum||

    Back in the pre-Internet days, there was a favored meme among black people that serial killers were all white. Then Wayne Williams came along. At first they denied. Then they went silent.

  • Eman||

    Th eres never been a single school shooting in wakanda.

  • Mickey Rat||

    I believe they tend to use melee weapons to make political.points.

  • ||

    Th eres never been a single school shooting in wakanda.

    Sure, but mass stampings are overwhelmingly performed by white rhinos.

  • Ariki||

    That's because their borders are closed.....

  • ||

    Back in the pre-Internet days, there was a favored meme among black people that serial killers were all white. Then Wayne Williams came along. At first they denied. Then they went silent.

    Huh? It wasn't a favored meme among black people. It was *the* profile of a serial killer at the FBI and it did 'go silent'. It eventually spread to any 'lone wolf', bomber, or errant ideologue sought by the FBI (see Richard Jewell and Dr. Steven Hatfill). The "middle-aged, white male of above average intelligence" fucked up the pursuit of the D.C. Snipers for a couple of weeks.

  • Eman||

    It's true enough for politifact, and they have "fact" in their name.

  • No Longer Amused||

    "Whiteness" is not a thing.

  • Hank Phillips||

    Kristallnacht gun laws exist. Just as in nationalsocialist client states, these laws determine that brown people have a harder time exercising 2A rights.

  • ranrod||

    RACE BAITERS hate the truth...............

    Are the inner city gangs white.....NO THEY ARE BLACK OR ILLEGAL ALIENS

    Maybe jihadis, Cruz etc are being linked as "white"

    RACE BAITING GUN GRABBERS

  • mtrueman||

    Inner city gangs have perfectly legit reasons to kill: money and territory. Your typical pasty faced school shooter kills for the fun of it. Unacceptable!

  • MaleMatters||

    Most mass killers are white and most are male.

    "School shootings are homicides that are also suicides—even if the boy doesn't end his own life literally, for all practical purposes, his life is still ended."

    Quote from the jolting new book "The Boy Crisis," by Warren Farrell. It may change your life, and our country. It. Will. Blow. You. Away.

  • lulz farmer||

    No, they're mostly black or mestizo and male. You've fallen for the media propaganda of only playing up white killers while quietly and quickly dropping news on non-white killers.

    It's a propaganda technique known as highlighting and minimizing.

    The actual definition of mass shooting as used in stats for this guarantees that inner-city black and mestizo gangbangers are the overwhelming number of such shooters and killers, no matter how much you may remember Dylan Roof being trumpeted by the media for literally months as if he were the only story in town.

  • buybuydandavis||

    "Math is a social construct of the white supremacist cisheteropatriarchy used to oppress marginalized peoples"

  • Sevo||

    "Feminist Philosopher..."

    Nothing more needs be said.

  • lulz farmer||

    By the way the "white" category of crime stats is intentionally stuffed with racially hybridized non-white people such as Mexicans with non-European ancestry, Arabs, racial Jews and other people no one actually calls white because they're brown and/or look very different. So the real numbers in terms are even lower than this analysis in terms of white under-representation.

  • mtrueman||

    "Mexicans with non-European ancestry"

    Your Mexicans 'with European ancestry' are actually coming from African stock: Muslims, Jews and similar kinds of rubbish.

  • Hank Phillips||

    There is about a gun-free zone that is irresistible to unemployable whack jobs. It means tenured room and board provided by the very tax collectors who not only decreed the gun-free zones, but also sign paychecks for "their brothers' keepers," the prison bureaucracy. With all victims so conveniently disarmed, an unscathed commitment to an asylum for the bewildered is a pretty safe bet for the perpetrator.

  • Clamshell Blister Pack||

    Yes, I don't recall them publishing articles about how illegal immigration is harmful, despite a lot of various writers writing such articles.

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