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Reason Totally Called the Masterpiece Cakeshop Case: Podcast

After oral arguments last year, Stephanie Slade correctly observed that "justices might have found a sort of get-out-of-jail-free card." Also on the Reason Podcast: Bill Clinton, Roseanne, Samantha Bee, Kim Kardashian, and maybe the worst celebrity of the week, Larry Kudlow.

Burn after listening. ||| ReasonReasonAfter December 2017's oral arguments in Masterpiece Cakeshop Ltd. vs. Colorado Civil Rights Commission, a lopsided decision but narrow ruling that was decided 7–2 by the Supreme Court today, Managing Editor Stephanie Slade, always worth reading on the intersection of religion and government, made this prescient observation: "The Supreme Court is left with something its members clearly see as a difficult task: defining the contours of a state's power to require people to do what their religion tells them they may not. But the justices might have found a sort of get-out-of-jail-free card allowing them not to make such a tricky ruling: In stark language, several questioned whether anti-religious animus may have motivated the Colorado Civil Rights Commission's judgment against Phillips."

Moral of the story: Always trust content from Reason!

The gay wedding cake saga was one of several culture-war conflicts discussed on today's editor-roundtable edition of the Reason Podcast, featuring Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, Peter Suderman, and me. Others included: Bill Clinton's #MeToo moment, the Roseanne Barr/Bill Maher/Samantha Bee cycle of outrage, Kim Kardashian's bizarrely derided White House visit, and the desultory trade-war apologia from Larry "I should totally know better" Kudlow. Along the way we also allow editorial overlord Katherine Mangu-Ward take victory lap about Reason's sensational new "Burn After Reading" issue, which you can get a special first-class delivery of if you click this link right the hell now!

Audio production by Ian Keyser.

'Rebel Blues' by Sul Rebel is licensed under CC BY NC 4.0

Relevant links from the show:

"Bill Clinton Gets Defensive, Pivots to Trump Transgressions When Asked About #MeToo Movement and Monica Lewinsky," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown

"Supreme Court Rules for Baker in Gay Wedding Cake Case But Carefully Avoids Central Debate," by Scott Shackford

"The Masterpiece Cakeshop Decision Leaves Almost All the Big Questions Unresolved," by Eugene Volokh

"Can States Compel You to Bake a Cake Against Your Will? The Supreme Court Will Decide," by Stephanie Slade

"Reason Foundation Supports Florists, Bakers in Gay Wedding Case Before Supreme Court," by Scott Shackford

"Christians Started the Wedding Wars," by Stephanie Slade

"Two Minutes of Listening Beats a Two-Minute Hate," by A. Barton Hinkle

"Samantha Bee Apologizes for Insulting Ivanka Trump After Right and Left Play 'We're Offended' Tit-for-Tat," by Robby Soave

"Decoding Trump's Dinesh D'Souza Pardon," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown

"Liberals Freak Out As Kim Kardashian Visits White House to Talk Criminal Justice Reform," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown

"Kim Kardashian Is Currently Our Nation's Greatest Hope for Prison Reform," by C.J. Ciaramella

"This Man Was Released From Prison and Rebuilt His Life; Two Years Later He Got Sent Back Because of an 'Error,'" by C.J. Ciaramella

"Roseanne Reboot Is Dead. Will Real Time with Bill Maher Be Next?" by Elizabeth Nolan Brown

"Liberals Killed Roseanne. Conservatives Crushed the NFL Protests. Everybody Happy Now?" by Robby Soave

"How Trump's Tariffs Will Harm National Security," by Steve Chapman

"Study: Trump's Proposed Automobile Tariffs Will Destroy 195,000 American Jobs," by Eric Boehm

"Today Is the Start of Hurricane Season. Trump's Tariffs Could Make It More Costly," by Eric Boehm

"Trump Is Standing on the Precipice of a Real and Serious Trade War," by Eric Boehm

"'Free-Market' Conservatives Welcome Their New Protectionist Overlord," by Matt Welch

"YouTube Won't Host Our Homemade Gun Video. So We Posted It on PornHub Instead," by Katherine Mangu-Ward, Todd Krainin, and Jim Epstein

"How to (Legally) Make Your Own Off-the-Books Handgun," by Mark McDaniel

"When You're Done Reading This Issue of Reason, You Might Want to Burn It," by Katherine Mangu-Ward

"Reason at FEEcon 2018, June 7–9 in Atlanta!" by Nick Gillespie

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  • Dillinger||

    giant, unfunny p.m. links?

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    I should have known from the title of this, but I must say I didn't expect this podcast to just be an hour of the sounds of masturbating.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    I think you accidentally buttdialed your voicemail.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    No, I keep all that on my iPod.

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    Don't break your arm.

  • Shirley Knott||


  • John||

    Demonic possession is real. This is so much more fun than the usual Satanist BS.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    Is anybody following the Melania Drumpf controversy? She hasn't been seen in public much lately, and there's speculation she's the victim of domestic violence and is concealing her injuries. Rolling Stone's Jamil Smith writes, I wish that I didn't suspect that the prolonged, poorly explained public absence of Melania Trump could be about concealing abuse. I wish that it was a ludicrous prospect. I wish that the @POTUS wasn't a man with a history of abusing women, including those to whom he is married.

    Reason #392,149 I'm proud to have voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016. If Bill Clinton became the First Husband and hadn't been photographed in a while, there would be no suspicion Hillary abused him. But with a terrible human being like Drumpf in the White House, you just never know. The media needs to get to the bottom of this.


  • John||

    There is speculation you ass fucked a sheep. You haven't been seen not ass fucking a sheep.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    What a weak attempt to deflect from a very real scandal.


  • John||

    No, it was my failure to note your decent trolling.

  • Scarecrow Repair & Chippering||

    It's more likely she's been sharing a cigar with Bill. You remember Bill? First black President, and the rightful Mr. First Gentleman.


  • Tony||

    My money's on plastic surgery recovery, but I wonder if we'd be able to tell the difference?

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    In order to be an effective member of #TheResistance, you need to default to the most anti-Drumpf narrative available. "Recovery from cosmetic surgery" doesn't accomplish that.

  • Chipper Morning Baculum||

    Extra strength weak sauce.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||


    Four words, and "Chinese Room" not among them? You can do better.

  • John||

    She had surgery, you hateful half wit.

  • Tony||

    Just stop John. Not after all the many things you've said about Michelle Obama. You just don't get to do this. Sorry.

  • John||

    I never said a single thing about Michelle Obama. Go find a link where I did. You won't find one. So stop lying. You are a horrible human being. Stop pretending everyone else is horrible to rationalize it. Seriously, you are a terrible person. Don't you ever get tired of being so hateful and nasty?

  • Tony||

    I know that you start flailing and calling names when you're called out on your rampant hypocrisy.

  • John||

    Yes, Tony can't find a link, despite my commenting on here for the entire Obama administration. I never said shit about Michelle. And you just pretend I did to rationalize how awful you are.

  • Tony||

    Of course I can't find a link. Your name is John. And I refuse to believe a person as nasty and in the rightwing bubble and nasty as you refrained from being a dick about Michelle Obama. I'll just take it on faith because I know what i've read, but I could be wrong, and if so, who gives a fuck, you're wrong about literally everything.

    Where did I even say plastic surgery was a bad thing? I wouldn't want to be seen in public during the healing process either.

  • John||

    Yes Tony you imagine everyone else is as horrible as you are.

  • Ecoli||

    Nobody ever said a bad word about Michelle. Everybody loves wookies.

  • Tony||

    *John's chuckle turns into a guffaw as he soaks in the funny joke. Then he wonders, how does a joke remain funny when I've made the same one so many times before? Must be a trait of racist shitcunts.*


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