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  • Roy MooreDan Anderson/ZUMA Press/NewscomLawyers for Alabama Judge Roy Moore sent a grammatically nuts, legally dubious, and all around batshit letter to a local news group and The Washington Post, threatening legal action.
  • The Zimbabwe military took over the country early Wednesday and have longtime President Robert Mugabe detained, "capping a political showdown over Mugabe's apparent attempts to install his wife as successor," the Post reports. "A televised announcement after tanks and troops rolled into the capital, Harare, insisted it was 'not a military takeover.'"
  • A "bizarre and murderous rampage" in and around a school in Tehama County, California, has left five dead, including the shooter. No students or staff were among the fatalities, though at least two children were wounded.
  • Russia is considering new rules for foreign-funded media outlets in retaliation for the U.S. requiring RT to register as a foreign agent.
  • Australians voted in favor of legalizing same-sex marriage.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Australians voted in favor of legalizing same-sex marriage.

    Something something down under?

  • Conchfritters||

    They were worried Judge Moore would go there on vacation after he looses the election in a few weeks, mate.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    G'day mate is just a letter and punctuation away from gay mate. Think about it.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    And two letters away from Gay Day Mate.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Don't be homophobic.

  • ||

    Hello.

  • CE||

    I thought they were liberal down there. Why are they so behind the times?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Because they're socialist.

    Socialists tend to act progressive plus all free and stuff, but they aren't.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    A "bizarre and murderous rampage" in and around a school in Tehama County, California, has left five dead, including the shooter.

    Spare me the facts. I want the narrative!

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    Just list the shooters race and the story writes itself.

  • Bubba Jones||

    He was already legally banned from possessing guns, therefore the only solution is to confiscate all guns.

  • Brandybuck||

    This is Tehama county. Good luck rounding up anything.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    He was from the part of California that sees gun ownership in the same way they do in Nebraska-- as something enshrined by God in the Constitution so that the country can't be taken over by the AntiChrist in the form of Black militant socialists with special marks on their foreheads.

  • Ron||

    He's from a part of California where pot growers now control the land and the police do little about it even when they block off legal roads and threaten neighbors

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    He's from Libertopia?

  • Philadelphia Collins||

    They're called Natural Rights.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    So Nancy Pelosi does not represent all Californians?

    So not all Californians think gun control laws are constitutional?

    You Commifornia lovers will say anything to deflect bad press.

  • Mike Laursen||

    California has a very conservative minority. We're the home of the Ronald Reagan presidential library and the birthplace of the John Birch Society, for heaven's sake.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Russia is considering new rules for foreign-funded media outlets in retaliation for the U.S. requiring RT to register as a foreign agent.

    There's a bear in the woods, and he's spouting fake news.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    "capping a political showdown over Mugabe's apparent attempts to install his wife as successor," the Post reports.

    THAT was the last straw?

  • Zeb||

    Destroying the economy of a once relatively prosperous country is not enough, I guess.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    If it was, the floors of the U.S. Capitol would be knee deep in justified fear-poo.

  • John||

    Sure he destroyed the economy and caused mass starvation and turned a once pleasant place into a totalitarian hellhole, but he meant well Zeb. And Zimbabwe was the victim of colonialism!!

    This is what the left actually believes.

  • DJF||

    Putting his wife in charge cut out someone else who already had plans on refurnishing the Presidential palace and so Mugabe had to go.

  • John||

    We can only hope they both are suffering a horrible and painful death right now. For once maybe justice can be served if still delayed.

  • damikesc||

    Shouldn't he be described as WHO AMBASSADOR Mugabe?

    We should be applauding this. Fuck that asshole.

  • John||

    He is the UN Goodwill ambassador. No shit. you can't make this shit up.

  • Bubba Jones||

    He was briefly the WHO goodwill ambassador.

    Which is honestly worse, because WHO is sometimes useful.

  • gaoxiaen||

    +1 hundred trillion dollar bill

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    Well, so long as the army has guns and ammo, they can GET food.

  • CE||

    You know who else tried to install his wife as the national leader after he left office?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "...capping a political showdown over Mugabe's apparent attempts to install his wife as successor," the Post reports.

    Lock! Her! Up!

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    We really do have so much in common with each other.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Lawyers for Alabama Judge Roy Moore sent a grammatically nuts, legally dubious, and all around batshit letter to a local news group and The Washington Post, threatening legal action.

    Jailbait chaser is a "Christian conservative" no doubt.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Innocent until proven guilty, am I right?

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    Yeah you have to be convicted in a court of law before you consider voting for a person who has several people accusing him of sexual misconduct. That's what particularly stupid defenders of Bill Clinton believe.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    consider *not* voting

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Butt: Remember when adultery was deemed not that bad by the left? A charge of adultery would have come in really handy about now.

    Oh that's right, he didn't get married until 1985.

  • damikesc||

    As Rush pointed out...he was a Democrat when he did all of this.

    And I thought the Christian Right were "squares" who had to loosen up on their attitudes a bit. Seems that they are damned if they do and damned if they do not.

  • chemjeff||

    "he was a Democrat when he did all of this."

    So that justifies chasing underage tail!

  • loveconstitution1789||

    But that means a Democrat diddled a 14 year old girl.

    HOW COULD THE DEMOCRATS LET A CHILD DIDDLER REMAIN IN OFFICE?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Roy Moore is going to win his Senate seat and then he can resign. A new special election will be held and another Republican will beat the Democrat to win the Senate seat.

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    According to Rush (admittedly, hardly an unbiased source) when the events allegedly took place, the man was a Democrat. Make of that what you will.

    I weary of these 'revelations'. So, a bunch of show business types and politicians have wandering hands and can be remarkably deaf to the word 'no'. This is not news. Accusations made this late in the game should have little weight. The scumbags may be guilty as hell, but decades later it's gonna be hard for them to prove that they aren't even if they aren't. There is a statute of limitations for a reason. Yes, we'll have to let some despicable scumbags go. So Harvey 'casting couch' Weinstein will walk. There. Isn't. Any. Real. Evidence. Decades old hearsay isn't evidence, or shouldn't be.

    I'm gonna call for a little shift in focus; how about instead of rolling in decades old accusations, like a dog in a rotting skunk, we make it clear that if women come forward WHEN SOMETHING HAPPENS they will be supported?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Sounds like a plan Stan.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Lawyers for Alabama Judge Roy Moore sent a grammatically nuts, legally dubious, and all around batshit letter to a local news group and The Washington Post, threatening legal action.

    A prosecutor-slash-judge who got away for years with diddling teenagers isn't going down without a fight.

  • John||

    Fucking teenagers, provided they are over 16 is legal. There is nothing to get away with. And interestingly enough, none of them say they had sex with him. They all said they just made out. The guy apparently never made his move.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    John, even your fellow GOP boner-slurper Sean Hannity is distancing himself from the child predator:

    http://www.businessinsider.com.....ms-2017-11

  • John||

    If I gave a shit about what he thinks or cared who he was, I guess that might be important. Since I don't, it is not. Since you have a man crush on the guy and seem to know his every opinion and move, it no doubt is important to you. Me, I really don't give a shit.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Its a lefty trying to speak Libertarian. He throws out Hannity like anyone on here watches FOX news.

  • Rhywun||

    Or reads businessinsider. Sheesh.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You're a fucking garden variety conservative Republican like Hannity.

    Penn Jillette is a lefty to you.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Aw Butt: You really have now idea what a Libertarian or Republican stand for, do you?

    Jillette is not a Libertarian. I don't think he's a socialist like you though.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Jillette is not a Libertarian

    But Trump is.

    If anyone doubted your idiocy they should read this and never doubt again.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Trump is not a Libertarian. He has done more Libertarian-ish dismantling than any Libertarian so far though.

    You really are batting zero today Butt. You idiocy is really off the rails because you lefties want this Senate seat.

    Are you going cry when Roy Moore becomes Senator of Alabama?

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Jillette is not a Libertarian.

    Epic.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Jillette refuses to do drugs.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Crusty Juggler|11.15.17 @ 10:12AM|#
    Jillette is not a Libertarian.
    Epic.


    "Why, yes it was. Which makes the headline confession here downright shocking: Penn Jillette admits to voting for Hillary Clinton, 'who I do not agree with on anything'!"

    "I really thought there could be no one worse than Hillary Clinton, and there is no one worse than Hillary Clinton except Donald Trump".

    "GILLESPIE: And Clinton is also helping. I mean…Now, I know you've said if your vote is going to matter, you think it is, you're going to vote for Hillary, you'll put a Hillary sticker on your car.
    JILLETTE: Yep"

    Epic all right.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    "I really thought there could be no one worse than Hillary Clinton, and there is no one worse than Hillary Clinton except Donald Trump".

    That is perfectly consistent with libertarian thinking - you moronic dipshit.

  • Rhywun||

    A little more consistent would be not voting for a Democrat or a Republican. I guess that's just me.

  • Bubba Jones||

    A libertarian would know that his vote will not actually change the outcome so there is no reason not to vote for the 3rd party candidate who actually represents your views.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Bubba Jones|11.15.17 @ 10:46AM|#
    A libertarian would know that his vote will not actually change the outcome so there is no reason not to vote for the 3rd party candidate who actually represents your views.


    Sorry you feel that way. I guess you will never try and make a Libertarians win and election then. In order to win, they need votes

    As a Libertarian, my single vote toward a Libertarian candidate helps them win. Of course, the candidate needs more than just my vote, but you need to start somewhere.

    Nevada was going Hillary or Trump. Jillette helped Hillary win Nevada. Whatever floats your boats but I will never let someone do that and act like its something else.

  • Bubba Jones||

    Jillette helped Hillary win Nevada.

    Hillary won by 27,000 votes.

    I will never let someone do that and act like its something else.

    I am not sure if that is a display of hubris, or just autism.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Bubba Jones|11.15.17 @ 12:29PM|#
    Jillette helped Hillary win Nevada.
    Hillary won by 27,000 votes.
    I will never let someone do that and act like its something else.
    I am not sure if that is a display of hubris, or just autism.


    You are sure those 27,000 votes were just die hard Hillary fans? I am glad you are so sure. I would love to see your citation on why those voters voted the way they did. I have faith that you can find it to support your position.

    You can ignore the other things that I wrote, but Libertarians cannot win if you don't vote for them. Jillette helped Hillary win by 1 vote. Maybe the other 26,999 voters did the same thing. YOU don't know. What we do know is that Libertarians can only win if people vote for them.

  • Azathoth!!||

    Hillary won by ONE vote.

    The other 26,999 are just icing on the cake--they're not needed.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Palin's Buttplug|11.15.17 @ 10:34AM|#
    "I really thought there could be no one worse than Hillary Clinton, and there is no one worse than Hillary Clinton except Donald Trump".
    That is perfectly consistent with libertarian thinking - you moronic dipshit.


    Aw Butt, you poor dipshit.

    Hillary is the worst for a Libertarian. The worst. Donald Trump is better than the worst.

    THAT is perfectly consistent with Libertarian thinking. You have zero idea what a Libertarian even is, you socialist.

  • chemjeff||

    Hillary is the worst for a Libertarian. The worst. Donald Trump is better than the worst.

    She is? I mean, they are both downright awful. But I don't think you can categorically say one is better than the other. It all boils down to which aspects of liberty you find to be more important to you. Hillary is better on more of the "lifestyle liberty" aspects - gay marriage, etc. Trump may end up being better on some aspects of liberty, but only by accident to be honest.

  • Bubba Jones||

    Hillary is worse on gay marriage to the extent that battleground has shifted to wedding cakes.

    Hillary is worse on guns.

    Hillary is worse on mandating how businesses enforce restroom policy.

    Hillary is worse on every issue unless you classify pro-abortion as a libertarian position, and I don't.

  • Magnitogorsk||

    He made a deal to vote for Hillary in his state in exchange for a dozen people in other states voting for Johnson. How are you so misinformed about everything?

  • Bubba Jones||

    BOOM

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Magnitogorsk|11.15.17 @ 10:49AM|#
    He made a deal to vote for Hillary in his state in exchange for a dozen people in other states voting for Johnson. How are you so misinformed about everything?


    Yes. He said that. Who were the other parties of this "deal"? They clearly agreed to this "deal", ammirite? See, a deal needs two parties who have a meeting of the minds and agree to the contract.

    No. His interview with Jacket was all fluff and never really addressed any Libertarian ideals he has. Who cares because the main take away was some "deal" where Jillette publicly said he would vote for Hillary and she was better than Donald Trump. He was hoping others would vote for GayJay.

    It was a scam "deal" and his vote for GayJay in Nevada would have meant something. He could have urged other people to vote for GayJay in other states because Libertarianism is the correct path.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    BOOM!

  • BYODB||


    He made a deal to vote for Hillary in his state in exchange for a dozen people in other states voting for Johnson.

    I was under the impression this type of thing was actually illegal, but perhaps not.

  • Francisco d'Anconia||

    So Penn isn't a libertarian because he voted for Clinton to avoid Trump. Are those who voted for Trump to avoid Clinton also not libertarian?

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Look, y'all, lc1789 is really, really dumb. Don't overthink anything he says.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Look, y'all. Citizen X - #6 is really, really (I mean really) dumb. Don't mind his ramblings or pay attention to anything he says.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Francisco d'Anconia|11.15.17 @ 11:06AM|#
    So Penn isn't a libertarian because he voted for Clinton to avoid Trump. Are those who voted for Trump to avoid Clinton also not libertarian?


    Clinton has never done or wanted to do anything that is pro-Libertarian. Nothing. Hillary is for getting rid of our Constitution, she is not for civil rights, she is not for business rights, nor is she interested in seeing America do well.

    Trump is not Libertarian but has done Libertarian-ish things. Gorsuch, EO repeal 2 for 1, tried to gut some federal agencies, has not started a new war, school choice, drug legalization, got USA out of TPP and soon FTA, deporting illegals, securing America's border, regulation roll backs, pushed tax reform, pushed ObamaCare repeal, etc

  • gaoxiaen||

    You misspelled "manatee".

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    Why doesn't he just say, "what I did is legal"?
    Seems like a better card to play than legal action against the press.

  • John||

    If his claim is that these accusations are untrue, he should sue the press. I am tired of all of this kind of bullshit happening with no one ever saying anything under oath. If he says they are lying, then put his money where his mouth is and sue and say so in court under oath. Same goes for the accusers. Libel and slander actions serve a valuable function in society and are not used enough.

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    Ah, I didn't know his defense is that they are lying. I don't see why it shouldn't be substantiated under oath. For all parties involved.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    This will all be forgotten after Roy Moor wins his Senate seat.

    The left will move on to a new agenda. The left's strategy is to ruthlessly use people to grab anything political position they can to stop Trump.

    Trump is actively dismantling their utopia-in-the-making. It's war as far as the lefties are concerned.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    There is nothing to get away with.

    Politically, I'd say there was. Even in Alabama.

  • John||

    Really? Take politics out of it for a moment. Imagine Roy Moore is your perfect political candidate and that he holds every view that you would want a politician to hold. If that were the case and Moore were the great Libertarian hope, would you really give a shit that he dated legal teenagers 40 years ago when he was single? Why? If he were still doing it and had not been by all accounts so far faithfully married for 37 years or whatever, sure. But assuming he has, what the hell difference does it make? I honestly don't see why does. There are a lot worse things a politician could do and indeed most of those in office have.

    That doesn't mean you should support more. There is a lot about his politics not to like. But you should dislike him for what he thinks and what you think he will do as a Senator not because of this bullshit.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    But that's the thing, his constituency would be fundamentalist-types who should frown on their prosecutor having any relations with a teen twenty years his junior. If he was a libertarian I would judge him with different criteria (but I'd still consider his character one of poor judgment). (If any of it is true.)

  • John||

    His supporters are electing a Senator, not a Pope. They have a right to make political calculations for what is in their best interests like anyone else. Think of it from the view of his supporters. Moore's opponent is openly claiming to be the "Candidate of Planned Parenthood". Now, if you honestly consider abortion to be murder, Planned Parenthood is in the business of killing children and selling their body parts for a profit. So, you are supposed to vote for the candidate who supports that because Roy Moore was a sinner 40 years ago?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Then, like I said, he got away with it.

  • John||

    Sometimes life is like that. The people of Alabama have every right to have values and interests that are more important than punishing every misdeed. Which is worse, letting Moore get away with it or putting someone who supports the dismemberment and selling of children in the Senate? I can see where voters in Alabama would see Moore getting away with it as the lesser of those two evils.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Holding ones nose and pulling the lever against the other guy is a long tradition. But throughout Moore's rise in the GOP there have been primary chances to judge him.

  • Bubba Jones||

    Holding ones nose and pulling the lever against the other guy is a long tradition. But throughout Moore's rise in the GOP there have been primary chances to judge him.

    Conveniently for the Democrats, this information didn't come out during the primary.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Fist: Religious types are typically fine with men messing with girls so there can be more religious babies. They tend to draw a line at a certain age like 14 or 16, but families are more involved in who the girl dates, marries and has sex with. Pre-marital sex is a sin, so they frown on that.

    Since you have a bunch of hypocrites all mixed into the whole religious scene, you get modern American Christianity in the South.

    Most Alabamans will still vote him into the Senate and then might urge him to resign. They just do not want a Democrat Senator. Tony, Butt and the other lefties on here do want a Democrat Senator.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I'd have to think even within the generally hypocritical community of the Christian right, you'd want to at least pretend to factor in traditional family values into your calculation at the polls. We're talking about a man in his 30's and a girl in her teens. But, for sure, your last paragraph is on the money.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    I know that seems like outside the traditional family values but its not. They didn't have sex, so there was no pre-marital sex sin there. The family approved of the "dates" IIRC, so traditional Christians will defer to that over modern public outrage.

    Only in the last 40 years has messing with girls aged 14-18 become taboo. It was creepy before but before that it was common. 70 years ago, humans typically died around 55, so people felt popping out kids when the girl was 16 was a good thing. Before that, when humans only lived to about 35, having kids when you were 14 was almost a necessity.

    When you judge historical customs using modern lenses, you will always be wanting.

  • CE||

    I'm older than 40, and it's been taboo longer than that.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    CE|11.15.17 @ 12:15PM|#
    I'm older than 40, and it's been taboo longer than that.


    No it hasn't.

    Your famous Baby Boomers were fucking and doing all sorts of nasty in the 1960s and 1970s. I bet all the sexual encounters at Woodstock were all 18 and above, ammirite?

    Girls at 15-17 were out hitch-hiking on freeways and roads in the 1970s. They must have paid in cash, grass or ass.

  • John||

    Why is it hypocritical to vote for the lesser of two evils? You are just holding the Christian Right to standards you would never hold yourself to.

  • Bubba Jones||

    The choice is someone who kissed a 14 year old girl versus someone who literally campaigns on killing babies.

    I don't think it's hypocritical to vote for Moore and then hope someone better primaries him at the next election.

    After all, if the Democrats really wanted what was best for the Conservative Christians, they would have published this information during the primaries so that the Christians could choose someone who better represented them.

  • Bubba Jones||

    Cognitive dissonance isn't just a band name.

  • Bubba Jones||

    When we reach the singularity and live forever, no one will be suitable for office.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    Ah hah... look at John defend a pedo. Geesch. John, I'll take you up on your ridiculous scenario because I have a young daughter at home. If 5 women came forward and accused Bernie Sanders of trying to rape them (2 were younger than 16 so, yes, that's rape) back in 1979 I would run out and pull the voting lever for Donald Trump. But, really, it's just a hypothetical because Trump has been accused by 17 women of sexual misconduct. One accusation, which I give a 40% chance of being true, is that he violently raped a 13-yo.

    What has happened to family values conservatism, John? You poor thing... no principles, no integrity... just a bunch of Team Red bullshit. You're probably a great attorney, scumbag.

  • John||

    yes, you will make up hypotheticals that have no relation to reality and then lie and pretend you hold one position for the purpose of making some idiotic point you think advances your cause.

    We know you are an idiot and a troll. You don't have to prove it every single day. You really don't.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    John,

    Can you give me the Top Ten reasons why I should vote for a man who in his thirties put his hand underneath the panties of a 14-yo child? You are one gross motherfucker, dude.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot|11.15.17 @ 12:04PM|#
    John,
    Can you give me the Top Ten reasons why I should vote for a man who in his thirties put his hand underneath the panties of a 14-yo child? You are one gross motherfucker, dude.


    You voted for Bill Clinton. He was a VIP on Lolita Express.

    You would never vote for Roy Moore because he's not a lefty.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot|11.15.17 @ 11:10AM|#
    "I would run out and pull the voting lever for Donald Trump"
    You lie, you socialist turd.

    Are you gonna cry when Roy Moore wins his Senate seat?

  • Memory Hole||

    "They all said they just made out."

    You just make shit up.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    John's moves are a bit more advanced than some. "Making out" is 3rd base to some.

    But I never saw any accusations of actual sex.

  • John||

    No I didn't. There are two accusations that involve actual sex or misconduct, the woman who claims she was 14 and the woman who hired Gloria Aldred. The rest of them are some variation of "I was 17 and we went out a few times".

  • Memory Hole||

    Ok, but you said "they all said".

  • Bubba Jones||

    The 14 year old says he rubbed her through her clothes and put her hand on his underwear.

    That is obviously a lot more than "making out" but it's not 3rd base, either.

  • Red Tony||

    Let's be honest baseball is a horrible analogy for getting laid.

    That's right, I said it. THE BASEBALL ANALOGY DON'T WORK, KIDS!

  • loveconstitution1789||

    1st is making out. 2nd is boob action. 3rd is finger banging. Home is sex.

    Plus, around here Crusty is always....always...warming up with his bat, while you are moving thru the bases on a chick.

  • Red Tony||

    Yeah but what's between 1st and 2nd? And 2nd and 3rd? And 3rd and home? And where does oral come in?

    Too many variables. We need another sport.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    What sport has oral in it?

    Oral instead of fingers=3rd base.

    buttsex is penetration=Home

    This does not necessarily work with gay folks.

  • Bubba Jones||

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....cc1a4e3f16

    I would not vote for this guy.

    The consistent allegations that he rubbed 14 and 16 year olds without having sex with them actually makes it more credible in my eyes.

    But then again, I don't typically vote for Republicans.

  • John||

    Then don't vote for him. But be honest and say you are not voting for him because of his politics. That is what you are doing here and that is fine. But if you would vote for him despite this if you liked his politics, then you are not voting against him because of this.

  • Bubba Jones||

    I wouldn't vote for him because he's not libertarian in any sense of the word.

    The luxury of voting libertarian is that there is no risk of him/her actually winning so I don't need to worry about the details.

    But I still rank him above the baby killer.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    Yeah, John, not voting for a pedo even if you agree with his politics is something that people with an intact sense of morality and decency actually do. Go ahead, John, make your excuses...

  • Citizen X - #6||

    All disclaimers about John being a known partisan hack aside, i'm curious as to what you think "morality" and "decency" are. For a guy who bragged about telling Cubans how lucky they are to be poor and oppressed and lionizes mass murderers, i'm guessing those words have very different meanings than they do for, you know, actually moral, decent people.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    I've never done any of those things so I don't know what you are talking about.

  • John||

    Go overcompensate for whatever guilty you have for whatever you have done or wanted to do with children somewhere else. No one is buying it you fucking weirdo.

    And try posting something besides stale talking points and slander. Shreek is a more interesting and better troll than you are.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    Where have I slandered anyone? It's all there in digital, John. You're leading the argument as to why you'd vote for a pedophile. Hey, at least you're honest and not relying on what these moral degenerates in the Senate are doing when they say: " If he did it..." You're honest, John, you'd vote for a child rapist. At least you have some integrity. Morality, common sense, decency, perspective-- no. But integrity, yes.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Lawyers for Alabama Judge Roy Moore sent a grammatically nuts, legally dubious, and all around batshit letter to a local news group and The Washington Post, threatening legal action.

    Every law firm i've ever worked for would have immediately fired whoever drafted that letter.

  • John||

    It is not a well-written letter. But what is so crazy and outrageous about it. It just says that your client is slandering mine and if they don't stop and take it back, we intend to sue. I have seen a lot of poor legal writing in my time and a lot of it from allegedly top firms. That letter doesn't even make the top 20% of the worst writing I have seen. And I honestly don't see what is crazy about it. Am I missing something? Seriously, what is crazy about the content of it?

  • Adam330||

    Well it applies completely incorrect legal standards to the issue.

  • John||

    Not really. It says their conduct was careless. And yes, the standard for slander of a public figure is "reckless disregard". But, if you carelessly publish an untruth and then refuse to retract it after you have been informed that it is false, that becomes reckless disregard. So what the letter is saying is that "hey you guys either negligently or maliciously are slandering my client. Stop it or we will file suit." That is an appropriate thing to say. It is not saying that the negligence makes them liable. It is putting them on notice that even if they have only been negligent and the information is false.

  • Jerryskids||

    If you've worked for a decent law firm you don't fire the lawyer who drafted the letter, you fire the client who insisted against your advice to have the letter drafted. The first piece of advice any lawyer's going to give you is "STFU". And any lawyer with experience knows damn well STFU is the last thing the client has in mind. This "bumptious threat", as Popehat calls them, just makes you look stupid and provides lots of derisive laughter as it gets splashed across the internet. It's bad enough to have people thinking you're a criminal, it's even worse to have people thinking you're an idiot as well.

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    My first time ever making it to the AM links and all it took was a major insomnia flare up. Morning boys, glad to be here!

  • Citizen X - #6||

    You may have set your expectations a bit high.

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    It beats trying to fall asleep for another 8 hours : /

  • ||

    What did you watch on TV?

    /member of the insomnia club.

    Mind you it's gotten a lot better.

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    Doing the usual til 2am like normal then laid in bed for an eternity. Not my first rodeo with the full throttle insomnia, but it was a pretty bad one. Deciding if I should go to work on no sleep... so much to do, it's frustrating af.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Doxylamine succinate 25mg.

    Melatonin.

    Intense exercise.

    Lots of cheap scotch.

    A warm fleshlite.

    A combination of some and/or all of the above.

  • ||

    Intense exercise is useless to me. Never worked.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Sure, but it keeps your dick hard which helps with the fleshlite.

    This guy.

  • Leo Kovalensky||

    Doesn't the fleshlite count as exercise?

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Good point.

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    Docs given me Ambien before, have NyQuil on the nightstand, used melatonin pills an strips before. It all works sometimes, but I run into the problem where my mind fights the drugs and I'll end up in this loopy uncomfortable state.

    Heavy load of whiskey works but I'm trying to cut back.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Meditate. Exercise. And pill up, bro! Doxylamine is otc, so get it together and pop a couple tonight.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    I'm just throwing out all the stuff that eventually helped me, because even though I am still a terrible sleeper, I now manage to sleep before midnight and wake at 6 for work, which is astounding.

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    Well that's what I need to do if I'm ever going to move on up to the east side. Lots of people keep saying meditate. What context do you do that in?

  • Crusty Juggler||

    You put some relaxing tunes on your iphone, pop the ear buds in and think positively while repeating something to yourself, like "I have a huge hog," or "I'm awesome," "I wish I was like Crusty."

    You know.

  • CE||

    My secrets to a good night's sleep:

    1. Go to bed at the same time every night.
    2. Wake up at the same time every day.
    3. Don't watch the news.
    4. No TV in the bedroom.
    5. No checking the cell phone in bed.
    6. Blackout curtains.
    7. Small dose of melatonin.

  • Bubba Jones||

    YOU ARE PRACTICING MEDICINE WITHOUT A LICENSE!

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    I put on some pass out TV, which for me is Netflix shows with the volume down,like Archer or It's Always Sunny -- something I've seen a million times.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    You can only "brown out" to Always Sunny.... not pass out.

  • gaoxiaen||

    Hair Club for Men.

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    "A televised announcement after tanks and troops rolled into the capital, Harare, insisted it was 'not a military takeover.'"

    Basically just a normal Wednesday.

  • Aloysious||

    Russia starts T-90S main battle tank deliveries to Iraq

    Russia's Uralvagonzavod defense manufacturer said in its report for 2016 that the corporation intended to implement two contracts in 2017 for the delivery of T-90S/SK main battle tanks. The first contract for 64 tanks was concluded with foreign customer No. 704. The second contract was signed with foreign customer No. 368, under which the first delivery batch will include 73 tanks.

    According to the all-Russian Country Classifier, Vietnam is customer No. 704 and Iraq is customer No. 368.
  • creech||

    Where does Iraq get the money to buy tanks? If oil money, don't they have some loans to pay back to the U.S. first? I'm surprised U.S. tank builders aren't up in arms with Trump about this.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Do you really want Iraqis having our badass M-1 tanks? I don't. We are just going to go back in there in 7.5 years and blow up whatever tanks they have.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    our badass fuel guzzling M-1 tanks?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    How else do you plan to move a 60 ton almost invulnerable armored vehicle around?

    There is a great morale boost to knowing you are fighting in an armored vehicle that has proven to be almost 100% safe for its crew. The tank make get tracked or run our of ammo, but you will probably not die in a that tin can.

    The flip side is that most ex-soviet tank crews know or should know they are probably going to die in their tin can.

  • DJF||

    Iraq already has M-1 tanks which the Iraqis Army bravely abandoned when ISIS attacked.

    T-90 are much cheaper then M-1 and so it won't cost as much to replace when abandoned

  • loveconstitution1789||

    That too.

  • DJF||

    Paying back loans to the US! That is crazy talk. Next you will be saying that foreign countries should pay for their own defense!!!!!!!

  • CE||

    Or the USA should pay down its national debt.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Here's an idea:

    How 'bout Sessions resigns as AG (Trump isn't all that happy with his recusal-happy ass anyway) and runs for Senate in Alabama instead?

    I'm just sayin'.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    I think its genius to get rid of these old coots who will never leave Congress by promising them cabinet positions. The Congressman resigns their congressional seat and then all hell breaks lose in their home district. Then after a few months, fire the old coot from the cabinet position and they have no congressional seat to fall back on.

    'n'th D Chess.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Sessions could be a write in candidate for this election.

    Or he could be on the ballot in 2020.

  • Libertarian||

    Not sure about other states, but in my state (FL) write-in votes are not even counted

  • Bubba Jones||

    In most places you have to file paperwork to be a write in, then it's counted.

    They don't count random names.

  • BYODB||

    Amusingly, it does appear to be McConnell's plan to do a write-in.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Palin's Buttplug|11.15.17 @ 9:36AM|#
    Sessions could be a write in candidate for this election.
    Or he could be on the ballot in 2020.


    You just make no sense. Why do you even bother?

  • Memory Hole||

    Jeff Sessions couldnt beat Roy Moore and Roy Moore isn't resigning.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Jeff Sessions couldn't beat Roy Moore in Alabama, why?

    And why would Sessions need to beat Roy Moore? Sessions would be running against a Democrat.

    Are you drunk?

  • Memory Hole||

    Jeff Sessions is trending traitor on Breitbart as we speak. Try to keep up grandpaw.

  • Unlabelable MJGreen||

    When is it you imagine Sessions will run for Senate as the Republican candidate? In the special election that's four weeks away?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Memory Hole|11.15.17 @ 9:37AM|#
    Jeff Sessions couldnt beat Roy Moore and Roy Moore isn't resigning.


    Sessions is not resigning either.

    Some other Republican will just beat the Democrat in Alabama in the next special election for that Senate seat.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Moore's greatest mistake was wearing a jacket with a prominent collar gap.

    Disgusting, sir.

    Disgusting.

  • John||

    Maybe the chicks really dig it.

  • chemjeff||

    Tween fashion trends are so hard to figure out sometimes!

  • creech||

    Almost as bad as wearing a tie that comes down to the bottom of your fly!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Looks like a 3-button.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    I just purchased a three-button, which of course means that they are cool and stylish and pantydroppers, so the issue isn't the number of buttons, the issue is the collar gap.

    I mean c'mon.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Are they? I have some that I never wear anymore, but if you're telling me they're still viable choices... Skinny suits are moronic and I refuse to participate. It's a fad that will, in a few years, simply make it look like you're wearing a suit your parents bought you as a teenager and you've since gotten fat.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    I bought it from JCrew, so it must not not be in style. Also, I am taller, so three-buttons can always sort of work.

    By the way I apologize for lighting the Gilmore signal.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    He's a splitter and I have no time for splitters.

  • Rhywun||

    I remember when fads used to go away.

  • CE||

    I thought it was the stupid vest.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Lawyers for Alabama Judge Roy Moore sent a grammatically nuts, legally dubious, and all around batshit letter to a local news group and The Washington Post, threatening legal action.
    ENB, Looks like a Cease and Desist and Retraction letter to me.

    Its Defamation if you accuse someone of a crime without proof. Roy Moore's attorneys are saying the proof is not there.

    Expect a Demand Letter after the 5 days is up, listing a damage amount.

  • Bubba Jones||

    They carefully documented their sources and the limits of the allegations. They were careful to say that not sex occurred and that he would stop when asked firmly to stop.

    I don't see any sensationalism or undocumented accusations. He's a public figure, so I think they are going to have to prove malice and willful lying.

  • Unlabelable MJGreen||

    But think of the timing! THE TIMING!!

  • loveconstitution1789||

    And if the source is lying, the media is on the hook for defamation. There is clear negligence in not checking the accusation out and malice is blatant because it literally is an accusation to try and prevent someone from getting a job based on reputation.

    Truth is an absolute defense to defamation. If the accusation is truthful, then no problem. If the accusation is false, then there is a problem.

  • Adam330||

    Yeah good luck to them with that suit. If AL has a SLAP statute, I hope Roy Moore has deep pockets.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    SLAPP is on its last legs with defamation. The media has been away with printing defamatory statements for too long without any push back.

  • Zeb||

    But it's not as if the newspapers are just making it up from nothing. They do have evidence (albeit anecdotal). If anyone is defaming him, wouldn't it be the accusers?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    The media printed falsehoods. Hence the retraction request.

    If the WaPo does not retract the false accusation and it later comes out false or is determined false, the WaPo is on the hook.

    I would love for Roy Moore to own WaPo like Hulk Hogan owned Gawker.

    Sorry, but you cannot accuse people of crimes without proof.

  • Aloysious||

    Registering the Cable Channel RT as a Foreign Agent Is a Threat to Press Freedom

    Stigmatizing Russian broadcasting is the latest unnecessary escalation in the new Cold War. By Katrina vanden Heuvel
    The decision by the US Department of Justice (DOJ) to compel the Russian-state media outlet RT (an English-language cable news network) to register as a "foreign agent" is intended to not only stigmatize its reporting as foreign propaganda but also tar anyone who appears on its programs as Russian dupes.

    RT will register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) of 1938, the aim of which, according to the nonpartisan transparency watchdog Sunlight Foundation, was "To make it easier for federal counterespionage authorities to keep tabs on U.S.-based individuals and other groups helping to drum up support for the Nazi movement and keep America neutral in the war." Amendments added in 1966 shifted its focus to political activities, such as lobbying.
  • John||

    Joe Biden says the guy who shot the Texas mass shooter shouldn't have had a gun in the first place. Crazy Joe is going to crazy. it is what he does.

  • Domestic Dissident||

    So funny that Uncle Joe is running for president now, when he was too much of a fucking pussy to take on the Clintons.

    I know we're all supposed to believe he didn't run because his son died, but that's a bunch of bullshit.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    I wonder if the WaPo will wait to print criminal accusations about Biden until October 2020 and then stick to its position that the accusations are true?

  • creech||

    Who was vice president when the Air Force failed to report the shooter's felony convictions to the feds?

  • Ken Shultz||

    The media has become an unreliable narrator, but sometimes life isn't fair. It doesn't really matter if Moore did it or not--SoL means this isn't a criminal trial. It's just the court of public opinion--but in that court, you don't get to be innocent until proven guilty.

    If this were about a crime, that might be better since he could be exonerated if found "not guilty".

    If there's no way Moore can clear his name, that means he'll never stop being a political liability so long as he's in the senate. So long as he's in the senate, he'll be the guy who propositioned a 14 year-old girl.

  • Ken Shultz||

    I might have added . . .

    So long as Moore is in the senate, the Republican party will be the party that elected a guy who propositioned a 14-year old girl.

  • John||

    That is all true, but as long as he is in the Senate, I can't see why Moore or any of his supporters should care.

  • Ken Shultz||

    You're right.

    In fact, being an object of derision might endear him to the conservatives of Alabama.

  • Ken Shultz||

    People keep assuming that a Democrat will win if Moore survives until election day, but that isn't necessarily true.

    That's the way the world works inside the bubble--not necessarily in Alabama.

  • John||

    The last poll I saw had Moore up by 6 points. I have seen one poll that has him down by four but every other poll I have seen, all taken after the sex stuff broke, have him ahead by as many as 10 points.

    If you look at the reaction to this, it is been nothing but confirmation bias on both sides. I have yet to see anyone who believes the accusers who didn't already dislike Moore. And I have yet to see anyone who supported Moore who believes the accusers. It looks to me like the effect of all this will just be to get people who already hated Moore and were not going to vote for him to hate him more. Unless it convinces people who supported him to no longer do so, he still will win the election.

  • Rhywun||

    I'm Moore'd out. There's no point in taking a position until he is convicted of something.

  • John||

    I agree. We have a statue of limitations for a reason. It is impossible to judge the credibility of accusations that are this old. I have no idea what the truth here is. Anyone who does, either way, is just letting their politics determine their view of the truth.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    It's pretty easy to call dating teenagers who are twenty years younger than you while you are a powerful government agent unseemly.

  • Rhywun||

    Heh, OK. If "unseemly" was enough to turn me off, I would never vote for anybody. (Well, I don't vote anyway but you get my drift.)

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Okay then! Judging the criminality of this shit is pretty stupid - its just more moral depravity from a morally depraved individual.

  • John||

    For sure. But does that disqualify him from being Senator? Depends on how much you like him compared to his opponent. And that judgment is up to the voters of Alabama. Have the election and let the voters sort it out. That is about all you can do.

  • Rhywun||

    If anything, I expect we can look forward to accusations flying left and right during every election season from now on. Yay.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    But does that disqualify him from being Senator?

    Of course not.

    If anything, I expect we can look forward to accusations flying left and right during every election season from now on. Yay.

    Yay is right - I am all for putting a spotlight on the morally judgmental scumbags.

  • Rhywun||

    I am all for putting a spotlight on the morally judgmental scumbags.

    Do you really want to go there? You're basically calling for puritan squads or something. Don't think it will stop with politicians or other famous people.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    You're basically calling for puritan squads or something.

    We already have those.

    And to clarify, morally judgmental as in: you smoke marijuana you go to prison, or you are a prostitute or pay for a prostitute you go to prison, and so on.

  • Rhywun||

    Those are not in the same league as "I maybe or maybe didn't proposition a girl with her parents' permission 30 years ago".

  • Rhywun||

    We may be talking past each other.

    I agree, those scumbags need a spotlight. But I don't want a future where everyone walks around afraid of being called out for some crap that happened decades ago that isn't even illegal.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Yes, we are talking past each other.

    *hugs*

  • Zeb||

    But does that disqualify him from being Senator?

    Up to the voters, I guess. And the Senate after he is elected.

    I'm with Rhywun, I have no opinion on this whole thing. Not my problem and not my business.

  • John||

    I agree with you Zeb. It is up to the voters. What they do is their business. Whatever happens in the election should end this whole affair.

  • BYODB||

    That awkward moment when Libertarians, who normally would probably say that age of consent laws are bullshit, castigate a guy for kissing someone who was literally above the age of consent.

    Not a defense of Moore, per say, but rather an amusing observation about how Moore reveals some pretty funny double standards around here. It's basically a test to see if someone is a Republican or Democrat, or if they're a Libertarian or a Greenie.

    Of course, there is the accusation by someone who was 14 at the time so there is that. As far as I'm aware, that isn't the age of consent in Alabama. However, in that instance, we have 'libertarians' that want to punish Moore for allegations rather than proven harm.

    Is this the new standard we're using around here? I guess so. Considering how many are Clinton conspiracy theorists for unproven charges, maybe this is par for the course after all.

  • EscherEnigma||

    As the saying goes, "it's libertarian, not libertine". You can legally permit behaviour you find offensive.

    And seeing as the harshest punishment being discussed is losing an election, in not sure any lines are being crossed in this case.

  • BYODB||


    And seeing as the harshest punishment being discussed is losing an election, in not sure any lines are being crossed in this case.

    A fair point, it's just amusing to see libertarians argue that Moore is unfit for office because of accusations kissing a legal adult and accusations that he touched the breasts of a 14 year old who is now in their 50's.

    I shouldn't paint so broadly though, some are being honest in that they just intensely dislike Moore for his religious and social conservative views. It's probably just a case where it's simpler to castigate Moore for accusations of impropriety than it is to address the underlying political disagreements.

    The only reason it bothers me even a little bit is because once you've surrendered to the idea that any accusation whatsoever of sexual impropriety is automatically a disqualifier, sans any actual evidence, than it opens the door to a never ending revolving door of distraction based on petty and unproven criteria.

    It's already been pointed out many times before that this type of accusation is a political tool, so it makes it very difficult for me to believe these types of allegations without a shred of actual proof.

    Perhaps it's just a 'boy cries wolf' problem?

  • Bubba Jones||

    The polls I saw say they were taken before the news came out.

    This will be interesting. I wonder how many people will express outrage in polls, but vote for him anyway.

  • John||

    http://thehill.com/homenews/ca.....enate-race

    This one was not and has him up by six.

  • Bubba Jones||

    I look forward to the Dem outrage if/when Moore wins.

  • Bubba Jones||

    I predict that if Moore loses, it will be seen as a referendum on Trump, but if he wins, it will not be seen as evidence that Trump is so popular that he can get a pedophile elected.

  • EscherEnigma||

    Eh.

    If he loses, Republicans will say he was just a bad candidate and/or the victim of a "liberal media" smear campaign. Democrats will call it a referendum on Trump.

    If he wins, Republicans will say it's a referendum on Trump's success and that Republican voters are to smart for the "liberal media". Democrats will say it's proof that Republicans have no standards are as base and immoral as Republicans accuse Democrats of being.

    Trying to discern anything true from all the nose will be... Difficult.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Papa John's apologizes for blaming disappointing sales on NFL protests

    http://www.cleveland.com/enter....._blam.html

    Just because you heard it on redneck AM radio doesn't mean its true, idiots.

  • DJF||

    They are not apologizing because it was wrong but because it was "divisive" whatever that means

  • Domestic Dissident||

    Smart businessmen stay miles away from politics, because it's stupid to pointlessly alienate half of your potential customer base. Even scumbags like Weigel there eat pizza.

  • DJF||

    True but when the business they have associated with via advertising is being political then they must adjust the deal. We don't know what happened between Papa and NFL. Maybe Papa got a better deal from the NFL to make up for the loss of business.

    What gets reported and what actually happens is often incomplete

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    Basically what my CEO said at the managers conferance. Claimed he didn't read daily news. I think it's bull shit, everyone has opinions, but it's the smart position for him to hold.

  • Bubba Jones||

    It's amazing how sticking to the premise of "The CEO of X has no political opinions" can train the person in that office to actually have no political opinions.

  • BYODB||

    Yeah, as a CEO you wouldn't want to be political because you'll need to kiss the ass of both parties so they don't try and shut you down every election, or every other election. Business is apolitical because they need to curry favor with the current king regardless of what letter may or may not be after their names.

  • CE||

    You shouldn't have to apologize when you're right.

  • Conchfritters||

    They should apologize because their pizza sucks.

  • Tony||

    Nazi pizza actually has a nice ring to it. Sounds Italian.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    You would like something that was made by socialists.

  • Aloysious||

    Russia and America Are Conducting Massive Nuclear Exercises (and No One Cares)



    Nuclear weapons exercises in both Russia and the United States go mysteriously unreported in leading American newspapers.
    Lyle J. Goldstein
    Both Russia and the United States undertook major tests of their respective nuclear forces at the end of October 2017. Oddly, that was not sufficiently newsworthy and no coverage appeared in America's leading newspapers. It's particularly strange—and even ironic—because the steady drip of articles alleging every type of Russian conspiracy, from manipulation of social media to meetings with senior Trump administration officials to the supposed attempted penetration of voting systems, has been front-page news every day, playing no small part in accelerating the downward spiral in U.S.-Russia relations.
  • Aloysious||

    One half expects a spate of new revelations detailing the current administration leaders' unexplained fondness for borsht and pelmeni. All joking aside, a simple miscalculation in this most crucial bilateral strategic relationship could rather quickly destroy both nations and end life on earth. As long as American media outlets do not cover these nuclear exercises, which are ominous developments, they seemingly can escape any culpability for bringing on the "new Cold War," its catastrophic risks and the related consequences.
  • John||

    Is there anything more stupid and reckless than needlessly stirring up tension between nuclear Super Powers? These people are so evil and stupid they would risk nuclear annihilation to win today's news cycle.

  • DJF||

    Unless the two government put out press releases then it doubtful if anything would be reported. Most military reporting is based on the governments own press release.

  • Rhywun||

    Party like it's 1983!

  • Crusty Juggler||

    *rolls up jacket sleeves*

    I'm ready.

  • colorblindkid||

    While Trump is an idiot who refuses to say anything bad about Putin, his administration has arguably been more confrontational with Putin than Obama's was.

  • gaoxiaen||

    I have always opposed the Forbin Project.

  • CE||

    It was a colossal mistake.

  • Memory Hole||

    No link but "Trump just awarded a no bid security contract to a Putin affilated security firm to provide security for the US Embassies in Russia".

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Well, he owes Putin big time. Hell, Trump even played kissy-face with the Chi-Comms after telling all his idiot fans how he was going to go after them for currency manipulation.

  • DJF||

    What does "Putin affiliated" mean?

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Bill Clinton should have resigned

    Sadbeard (an amazing nickname, so kudos again to the Glibber who came up with it) ftw!

  • John||

    Gee, I guess 20 years later when it no longer matters and we want Clinton off the stage anyway and our defense of him has become problematic, we can admit we were wrong.

    Go fuck yourself, Yglesias. You nasty little retard.

  • Juice||

    He was a little kid back then. What does he know?

  • John||

    Not much.

  • Bubba Jones||

    Clinton was not shamed into resigning,

    Clintons have no shame.

    What they should have argued was something simpler: A president who uses the power of the Oval Office to seduce a 20-something subordinate is morally bankrupt and contributing, in a meaningful way, to a serious social problem that disadvantages millions of women throughout their lives.

    Senators were not going to hold themselves to that standard...

    They went after perjury because it was a morally neutral argument of "fact" that they thought would be sufficient to convict him. This reminds me of the global warming arguments about the details of temperature and anthropogenicity but ignore the strategic question of cost/benefit of mitigation.

    Funny thing is that if they had held to their feminist principles, Al Gore could have saved the world. /s

  • Tony||

    Now will people please stop saying the left is ignoring Bill Clinton?

    And now will the right start paying attention to Trump, whose sexual assault allegations come in indexed volumes?

  • BYODB||

    As soon as Hillary divorces his ass, I think it will be safe to stop talking about it.

    I do note that you still can't understand the difference between an allegation and a forensic fact though.

  • John||

    http://nypost.com/2017/11/14/r.....t-victims/

    Congress had a secret sexual harassment payoff fund. Awfully convenient how the national insanity over Roy Moore has pushed this little item off the front page. I mean Jesus Tapdancing Christ, how depraved can these assholes be?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I recall when Mark Foley was chasing the young male pages around the Capitol. Maybe he caught a few.

  • colorblindkid||

    What's great is that this absolutely included Nancy Pelosi's tenure as Speaker. I'm exicted to watch the press ask her why she paid women to keep quiet about sexual abuse in the House. Oh wait, nobody will ever ask her. They're too busy worrying about the dress code that evil woman-hating Paul Ryan enforced (like Pelosi before).

  • chemjeff||

    No there's nothing great about it. Sexual harrassment and sexual assault, not to mention secret payoff funds, aren't great even if you think you can pin it on your political adversaries.

  • Crusty Juggler||

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Oh dear!

  • Crusty Juggler||

    Bening: 'We need more films about older women and sex'

    My God.

    Also, I am sure there will be a film about whatever Bill O'Reilly did to Lis Wiehl, so that will be fun.

  • lap83||

    Not that she's referring to anything unseemly, but wouldn't it be so like Hollywood for the main takeaway from the sexual harassment news to be "There aren't enough women in power to take advantage of young male actors! Uneven playing field!"

  • Crusty Juggler||

    I can't to read stories about Doris Roberts forcing young actors to watch her masturbate.

  • Crusty Juggler||

    "She led me into her dressing room, where she disrobed and forced me to spit on her hand..."

  • John||

    Nothing sells tickets like graphic scenes of old people having sex. Jesus Christ is Hollywood doomed.

  • ||

    Nothing sells tickets like graphic scenes of old people having sex.

    Also, re-orienting your business to cater to your smallest and least affable demographics because of the quips of a horny old crone looking for more work sounds like a bad idea all the way around.

    Grandpa *might* get out of his chair to see Annette Bening naked, but the last time he went to the nickelodeon it cost him 5 bees.

  • John||

    The money in movies has always been in getting young people to turn up. Who is up for that Kathy Bates Elliot Gould sex romp?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Annette Bening has not aged well but in the 90s she was smoking hot in a classy way.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Fox News host debunks 'Uranium One' conspiracy, viewers melt down on Twitter

    https://goo.gl/z94cQm

    Even Jeff Sessions knows this nutty wingnut CT is as crazy as Pizzagate.

  • chemjeff||

    I just love some of the Twitter responses. They DEMAND that Fox News be anti-Hillary all the time even to the tune of promoting crazy conspiracies.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    John fell for that bullshit.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    FOX news is not conservative anyway.

    They just go for ratings.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Butt and Jeff fell for that bullshit.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Roy Moore scandal reaches new level of crazy with anti-Semitic 'Bernie Bernstein' robocall

    http://mashable.com/2017/11/14.....TwwH1sniqw

    False flag robo-calls with scary Jewy name!

  • chemjeff||

    I know, right? I saw that on Twitter. Someone commented, "What, the name Shlomo Jewgold was taken or something?"

  • notJoe||

    That's what I appreciate about you Butt Plugger -- you post links to back up your moonbattery. You're not like Tony, who just makes shit up and runs away when asked for his sources. I've learned a thing or two from your references.

    Although, linking to Weigel articles doesn't give help your credibility much. That guy's just an idiot. Why do you bother reading him? Might as well read poetry scrawled in feces on bathroom stalls.

  • ||

    OT: Best M*litary Evah!

    Has Reason run anything covering the fact that the Army has (re-)cratered it's recruiting standards or can we assume that they're sticking with the "Trannies are people too/We won't lower standards." line? I could see how they overlooked the story, it's not like we've been fighting any perpetual wars or there's been much in the way of mentally-unstable former service members falling through the cracks recently.

  • Rhywun||

    It's interesting that "I cut myself" and "I smoked weed once and got caught" are equally not OK here. WTF happens if they really need to increase the number of troops?!

  • John||

    And this kind of shit is so overdiagnosed, my guess is that there is nothing wrong with most of the people who fit in this category.

  • CE||

    A draft. For some reason, our great libertarian hope of a president has not ended registration.

  • John||

    http://www.washingtontimes.com.....surgeries/

    Nothing says military efficiency like paying for sex change operations. It looks like Reason has finally found a defense expenditure it can support.

  • Rhywun||

    The military seems to be more of a culture-war battleground that any other government agency. That is not something I expected to see.

  • EscherEnigma||

    Eh, it dates back pretty far. Take any "culture war" issue and you'll find it playing out in the military sooner or later.

    Segregation, suitability of blacks for leadership roles, sodomy laws, adultery laws, women in the workplace, birth control, abortion, immigration... Name a"culture war" topic, and there's an armed forced tie-in.

    Hell, did you know that military courts are one of the few places you can be protected for adultery these days?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Prosecuted. Yes. It is against the UCMJ to commit adultery.

    Its bad for morale when one military attacks or kills another military person where this is cheating going on. Plus, nobody wants to be in the shit and here some stateside military chump is banging your wife or husband.

  • EscherEnigma||

    Yeah, prosecuted. My phone's autocorrect hates me today.

    Point being: Culture wars and the military have a long history, even when the military itself largely doesn't care about the issue.

  • Michael S. Langston||

    You can be prosecuted for failing to meet economic obligations, such as racking up large amounts of debt which you are unable to pay.

    Adultery is just another failed obligation.

    Having said that, I think both are actionable in the military because things like these can be exploited by outside actors putting safety, security and classified information at risk.

  • Tony||

    You're upset because they want you to be upset so you ignore their looting of the country. And nothing gets knuckle-dragging morons upset like tits on men.

  • John||

    Go fuck yourself Tony. The tax payers shouldn't be subsidizing your depravity.

  • Tony||

    Name the last medical procedure the military funded that upset you.

  • EscherEnigma||

    My circumcision.

    I mean hell with asking me (minutes old and all that jazz), they didn't even ask my *parents*. Just part of the "routine procedure".

  • EscherEnigma||

    More broadly though, excellent lifelong medical care is part of the promised compensation for our war-fighters. While we don't always succeed in meeting that promise, it's not a gift or entitlement, it's *earned*.

  • Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot||

    LOL. John talking about depravity. LOL.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    He sees what you, Butt, Tony and other lefties post on here.

    You guys are fine with socialism after all those murders, rapes, underage marriages, underage diddling, and genocide.

    Its fun to watch you clowns.

  • BYODB||


    People with a history of "self-mutilation," bipolar disorder, depression and drug and alcohol abuse can now seek waivers to join the Army under an unannounced policy enacted in August, according to documents obtained by USA TODAY.

    The decision to open Army recruiting to those with mental health conditions comes as the service faces the challenging goal of recruiting 80,000 new soldiers through September 2018. To meet last year's goal of 69,000, the Army accepted more recruits who fared poorly on aptitude tests, increased the number of waivers granted for marijuana use and offered hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses.

    That's basically exactly what I figured. Not enough 'patriots' are 'volunteering' so the bar is being lowered and legitimately crazy people are becoming more attractive as recruits.

    As far as I can figure, that's bad news all around. The battlefield already causes mental health issues, putting someone in that role that already has them is asking for a bad end.

  • perlchpr||

    Good for Zimbabwe, I hope.

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