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16-Year-Old Commits Suicide After School Cop Threatens Him with Child Porn Charges

"I think they wanted to scare him straight. Instead, they scared him to death."

Corey Walgren and fatherCorey Walgren and father via Corey Walgren / TwitterIt took school and police officials just a few minutes to extinguish 16-year-old Corey Walgren's promising future. All they did was utter two words: child pornography.

Corey, a junior at Naperville North High School in Naperville, Illinois, was a perfectly normal, social, good-looking 16-year-old. He was an honor roll student with dreams of attending a Big Ten college. He had typical interests for a teenager boy: hockey, fishing, and, yes, girls.

Corey committed suicide in January, just hours after a school resource officer confronted him about an alleged illegal item on his cell phone—a recording of Corey having sex with a female classmate. The girl had informed a dean at the school that she believed Corey had played the recording for his friends (it's not clear whether he did), which prompted the authorities to summon Corey to the principal's office. They called his mother and told both of them that Corey was being investigated for possession of child pornography.

Corey left the meeting, headed to a nearby parking garage, and jumped.

That's all according to a heartbreaking story in The Chicago Tribune, which obtained police records of the case and spoke with Corey's parents about his death.

"I think they wanted to scare him straight," Corey's mother, Maureen Walgren, told the Tribune. "Instead, they scared him to death."

Naperville Police Chief Robert Marshall offered his condolences but declined to criticize the process that resulted in Corey's death.

"At the time of the incident, the Police Department determined that the school resource officer followed proper policies and procedures," he told the Tribune. School district officials made similar remarks.

The Tribune story casts some doubt on this assertion. It isn't entirely clear that the school resource officer had legal cause to question Corey without first asking a parent for permission. But most young people are not well-versed in constitutional law. They don't understand that talking to a cop isn't like talking to a regular school official, that it involves forfeiting certain rights.

The video recording was apparently of such poor quality that it was impossible to make out any of its images. But under Illinois's age of consent laws, one person under the age of 17 can be charged with sexual abuse if he had sexual contact with another person under the age of 17, even if they're both the same age. Two 16-year-olds in a fully consensual relationship could be charged with abusing each other.

The authorities probably wouldn't have charged Corey—in most cases, accused teens are able to work out plea deals involving probation and diversion programs. Note, though, that these deals are still incredibly disruptive of young people's lives and education plans.

Maybe Corey walked out of the meeting terrified that he was about to be branded a sex offender for the rest of his life. Maybe he was worried that he would no longer graduate on time or go to college. Maybe he just didn't want to face his parents. We'll never know exactly what Corey was thinking when he decided to end his life.

We do know that the practice of employing police officers to patrol public schools is fraught with abuse. More kids are arrested, and even jailed, for behavior that would have earned them detention in saner times.

We also know that treating kids like sex criminals for taking inappropriate pictures and videos of each other is bad for everyone involved. Teenagers should be allowed to make mistakes, learn better behavior, and move on without ending up on the sex offender registry—without feeling like their lives are over before they've even finished growing up.

On a more encouraging note, Austin Yabandith—a high school kid facing child pornography and sexual assault charges stemming from a consensual relationship—will graduate this Saturday. Austin's situation was improved by the publicity generated from Reason's coverage of his case, which helped the family raise money to hire a lawyer. "You did the story justice and helped us out a whole lot," Austin's mother wrote to me.

Photo Credit: Corey Walgren and father via Corey Walgren / Twitter

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  • SomeGuy||

    I have mixed feelings.

    1: They kid shouldnt be a bitch and jump the gun.

    2: cops should be POS and try to ruin peoples lives over shit that shouldnt even be a crime.

    Both are assholes.

  • SomeGuy||

    shouldnt*

  • Quixote||

    Yes, this is even more inappropriate than the suicide of Aaron Swartz, who at least took the time to learn the details of how many crimes he had unwittingly committed and the years he was facing in federal prison.

    Others have more appropriately waited until they were actually jailed to hang themselves, and there are even some who have had the decency to put the decision off until they have been released after spending several years in isolation for crimes that the fake media claims they did not commit.

    And what is there to be said of the Trolls of the Net, who we would clearly be better off without, and who obstinately refuse to do something that in the end is really quite simple?

    And, far worse than all of these criminals is the case of the New York appellate judge who apparently took her own life a couple of months ago, despite having courageously written (only days after the death of her brother) the important decision in our nation's leading criminal "satire" case. Surely no one here would dare to defend the "First Amendment dissent" of a single, isolated judge in that case, who is oddly still alive even though he is now well into his 80s? See the documentation at:

    https://raphaelgolbtrial.wordpress.com/

  • Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"||

    The fuck is wrong with you?

  • SomeGuy||

    the kid was a bitch and killed himself before ever being arrested....why are you retarded? The shit had a good chance of blowing over.

    WTF would you kill yourself before anything actually happens?

    dumbass

  • Bgoptmst||

    "Kid" ... I hate when kids don't act like adults. Bummer isn't it. Wish they popped out working on a 401k and working 40 hours a week and weren't so irresponsible.

  • No Yards Penalty||

    SomeGuy,
    You are a cunt.
    That is all.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    If I were that kid's father, I would personally go execute the cop, or arrange to have it done. No mercy for that shitbag.

  • NashTiger||

    Well, then, if I were the girl's father, I would personally execute the kid. Under LOTS No Mercy doctrine

    A story about a 16yo girl committing suicide because a classmate recorded them having sex without her knowledge and then showed it to all their friends, or maybe uploaded it to a porn site, probably doesn't make Reason Magazine

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    But the girl in question clearly wasn't that upset, was she?

  • MJBinAL||

    Why would you be upset that he had sex with your daughter? Don't like people having sloppy seconds behind you?

    Asshat

  • NM Dave||

    Did you read the part about there being no proof or indication that he had actually shared the video?

    Anyway, he's dead so I'm sure you're thrilled about it.

  • MJBinAL||

    Me too.

  • NM Dave||

    He has no heart, and no moral code.

  • Atlas Slugged||

    I'm sure you were a total badass in high school who never felt anxiety or stress.

    ...asshole

  • Cynical Asshole||

    Yeah, SomeGuy would have totally stood up to the cop, the principal, the guidance counselor and whoever else was in the room threatening him with life ruining felony charges because he wasn't just a badass at the age of 16, he was a10th level wizard of ass-kickery. He would have totally stayed perfectly calm, asked for a lawyer, and then walked out of the room with his middle fingers in the air while blaring "We're Not Gonna Take It" on his phone.

  • Atlas Slugged||

    On a side note, why can we not have candidates awesome enough to use "We're Not Gonna Take it" as their campaign theme???

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Because using an anti-establishment song to become part of the establishment would be in poor taste.

  • mortiscrum||

    Also, that song sucks ass.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    It hasn't stood the test of time. Plus those of us who heard it when it first came out are now in our 40s and 50s, and we look ridiculous when we sing along with it now.

  • Atlas Slugged||

    Are you saying Dee Snider is no longer cool?

    Good day to you Sir!

  • skunkman||

    Dee was never cool

  • Jimothy||

    I look awesome singing along with it, thank you very much.

  • SomeGuy||

    ummmm...i would have enough balls to wait and see what happened. I wouldnt just off myself the first second something bad would happen.

    innocent until proven guilty. The day I get reamed at trial and my life was destroyed would be a better time to hang or cut myself.

    If i was that much of a bitch I would have killed myself ages ago either in HS or in the USMC but I didnt and retired.

    So go fuck yourself.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    You fucked up. Just apologize and beg everyone's forgiveness.

  • AER1972||

    No fuck yourself... today just the hint of child pornography on your record is enough to ruin a life forever. Easy to hide behind your keyboard bravado but I can't imagine being a 16 year old kid facing life targeted as a pedophile regardless of the situation. I would imagine he would have gladly taken the path of USMC boot camp maybe even facing combat rather than being designated as child abusing pervert (albeit wrongly). Whatever the kid did regarding the actual video he didn't deserve to be given a sentence like that.
    I think the cops went over the line and will have to deal with it. Naperville is a upper middle class community with little crime and I am sure the cops are eager for some real action. So out of boredom they choice to hard nose this kid and it ended badly. The father should sue their ass off.

  • SomeGuy||

    I woulkd have waited until after the trial to kill myself and gladly waste tax payer money and make sure I was going to actually go to jail for it. The kid wasnt even arrested. Why the fuck would you kill yourself before even being arrested?

    fuck your dumb.

  • Ship of Theseus||

    Whose dumb? My dumb?

    Oooh, I see, *you're* dumb, shitstain.

  • SomeGuy||

    I actually did figuratively give the finger to the teachers quite often as a kid. Teachers generally hated me because i called them on their BS.

    Was suspended and got detentions out of principle as a kid.

  • No Yards Penalty||

    SomeDouche,
    I doubt anyone hear is going to complain if you kill yourself.

  • MJBinAL||

    We might cheer though.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    SomeGuy is apparently not a regular reader of Reason, and is blissfully unaware of the fact that child porn charges can permanently and humiliatingly wreck someone's life, even if they themselves are also still legally a child.

  • SomeGuy||

    no i am and he wasn't even charges or arrested or have a trial date. Killing yourself should be after those events.....the kid jumped the gun....that is a fact.

  • Don't look at me.||

    Once the process is started, it rarely ends well.

  • MJBinAL||

    Listen to the description. Unlike you, a budding bad ass apparently, this kid was mild manners, great student, obedient, honor roll, athlete. Had a girl friend and they together, had sex. Probably fanticized about marrying the girl one day. Some do.

    Now here he is being threatened by a police officer with losing it all, being disgraced, future destroyed, years in jail, never seeing his girl friend again.

    At that age, and that description would have described pretty well except for the sex with the girlfriend .... and that was a close thing more than once. Would I have committed suicide? I hope not ... but I KNOW I would have been terrified and thinking about it.

  • MJBinAL||

    described ME, I meant to say

  • croaker||

    Even if aquitted.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Calling a child that kills himself an asshole is lame.

    Thumbs down.

  • Mickey Rat||

    If he did what the girl accused him of doing with the video, then he was an asshole.

    That he killed himself over the fallout from that action would not change the garbage nature of his action (again, if he did it).

  • Ken Shultz||

    This is a real person we're talking about and he has friends and family who probably are reading these comments.

    Speaking ill of the dead is a dick move under normal circumstances. Speaking ill of a child who commits suicide is a dick move squared.

    Also, you don't hit women.

  • gaoxiaen||

    Also, you don't hit women. Unless they like it.

  • Mickey Rat||

    No, I see this as another example of "don't blame the victim" virtue signalling. His death does not change that he may have wronged the girl he had sex with in a rather self-centered fashion. She is a real person too.

    Also, was he old enough to be having sex and making videos of it or was he a child?

  • dantheserene||

    "Also, was he old enough to be having sex and making videos of it or was he a child?"

    Old enough to have sex with video in reality, young enough to be a child under the law as a victim, old enough to charged as perpetrator of a crime treated as one step below murder.

  • ||

    His death does not change that he may have wronged the girl he had sex with in a rather self-centered fashion. She is a real person too.

    Yup. And real persons sort that shit out before they get naked, or before they turn the phone/camera on, or before they put their clothes back on, or after the first time they watch the video, or before they even get to school, or before they run into their friends, or after they run into their friends but before they go to the administration...

    There's no evidence she didn't consent to anything up to and including the sharing of the video, which is precisely why the child pornography charges are idiotic and, in this case, *victimless* if not entirely baseless.

  • Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"||

    I think it's best to speculate wildly about the sexual motivations of teenagers.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Mickey Rat was never a teenager. He was born 35 years old and wearing a suit.

  • Mickey Rat||

    I looked quite dapper in a suit when I was a small child, though I dislike wearing them.

    However, it strrikes as cognitively dissonant to claim a sixteen year old is mature enough enough for mildly kinky sexual activities and that they are too childish to be held responsible when they make bad choices.

  • Tionico||

    quite the condemnation of how we as a culture raise our kids. In the earlier days of this country "children" were far more capable and mature and responsible than what we see today. Paul Revere was taking illegal action against the British tyrannical goon squads starting at 16, and in case you can't remember, he was 40 or so the night of his famous ride. "Children" often married at 15, 16, 17, girls often a bit younger than that. I've known women in my lifetime that married at 14, 15.. and NOT because they were pregnant, either. No, honourable marriages, one of them lasting 75 years of sweetheart life together. The one at 14 was widowed in her fifties.... frontier days found many 14 year old boys, and sometimes girls, taking care of the homestead with Mama and the Littles cause Dad was either off to some wars, business, or dead. My Dad drove the schoolbus when he was 14. Kids used to lie about their age and join the military at 15, go to sea as a cabin boy at 13, learn the ropes, become captains after some years. WHAT are we missing as a culture, the young acting like children well into their 30's?

  • Headache||

    In my day, the judge would have said "Son, you have a choice, join the Army or go to jail". What we need now is a long drawn out war to send a troubled kid to. Oh Wait.

    Never mind.

  • Argyle Pajamas||

    But how would that personally enrich the judge and the attorneys while travestying justice?

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    Yes, being threatened with a bogus life destroying felony is definitely being 'held responsible'.

  • ||

    I think it's best to speculate wildly about the sexual motivations of teenagers.

    As a past time, legal precept, or moral imperative/axiom? I mean, I know your personal answer, but what's your point or what are you suggesting?

  • Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"||

    I am suggesting that is slightly - slightly, mind you - unsavory to read about the suicide of a teenager, and then immediately drag out your "sexual jump to conclusions mat" in order to theorize what may or may not have happened in order to project your own preconceived bias.

  • Mickey Rat||

    The story is about whether they school handled a complaint by the girl against the boy in an appropriate manner. It does not do to make a judgement about that while erasing that the boy may have done something worthy of some kind of reprimand.

  • ||

    theorize what may or may not have happened in order to project your own preconceived bias.

    I'm arguing neutrality or assumption of innocence. Aren't we opposed to eroding these principles specifically for the sake of teh chillunz?* Isn't that specifically the point of the article? The incident occurred in January, what's the good taste statute of limitations?

    *Notes thread for having offended Crusty's sensibilities.

  • Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"||

    *Notes thread for having offended Crusty's sensibilities.

    Yes, this is too edgy for me.

  • Mickey Rat||

    No evidence aside from her objecting to him allegedly sharing the video.

  • ||

    No evidence aside from her objecting to him allegedly sharing the video.

    You do realize you put both 'alleged' and 'evidence' in the same sentence in this fashion, right?

    He shows his friends a YouTube video fully complying respecting any and all privacy wishes or contracts she may or may not have communicated to him. Her indomitable guilt and complete lack of agency, not to mention common courtesy, causes her to flee to the administration and *he's* the asshole?

  • Mickey Rat||

    Her objection is evidence that she did not consent to sharing the video. Whether or not it was shared is in dispute. And sharing it would be a dick move without her explicit consent.

  • ||

    Her objection is evidence that she did not consent to sharing the video.

    No it's not. I know because I've never lied about anything in my life. Also, all the money I've ever stolen, it was legally mine in the first place, I was just asking all those people to hold it for me. I mean, I may not have been perfectly clear in every single case but you know what I mean, right? Do you understand what I'm doing and saying or can I put all this up for the internet to judge?

  • Mickey Rat||

    "Evidence" is not the same thing as "definitive proof".

    Her objecting is evidence that she objected.

  • ||

    Her objecting is evidence that she objected.

    alleged - adj. - said, without proof,...

    No, it's not. It's not even clear she knew what she was objecting to. I object!

  • MJBinAL||

    His death does not change that he may have wronged the girl he had sex with in a rather self-centered fashion. She is a real person too.

    I must have missed the "he raped her" in this story. Two 16 year olds, dating, and he "wronged her". Why isn't it "she wronged him"? I see two teens making a mistake giving in to teenage raging hormones. I also see a modern culture that makes taking videos of every damned thing ok.

    Based on the story, it seems she was not even upset about the video that she had to know about at the time, but rather she thought he has shared it. Sounds like it was taken knowingly, "just for us!". Dumb move ... for both of them.

  • ||

    If he did what the girl accused him of doing with the video, then he was an asshole.

    Right, because we've never had a case of a manipulative cunt effecting buyers remorse through the bureaucracy come across these forums before.

    We don't know what happened. They both may've been drunk or stoned (or just dumb teens) and were both similarly embarrassed that the video even existed.

    The fact that she seems to have gone to the administration first, rather than to him, is just as indicative that she's an asshole willing to forfeit at least some of her agency to get her way.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    I'm going with the "dumb teens" one, because teenagers are dumb and do just the dumbest shit all the time without thinking through consequences, and thus it has always been and always will be.

  • Quo Usque Tandem||

    That is what makes them teenagers, as we all were at one time and if truth be told did our share of dumb shit.

    Still here by the grace of God, thank you.

    And applying "child pornography" to these types of situations is just plain assed stupid.

  • Hank Phillips||

    The Republican Party of South Carolina wants the girl to change her major to law and replace Seneca Solicitor Chrissy Adams. Any bitch that can get a frisky teenager to kill HIMSELF without state troopers needing to expend any expensive ammo is GO-Pee centerfold material.

  • Finrod||

    Hank Phillips blows goats. I have proof.

  • MJBinAL||

    Hey Hey!

    No need to disparage goats here.

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    Are your posts performance art Hank? Or are you really this fucked up?

  • You're Kidding||

    Can't cocks have buyer's remorse as well? I know I did pretty badly once.

  • ||

    Yes, but they're spineless, monstrous, lumbering, thunderous, bludgeoning, or suffocating, not manipulative.

  • NashTiger||

    So, calling a 16yo an "asshole" is beyond the pale here, but calling one a "manipulative cunt" is OK.
    I can't see how she manipulated him into recording her on his phone and showing it to others

  • MJBinAL||

    Nope, they are both wrong.

  • Eric Bana||

    Mickey,

    The issue is that SomeGuy called the kid an asshole for committing suicide. That's reprehensible.

  • SomeGuy||

    no i said he offed himself too soon. If he had gone to trial and was getting butt fucked in trial i would understand him offing himself but he did it before ever even getting arrested.

    There was no reason to kill himself yet plain and simple.

  • You're Kidding||

    Teenagers are not rational. The slightest fear sends them into a tizzy.

  • No Yards Penalty||

    SomeUselessFaggot,
    Just stop. You shot out of the gate looking like the world's No. 1 asshole. And you've widened your lead.

  • ||

    no i said he offed himself too soon. If he had gone to trial and was getting butt fucked in trial i would understand him offing himself but he did it before ever even getting arrested.

    You assume his issue was strictly with the school. Even if it was, rather literally, the process is the punishment.

    Shit, there are entire genres of literature and cultures founded around the malaise or depression wrought from the process being the punishment let alone more common tropes about suicidal infatuations and/or unrequited love.

    I can fathom the notion that he should've waited (duh.) but that doesn't exactly require the aspersions and the aspersions don't exactly bolster your case for him waiting.

  • Paloma||

    And am I to understand that the girl who complained could ALSO be charged?

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    Yep.

  • SomeGuy||

    I said he was a bitch for jumping the gun. The kid wasn't even arrested yet. christ your dumb.

  • No Yards Penalty||

    SomeShithead,
    Kill yourself.

  • Eric Bana||

    @SomeGuy

    Fuck off, shitstain.

  • SomeGuy||

    fuck you. He killed himself too soon. Was he arrested? jailed? charged? had a trail yet?

    Nope....so killed himself needlessly.

    He killed himself way too fucking soon. Even pussies in USMC boot camp at least wait a month or two before jumping off the 3rd story. They are at least already in that shit hole. They didn't try to kill themselves in delayed entry program.

    The kid offed himself too soon plain and simple.

  • Finrod||

    Please do us all a favor and stay away from all children.

  • SomeGuy||

    I hate kids especially bitchy ones that jump the gun and kill themselves before even being arrested.

    Terrible thought processing skills and judgement.

  • Inigo Montoya||

    "Terrible thought processing skills and judgement."

    As opposed to all those suicides, teen or adult, where the person is thinking very rationally and logically?

    Please stop before you dig yourself any deeper of a hole.

  • MJBinAL||

    I am having a hard time imagining him digging a deeper hole. I suppose I could be selling him short.

  • No Yards Penalty||

    SomeFuckwit
    You sound like a guy desperately trying to prove he's the biggest asshole in his peer group.
    You win. You can stop now.

  • MJBinAL||

    True.

    We grant you the title. There has been a lot of competition, but you clinched it.

  • Argyle Pajamas||

    Go play in traffic. You're wasting oxygen for the rest of us.

  • UnrepentantCurmudgeon||

    A long-time friend of mine was an attorney in juvenile court. He took his PC in for virus cleaning and general tune-up. The shop took it upon themselves to pick thru the hard drive and found files of nude women. They thought some of the women might be underage and called the sheriffs. They in turn arrested him for possession of child porn. He was immediately terminated from his position in court. Two days later the sheriffs determined (a) that the pictures were probably downloaded without his knowledge, and (b) that the women were probably not underage. Nonetheless his career was ruined and he had been forced to leave town (small town) in disgrace.

    This stuff is not funny. Victims' lives are ruined even when they are mature enough not to throw themselves off of tall buildings.

  • Quo Usque Tandem||

    I recommend using them for target practice, Use tracer rounds and get an extension cord to plug them in and shoot them while they're running.

  • Microaggressor||

    The shop took it upon themselves to pick thru the hard drive and found files of nude women. They thought some of the women might be underage and called the sheriffs.

    Outstanding customer service. How are these fuckwits still in business?

  • ||

    This was SOP at a Best Buy I know of.

  • Atlas Slugged||

    I don't have the link but didn't Reason report Best Buy working with the Feds to identify potential child pornography consumers?

  • Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"||

  • SomeGuy||

    shit thanks for posting that. I never saw that.

  • No Yards Penalty||

    SomeAsshole,
    You haven't killed yourself yet? I am disappoint.

  • Hank Phillips||

    Say thirteen Hail Mary's and copy the Republican Platform plank on smut a thousand times, you godless atheist libertarian!

  • Finrod||

    You really should be careful posting online those pictures of you sucking off a horse.

  • SomeGuy||

    yep shit happens and he at least killed pussy out. I would have sued.

    Also never take your shit in with a HDD with data on it. I post constantly on tech forms about encrypting data and cryptowiping on a regular basis due to how internet caching works.

  • SomeGuy||

    yep shit happens and he at least didn't* pussy out.

  • You're Kidding||

    Wait? Wouldn't there be recourse against the shop for this?

    They ruined him while invading his privacy in a non-public transaction. Even if not criminal, there would certainly be civil liability.

  • MJBinAL||

    This is common. Do NOT, EVER, take your computer to Best Buy Geek Squad. They are FORMALLY partnered with the FBI. They ARE going to go through your hard drive and turn you in for anything they suspect.

    Even they refer you by mistake (I believe this is how it came out), it is going to be painful and best avoided.

  • Argyle Pajamas||

    I smell bacon!

  • 1980-f||

    SomeGuy, you really should have thought more than you did before posting your first point.It makes you out to be ignorant and prone to judge in hindsight, which you're not, are you?

  • ||

    I'm sure Officer Sociopath felt so bad about it he resigned and found work in a different industry.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    The wrong person jumped off the garage in this story.

  • Cynical Asshole||

    You misspelled "went straight home and fucked his wife while she laid there unsatisfied*."

    *[Archer voice] I had something better for this... something about throwing a hotdog down a hallway.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    +1 Vespa parked in a three-car garage

  • Argyle Pajamas||

    Can we all agree that Officer Sociopath is a genuinely horrible person? Same for any accomplices he may have had in the school bureaucracy.

    It would be altogether just if fate saw to it that he was run over by a public bus. Or struck by lightening. Or swallowed up by a sinkhole in the earth. Or eaten alive by rabid dogs.

    Or bought up on bogus child pornography charges; coerced into a "plea bargain" false confession; and interred in the torture camps of the American Gulag for a few decades. Yeah, that one seems pretty fitting.

  • Tyler.C||

    Talk about nut-punch...

  • Ken Shultz||

    "At the time of the incident, the Police Department determined that the school resource officer followed proper policies and procedures," he told the Tribune. School district officials made similar remarks."

    That statement is so telling. This is why government employees should be given as little control over our lives as possible.

    Notice:

    1) People being treated like a mass produced commodity or a subroutine in a computer program.

    2) The primary concern is to deflect blame.

    "The only thing that saves us from the bureaucracy is its inefficiency".

    ----Eugene McCarthy

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    School district officials made similar remarks.

    I'm sure they did. That's as standard as screaming "stop resisting" as you're beating someone unconscious. It's default. It's also akin to me telling you that my policy is to punch you in the face if you say another word. You speak and I swing. You were warned and I acted on internal policy, but does that absolve me of assault?

  • Ken Shultz||

    It's two excellent reasons to prefer markets to bureaucracy:

    1) People are treated as individuals in markets because individuals in markets make their own choices.

    2) The primary concern is not automatically to deflect blame--the primary concern is the individual's own preferences.

    I bet private schools don't treat kids this way as often. Private schools tend to treat parents like customers--not children like cogs in a machine.

  • Juice||

    Deflecting blame is not unique to government or bureaucracy.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Getting away with it so consistently and completely seems to be, though.

  • Ken Shultz||

    I didn't say deflecting blame was unique to bureaucracy.

    I said in bureaucracies, it tends to be their primary concern.

    I was in a car accident with a girlfriend of mine once. We got hit so hard, it spun the car around twice. When the guy who hit us got out of the car, and we were sitting on the sidewalk waiting for the EMTs and the police to show up, the guy who hit us started yelling about how she could have avoided the whole accident if only she'd just . . .

    Legally, it was his fault, but she could have avoided it. He was right.

    A couple days later I asked her about it when the subject came up. She said something to the effect of, "Well, I thought about avoiding the accident by doing that, but then I thought--if I just stay within the lines, then whatever happens won't be my fault".

    I told her I'd be sure to write "It Wasn't my Fault" on her tombstone. I'll never let her drive me anywhere again.

  • dantheserene||

    Jumping across lane lines in a panic without looking might have saved the guy who hit you, but could have turned out worse for you, and certainly would have been worse for anyone else she might have hit in the process.

  • Ken Shultz||

    Nice little tree you found there.

    Did you notice that avoiding blame isn't necessarily everyone's top priority?

    In some cases, avoiding blame can even be life threatening. See the forest yet?

    Having an office full of people who are all about avoiding blame is a red flag almost everywhere outside of government. It means the office is being poorly managed.

    The one things government employees tend to have going for them is that they're meticulous--but even that's a function of blame avoidance. They can't blame me--I dotted every "i" and crossed every "t"!

  • ||

    if I just stay within the lines, then whatever happens won't be my fault

    ^ The motto of 99% of bureaucrats.

  • MJBinAL||

    "if I just stay within the lines, then whatever happens won't be my fault"

    She would have been just fine in Nazi Germany.....

  • Microaggressor||

    I think the point he's making is that the private sector can't get away with that kind of shit.

    Public sector: We followed procedures, so we're secure in our jobs. You are not a customer, so we don't need to satisfy you to keep our jobs. Pound sand.

    Private sector: The employee followed policy, but it's clear from this incident that our policy is fucked up and harmful to customers and will be reevaluating it immediately. Please don't spend your money elsewhere or run to the media.

  • Argyle Pajamas||

    Except no actual historic market has ever existed absent state bureaucracy. The two go hand in hand.

  • No Yards Penalty||

    You can't be this retarded, Argyle.

  • MJBinAL||

    Don't sell Argyle short.

    She/He/It has put a lot of work into being retarded and expects to perfect it one day.

  • Don't look at me.||

    Funniest post of the day.

  • Fuck You - Cut Spending||

    School district officials made similar remarks.

    There was a time in this country when the media didn't even bother dispensing these boilerplate quotes.

    But now boilerplate quotes are 90% of the content.

  • Jerryskids||

    Following proper procedures is always the first thing they look at. Failure to follow proper procedure is cause for discipline, perhaps a paid vacation or frowny-face note in your file, a foregone raise or even firing. As long as proper procedure is followed, you have absolute immunity and your paycheck is safe. Proper procedure trumps the law and the Constitution and common sense and human decency.

    Not that these cops are mindless automatons like the paper-shufflers in the normal bureaucracy who lack the initiative gene, cops are wily enough to use the pretense of "just following orders" as both sword and shield only when it suits their purposes. Just look at the immediate release of details and commentary in any investigation of a mundane versus the solemn duty to withhold any comment on the investigation of one of the protected class for an example of how the rules work.

  • Stormy Dragon||

    o/~ Brazil, where hearts were entertaining june o/~

  • Cynical Asshole||

    Cops and even non-LEO bureaucrats can do pretty much anything they want to us peasants as long as they can claim they followed procedures. We're not people with individual rights and free will to make our own choices to these scumbags. We're literally nothing to them but cogs in a machine that they're in charge of. When one of the cogs "malfunctions" it's their job to repair the machine, even if that means doing away with the bad cog.

  • sarcasmic||

    Power is an end, not a means.

  • Hank Phillips||

    It's also the time derivative of the use of force. The more cadavers an entity can produce in time t, the greater its political power. Conversely, by voting libertarian you exercise at least 6 times that power to prevent killing, like changing the sign is changing the direction. Less power, fewer dead.

  • MJBinAL||

    And where are these libertarian candidates to vote for found?

    Bob Barr (I am a neocon who was outcast from the GOP and decided to join the Libertarians long enough to run for President Bob?)

    Bill Weld (I am a progressive that as governor got the state constitution changed so I could impose more taxes Bill? Or the I am a progressive that as the Libertarian Party VP candidate endorced Hillary Clinton Bill?)

    Gary Johnson (I just smoked a couple of doobies before the TV interview and made a fool of myself Gary?)

    I admit to be looking for one to vote for. These were not it.

  • JuanQPublic||

    "1) People being treated like a mass produced commodity or a subroutine in a computer program."

    Indeed, Ken.

    Politicians see this as an opportunity to prop up their long tenures in Washington and state legislatures. Who cares about rationally approaching these things on a case-by-case basis. Let's just build a system that's programmed to intimidate, deflect blame, and categorize people based on ambiguous and overly broad criteria. And who cares if they are children, mentally disabled, etc. We've got politicians and their morally vacant system to feed.

  • Fuck You - Cut Spending||

    It actually gets even worse as the insolvency of the whole scheme starts becoming obvious. They know a headcount reduction is inevitable and they want as few procedural mistakes on their records as possible. Wanton disregard isn't nearly as bad as making a procedural mistake that causes a superior to have to get off his lazy ass.

  • Quo Usque Tandem||

    "At the time of the incident, the Police Department determined that the school resource officer followed proper policies and procedures," he told the Tribune. School district officials made similar remarks.

    1. Get their stories in order
    2. Stand behind wall of bureaucratic obstinacy
    3. Use an authoritative voice/ posture
    4. Stick to it and wait till any and all criticisms wither away

    Fucking assholes.

  • You're Kidding||

    "Just doing my job Luke". - Boss Paul.

  • josh||

    "The only thing that saves us from the bureaucracy is its inefficiency".

    I don't know the context of this quote, but the other half of it is telling..."An efficient bureaucracy is the greatest threat to liberty."

    It almost makes it sound, and I don't doubt many on the left would take it this way, that bureaucracy isn't a problem so long as you manage it badly.

  • Putter||

    If you coud add it all up I bet you find that cops cause more harm than they mitigate.

  • Shirley Knott||

    There's solid evidence to support this view. Civil asset forfeiture amounts are greater than burglary amounts.

  • Microaggressor||

    Shorten that to "Civil asset forfeiture is burglary." The difference is, what are you gonna do, call the cops?

  • MarkLastname||

    My city's cops' main job is evacuating hobos from the parks after dark. I personally would put up with the hobos if it meant I could bike in the parks after dark without the cops kicking me out. All in all you may be right.

  • Cynical Asshole||

    "At the time of the incident, the Police Department determined that the school resource officer followed proper policies and procedures," he told the Tribune.

    "In fact, we're going to give the SRO a commendation for getting the 'perp' to kill himself rather than having to shoot the boy himself."

    wo 16-year-olds in a fully consensual relationship could be charged with abusing each other.

    Nah, they wouldn't be charged with abusing each other. The boy would be charged with abusing the girl because teenage and even college aged girls have no agency of their own* and are therefore incapable of ever consenting to sex. /SJW

    *This is what SJW feminists actually seem to believe, but remember, they're totally not misogynists.

  • Argyle Pajamas||

    Have you heard? "SJW" is out, "baizou" is in. It's a Chinese insult that translates as "white left", used in China to malign what we hitherto have called "SJW".

    http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1047989.shtml

    Baizou is a better insult because it's pronounceable. Because it denies the once-honorable term "social justice" to a movement that's violently anti-social and constantly pushing for new injustices to be perpetrated against the working people. Because it's international and backed by a coherent culture, making it harder for the SJW propagandists to subvert.

    In summary: fuck the elitist authoritarian perverted racist baizou. Make America great again.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "I think they wanted to scare him straight," Corey's mother, Maureen Walgren, told the Tribune.

    If they told Ms. Walgren that they had no intention of actually charging him, they're lying.

  • Cynical Asshole||

    This.

    They absolutely had every intention of charging him with the most serious crime they could and then scare him into taking a plea deal for a lesser charge. The standard operating procedure for these assholes, IOW.

  • You're Kidding||

    Maybe mom didn't know he was gay and he was afraid she'd find out.

    Than again, maybe that's why he made the video, to "prove" to everyone that he wasn't gay. ;-(

  • MJBinAL||

    Wow, that's a reach.

  • NM Dave||

    They always file charges. The days of warning a citizen of any age are long gone.

  • John C. Randolph||

    the school resource officer followed proper policies and procedures,

    We didn't accept that excuse at Nuremburg, motherfucker.

    -jcr

  • Cynical Asshole||

    We didn't accept that excuse at Nuremburg, motherfucker.

    *mic drop*

    Thread winner.

  • ||

    *mic drop*

    Too smug for somebody who won't face charges for the equivalent of wearing a Nazi Uniform to scare a Jew (to death).

    Is throwing the microphone at people a thing? Can we make it a thing?

  • Arcxjo||

    Mics have cords; that would hey better results.

  • Arcxjo||

    *get*

  • Longtobefree||

    Not all mics have cords; some are planted without your knowledge and use wireless technology to "archive" things at the NSA

  • JuanQPublic||

    So much this ^^^^

  • Hank Phillips||

    Eventually, all a former SS gasser had to do to be "denazified" was confess to a priest and not join the communist party. You can search denazification on Google News and read the stories in the 1945-48 editions. It is chilling stuff.

  • Fuck You - Cut Spending||

    The Eichmann Defense is SOP for American civil servants. And we call them heroes.

  • AlgerHiss||

    It was always unwarranted and dangerous from the start to load these schools with cops or the insidious "SRO" as they are referred to.

    Get these freak'n cops out of your schools NOW! You've never needed on-site powers of arrest. And tell your kids to NEVER get near or speak to these mopes.

    And if you're one of these "SRO" characters, go get a real job and leave decent people alone. Or are you hanging around the halls of the junior high because it gets you excited?

  • sarcasmic||

    SRO characters are not decent people.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    The one at my high school was okay, but she was obviously just using the SRO beat as a way to kill time between field hockey games and wasn't interested in fucking up anybody's day.

  • ||

    she was obviously just using the SRO beat as a way to kill time between field hockey games and wasn't interested in fucking up anybody's day.

    Uniformed and deigned by the State SRO or guidance counselor with a better paycheck SRO?

    Not to definitively stitch too many loose ends together but, a female authority figure who enjoys field hockey... maybe you just don't identify as the type of person who's day she'd enjoy fucking up?

  • Cynical Asshole||

    Or are you hanging around the halls of the junior high because it gets you excited?

    Duh. If they actually had to try and catch real criminals they might not make it home safe at night. /sarc

  • JuanQPublic||

    It's also a good way to teach children to always respect and not to question authority, no matter how disgusting the authority's protocol is.

    Essentially, "Unamerican", if we're using the basic tone of the Constitution as a barometer for what is "American". And that basic tone is this: Authority must prove its legitimacy. If it's not legitimate, it should be disbanded.

  • Argyle Pajamas||

    In free countries, there are no cops stationed in highschools. Don't your miss living in a free country?

    Cops out of schools now! Make America great again.

  • Rhywun||

    Words fail.

  • Frank Thorn||

    Saffron: No. I didn't kill him either.
    Mal: No, don't reckon there's many you killed. Just put him in a position to die easy

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Poor police. That young thug was just looking for an excuse to kill himself and now those poor workers will be scarred by his actions.

    I hope that next time they aren't afraid to come down on consenual sex even harder. Scare these kids from their selfish, rapist ways.

  • Rhywun||

    At least they'll have this on their consc-

    LOL I almost got it out.

  • ||

    An Atlanta Journal-Constitution and Channel 2 Actions News investigation of officers hired by school police departments revealed a troubling practice: School police forces employ officers who have been terminated or resigned under the cloud of an investigation at twice the rate of local police departments.
    Should schools provide second chances to cops with checkered pasts?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Well, what possible damage could they do at a school?

  • Rhywun||

    School police forces

    Which should not be a thing.

    Should schools provide second chances to cops with checkered pasts?

    Sure! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • Unlabelable MJGreen||

    I can't think of any place better than a school to give cops with anger issues a second chance.

  • BestUsedCarSales||

    Yeah, I fucking hate kids nowadays.

  • NoVaNick||

    We had a school cop (aka truant officer) in the town I grew up in. He would fill in for the crossing guards sometimes, but other than that, he was best known for confiscating cigarettes from junior high kids, which he would then smoke himself.

  • Hank Phillips||

    Upper-class-"men" in prep schools did that too. No telling in how many young puffers-on-nicotine the practice nurtured a smouldering hatred for the "upper classes."

  • MarkLastname||

    Sounds like a good racket

  • You're Kidding||

    In my day, it was weed and beer that the truant officers confiscated and consumed.

  • Juice||

    So...bullying?

  • ||

    Corey had played the recording for his friends (it's not clear whether he did),
    ...
    The video recording was apparently of such poor quality that it was impossible to make out any of its images.

    I gotta say, between documenting affirmative consent and child porn charges, I can sympathize a bit with choosing the parking garage.

  • ToCa81||

    Why in the world is evidence of consensual sex between minors considered child pornography? I would think common sense dictates that it only applies to material held by adult sickos. If this was my kid I would murder the school cop, the principal, and that asshole police chief happily.

  • ||

    If this was my kid I would murder the school cop, the principal, and that asshole police chief happily.

    I don't think happily is the correct word. Also, write the manifesto first, then you're just follow policy and procedures.

  • colorblindkid||

    Because left-wing progressives have turned into more sinister versions of the conservative Christian right of 30 years ago.

  • ||

    I would think common sense dictates that it only applies to material held by adult sickos.

    Yes, but if you counted that way it would show up as freakishly rare, rather than as a plague upon society that requires billions of dollars worth of government force to address.

  • Finrod||

    And if I was on the jury for your trial, you'd either be declared not guilty or there'd be a mistrial, because I would never ever ever vote to convict you.

  • NoVaNick||

    I've said this before, but the problem is we have way too many cops and police departments nowadays, and a shortage of real crime. So what happens? Politicians create more crimes to keep the cops busy and the bored cops grab the opportunity to act like assholes and use their new military-grade toys.

  • You're Kidding||

    Not that I disagree but, have you ever participated in NextDoor?

    According to the agoraphobic shut ins on the "private neighbor networks" across the country, we have a crime epidemic and they can see it right outside their windows.

  • Tony||

    If only cops were prone to have functioning consciences they might learn something from this.

  • Citizen X - #6||

    Says the guy who believes that, absent government force, parents wouldn't even take care of their kids.

  • Tony||

    Some would. Even with government force some parents let their children starve. What do you propose to do about that in the absence of government force? "Tough shit, pick better parents next time?"

  • ace_m82||

    Even with government force some parents let their children starve.

    Personally, if I knew about literally any of these cases before the child died, I'd save the child, damn the law. In order to save a child, I'd risk a run in with the police and the jury trial for... whatever. I'd love to see the jury that would vote to convict me for saving a child from a parent that would let their child starve...

  • Citizen X - #6||

    In the rare cases where biological imperatives don't do the trick, there's social pressure and basic human kindness, neither of which require the intervention or even the existence of armed government agents (who even you describe as lacking functional consciences).

    You want government involvement? That's what this article is about. Don't order an omelet and then complain about broken eggs.

  • Tony||

    There is a spectrum between anarchy and cops bullying kids into suicide.

  • ace_m82||

    Yes, there is. We used to live in it (I think?). It seems to slip towards the later, so perhaps we should err on the side of the former?

  • Tony||

    I didn't bring up the philosophy question, interesting as it is: "Should we punish parents who neglect their children till they die? Great minds debate."

  • ace_m82||

    One could very well say that there is an unwritten contract when you create someone to either keep them alive until they can care for themselves or give them to someone who can. This is similar to the reason I can't invite you onto my boat and then "dis-invite" you (kick you off) 100 miles out to sea. When I invite you on, I'm basically saying I won't directly or indirectly kill you even though it's my property. If that logic holds, then certainly it should that bringing someone into existence and then indirectly killing them (by failing to feed them) would also hold.

    And, I guess, that the act of bringing them into existence and then not feeding them could be an initiation of force, as I'm sure the starving child could attest.

    Again, it's much better (if possible) to just take the child out of that situation rather than let him/her die. And if the parent attempts to fight you so they can continue to starve the child, then there seems in my mind little question that that act of violence is aggression, toward the child, if not toward the attempted savior.

  • MarkLastname||

    You would think by the way you speak that it hadn't been illegal for a very long time to do so.

    And yet it still happens, because there isn't a cop inspecting every parent every day. Maybe you think there should be; maybe if the state made daily home inspections for all parents it would save a few lives; sure it'd be with it. I'm sure it's also worth it to ban all sex if it prevents just one rape.

    It's staggering that it never occurs to you people that government employees have a tendency to use basic 'good intentions' of the polity as a Trojan horse to intrude in every facet of human life. Either that or you're just ok with CPS ruining a few dozen lives and traumatizing countless children 'in order to save one kid's life', because ostensibly they have to throw people in jail for letting their kids go outside to save that one life. Gotta break a few eggs, right?

  • You're Kidding||

    Well, I'm sitting here only a few miles from the former home of Phillip Garrido where he kept Jaycee Dugard for all those years.

    And, he was visited by parole officers several times. But, they never noticed the apparent issues.

    So, even when cops inspect, they aren't so effective.

    Criminal mind all that...........

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    Tony, it's your kind's unlimited government and federal takeover of the education system that allowed this to happen.

    Basically, YOU have this kid's blood on your hands, and the blood oafs many others. Will you finally take the honorable way out and drink a bottle of Drano? Nah, you're probably too big of a narcissistic coward.

  • ace_m82||

    Yes, though actual negative consequences (in proportion) would also suffice.

  • Tony||

    Manslaughter charge?

  • ace_m82||

    Sure, literally anything that makes them suffer (in proportion) for their bad behavior. But, of course, they would be technically "not guilty" because all they threatened was to enforce the "law", regardless of how stupid/evil the law is.

    So no real hope until major changes are made.

  • OldMexican Blankety Blank||

    Re: Tony,

    If only cops were prone to have functioning consciences they might learn something from this.


    Perhaps it's the case that the State's thugs are not paid to have functioning consciences.

    Even with government force some parents let their children starve.


    So much for your ibsinuation that "cops don't have functioning consciences." Who are supposed to stop these evil (and hypothetical) parents starve their children to death, if you dont trust cops have functioning consciences?

    But logical consistency not being your cup of tea...

  • Microaggressor||

    And maybe, cops having functioning consciences ends up being a hindrance to their career advancement. Incentives drive behavior.

  • You're Kidding||

    It did in the case of Celeste Guap.

    http://reason.com/blog/2017/05.....conspiracy

  • MarkLastname||

    Note that the very same Tonies of the world who purport to be so critical of cops will flip their shit at any suggestion of laying off a bunch of them, cutting their salaries and pensions, and eliminating their unions' special privileges.

    Progs' attitude toward law enforcement: the food is so bad, and worse, the portions are too small!

  • Last of the Shitlords||

    If the number of progressives in America were reduced to..... a manageable level, all these problems could go away.

  • ace_m82||

    Me: Woodchipper.

    God: Vengeance is mine, I will repay.

    Me: ...

    God: ...

    Me: ...OK...fine...

    (And many, many conversations like that are why I'm not dead yet.)

  • Quo Usque Tandem||

    Preacher: Vengeance is mine, says the Lord.

    Judge Roy Bean: It was, and the whores weren't no ladies.

  • Longtobefree||

    Alternative thread;
    Me: Woodchipper.

    God: Vengeance is mine, I will repay.

    Me: I will gladly be your instrument of vengeance.

  • ace_m82||

    Yeah, sometimes I wish I were called to that, but the whole "Vengeance is mine, I will repay" quote is from God telling someone not to take their own vengeance.

    So I await his vengeance. Perhaps he will call me to do it, though he hasn't yet.

  • Fuck You - Cut Spending||

    How ISIS of you.

  • ace_m82||

    Yeah, really ISIS to extract justice form a murderer. Wait, what does justice mean again? I forgot! :)

  • MarkLastname||

    "The lord has no hands but yours"

  • ace_m82||

    Excepting when he directly tells me (us) NOT to. Believe me, I'd be in jail or dead a long time ago without that verse.

  • ||

    Wait.. is it legal for white teenagers to be into girls ? Isn't it crime to have sex without government license and permit to have sex ? Should'nt we ask people to report when they have sex in a centralised database ?

  • Longtobefree||

    1. No.
    2. No. (But even if you have the license and permit, it is still a crime if she (or whatever the other is) says no.
    3. We do, it's called social media. Homeland security thoughtfully creates a complete index, just not for open publication.

  • Arcxjo||

    So the media narrative of Tyler Clementi actuality happened here?

  • C. S. P. Schofield||

    "At the time of the incident, the Police Department determined that the school resource officer followed proper policies and procedures," he told the Tribune. School district officials made similar remarks"

    I know I've said this before, and tend to harp on it, but all that means is that both the cop on the scene AND the asshole who came up with the policies and proceedures should be fired. Preferably out of a cannon.

  • Finrod||

    Out of a cannon pointed straight at a concrete wall, and televised for pay-per-view.

  • Tionico||

    What amazes me is that the gummit education system teaches kids, from a VERY early age, all about sex, sexuality, the physiology and mechanics of it in all its perversions, encourages kids to explore and "find what they like", then gets them arrested or otherwise messes up their lives when they actually DO it. Double standard, tell me one thing demand another, hypocrisy, whatever you want to call it..... STOP making human sexuality out to be a casual amoral adventure to be explored, then maybe the kids won't be quite so eager to give it a try.

  • NashTiger||

    We got a CHRISTIAN over here expousing FAMILY VALUES

    Got to root this out before it ruins the culture

  • mockmock||

    Of all the stories along this line I have to say this one breaks my heart.

    Haven't we come a long way from the 1600s?

  • SIV||

    Fucking 16 y/o girls was legal in the 17th century. We're more progressive now.

  • JeremyR||

    But just yesterday in your article about the Arinna Grande bombing, you said nothing is a big deal if it doesn't kill 1000s and 1000s of people. We should just deal with it.

    Now today you are upset over one person?

  • ||

  • Crowster||

    Thank GODS we have the modern education system and the government to protect us from these 16 year old monsters who want to have sex with other consenting 16 year old monsters and then brag about it to their friends! That has never happened before in the history of mankind! Imagine what the world would be like if we allowed this to go on unchecked! We need at least one school resource police officer that accompanies each and every child through their life to make sure nothing like this ever happens again! Someone pass a law already!

    And while we're at it where are the burkas and chastity belts? And we should send in the pot bangers and protesters to show these young people that they are either rapists or victims of rape EVERY TIME someone even thinks about sex! Yes, shower them with shame and make them sublimate and fear their sexuality!

    On a related aside, I wonder how this would have been handled if this involved two boys, but one of which identified as female and they did it in the girls locker room? Christ that rabbit hole is a deep one!

    Wow, the Inquisition and the Salem Witch Trials have got nothing on us modern humans. At least the religious zealots have the courtesy to threaten you with punishment in the next life. Now-a-days we just skip the bullshit and send you straight to hell on earth.

    Just when you think puritanism is dead, it morphs into the school curriculum.

  • Art Gecko||

    If I were called to jury duty, and the case involved the kid's dad killing the cop, I would vote not guilty.

  • Art Gecko||

    "At the time of the incident, the Police Department determined that the school resource officer followed proper policies and procedures."

    That's not an excuse... THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

  • Queen Screwup||

    "We also know that treating kids like sex criminals for taking inappropriate pictures and videos of each other is bad for everyone involved." Just how stupid is this writer? You're not talking about an innocent mistake - oopsy! If parents are too stupid to teach their children values and prepare them for life then they should NOT be breeding. It's not law enforcement that is the problem. It's idiots like you who think consequences should not be a real thing. This kid didn't have to kill himself. He chose to because he had no coping skills - yet another failure by his parents and himself. Whether you like it or not the reality is personal responsibility IS a real thing so grow up.

  • RealTVCritics||

    Well it is child porn. The girl was underage, he was running around showing the clips to his buddies. That social media thing will always get these kids in trouble.

  • jerryg1018||

    These laws making kids sex criminals are ridiculous. This is an issue that should be dealt with by the parents and not the law. This is a result of the state legislators trying to inflate the sex offender registries they spent so much time and effort and tax money creating for a small number of actual pedophiles.
    A CT legislator spent five years getting an offender registry into law only to have the list less than one page long.

  • James Pollock||

    "They don't understand that talking to a cop isn't like talking to a regular school official, that it involves forfeiting certain rights."

    Talking to a regular school official involves forfeiting certain rights, too.

  • Roksimusi||

    terrible

  • VinniUSMC||

    The age of "smart" phones has left kids stupid.

    Um, don't record that shit. Duh.

  • NM Dave||

    So it's fine that he's dead, since he something stupid.

    Got it.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

  • Hank Phillips||

    I'm sure their intentions were altruistic. It's like taxing and regulating at gunpoint. Your First Responders™ have to kill a few kids to set a good example for the obedient. Then you use tax money to hire spin doctors to make sure nobody starts adding those "unfortunate fatalities" in as costs (as though their lives were a value). In this case the kid saves the murderers the trouble--Sanction of the Victim!

  • NM Dave||

    Merely collateral damage. Keep moving. Nothing to see here.

  • Eddy||

    How did this story get revived all of a sudden?

  • Liberty Lover||

    Protect and Serve baby, protect and serve.

  • perlchpr||

    Naperville Police Chief Robert Marshall offered his condolences but declined to criticize the process that resulted in Corey's death.

    "At the time of the incident, the Police Department determined that the school resource officer followed proper policies and procedures," he told the Tribune. School district officials made similar remarks.

    Drag the resource officer and the police chief to the parking garage, and throw them over. Maybe some "school district officials", for good measure.

  • NM Dave||

    "Naperville Police Chief Robert Marshall offered his condolences but declined to criticize the process that resulted in
    Corey's death."

    In other words, "We don't care whose lives we destroy, as long as we can get a conviction."

  • Two Buck Chuck||

    Every time a cop gets shot, I raise a glass. ACAB.

  • Longtobefree||

    I suspect that if anyone added up all the suicides related to smart phones (bullying, photos, videos, etc), there would be a campaign to ban them completely.
    For the children.

    Ban the phones, not the children - - - -

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