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Clemson U.’s Diversity Training Says Being Late Is Okay Because Some Cultures Believe Time Is Relative

"Time may be considered precise or fluid depending on the culture."

ClockJacek ChabraszewskiClemson University's $25,000 diversity initiative asks professors to endorse a novel opinion about punctuality: it's wrong, and probably colonialist, to expect people to show up to a meeting on time.

The administration at the public university in South Carolina has encouraged all faculty and staff members to complete an online training course, "Diversity Benefits for Higher Education," which is produced by a company called Workplace Answers.

The training presents faculty members with several hypothetical scenarios. In one scenario, a fictional character named Alejandro schedules a 9:00 a.m. meeting for visiting professors and students (one assumes these people are foreign). Some arrive early, others arrive 10 minutes late. What should Alejandro do? Participants are given three options:

Politely ask the second group to apologize

Explain "In our country 9:00 AM means 9:00 AM."

As the meeting organizer, he should recognize cultural differences that may impact the meeting and adjust accordingly.

The third answer, evidently, is the correct one—at least from the perspective of the training module—according to Campus Reform.

"Alejandro should recognize and acknowledge cultural differences with ease and respect," the module asserts. "Time may be considered precise or fluid depending on the culture."

The training module then asks participants to consider that Alejandro's "cultural perspective regarding time is neither more nor less valid than any other."

Time. It's all relative, man.

Note that Clemson would never actually endorse an across-the-board policy that all cultural traditions were equally valid. In some cultures, it's common to smoke indoors: would Clemson ever consider relaxing its total campus-wide ban on tobacco products in the name of diversity and tolerance? I thought not.

Hypocrisy aside, it's frankly bizarre to watch a university decide that it's faculty shouldn't be making any judgments about different cultural traditions. Obviously, punctuality is more socially desirable than tardiness, and a professor has every right to endorse a culture that prefers the former to the latter.

The training also presents a scenario where a person, "Maxine," expresses skepticism about diversity training, likening it to political correctness run amok. The correct answer here is to challenge Maxine and assert that diversity training is valuable and necessary, according to the module (which is awfully convenient and seems like a conflict of interest on the part of the training's creators).

Another portion of the training explains that freedom of speech and academic freedom have limits—and those limits involve language that hurts other people, particularly members of protected groups.

Clemson Chief Diversity Officer Lee Gill—who was paid $185,000 last year, according to The Tiger Town Observer—did not respond to a request for comment.

A public university can make diversity training available to its staff members. But it shouldn't require them to endorse opinions they might not agree with. It certainly shouldn't instruct them to ignore students who are routinely late to class as part of some misguided attempt to never offend anyone. Sometimes, objective reality sort of matters.

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  • timbo||

    All this stuff going on in universities is simply another attempt at postmodernism. Yet another load of horseshit that they have to re-name because only mentally handicapped leftists a-holes buy into such nonsense.

    For a laugh, google the PBS definition. Here is an exerpt, "postmodernism is highly skeptical of explanations which claim to be valid for all groups, cultures, traditions, or races, and instead focuses on the relative truths of each person."

    Another classic reason that the university experience has become a colossal succubus of the mind.

  • timbo||

    The definition of postmodernism is hilarious because the same proponents of this line of thought are the very people that subscribe to the collective and that preach the absoluteness of global warming, racial strife, the perceived evils of capitalism, and rejection of every other rational explanation of the function of civil society. Postmodernism is basically an objection to science, no matter how incontrovertible, an objection to the natural division of classes and labor that come with market economies, and an objection to the survival of the fittest mentality that comes from the human nature to strive and succeed. JMR – 7-16-2013

  • timbo||

    Not false. Makes perfect sense.

    When groups of ignorant leftists get together, they often make up problems so they can employ other leftists at the university level to work towards solutions. i.e. man made global warming.

  • Azathoth!!||

    That's what's being pointed out, Sparky.

    That they hold two totally contradictory positions at once.

  • timbo||

    Sparky, you need to read the whole definition of post modernism to see what I am talking about. It is complete mumbo-jumbo. It was invented in the 70s out of thin air.

    My contention is that, just like all of the non-sense that is being invented in the US here recently, that these ginned up boogeymen are from morons trying to justify their stupidity.

    They are just confused sheep.

  • timbo||

    OK.

    Do you use the words "social construct" a lot?

  • Zeb||

    Social constructs are actually a real thing. Not everything we do is biologically innate. The trick is figuring out which things actually are social constructs and which are something else.

  • Zeb||

    I guess it depends on what you mean by "real thing".

  • pan fried wylie||

    intangible == indescribable?

  • Mickey Rat||

    The problem with social constructs is that it easy to fall into trap that because people have built up some customs around an aspect of life that they are entirely artificial and therefore can be changed at will for improved constructs. it easily lends itself to utopianist thinking with regards to the perfectibility of man, leads to problems when the rock upon which the social construct was built is revealed and proves to be immovable without hurting people.

  • ||

    Thats a great metaphor, it really works beautifully!

    Thanks for that.

  • MarkLastname||

    Whether time exists or not isn't really a sociological question though. I happen to agree; intuitively, one can argue time isn't really a separate dimension of space; it's just a means of measuring the sequence with which things and coordinating our actions.

    However, that has nothing to do with things 'being valid for all groups.' Time is equally valid for all groups. It's not like a Jew can show up to a meeting an hour after it ended and still participate in it because 'that's his culture.' If we know from the start that Jews have a different clock, there's a simple solution: translate our time into theirs and tell them when we want to meet in their time.

    It's the same sense in which 'north' isn't a real thing. There's not absolute direction that is north. Maybe other cultures draw their maps upside down. But named directions are a reference to a universal reality, and they were created precisely for the purpose of coordination between individuals. So if someone shows up late, either there was a miscommunication, or they're not using time right (or more likely they're just lazy).

  • Lord_at_War||

    And I honeatly do believe time may not actually exist"

    You don't believe anything moves- ever?

    That's how we measure time. It's feet per second or miles per hour- hell, the current "official definition" of a "second" is a certain number of vibrations of a cesium atom.

  • ||

    Well, time disappears from the equations at the quantum level; a quantum wavefunction is a static function.

    It may just be an emergent property or the effect of two, more fundamental, things interacting at a lower level (for instance gravity & space). At least gravity has to be involved, because that's the only thing left that isn't yet explained by quantum mechanics. And we know gravity makes things move and movement and time are the same thing (F=ma, in which "a" is in m/s^2), as energy and matter are the same thing (E=mc^2, in which "c^2" is (m/(s^2))^2, so it's heavily implicated.

    In that sense time, as we experience it, wouldn't exist and it would explain why time appears to have a forward direction only, and the first 3 dimensions don't. Vibrations of cesium atoms is not really how we measure time, it's more like that's how we're measuring what we now *guess* time is, which is why we defined it as such. But no proof for that exists and it's likely something will have to give in the definition of time eventually.

  • Zeb||

    That definition of postmodernism is fine when it comes to art (whatever you may think about the actual art). Value and meaning of art is, as they say, in the eye of the beholder and certainly differs among cultures, traditions, etc.

    But as a complete world-view, it is a bunch of BS.

    I prefer to think of post-modern as just whatever came after modernism.

  • Zeb||

    Whether or not time exists, there are still things called clocks that have numbers on them and it shouldn't be too hard to figure out how to make certain numbers on the clock coincide with your being located in a certain place.

  • timbo||

    Whether or not time exists, a whole bunch of people use to make things happen.

    having a hard time ever buying into the whole all things are relative argument when the usage of time, that is a centralized agreed upon time via Greenwich, is something that markets all over the world agreed to because it was based on the need for uniformity between geographies. Hardly some sort of political debate.

  • Zeb||

    Yeah, that too.

    You could even say that the fact that time is relative is the reason why we have standardized time in the first place.

  • Mickey Rat||

    "That does not at all preclude the possibility that time is not actually a real thing."

    That one cannot ignore the effects of time at will suggests that is a real thing. Even if you could say that it does exist, does not change it as part of the human condition, it will still be a real thing for people.

  • Tak Kak||

    I assume they still give exams in schools? Are they to just let them sit in the following class if their view of time isn't synced with the class schedule?

  • Rat's instance||

    I only have an hour for the test. Time is fluid in my culture. Today it feels like 90 of your minutes.

  • Uncle Jay||

    RE: Clemson U.'s Diversity Training Says Being Late Is Okay Because Some Cultures Believe Time Is Relative
    "Time may be considered precise or fluid depending on the culture."

    Time is relative?
    Since When?
    Blatant stupidity abounds at Clemson University.
    But that's OK.
    This is the reward the school gets when their football team wins the national championship.

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    Since the early 1900's?

    *Einstein's general theory of relativity

  • JWatts||

    Einstein's relativity of time applied to specific frames of reference and generally involved either very high (singularity level ) gravitational fields or very high (speed of light) differences in velocity.

    For everyone, living on Earth, time isn't relative to any significant degree. If someone really wants to claim that, I'd be more than willing to give them the difference, providing they can either a) calculate what that difference should be or b) just guess and be within a couple of orders of magnitude.]

    For the sake of argument, I'm willing to ignore anyone arriving up to 8 microseconds after the appointed time.

  • MarkLastname||

    This is why it infuriates me when 'postmodern' academics try to refer to Einstein's theory of relativity as an analogy to cultural or social relativity.

    In physical relativity, the experienced time elapsed depends on the point of reference, but that dependency is very specific and easily calculated (via the Lorenz transformation). More over, from a given reference point, using the Lorenz transformation, you can still calculate the exact difference in how much time appears to elapse at a different reference point. So while postmodernists like to use the analogy to say that someone from one point of view can't understand things from someone else's point of view, in actuality, in physics at least, it is not the case; rather, while there is a difference in perception, the extent of the difference is easily calculated, so one can indeed 'understand' another reference point from one's own.

    They also like to refer to relativity to suggest 'things aren't absolute' or whatever; in truth relativity theory was conceived precisely to explain the absoluteness of the speed of light.

    And of course, as you mention, the time dilation is negligible for all practical purposes.

  • Mickey Rat||

    Yes, but Einstein's theory has about as much to do with this as evolution of species had to do with Social Darwinism. It is a charlatan's rationalization.

  • Zeb||

    Time is definitely relative. But clocks still say what they say, and everyone has a synchronized clock in their pocket now, so it's irrelevant.

  • The Last American Hero||

    Not everybody. Some of us are just happy to see other people.

  • Crusty Juggler aka "Chad"||

    Everyone knows that time is a flat circle.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    To my sister, time is an endless, featureless plane extending from horizon to horizon. Its supply is endless and therefore has almost no value.

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    McConnaughey supposedly wants to come back for season 3. Yes, please.

  • Tony||

    Can a math nerd explain to me what an unflat circle looks like?

  • Half-Virtue, Half-Vice||

    They could not, "Time is a flat circle" amounts to little more than poetry -- which I love; but as Socrates (or Plato) accurately states:

    "Then when they read their poetry, which I thought they had really
    worked at, I asked them what they meant in order to
    learn something from them. Now I'm embarrassed to
    tell you the truth, but I must say it. Virtually everyone
    present could have given a better account of what they
    had written. After a little while, I realized this about the
    poets: They composed what they did, not out of wisdom
    but by some kind of natural ability and because they
    were divinely inspired, just like seers and prophets. For
    even though they in fact say many fine things, they don't
    know what they're saying."

    (apologies for bad formatting of copy/paste)

  • Mallethead||

    Almost like a sphere.

  • albo||

    Time is a cube

  • Steve Son of Steve||

    The wisest human told me so.

  • MarkLastname||

    Time, it is a river.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Explain "In our country 9:00 AM means 9:00 AM."

    LIKE WHEN I SCHEDULE A COMMENT AT 9:00 AM OR 4:30 PM IN THIS COUNTRY IT MEANS YOU PROVIDE A PLATFORM FOR SAID COMMENT AT THE TIME AGREED UPON IN OUR SOCIAL CONTRACT.

    Boom. Nailed it.

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    Come on, no one is going to comment how hilarious this article is coming from Robby?

  • timbo||

    Yeah no

  • Bra Ket||

    Their "gender fluid" explanation of time is retarded, but there is something to this issue. In at least parts of the US, being a few minutes late counts as being on time, where in other places (like certain parts known for being assholes) they jump at every opportunity to take offense and be assholes about details like that. Even if you walk in five seconds "late" because they wanted to start on the hour sharp. Asians apparently are very strict about time, at least I've heard complaints from both Chinese and Japanese people about americans being habitually late to meetings, when its just tiny things like this.

    But ten minutes is kind of extreme. You should figure out pretty quick if that amount of tardniess doesn't go over just for practical reasons; you miss so much and never catch up to what is going on. On the other hand demanding an apology (or calling people out in any fashion, especially as an authority and in front of their peers) is downright offensive behavior. It isn't that "time is fluid", it's that the offense of being late is not taken personally in some cultures, including the US.

  • Microaggressor||

    What's amazing to me, or perhaps shouldn't be, is that they set it up with no right answers. What usually happens in the real world, when someone shows up late to a meeting, is for the meeting to proceed like nothing happened. The late person knows they missed out on a bit, and everyone already knows they're late, so why point it out?

    So here you're given 3 choices.
    1. Stop the meeting and be a complete asshole
    2. Stop the meeting and be a complete asshole
    3. Embrace social justice

    Can propaganda at least try to be less transparent?

  • Bra Ket||

    So here you're given 3 choices.
    1. Stop the meeting and be a complete asshole
    2. Stop the meeting and be a complete asshole
    3. Embrace social justice

    Can propaganda at least try to be less transparent?

    Yeah the other questions fit right into this theme too. It's like those old written exams for driving that had only one sane answer to each question, often with pictures (like a baby crawling behind a parked car) to force the obvious point.

  • Glide||

    Yeah, that was my takeaway too.

    If I'm giving a lecture or test, I'm not sitting around waiting for latecomers before I start, but I'm also not dramatically staging a shaming of them the moment they walk in. Yeesh.

  • SFC B||

    I think it also depends on what the event is. Alejandro's 17th meeting to discuss the bake sale? Yeah, if he's lucky I show up. Job interview; I'll be there 10 minutes early.

  • Rhywun||

    When in Rome... do whatever the hell you feel like.

  • Number 2||

    "Sometimes, objective reality sort of matters."

    Objective reality is a colonialist construct created by white male heterosexual capitalists to oppress working families.

    So there!

  • Zeb||

    Prove that it isn't!

  • Number 2||

    "Proof" is colonialist construct devised by white male heterosexual capitalist Patriarchy to silence victims of oppression!

  • MarkLastname||

    Wanna give 'em a mindfuck?

    Posit that in fact, throughout history, white men have been systematically oppressed by minority women. Then, when they attempt to disagree, explain how each point depends on the socially constructed 'logic' of the white male patriarchy, and therefore is not immutably valid.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    You know what else is acceptable in other cultures?

  • Gilbert Martin||

    Headhunting?

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    Butt sex, weed, and Messicans all at the same time?

  • Tony||

    Are they talking about gay time? Gay time is the privilege gay men afford themselves of being late to everything because, I dunno, we spend a lot of time grooming and like to linger over our morning/mid-afternoon drinks. And it's a horrible stereotype. I can't not be punctual even if I get extremely lost on the way to somewhere.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Lesbians manage to be on time.

  • Tony||

    See above about grooming.

  • Bra Ket||

    lesbians get so much done in a day.

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    Lickety-split.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Very efficient they are. I've seen two lesbians get three dogs and a weeks' worth of camping gear into a Subaru in less than 40 minutes. And that's not a joke.

  • The Laissez-Ferret||

    Clocks not cocks

  • Maven Houlihan||

    We should accommodate people from cultures where time is 'fluid', whatever the hell that means. However, those from cultures that believe all this pc/diversity stuff is a bunch of bs are wrong and, need to be corrected.

  • timbo||

    We need to start eliminating all of the pc/diversity, social justice, time is not really time but what I think is because I am a pedantic pretentious douche, whining assholes.

    Is there somewhere like Australia for crooks but for these people we could ship them all to?

  • Longtobefree||

    Australia.

  • Zeb||

    And what happened to "respect the cultures of places you visit"?

  • Rhywun||

    Some cultures don't deserve any respect. Guess which ones.

  • Ska||

    Based on meetings starting on time - American, German, and Japanese?

  • Brandybuck||

    Does Clemson (and the identitarian left in particular) not realize how fucking insulting this question is to Latinos? Are they clueless?

    Once upon a time we used to fight against stereotypes, now we have to celebrate them to avoid being called racists. "It's okay if Alejandro shows up late, because he's from a culture that takes long siestas in the afternoon...".

  • Chipper Morning Wood||

    Yes, we've come full circle. Full, flat circle.

  • Tony||

    Leftists are having a minor crisis at the moment with this stuff. Of course at places like Reason, it is the pending doom of the cosmos.

    Rightists don't believe science they don't like and control the entire country, meanwhile.

  • ||

    I envy you in this regard. You only need one horror movie and no matter how many times you've seen it nor how many spoiler alerts people give you. You're still able to watch the entire thing, beginning to end, like you've never seen it before.

  • Tony||

    There are people in the White House who are actual Nazis dude.

    Being in favor of somewhat more progressive income tax is not the road to death camps. Having an insane fascist who rose to power on racial fear and resentment--a little warmer.

  • timbo||

    You went stupid again.

    Are they Nazi's because they want to kill the jews or are they Nazi's because they love a massive dysfunctional central government and cronyism?

  • Tony||

    There are people in our current executive branch who want to kill the Jews. Or at least the Muslims. Probably both in the end. This is what I'm saying.

    You idiots are going to miss the death camps until it's too late if you keep trying to conflate your pet libertarian horseshit and whatever evil regime you plucked out of a hat. We're never going to have a small government. We tried it, and we preferred big government like every other civilized group of people on the planet. Just give it up already.

  • Tony||

    Well I really Sean Spicered* that post. You get the idea.

    *Sean Spicer to a brown-skinned woman who was born in the United States who shouted a criticism to him: "Such a great country that allows you to be here"

  • MarkLastname||

    "Such a great country that allows you to be here"
    That's the sentiment of someone who wants to eradicate Muslims and Jews?

    Something about crying wolf comes to mind. Take your antipsychotics Tony.

  • ||

    We tried it, and we preferred big government like every other civilized group of people on the planet. Just give it up already.

    Right, I remember being 12 too. At first you begin to think, "Those people would have to be stupid to put down a weapon and run upstairs when being stalked by a Nazi in a hockey mask/Inbred redneck/crazy trucker/group of murderous hippies/vampire cult." then, for a bit, you begin to entertain the notion that maybe they like it or they're trying to be slaughtered. Then, you get a bit older and realize that the writers and/or audience(s) are just really fucking dumb.

    I bet Cabin In the Woods blew your mind.

  • pan fried wylie||

    You idiots are going to miss the death camps until it's too late

    Not Tony, though, he's got the multiple copies of the itinerary posted around the house.

  • MarkLastname||

    " We tried it, and we preferred big government like every other civilized group of people on the planet. Just give it up already."
    Someone was doubtless saying something similar to the Brits in the late 30s about fascist dictatorship.

    "My views are right because they are inevitable and they're inevitable because they're right." Grade A logical fallacy there Tony, if that's what you were going for. Add an 'someone with a PhD agrees with me, and people who disagree with me look funny' you'd have made a hat-trick.

  • Bra Ket||

    "Once upon a time we used to fight against stereotypes, now we have to celebrate them to avoid being called racists."

    Oh we have to do both. At the same time. And you're a racist anyway, that's already given.

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||

    Brandybuck, you're pointing out how the identity politics crowd has always been fundamentally racist. It's a bunch of white people browbeating you over how weak and dimwitted people of color are, therefore they need care and cultivating, like the wild Orchid.

  • Brandybuck||

    White Man's Burden

  • mpercy||

    Actually, Alejandro was running the meeting...

  • mockmock||

    And if student loan payments to the school are months late will the students mind not being able to start or continue in school?????

  • timbo||

    You know that's where this stuff ends up and gets politicized as the free college stuff. Almost like it is a scripted distraction. Funny how things happen like this every 5 weeks or so . We have not had any outrage on the Obama level in a while. Time for some rioting this summer.

  • ||

    Obviously, punctuality is more socially desirable than tardiness, and a professor has every right to endorse a culture that prefers the former to the latter.

    I as an American refuse to live in a culture where I've been oppressed by other transtemporal cultures that can arrive at a given time and, realizing they're late, just come back earlier.

    Ammend the CRA, I am anti-chronie-ism.

  • Alcibiades||

    $185,000

  • ||

    My mistake, I assumed 'culture' meant in the classical 'geographic, familial, and chronological proximity sense'. They clearly meant 'culture' in the 'works for Comcast' sense. Yeah, you're just going to have to politely wait for you cable guy to show up the designated window. Or not. I don't know that it should be a required part of a college curriculum or training though.

  • SFC B||

    I'd pay money to watch a US student studying abroad explain to a professor in Germany that they just perceive time differently because of their culture.

  • Marty Feldman's Eyes||

    "I don't feel tardy"

  • Leo Kovalensky||

    I wonder what the teacher is going to look like this year??

    *BOOM*, you're slapped with a Title IX lawsuit, Mr. Lee Roth

  • ||

    Dear friends of ours operate on this meta-physical life is all good bull shit; well, at least the wife who comes from South America. They would show up for a 7pm dinner at a restaurant 8pm and she'd be all chill and even said 'this is how it's done in South America.'

    Like I give a shit.

    I'm glad they're all soooo fucking chill but we had to keep explaining to the host our guests were still coming.

    Show respect and be punctual. Apparently, this is called being a tight ass now.

  • Tony||

    I can't relax until everyone and everything is in its place. Spending time in one of those chill cultures would be extremely stressful. It may be down to my people's history of famine.

  • ||

    /taps Tony's forehead gently.

    Is that you, Tony?

  • Tony||

    American etiquette requires that people be on time to stuff. Etiquette differs from culture to culture and its rules can be totally arbitrary, but for social situations you often need a rule just to have one so that everyone can get along. But then I'm not the quasi-anarchist here.

  • Zeb||

    Cultures that don't value punctuality don't tend to be the most prosperous either. Which makes them great places to vacation in or retire to, but not places you want to emulate.

  • Tony||

    Well I'm never on time to work. I'm talking about social situations.

  • AlmightyJB||

    "makes them great places to vacation"

    Except I don't want to wait 30 minutes to get another beer so the bartender can finish their flirting.

  • MarkLastname||

    Objectively, the more 'fluid' etiquette with respect to time is, the more time is wasted waiting for people. It's not a coincidence that northern European countries (and their descendant countries) industrialized faster and came to dominate the world more than southern ones, and the same with Europe in general relative to Africa or central Asia.

    How 'relaxed' a culture is with respect to time (regarding work, certainly) is generally a good metric of how underdeveloped it is.

  • The Last American Hero||

    He can't relax until everyone is in their place. And of course, the Party Members are the best ones to decide what everyone's place is.

  • Zeb||

    My wife used to be like that. I'm very keen on punctuality and have mostly fixed her.

  • Rhywun||

    Show respect

    It really is that simple.

  • cc2||

    I am sure if the dean or provost called a meeting and some faculty were a half hour late, causing the attendees to just sit there, the dean or provost would be totally understanding as long has the person had some other culture as an excuse. Totally understanding. As I am sure the airline will be happy to hold the plane for you while you saunter in late.

    Of course it may be true that when you go to some countries, dinner is at 11pm and people will conduct business when they run into you rather than at a set time. But in OUR culture, meetings begin at a certain time because people are busy and don't like to just sit around waiting for that one last person to show up. Being late is disrespectful of the other people's time and effort to be there.

  • Number 2||

    Just wait and see how understanding the University will be if your cultural definition of timely payment of tuition fees is different from theirs.

  • Bubba Jones||

    Everything at UC Berkeley starts 15 minutes late.

  • Sidd Finch v2.01||

    My rejection letter was prompt.

  • Robert||

    Why not just start w/o them? I don't see what good any of the profferred choices are. They get there when they get there, & nothing you can do changes when they got there.

  • albo||

    CPT

  • Spartacus||

    The training also presents a scenario where a person, "Maxine," expresses skepticism about diversity training, likening it to political correctness run amok. The correct answer here is to challenge Maxine and assert that diversity training is valuable and necessary, according to the module (which is awfully convenient and seems like a conflict of interest on the part of the training's creators).

    It is extremely valuable, maybe even necessary, for those people selling the training modules.

  • The Last American Hero||

    Because that's what authoritarians do, Dano. And authoritarians are your people.

  • John C. Randolph||

    $185 grand? Any Starbucks barista could be equally useless in this role for $30K, tops.

    -jcr

  • Rhywun||

    That's one of the greatest scams going. Anyone who is isn't a sociopath would be ashamed of themselves for pulling it.

  • ||

    Any Starbucks barista could be equally useless in this role for $30K, tops.

    Untrue, the barista would be able to serve hot and iced caffeinated beverages.

  • GILMORE™||

    "Time. Time. What is time? Swiss manufacture it. French hoard it. Italians squander it. Americans say it is money. Hindus say it does not exist. Do you know what I say? I say time is a crook."

    - Peter Lorre in Beat The Devil (1953)

    *words actually written by Billy Wilder i think

  • GILMORE™||

    **correction = Truman Capote. I knew it was someone good.

  • Cynical Asshole||

    Some cultures travel and significant fractions of the speed of light compared to others. Insisting that they should all travel at the same relativistic speed is the height of bigotry. /sarc

  • John C. Randolph||

    So where can someone who wants a real college education find a list of schools that don't waste student's money paying salaries for bullshit apparatchiki like "Chief Diversity Officers"?

    -jcr

  • Agammamon||

    Alejandro should recognize and acknowledge cultural differences with ease and respect," the module asserts. "Time may be considered precise or fluid depending on the culture.

    "Be it so. This disregard of schedules is your custom; come in late. But my nation has also a custom. When men waste my time we hang them, and confiscate all their property. My carpenters shall therefore erect gibbets on which to hang all concerned when the clock strikes nine. Let us all act according to national customs.

  • AlmightyJB||

    When an Islamic fundamentalist enters the classroom, all woman need to be told to leave or your racist.

  • Mickey Rat||

    "Every hour wounds, the last one kills".

  • Longtobefree||

    D: None of the above.
    Start the meeting on time and ignore the lateness of those who are late.
    My meeting, my rules, my culture.

  • tlapp||

    So the message is to show up for class at any time. Then when you go into the job world show up late for your interview. If they don't hire you it is because they are not sensitive to your cultural differences. Then if you do get a job show up late for work and late for meetings because your responsibility to be there and handle the business function for which you are hired is secondary.
    A lesson in how to fail in school and work.

  • Liberty Lover||

    These college snowflakes are going to get a surprise when they actually get a job and find out in corporate culture you better damn well show up on time or you will get fired.

  • Butler T. Reynolds||

    Interestingly, I've noticed in places where I've worked that those who find it relatively easy to show up late don't have any problems being the first ones punctually out the door at the end of the day.

  • Eman||

    John goodman's version of "people like us" is where it's at.

  • mpercy||

    Why Tigers?! Why?!!!

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