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Strikes Without End

Plus: Stephanie Slade's book is out! and more...

Liz Wolfe | 9.2.2026 9:30 AM

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The U.S. and Iran are back at it: Both countries have resumed trading airstrikes this week after mostly pausing for the month of August, when they were attempting to agree to a deal that would reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Then, on August 30, "US forces struck Iranian rocket launchers on its Larak Island" claiming "that the attack on Larak was launched to prevent Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) from laying mines in the Strait of Hormuz," per Breakthrough News. 

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Last night, U.S. Central Command reported that it had struck its adversary's military targets in retaliation for attacks on U.S. troops and ships in the region. The U.S. military allegedly killed four members of the IRGC and 12 people across the south of Iran, per Iranian state outlets. The New York Times is reporting that U.S. forces hit a wedding in the port town of Kuhestak, killing four people (including a child). The "U.S. military never targets civilians, unlike the IRGC," said CENTCOM spokesperson Navy Capt. Tim Hawkins.

The IRGC responded, saying it had targeted U.S. bases in Iraq, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Kuwait, and Jordan; it characterized its strikes as retaliatory, saying the U.S. bombing was a "flagrant violation of human rights" turning an "engagement" event into a "mourning ceremony."

"American evil ⁠in the region will be met with heavier, more widespread, and devastating responses, and any country that cooperates with the aggressive American army must accept its dangerous consequences," said Iran's military command in a statement.

"Asian and European stocks tumbled after the renewed U.S. airstrikes, which pushed oil prices back up to levels unseen since July," reports Reuters, "compounding the economic impact of a global sell-off in bonds as disrupted energy supplies fuel inflation worldwide."

It's not clear what exactly the Trump administration hopes to accomplish at this stage of the war; his negotiations haven't resulted in the opening of the Strait of Hormuz. Iran and other allied groups still routinely fire on ships if they do attempt passage at all; the whole corridor remains destabilized.


Scenes from New York: "Since May, several New Yorkers have reported seeing people venturing in and out of the 7,500-mile network of pipes that make up the city's sewer system," reports The New York Times. "And while these explorations have fueled rumors of an underground society, the Police Department has not established a motive."


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  • "For the first time in recent history, Danish conscripts have been deployed to Greenland, as Denmark moves to bolster its presence in the Arctic ​after U.S. demands to acquire the territory," reports Reuters. "U.S. President Donald Trump has ‌repeatedly sought to acquire the semi-autonomous Danish island, citing national security concerns and accusing Copenhagen of neglecting Arctic defence. Denmark and Greenland have firmly rejected the idea." I'm not sure Trump is intimidated by Danish soldiers, but good for them, I guess.
  • "The 32-year-old Cuban who traveled between Tampa and Miami for work had already spent more than a year in immigration detention centers across the United States. Officers moved him from one jail to another before putting him on a plane in Texas on the morning of July 30," writes Juan Carlos Chavez for the Tampa Bay Times. "No one told Moreno, who originally came to the United States on a temporarily protected basis, where he was going until five hours into the flight, when an immigration officer told him they were going to Africa. 'I honestly thought it was a bad joke because the officer laughed, like he was making fun of me,' Moreno said. A month after arriving in the Central African Republic, Moreno and 35 other immigrants deported on a 21-hour flight remain in Bangui, the country's capital, without passports and no information about what will happen next."
  • "Rhonda Lynn Orr was written out of her aunt's estate in 2013. By the time the pandemic rolled around, she had turned up again in her aunt's life and taken charge of her care," reports The Wall Street Journal. "Soon after, authorities say Orr drained at least $690,000 from her aunt's accounts. Now, Orr is in jail facing charges of theft from a vulnerable adult. Her aunt is under the care of a court-appointed guardian. In an interview from jail, Orr disputed the charges."
  • "The percentage of parents and caregivers in the United States refusing a standard vitamin K shot for infants at ​birth has accelerated sharply this year, an exclusive data analysis for Reuters found, putting more newborns at risk of life-threatening bleeding episodes….In the first half of 2026, the rate of non-receipt was 2.5 times higher than the average rate from 2019 to 2024. It was 1.4 times higher than in 2025."
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  1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Fresh off the last few weeks of screaming about AIPAC, massie is back holding hands with Ro and naming names about epstein.

    https://www.rawstory.com/thomas-massie-epstein-files/

    Declaring people as co conspirators while protected and immune from speech and debate. Not one new name given, all public connections.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      I would be funny if he cared about epstien while Biden was in office

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        All Republicans cared about Epstein when Biden was in office.

        MAGA flipped, not Massie.

        1. Moonrocks   2 months ago

          I don't know, it just seems weird that this paragon of right wing principles only speaks in leftist talking points these days.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            The only Massie stances that are in common with the left is against war (Israel/Gaza, Venezuela, Iran) and the Epstein files. Opposition to the wars is a logical position of America first principles. The left has only favored releasing the Epstein files since Trump came out against it. Both left and right switched sides. Massie held firm.

            Unless you think cutting spending, government debt, opposing government interference in trade, opposing FISA and withdrawing from NATO are leftist ideals.

            The right abandoned traditional conservative principles like justice, isolationism, federalism, limited government, cutting spending and America first. Massie hasn't changed a bit. Those leftist talking points were right wing talking points 2 years ago (with the exception of his Israel stance which has always been libertarian/America first.)

            Following principles over Trump does not make one a leftist.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    It's not clear what exactly the Trump administration hopes to accomplish at this stage of the war; his negotiations haven't resulted in the opening of the Strait of Hormuz.

    My guess would be he hopes to open the Strait of Hormuz.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Or at least keep the mines out of it.

      1. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

        Yeah, you can disagree with what the Trump has been doing with Iran, but the strategic purpose of trying to prevent the straits from being mined seems pretty clear.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Shipping traffick continues to Cline. Mines are cleared out of the strait. Iranian responses are almost laughable at this point, such as their attack yesterday. You see a spiraling regime throwing a tantrum.

      1. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

        Mines are being cleared by tankers that are hitting them. The absolute best outcome is we go back to the status quo before the war, and that seems remote given:
        * Iran is determined to toll the strait
        * Iran's leaders are more radical now
        So, all this money, all these high gas prices (which I love, the more you faggots suffer the better), all these lies about winning 100 times for nothing at best.

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          Zero ships have struck sea mines in the Strait of Hormuz.
          “No ships have hit mines in the Strait of Hormuz. This is yet another IRGC attempt to intimidate regional commercial shipping through disinformation.” -- [U.S. Central Command].

          Poor sarc fu

          1. mtrueman   2 months ago

            -- [U.S. Central Command].

            Consider the source.

        2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Lol. God damn sarc. Do you even try to research maddow claims before posting? You are literally falling for IRGC lies. Hilarious.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Since May, several New Yorkers have reported seeing people venturing in and out of the 7,500-mile network of pipes that make up the city's sewer system...

    C.H.U.D.s. Maybe vampires. Or Jews. Or Hamas. Or Charlie.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      It cleaner down there .

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        Don't you mean down here. I got my eye on you.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Im still monitoring your British English spelling tendencies....

          1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

            Could have been Canuckistani.

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              I would never shame you with that accusation.

        2. mad.casual   2 months ago

          I got my eye on you.

          Just the one? Mutant status confirmed.

          1. NealAppeal   2 months ago

            You top-siders are all the same.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        We all float down here.

    2. Minadin   2 months ago

      It's the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, obviously.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Recycling the old material of a superior civilization above you? Just like a sewer-dwelling mutant.

    4. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Chudley dudley ho ho ho!

    5. Agammamon   2 months ago

      I mean, the Jews in NYC already got caught tunnelling . . .

  4. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Man I miss Harsanyi, back when reason was better.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/in_focus/4707613/gaza-genocide-hoax-israel/#google_vignette

    Yes, the famine and genocide claims remain a hoax.

    According to UNICEF, there are around 20,000 babies in the entirety of Gaza. Which means 70% of all infants were in danger of dying in mere hours. An “utterly chilling” figure, Fletcher stressed.

    The New York Times, along with numerous other establishment media outlets, relayed Fletcher’s allegation to its credulous audience without any skepticism. The usual experts were summoned to discuss this unfolding famine on cable news. And the antisemites across social media amplified the claim.

    No matter how far-fetched a story is about Israel, including preposterous evidence-free accusations that it trains dogs to rape Palestinians, papers such as the New York Times will spread it to feed the perception that the Jewish state operates as a genocidal entity. And no matter how often the claims are debunked, they keep at it.

    Of course all the claims are false. Lowest regional malnutrition rates. Higher levels of obesity. Then stuff like this.

    Aid did reach them. Lots and lots of aid. The U.S.-Israeli Gaza Humanitarian Foundation delivered around 187 million meal equivalents, plus produce, and over 1 million packs of supplementary food for children to Palestinians before the ceasefire.

    Another report found that, despite Hamas’s tactic of pilfering international aid to control the population, Israel had provided Gaza with triple the food it needed during the ceasefire. Data showed malnutrition was lower than prewar levels.

    Some genocide.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      "Queers for fat(ter), homicidal Palestinians" doesn't have the same ring to it.

    2. Marshal   2 months ago

      This is the ultimate purpose of academics asserting that objective truth doesn't exist. Once you internalize that belief the rational step of determining whether something is actually true can be omitted and therefore propaganda becomes far easier.

      1. mtrueman   2 months ago

        "This is the ultimate purpose of academics asserting that objective truth doesn't exist."

        Isn't that government's purpose? It's governments denying the genocide. Those who claim it's genocide are not members of the governments involved, or academics, but people like doctors who are reporting from Gaza directly.

        1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

          Misconstrueman with more propaganda. Those claiming it is genocide are you- wrong. Liars. Damn dirty liars, like yourself.

        2. Marshal   2 months ago

          It's governments denying the genocide.

          Whether they are government or not is incidental, the rational answer as to whether there is a genocide is based on the facts and circumstances and thus the answer is no. The question for left wingers is whether it helps leftist politics for there to be a genocide and thus their answer is yes.

          Academics lead the movement to break the link between assertion and facts specifically so they did not have to defend their political claims. As we see in this case there is no geocide but left wingers simply assert there is and threaten to excommunicate anyone who doesn't fall in line.

          1. mtrueman   2 months ago

            "Whether they are government or not is incidental, the rational answer as to whether there is a genocide is based on the facts and circumstances and thus the answer is no. "

            No, it's not incidental. A government perpetrating or abetting a genocide has every reason to deny it. Genocide is an affront to humanity and a war crime. Not even the Nazis could admit to it.

            "but left wingers simply assert there is and threaten to excommunicate anyone who doesn't fall in line."

            You haven't thought this through but simply repeating talking points you've heard. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, the highest placed leftists in the government this century, both denied genocide and were reliable supporters of Israel as she carried out her atrocities. Like JesseAz (RIP CK) here, they relied on the same sources to bolster their false claims.

            To repeat, doctors on the ground in Gaza are not government bureaucrats, not academics, not members of the Israeli military, but witnesses who have left us ample records of their experience in Gaza. I understand you either have no idea what they experienced or are motivated to dismiss it tout court as it belies the official line of Biden, Trump, and Netanyahu.

    3. mtrueman   2 months ago

      "Some genocide."

      Consider the source. American and Israeli government sources can be expected to deny the charges of genocide and lie to minimize the plight of Palestinians and blame their leadership. That's exactly what you have here. As I say, it's entirely predictable. The Nazis denied their war crimes and lied to cover them up.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    I'm not sure Trump is intimidated by Danish soldiers, but good for them, I guess.

    BASED.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Gotta love libertarian patriotism in support of conscripts to the King of Denmark.

  6. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Britain, despite laws against it, nowhas a migrant child marriage problem, some as young as 5. Mohammed would be proud.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/barbaric-children-under-five-being-subjected-forced-marriage-britain

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Cultural enrichment.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      Britain has fallen.

    3. Agammamon   2 months ago

      But . . . but, they provided a *pamphlet* and everything!

  7. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    What is with democrats and disappearing money?

    https://redstate.com/ben-smith/2026/09/01/katie-hobbs-campaign-amended-its-filing-10-times-14-million-still-vanished-n2206373

    The Daily Caller flagged the numbers Monday. Elect Katie Hobbs originally reported $1,426,552 in exempt small contributions for the second quarter of 2026. Those are donations under $100 that can be reported in aggregate. The first amended report carried the same number.

    Then the number went to zero.

    It stayed at zero in the third amended report. The fourth amendment brought $394,785 back onto the books. After six more amendments, Hobbs' campaign reported $394,802 in the category.

    The rest of the report moved around too.

    Hobbs originally reported $2.64 million in total receipts. The first amendment put that at $3.1 million. The second cut it to $1.68 million. The third put it at $2.26 million before later versions settled back around $2.65 million.

    Also in the report the huge number of unemployed "donors", over 75k.

  8. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    More DSA party leaders whose families gave them everything.

    https://nypost.com/2026/08/29/us-news/dsa-leader-sold-luxe-nyc-triplex-for-nearly-2-5-million-used-profits-to-buy-pad-in-brooklyn/

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    No one told Moreno, who originally came to the United States on a temporarily protected basis, where he was going until five hours into the flight, when an immigration officer told him they were going to Africa.

    [QUALIFIER: Assuming this story is true and complete]

    It's like the Trump administration is determined to push anyone on the fence about his immigration enforcement in the wrong direction.

  10. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Canada declares they wont renegotiate with trump until the memes stop.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2026/09/01/stop-doing-memes-carney-urges-us-to-drop-theatrics-01059983?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Hilarious a country is brought down by memes.

    1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   2 months ago

      I know... hilarious, right?? What a ridiculous country. Thankfully Trump himself has done absolutely nothing wrong whatsoever in these trade negotiations - 100% of ALL the blame clearly rests on only one side of the border - the northern side, for the directionally challenged. Those silly canucks.

      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

        To be fair, Carney could have taken the high road, but he did not.

        1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   2 months ago

          Agreed. Thankfully Trump has never taken the high road once in his life.. hell, I'm not sure why they're fighting at all. These two should be BFF's. Seriously.

        2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Do as I say, not as I do. The liberal left in a nut shell.

          https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/mark-carney-mocks-trump-with-whiskey-joke-amid-trade-tension-anyone-had-any-101775995613579.html

          He just sucks at it.

  11. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    And finally...

    Shooting at a gay bar parking lot in Arizona last night, so youll see all the claims of right wing hate crime violence. What the vast majority of sources wont tell you is thr shooter is an African Muslim immigrant.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      But right-wing violence is WAY worse than left-wing violence. Biden's DOJ said so!!!

      1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   2 months ago

        Yes!! Thankfully we have MAGA reminding us that left-wing violence is WAY worse than right-wing violence.

        1. Minadin   2 months ago

          It's not worse, it's just far, far more common.

          1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   2 months ago

            Distinction without a difference. Rational, sensible people (MAGA need not apply) understand these things always ebb and flow - left-wing violence may well be higher now. Right-wing violence has been higher in the past. None of that is relevant in any fundamental way, except in regards to data collection - objectively ALL violence is bad. Thus it's only simpletons/cultists who bother making that distinction.

            Except murder and rape by "illegal" immigrants, of course... far, FAR worse than murder and rape commited by citizens.

            1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

              Except murder and rape by "illegal" immigrants, of course... far, FAR worse than murder and rape commited by citizens.

              It is worse, because it could have easily been prevented.

              1. See.More   2 months ago

                Except murder and rape by "illegal" immigrants, of course... far, FAR worse than murder and rape commited by citizens.

                It is worse, because it could have easily been prevented.

                I aver that it is worse because it is so often excused by progressive apologists.

                1. mtrueman   2 months ago

                  "Except murder and rape by "illegal" immigrants, of course... far, FAR worse than murder and rape commited by citizens."

                  if it's worse, then it's only fitting that illegal immigrant criminals should be punished not by citizens, but other illegal immigrant criminals. Let the punishment fit the crime.
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWKrAQAhu-k
                  (Christopher Lee sings A More Humane Mikado)

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      The Cato study classified Muslim violence as right wing

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        To be fair, they declared all non self declared leftist violence as right wing. Even many of the climate protest damages were because it was against the government.

      2. Zeb   2 months ago

        I suppose it sort of is. There's nothing liberal or progressive about Islam, even if they align with the Western left for strategic reasons.
        Of course, it's also completely distinct from the American right.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Who did islam largely align with in ww2?

          1. Zeb   2 months ago

            I'm not saying that it's not intentionally deceptive and misleading to lump Islamic attacks in the US in with "right wing violence". Simply that it's in service of a conservative religious ideology and in that sense it's right-wing. Just not typical American right-wing. My point, to the extent that I have one beyond being pedantic, is that it's better to actually describe things than to use oversimplified labels to categorize them since most things don't really fit well in binary categories.

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              I dont associate the word conservative with religion, they are distinct. See how far left Baptists and others have turned.

              And ironically Islam does link politics with religion and it aligns much more with the left than it does the right, at least the modern left.

              I find it a false descriptor and easy out to blame right wing politics when all history disagrees with that interpretation.

              To me it is a long repeated trope that has become fact theough repetition instead of analysis.

              1. Zeb   2 months ago

                Seems to me that the protestant sects who have gone all lefty have given up on being conservative about religion (I don't know much about baptists, but I see it in the mainline protestant denominations I am more familiar with). "Conservative" only means anything in context. What are you trying to conserve? Which is why I say describe what you are actually talking about rather than using facile labels that provide very little actual information.

                1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                  protestant sects who have gone all lefty have given up on being conservative about religion

                  I'll make two points.

                  1) this is of the claim that conservative equals no change and nothing else, not based on actual politics. Both sides seek change. Just one side is much louder.

                  2) this shows that politics and religions are distinct. With catholic charities at the forefront of illegal immigration support, are they conservative?

                  Thats why defaulting to religion = conservative is misplaced. And on top of that defaulting to conservative = statys quo is also wrong.

                  The right wants massive welfare reform, this is change. But based on the simplistic definition of conservative often trotted out, it means that idea is liberal as it requires change.

                  It is why I absolutely hate those definitions.

                  1. Zeb   2 months ago

                    Me too. And I am not saying religious = conservative. I'm saying it's not as simple as observing that Islam has tended to side with leftists and concluding that therefore every Islamic act of violence is leftist. Are you really trying to say that a Muslim shooting up a gay bar, presumably because he thinks gays are immoral and are properly punished by death, is at all leftist/progressive/liberal? I'll reiterate my point: simple labels like left/right or liberal/conservative are very low resolution and don't provide a lot of useful information about a person or his motivations. If this attack was motivated by what I assume it was, then it has nothing to do with leftist economics or politics, but with a traditional religious view of morality and what society should look like. Which I would identify as conservative. But I would also say that it is intentionally deceptive to add it to the tally of right-wing violence in the US as most people understand that to mean coming from the American political right, not conservative Islam.

                    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                      I would say it is much closer to the lefts hy any means necessary than it is with the rights stop inundating me with shit takes.

        2. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

          It is like Schrodinger's cat- Islamist violence counts as right-wing violence when used to quantufy the threat from the right-wing, but does not when they want to deflect attention from Islamist terrorism.

        3. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Of course, it's also completely distinct from the American right.

          Any right.

          SSDD - For all the reverence for the Nolan chart, democracy, republicanism, fascism, technological progress, social "progress", monarchy, and theocracy don't fit in a neat little line.

          1. Zeb   2 months ago

            That's pretty much my point. Left/right doesn't always apply to every situation. I like American conservatism OK because it tends to be for individual rights and general freedom. That doesn't mean that everything that might be described as conservative fits that mold, or that conservative is always good or aligned with the American conservative tradition.

          2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Obama is right wing on the latest charts. Bernie a centrist.

        4. Marshal   2 months ago

          Their support for socialism and government control puts them solidly on the left.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            And centralized power structures.

          2. Zeb   2 months ago

            And you know that this asshole supports those things how? Even that is beside the point. It's possible to be left wing on some things and right wing on others. Not everything fits into neat political categories. Certainly not islamists. They align with the left on many things. But it's absurd to say that something like Sharia law, for example, isn't very conservative and traditionalist. "Conservative" isn't a specific ideology. It is an orientation towards preserving and maintaining traditional social and political structures.

            1. Marshal   2 months ago

              And you know that this asshole supports those things how?

              Hmmm. It's interesting you defend the classification not on this person's specific beliefs but instead on his identity group's beliefs here:

              I suppose it sort of is. There's nothing liberal or progressive about Islam,

              But then you turn around and claim addressing his identity group's beliefs is invalid apparently believing it's some kind of gotcha. Naturally it was ok when you did it.

              But it's absurd to say that something like Sharia law, for example, isn't very conservative

              This is a ridiculous argument. In reality progressives defend Sharia far more than conservatives as part of their victim- hierarchy framework of the world. To leftists Sharia is just another set of laws if anything superior to ours because it isn't a reflection of white supremacy. You're letting your desire to find something to blame on conservatives lead you astray.

              "Conservative" isn't a specific ideology. It is an orientation towards preserving and maintaining traditional social and political structures.

              And in this country that is not Sharia, it is the Locke / Mills framework of the enlightenment. Left wingers claim Muslims are conservative because it amuses them in the same way calling people on the right American Taliban amuses them, not because it reflects reality. In reality Muslims who support Sharia are radical revolutionaries, not conservatives.

              1. Zeb   2 months ago

                Leftists are shallow idiots for the most part. The fact they sometimes defend Sharia doesn't mean sharia is leftist, it means American leftists are inconsistent, reactionary idiots who will be for anything that they perceive conservatives to be against.
                And I'm not trying to blame anything on (American) conservatives. I say elsewhere that I am quite sympathetic to American conservatism. I'm trying to discuss something that interests me, which is the subtleties of how conservatism and left/right are defined. But you seem determined to miss the point and (incorrectly) assume what my motivations are.

                1. Marshal   2 months ago

                  The fact they sometimes defend Sharia doesn't mean sharia is leftist,

                  You don't need to reference the people to understand the concept of Sharia is revolutionary where it is not part of the historical tradition. Ask yourself how Sharia meets your own definition:

                  It is an orientation towards preserving and maintaining traditional social and political structures.

                  Where has Sharia been a traditional social or political structure in America?

                  But you seem determined to miss the point

                  I am determined to make the correct point.

                  1. Zeb   2 months ago

                    There are many correct points to be made, that doesn't mean you need to make them in every conversation. You are arguing against things I didn't write. Aside from your accusations towards me, I generally agree with your points, but they are not relevant to what I'm trying to say. Try reading what I have written in this thread. I said in my first comment that the attack is conservative in a way but not at all in line with the American right. So you don't need to convince me of that.

            2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              I would argue the entirety of Islamic orthodoxy is about disrupting and taking over others centers. Undoing the traditional social and political structures of others.

              1. Zeb   2 months ago

                I agree. So it's conservative/traditional for them and radical for the people they are doing it to. Which again demonstrates my point that it's not as simple as left/right or liberal/progressive/conservative.

    3. See.More   2 months ago

      [...] What the vast majority of sources wont tell you is thr [sic] shooter is an African Muslim immigrant.

      Uh... but... definitionally... religious intolerance of faggotry is right wing hate. Right? At least, that's what they say.

      Soooooo... shooting at gay a bar by a Muslim (point of origin is irrelevant) -- assuming it was motivated by religious intolerance and not anger at being rejected by a twink or dyke -- is a right wing hate crime.

  12. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

    The percentage of parents and caregivers in the United States refusing a standard vitamin K shot for infants at ​birth has accelerated sharply this year, an exclusive data analysis for Reuters found, putting more newborns at risk of life-threatening bleeding episodes

    I read the literature about K injections and quit when the propaganda said "95% effective and no known side effects"
    All written by pharmaceutical companies and NIH.

    They wonder why people distrust "science"

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      They can blame any deaths from it on Measles at least.

    2. BYODB   2 months ago

      Vitamin K shots have been the standard for going on 60 years now.

      What side effects, precisely, do you think there are?

      1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   2 months ago

        Wait 'till he figures out that fluoride has been in drinking water for - gulp - 80 years.

        1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

          Not in my well you fucking bleating urbanite.

          1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   2 months ago

            Ooohh it's there.. don't chu worry your pretty little head about that. How does an upstanding, rational truther like yourself not know the democrats government has been double-ultra-secretly putting flouride in the groundwater for decades? #Facts.

      2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        Ah, the "standard" for 60 years. Did kids just bleed out 61 years ago? Are the kids whose parents refused the K-jab bleeding out more than kids who are K-jabbed? Are the kids who are given K supplements more susceptible than the jabbed kids?

        Don't just repeat what J&J says. Sell me on your "standard".

        1. BYODB   2 months ago


          Did kids just bleed out 61 years ago?

          Yes, as a matter of fact. Not all of them, obviously, but is it seriously news to you that child mortality was much, much higher in the past?

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            There are other reasons child mortality has gone down besides the vitamin k shot....

            1. BYODB   2 months ago

              No shit, it's also true that vitamin K shots contribute to less child mortality.

              I get that COVID broke a lot of people and caused a lot of mistrust of the medical establishment, and rightfully so, but some people have taken that mistrust too far.

              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                Im not arguing against it, but I also agree that "we've always done it that way" is also a terrible argument.

                Seems like it could be simplified with a blood draw and only administering cases it is needed, since they do a test anyways.

                1. BYODB   2 months ago

                  The argument wasn't that 'we've always done it' the argument is there have been longitudinal studies on this, unlike COVID 'vaccines'.

                  I could have been clearer about that, but it's still true.

            2. See.More   2 months ago

              There are other reasons child mortality has gone down [...]

              Which is absolutely a un-discussed factor in declining birth rates. The fact is that it is much more likely that a child will survive to adulthood than ever before which contributes to couples having fewer children.

          2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

            I'm aware of the past, but K isn't the miracle you and Liz think it is.
            7.1 to 5.4 per 1000 since 1950. All infant mortality.

            Early 20th Century (1915–1950): The rate dropped steeply from roughly 99.9 deaths per 1,000 live births in 1915 to 29.2 per 1,000 by 1950.

            Late 20th Century (1950–2000): Widespread availability of neonatal intensive care units (NICUs), advanced ventilator technology for premature infants, and public health campaigns pushed the rate down further to roughly 7.1 per 1,000 by 1999

            Recent Decades (2000–Present): The rate continued a slow overall downward trend, hitting record lows near 5.4 to 5.5 per 1,000 births, aided by new medical tools such as RSV vaccines and antibody treatments for infants.

            1. BYODB   2 months ago

              Point to where I claimed it was a miracle.

              It's your choice not to get it, but I have to wonder if your family has any history of vitamin K allergy. Surely they must, right?

              1. mad.casual   2 months ago

                Point to where I claimed it was a miracle.

                This is key. Both sides are at the bottom of the barrel here.

                Vitamin K isn't propping up Pfizer or putting Fauci at the head of the NIAID. For approximately every family with 3 kids, it was saving their fourth. Now that dramatically fewer families are having as many kids it's both less important, and more, and Vitamin K itself hasn't gotten any more expensive, or dangerous.

                Vitamin K bleeding isn't some infectious disease that's going to kill millions in the next "two weeks" and, as indicated, they aren't mandatory and/or can be refused.

              2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

                No, my family is allergic to government mandates regarding bodily autonomy. I can understand the need for vaccines, but K injections?

                1. BYODB   2 months ago

                  You aren't mandated to get it, it's an option offered by every American hospital and the majority of credentialed midwives.

                  I think we'd both agree that hospitals alerting CPS to parents that refuse to get it is a problem though, so perhaps we can just agree to disagree otherwise.

                  1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

                    Not mandated but pressured. Pressure bordering threats.
                    Same with HPV for a newborn daughter.
                    Covid was the same.

                    1. BYODB   2 months ago

                      They absolutely shouldn't try to give an HPV vaccination to a newborn of any gender, normally that's recommended for preteens.

                    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

                      HEP-B probably, not HPV, which is recommended at 11 years old.

      3. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

        Common Side EffectsInjection site reactions:
        Pain, swelling, redness, or a hard lump can occur where a vitamin K shot was given.
        Mild digestive upset: Oral supplements or Vitamin K2 can sometimes cause nausea, stomach pain, or diarrhea.
        Unusual taste: A strange or unpleasant taste in the mouth may happen after an injection.
        Serious Side Effects
        Severe allergic reactions (Anaphylaxis): Rare, but serious, reactions can cause breathing trouble, wheezing, throat tightness, a racing heart, hives, or swelling of the face and lips. These are most common with intravenous (IV) administration.
        Jaundice and liver issues: High doses in newborns can cause hyperbilirubinemia (excess bilirubin), leading to yellowing of the skin or eyes (jaundice), hemolytic anemia, and potential brain damage. Large doses can also worsen clotting problems in people with severe liver disease.

        So not 100%safe and effective with no downsides..

        1. BYODB   2 months ago

          You'll note several of those are listed potential side effects for every medication under the sun, most especially the 'don't take this if you're deathly allergic to it'.

          You aren't wrong that there are potential side effects, but it's equally important to be honest about how often those occur.

          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

            You asked what were the side effects.

            1. BYODB   2 months ago

              It was rhetorical, I was curious if Bob knew.

              1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

                I’m guessing he does now. Wonder if it will change his stance.

      4. Agammamon   2 months ago

        The companion questions are - what are the shots supposed to fix, what was the rate before the shots, and how much did the shots improve things?

        It could have absolutely no side effects and still not be worth doing.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      All written by pharmaceutical companies and NIH.

      If Vitamin K is propping up your pharmaceutical empire, please write a newsletter.

      IMO, if the parents are aware enough to reject them, they're aware enough for the rest of us to not give a shit about any consequences one way or the other.

      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

        What is worse, harm comes to your baby because you administered a vaccine, or because you did not?

      2. BYODB   2 months ago

        Fair enough, parents do have agency and sign informed consent waivers if they refuse.

        What is disgusting, and it goes unmentioned here, is that child neglect charges have been brought over the refusal. That's a real problem in my mind. You can't give someone the ability to opt out, then charge them with child neglect if you do. That's just gross.

        1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

          You can't give someone the ability to opt out, then charge them with child neglect if you do. That's just gross.

          This is what I should've said 5 comments ago. Thanks

          1. mad.casual   2 months ago

            Yeah, charges for neglect is pretty fucked up. Did anyone "recommend" to Lindsay Clancy that she not strangle her 3 kids?

            1. BYODB   2 months ago

              It doesn't matter, Clancy is a woman therefore she has no agency and isn't responsible for her own actions.

              -Feminists

              /sarc

              More seriously, when did 'feminist' become a desire to return to pre-1950's social roles for women in most respects? It's fucking bizarre.

              1. mad.casual   2 months ago

                In 1883, Joseph Granville invented the "personal massager" to treat muscle pain and it was later used in the home to treat various ailments such as constipation and headaches. In 1999, feminists retconned the whole story that it was invented by male psychologists to treat "female hysteria". Granville himself wrote: "I have never yet percussed a female patient ... I have avoided, and shall continue to avoid the treatment of women by percussion, simply because I do not wish to be hoodwinked, and help to mislead others, by the vagaries of the hysterical state."

                And people wonder why the voices of philosophy carried into the modern age from antiquity are predominantly male.

              2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

                People defending her by saying she didn't do it (blaming her husband) haven't read her lawsuit against her medical providers...

                As a direct result of Defendants' negligence, Lindsay suffered catastrophic physical
                injuries, including permanent paralysis, and she lost her three beloved children—CoraMarie
                Clancy, Dawson William Clancy, and Callan Patrick Clancy. Lindsay novv faces a lifetime of
                physical disability, psychological trauma, and the unbearable grief of vvaking up every day
                knowing she killed her children—allofwhich could have been prevented had Defendants
                provided competent medical care.

                77. As soon as Patrick left to pick up the food, there vvas a loud, demanding, repetitious
                voice: "This is your last chance. Kill the children so you can kill yourself." "THIS IS YOUR
                LAST CHANCE. YOU HAVE TO KILL THE KIDS SO YOU CAN KILL YOURSELF."
                Lindsay felt a force come over her.

                78. Lindsay experienced conimand auditory hallucinations: a "demanding, powerful male
                voice explicitly ordered her. She felt an overwhelming, irresistible compulsion to comply,
                entering a dissociative "dream-like state" where her physical actions felt utterly disconnected
                from her conscious volition. She perceived her "body wasjust acting" and she was merely
                watching [herselfj do it. She reported she had "no choice" but to follow these compelling
                directives.

                79. Lindsay described: "I lost all control. My body started acting vvithout any control on
                my part. 1 vvasjust following commands, 'all action.' This voice demanded action."

                80. Lindsay proceeded to strangle each ofher children, uttering "Go to God, baby."
                Following these acts, she undertook a severe suicide attempt, ingesting a substantial quantity of
                various medications, self-inflicting lacerations to her wrists and neck, andjumping f'rom a
                second-floor window approximately twenty feet to the ground below

                109. As a result ofthe foregoing, Lindsay is entitled to recover damages from Defendants
                including, without limitation, past and future medical expenses, past and future lost vvages, pain
                and suffering, emotional distress, including the knowledge that she killed her children, loss of
                enjoyment oflife, permanent disability, and other damages in an amount to be determined at
                trial

                1. mad.casual   2 months ago

                  demanding, powerful male voice explicitly ordered her

                  The disembodied voice sounded like it had a penis.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The percentage of parents and caregivers in the United States refusing a standard vitamin K shot for infants at ​birth has accelerated sharply this year...

    Big K is at it again. No wonder the lobby capital of the world is K Street. Connect the dots.

  14. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    "The 32-year-old Cuban who traveled between Tampa and Miami for work had already spent more than a year in immigration detention centers across the United States. Officers moved him from one jail to another before putting him on a plane in Texas on the morning of July 30,"

    There was one option to avoid this he refused to take.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Was going to say this, too.

  15. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Iran and other allied groups

    What the fuck is this phrasing? Do you mean their terror proxies?

    1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Iran and bad bunny

      Fixed. Are you happy now?

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        I couldnt understand the last part of that fix. Came across as mumbling with a heavy bass line.

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          But it’s the most popular fix in the world!

  16. Ajsloss   2 months ago

    Isn't it weird how often "weddings" get bombed? I live in a city of about a million people and if bombs were dropped randomly, I doubt they would happen to hit a wedding or graduation or AIDS walk or the like.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      It's always day cares or weddings. That's because in muzlim countries the put day cares on munition stock piles, and hold weddings their for the child brides.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Watch out britain.

    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      Something to do with a scheduled event with known attendees is my guess.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Some women time their wedding and pick their venue for the fall leaves, others for falling munitions. Some men dodge a bullet, some men don't.

    4. Moonrocks   2 months ago

      Kind of like how every building becomes a mosque or a hospital, every combatant becomes a child or journalist, every general becomes a moderate or pragmatist, etc.

  17. mad.casual   2 months ago

    Rhonda Lynn Orr

    When I Google this name, the first thing that comes up is a woman featured in a crime drama show who murdered her disabled husband via arson in 2003.

    Whether this is her or not, why should I care? Maybe she stole $690k, maybe she didn't.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      I think she was just treating her mother's autism.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      You don't find it newsworthy that a woman might have to face accountability?

  18. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    No one told Moreno, who originally came to the United States on a temporarily protected basis, where he was going until five hours into the flight, when an immigration officer told him they were going to Africa.

    What’s he complaining about? Lots of people dream of traveling the world, and he’s doing it for free.

  19. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    It's not clear what exactly the Trump administration hopes to accomplish at this stage of the war;

    To get out of it, back to the status quo before the war. What a waste of billions, we have to print more of to fund this.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      The status quo of 40 years of terrorism by proxy, including all the costs from attacks and risk insurance?

  20. mad.casual   2 months ago

    So do we think JD is taking Usha with him back in time to meet Papaw, or no…

    How about we send the Fake Doctor to meet Papaw so he can ask him himself?

    El-Sayed's comment isn't even nasty, just stupid. It just shows that they *need* the retrograde tribalism to make themselves look legitimate.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Here's a whole list of El-Sayed's stupid nasty comments...

      https://townhall.com/news/mattvespa/2026/09/01/we-found-every-911-tweet-abdul-el-sayed-deleted-you-might-want-to-take-a-seat-n2682290

  21. Agammamon   2 months ago

    >"The 32-year-old Cuban who traveled between Tampa and Miami f

    This story is like a month old Wolfe. I've been bitching about Reasons lack of defense of this guy - how the US has lost out to Africa because this illegal immigrant will now economically improve Congo rather than the US but Reason has kept ignoring it.

    1. Agammamon   2 months ago

      >advocates because immigrants can be sent to places where they have no ties and may face safety concerns, violence and language barriers.

      A ton of these people do not speak English - yet these 'activists' are not concerned about the language barrier or lack of ties when they are in the US.

  22. Agammamon   2 months ago

    >"The percentage of parents and caregivers in the United States refusing a standard vitamin K shot

    Probably shouldn't have lied to people about Covid. All it accomplished is allowing the crazy to spread.

  23. Agammamon   2 months ago

    >So do we think JD is taking Usha with him back in time to meet Papaw, or no…

    Papaw would have no issues with Usha;) White people actually aren't as racist as non-whites are.

    1. mtrueman   2 months ago

      Usha's race wouldn't be a problem for papaw. Indians from India are Caucasians just like Europeans from Europe. Papaw's problem with Usha is not her race but the color of her skin. It's a lot darker than that of a proper white person.

    2. mtrueman   2 months ago

      Papaw wouldn't like the color of her skin. Too dark. Not just pawpaw. Go to India, Usha's country of origin, you'll find plenty of Indians who have contempt for people of Usha's skin color. Some Indians are essentially indistinguishable from southern Europe. Al Pacino, for example, could easily pass for a native of Afghanistan, Kashmir or Himachal Pradesh. Everyone else is darker and Usha is, at best, 'wheatish.'

      I don't suppose you've spent much time watching commercials on Indian TV. The number of skin lightener products, primarily aimed at wheatish women aiming for whiteness, was a surprise to me.

  24. See.More   2 months ago

    BUY THE DAMN THING if you know what's good for you.

    Fuck off slaver!

    1. Horatio Cornblower   2 months ago

      This made me laugh

  25. Moonrocks   2 months ago

    For the first time in recent history, Danish conscripts have been deployed to Greenland, as Denmark moves to bolster its presence in the Arctic ​after U.S. demands to acquire the territory

    A year and a half later. Not a great response time.

    1. BYODB   2 months ago


      U.S. President Donald Trump has repeatedly ‌sought to acquire the semi-autonomous Danish ‌island, citing national security concerns and accusing Copenhagen of neglecting Arctic defence. Denmark and ⁠Greenland have ⁠firmly rejected the idea.


      Copenhagen has pledged ⁠billions of ​dollars to strengthen Arctic defences after Denmark's defence minister acknowledged years of underinvestment in the ​region.

      Man, it's almost like they're saying Trump was right.

    2. NealAppeal   2 months ago

      So making them cover their own defense...like the Bad Orange Man wanted?

  26. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    C.J. Roberts ripped by Esquire for joining the liberals in dissent?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/chief-justice-john-roberts-just-summed-up-his-entire-tenure-in-one-pathetic-dissent/ar-AA2bnmXz

    In his own meek, shambling way, Chief Justice John Roberts managed to sum up his entire tenure as putative leader of the United States Supreme Court.

    At question was whether or not the president should be allowed to continue building his stupid ballroom despite the objections of preservationists and other citizens who are not vulgar talking yams.

    [Yeah, that's not what was at question...]

  27. Moonrocks   2 months ago

    The percentage of parents and caregivers in the United States refusing a standard vitamin K shot for infants at ​birth has accelerated sharply this year

    Fallout from the "Trust the Science" episode. I'm not sure how the medical establishment regains its credibility after it made itself clear that it wasn't interested in patients' wellbeing and that it will say and do anything to advance whatever interest it does have, but it won't be easy.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      https://slate.com/technology/2021/07/noble-lies-covid-fauci-cdc-masks.html

      We worry that vaccine policy among supporters of vaccines is increasingly anchored to the irrational views of those who oppose them—by always pursuing the opposite. Exaggerating the risk of the virus in the moment and failing to explore middle ground positions appear to be the antithesis of the anti-vax movement, which is an extremist effort to refuse vaccination. This seems a reflexive attempt to vaccinate at all costs—by creating fear in the public (despite falling adolescent rates) and pushing the notion that two doses of mRNA at the current dose level or nothing at all are the only two choices—a logical error called the fallacy of the excluded middle.

      Noble lies—small untruths—yield unpredictable outcomes. Nietzsche once wrote, “Not that you lied to me, but that I no longer believe you, has shaken me.” Public health messaging is predicated on trust, which overcomes the enormous complexity of the scientific literature, creating an opportunity to communicate initiatives effectively. Still, violation of this trust renders the communication unreliable. When trust is shattered, messaging is no longer clear and straightforward, and instead results in the audience trying to reverse-engineer the statement based on their view of the speaker’s intent. Simply put, noble lies can rob confidence from the public, leading to confusion, a loss of credibility, conspiracy theories, and obfuscated policy.

      Noble lies are a trap. We cannot predict the public’s behavior, and loss of trust is devastating. The general population is far too skeptical to blindly follow the advice of experts, and far too intelligent to be easily duped.

  28. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Maryland fathers (in Wisconsin)? The intersectionality is interesting...Not only are the two illegal aliens, but the Dane County authorities refused to honor an ICE detainer on at least one of them.

    https://fox47.com/news/local/men-charged-in-sexual-assault-against-transgender-woman-at-madison-pier

    Two Fitchburg men were arrested following a reported sexual assault early Saturday at Goodspeed Family Pier near Alumni Park, UW-Madison police said.

    Two Fitchburg men accused of sexually assaulting a transgender woman early Saturday are charged.

    Yorfred Marcano Gutierrez, 31, and Arturo Santos Albujas, 27, each face charges of second-degree sexual assault, strangulation and suffocation, and battery and false imprisonment. The sexual assault, strangulation and false-imprisonment charges include party-to-a-crime modifiers for Albujas.

    Officers responded at about 4:12 a.m. to reports of a struggle at the Goodspeed Family Pier by Memorial Union.

    As an officer approached the three people, the woman adjusted her clothing and said, “These guys raped me. They tried to f---- kill me,” the criminal complaint states.

    1. BYODB   2 months ago

      The 'transgender woman' is a guy as far as I can tell since one of the defendants mentioned he wasn't gay.

      They might have targeted him because of his 'gender identity' but I kind of have to wonder about the rape allegation.

      Also kind of think that, if true, maybe the defendants are at least a little gay.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        However accurate "Two gay men who aren't from Fitchburg raped a man dressed as a woman" may be, it is too inconvenient to too many narratives.

  29. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    More Jew (self)hatred? In this case, just bowing to generic Muslim suckage, which always includes a healthy dose of anitsemitism, so that the Democrats can carry the day.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/michigan-s-attorney-general-raises-eyebrows-for-telling-jews-to-sacrifice-safety-for-broader-interests/ar-AA2bn1fc?ctsrc=dgst

    Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel suggested over the weekend Jews should sacrifice their safety for the greater good, triggering backlash from critics who said she caved to the “mob” of antisemites in her party.

    On Sunday, Nessel told the Michigan Democratic Party's Jewish Caucus that Jews have a "moral imperative to place the needs of the world above even our own self-interest," according to a video recording obtained by the Detroit News. She cited the Biblical narrative of Queen Esther as she urged them to "sacrifice the comfort, safety, and security, and even the very future of our own people in exchange for the opportunity to save the rest of humanity.”

    1. mtrueman   2 months ago

      "More Jew (self)hatred?"

      They disagree with you, so, yes, they must hate themselves.

  30. jagjr   2 months ago

    "I'm not sure Trump is intimidated by Danish soldiers, but good for them, I guess."

    wouldn't it be better to refrain from saying anything if you don't know what you're talking about?? I've worked with the Danes in NATO ops & exercises. they are excellent & professional. the fact that Mr. Trump hasn't the brains to be intimidated is one thing, but don't run down our highly professional allies.

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