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Socialism

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Plus: Groypers on the Hill, HOA lawsuits, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 8.3.2026 9:30 AM

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Francesca Hong's friends: Over the weekend, Wisconsin candidate for governor (and democratic socialist) Francesca Hong campaigned with streamer Hasan Piker, who wants to force non-socialists out of the Democratic Party (a view he expressed while wearing a Mao Zedong outfit), and Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.), who once accused Israel of having "hypnotized" the world.

The August 11 primary will determine which Democrat challenges Republican Tom Tiffany in November. Hong, a 37-year-old chef and bartender (in AOC fashion), is the frontrunner.

"When people want to fight for something together, when they see something they believe in, and they start to believe in one another, I think the Dems are going to have to write a new playbook here," Hong said at the rally. So what is it, exactly, that she's fighting for?

Hong wants the standard raft of policy proposals that politicians like New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani have promoted: universal taxpayer-funded childcare, schools funded by the "super-rich" (unclear what she means by that). Hong has also said she will roll back school vouchers, expand Medicaid, establish a public health insurance option for those without coverage currently, bring private insurance premiums down (unclear how), "crack down on claim denial processes," and "recognize gender-affirming care as medically necessary." She wants to establish a public bank to fund various business owners that she's deemed disadvantaged. "At the federal level, we need to abolish ICE and prosecute lawbreaking agents," says her website. "But here in Wisconsin, Fran will use the full force of the executive branch to protect Wisconsinites of all documentation status from secret police."

"The lowest-earning 20% of Wisconsin households pay over 10% of their income in state and local taxes. But folks making over $1.3 million pay only 6.6%," reads her website. "When richer people aren't asked to pay their fair share of taxes, it means our tax system is effectively handing them free money." Note that when someone is taxed at a lower rate than someone else, the government has not "handed" them anything. It has simply refrained from taking money they earned.

But more to the point, socialist types keep acting like this points to an unfairness in the structure of income taxes. What it tells us is that sales and excise taxes—taxes on consumption—end up looking pretty regressive, hitting the poor hard but being much less significant (as a share of total income) to the rich. And "fair share" doesn't mean anything: Taxation, to the extent that it must happen at all, should be about how much revenue government needs, and policymakers should raise that revenue via the least distortionary means possible. It's not about punishing the high-earning or hard-working.

"I do not support the full platform of the national DSA [Democratic Socialists of America] and I am not endorsed by DSA National," said Hong in a recent debate, who added that she is "not here to govern by slogan." I dunno, that website I just pored over sure looks pretty slogany, with a loft of lofty rhetoric and a lot of "eat the rich" nonsense and state intrusion into private industry.

When asked by CNN's Dana Bash whether Hong's views on defunding the police have changed since the defund fervor of the early 2020s, Hong demurred. "People can evolve," Hong said. "I am going to be a sensible and practical governor that is going to make sure that public safety is a priority." It seems like Hong is realizing that old tweets like this may be a political liability:

I support defunding the police as a first step towards abolishing the police.

Jacob Blake is fighting for his life but he shouldn't have to be. We must also fight for his life and get justice for all those harmed by state-sanctioned violence.

Black Lives Matter

— Francesca Hong For Governor (@FrancescaHongWI) August 24, 2020

But it's not clear how much of a liability they are. "Democratic socialist Katie Wilson was elected mayor of Seattle last year and another, Janeese Lewis George, is poised to win the mayoral contest in Washington, DC, this November," reports CNN. "In Los Angeles, democratic socialist Nithya Raman is challenging incumbent mayor Karen Bass, a Democrat. They've also won a series of congressional primaries, including ousting House incumbents in New York and Colorado."

It's also not clear that Hong herself is convinced as to the best strategy. She seems to want to portray herself as a normie everywoman who understands the average Wisconsinite, regardless of party, but also as someone who pals around with Piker and Omar. Voters might not punish her for the latter, but it's not clear whether her radical or pragmatic instincts are stronger. In the end, if she gets in office, it might not matter much: She'll be able to do plenty of damage.


Scenes from New York: 

Some thoughts on life in NYC:

- Much of what makes New York great is that there's a large contingent of people who donate money the city and its institutions once they've made it. John Paulson made a fortune during the Financial Crisis, and subsequently donated $100 million to… https://t.co/Am9HvS3d6U

— David Perell (@david_perell) August 3, 2026


QUICK HITS

  • "Everyone knows what the problem is: The organizations that bring young staffers to Washington, D.C. have spent the last decade prioritizing blind ideological loyalty instead of competence or intelligence," a senior GOP congressional staffer told Politico. "We have a generation of rabid, incompetent idiots."
  • Axios' "three dramas to watch" after November: "Trump will flirt with running again in '28 until the bitter end, but it's all about PR and keeping Vance and Rubio in their place"; "As potential outside-the-walls competition in '28, the White House is watching Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) and Sen. Josh Hawley (Mo.)"; "A constitutional clash over congressional oversight, among the last and most vital powers lawmakers hold dear. What happens if Trump orders his entire administration, family and friends to just ignore Congress?"
  • Homeowner associations (HOAs) "are getting more aggressive about pursuing people who rack up unpaid dues, skipping informal grace periods to make up the payments and turning delinquent accounts over to lawyers," reports The Wall Street Journal. "In the most extreme cases, they are pursuing foreclosures on these properties. There were 6,376 properties with HOA-related foreclosure filings in the first quarter of this year—spanning initial default notices to completed sales. That is up nearly 40% from two years earlier and rising faster than overall mortgage foreclosure rates, according to real-estate analytics firm Attom."
  • In case you missed it: I'm writing a book, and updating folks via Substack. Follow me there if you'd like to stay in the loop. It will be a while before a preorder link is available, but I'm already finding little chunks of research that I don't think will fit into the book but will probably be adapted into meandering Substack thoughts. If you're interested in risk/risk aversion, parenting, New York City, skateboarding, death, faith, how "gentle parenting" is screwing up a whole generation, or just YOURS TRULY, you'll like this book.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Over the weekend, Wisconsin candidate for governor (and democratic socialist) Francesca Hong campaigned with streamer Hasan Piker...

    I'm beginning to suspect the Dems might possibly have a commie problem.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      I swear that said steamer and not streamer.

    2. Super Scary   2 months ago

      What's with the left and rallying behind dog abusers? Weird combo.

    3. JFree   2 months ago

      Over the weekend I was just thinking - what is really missing is a purely NY perspective on the Wisconsin democratic primary written entirely for a non-Wisconsin audience

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        You were thinking is the first sign youre lying.

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        “Over the weekend I was just thinking”

        Cite?

    4. CE   2 months ago

      Hong is the same anti-American Democrat who said Thanksgiving should be canceled, because it is "incredibly painful" for some people.

  2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    It's not about punishing the high-earning or hard-working.

    Yes, it is.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Indeed, could have fooled me.

    2. Rat on a train (FR)   2 months ago

      I recall Obama saying he would punish high-earners even if it reduced tax revenue.

      1. CE   2 months ago

        Obama's library punishes anyone who looks at it.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    In Los Angeles, democratic socialist Nithya Raman is challenging incumbent mayor Karen Bass, a Democrat.

    I'm assuming that one was picked to get Pratt out but not be enough of a threat to Bass. That might backfire.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Pratt was a stupid candidate. He didn't directly pay homeless to vote for him and he thinks he is going to win? Ha!

    2. middlefinger   2 months ago

      Bass is considered conservative by new Democrat party standards. Similar to the replaced Lightfoot in Chicago.

    3. CE   2 months ago

      Bass was on the short list of Biden VP possibilities (one of 3 Black women who had been elected to something.) She was ruled out for her socialist past. Now she's considered "right wing" among Democrats.

  4. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    What happens if Trump orders his entire administration, family and friends to just ignore Congress?

    Clutch those pearls harder!

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      What happens if district court judges ignore congress and SCOTUS to make law and enforce it nationwide?

      1. middlefinger   2 months ago

        What happens if an entire political party wants to abolish congress and replace with a politburo

        1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

          Execute them?

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        No idea what you’re talking about.

        — Reason

      3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        They get praised by sullum and petti?

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Much of what makes New York great is that there's a large contingent of people who donate money the city and its institutions once they've made it.

    One day I hope to be wealthy enough to toss money in a hole, too.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      But enough about donating to kamala

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Pretty damn sure I do not want any contact with her holes.

        1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

          (Shudders)

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      If you want the contracts to build the government grocery stores for 3x more than market rate - you have to kick back 50% of it. That is how the grift works.

    3. damikesc   2 months ago

      I am impressed how much the city wants to stop that.

      Which they should. People should know better than to keep a dying rabid dog alive.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The organizations that bring young staffers to Washington, D.C. have spent the last decade prioritizing blind ideological loyalty instead of competence or intelligence...

    No one ever wants their young staffers to get uppity, and really that mindset from the Zoomers and Alphas was cultivated in the institutions that had hold of them well before Congress got them.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      If democrats want competence and intelligence, they will have to hire Republicans as staffers

      1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        There are switch-hitters in that game.

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      They want compliance - it is necessary for collectivism.

    3. Marshal   2 months ago

      This is another instance of the GOP adopting tactics Dems began in the 1970s.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        But it is a problem NOW. It was not a problem when the Republicans decided to play the role of cuck.

        "Trump's DOJ is not independent enough" is a constant complaint...pretending that Obama or Biden's was remotely independent.

        1. damikesc   2 months ago

          Also love the implication that the problem is "the Right" (groypers was used for a reason). Not the Left.

          1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

            Fuentes and his minions are not on the right. Hell, he’s full democrat now. And he should burn along with them.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    We have a generation of rabid, incompetent idiots.

    THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL DEALING WITH. You're nothing special.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      I need more clarity as to which generation he's referring.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        All generations aside from X.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          I was thinking Boomers, Millennials, and Gen Z fit into "Three generations of rabid, incompetent idiots is more than enough." but couldn't be clear if we're talking about Gen Alpha too.

          And, in all fairness, the only reason lots of Gen X doesn't fit in is because they aren't *as* rabid or incompetent.

        2. CE   2 months ago

          Exactly.

  8. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Another sliver of hope for the UK?

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/reform-would-end-student-loans-for-mickey-mouse-degrees/ar-AA29eFZp

    Reform UK would make students privately fund “woke” university degrees, Suella Braverman said.

    The party’s education spokesman said students would not be offered student loans for gender studies and other courses “with poor outcomes and little value”.

    She said students wanting to take these courses would need to pay for their own studies as “the British taxpayer would not fund them” under a Reform government.

    “Woke courses with poor outcomes and little value such as gender studies, social justice, critical race theory and queer theory would no longer enjoy taxpayer subsidies simply because they are offered by a so-called university,” she told The Telegraph.

    “If people wanted to study those courses, they would need to fund them privately. The British taxpayer would not fund them.”

    The former home secretary also confirmed that “persistently failing universities offering poor-quality provision” would lose access to taxpayer-backed student finance under a Reform government.

    1. rswallen   2 months ago

      How?
      1) They are an opposition party.
      2) There is little prospect of a general election anytime soon
      3) Their party leader is currently running in a by election he triggered by resigning from parliament, probably to distract from new stories about how he didn't disclose large donations when he became an MP.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        All true, but someone at least said this out loud.

      2. damikesc   2 months ago

        There's also a pronounced split between them and Rupert Lowe's Restore UK party. I like Nigel and respect what he did --- but he does not seem good at playing with others.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Trump will flirt with running again in '28 until the bitter end, but it's all about PR and keeping Vance and Rubio in their place...

    Or is it? Duh duh duhhhh.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Thought it was to annoy the dems. And it works.

  10. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

    There are a handful of commenters who live in the Spokane/N Idaho area.

    Would you be please check in?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      You good man? I saw you helping out at in n out

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        Ha. Twin Falls is 550 miles south.

        A suppressed Five Seven wouldn't be my first carry choice, but it served its purpose.

    2. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

      One of the Spokane fires got within a mile of my house, but the wind started pushing it north. The smoke is pretty unbearable though.

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        It's bad over here as well. 237 on the index scale.

        Glad to see you are okay.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          Oof. We got to like 170 when the Canadian fires were blowing this way and that was rough enough. Hope it clears out soon.

          1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

            Couple more days maybe.

        2. middlefinger   2 months ago

          FYI, Watchduty app is good for updates. WA Smoke is down (and up) here in Colorado

        3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          We got to 600+ here in Michigan a few weeks ago. It smelled like burning trash.

          1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

            I woke up to a fine layer of ash on my car, and we’re not nearly that bad.

  11. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Biden was letting them back in.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/father-of-slain-marine-speaks-out-after-illegal-immigrant-who-killed-son-faces-third-deportation/ar-AA29cWSU

    The father of a U.S. Marine killed in a hit-and-run crash involving an illegal immigrant is speaking out after federal authorities arrested the man for a third time as he once again faces deportation.

    Martin Martinez-Ballinas, 38, a Mexican national, was arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on July 22 after serving a federal prison sentence for illegally reentering the United States. He now faces his third deportation, according to federal authorities.

    Federal officials said Martinez-Ballinas was convicted in connection with a 2017 crash in Maryland that killed 21-year-old U.S. Marine James Ray Walden III.

    1. rswallen   2 months ago

      [failed again]

    2. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 months ago

      He killed a US citizen and ran away. Throw him in the Rio Grande and make him swim back. While the river is in flood stage.

  12. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    We have a generation of rabid, incompetent idiots.

    Cant even do a decent job shooting up a burger joint.

  13. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Most secure elections ever.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/four-non-citizens-charged-in-new-jersey-following-voter-fraud-investigation/ar-AA29cNy0

    Federal authorities have charged four non-citizens in New Jersey with crimes related to illegally voting in federal elections and making false statements during the naturalization process, according to a statement released by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

    Court records identify the defendants as Idan Choresh, 43, a citizen of Israel; Jacenth Emelyn Beadle Exum, 70, a citizen of Jamaica; David Gboty Neewilly, 73, a citizen of Liberia; and Abhinandan Vig, 33, a citizen of India.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Mike was here crying that it wasn't wide spread. But even politico is now admitting the "honor system" style registration is broken.

      https://x.com/philipletsou/status/2083304655249932415

  14. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    ...we need to abolish ICE and prosecute lawbreaking agents," says her website. "But here in Wisconsin, Fran will use the full force of the executive branch to protect Wisconsinites of all documentation status from secret police....

    Dear Reeeeeeason. Why do your open borders screeds sound like this marxist moonbat?

    1. middlefinger   2 months ago

      Because Pravda gets the good potatoes

    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      Lol

  15. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Boo hoo...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/undocumented-immigrant-claims-uncle-ran-off-with-her-2m-lottery-prize-after-he-cashed-in-winning-ticket-on-her-behalf/ar-AA29cT55

    An undocumented California woman claims her uncle pocketed a $2 million scratch-off lottery jackpot after she asked him to cash the winning ticket because she feared claiming it herself could lead to deportation.

    1. middlefinger   2 months ago

      It might mess up her apartment subsidies, snap cards, cash assistance and tuition, Medicaid -free healthcare. Now that I think of it, anyone on welfare cradle to grave here illegally has pretty much won the lottery. The reason for the unlimited demand

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      That 2 million would probably go far in her shithole homeland.

      What an idiot. She’s probably like a doctor or something we really need tho. Lol.

  16. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    recognize gender-affirming care as medically necessary

    Affirm the gender they are, or want to be but never will? Can we just go back to calling them sex change operations?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Real gender affirming care
      Guy "I feel like a woman"
      Society "no your not now fuck off"

    2. middlefinger   2 months ago

      Because -when you call it “CARE’ there’s a bunch of Maoist grant job paychecks thrown into the mix.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Forget the sex change, AFAICT, whether it's self-administered or independently applied, the only medical necessity they're owed is a bullet.

      People don't run around shouting, "My appendix ruptured, give me an appendectomy or I'll shoot myself." They aren't owed an appendectomy because of violent threats of extortion. They're given an appendectomy out of voluntary mercy.

      The idea of "You have to treat me or I'll kill myself or other people." is an open statement of intent to void the NAP. I don't care if it's a sex change operation or a hang nail.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        Speaking of this --- I love Clay Travis idea of creating an ALL-TRANS WNBA team. Force the league to live up to their professed standards even as women's teams get hammered.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Make their mascot a 6 ft. tall, lime green, female phallus/male vagina.

          1. damikesc   2 months ago

            Also rooting for his now $10M (was $1M) bet to have the WNBA champions face off with a boys state champion basketball team.

            1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

              That would be unfair. Make it the boys JV team.

            2. mad.casual   2 months ago

              I don't have $10M to chip in, but I feel almost culturally obligated to make this happen.

    4. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      sex change operations?

      Even that is false.

  17. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Hope this is true and it hurts.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-democrats-biggest-donors-have-gone-on-strike/ar-AA29d4R8

    George Soros and his son Alex donated more than $400,000 to the Democratic National Committee during the 2018 midterms. They gave more than $1 million during the 2022 midterm election cycle, campaign finance records show.

    This year, they have yet to give the DNC a dollar.

    The Soros’s aren’t alone—other high-profile donors have given little or no money to the Democrats’ central committee this year. Reid Hoffman, the co-founder of LinkedIn, wrote steady checks to the DNC for years but during the midterms has yet to give money.

    1. middlefinger   2 months ago

      After the NYC hit list, maybe?? they realize what happens to Kulak useful idiots when they’re no longer useful.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 months ago

        Or the disappearance of NGOs that got 85% of their funding from USAID.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      It's funny, I'm actually split.

      For all the "Don't worry about Trump, worry about what comes after Trump." this feels like the flip side of that.

      Presumably, people like Dick Durbin, Ron Wyden, and John Fetterman are the ones who've been cut off from this sort of funding; and there seems to be no shortage of money for other candidates I've never actually heard of to get Hasan Piker to appear at their campaign event.

    3. Marshal   2 months ago

      they realize what happens to Kulak useful idiots when they’re no longer useful.

      Is that it? Or have they chosen to give to side groups like the DSA because they are more extreme than the DNC?

      Soros wants socialism because a one party state is easier to control. The Soros' won't become the Kulaks, they will elevate to shot callers. Bodega owners, farmers market sellers, plumbing and other repair contractors will convert to kulaks once the left controls government and can no longer target it for their scapegoating.

  18. rswallen   2 months ago

    [moved]

  19. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Of course.

    Although a part of me understands that putting them on the taxpayers dime for 20 years when it's unlikely they would repeat their crime might not be the best expenditure. OTOH, someone might "fix the glitch" while they were incarcerated.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/parents-who-starved-their-75-day-old-baby-to-death-will-get-no-jail-time-after-guilty-plea-guess-who-the-judge-is/ar-AA29cjlP

    While the baby was born at a healthy weight on April 20 of that year, during follow-up appointments, a medical provider said she was concerned about the baby's inability to gain weight and told the parents to increase the amount of formula she was receiving.

    While she was 6 pounds, 8 ounces at birth, she was only 8 pounds, 4 ounces at the time of her death.

    Furthermore, her parents had skipped the last follow-up on May 8, just 30 days before her death -- which officials ruled was due to malnutrition and dehydration. Her parents, Luis Gonzalez Jr., 26, and Kitrina Udrea, 23, both of Buffalo, were charged with manslaughter. The two pleaded guilty in May.

    Democrat NY Judge James F. Bargnesi just SPARED a couple jail time after they pleaded guilty to second-degree manslaughter for starving their 2-month-old baby to death

    NO JAIL. For causing the death of a baby.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Just a clump of cells, after all.

      1. Marshal   2 months ago

        Just like the rest of us.

    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      There is such a thing as “failure to thrive”, is their evidence they withheld food?

      1. Zeb   2 months ago

        Yeah, I think I'd need to know a lot more to have any strong opinion on this one.

        1. Ron   2 months ago

          Failure to not take a failing child to doctors is pretty close to intent

          1. mad.casual   2 months ago

            https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/A8649

            Assembly Bill A8649

            2025-A8649 (ACTIVE) - Summary
            Enacts the "safe haven baby box act" to provide a defense to endangering the welfare of a child; defines "safe haven baby box" to mean a secure, climate-controlled device installed at a facility staffed twenty-four hours per day, seven days per week, including but not limited to hospitals, police stations, fire stations, and emergency medical service facilities.

            The baby died at 75 days. 30 days prior was the skipped/missed appointment. NY law mandates no-questions-asked drop off at any of the above-indicated facilities within 30 days of a/the birth. Second-order note: any/all of these facilities can and do keep the ability to care for such infants on hand for just such emergencies.

            Again, 50+ yrs. ago, nobody handing out formula, no SNAP, no place to drop off a baby you can't take care of, dubious abortion practices, hit-or-miss access to birth control... maybe "failure to thrive" could play. Today, it's just making excuses for an entire village to acceptably birth and kill an infant.

          2. Zeb   2 months ago

            Or negligence. Some people are just idiots.

            Everyone always complains about Reason stories about someone being mistreated by the justice system (often quite rightly) for leaving out big parts of the story. This is an opinion piece which seems like it's just repeating the prosecution's case. I think similar reluctance to believe that we are getting the whole story is warranted here. I'm not saying that the case, as presented, doesn't make the parents seem criminally negligent at the very least.

            1. mad.casual   2 months ago

              As probably indicated; IMO negligence is actually the point of trials and "the process is the punishment".

              As indicated elsewhere, we routinely take a few years to figure out if, e.g., Christian Scientists are neglecting their kids or exercising their 1A rights when they pray rather than letting their kids get medical treatment and this doesn't sound anywhere near that noble or legally contentious.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Wrong. Key word: dehydration. This is standard-fare Progressive (beyond bleeding heart), The Science, 'opportunistic semantic drift' bullshit. Saying "failure to thrive" is more "vaccines are any substance that causes an immune reaction", "sonograms detect electrical currents, not heartbeats", "nitrogen asphyxiation has never been tested", and "I have gluten sensitivity." nonsense.

        In the frontier West, "failure to thrive" was a thing. In rural Afghanistan, "failure to thrive" is a thing. There was no doctor around for a 3 mo. checkup and if a baby had cholic or an obstructed bowel or whatever there was no way for anyone to know. If Mom and Dad had to choose between putting food on the table for themselves and their other kids or this bundle of joy that the stork randomly dropped off because there was no birth control, it's not for our modern, culturally-disconnected sensibilities to judge.

        This is neither of those times or places. Their delivery was covered. Their checkups were available. They even chose to dodge the last one. There are multiple redundant networks that will dump boxes of free formula on you. We force Hobby Lobby to provide birth control to lesbians.

        I don't agree that we should all be covering for those things, but given that we are, the criteria for neglect and failure are even more low bar than they ever were. The "failure to thrive" isn't just a dismissal of the specific death, it's also a dismissal of the systemic rejection or failure. More increasing the social burden and then specifically allowing it to fail in order to demand more.

        SSDD for no-shit libertarianism; there is a fucking body, this was not a victimless crime. The supposed police state wasn't out looking for a brown-skinned couple to lock up and just happened upon the one couple who let their baby starve to death.

      3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        They did plead guilty, so there's that. I know there can be reasons why that's done instead of going to trial, but it's there. Don't know what their allocution said, if anything.

      4. Marshal   2 months ago

        The article is sparse. I wondered if they were vegan as there have been similar cases where a vegan diet lead to death an infant death. But there are no details to explain why they acted as they did.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Commonwealth (of Mass.) v. Twitchell

          In 1988, Massachusetts prosecutors charged David and Ginger Twitchell with manslaughter in the 1986 death of their two-year-old son Robyn. Robyn Twitchell died of a peritonitis caused by a bowel obstruction that medical professionals declared would have been easily correctable.

          The Twitchells' defense contended that the couple were within their First Amendment rights to treat their son's illness with prayer and that Massachusetts had recognized this right in an exemption to the statute outlawing child neglect.

          The Twitchells were convicted of involuntary manslaughter. They were sentenced to ten years probation and required to bring their remaining children to regular visits to a pediatrician.[2][3] The conviction was overturned in 1993 by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court on a legal technicality.[1] Robert Gittens, speaking for the prosecutors' office commented, "the law is now clear: parents cannot sacrifice the lives of their children in the name of religious freedom."

          There are dozens of cases of this in legal precedent specifically around Christian Scientists. Some even include more literal "Acts of God" where a kid contracts meningitis and dies a week later. This was all between 30-80 yrs. ago.

          SSDD - Someone died. The justice system, cops, attorneys, judges, maybe juries... all looked into it and arrived at the conclusion that the death was reasonably preventable and acted accordingly. Any mitigation, is maybe or maybe not meted out, at the also-maybe-maybe-not sole discretion of an appellate judge. This is how the system is supposed to work. Don't want to get charged for manslaughter after starving your infant? Abstain from sex, use birth control, put them up for adoption, or, crazy as it may sound, feed them and give them medical care. Otherwise, expect to face at least one trial that likely won't go in your favor.

          This isn't some case of an expectant mother with an affinity for poppy seed dressing failing a blood test and birthing a kid who is addicted to opioids, but otherwise healthy.

    3. middlefinger   2 months ago

      Just when you’d think the courts can’t get any lower. Pure Middle Ages barbarism

    4. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      But you can get 9 years for election denial or 2 years for parading.

  20. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Thought SCOTUS sorted this out? Lower courts just gumming up the works.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-immigration-agenda-faces-setback-as-obama-appointed-judge-issues-fresh-tps-stay/ar-AA29d2Y5

    A Massachusetts federal judge has once again blocked the Trump administration from ending Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for Somalia, issuing a new administrative stay after plaintiffs rewrote their lawsuit around constitutional claims just days after a federal appeals court threw out similar stays terminating TPS for Ethiopia and South Sudan.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      No Kings except activist judges.

    2. damikesc   2 months ago

      Don't get why Trump abides by this decision. SCOTUS ruled. That is the end.

  21. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

    Nothing about Trump corruptly selling early access to his social media posts? I was dying to hear how morons here would defend that.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      NPR, Reddit, MSN, CNBC, BBC all repeating the same anon sources. I'll need more information before I go full Sarc.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      Since his social media outlet is not a government entity, I don't see how selling early access is corruption.

      1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

        “But Trump!!!!!!!!”

        - shorter Sarc Fu

    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Lol. Poor Rachel.

  22. Jonrichter   2 months ago

    "I dunno, that website I just poured over sure looks pretty slogany, with a loft of lofty rhetoric and a lot of "eat the rich" nonsense and state intrusion into private industry."

    Pored, not poured.

    Lot, not loft.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Look at the spelling and grammer knotsee

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      When I see an article like that - I like to print it out, put it on the ground, and pour some shit over it.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        +1 Are we sure it shouldn't be "website that the series of tubes poured over me looks pretty slogany"?

    3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      All the "editors" at Reason are not editors, per se.

  23. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Which is it?

    "Feds didn't tell us he was a terrorist?"
    "Don't ask don't tell?"
    "Don't put black muslims in prison. They're not all terrorists."
    "Second chances for convicted felons."

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virginia-university-report-finds-officials-did-not-disclose-student-s-terror-conviction/ar-AA295smU

    On March 12, Mohamed Bailor Jalloh reportedly yelled "Allahu Akbar" before opening fire inside an ROTC classroom a ODU, killing an Army veteran instructor and injuring two students before ROTC members fatally subdued him.

    Jalloh was convicted in 2016 of attempting to provide material support to the Islamic State terror group in a plot to target U.S. military personnel.

    Neither his federal probation officer, the FBI, nor any state or federal agency notified ODU of his conviction, the university-commissioned report concluded.

    "Had ODU known about Jalloh’s criminal history, it is highly likely that ODU would have sought his removal from campus due to the risk he posed, particularly to military-affiliated individuals," the independent report said.

    "The FBI does not serve as a notification authority for colleges or universities regarding an individual’s criminal historyhat is a shared responsibility across state, local, federal and community partners," the FBI said.

    Additionally, the bureau noted that Jalloh's terrorism-related convictions were widely publicized by the Department of Justice in 2016 and 2017, with at least three press releases detailing his case still available on the agency's website.

    "Furthermore, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Eastern District of Virginia issued several press releases and publicly available information, including a press release when Jalloh was sentenced in 2017 for attempting to provide material support to a designated foreign terrorist organization," the agency said.

    "The release remains on the Department of Justice website and can be found through an internet search with multiple links available."

    ODU said that, under Virginia law enacted in 2022, public universities are prohibited from asking applicants about their criminal history during the admissions process.

    1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      Outlaw Islam.

      1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

        Eradicate Islam. It’s a curse upon the earth.

  24. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Scenes from NYC:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/the-distant-date-that-mamdani-has-chosen-for-his-city-owned-grocery-stores-should-raise-alarm-bells/ar-AA295vTP

    Of all the dubious things about Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s government grocery stores, the one that should stand out is how far off in the future they are.

    City Hall doesn’t even pretend that the first one, in Hunts Point, will open before late 2027 — and anyone familiar with government projects knows all too well that they always take far longer than initial estimates.

    (And cost more, too: Expect the final price tag to exceed not just the $40 million already earmarked to build two markets, but the $70 million for five.)

    The second, at East Harlem’s La Marqueta, is advertised as starting in 2029, his re-election year.

    In short, they won’t have time to fail before voters must judge his success.

    1. A Thinking Mind   2 months ago

      The hope is that they get enough socialists in Congress to give bailout money back to New York before anyone realizes New York is failing.

    2. middlefinger   2 months ago

      That has absolutely nothing to do with grocery stores. The democrats are a money laundering operation for global revolutionaries. The thing is never the thing, the thing is always the revolution.

    3. damikesc   2 months ago

      I think the requirement to have some "library card thing" to shop there is hilarious.

      ID --- racist for voting. Not racist for letting somebody buy food.

      Never forget: The Left Does Not Believe What They Lecture You About

  25. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    There is no justice and there can be no peace until Black people are free from police violence.

    There they were just minding their own business and WHAM! Police violence.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      None of us can thrive until our Black friends and neighbors can thrive.

      There is an entire continent full of black people who, in some areas, made it illegal to be white and they still aren't thriving.

      Side note, most of those nations have elected socialists to run their governments.

      1. Zeb   2 months ago

        Sounds like a threat.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

          We will redistribute the fruits of your labor until we all have as much as those who have never labored!

  26. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Democrat sours on Comrade Mayor:

    https://pjnewsletter.com/dem-rep-mamdani-nyc

    You know things have gotten bad inside the Democrat Party when its own members start booking segments on Fox News to torch one of their own. Not anonymously. Not through staffers leaking to Politico.

    Sitting members of Congress, on camera, using words like “clown” and “Hamas talking points” to describe a Democratic mayor. When the knives come out this publicly and this viciously, it’s not a disagreement. It’s a survival reflex.

    And the reason is staring them right in the face. With President Trump in the White House and the midterms bearing down, Democrats are confronting an ugly truth: the far-left socialist wing of their party has become a political wrecking ball.

    On Wednesday’s broadcast of the Fox News Channel’s “America’s Newsroom,” Rep. Josh Gottheimer (D-NJ) said that New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani’s (D) is “obsessed” with Israel “And he’s often parroting Hamas’s own talking points. It’s like they send him talking points in the morning and he just reads them from the podium.”

    Gottheimer said, “Well, the Mayor’s clearly obsessed with this issue. He should probably be a little more obsessed with making sure that his city is running well and that he’s picking up the trash and fixing the potholes, but since he’s obsessed with this issue.”

    The night before Gottheimer’s appearance, Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania showed up on Hannity — yes, Hannity — and delivered an even more scorching indictment. He called Mamdani a “clown” and a “freak show.” That’s language Democrats typically save for Republicans. Fetterman clearly didn’t care.

    He mocked Mamdani’s theatrical threat to arrest Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, noting that a mayor can “fix a pothole” and “take out the trash” but can’t exactly issue international arrest warrants. Then came the most devastating line of the week. Fetterman looked into the camera and addressed Mamdani directly: “I know you’re angry at Netanyahu because he killed a lot of people you admire, whether, like, it’s Sinwar or Nasrallah or Khamenei in Iran.”

  27. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Bill Maher not happy with DSA:

    MAHER: “Trump has told 1 trillion lies, but when he says the DSA are actually COMMUNISTS, that’s not one of them.”

    “And it’s not hard to prove it just by quoting the DSA and their candidates.”

    “J.D. Vance was on the show, and I told him that if the Democratic Party keeps going in the direction of the DSA, my vote was in play. And all I heard all vacation was, ‘Oh, my God, you’re a Republican now.’ No, that's not what I said. I said in play, and here’s why.”

    “Because not a week goes by where I don’t read about some newly chosen, exciting new face in the Democratic Party. And then when that face opens its mouth, the Communist Manifesto or some other crazy shit comes out! Again.”

    “Let’s just read the quotes. The DSA platform says: ‘You work as much as you are able and no more than needed.’ If that was any closer to Karl Marx’s dictum, from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs, they’d be sued for plagiarism.”

    “New York Mayor Mamdani once tweeted, Karl Marx’s words exactly. They’re not trying to hide it. Their most popular influencer, Hasan Piker, thinks communism is so groovy, he laments the fall of two of the most murderous regimes in history, the Soviet Union and Chairman Mao's China.”

    “Mamdani's aide, his top aide, Cea Weaver, said, ‘If you don't believe in the government's sacred right to seize property, it's over.’ And ‘impoverish the white middle class.’ What? That's a goal? You know you're supposed to scare people into voting for you, right?”

    “One of the new, soon-to-be Democratic congresspeople, Darlesia Chavalier, supports seizing all properties from landlords and said, ‘Seize the means of production.’ Mamdani has said ‘The end goal is seizing the means of production.’ I think they want to seize the means of production.”

    “Now, maybe you missed that in school or missed school altogether, but THAT'S COMMUNISM.”

    “Now the coalition within the DSA called the Marxist Unity Group is in ascendance. And I must take them at their word. When their words include, ‘Our commitment is to the long-term struggle for a fully liberated classless society. In a word, communism.’”

    “What do they have to do, tweet out ‘Elect more communists’? Oh, yeah, Cea Weaver did that.”

    [Shows tweet, audience audibly gasps]

    “Yes, [she really did that]! ... People gotta realize this is going on.”

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      People gotta realize this is going on

      Never have, never will.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Yeah, even in nature, there are classes and accumulated hive/herd/tribe/social capital that allows individuals to "work according to ability but no more than needed". The alternative is individual death and/or hive/herd/tribe/social collapse, eradication, or extinction.

        The idea of concertedly eliminating class to provide everyone a life of ease, equally (or not), isn't even nonsense. Like concertedly eradicating chicken farming in order to provide everyone with equal access to PB&J.

      2. Dillinger   2 months ago

        'I know Bill Maher said (D) is communists but all my mahjong friends are (D) and they're totally normal girls."

    2. middlefinger   2 months ago

      Reason says Trump prevents the Democrats from delivering on affordability and are of two minds.

    3. Marshal   2 months ago

      Let's also consider the official Reason position that anyone who was prematurely correct about these people's authoritarianism is still wrong and racist.

      The reason position requires us to believe that these DSA supporters (which outnumber non-supporters in the Dem primary) went to bad last Tuesday night as liberals and woke up Thursday morning as Mao admiring and Jew hating socialists. Reason prefers this explanation because it allows them to claim to have been right all these years, but it's always been obvious Dems were this nuts.

      It's embarrassing Reason and their close allies like Megan McArdle are still arguing woke Dems are a small fringe even as they dominate primaries, win elections, and control our institutions.

  28. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Of course.

    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2083343282310926388

    Today, Spanish police finally started swinging their batons against the crowds on the streets of Ceuta

    Unfortunately, they attacked the Spanish locals were protesting against how the government allowed 50 000 illegal migrants cross the border

    No batons against migrants

    1. Marshal   2 months ago

      Nothing could be less surprising. Leftist governments know who their enemies are.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        Sneak preview of DSA-led America.

        1. Marshal   2 months ago

          Brian Thompson and Charlie Kirk have already given us the preview, plus the Obama / Biden open border debacles. We don't need to look at other countries to see the dysfunction the left has in mind here.

    2. Z Crazy   2 months ago

      These police feel raping white girls is a fundemantal human right!

      1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        Reparations.

  29. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    https://apnews.com/article/hamas-arrest-hasna-extradition-turkey-9160140edb601b33419fe7b57dc46a3e

    A Turkish man was arrested Friday in the United Kingdom on charges alleging he conspired to funnel money and supplies to Hamas through his senior role in what prosecutors say was a sham global humanitarian organization.

    Mohammad Yousef Hasna, 45, of Istanbul, was ordered held pending extradition proceedings that will occur before he can be brought to New York.

    U.S. Attorney Jamie McDonald in Manhattan said Hasna worked closely with Hamas’ senior leadership to deliver supplies, food and funding to Hamas under the guise of humanitarian aid.

    The United States has designated Hamas as a foreign terrorist organization.

    “Mohammad Hasna is alleged to have abused his position as the global director of a purported humanitarian organization to raise money and provide funds and supplies to Hamas, a brutal terrorist organization responsible for the murders of dozens of Americans and over a thousand other innocent victims, including as part of the heinous atrocities of October 7,” said U.S. Attorney Jamie McDonald for the Southern District of New York. “Hasna worked closely with Hamas’s senior leadership to deliver supplies, food, funding, and other materials to terrorists under the guise of humanitarian aid. Our arrest of Mohammad Hasna demonstrates our commitment to dismantling Hamas’s illicit global financing networks and the sham charities that support terrorist organizations and their violent aims using the lie of philanthropy.”

    1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

      Yes, prosecute this guy for arranging funding for Hamas. But also prosecute Netanyahu for doing the same, right?

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Lol.

        Settle down Mamdani.

      2. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

        Israel stops terror, they don’t support it. They are on the side of freedom and goodness.

  30. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

    What the article does not mention is that Francesca Hong's likely Republican opponent is Tom Tiffany. I say In a battle between two bad choices Hong wins.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Why do YOU think Hong is a bad choice?

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        "...think..."
        M4e, think?! Ha, ha.

      2. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

        Hong is not all that radically different than the other Democratic nominees. What I believe is her support is deep and not broad. I would prefer a the Democrat have broader appeal in purple Wisconsin.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          See. Told ya.

        2. Marshal   2 months ago

          Note the policies are irrelevant, only winning matters.

          1. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

            When the Republican alternative is Tom Tiffany yes winning is the priority. I would add that policy are irrelevant if a candidate can not win.

            1. Marshal   2 months ago

              This is one way fake moderates reveal themselves. They adopt that branding so they can deflect criticism of Dem policies and avoid damaging discussions. But their actual position shows they are fine with them.

              1. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

                I am ready for any discussion you want. I see the Trump administration as a dumpster fire and I am willing to accept a lot I don't like to put some control on that fire. If I saw one Republican stand up to help I would support them. Oh wait one did Thomas Massie and they got rid of him. I am not a fan of the DSA by any means and I will not vote to nominate a DSA candidate. But if that is all I am left to stop the dumpster fire, I accept them for office and vote for them.

            2. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

              Sounds like Tom Tiffany is a terrific candidate. I hope he wins.

              1. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

                He may likely win. That fine for you as you don't have to live in Wisconsin.

                1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

                  I live in Washington. We have an incompetent quasi communist governor and AG, backed up by a communist democrat majority. So you would love it here, right comrade?

                  My preference is for Trump to put Washington under martial law and have all the communists in state government put in front of firing squads.

        3. damikesc   2 months ago

          So, you're saying all the other Dem nominees are Marxists?

          1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

            And declined to say why that is bad.

            1. damikesc   2 months ago

              But he is the true libertarian and all...

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Yeah. But youre a die hard leftist parody.

  31. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "ICE agents will be deployed to U.S. airports on Monday: Homan"
    [...]
    "Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents will deploy to airports on Monday to help ease security lines amid the Department of Homeland Security shutdown, White House border czar Tom Homan said Sunday.
    President Donald Trump on Saturday threatened to deploy ICE agents to airports as the shutdown drags into its second month, creating headaches for travelers moving through hours-long Transportation Security Administration security lines..."
    https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/22/ice-agents-will-be-deployed-to-us-airports-on-monday-homan.html?msockid=18a25bf424c164f72b33483e257b6551

    The Chron invented a new euphemism for "illegal": 'Immigrants with unresolved legal issues'. How....pathetic.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      The left said felon is a bad word and that you should use "justice involved". Not a one of those promoting that term used it for anyone other than their own team.

  32. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

    So Harris is proposing expanding the court to 13. So maybe Trump should go ahead and do that. If Trump says he would, watch the dems scream about it.

    We all know it's not about a better SCOTUS, it's about trying to put more of their people in power because they don't like the current makeup of the court. If the dems had a 6 -3 majority, they wouldn't suggest the idea and they would be against it.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      +1 "Yeah, but it's just as bad when Republicans do it. Both sides."

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

        I think it would be hilarious if Trump came out and said he would just to troll them.

      2. Zeb   2 months ago

        I' mean, it would be bad if Trump did it. But also a hilarious bluff-calling on his part. "You think it would be better if the court had 13, well here you go." I almost want it to happen to see the reaction.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          I' mean, it would be bad if Trump did it.

          Right. That's the point. He could do it today but nobody besides Harris is even talking about it. Biden was actively pursuing it and the only thing that stopped him was the backlash.

          One side that's been facing an activist judiciary to the point that the current SCOTUS has had to slap them down repeatedly would only do it as a hypothetical, reactionary measure, in jest. The other side has been exploiting the activism and using SCOTUS threats (both political and personal) as a tool despite repeated 9-0 shutdowns for 3 (4) administrations now. But, really they're both equally bad at governing and/or protecting freedom or peoples' rights.

    2. Dillinger   2 months ago

      I love this idea.

    3. Marshal   2 months ago

      Are there any Dems embarrassed by their switching sides against the SC and pretending it's principled? For decades they valorized the court for RvW's anti-Democracy ruling. But the second it's overturned the entire judiciary they spent decades revering is illegitimate?

      Do they think people don't recognize they have no principles?

    4. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      Yes, they want a Court which would uphold hate speech laws that they intend to use to suppress dissent.

      1. Zeb   2 months ago

        And gun laws for when the speech laws don't sufficiently suppress dissent.

  33. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

    "The lowest-earning 20% of Wisconsin households pay over 10% of their income in state and local taxes. But folks making over $1.3 million pay only 6.6%"

    Quick math experiment:

    1,300,000$ gross:
    - federal and state services used: 0$
    - 6.6% state and local: $85,800
    -30% effective federal rate: $300,000
    0 services used, $385,800 paid in taxes, at 36.5 effective overall rate

    23,900$ gross
    - federal and state services used: likely substantial
    - 10% state and local: $2390
    - 0% federal tax rate
    Actual use of public services but 2390 overall paid, total of 10% effective rate

    Fair share my fucking balls

    1. rswallen   2 months ago

      Whenever they say the rich aren't paying their fair share, ask them what a fair share would be. Ask for a number.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        You will never get one. I never have, and I ask this A LOT on FB and X.

    2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      edit: Messed up and used 1m in calc of federal tax. Its actuall 90k more on 1.3m.

      So that guy is actually paying 475,800$ in taxes.

      500k, and its not enough. Nothing is even enough, when it comes to someone else's money.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Fair share my fucking balls

      SSDD - The generous explanation is that people don't understand averages. The likely accurate explanation is that lots of people who don't understand averages are being led about maliciously by people who understand and intentionally exploit the difference between absolute and proportionate numbers.

      Again, these are many of the same people who, if men make 95% of the salaries, voluntarily give 95% of that to their wives or girlfriends to spend as they please (even if the wives/girlfriends turn around and spend 50% on their husbands/boyfriends) consider that to be an unequal distribution of wealth (or gender roles or whatever).

      1. Marshal   2 months ago

        I think it's less that people don't understand averages than that they don't care. They trust left wing propaganda delivers votes and they don't care whether or not any of it is true. That's why discovering new facts never changes their positions.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          I think it's both (and more). A lot of people really don't understand averages, or generalization. Sub-100 IQ is half the population and average isn't very smart. And a lot of people just go with what sounds good and don't bother thinking things through, even if they are capable of it.

          1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

            " Sub-100 IQ is half the population and average isn't very smart. "

            And a lot of those sub100s are taking cues from the sub 100-to-barely over 100 IQ sociology and education majors that have taken over positions of power, govt, cultural influence. They get their talking points and marching orders from low to avg IQ clowns who spent their lives studying made up propaganda.

            Hell, a midwit like ChemJeff would be a star in their world, and he is at best 105, and uses debate tricks that dont work past sophomore year of high school.

          2. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

            “Sub-100 IQ is half the population”

            Yes, the democrat half.

        2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

          "They trust left wing propaganda delivers votes and they don't care whether or not any of it is true. That's why discovering new facts never changes their positions."

          When one of the retards at work started spouting off on AI going to collapse society from climate change, another guy said "ya, probably not though."

          He comes back with "climate deaths are increasing like crazy and natural disasters are as well". He was shown data for each of these absolutely proving them to be false. He came away and learned nothing, wouldn't even consider that he was just repeating baseless talking points.

          They really are a cult man

    4. Zeb   2 months ago

      I can't really come up with any reasonable definition of "fair" by which the rich aren't paying their fair share and more. We have a very progressive federal tax system where the rich/corporations pay for most of the federal government.
      One thing I will quibble with from your analysis is the rich not using services. While they aren't taking direct welfare transfers, there are plenty of places where people with means are making money off of government expenditures. But it would be silly to expect otherwise. You don't get rich by leaving money on the table and the answer is (as it so often is) FYCS.

  34. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>What happens if Trump orders his entire administration, family and friends to just ignore Congress?

    molly says Congress can make war let's see it

  35. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Homeowner associations (HOAs)

    Neal Boortz' plan to deal with HOAs is the best to-date

    1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

      Drove wooden stakes through the HOA board member’s hearts?

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        one HOA per year randomly dragged to a wall and shot on live tv until HOA morale improves

        1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

          Brainstorming is fun.

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            I liked the fairtax too

            1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

              If you drive wooden stakes through the hearts of enough communist democrats, we might be able to have a fair tax.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      I had the good fortune to be in Atlanta during many of his show years.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        nice. I really liked Neal

  36. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>In Los Angeles, democratic socialist Nithya Raman is challenging incumbent mayor Karen Bass, a Democrat.

    not really.

    edit: maybe in the same sense I am challenging incumbent mayor Karen Bass

  37. damikesc   2 months ago

    ""In Los Angeles, democratic socialist Nithya Raman is challenging incumbent mayor Karen Bass, a Democrat."

    Weird how she completely vanished off the map after "Winning" the run-off to face Bass. Totes legit.

  38. damikesc   2 months ago

    Note to Liz: Unless you're a New Yorker...nobody gives a fuck about NYC. A city based on the greatness of your predecessors. The evidence that wealth is usually lost within a 2 or so generations of its creation. NYC has not created actual wealth in a while.

    1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

      It’s a garbage city that is full of radical traitors like Mamdani, and pinko retardedly like Charlie Hall.

      1. Zeb   2 months ago

        So like most cities, but with an even more inflated sense of self-importance.

        1. Templeton Ferrari the 3rd (The Commentariat member formerly known as SCOTUS)   2 months ago

          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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