Why J.D. Vance Is a Risky Bet for Republicans in 2028
Vance's support for unpopular policies could spell trouble for the GOP in 2028. But this could be a good thing for the party's future, says Jonah Goldberg.
On Tuesday, citizens in 16 states headed to the polls to cast their vote in the midterm primary. While some of the races ended in some high-profile victories, Tuesday's election was significant for another reason: It marked the beginning of the end of Donald Trump's presidency.
With Trump (and the Constitution) ruling out a third term, the GOP will soon have to figure out who will lead the party after he leaves the White House in 2029. The options as of now leave much to be desired.
Up until recently, Kristi Noem was considered a frontrunner, but she was ousted as the Department of Homeland Security secretary on Thursday after being grilled by lawmakers for spending millions in taxpayer dollars to boost her national name recognition. Meanwhile, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who has been a key player in the administration's unpopular immigration crackdown, is not viewed favorably by most of the public. This leaves Vice President J.D. Vance as the presumptive nominee, even though he is no longer supported by a majority of the Republican Party.
A potential Vance nomination in 2028 could be concerning for those Republicans who still care about principled leadership and classical liberalism. As Reason's Stephanie Slade wrote when Vance was selected as Trump's running mate, the former Ohio senator has a "troubling history of articulating illiberal views about the use of government power. He argued on the Senate campaign trail that conservatives should 'seize the administrative state' and use it 'for our own purposes.' He then floated the idea that a Republican president could simply ignore court rulings he doesn't like."
Vance's embrace of whatever ideas are politically advantageous appears to be a feature, not a bug. Indeed, his chameleon-like attitude has allowed him to fit in with, in the words of Slade, the "three loose factions" of the dissident right: "theocons, national conservatives and neoreactionaries." It also led him to take on unique battles, including defending far-right influencer Nick Fuentes.
"I don't think Vance is a Nazi. I don't think he's a racist, per se," The Dispatch's Jonah Goldberg recently told Reason's Nick Gillespie. But "[he] is at the forefront of what I would call, and have called, the anti- anti-Nazi wing. It's not so much that he agrees with Nick Fuentes, or he loves everything that Tucker Carlson is doing, but he'll be damned if he'll tolerate excessive criticism or any attempt to silence or cancel these people."
The rise of Vance and other figures like him is, in many ways, an indictment of where much of the right stands today. "I think there are a lot of people on the right who are very right-wing," says Goldberg. "But their respect for institutions, their respect for the Constitution, their respect for norms, basic decency, and all that kind of stuff has gone out the window."
This lack of respect for constitutional order has been especially evident in the second Trump administration, which has seen the president circumvent Congress to illegally levy tariffs on goods from most of the world and extract the leader of a foreign country. In the most recent example—starting a war in Iran—Congress has chosen not to stop the administration and has instead gone through mental gymnastics to defend Trump.
Like the rest of Trump's actions, Vance has defended the bombings in Iran, which could come back to hurt him in 2028, given the public's disapproval of the war. But it's not just support for unpopular policies that might sink Vance; history, too, is not on his side.
"Only two times in American history since 1800 has a sitting vice president been elected straight to the presidency," says Goldberg. These were Martin Van Buren and George H.W. Bush. "So the only scenarios in which it makes sense that a vice president would win the third term or would win on the heels of his president is if that president was popular."
With Trump's favorability hovering in the low-20s, it seems unlikely that Vance will join that exclusive list with Van Buren and Bush, which would be a good thing for the GOP.
"Once the celebrity goes, you're left with a bunch of politicians, some of whom are really dumb or mean, or obnoxious, and who have to actually make arguments not based on bullying," says Goldberg. "I think that's a great world for…mainstream conservative, mainstream libertarian stuff because those guys actually have good facts on their side."
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Why would I take seriously anything from a Leftist retard with zero understanding of the world outside their professor's commie Fantasyland?
It appears they’re grooming her to be the next Not Little Emma. Which will make her Not Not Little Emma.
Lol.
""I don't think Vance is a Nazi. I don't think he's a racist, per se," The Dispatch's Jonah Goldberg recently told Reason's Nick Gillespie. But "[he] is at the forefront of what I would call, and have called, the anti- anti-Nazi wing. It's not so much that he agrees with Nick Fuentes, or he loves everything that Tucker Carlson is doing, but he'll be damned if he'll tolerate excessive criticism or any attempt to silence or cancel these people.""
Wowzers, I didn't expect my prediction to come true so soon! https://reason.com/podcast/2026/03/04/jonah-goldberg-the-gop-is-becoming-anti-conservative/?comments=true#comment-11404681
Jonah thinks Fuentes and Carlson are conservatives?
Not sure how reading the article left you with that conclusion.
What makes you think the policies are unpopular Stinson?
Trump is polling higher than Obama and Bush at this point in their second term.
Oddly the popularity of a president/party does not correlate directly to the popularity of their policies.
For example. Nobody likes the policies you support but socialists still get 40% of the vote.
"the anti- anti-Nazi wing."
Catchy*.
*It's not catchy
“Stand up if you aren’t anti-anti Nazi”
President AOC to Congress
…it's lifted from "The Anti-Anti-Trump Trump Wing"—Trump-owned Vichy Republicans mad at folks like ex-Republican but still conservative writers for The Dispatch (like Goldberg), The Bulwark (Sarah Longwell), The Contrarian (Jen Rubin), and several (not all) at Reason and Volokh.
Jen Rubin? My chihuahua has more intellectual firepower than JRub. I could never figure out why she was in the WaPo at all. Somebody's childhood friend? Nextdoor neighbor? Blackmail?
But she did switch seamlessly from unceasing criticism of Obama to unceasing criticism of Trump. So that's something.
The person "elected" in 2028 will be whomever Trump appoints. There is almost no chance of 2028 being a real election.
There's 80M invisible swing voters out there, they just need to be "found" again.
Your conclusion is probably correct. But your rationale is what you democrats do.
We believe in honest elections.
"We believe in honest elections."
Of by "we" you mean MAGAs, that is demonstrably false.
If Democrats (party leadership, not rank-and-file voters) sincerely believed their Trump-as-dictator fearmongering, they wouldn't have loosened the border enough in 2021 - 2022 to give ammo to the 'existential threat' on his signature issue.
Good to see you back here despite any disagreements we have.
I go months without commenting, then sign in figuring "Surely today is the day when they no longer allow it without Reason Plus?"
#TemporaryBasisLOL
I am actually pretty sure we're all siloed and only we see each other's comments. And Reason's got an AI bot in here to stir shit to keep us occupied and away from the normies.
+1
We must limit the franchise. Drastically.
Universal suffrage is a terrible idea and has been a disaster for the US
So who should be denied the vote? Women? Blacks? Renters?
Yes
Like button needed!
Here's a start: If you receive the majority of your livelihood from any government social safety-net programs, you are not allowed to vote. It is a conflict of interest.
If you have zero risk of being conscripted, you are not allowed to vote.
Now, just because the Democrats junked the primary season in favor of anointing a hilariously unqualified woman who was no voter's choice,doesn't mean the Republicans will do so as well. Trump previously bested 16 competitors, and so should his successor
Stop Trump's evil plan. Demand voter ID
this place absolutely cannot become a refuge for Jonah Goldberg. no.
Looks like he's the new Bad Bunny. Expect daily updates.
They've been trying on several different obscure "New Right" spokespeople.
"Does this one make me look fat?"
"Jonah Goldberg and Bill Kristol: The Libertarian Case for Gavin Newsome".
"Doughy Pantload" hasn't been relevant for a decade. Why is Reason platforming him now?
Vance's biggest mistake was alienating the childless cat lady vote. That constituency outnumbers the Groypers (except of course the childless Groyper cat ladies). Can he win them back by 2028?
A series of fireside chats in a tall recliner with a few cats placed strain the chair arms and seat back should solve that probably. In the fifth ad they go for broke and put one in his lap.
That would be a cat-astrophe for the democrats.
Thanks for the insight Jonah fucking Goldberg. lol
newsome will be the next president because women vote for prom king, even republican women
Newsom is one of the few elected Democrats who acknowledges the absurdity of #TransWomenAreWomen as applied to sports. I wonder if that will hurt his chances at the nomination.
Seems Newsom's beliefs are almost exclusively based on who he is speaking to at the time.
Jonah Goldberg is a neocon who has strong interventionist views. In other words a warmonger. JD Vance is the least warmongering warmonger of the field of potential republican candidates.
The fact that Jonah Goldberg even brought up NAZI is a clear indicator that Jonah Goldberg is a suck-up to Israel and is more MIGA than MAGA.
JD Vance is not a perfect choice, but better than Rubio or Neom or the slate of Democrats predicted to run.
Along with Open Borders (EXCEPT FOR ISRAEL)
Paid fucking crony capitalist shill .
Hate to break it to Goldberg but "conservatism" left the party with Silent Cal.
Typical brain dead Reason analysis. Hints that Vance is borderline Nazi. Why? Because "he'll be damned if he'll tolerate attempts to silence or cancel people." But that's what Fascists do, silence dissent. Who proof reads their articles?
Meanwhile, Democrats are getting "less uptight" over...hmmm, Nazi tattoos on a candidate for 20 or so years.
*Those* Nazi tattoos are ok.
Hegseth's tattoos are totally giving 4th Reich . . .
My wife really enjoyed the movie “Hillbilly Eulogy” yesterday. Vance really does have her vote.
A lot of women like him because of his wife also, saw that too with DeSantis.
I haven't watched it. Does it follow him from the holler to Ivy League law school and then working for Peter Thiel in California?
And there is nothing I wish for more than JD Vance being the GOP candidate in the next presidential election thus ensuring a MAGA loss. That smug bastard deserves it. And the fat vance memes will be epic.
As valid analysis as you have for the law. In other words retarded.
Your takes lost at the ussc again. 9-0 with Jackson as the writer. Lol.
Good movie and book. Regardless of that, Vance is relatable, smart, and speaks well while taking no bs. He is a strong candidate and despite how much the media like Reason wants to spin him as a dishonest toadie, most of the country saw his debate with Harris. He is a more mature and effective version of Trump.
Over the last few weeks, I've been musing about what and who, post-Trump, will replace the 2015-2028, totally-dominated-by-Donald-Trump, Republican Party. So, The Dispatch's Jonah Goldberg recently told Reason's Nick Gillespie…
Taking everything I've seen into account, my theory of Post-Trump Republicanism has settled into three factions vying for the 2028 presidential nomination:
• The New Right
• The TechnoAristocracy
• The Good Republican
1) NEW RIGHT MAGANISTAN. The Trump-base MAGA Identitarian true believers Goldberg & Gillespie discuss, mourning the loss of their Sun God/King, plus Stop-the-Steal, & Q-Anon conspiracists, allied with anti-science/MAHA, and all painted with a thick coat of White Nationalism and Pope/King theocratic National Conservatism.
2028 Presidential Candidate: No shortage of self-proclaimed, self-promoting, true heirs of Trump (MTG? Josh Hawley? 'Senator' Ken Paxton?). Could have been Charlie Kirk, but a nazi-curious TUCKER CARLSON seems to have more New Right demagogic potential than any of the MAGA politicians (especially going by the Trump-believing commentariat here).
2) TECHNO-BILLIONAIRE ARISTROCACY. The Theil-Bezos-Zuckerberg-Musk axis who, considering themselves the next step in human evolution, believe it’s logical and only right that humanity be ruled by their own elite Übermensch.
Pro-immigration and finding MAGAnistani nativists distasteful, they want to replace lazy, dumb Americans with tens of millions of useful migrants (a serf class of undocumented and thus controllable, strong-work-ethic, skilled blue-collar labor; plus a tier of intelligent, submissive H1B visa-holders), and don't mind if such immigrants are brown.
None want to BE president—they want to OWN one.
2028 Presidential Candidate: The the submissive, Wholly Owned Honorary H1B visa-holder, JD VANCE.
3) THE GOOD REPUBLICAN. R never-Trumpers like David French & Mitt Romney believe that, like The Good German of the 1930s, GOP Normies were temporarily sucked in by the malign black-hole gravity of an evil ideologue, but will return to traditional 1950-2010 Republicanism’s NatSec/Business/Social Issues three-legged-stool.
2028 Presidential Candidate: The post-2028 Normie leader could be a flipped-again Marco Rubio (that's his strongest skill), but my wildcard is not-MAGA/not-insane, far-right-but-within-the-grounds-of-normal, Georgia Gov. BRIAN KEMP.
That makes the R's fight this decade, a metaphorically bloody, entertaining battle of New Right MAGAnistan and TechnoAristocrats tearing each other apart (MAGA hates the TechnoBros who, in return, are utterly contemptuous of MAGA), giving Kemp an avenue to beat both, and run against whatever the Democrats turn into by then.
Going to be interesting.
Yeah it all makes sense on paper until you factor in the Libertarian spoiler votes.
Both of them?
As long as libertarians don't find out Chase is gay then there won't be spoiler voters.
As Haidt said... democrats have zero clue what their perceived enemies think. Evidence. Your post.
Vance needs to Carpe Diem and eat the cats to win in 2028. Which is a bit of a garbled passage from the Book of Armaments. It should read - and J-D shall feast daily upon the lambs and carps and cats and dragons until such time that the Great Oranguman (PBUH) shall pass the Holy Hand Grenade to the Four Horsemen who shall deliver it to the Three Wise Men who shall gift it to the Two Turtle Doves who shall deliver it from Antioch to Tehranistan.
Get used to the phrase “President Vance”.
Glenn Greenwald called this. Attacks on Tucker or Fuentes (Pakistani troll farms) are a ploy to go after Vance.
Open Borders (except for Israel), right Goldberg?
Speaking of disgruntled neocons, when do we get the wisdom of Bill Kristol in the Reason rotation?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bruh-you-were-calling-war-iran-month-ago
In a stunning display of hypocrisy, neocon warmonger Bill Kristol is now trashing the Trump administration’s strikes on Iran—dubbed “Epic Fury”—despite agitating for military action against the regime for the past 25 years.
Kristol has spent years pushing to thwart Iran’s nuclear ambitions, and was even still doing so in January, only to pivot into full sabotage mode now that Trump has pulled the trigger.
Whether you’re for or against this military action, or waiting to see how it all pans out, we can all agree that Kristol is the most odious TDS-infected worm of a man.
What do the betting markets say chances are the Republican nominee will be somebody like Trump: an individual not usually thought of as a politician, but with high recognition? Background in business, entertainment, media, etc.
Democrats aren't currently set up to do that, and won't be as long as they control urban NY & Cal.
"Trump: an individual not usually thought of as a politician, but with high recognition? "
Someone with no history of raping young girls might be an idea. Even a woman? Even someone who can attract more than 10% of the black vote?
Well, there goes the Democrat front-runners then.
Someone who's not pro genocide and unafraid to say so would be a nice change. Trump's doing Netanyahu's bidding against Iran, twice and counting now, will likely to give them a boost. The Israel firsters will be terribly discredited, maybe even as much as Trump and his child raping pals.
I've long thought that once Trump was finished, someone like Amash, who seems like a decent guy though I don't know how he fares on the stump, will return to the fold with promises to return to competence, honesty and sound leadership. It wouldn't have to be Amash, but any of the other politicians who've clashed with Trump and dropped out along the way. Not clashing with Trump may be seen the sign of a toadying yes-man.
Yeah, the thing Goldberg is that the 'anti-Nazis' have been acting pretty . . . naziish. So its not surprising there's someone coming in to oppose them.
Like, if I oppose the DPRK that doesn't make me anti-democratic just because the DPRK has 'democratic' in their name.
It's sad that a child toiling to be noticed in the deep dungeons of the Reason castle should think something like this is her key to advancement and glory. Perhaps someone should take her aside and advise her quietly that CNN isn't currently hiring.
Has she already forgotten "Vance is Weird" or was she banned from using it to protect its freshness for use in 2028? Reason management prolly think it's the reason Walz is vice-president now and not Vance. It seems to be the kind of thing they do think.