Kristi Noem's Response to ICE Killings in Minnesota Exposes Conservatives' Double Standard on Gun Rights
The Second Amendment protects your right to carry a gun at a protest.
For my entire adult life, I've listened to self-described "constitutional" conservatives strut around like God's gift to the nation's conscience, as they lecture everyone on the importance of upholding the original intent of America's founding document. They've been oddly silent as Donald Trump's administration directly assaults the Constitution. He's not the first one to do it, but he is doing so more brazenly than others.
Even if some "whataboutism" is appropriate, wouldn't it be more consistent for conservatives to criticize these assaults just as they criticized previous assaults under Joe Biden and Barack Obama? Cheering—or remaining silent—as ICE agents arrest those who photograph them (First Amendment), carry out warrantless searches (Fourth Amendment), and ignore the directives of governors (10th Amendment) is the definition of hypocrisy.
As the late conservative writer and Christian apologist Malcolm Muggeridge said, "An orgy looks particularly alluring seen through the mists of righteous indignation." Many modern American conservatives seem to enjoy this orgy of violence as it's carried out under state sanction, but aren't even committed enough to their "Constitution" bit to feign any righteous indignation at it. We've seen a few notable exceptions, but it's the latest example of how partisanship warps people's minds.
But I figured the modern Right would at least draw the line at the one right they seem to place above every other right: the Second Amendment right to gun ownership. Here again the Republican administration has taken a living-and-breathing approach to the Constitution. Some conservatives have complained about the administration's recent comments on guns, but they haven't been as apoplectic as one would expect.
"I don't know of any peaceful protester that shows up with a gun and ammunition rather than a sign," said Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem after ICE agents shot to death Alex Pretti in Minneapolis, per ABC News. FBI Director Kash Patel echoed those sentiments: "As Kristi said, you cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple." Trump also weighed in, calling the nurse an "agitator and, perhaps, insurrectionist." The evidence suggests no such thing, but that's MAGA: always double down.
The hypocrisy is glaring, of course. Republicans have celebrated Kyle Rittenhouse, who killed two people and wounded another at a Black Lives Matter rally in Wisconsin. He testified that he acted in self-defense and a jury acquitted him, but he did in fact travel from Illinois to the protest with a firearm. Officers appeared to have taken Pretti's handgun from him before the fatal encounter, whereas the internet is full of photos of Rittenhouse carrying a semi-automatic rifle.
Contrast conservatives' harsh critique of Pretti with this description from The Guardian of Rittenhouse's appearance at a Turning Point USA conference in Phoenix following his acquittal: "As Rittenhouse took the stage, thousands of cheering fans chanted his name, along with his own theme song, adapted from his name. Hosts asked if any women in the crowd wanted to go on a date with Rittenhouse, prompting loud cheers."
So apparently the ban on carrying a gun "to any protest that you want" has exceptions—at least in Republican circles. The funny thing about the Constitution: It's meant to protect everyone from government overreach. The only way that constitutional rights mean anything is if they are applied equally to friend and foe alike.
But then U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro compounded the administration's problem when she said in a recent Fox News interview: "You bring a gun into the district, you mark my words, you're going to jail. I don't care if you have a license in another district, and I don't care if you're a law-abiding gun owner somewhere else. You bring a gun into this district, count on going to jail and hope you get the gun back." That reinforced the idea that the Second Amendment is fine if, say, you cosplay at a pro-MAGA event or a coffee shop, but maybe not if you're protesting current federal policies.
Politico reported that she backtracked after receiving criticism from some Republicans, but Pirro's new statement wasn't much better than the first one: She said she supports the Second Amendment, but "Washington, D.C. law requires handguns be licensed in the District with the Metropolitan Police Department to be carried into our community." Does that mean Republicans are now onboard handgun licensing? It's easy to get tangled up this way when one lacks consistent principles.
To their credit, some gun-rights supporters did get agitated over this kerfuffle. After the administration's Pretti reaction, the pro-Trump National Rifle Association offered this mild rebuke: "The NRA unequivocally believes that all law-abiding citizens have a right to keep and bear arms anywhere they have a legal right to be." That's good practice. Maybe someday those who claim to champion the Constitution will do so more often, more consistently, and more vigorously.
This column was first published in The Orange County Register.
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The Second Amendment protects your right to carry a gun at a protest, but it’s a stupid thing to do if you are going to get into a fight with cops.
Get into a fight meaning helping someone illegally shoved to the ground by ICE, then his face impeding pepper spray, then getting dogpiled by a bunch of agents for no apparent reason.
No apparent reason? This is your fucking problem, not anyone else'.
Cognitive dissonance is a personal issue, seek help.
Leftists lie. It’s what they do.
The Second Amendment protects your right to carry a gun at a protest - but not a protest where Trump believes guns shouldn't be anywhere in the vicinity.
Trump trumps the Second Amendment
Only stupid people think they can fight cops on the street, and really stupid people do it with a gun in their pants.
Only cops should be armed. Only cops have the right to execute people in the back while they are lying on the ground unarmed.
LOL
I could stand on a street in Minneapolis and execute a 2A supporter and I wouldn't lose a single voter.
Your continuous and total lack of understanding of the issue amuses me.
Yes, in Minneapolis. Wouldn't get arrested, and get high-fived by a Somali. You could steal $10B and your fellow Minnesotans would defend your actions and allow installation of tampon dispensers in boys' bathrooms.
Still not a gun rights issue. You dont have a right to impede law enforcement or fight with them while armed. That's not what the 2a is.
Good thing Pretti didn't do either of those. And if Pretti didn't have a gun, would he have been shot? Probably not. So yeah it's a 2A issue moron.
Poor sarc.
There are places you can carry but might not want too. Like, oh , a big party where everyone is drinking, or a violent protest.
Brownshirt Barbie's Response to ICE Killings
Was merely an opportunity to cosplay in a new uniform.
Still retarded.
Why do the antisemites here love using the brown shirt term? Pure projection?
Especially for people they oppose. You'd think they'd SUPPORT the Brown Shirts.
My brown shirts are speech; your speech challenging my brown shirts is, like, Nazis or something.
You are the brownshirt here.
You may have the right, but it's very stupid to do that and then get physical / violent with law enforcement. Also, I don't recommend carrying a Sig P320 concealed in your back waistband like that.
Sig P320 concealed in your back waistband
Is this really what Pretti was doing? (I admit to ignorance)
If so, sounds like his knowledge of firearms comes from tv shows. Much like chemjeff's - "ICE should've shot out the tires".
Nah. Ideologues should be forced to live under the rules they want to impose on others. Leftists rant that citizens should be disarmed, and only agents of the state should have guns. So show us.
"For my entire adult life, I've listened to self-described "constitutional" conservatives strut around like God's gift to the nation's conscience,"
I look forward to the rest of this measured and well reasoned article.
You might be the only one.
"As the late conservative writer and Christian apologist Malcolm Muggeridge said, "An orgy looks particularly alluring seen through the mists of righteous indignation." Many modern American conservatives seem to enjoy this orgy of violence"
Seriously? Orgy of violence? This is what's getting published at Reason?
What if Teen Reason, Jacobin, and the Huffington Post had a baby?
"But I figured the modern Right would at least draw the line at the one right they seem to place above every other right: the Second Amendment right to gun ownership."
Above every other right? First I'm hearing this.
How to tell people you don't understand the values of conservatives without telling people you don't understand conservatives. Or libertarians.
He lost me when he said the nurse dude that kicked the taillight out of a cop car was not an agitator and explained that Kyle Rittenhouse drove 15 miles from Illinois to Wisconsin. Couldn't read the rest.
"and ignore the directives of governors (10th Amendment) is the definition of hypocrisy."
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"
Is immigration not delegated to the feds? Is large scale fraud of federal money not a federal issue?
"I don't know of any peaceful protester that shows up with a gun and ammunition rather than a sign," said Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem after ICE agents shot to death Alex Pretti in Minneapolis, per ABC News. FBI Director Kash Patel echoed those sentiments: "As Kristi said, you cannot bring a firearm loaded with multiple magazines to any sort of protest that you want. It's that simple."
Kash is wrong. Noem's statement seems pretty reasonable though.
"The hypocrisy is glaring, of course. Republicans have celebrated Kyle Rittenhouse, who killed two people and wounded another at a Black Lives Matter rally in Wisconsin."
That wasn't a rally liar.
“He testified that he acted in self-defense and a jury acquitted him, but he did in fact travel from Illinois to the protest with a firearm.”
Again, not a protest. And he was there to protect property. Some might even say the right to property is not actually below the 2nd amendment. And what does him traveling from Illinois have to do with anything?
This is another example of Reason helping to sabotage legitimate criminal justice reform. If they continue to frame violent mobs destroying property as protest they lose all credibility.
Yeah. The irony of this argument. Rittenhouse was defending private property against the legal observers rioting.
The whole “he crossed state lines” thing is funny.
Same low-IQ shit from Reason as usual: If ICE is Kyle Rittenhouse, does that make Good and Pretti the equivalent of Grosskreutz, Rosenbaum, and Huber? 2A advocates lauded Rittenhouse for defending private property, defending peaceable assembly, and himself. Rittenhouse fled until cornered, then fired in self defense, fled some more until tripped up and pinned, then fired in self defense, then fled the scene and disengaged when cops showed up. Pretti and Good did none of this.
Because Reason can't have their dishonest "We defend the 2A, really!" nuts kicked in hard enough over this: if ICE had choked out Good, Pretti, or both; a la Daniel Penny, would we be getting no news because nobody got shot or a forced "Constitutional Crisis" argument (once again) over a whole group of Michael Jackson impersonators?
Reason is trying to force a false "Constitutional Crisis" (again) in defense of their own lawlessness. The problem is, they're inhuman, bad faith actors to their core, willing to tell any lie to advance their cause. There's no reason not to ask them, rightly, why they're in favor of arming rioters and escalating conflict and whether they actually understand or believe in the 2A at all? Should more adversarial 'legal observers' and protestors be allowed into Reason headquarters with guns? As long as they're not brandishing any weapons or shooting anybody, nobody's rights are being infringed and no speech is getting chilled, right?
Well now we know, if you fire into a crowd of leftists rioters, you have a 100% chance of hitting pedos.
The Second Amendment protects your right to carry a gun at a protest.
Chérif and Saïd Kouachi weren't murderous ideologues, they were just legal observers protesting Charlie Hebdo when things went sideways.
Seriously, retards, people haven't fallen for this "My wife ran into a door jamb and then fell down some stairs." routine for decades. You and your sympathetic activists have been pulling it since "Hands up, don't shoot!" and it hasn't worked. Most people would've rightly recognized the absurdity of "mostly peaceful" as a shameful high water mark and backed off.
Yes, if you beat your wife for decades and won't stop and she pulls a gun on you, 2A supporters are going to be divided as to whether she has every right to replace the metabolic regulation center of your brain with 115 grains of jacketed lead.
It's not the 2A supporters' fault for "abandoning" you because you're an irredeemable piece of shit and have been for decades.
To wit:
Puerto Rico governor signs law to recognize fetus as human being as critics warn of consequences
I agree with this law. However, I will fully concede that if there were one place in the country where women were too poor and uneducated to finance their own abortions and couldn't just walk, hitchhike, or hop on a bus to the next state over, it's PR (and similar island territories). Instead, you dumb fucks have absolutely sold your mortal and rational souls on "MUH JONES ACT!" and "THEY"ZE BLEEDIN" OUT IN HOSPITUL PARKING LOTZ!!!"
Sad liberals like Greenhut don't have such full throated attacks on democrats constant assult on gun ownership and the 2A. But we all know, that is (D)ifferent.
If you had a brain you'd remember Reason had an article about Virginia's anti-gun bills.
Ooooh, an article!
Hey you idiotic fvckhead, does the stupid shit you write “expose” All libertarians?
Hello lieing sack of shit greenhut.
Nohiem said stupid shit and about 99.9% of conservatives said they disagree with her.
Instead of cherry picking 1 thing and extrapalating it to all, I recommend you go participate in maid.
Quick question how many dems pushed back against illian and waltz calling to attack feds? Still 0? Fuck off.
Of course you accuse those you hate with doing what you do.
Everyone knows there is a double standard created by the democrats in media and the courts.
It's like your guilt is overwhelming and projecting your hate and lies is a way to feel less guilt while trying to make your opponents appear as bad as you do. Whatever means necessary to get what you want. You have no honour.
Sorry for your failing, the people see though this now. Your old games will not curry favour anymore.
No one takes these clowns seriously.
Trying to take everyone's guns in one breath but letting the criminals whom act with political violence against their sworn enemies, they put back on the street after bailing them out.
The media and democrats are tying to protect illegals with gun crimes creating a double standard by accusing law enforcement doing their jobs and carrying out the will of the people which is upholding the rule of law and mass deportations of illegal criminals.