The Killing of Alex Pretti Is a Reminder That All State Laws Are Backed Up by Violence
If enforcing a law isn't worth killing someone over, it probably shouldn't be a law.
The killing of Alex Pretti by U.S. Border Patrol agents in Minneapolis, Minnesota, is hard to defend for anyone who watched the video of his horrifying slaying.
Only a few of the most rapid anti-immigration hawks on social media are still arguing that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents were in the right when they shot a restrained, unarmed Pretti multiple times.
Even President Donald Trump has walked back some of his immediate slanders of Pretti. The administration is now seemingly making moves to get its operation in Minneapolis under control.
Lest they cede too much ground to anti-ICE protestors, more sophisticated conservatives are saying that while the Pretti shooting was regrettable or unnecessary, the 37-year-old intensive care unit nurse would still be alive if he had merely chosen to stay home instead of interfering with the Trump administration's immigration crackdown in the Twin Cities.
Hear political commentator Megyn Kelly say that it's easy to avoid being shot by federal agents if only one stays indoors.
Megyn Kelly: "I know I'm supposed to feel sorry for Alex Pretti but I don't. You know why I wasn't shot by Border Patrol this weekend? Because I kept my ass inside and out of their operations."
pic.twitter.com/CNZkoUmXj9— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) January 27, 2026
Or witness National Review's Rich Lowry's frustration on X that protesters' resistance to ICE is generating more and more on-camera abuses by ICE agents that undermine the legitimacy of their mission.
The Left is in a cycle of constant self-radicalization—the resistance to ICE creates the predicate for tragedies that are used to justify ever-more resistance and the demand for the de-facto nullification of federal immigration law in Minneapolis
— Rich Lowry (@RichLowry) January 25, 2026
There's something trivially true about both sentiments when applied to Pretti and Renee Good, the woman shot in her car by an ICE agent a few weeks prior.
Had both stayed home and out of ICE's way, they'd still be alive. Had neither been shot, the surge in support for abolishing ICE and the public's general souring on the administration's immigration crackdown would not have happened.
Their true statements still involve a remarkable amount of blame-shifting from perpetrator to victim, particularly in Pretti's case.
Kelly and Lowry's points also contain a pretty damning admission about the nature of the state's immigration restrictions: the less popular they are, the more violence will be required to enforce them.
All state laws ultimately rest on the threat of violent enforcement. Libertarians have long been making this point.
That's what the old adage "taxation is theft" is meant to highlight. If you don't pay your taxes, eventually men with guns will take your money and put you in prison. If you resist, you might well get shot.
The fact that IRS agents aren't periodically gunning people down in the streets doesn't mean this threat of violence isn't real. And the fact that most people dutifully file a tax return each year doesn't make taxation fully consensual.
People's peaceful submission to the taxman rests in part on an acknowledgement of the costs of resistance and an acceptance that a world where people pay their taxes is a better one than a world where people don't.
Even libertarians who believe taxation is theft, but have not gone into full tax-strike mode, agree with the latter point. Their willingness to pay taxes, even under protest, reveals a belief that it's better to whittle down the state through normal political means of legislation, advocacy, and education than outright resistance.
It would be wrong to call this arrangement a "social contract." But it is a social truce between individuals and the state.
Of course, that truce would not last long if IRS agents regularly gunned down people who didn't submit their W-4s or claimed unjustified business expenses.
Whatever truce existed on the issue of immigration enforcement has likewise broken down under the Trump administration's flashy, violent, and incompetent deportation drives in Minneapolis and elsewhere.
As people watch masked federal agents drag their fellow citizens from their homes, raid businesses, arrest people at their work, and assault peaceful protestors, their willingness to accept the execution of immigration restrictions they vehemently disagree with declines.
Instead of staying home, they go out into the street to protest, to film ICE agents, to blow whistles, etc. That opposition has elicited more violence from federal officials, and thus more resistance from individual citizens.
Lowry describes this as "self-radicalization," but it is more accurately described as individual activation against persistent state violence and abuse.
A common right-wing defense of the Trump administration's immigration crackdown is to say, "This is what I voted for." Very well. But a lot of people did not vote for Trump's immigration crackdown. Even fewer are pleased with its implementation.
Whatever social truce that would have allowed for a more hawkish enforcement of immigration laws has evaporated.
Supporters of that hawkish enforcement need to acknowledge that their vote is no longer enough. They're left with either supporting continued ICE violence and more shootings of citizens like Pretti or accepting that their goal of more deportations isn't worth more bloodshed.
ICE protestors likewise have to decide for themselves how much risk they're willing to accept when protesting the efforts of ICE agents.
One would hope that largely progressive protestors' exposure to state violence might engender in them a wider appreciation that many laws—not just visa requirements—are enforced at the barrel of a gun.
For instance, Pete Buttigieg, the former Democratic presidential candidate and Biden administration transportation secretary, irritatingly called on libertarians to "step up" and join the anti-ICE chorus.
If there was ever a moment for libertarians and conservatives to step up and join the rest of us, we're in it.
Americans have to unite and stop this descent from a freedom-loving nation into the kind of place where masked, militarized government agents are sent to politically…
— Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) January 24, 2026
Libertarians have long been in favor of abolishing ICE, along with most aspects of immigration enforcement. They've also been adamant supporters of Second Amendment rights, something Buttigieg, a supporter of expanded firearms restrictions, can't say.
In the wake of the Pretti shooting, administration officials pointed to the fact that he was legally carrying a firearm to justify ICE agents' shooting him. In that context, perhaps Buttigieg and his fellow progressives could also "step up" and concede that enforcing additional restrictions on now-legal gun ownership is not worth killing people over either.
If one isn't willing to accept federal agents' guns going off in the context of immigration enforcement, you should question the many other state mandates that could ultimately be enforced with deadly violence.
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How many people have to die so we can have cheap labor?
BTW, Midterms typically have low voter turn-out, they are a great and bloodless way to express your will.
How many people have to die to ensure that we don't end up living in a police state? The issue that triggered the police action is at this point almost irrelevant.
No, we shouldn't allow illegal immigration. No, we shouldn't be stomping all over constitutional rights, due process and general good-government in the name of stopping it. You've thrown the baby out with the bathwater. Stop it.
"The issue that triggered the police action is at this point almost irrelevant."
That is why I brought it up.
"The issue is never the issue, the issue is always the revolution." - Saul Alinsky
Are you saying it's impossible (or too impractical) to remove illegal aliens without violating constitutional rights, due process, and general good-government?
Pretti would still be alive if he hadn't interfered with law enforcement, if Democrats weren't ginning up hysteria. Did the man deserve to die, no and it is a tragedy. One maybe we can learn from and:
a) Have the local police work with ICE to prevent any more tragedies
b) turn down the rhetoric and take a fucking chill pill
Did Pretti deserve to die?
No.
Nor did the residents of Jonestown.
But they all had the same problem.
Decisions matter.
They also don't die if there is no masked getapo in the streets. There was NO immediate THREAT to ICE or anyone else in either case. Just thugs doing thug things.
Reason's weird take again. Make the law enforcers look bad by being bad to them, forcing them to violence. so lets get rid of the laws. heck lets stop enforcing nay law anyone disagress with
So the resident victims of a masked, jack-booted invasion force are at fault for their own murder when they dare to protest? What are you authoritarians doing in this libertarian space? We've heard it all before. Reason mag exists as a reaction to YOU.
Many of the "protestors" are no more than jackbooted thugs unlawfully stopping individuals who they think "look like" ICE or ICE supporters, stealing or destroying their property, and even beating them bloody. And you couldn't give a shit. Fuck you.
There was NO immediate THREAT to ICE or anyone else in either case. Just thugs doing thug things. and "libertarians" here defending them LOL
These victims victimize ANYBODY they can possibly victimize. Ask independent conservative journalists how things are in Minneapolis.
Fucking A, it’s gotten so out of hand that we’re actually discussing Libertarian topics once again:
The Killing of Alex Pretti Is a Reminder That All State Laws Are Backed Up by Violence
Now do taxes
That's what the old adage "taxation is theft" is meant to highlight. If you don't pay your taxes, eventually men with guns will take your money and put you in prison. If you resist, you might well get shot.
Now I know it’s gotten off the hook
Fuck off commie, Good was not just sitting in her car when ICE shot her but actively interfering with enforcement operations, resisting arrest and attempting to run over an agent. Your framing is dishonest in the extreme but exactly what I've come to expect from Jakobin 2.0.
Yes! Go get 'em!! These commie scumbags.. clearly the next logical step for you would be to renounce your affiliation with
ReasonJakobin 2.0; stop donating; spend all your waking hours commenting exclusively on Truth Social and ZeroHedge; and never stain your soul in these comments again.There was NO immediate THREAT to ICE or anyone else in either case. Just thugs doing thug things.
BREAKING: Newly obtained BBC footage shows a man who looks like Alex Petti, armed, spitting at federal agents, and kicking out a taillight one week before the CBP incident that resulted in his death.
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2016618912612294903
I thought he was at the ICU saving veteran’s lives.
Seriously, whoever made that holster should screen shot this for an add.
“Keeps your gun secure even during an ICE beatdown”
And doing all that with a gun on his hip. Rule of stupid. It's becoming increasingly clear Pretti violated all three parts of the rule.
Yes! The smoking gun (metaphorically-speaking) we needed! This settles it - clearly that absolute scumbag Pretti deserved to die.
Thanks GOPI - not just Breaking News; Breathtaking News.
Clearly showing a few things:
1. Fucking stupid. This video needs to be saved and shown in every CCW class for "how you dont act when you have a firearm". Irresponsible, reckless; he created a danger for himself and everyone else there as well.
2. Went with intent to disrupt law enforcement and scuffle with them. Not to render aid.
3. What he learned from this incident: "I can go and harass officers while armed and resist/wrestle with them, and then go about my day". This behavior not being squashed (should have arrested him that day) and this environment being allowed to go on caused this mans death.
He would be alive if he didn't physically involve himself in a law enforcement operation. The videos I've seen make it look really bad for the CBP shooting him, but not interjecting in whatever they were doing would have resulted in zero harm to him.
If only laws worth killing over were the standard, there will be a lot more killing. No consequences for the vast majority of crimes will lead to a hell of a lot of citizen justice. As long as all the citizen protectors aren't prosecuted, go for it. I'm tired of speed limits, anyways.
He would be alive if he didn't physically involve himself in a law enforcement operation.
He would be alive if the CBP agent in the beige cap didn't go out of his way to shove protesters around for no reason, acting like a common street brawler instead of a professional cop.
A couple points. First, this incident did not involve ICE. It involved officers from Border Patrol and Customs & Border Protection, whose orders from DHS were significantly different from ICE's operations elsewhere...namely, that any illegal alien was game, as opposed to only illegal
Aliens with convictions or arrests for crimes. BP and CBP are uniformed officers whose role and teaming is patrol of borders and international ports; they are not trained to follow up on individuals to arrest criminal offenders, nor largely in the response to protests or mass activities.
Second, "If enforcing a law isn't worth killing someone over, it probably shouldn't be a law," brings into what laws would be left? As a retired LEO I have been aware of many incidents where a minor offense suddenly resulted in use of force. I realize, I hope, the author meant otherwise than was written, but it overlooks reality.
Otherwise...this was a boondoggle from the Whitehouse on down.
"If enforcing a law isn't worth killing someone over, it probably shouldn't be a law," brings into what laws would be left?
Almost none. I have to confess I used to be in this space, but then I passed through Jr. High graduation and stopped saying stuff like this.
So what laws would be left? Other than murder and major sex offenses, nothing else rise to that level. So, you would permit theft, robbery, fraud, assault, dangerous traffic offenses?
I was uh, agreeing with you. Don't get me killed, new guy.
A couple points. First, this incident did not involve ICE. It involved officers from Border Patrol and Customs & Border Protection, whose orders from DHS were significantly different from ICE's operations elsewhere...namely, that any illegal alien was game, as opposed to only illegal
Aliens with convictions or arrests for crimes. BP and CBP are uniformed officers whose role and teaming is patrol of borders and international ports; they are not trained to follow up on individuals to arrest criminal offenders, nor largely in the response to protests or mass activities.
Second, "If enforcing a law isn't worth killing someone over, it probably shouldn't be a law," brings into what laws would be left? As a retired LEO I have been aware of many incidents where a minor offense suddenly resulted in use of force. I realize, I hope, the author meant otherwise than was written, but it overlooks reality.
Otherwise...this was a boondoggle from the Whitehouse on down.
Good point. This law that the ICE agents keep citing, about "impeding" officers, seems awfully vague. Is blowing a whistle "impeding"? Maybe that law ought to be narrowed down a bit.
The "impeding" part was when Pretti inserted himself between the women CBP was dealing with and CBP itself..
What was the reason for the officer to shove the women in the first place?
It shouldn't be automatically assumed that the officer's actions had a legitimate law enforcement purpose. If the officer is just acting like a common street brawler, then the privileges of the badge should go away.
Bootlickers do not care...unless it is jan 6th of course. There was NO immediate THREAT to ICE or anyone else in either case. Just thugs doing thug things.
I'd say blowing a whistle could be "impeding" based on the circumstances. Whistle blowing, especially given its proximity to the hearer, can be anything from a nuisance to harmful to the hearer based on the volume and repetition. It also makes communication between officers (and anyone else for that matter) more difficult.
the whistle blowing really complicates the assigning of blame
What about loud yelling? What about using a megaphone or air horns?
The problem is when the definition of "impeding" is so broad that it starts to overlap with protected free speech rights. Officers are not permitted to violate rights in the course of enforcing the law. I am going to land on the side of an expansive protection of the free speech rights of citizens. If citizens exercising their rights makes law enforcement more difficult, then so be it.
The Killing of Alex Pretti Is a Reminder That All State Laws Are Backed Up by Violence
If enforcing a law isn't worth killing someone over, it probably shouldn't be a law.
This feels like Reason has seen some of the recently release Pretti video where it seems obvious he violated the rule of stupid*: Don't go to stupid places at stupid times and do stupid things-- and now we're backing away from the specifics and taking the 50,000' view of "borders are like a social konstructz" position.
*As the rule goes, it's generally accepted that you can violate 1 of those things, but if you violate 2 you're probably going to be in trouble and if you violate all 3, you're really... REALLY going to get into trouble.
Has anyone bothered to ask why we aren't seeing any footage from all of the "legal observers" that were there observing? I've only seen a couple of short clips. It seems like they would be eager to get their message out had it gone down like they're telling us.
They also don't seem to notice that people like me think it is WORTH killing people to terminate an invasion.
Again, waving Good's and Pretti's bloody shirts is an indication that the pro open borders side wanted some of their useful idiot protesters to die for the cause for propaganda. These "protests" have been openly angry, racist and protecting of some of the worst kinds of criminals.
And is immigration law really that unpopular? If it was, would you not be able to repeal most of it? I think it is not terribly unpopular, otherwise you would not be going after a strategy of making it unenforceable by abolishing the only law enforcement body authorized to enforce it, because your side sees a de facto repeal as more feasible than a de jure one.
These protests have been one of the most disgustingly disingenuous pieces of political theater I have seen in my lifetime and the writers here are neck deep in shilling for it.
The calls to abolish ICE are as crazy (or disingenuous depending on the speaker) as the calls in 2020 to abolish police in general. No enforcement of duly enacted laws nullifies the law. Why not be honest and call for a repeal of the laws you claim are immoral or unjust? Or is that much harder to sell to the voting public, so you'll settle for subterfuge?
I love libertarians opposition to police given that their entire political belief system requires police to enforce.
Yet those calls have led to lower crime rates. Bet you won't be giving any credit for it.
And is immigration law really that unpopular? If it was, would you not be able to repeal most of it?
Immigration reform IS popular.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/692522/surge-concern-immigration-abated.aspx
Allowing immigrants, who were brought to the U.S. illegally as children, the chance to become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements over a period of time: 85% support
Allowing immigrants living in the U.S. illegally the chance to become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements over a period of time: 78% support
"Mass deportations" only has 38% support.
The problem is not popular sentiment. The problem is Congress.
abolishing the only law enforcement body authorized to enforce it
Think of it this way. There are a lot of libertarians who say "Abolish the Fed". Do those libertarians really want to get rid of all currency? Probably not. They aren't opposed to currency in general. They are opposed to an institution (the Fed) that they believe is harmful to the cause of having a sound money supply.
Getting rid of ICE does not mean getting rid of any way to enforce any immigration law. It means getting rid of the way that *ICE SPECIFICALLY* is currently trying to enforce immigration law, via raids, roving gangs, and thuggish authoritarian behavior.
They know that, but the misrepresentation the title implies is something to grab onto and cry about. Because their lives would be empty without reason comment section to cry in.
"If enforcing a law isn't worth killing someone over, it probably shouldn't be a law.”
This may qualify as the stupidest subhead ever. So should we repeal all criminal statutes other than capital offenses, or should we make all criminal laws capital offenses?
When you say "There ought to be a law!", it is good idea to consider if it is something worth using state violence to enforce. There is a problem eith making that judgment after therevisca law in place, and it does not consider what the effect of the law is.
I like how Reason thinks it is a solid idea to simply ignore duly passed laws we do not like.
But ONLY for illegal immigration.
Illegal, say, trespassing is worth a death sentence to them.
When did we reach the point where individuals think they get to decide which federal laws are enforceable and which are not? If one doesn’t like laws, there is a means of changing them. It’s happened numerous times. Showing up at a protest and interfering with cops is stupid. So is the blind partisanship rhat sees Good and Pretti as martyrs but Ashlee Babbit getting what she deserved, or vice versa. None had to die; each had a hand in the outcome. Also, CNN and perhaps others went on ICE ride alongs in the Obama years. Tom Homan ran point then as he’s doing now. As a veteran commenter here used to say, this feigned outrage smacks of principals over principles.
Just so we're clear, laws against murder, rape, arson, fraud, kidnapping, theft etc are all bad from a Libertarian (tm) perspective?
I think it's worse than that. It's laws against shoplifting-- pretty much all non-violent theft regardless of the amount taken, laws against vandalism, anything pretty much anyone was convicted of during January 6... you know, the other January 6, not the recent one.
"The Left is in a cycle of constant self-radicalization—the resistance to ICE creates the predicate for tragedies that are used to justify ever-more resistance and the demand for the de-facto nullification of federal immigration law in Minneapolis"
This is exactly it, and it cant be reinforced. Its good that Walz finally called state and local cops to do their jobs, and if he didnt it would have been prudent to send the military.
This is a tantrum. They lost the *democratic* election, new poll shows 55% approval of deporting ALL illegals, like 80% for deporting illegal criminals. They dont have the public on their side, they dont have the election on their side, so they are tard raging at having the law enforced, to get some sort of new george floyd, to generate more public sentiment to allow them to tard rage harder, with the end goal of not having the law enforced.
This kind of behavior has to be absolutely stopped, cannot be allowed to continue in any way. Similar to the 2020 riots. Should have been stamped out much sooner, we consistently allow the left to tantrum and destroy shit when they dont get their way. That cant go on
Maybe you should stop regarding them as children, and start recognizing them as fellow citizens, equivalent in legal standing to you.
Law is certainly backed up ultimately by force, but that's not at all necessarily lethal force. And I always remember Leo Strauss's verdict on the Weimar government [approximately] that it presented the sorry spectacle of Justice unable, or unwilling, to use the sword.
And we know how that story finished up.
Never again should anyone try to persuade the stupid person with reasons. Reasons fall on deaf ears. Facts that contradict one's prejudgment simply need not be believed. More than that, becoming aware of that is the basis for attack because that awareness undermines the self-satisfaction of the stupid and exposes his utter subordination to power.
If enforcing a law isn't worth killing someone over, it probably shouldn't be a law.
I'm also shocked at the number of people who think dying over a state law was like, totally worth it.