The Trump Administration's Deportation Reels Keep Getting Copyright Strikes for Using Music Without Permission

Without any real consequences for copyright infringements, the Department of Homeland Security doesn't have much incentive to follow the law.

As masked Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents deploy to U.S. cities, the Trump administration is also running a social media campaign. Its effort to stay viral online is colliding with copyright law.

Between January 26 and November 10, 2025, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) posted 487 times on Instagram—more than 28 percent of the agency's total posting since joining the platform in 2014. The posts promote the crackdown by mixing 20th century propaganda with modern memes, and they feature a wide range of popular imagery and audio.

But not all the content they use has been licensed—or welcomed. Several creators have pushed back on the unauthorized use of their copyright-protected work.

In July, the band Black Rebel Motorcycle Club blasted DHS for using its rendition of "God's Gonna Cut You Down" without permission in a since-removed video featuring DHS Secretary Kristi Noem. "It's obvious that you don't respect Copyright Law and Artist Rights any more than you respect Habeas Corpus and Due Process rights," the band said in a post on X.

Singer Kenny Loggins requested that his song "Danger Zone" be removed from an AI video Donald Trump posted on Truth Social depicting the president dumping feces
on protesters from a fighter jet. Songs by MGMT, Jay-Z, and Tom Petty were likewise removed after the artists or their estates condemned the unauthorized use. Olivia Rodrigo also called out DHS for using her song "all-american bitch" in a video encouraging self-deportation. Rodrigo, whose father is Filipino, commented, "Don't ever use my songs to promote your racist, hateful propaganda."

DHS' unauthorized use of copyright
protected work extends beyond music. Over the summer, the White House used audio from British airline Jet2.com without the company's endorsement.

In September 2025, comedian Theo Von objected to DHS using his voice in a video. "I didn't approve to be used in this," Von wrote in a comment to the video. "I know you know my address so send a check." He requested the video be removed, saying that his views on immigration are "more nuanced than this video allows."

The department also used the Pokémon theme song and visuals in an unauthorized promotional video, comparing undocumented immigrants to fictional creatures that are caught for sport, and posted an image from the video game Halo, likening undocumented immigrants to a parasitic infection. When asked about the pushback from the game's creators, a DHS spokesperson told journalist Alyssa Mercante, "We will reach people where they are with content they can relate to and understand, whether that be Halo, Pokémon, Lord of the Rings, or any other medium."

DHS is bound by copyright law, as Congress waived the federal government's sovereign immunity from copyright infringement. While the agency might claim the posts qualify as "fair use"—which permits limited use of copyrighted material without permission for reasons such as criticism, commentary, and news reporting—promotional material and recruitment advertisements would likely be considered commercial use, requiring copyright holder permission.

Although this "ask for forgiveness, not permission" approach risks lawsuits, the Trump administration—under a notoriously litigious president—seems to be willing to roll the dice. So far it's working. Despite many notable copyright strikes on social media platforms this year, no lawsuits have been filed against DHS or the Trump administration for any recent copyright infringements.

Even if the Trump administration were taken to court, it isn't clear that a loss would stop the offending posts. Successful plaintiffs cannot compel the federal government to stop or remove infringing material. They can only demand that the artists receive "reasonable and entire compensation," including monetary damages and lost profits associated with the infringement. Litigation may make sense when copyright holders can prove they've suffered large monetary losses from the government's infringement, but litigation is not an effective way to stop future use of unauthorized content.

Rather than spend time and money acquiring approval for its use of copyrighted work, DHS can simply shrug off instances where creators object. Without any real consequences for copyright infringements, DHS simply doesn't have much incentive to follow the law. Under Trump, DHS flouts copyright law with impunity. Ironic, given the whole premise of its propaganda push is that it's restoring the rule of law to the immigration system.

Comments

[Vernon Depner]

Copyrighting songs is retarded, anyway. Our country's original copyright laws excluded songs from copyright privilege on the grounds that originality could not proven. They were right. All pop songs are derivative. Every possible, useful melody and chord progression has been reused a million times. Who "owns" the 12-bar blues?

[Stupid Government Tricks]

The immorality of copyrights and patents is also one of the standard libertarian themes. But as long as Autumn Billings can beat the TDS anti-ICE drum, that's irrelevant.

Ahh, principles, who needs 'em.

[Chinny Chin Chin]

remember all the really principled stands commenters were taking with respect to immigration law? like, those were LAWS, and LAWS HAVE TO BE ENFORCED because principles!

thank goodness you were in those threads, pointing out how a standard libertarian theme has long been that laws restricting freedom of movement are immoral

because principles, right?

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

When you agree to stop stealing g money from others to give to your precious immigrants, ill agree to full freedom of movement.

Until then youre just a thief.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

And a TDS-addled steaming pile of lying lefty shit.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Thanks for assuming you know my stance on immigration or anything else.

That's a principle too: know whereof you speak.

You're just another bloomin' statist happy to tell everyone else how to think and how to behave. You haven't got a lick of principle on your head.

[DesigNate]

The principal isn’t “LAWS GOOD”, it’s governments exist at the pleasure of their Citizens to maintain order in a given geographical area.

Pretty hard to do that if you don’t enforce your borders.

[ML (now paying)]

Stop giving away hundreds of billions to attract new voters, and make your pet illegals get by on their own dime without breaking employment and licensing regs, and you would have a point.

Either that or lobby the government to give hundreds of billions to copyright violators.

Fucking retard.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Always amuses me how people who dont create shit are so open to stealing from those who do. The fact you include patents with copyright shows you just want to take from others.

Sure individuals and businesses spend years and billions of dollars a year creating while you do not, you think you just deserve things.

Parents have a 7 year window, often from years of work, effort and money spent creating.

You intentionally mix this with copyright and the questionable 70ish years with extensions.

We already see the costs of patent and trade secret theft in business. China estimated over 200B a year in costs.

But you deserve the work of others.

Reforming copyright should be done. But patents? Fuck off thief. You did nothing to deserve those. You dont deserve the work of others.

Same fucking dishonesty we see when the left mixes illegal with illegal immigration.

But you just deserve the work and money of others right?

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Let me clarify this for you STG before ignoring whatever ignorance youll use to justify your economics beleif system.

Milton Friedman and others actually called for stronger IP protection with their beliefs of offshoring manufacturing. They understood that when you offshore manufacturing it creates dependencies. They desired the US to be the intellectual capital of the world. Using IP protections as the economic engine. This is required when you implement their plans. Again. Milton advocated for STRONGER protections. Because they werent idiots.

Scenario.

Domestic company invests 1M into an idea. Cost of manufacturing is 1 dollar per widget. Company has to sell widget (if 1M estimate of sales) at $2 a widget to just break even.

China steals idea. Their costs are 1 follar per widget. They now sell widget at 1.50. Instead of break even they make 50% profit at 25% discount as they didnt have to research or invest.

Stg: freek market bitches. Fuck you for investing in research and develoent. USA. USA.

Company shuts down as they cant compete. Other companies discouraged from investing in IRAD.

The fact you dont realize one of the reasons the USA advanced so far technology was due to patents and having companies disclose invention for limited monopolies on invention, again 7 years, is wild to me. But it's a sign of someone who has never invented, never tried to invent, and thinks theft is part of the free market.

Youre free to share whatever you invent. But the fact you want to take the choice away from others who want to recoup their costs, fuck off.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Jesse: thinks up scenarios involving unspecified unqualified "theft". How exactly did this Chinese company steal the IP? Break in? — trespass, bitch. Bribe an employee? — employee breach of contract, bitch. Reverse engineer? Tell me that doesn't take resources, effort, and skill, and mean lagging the original by two generations, and take effort away from actually understand the process and developing their own inhouse expertise, without actually telling me how ignorant you are. You've bragged about "your" company and business skills but never actually said what they are. I'm beginning to suspect you've got a hot dog pushcart somewhere.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

You’re so shrill and desperate. Just take the ‘L’ and walk away.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

You too, resorting to insults when you can't rebut something. But I'm sure Jesse appreciates having another lackey.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

Jesse already took care of the rebuttal. And even being loaded up in cold medication I can see your argument is a load of crap.

Generally speaking, implementing your view of the world would be ultimately catastrophic. So again, take the ‘L’ and walk away.

And feel free to thank us, especially Jesse, for straightening you out. It’s more than you deserve.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Yeah. He retreats to the same retarded arguments. He has a set of beliefs and no matter how they are countered he wont even question his religion. From this issue to economics. In the face of data or not.

Accepted a brief without inspection as a child, thought it made him smart to repeat it, and lost complete interest in the subject. But he doesnt understand his belief so it is blind repetition.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Perhaps you should have read what I wrote.

The immorality of copyrights and patents is also one of the standard libertarian themes.

Notice: I did not say what my stance is on copyrights and patents. I said what the standard libertarian stance is.

Once again, you jump to conclusions, just like Chinny chin chin. Congratulations.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

There is no ‘standard libertarian stance’ on this any more than there is on abortion.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

He gatekeeps the libertarian bumper stickers sir. No understanding needed.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Standard? I think there is debate there. Libertarians also think people should be able profit from their work and have their property rights protected. I think some of the law gets ridiculous, but by and large think its a good.

[Vernon Depner]

There is no such thing as "intellectual property". "Owning" an idea is fundamentally different from owning property. Copyrights and patents are an infringement on rights. That doesn't mean they aren't a good idea sometimes, but recognize that they are a privilege granted by government, not a property right.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

I truly hate this take.

Ideas are property. Inventions are property. Test data is property. Market trial data is property.

All of these take money and effort to do.

You would never argue labor isnt a form of property. You would never argue the landscaper can withhold labor if you refuse to pay him. Because labor takes time and often money buying tools, advertising, etc.

The entire reason the USA advanced so quickly was through IP protections thst require disclosure for limited monopolies. This is what fed the engine of the US manufacturing and invention boom. Prior to this we had companies in closely guarded secrets. Think stone masons, guilds, etc. Even those were defended as property rights by asserting contractual rights against disclosure for members of the guild or face financial penalty.

It seems the definition of property you want to advicate is meant solely to harm those who work on ideas and invention, likely you not being part of this group. So you feel justified ignoring their labor in time and money.

IRAD costs alone are hundreds of billion a year. There is literal costs associated with this. Just like labor. Just like materials.

Remove IP then you go back to closely held information. If that information is stolen, what do you propose is the remedy? The courts? Lawsuits? Or is it stealers keepers in your world? That is what the entire IP system is protecting.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

You're just another idiot.

Here's a take that will be over your head.

Ever heard of self-ownership? Probably.

Ever thought how that defines property as a natural consequence? Probably not.

If you make chairs for a living and each takes ten hours, then my stealing one from you has stolen ten hours of your life. It is no different from threatening your family to force you to make me a chair. Theft is slavery after the fact, slavery is theft before the fact.

Then let's turn to intellectual property. Me copying your idea has stolen nothing from you. I cannot force you to think up a new idea on demand, and the very concept of forcing you to rethink an old idea all over again is laughable.

The concept is so laughable, in fact, that IP only exists in the legal sense because the Constitution expressly allows it. Another indication of how laughable IP is shows in how easily and often Congress has changed its coverage and duration.

Slavery doesn't need a definition. Stealing a chair doesn't need a definition. But treating copying an idea as theft does need a definition just to exist, and it changes all the time. Sheet music, recordings, those had to be expressly added to copyright laws after the fact, whereas stealing a sheet of printed music or a 45 RPM vinyl record fit into the standard theft paradigm as soon as the first ones were invented.

In other words, intellectual property is a legal figment of the imagination. It has no bearing in physical reality.

[RobertWorth]

Of course "slavery' and "stealing" (a chair, or anything else) does need a definition, and it *does* have a legal definition, as well as non legal ones. The premise for your whole convoluted theory is invalid, as well as the theory itself.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Then rebut it. You can't or you would have.

As for the meat of your comment, my point was precisely that theft and slavery and tangible property do not need legal definitions, which is where intellectual property differs.

Address that or whine in peace.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

“Ever heard of self-ownership?”

Yes. You perform several self owns every day here.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Oooh, another insult from another Jesse lackey who doesn't know how to rebut arguments.

[Vernon Depner]

Yes, as I said, the government granting copyright and patent privileges is a good idea if done intelligently. That they are a good idea does not make them property rights.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Is your labor considered property?

You seem to be demanding a very strict definition of property.

I would argue property is anything you can individually control, including labor. Nobody can force you to work. Well outside china.

[mtrueman]

"I would argue property is anything you can individually control"

Individual control over intellectual property? It doesn't exist. Hence the need for government to enforce copyright, patents and trademark laws. They require a vast bureaucracy of courts, legislators, lobbyists and regulators.

[Vernon Depner]

"Is your labor considered property?"

No. That makes no sense.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

It makes complete sense.

Of you find the cure for cancer but refuse to reveal it, you have the cure and nobody else does until someone else finds it. It is property.

Just like you have personal or property rights on your labor.

If you write a book nobody can force you to publish. You can allow others to read it if you want.

This whole premise that work that isnt touchable isnt property is what is ridiculous. Time, labor, effort go into its creation.

Your view leads to a parade of horrible as I've discussed in other posts.

[mtrueman]

"No. That makes no sense."

I think it would make sense to a trade unionist or labor activist. Police and firefighters are typically prohibited by law from withholding their labor, ie striking. Does that mean the employer, the state, is the owner of that labor? That would seem to be the case as the police and firefighters are forbidden to do as they please with 'their labor.'

[Stupid Government Tricks]

You just refuted yourself. You cannot control intellectual property except by keeping it secret. Therefore, by your own definition, ideas are not property.

I would argue property is anything you can individually control, including labor.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

Nope. And you can keep IP secret in many instances.

[mtrueman]

You can keep ideas secret. IP means copyright, patents and trademarks, all of which are a matter of public record, ie not secret.

Also, can you be said to own IP which is kept secret?

My next question to you is about the secret formulas used by KFC and Coca Cola etc. If they were patented, they would no longer be a secret, would they? And if they are not patented, they would not enjoy the protection of IP laws. Any thoughts?

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Trademarks and NIL are also considered IP.

STG once claimed he owned and ran a business believe in construction.

He spends 10 years getting clients, building a reputation, gaining market trust.

Can I just subvert his companies name, sponsor myself in Google with the same company name at the top of searches, undercut his business? Call his trusted customers and say we have a new number to steal his clients? Use AI to create his likeness and start committing fraud? His likeness isnt property.

I mean his business name isnt property. His reviews aren't property. His reputation isnt property.

So I should be fine doing that correct? IP is worthless.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Yah, right. Show me where I ever made such a claim. More fabrication, more lies. I guess you really are a true-blue died-in-the-wool Trumpie, following his example of saying whatever sounds good at the moment.

As for the rest of it, you are wrong. Trademark infringement is a simple matter of fraud. Always has been, always will be, and didn't need no stinking Constitution or legislation to make it so, unlike copyrights and patents.

Same for NIL. Someone pretending to be a celebrity is committing fraud.

If some celebrity makes ads for Ford and is seen driving a Chevy, who's the fraudster? If Chevrolet uses a picture of him in a Chevrolet, who's the fraudster?

You ought to practice honesty and thinking once in a while.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Some more scenarios since IP has zero worth and you demand no protections.

I find your SSN, name and DoB online. I can use that information anyway I want including signing up for credit. Its not property. I do what I want.

Company is paid to develop new US weapon. They complete the contract then sell the information to China. Its not property. They can do what they want.

I find your CC on the ground. I make sure not to use your physical card, but write down the cards information, going online and purchasing whatever I want. It isnt property, just information. I can do what I want.

When you assume taking someone's information has no cost you get to really bad situations like above. All because you have put zero worth on the product someone else produced.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

I knew your were dumb and duplicitous, but not this much.

I find your SSN, name and DoB online. I can use that information anyway I want including signing up for credit. Its not property. I do what I want.

Fraud, bud, never heard of that? Oh, that's right, Trump lies all the time, so it's all good to go.

Company is paid to develop new US weapon. They complete the contract then sell the information to China. Its not property. They can do what they want.

Contracts, bud, never heard of them? Oh, that's right, Trump breaks contracts and his word all the time, so it's all good to go.

I find your CC on the ground. I make sure not to use your physical card, but write down the cards information, going online and purchasing whatever I want. It isnt property, just information. I can do what I want.

Theft, bud, never heard of that either? Oh, that's right, Trump extorts shares and steals illegal export taxes all the time, so it's all good to go.

When you assume taking someone's information has no cost you get to really bad situations like above. All because you have put zero worth on the product someone else produced.

Gadzooks that's some of the lamest confusion of real property with ideas I have ever seen. Your TDS is really getting worse.

I just copied and quoted your entire comment. Gonna sue me for copyright infringement?

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

FFS, give it up. Your globalist dreams are ultimately all Neo Marxist bullshit.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

FFS, make an argument, rebut something. Insults about nonsense are just nonsense and proof you have no rebuttal.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

Jesse already did. I’m just tired of your bullshit.

[mtrueman]

The crimes of fraud and theft were well established in common law centuries before copyrights and patents entered the picture.

What is NIL, by the way?

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

And one final simple question.

If information has zero value, then why do you demand unfettered access to it?

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Is that comment supposed to make sense? When did I ever say information has zero value? When did anyone say that?

Smart people who know the value of information keep it secret (like investing in the stock market themselves instead of pretending they can make clients rich). Or they write books which people buy because they like the author's writing. Or they sell tickets to concerts to people who like their music. Or they consult for money.

Your dumbness is so bad you could fill the casting call in that sequel, Dumb, Dumber, and Dumbest.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

He’s smarter than you are.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Another non-rebuttal. Assumes facts not in evidence.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

Your lack of logic relative to Jesse, and most of us here, is the evidence. Your arguments are weak and spurious. And once again, Jesse already covered it. Or would you prefer we all straighten you out at length?

It’s not like you ever learn anything.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

You too, another idiot. Read what I wrote.

The immorality of copyrights and patents is also one of the standard libertarian themes.

Stop jumping to conclusions. It makes you look as stupid as Jesse and Chinny chin chin.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

You also the stated the immortality of them. I just think there is a debate in libertarian circles over them and Autumn is more then reasonable to hold them in a higher regard then you without sacrificing some hard libertarian ideal for some anti-ICE/TDS purpose.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Yes, as one of. Makes a difference, and this is supposed to be a libertarian rag.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

No it doesn't. One of the standard libertarian themes is the right to self defense or freedom of choice while excepting the responsibility for said choice. Patent law is not a standard theme and is debated between different schools of thought within libertarianism as to its validity and scope.

Another standard theme is libertarians will always disagree on finer points like patent law.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

"One of" means not the only one.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

Really? Maybe you can illuminate us about water is wet next.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

I understand what one of means. I'm saying it isn't "one of" a standard libertarian themes; that it is debatable among libertarians. And that a libertarian can make an argument in favor of patent/copyright laws without sacrificing their principles.

[mad.casual]

A good point about how technology and internet law, like the DMCA, is locking us into a less free mentality.

It's also, once again a demonstration of the utter soullessness (to borrow a phrase from "our" Rick James) hip swiveling of modern entertainment.

When Kenny Loggins' "Danger Zone" is part of the greatest Air Force propaganda machine of the last century he cashes the checks complete with Rodney Dangerfield-style "I'm alright." hip swiveling. Music is, like a vibe, man. When it's used by the wrong guy for a meme, "That's mine and you can't have it!" like a 4 yr. old.

Again, my watershed moment was when half of the "Death by Rock'n Roll" bands, cancelled tours and called off concerts because they were afraid grandma might catch cold.

I'm not stealing anything that isn't fraudulent propaganda to begin with.

[Rick James]

Again, my watershed moment was when half of the "Death by Rock'n Roll" bands, cancelled tours and called off concerts because they were afraid grandma might catch cold.

To be fair, those concerts were essentially nursing homes.

[mtrueman]

"Our country's original copyright laws excluded songs from copyright privilege on the grounds that originality could not proven."

The article is about the unauthorized use of recordings of songs. Recordings of which the accuracy of the the originality can be proven. Recording studios keep written records of the number of takes required to capture the song, the instruments used, who plays them, etc. The recording of a song and the song itself are two different beasts. Don't confuse the map from the territory.

[SQRLSY]

"Don't confuse the map from the territory."

Dear Orange Caligula-Shitler owns maps of Greenland AND greedland, so BEWARE! Achtung, Baby!!!

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/theyre-trying-to-deflect-him-trump-orders-special-forces-to-draw-up-greenland-invasion-plan-what-we-know/articleshow/126460765.cms

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

Proving originality in songwriting has become much easier in the digital age.

[Vernon Depner]

Actually it's become much more difficult. It is now very easy to find previous songs that include elements found in "new" ones. There's even a genre of YouTube videos that juxtapose two songs that are essentially the same.

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

This is a huge problem that we need to deal with!

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

When you are a TDS-addled slimy pile of lying shit like the author, it's huge when Trump doesn't return a library book on time.

[Spiritus Mundi]

Remember when Reeeason use to have a liberatrian stance on copyright laws?

Its great potential to educate and enrich the public can be fulfilled only if the greatest number of voices are given an opportunity to speak and be heard. And, quite often, saying what needs to be said requires that speakers make unlicensed use of someone else's copyrighted work. This is why Congress provided for the limited right of anyone to make unlicensed "fair use" of others' copyrighted material (see section 107 of the Copyright Act).

.

But Trump! and open borders are the only principles Reeeason esposes these days.

[Rick James]

Who's doing the talking? Is it a Citizen Journalist or a conservative youtuber?

[Cyrano]

Yes, I remember.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Autumn, you could work for PBS. Too bad they cant survive without federal funds.

https://x.com/_ellepurnell/status/2009721825601662978

Elle Reynolds Purnell
@_ellepurnell
Hmm --
@PBS
claims the ICE agent in Minneapolis appears to have been "knocked backward but not hit" by Good's vehicle, without explaining how exactly a person can be knocked backward by a car without also being hit.
Picture

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

Magic force field?

[mad.casual]

From the department of tiger-repelling rocks:

Step 1. Rebrand deer whistles as ICE whistles.
Step 2. Profit!

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

Or deflector shields. Maybe she should just reversed the polarity of the neutron flow.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

The mayor is claiming the injury is similar to what you get if you use your hip to close a fridge door, which is sort of like claiming her aim wasn't very good.

[Rick James]

You see this problem is yours. You just lack the intellectual capacity to understand nuance.

[ML (now paying)]

So much nuance. All of these intersecting nexuses that only they can divine, and somehow those divinations always come up such that they are allowed to get away with whatever they want and their enemies are allowed to do less than nothing.

[SQRLSY]

"Without any real consequences for copyright infringements, the Department of Homeland Security doesn't have much incentive to follow the law."

Well, they don't follow court odors or laws against shooting and killing women who are SLOWLY driving away (per half of the conflicting goon-odors "get out of the car" v/s "get out of here"), then if they need SNOT follow standing odors SNOT to cummit MURDER, then HOW can we expect them to follow copyright odors?

And they SURE ASS HELL have NO shining leaderShit examples to follow, at the very bottomless Hell of a "top"!!!

Hang Mike Pence, I say! (If'n we can SNOT actually do that, maybe we can jump in front of his slowly-moving car, accuse him of being a domestic terrorist and trying to run us over, and then shoot him dead.)

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

Walz +6

[SQRLSY]

DLAM has becum undone! Cuntaminated and DeLaminated!!! (Someone should set up a Go-Fund-Me web page to fund the RE-lamination of the DeLaminated DLAM!!!)

[Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)]

Sad. No effort.

[SQRLSY]

Sad. No brains, data, creativity, humor, or benevolence.

[ML (now paying)]

About time for you to wave your "Tim" flag.

[SQRLSY]

Ask, and ye shall receive wisdom! Knock, and the door shall be opened to Your PervFected knockers!

Do you recall the awesome enchanter named “Tim”, in “Monty Python and the Search for the Holy Grail”? The one who could “summon fire without flint or tinder”? Well, you remind me of Tim… You are an enchanter who can summon persuasion without facts or logic!

So I discussed your awesome talents with some dear personal friends on the Reason staff… Accordingly…

Reason staff has asked me to convey the following message to you:

Hi Fantastically Talented Author:

Obviously, you are a silver-tongued orator, and you also know how to translate your spectacular talents to the written word! We at Reason have need for writers like you, who have near-magical persuasive powers, without having to write at great, tedious length, or resorting to boring facts and citations.

At Reason, we pay above-market-band salaries to permanent staff, or above-market-band per-word-based fees to freelancers, at your choice. To both permanent staff, and to free-lancers, we provide excellent health, dental, and vision benefits. We also provide FREE unlimited access to nubile young groupies, although we do firmly stipulate that persuasion, not coercion, MUST be applied when taking advantage of said nubile young groupies.

Please send your resume, and another sample of your writings, along with your salary or fee demands, to [e-mail] .

Thank PervFected You! -Reason Staff

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

More lies.

[SQRLSY]

More evil and stupid Penguin Poop!

(I'm sorry to 'fess up that I cun't tell You if shit is more stupid or more evil. Glad to say, though, at least I cun't smell You! The odor won't travel over the internets, at least.)

[rbike]

I think this is what the Nazis did too.

[SQRLSY]

We're seeing a slut-load of sleazy NAZI-like things cumming out of the Junta of Dear Orange Shitler lately! Shit's where we're headed towards right now. Greenland and greedland, here we cum!!!

Demon-Craps did shit first and worst, so twatever Orange Shitler-Caligula does is udderly cummendable!!! Today, Venezuela... Tomorrow, Canada, Greenland, Panama, Cuba, Mexico, Columbia, and the Gaza Strip! The day after tomorrow, the entire Earth-world!!! After a few weeks after that... The Smirky-Hurky-Jerky-Murky-Way Galaxy, and then... To Infinity and Beyond!!! Illegal sub-beings EVERYWHERE will be brought to heel, and taught to stay in their places, By Government Almighty of the RIGHT kind!!!

[Overt]

Lord oh mighty. I guess there is nothing going on in the world that has to do with liberty. We might have to write an article about it on the weekend.

[SQRLSY]

OK, then HERE is a SHORT article about freedom, and lack of the same:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/michaelabramwell/reactions-trumps-tweet-about-law-violation
"He who saves his Country does not violate any Law." Said Dear Orange DicKKKTator-Caligula.
"Wants to be a dictator. If you don't see it it means you don't want to," former Trump White House Communications Director Anthony Scaramucci said.

Mussolini: “Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”
Shitler: “The good of the state stands above the law.”
Napoleon: “I am the revolution.”
Francisco Franco: “I am responsible only to God and to history.”

Shitler: “The good of the state stands above the LAW.” For emphasis... Of all of the quotes, this one most clearly shows that Shitler and Orange Shitler are Bros... Piss in a pod, who want to piss on us all, and turn us all into Pod People!

[Rick James]

You know what I learned from this post? Buzzfeed is still a website.

[ML (now paying)]

And Shillsy still goes there...
And his 'current news' article is a year old...
And it's hysterics about mean tweeting, rather than revolutions...
And the writer is an idiot...
And should probably have her stuff run past a lawyer before she gets to post it, if Buzzfeed doesn't want to get Gawker'd...

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

PISS! Haha I'm so funny!

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Do as I say not as I do...

These same cunts would be happy to arrest a college student during the war on Napster.

[Truthteller1]

I don't really care Margaret.

[SQRLSY]

You must be pretty bored and USELESS to make a post like that, butt thanks for telling the truth!!! I, for one, do SNOT care for YOUR useless and bored truth! Twat good am I supposed to accumplish with Your Pervfectly bored and useless truth? WHY to You PervFectly cum here to "share" this Deep Truth?

[ML (now paying)]

I don't really care Margaret Melvin.

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

BUTT! SNOT! Haha I'm so funny!

[SQRLSY]

Who appointed YOU to be God of the Penguins, Ape-Dog-Shit? Penguins might steal rocks from each other's nests from time to time, butt they do SNOT act as badly ass YOU and Your Fellow Yipping, Howling, Growling, and Threatening-to-bite dog-piles! Snot to mention being PROUD of being ignorant!
Ignorant, Yipping, Howling, Growling, and Threatening-to-bite Bitches...
Be driving civilized life into the ditches!!!

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

Autumn? Stuff your TDS up your ass; your head has been there for quite a while and would like some company.

[Variant]

Do all the hand-wavy stuff you like, but we're going to enforce our immigration laws.

[SQRLSY]

Are you human, residing in the western hemisphere? If so, please be advised that humans are an invasive species in the entire western hemisphere, and more! If'n Ye are SNOT a PervFected, mind-infected hypocrite, please self-deport to Africa pronto!

[Rick James]

Not while listening to "I Heard it thru the Grapevine"!

[Minadin]

So are we for our current system of copyright laws now?

The one where a corporation like Disney, for instance, can derive works from IP that's in the public domain, and then copyright that for 100 years or so?

When it was designed, I believe copyright lasted for 7 years total. Now it's been stretched beyond all recognition of the original intent.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

The original copyrights were for 14 years, I believe, with one possible extension of 14 years, but that needed to be applied for and was not automatic.

The 7 years may have been for patents, I don't remember the actual length other than being shorter than copyrights.

[SQRLSY]

Patents? Stuck at 17 years for a long time now, ass I recall...

(See AI comments, details, a few posts below.)

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Alot of the examples are more recent then the 1920s Steamboat Willie Disney patent. MGMT and BRMC are two bands I've seen and were probably released in the last 15 years. I'm against 100 year patents/copyright (15 years+/- 5 seems about right), but shouldn't the federal government who enforces these laws against everyone else also abide by them? That to me is the real issue here - government once against not abiding by the laws they enforce on the public at large.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Edit: "once against" should read "once again".

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Patents are 7 years requiring disclosure.

Copyrights can definitely be reformed.

[Minadin]

Every time they've updated copyright law, they have increased the length.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Why i said reformed and not colluded with.

[SQRLSY]

Learn to use AI, Ignorant One!!! Perplexity AI says...

Most modern U.S. patents last about 15–20 years, depending on the type.[1][2][3]

## Standard patent terms

- **Utility patents** (the common “invention” patents on processes, machines, compositions, etc.) generally last 20 years from the filing date of the first non‑provisional application, assuming required maintenance fees are paid.[4][5][2][3][1]
- **Design patents** (covering the ornamental look of a product) last 15 years from the date of grant for applications filed on or after May 13, 2015; older ones have a 14‑year term.[6][5][7][2][3]
- **Plant patents** (for new asexually reproduced plant varieties) last 20 years from the filing date of the application.[8][2][9][3]

## Important nuances

- Very old utility patents (filed before June 8, 1995) can be governed by an older rule: 17 years from grant or 20 years from filing, whichever is longer.[2]
- Utility and plant patents require periodic maintenance fees to stay in force; if those are not paid, the patent can expire earlier than its full term.[5][3][2]
- In some fields (notably pharma and biotech), limited term extensions are possible to compensate for regulatory delays (e.g., FDA review), though those extensions are capped and subject to strict conditions.[3][5][1]

[1](https://www.goldsteinpatentlaw.com/how-long-is-us-patent-good-for/)
[2](https://www.justia.com/intellectual-property/patents/duration-of-patent-protection/)

etc...

[Stupid Government Tricks]

HEY JESSE:

I've posted several rebuttals to you. The oldest was "1 hour ago". You haven't responded to a single one, just posted new comments which I rebutted.

Your reluctance to rebut my rebuttals implies strongly that you know you can't refute me and won't even try for fear of embarrassing yourself.

Tell me you can't rebut me without actually rebutting me.

[ML (now paying)]

Maybe he's in the bathroom or has gone to church, hotshot. If there's no response by this time tomorrow, then you can do your victory lap.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Nope, try again. He continued writing new comments instead of rebutting mine. He's afraid to rebut things.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

No one here is frightened of you.

No one.

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

Lol.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

A whole hour!

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Yes, a whole hour of posting new arguments which I rebutted, while not answering any of my rebuttals.

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

Your rebuttals are weak and illogical. You’re irrational about a number of subjects. Especially tariffs.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Ive already made clear I only respond yo you twice a day because your infantile arguments with no thought or construction are on par with jeff and sarc.

If I want to engage with retarded bumper sticker statements I can go anywhere.

Sorry youre so desperate for my attention. Maybe get a hobby dumdum.

Whats hilarious to me is jeff and sarc make the same demands for my attention. Youre not worth my attention.

Even here your logical construction is lacking. Your entire comment is what rerards say.

When you choose to make an intelligent comment I'll respond more than my 2 response limit for you. But I have yet to see you make one.

You have 36 minutes to respond or it is proof im right!!!! What a fucking retarded comment.

[JesseAz (RIP CK)]

Well it's been over 30 minutes. By your own rules of debate you lost STG.

Now I believe temporal response demands dont make an argument. Instead logical inference and construction do.

Guess by both our rule sets you lose.

[I, Woodchipper]

lol tackling the big stuff today eh?

[Longtobefree]

Everything anti-Trump is big stuff.

Huge really. Actually very huge.

[GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND]

THE WALLS ARE CLOSING IN!

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

Well, the walls are closing in on Walz anyway.

[I, Woodchipper]

Something in my gut tells me that tomorrow is going to be a batshit crazy day for news.

[Rick James]

Although this "ask for forgiveness, not permission" approach risks lawsuits, the Trump administration—under a notoriously litigious president—seems to be willing to roll the dice. So far it's working.

Remember when someone else got struck for what they considered 'fair use' and reason screeched "censorships!!!11!!"? I do.

[ML (now paying)]

Reason Magazine comes out in favor of copyrights. Amazing how far a "libertarian" magazine will go in order to orangemanbad. Next up, libertarians for gun control.

Also, where was all this opprobrium when the Biden administration was doing this? It's almost like Reason and our resident DNC-bots are hypocrites or something.

[SQRLSY]

Orange Man bad?!? He BAD, all right! He SOOO BAD, He be GOOD! He be GREAT! He Make America Great Again!

We KNOW He can Make America Great Again, because, as a bad-ass businessman, He Made Himself and His Family Great Again! He Pussy Grabber in Chief!

See The Atlantic article https://feedreader.com/observe/theatlantic.com/politics%252Farchive%252F2016%252F10%252Fdonald-trump-scandals%252F474726%252F%253Futm_source%253Dfeed/+view
“The Many Scandals of Donald Trump: A Cheat Sheet” or this one…

https://reason.com/2019/09/02/republicans-choose-trumpism-over-property-rights-and-the-rule-of-law/

He pussy-grab His creditors in 6 bankruptcies, His illegal sub-human workers ripped off of pay on His building projects, and His “students” in His fake Get-Rich-like-Me realty schools, and so on. So, He has a GREAT record of ripping others off! So SURELY He can rip off other nations, other ethnic groups, etc., in trade wars and border wars, for the benefit of ALL of us!!!

All Hail to THE Pussy Grabber in Chief!!!

Most of all, HAIL the Chief, for having revoked karma! What comes around, will no longer go around!!! The Donald has figured out that all of the un-Americans are SOOO stupid, that we can pussy-grab them all day, every day, and they will NEVER think of pussy-grabbing us right back!

Orange Man Bad-Ass Pussy-Grabber all right!

We CAN grab all the pussy, all the time, and NONE will be smart enough to EVER grab our pussies right back!

These voters simply cannot or will not recognize the central illusion of politics… You can pussy-grab all of the people some of the time, and you can pussy-grab some of the people all of the time, but you cannot pussy-grab all of the people all of the time! Sooner or later, karma catches up, and the others will pussy-grab you right back!

[Incunabulum]

This one is more embarrassing than normal Autumn.

Libertarians for copyright enforcement?

[SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad]

I highly doubt she possesses such qualities as self respect, or a capacity for shame.

[Incunabulum]

Autumn, you do know how the DCMA works, right? Anyone can file a complaint and the site has to act on it - it doesn't have to be the copyright owner and event eh copyright owner doesn't have to show proof of violation.

It's been famously abused across YouTube for decades.

This stuff getting DCMAd - not copyright struck - means literally nothing on its own.

[TJJ2000]

So in other words; You have nothing but TDS and an army of useful-idiots.

[Kemuel]

There is no natural right to what we consider intellectual property. These laws exist to stimulate creativity and research, and they do so to excess. There is actually a really good book about copyright by Lawrence Lessig named Free Culture in which he advocates for more common-sense copyright law. I don’t think Danger Zone, for example, really needs protection at this point.