Trump's Plan for 30 Million Barrels of Venezuelan Oil Doesn't Add Up
The plan is both light on specifics and full of contradictions.
Since deposing Nicolás Maduro and pledging to "run" his country, President Donald Trump has made it clear the U.S. will take a major role in Venezuela's oil production. Many of the details remain murky, but much of what has been revealed so far doesn't pass the smell test.
"I am pleased to announce that the Interim Authorities in Venezuela will be turning over between 30 and 50 MILLION Barrels of High Quality, Sanctioned Oil, to the United States of America," Trump posted on Truth Social. "It will be taken by storage ships, and brought directly to unloading docks in the United States." The oil, he added, "will be sold at its Market Price, and that money will be controlled by me, as President of the United States of America, to ensure it is used to benefit the people of Venezuela and the United States."
Secretary of State Marco Rubio later told reporters the oil shipment was part of the "stabilization of the country."
As recently as November, Venezuela produced fewer than 1 million barrels of oil per day. (By comparison, last year the U.S. produced more than 13 million barrels per day.) On Wednesday, U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) Secretary Chris Wright said the Venezuelan oil in question was "backed-up" and in storage.
"A senior administration official, speaking under condition of anonymity, told CNN that the oil has already been produced and put in barrels," the outlet reported. "The majority of it is currently on boats and will now go to US facilities in the Gulf to be refined."
But as Catherine Rampell of The Bulwark noted on X, "oil hasn't been shipped in actual barrels in over a century." Indeed, barrel is a unit of measurement—equal to 42 gallons—not an actual description of the means of transportation; oil is now transported on tanker ships that hold tens of millions of gallons.
It's not clear what CNN's anonymous "senior administration official" meant, but it's certainly not true that 50 million individual barrels of oil are sitting in storage or on ships.
In fact, the whole plan is light on specifics. "Trump administration officials on Wednesday outlined a sweeping albeit bare-bones plan to effectively assume control of selling oil from Venezuela indefinitely," Rebecca F. Elliott and Robert Jimison reported at The New York Times. "Venezuela's state oil company released a statement Wednesday afternoon confirming that negotiations were underway with the U.S. government, but stopped short of saying there was a deal in place."
"All proceeds from the sale of Venezuelan crude oil and oil products will first settle in U.S. controlled accounts at globally recognized banks to guarantee the legitimacy and integrity of the ultimate distribution of proceeds," according to a DOE fact sheet. "These funds will be disbursed for the benefit of the American people and the Venezuelan people at the discretion of the U.S. government."
"We're going to sell that crude, we're going to put it in accounts, and we're going to distribute [those] funds to the interim authorities in Venezuela and align that with incentives to improve their behavior," Wright told CNN's Jake Tapper.
"The Trump administration plans to put money raised from seizure of Venezuelan oil into bank accounts outside the U.S. Treasury," PBS' Lisa Desjardins posted on X. "Sources said they understood these as similar or decidedly 'off-shore' accounts." (Desjardins later added, citing "a helpful Republican Senator," that by keeping the revenue in external bank accounts and not the Treasury, "the US is showing it does not own the proceeds from the oil it is seizing, but still wants to control it.")
"It was unclear what legal authority the administration would rely on to commandeer the oil money to use as it sees fit, nor was it apparent what exactly had been agreed," the Times' Elliott and Jimison added. "The Constitution gives Congress control over government expenditures, barring any money from being spent except as appropriated by legislation."
Days ago, Trump sent troops into another country to oust its leader. Now, he's claiming the authority to sell that country's resources and distribute the proceeds however he pleases, and in the meantime, he may keep the funds offshore, away from the prying eyes of oversight.
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Plundering a country after/during a war of aggression is illegal. The president acquiring funds and spending it without Congressional approval is illegal.
Who is going to punish Trump for doing illegal things, Molly? You? Don't make me laugh! For that matter, who is going to punish generations of Democratic administrations for systematically destroying the Constitutional limitations on government authority that might have protected us against a strong-man President doing whatever he likes? For every claim you can make of illegality here, Trump can cite a dozen laws and precedents passed by Democrat Congresses, signed by Democrat Presidents and upheld by the Democrat-appointed social engineers on the Supreme Court that justify his actions. When you cry, "But that was intended to help people!" you will not be forgiven.
Demon-Craps did shit first and worst, so twatever Orange Shitler-Caligula does is udderly cummendable!!! Today, Venezuela... Tomorrow, Canada, Greenland, Panama, Cuba, Mexico, Columbia, and the Gaza Strip! The day after tomorrow, the entire Earth-world!!! After a few weeks after that... The Smirky-Hurky-Jerky-Murky-Way Galaxy, and then... To Infinity and Beyond!!! Illegal sub-beings EVERYWHERE will be brought to heel, and taught to stay in their places, By Government Almighty of the RIGHT kind!!!
Walz +6
This is restitution ordered through the court systems, both in the US and internationally for Chavez and Maduro nationalizing the oil industry.
I think that's right. But as usual Nicastro makes an ass of himself by seizing on the meaning of the word barrel quoting Reason pals at The Bulwark.
LMFAO your only redeeming quality is how stupid your posts are making people laugh.
Uh, some/most/all of the proceeds from the sale of this oil will be spent for the benefit of the Venezuelan people, the stipulation I understand the new Venezuelan leader agreed to was to spend the oil money in the U.S. on goods/food/etc made in the U.S.
Unsurprising. Since Trump can’t get substantive budget cuts through Congress, the only alternative to cutting the deficit is to grow the other side of the balance sheet.
"The oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years. Now, there are a lot of claims on that money, but ... We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon."
- Paul Wolfowitz
Trump's not even creative with his bullshit.
To be fair, Notion, he doesn't NEED to be creative. No one is in any position to stop him no matter what he says or does at this point.
Yeah we are basically at Empire stage at this point. The only question is whether Trump will be a "good Emperor" or "bad Emperor".
CNN, The Bulwark, The New York Times and PBS.
Venezuela wouldn't have one drop of oil if we hadn't built the means of its extraction for them.
Very true.
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Those wells should all be returned to their rightful owners. Although we should be taking a cut for our efforts.
"oil hasn't been shipped in actual barrels in over a century."
Quibbling over details. What matters is that the Prez now has a YOOOGE personal income and he can decide who is worthy of kissing his ring to get some of it.
Perhaps domestic oil producers who are harmed by new local supply. Hahaha. Naah.
Perhaps one of the politically reliable narcoterrorists from that region who've thought up a new version of Iran-Contra for the 21st century. THAT sounds like a deal that could benefit la Familia Nostra as well.
He did just pardon/commute the 45yr sentence of a nearby country's leader involved in 'narco trafficking' to the US. Sounds like somebody owes the Don a debt and has 'amigos' in the right places and speaks the local language.
Because I know when I want to justify military force and murder-drone people for trafficking drugs in foreign countries to protect America; I pardon those high ranking govt officials convicted of trafficking drugs to America. It's just common sense.
Who do you think gave them the intel to take it the narco boats and to capture Maduro?
Goddamn, you’re a stupid Windy City unemployed barista.
Oh, and Walz +6 you fucking retard.
Cool story bro lol
"Who do you think gave them the intel to take it the narco boats and to capture Maduro?" -- SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad
What is the source of this assertion?
Perhaps restock the strategic crude oil reserves that the previous administration depleted?
He said he's selling it.
The grades of crude in question may not be compatible with the strategic reserve’s requirements.
Therefore Trump has *no choice* but to sell the crude oil himself and pocket the profits. It's for the national interest!
"It was unclear what legal authority the administration would rely on to commandeer the oil money to use as it sees fit, nor was it apparent what exactly had been agreed," the Times' Elliott and Jimison added. "The Constitution gives Congress control over government expenditures, barring any money from being spent except as appropriated by legislation."
"Days ago, Trump sent troops into another country to oust its leader. Now, he's claiming the authority to sell that country's resources and distribute the proceeds however he pleases, and in the meantime, he may keep the funds offshore, away from the prying eyes of oversight."
It's also unclear how the money would find it's way into the US Treasury where congress could spend it on whatever the fuck they want with the prying eyes of oversight. I admit I have no idea how this will work out and it is to say the least a novel strategy. But the reality is that Venezuela is saddled with massive international debt, a thoroughly corrupt government, crumbling commercial infrastructure and an impoverished population. This creates an opportunity for Venezuela to market their resources outside of the current sanctions regime. I see potential for huge benefits to the Venezuelan people. But we shall see.
Maybe they can call the program to bypass the sanctions and bring relief to the impoverished country, Food for Oil.
"The Constitution gives Congress control over government expenditures, barring any money from being spent except as appropriated by legislation."
I'm pretty sure the Obama administration argued that DACA and DAPA program funds couldn't be cut by Congress since the President funded those programs with the fees collected from applicants. I believe the argument was that since the money was collected as fees for a service, it wasn't Congress's money to control...
Is cutting the debt spending?
Oh, huh.
So, apparently, Russia (and Iran and Venezuela) operates a shadow fleet of oil tankers to evade global sanctions (to the tune of 20% of the market) and it's traditionally been hands off and/or "Don't ask, don't tell."... until one of them tried to run the blockade around Venezuela... and you'll never guess what happened next.
Guess the whole idea of scrapping The Jones Act and "taking a more 'European' stance" on maritime trade may've been a little premature.
Oopsie!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmNhfW3pG-8
Trump's Plan for 30 Million Barrels of Venezuelan Oil Doesn't Add Up
That's because the Big Bad Beautiful Bunch of Barrels adds up to 30 Billion Barrels
C'mon. Trump deserves the benefit of the doubt. The endless, endless benefit of the doubt. Sure his plan is stupid and contradictory. But just GIVE HIM A CHANCE!
Walz +8
But it’s always good to get feedback from a Neo Marxist sociopath sophist sea lion with pedophilic predilections , and whose blood type is cookie dough.
Neo Marxist sociopath sophist sea lion with pedophilic predilections
Oh is that all. I also murder kittens and kick puppies.
/sarc for those who need it