Trump Will Let Nvidia Sell Chips to China—but the Feds Will Get 25 Percent of the Profits
Why make the government a middleman in the chip war?
On Monday, President Donald Trump announced in a Truth Social post that he had "informed President Xi, of China, that the United States will allow NVIDIA to ship its H200 products to approved customers in China, and other Countries."
Under the terms of this deal, Nvidia will pay the U.S. government 25 percent of profits from the sale of H200 chips, and any potential customers will be "vetted by the Department of Commerce," according to CNBC. The president added that he'll apply the same approach to Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), Intel, and "other GREAT American Companies."
The announcement is a reversal of the Trump administration's previous stance on exporting chips to China, including a ban on the sale of Nvidia's A100, H100, and RTX 5090 graphics processing units (GPUs). The H200 is an upgraded version of Nvidia's H100 chip and is nearly six times more powerful than the older H20. The deal does not include Nvidia's next-generation Rubin superchip or its advanced Blackwell GPUs.
Despite being previous-generation products with less power than the Blackwell B30A and B300 chips, the H200 and H100 are still expected to be highly valuable for advanced computing and AI through 2026. Trump has repeatedly sought to use export controls to limit China's AI growth and spur American dominance in the sector.
In August, the Trump administration attempted a similar move, granting export licenses to Nvidia and AMD in exchange for 15 percent of the revenue generated by the sales. In response to those measures, the Chinese government "banned the country's biggest technology companies from buying Nvidia's artificial intelligence chips," per the Financial Times, choosing instead to strive for self-sufficiency.
While Trump has framed the deal as beneficial for both sides, a Tuesday Financial Times report casts doubt on his claim that "President Xi responded positively" to the announcement. According to the Financial Times, "Beijing"—already well-versed in navigating export controls—"is set to limit access to Nvidia's advanced H200 chips despite Donald Trump's decision to allow the export of the technology to China."
The tit-for-tat protectionist measures used by the U.S. and China fly in the face of economic reality. China has ramped up domestic production of advanced computing chips, with companies such as Huawei, Alibaba, and Baidu developing products to challenge Nvidia's market dominance.
However, an October study by the Institute for Progress, an innovation policy think tank, projects a "strong advantage" for the U.S. in semiconductor manufacturing through 2026 and 2027. With demand for advanced chips outpacing current supply, America's advantage lies in products like Nvidia's H200, Blackwell B300, and unreleased Rubin superchips, which have no substitute in the Chinese market.
Cutting China off from Nvidia's most advanced AI GPUs would incentivize production of domestic substitutes. Instead of Chinese firms spending their capital on products from Nvidia, AMD, or allied companies such as the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company, they'd likely invest in China's chip manufacturers. As previously covered by Reason, export-driven growth has been a cornerstone of the U.S. semiconductor industry's success, even as American manufacturing capacity has fallen.
The federal government taking a 25 percent cut of Nvidia's sales reeks of crony capitalism and extends the use of failed tactics, like export controls, to promote sector growth. It could also be unconstitutional. Conditioning foreign sales of advanced chips on a 25 percent profit-sharing agreement would seem to contradict the Export Clause, which plainly states that "No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State."
Unfortunately, the Trump administration has made a habit of determining when and with whom private firms can conduct business. While the president claims this policy will "support American Jobs, strengthen U.S. Manufacturing, and benefit American Taxpayers," it's more likely that this method of picking winners and losers will create a cascading effect of negative consequences beyond this administration.
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>>Why make the government a middleman in the chip war?
so they can insert the secret spy tech. read some Clancy
The Five Families are so jealous
Nice chip export business you got here. Sure would be shame if something was to happen to it.
'Trump Will Let Nvidia Sell Chips to China—but the Feds Will Get 25 Percent of the Profits--Why make the government a middleman in the chip war?'
To fund the US military in the upcoming Great Pacific War?
Sleepy Joe wouldn't have got anywhere near a 25% cut. Trump is much better at crony capitalism. This is what shrewd deal making prowess can achieve.
Because revenue.
So is this socialism, or fascism? I'm starting to get my collectivist ideologies mixed up.
I think this is fascialism.
it's Greek
We are getting screwed Greek style.
how are you getting screwed?
I'm just joking.
The sarc escape word.
That would be better than a joke that falls so flat you have explain it was a joke so, OK, I'll go with that.
Ha.
In all seriousness though - I don't think it is either socialism or fascism. I think it is just mob-style governance. The Nvidia payment to the government is protection money. So long as the money keeps flowing, Nvidia will get favorable treatment, tariff exemptions, things like that. I would not be at all surprised that in the near future, Nvidia will propose some M&A transaction, maybe they will propose to buy Intel or something, and when normally that transaction would face intense regulator scrutiny, instead *totally unexpectedly* this merger sails through the regulatory process. Because capitalism and free markets! It has nothing to do with the "beeeelions and beeeelions of dollars" that Nvidia provided to the government! Because JesseBot will tell us that if/when it happens!
Jensen has been a Trump crony since forever. They hang out. So probably not.
In all seriousness though - I don't think it is either socialism or fascism. I think it is just mob-style governance.
That's a good observation.
Describing the US Goverment as 'the government' and 'a middleman' under the title 'Nvidia Sell Chips To China' is gob-smackingly disconnected from anything even remotely libertarian or individual liberty.
Even for 'Nvidia Sell Chips to Germany' or 'Nvidia Sell Chips to Russia' or 'Nvidia Sell Chips to Iraq', it's fairly obvious that you're specifically referring to the State, by name, and not the people or the market of the State.
Even then, 'Nvidia Sell Chips to Harvard' carries all the same contextual nuance of "MUH PRIVUT ORGANIZASHUN!"
Individual business owners of Chinese descent and even foreign nationals don't have a problem getting access to the chips. What is being prevented is Chinese-State-sponsored initiatives purchasing massive stockpiles of chips to undermine Americans' liberties their own citizens' expense.
"Trump extorts 25% of NVIDIA's profits on chip sales to China on behalf of the US government"
Happy now?
more of a contingency fee.
The vig.
There are a dozen sources beyond the FT that China has now:
1) met with the Chinese companies that might be buyers of Nvidia chips
2)is determining the limits of what those companies might want v what they 'need' and
3) will be issuing rules re what they will be allowed to import from the US.
4) it won't be nothing but it will be closer to nothing than something.
Reading Asia source news is almost like a different planet than US source news.
This is an illegal tax. Impeach Trump.
It’s a fee.
It is extortion.
So it’s not a tax after all?
Freedom means asking Trump for permission and doing whatever Trump commands.
The Leftist Democrats have been calling Trump a NAZI or a reincarnation of Hitler, a Putin Puppet for5 over a decade. For the vast majority of all their bogus claims they have been lying and inventing something out of nothing. They claim that he is a fascist because they accuse him of being a racist. They expose their ignorance along with most of the world, unaware that fascism as viewed by it's originator is more about economics than ethnics.
Mussolini defined fascism as "corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power" which sounds very close to this Nvidia deal.
Fascism also opposes individualism and sees the State as absolute. This sound more like the leftist Democrats that the MAGA/MAHA or America First crowd.
Fascism places the the nation above all and uses perceived external threats as a cudgel. This does sound like MAGA.
The state also promotes militarism as a way to demonstrate national greatness which sounds like the establishment members of both major parties.
Does Trump have some fascist beliefs, yes, however there is a follow up question that the leftist democrats and the establishment members of both major parties, also have as many fascist beliefs that Trump does. This is not an indictment of any particular side or faction, but rather an indictment of the entire mess.
Does Trump have some fascist beliefs, yes, however there is a follow up question that the leftist democrats and the establishment members of both major parties, also have as many fascist beliefs that Trump does.
Sounds like a great argument for not supporting either team.
That is the dumbest comparison that I have seen. Trump is a fascist. End of story. Anyone who supports him is a fascist. Anyone who defends him is a fascist.
The Orange Menace has struck again.
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The story mixes up what the 25% applies to. It's worse than the headline says. It's 25% of the SALES price, not 25% of the PROFITS.
Why make the government a middleman in the chip war?
I don't know? Probably for the same reason............
Why make the government a middleman on domestic trade/taxes?