Massachusetts Church's 'ICE Was Here' Nativity Scene Is Protected Speech, Even if ICE Doesn't Like It
Rev. Stephen Josoma of St. Susanna Parish defended the message against the Trump administration's immigration enforcement.
A Roman Catholic priest in Dedham, Massachusetts, has taken a stand against the Trump administration's mass deportation agenda by replacing Jesus, Mary, and Joseph with a sign that reads "I.C.E. was here" in the church's Nativity scene. An additional sign states, "The Holy Family is safe in The Sanctuary of our Church…If You see I.C.E. Please Call LUCE At 617-370-5023." The priest has defied calls from both Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the Archdiocese of Boston to remove the signs.
Rev. Stephen Josoma of St. Susanna Parish told WBUR that the scene is meant to focus the Christmas story on the plight of immigrants, citing conversations with refugee families living in fear of deportation after coming to the U.S. from countries such as Honduras, Guatemala, and Afghanistan. "These are folks who carry a lot of scars with them. Some of them are physical scars, but most are emotional," he told WBUR. "They've seen their folks killed in front of them."
"You feed the hungry, you take care of the homeless, you clothe the naked, you take care of people and their needs," Josoma told The Boston Globe. "[ICE raids] are the complete antithesis of that on so many levels."
The scene has drawn criticism from both church and state. Terry Donilon, a spokesperson for the Archdiocese of Boston, said in a statement to MassLive.com that the "divisive political messaging" should be removed, while pointing to statements by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops that call for the humane treatment of immigrants.
Meanwhile, both ICE and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) have condemned the church's speech. ICE Acting Director Todd Lyons called for the removal of the Nativity scene in a statement to Fox News, saying, "The actions of the activist reverend, Stephen Josoma, are absolutely abhorrent and add to a dangerous narrative responsible for a more than 1,150% increase in assaults on ICE officers."
Tricia McLaughlin, DHS assistant secretary for public affairs, told MassLive.com, "Not only is this 'nativity' scene offensive to Christians, but it is also depicting something that—despite what Rev. Josoma says—NEVER happens. ICE does not separate families….Get a grip and seek help."
Despite McLaughlin's insistence, the agency has, in fact, separated immigrant families. In October, a case of a 13-year-old Massachusetts boy from Brazil made headlines after he was detained by ICE rather than being released to his mother following his arrest by the Everett Police Department. The boy was subsequently transported to a Virginia detention center over 500 miles away without his family's or his attorney's knowledge. More cases have come to light, including a 6-year-old boy in Queens who was detained by ICE and separated from his Chinese father. And a recent report from ProPublica found that ICE has sent about 600 immigrant children to detention this year—a number higher than the previous four years combined—suggesting more families have also been separated.
Regardless of any disagreement that ICE or the DHS may have with Josoma over his church's Nativity scene—should he choose to keep it—this kind of speech is firmly protected under the First Amendment. Between the Free Speech and Free Exercise clauses, both private religious speech and expressive religious activities are protected from government infringement, particularly when the speech concerns important civic discussions—like controversial immigration enforcement policies. Any decision to remove the scene should be left up to the church.
Despite all the pushback, Josoma and about 10 other St. Susanna parishioners gathered on Monday to defend the display, according to MassLive.com. Josoma said the scene has been received positively, and he is waiting to speak with the archbishop of Boston, Richard Henning, before removing the scene. "The church has a right to speak out," Josoma told Fox News. "And we should be talking about issues. We're supposed to take care of people."
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Is nothing considered to be in bad taste anymore?
Whaddyagonna do? Protest The Church?
Pretend to be Antifa and burn it down?
Or just nail a list of demands on the front door?
Or aboriginal
I agree. Ignoring civil rights abuses and pretending that the government isn't harming immigrant children is in bad taste, especially given the story of Jesus and his words in the Bible.
You mean the GOP/Trump government is harming the over 60K immigrant children they saved so far from the sexually abusive situation that the Democrat/Biden administration allowed to occur?
Do you feel sympathy for unknown amounts of illegal immigrant children that have not been found and are being abused right now or how about those that are dead and will never be heard from again?
Yeah stuff your feigned compassion up your ass so you stop talking shit.
Why is this in bad taste? Christians promote policies in the name of Jesus all the time.
What an idiot.
The holy family weren't illegal immigrants. They weren't even legal immigrants.
They were literally in town to comply with the Roman census.
I think the wise men might have been illegals. They are still in the scene?
No, they reported first to King Herod who then told them to go to Bethlehem. So Roman/Judean ICE wouldn't touch them.
Even at that, the border doesn't have a sign saying "Closed" hanging on it.
This isn't difficult.
*In their home town.*
Ironically, they were forced to leave and go home;)
Indeed. As a practicing Christian, I do not get why so many Leftist churches have no clue, at all, what they allegedly believe.
Damned-and-Sick says... "Jesus HATED the illegal sub-humans, so YOU should hate them TOO!!!!!"
Damned-and-Sick says... "Ass a practicing Christian, I will tell YOU twat to BLEEEEEVE!!!!"
Can you give it a rest, you twisted psycho cunt?
Just ass soon ass Dear Orange Caligula and Shit's followers STOP the EVIL insanity!!!
You're just angry your stock is getting rounded up and taken away.
And Egypt at the time was also part of the Roman empire.
At worst, they were no different to people leaving one state in the Union for another.
At worst, they were no different to people leaving one state in the Union for another.
"They shouldn't have been there." - Nick Gillespie
THEY CROSSED STATE LINES!
But Judea wasn't. See my other comment. Apparently the Roman Empire had Open Borders with neighboring states.
An article that spends a lot of time crying about this being 'protrcted speech' while also admitting no one is using the power of the state against it.
Even the Church itself is against this.
While not surprising, Reason shows they know as little about how the chain of command works in the RC church as they do about the US military.
Perhaps it’s a lesson Rev. Stephen Josoma will learn as well when his virtue signaling results in him joining Jesus, Mary, and Joseph in being replaced at his church.
To be fair, a local judge may order The Archdiocese of Boston to support Josoma’s resistance to OrangeHitler. It is Massachusetts, after all.
Because Reason has taken the odd position that a government agency or official merely complaining about potentially libelous statements against them is attacking free speech.
But only since 2022;)
Nowhere in the statement you quote from government does it make a claim the speech isnt allowed. No legal threats.
Did you start with a conclusion and work backwards?
Yeah I actually rtfa because I doubted the assertion in the subtitle, and I was correct.
"ICE was here." <- "No kings." <- "I'm with stupid."
Christians had a good run, it's about time they welcomed their new rulers and rightful prophet and bend over for their well deserved jizya
Love the Barry Hope and Change narrative
It may be free speech, but it's also free speech to state that it's both retarded and anti-Christian.
"The Holy Family is safe in The Sanctuary of our Church…If You see I.C.E. Please Call LUCE At 617-370-5023."
[Ricky Ricardo voice] 'Ello Luc-ay! I in Chickago! It winter! I see ICE *everywhere*!
... [dials again]
[Borat voice] 'Ello Luc-ay! I in Chickago! It winter! I see ICE *everywhere*!
You can say it's anti-Christian, but if you want people to take you seriously, you'd need to defend that statement. At least one church and its priest disagrees with you.
Yeah. That checks out. I'm not even Christian and I know the theology MUCH better than this woke pastor (not a priest).
I’m not a religious person, but I’d be pretty pissed off if I attended a church where the reverend replaced one of the most important events in the history of my religion with some political virtue signaling bullshit.
Same. Seems like a sacrilege to me and I have to wonder about parishioners that support it. And I really have to admire how Autumn weaves this into claims that ICE is separating families by linking to herself defending a gun toting gang member. That's some real journalisming right there.
You would be hard-pressed to find a Christian church in the US or Europe that doesn't.
Cannot fathom why progressive churches have significant attendance issues.
My Southern Baptist church? Not too many issues with attendance. Ever.
"The collection plate is getting lighter and lighter every week... I know what will get people tithing! Let's hold Baby Jesus hostage as a political message!"
Haha! You’re a fucking retard. Southern baptists are the fucking worst.
Enjoy your stay in hell you bigoted, America hating scum!
Southern Baptist Convention has been reporting membership losses in recent years.
Whose speech was infringed upon here?
'"You feed the hungry, you take care of the homeless, you clothe the naked, you take care of people and their needs," Josoma told The Boston Globe.'
You do that with your private property and you support charity. You do that with my private property, against my consent, and you support communism.
Yeah, I wonder how many immigrant families that church is sponsoring so they don't have to rely on the taxpayers for their every need?
Queen Elizabeth I was a communist? She was the monarch who ordered everyone in her realm to pay taxes to support the poor. Parliament enacted that law.
Basically, support for the poor has been a governmental function in our legal tradition since before Jamestown.
Yup, and we do a lot of that chuck, you fucking moron. When the whole world wants to send their poor to the suckers with the white guilt/savior complex, it gets to be too much.
See what happens when you won’t talk about limits because you’re scared? You built this.
Your resorting to name-calling shows that my points in the comment were correct and that you have neither facts nor logic with which to counter me. You have been owned.
"The actions of the activist reverend, Stephen Josoma, are absolutely abhorrent and add to a dangerous narrative responsible for a more than 1,150% increase in assaults on ICE officers."
Oh, so speech IS violence then. Got it!
Actual threats and incitement to violence are not protected speech.
Remember that dumbass in Texas who opened fire on an ICE facility and shot a bunch of migrants instead of officers?
We keep being told that BOTH SIDES need to tone down the rhetoric, but all of the violence, threats and violent rhetoric is coming from ONE SIDE.
https://nypost.com/2025/12/09/us-news/nj-twins-arrested-over-threats-to-shoot-ice-on-sight-kill-kristi-noems-deputy-dhs-says/
We keep being told that BOTH SIDES need to tone down the rhetoric, but all of the violence, threats and violent rhetoric is coming from ONE SIDE.
You must be aware that this is flatly untrue. You can't blame Trump for all the violence and violent rhetoric
I blame the people making a decision to commit violence for the violence. Blaming it on other people is just a way to avoid personal responsibility, which is pretty popular these days.
What's with all the hyphenated last names with the Hispanics? Another bunch who don't know who their fathers are?
In most Spanish speaking places, the traditional naming convention is to have basically two last names, first the father's family name, then the mother's (what we'd call "maiden name"). They hyphenation is often used in English because otherwise the actual family name is likely to be interpreted as a middle name.
My own family ran into issues with this at the Florida DMV of all places. You would think that a state with such a large Hispanic population would understand the convention.
it says "adds to a narrative" not "shoots bullets" learn to read
Jeff has been really struggling woth reading comprehension lately. Blood sugar must be low.
He know how to read. He’s just inherently dishonest.
That sign may be dumb, but it's not an incitement to violence.
Meh, this is the usual DHS/ICE propaganda B.S.
A "1150% increase in assaults on ICE officers" would be less meaningful if there was a 1150% increase in sworn officers. It could also have a lot do with the fact that ICE officers respond to peaceful resistance with violence and then claim any resulting injuries as "assault" even if self-inflicted. One ICE idiot smashed open a car window, drug the driver out of the car, and cut his hand on the broken glass. He claimed he was assaulted by the driver.
>>this kind of speech is firmly protected under the First Amendment.
ya everybody this side of Pluto knows this. Father Retard is still a retard did anyone ask him his body count just for fun?
Dude, you’re not a hippie. You’re a freedom hating, Trump fellating fascist.
Yes, false propaganda is protected speech.
(Even when they fled to Egypt, they were not immigrants, as they planned to leave as soon as Herod gave up his persecution)
Sue the church for defamation! TRUMP 2028!
So fucking broken.
Weren't you and jeff yet again defending the 1.5B against Alex Jones just yesterday?
This is so epically retarded and tone deaf the only thing that could top it would be the wise men holding a “Free Palestine” banner.
Winner
Just wait until they chase The Pope out of The Vatican because he wasn't born there.
perfect.
Oh BS, telling citizens to report on federal police doing their job is not protected speech. Functionally no different that someone posting "if you see a Jew call this number" outside his house.
ICE would have deported baby Jesus and his family back to..... the home town they were headed back to anyways. That's assuming they didn't take the offer to self deport with financial assistance. That's assuming they were illegal aliens. They weren't. They might be refugees in the spirit of the term, but we don't call North Koreans who move to another town in North Korea to hide from North Korean police "refugees".
I've said this here and I'll say it again - this is called Reason being intentionally dense and obtuse in the name of immigration. They become televangelist on this issue. Tell me with a straight face that "If you see a Muslim call this number" could not be POSSIBLY interpreted as a threat or call to violence. If the number was a gay dating site, the perpetrator might be charged with a hate crime.
From LUCE's website -
"LUCE mobilizes community members across Massachusetts to respond to ICE activity, provide real-time verification and support, and fight back against detention, deportation, and criminalization."
Notice how they didn't even bother to puts qualifiers like "unlawful detention and deportation"
"Oh BS, telling citizens to report on federal police doing their job is not protected speech. Functionally no different that someone posting "if you see a Jew call this number."
Reporting on police actions of any kind (local, state, federal, military) is protected speech. Otherwise there's no freedom of the press.
Posting a request to "call this number" if you see pretty much anything is also protected speech. [IANAL]
Also worth noting that people close to the Trump administration have already said very vile things about Jews without consequence, should you need evidence that it's protected speech. I don't think you understand what the First Amendment protects.
"telling citizens to report on federal police doing their job is not protected speech."
I personally reported five possible speed traps to Google Maps yesterday. Arrest me. And the execs of Google who put that in their app.
The Gospel of Luke tells us that after the Magi unintendedly alerted Heriod of a new King of the Jews. Heriod then sought to find and kill the baby Jesus. Alerted by a dream Joseph takes he family to Egypt for safety. And so Jesus and his parents become refugees. So let us remember the refugees, like Jesus, this Christmas.
Matthew not Luke.
In Luke, Herod had been dead for nine years at the time of Jesus's birth. See my other comment.
You are a better Bible scholar than me and it was indeed Matthew not Luke. The point does remain that Joseph, Mary and Jesus were refugees in Egypt.
Correct they fled to the Roman Empire. A separate country at that point. Caesar Augustus had handpicked Herod to be his puppet King, but Trump wants to do that in Venezuela without annexing it to the US. The UK was famous for overthrowing rulers and installing its favorites throughout the 20th century.
I would leave my church if they dehumanized drug addicts and prostitutes the way the left demonizes cops and ICE.
What penance will this pharisee pay unto God if one of these "refugees" rape and murder a woman in his town? Because the church has the info and verification on illegals to safely conclude they deserve mercy beyond the law? What will God say in the day judgment? "One loss of innocent was acceptable in my eyes for the cheap labor of thine fields"
Jesus literally came to occupied, oppressed territory and did not liberate them. Some his disciples thought he'd be the new king or liberator and he said nah. If you don't know who he is by now, you can't lead the church.
This priest should be excommunicated. Not by the church, but by the community. This man would call for understanding and dialogue if a muslim blew up 100 Jews in America tomorrow. But he urges his community to report on ICE as if they were Jews out to poison the town well. Bob Cratchitt toasting Scrooge while his family howls against it is a true Christian. This man is a liberal activist with a religious cloak.
"Render to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's"
Again, you either get Jesus or you don't.
Alternatively you could say "let he who is without sin throw the first stone". Except for those of aboriginal ancestry we are all from immigrant stock. We should remember that when condemning today immigrants.
I wonder what could be different from 400 years ago and today…
The land was free. There was no real paper work, you boarded a ship and came to America. Things like that.
Correct. Basically, everyone was welcome.
Even in the OT, the sins of one's fathers only are passed on for 3-4 generations. At some point, you need to let the past be the past. Even indigenous people are descended from migrants at some point. And it's not like they didn't spend thousands of years fighting over land and killing each other too, just like everyone else in the world.
Just suggesting there is a Bible verse you can pull out for whatever argument you want to make.
If ICE is going to violate civil rights, take people off the street without due process, and racially profile, then they earn any criticism they get.
Why didn't "The Left(tm)" do all these things under Obama and Biden, who accelerated deportations under their administrations? Because they did it legally, using judges, courts, and warrants. They didn't separate children from parents, violate court orders, or pay a foreign country to disappear people into a prison without a conviction.
"But he urges his community to report on ICE as if they were Jews out to poison the town well."
I'm getting strong anti-Semitic, MAGA brown-shirty vibes here...
I don't think government agencies really have the capacity to like things or not. In any case, it's irrelevant unless they are trying to force the church to take down the signs. Which in my opinion are silly and in bad taste. Don't pull fucking politics into Christmas and alienate or annoy a good chunk of your congregation (or maybe not so big of a chunk in Dedham, but still).
And the statement by Josuma, if taken to its logical conclusion, is that immigration laws should never be enforced, which would mean having effectively open borders.
Maybe that's their agenda, but I suspect that for many it's as simple as "if Trump wants it, I'm against it".
I suspect that for many it's as simple as "if Trump wants it, I'm against it".
The alternative is too complicated and violently insane to seriously comprehend.
Not sure what in the Constitution gives the federal government the power to restrict immigration.
But the entire family was gone, so this does not depict ICE separating the family. Get a grip yourself.
"ICE does not separate families"
Yet another lie.
Why would ICE be there?
Joseph, Mary and Jesus were citizens of the Roman Empire. They were not illegals.
Joseph and Mary were in Bethlehem to be counted in the census. They had to stay in a barn because the town was full of others who'd come in for the census, not because they were turned away for being illegal
The left can't meme. Ever.
And then having to flee to Egypt as potential insurrectionists because Herod was told Jesus was the rightful King of the Jews instead of him.
And at that point they were refugees.
And Joseph certainly had a better claim to the throne than Herod. See my other comment about another monarch who murdered people with better claims to reign.
Jesus, Mary, and Joseph were emphatically NOT Roman citizens. The Empire had a Trump like nationality law that severely limited citizenship, mostly to Italians.
And according to Matthew, they weren't even living in the Roman Empire at the time of Jesus's birth. See my other comment. They were subjects of the puppet King Herod -- an illegitimate monarch.
Oh yeah?
Well someone said that Herod was a Roman 'puppet'.
King of Judea. Herod ruled all of the Land of Israel, having been installed there by the Romans.
Who was that?
charliehall 16 hours ago
Hey! it was you!
You can't even keep your own ignorance straight.
Huh? Herod was installed as puppet ruler by Caesar Augustus. But Judea was not a part of the Roman Empire yet.
This is basic historical fact. I am not the ignorant one here. You falsely claimed they were Roman citizens.
These are folks who carry a lot of scars with them...you take care of people
Absolutely, just look at the way the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Boston took care of it's child-molesting priests.
This virtue signaling douche should spend every waking minute of the rest of his life ministering to the thousands of boys raped by his brothers over the last 50 years. They too carry a lot of scars with them. Maybe, maybe, that would be a start. Deeds, asshole, not platitudes.
There is a problem with the narrative. More precisely, two narratives. The Gospel of Matthew has Jesus being born while Herod was King of Judea. Herod ruled all of the Land of Israel, having been installed there by the Romans. Herod was like Trump, a lawless murderer. Joseph and his family were legal subjects of Herod, not immigrants. They fled to Egypt, part of the Roman Empire by then, and were refugees there for a while. Herod would naturally have wanted to eliminate a possible challenger to his rule as he knew that he was an illegitimate monarch. Henry VIII of England would similarly execute potential claimants who had better claims to the throne. Similarly, Herod murdered members of his own family. He died in 4 BCE.
The Gospel of Luke describes Joseph's family as having gone to Bethlehem because of a census ordered by Caesar Augustus, and that Publius Sulpicius Quirinius was the Roman Governor. The problem is that Quirinius was not installed as Governor until Herod's son and successor as puppet King Herod Archelaus was deposed by the Romans and the region became a Roman province. This happened in 6 CE, nine years after Herod's death. (There was no year zero; zero hadn't been invented yet.) Luke's account doesn't talk about anyone being a refugee. But censuses were used for tax purposes this one triggered a revolt, described in other sources. The Romans easily put down the revolt, not mentioned in the Bible.
No easy way to reconcile this. And while according to Matthew, Joseph's family were indeed refugees in a foreign country, the Roman Empire, they weren't immigrants in Judea, but natural born subjects.
Thank you for the explanation. The Bible is a book that does a good job of furnishing support for many contradictory ideas. Following Matthew we can see the Holy Family as refugees and it is very possible to see Father Josoma's point of view as legitimate. In both Luke and Matthew we see the hardship of people traveling from their home as the Holy Family did.
the scene is meant to focus the Christmas story on the plight of immigrants
The Christmas story has nothing to do with immigrants and their "plight."
You think this is bad? Wait until you see what happens to him in about 30 years or so.
"You feed the hungry, you take care of the homeless, you clothe the naked, you take care of people and their needs," Josoma told The Boston Globe. "[ICE raids] are the complete antithesis of that on so many levels."
Until you can't because some illegal killed you and your family and skull fucked you all. And your extended family and friends wish they called ICE.
The Pastor is just trying to protect the cartel controlled missing illegal immigrant children from being found by ICE and removed from the abusive situation they're in.
Anyone check the basement?
Illegal immigrants are LITERALLY here to break the 7th and 10th commandments.
The 8th is the distinction between legal and illegal immigrants.
The media muddying the waters is frequently a violation of the 8th.
"offensive to Christians" ???
Which ones?
The reason we have a First Amendment is because there are devout Christians (and other religion's followers) that are completely, uncynically serious of all flavors (everything from Roman Catholic to fundamentalist Evangelicals to Congregationalists to Quakers to Christian Science) on both ends of the political spectrum.
Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's and unto God that which is God's. Let the pastor's bishop (or parishoners) decide if this is appropriate or not. Let ICE/DHS stick to their jobs as defined by Congress and the Executive.