Department of Useless
Plus: Big-city kid exodus, a Hollywood cancellation, and more...
Dismantling or reorganizing? The Department of Education "has signed interagency agreements to outsource six offices to other agencies, including those that administer $28 billion in grants to K-12 schools and $3.1 billion for programs that help students finish college," reports The Washington Post. It's a step toward dismantling the department, which was created in 1979, by combining offices from a few different federal agencies. (The dismantling is, in a sense, a callback to the creation.)
Right when he first took office, President Donald Trump signed an executive order calling for the department to be totally axed. Education Secretary Linda McMahon would need to work with Congress to get this through, but it seems unlikely to pass the Senate, so this appears to be the approach they're taking instead.
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Earlier in the fall, McMahon "took a first step and moved career and technical education programs, including adult education and family literacy initiatives, to the Labor Department," reports the Post. Now, Labor will also get "the Office of Elementary and Secondary Education, including 27 K-12 grant programs, and the Office of Postsecondary Education, which administers 14 programs to help students enroll in and complete college." The Indian education program will move to the Interior Department and foreign-language education will be moved to the State Department.
It's not like shuffling departments around necessarily makes them better or more efficient. But there is at least some clarity from the upper echelons on the relative uselessness of a lot of DOE functions. "The U.S. Department of Education is mostly a pass-through for funds that are best managed by the states," wrote the secretary herself.
"Our nation just experienced the longest government shutdown in its history," she continued. "The 43-day shutdown, which came smack in the middle of the fall semester, showed every family how unnecessary the federal education bureaucracy is to their children's education. Students kept going to class. Teachers continued to get paid. There were no disruptions in sports seasons or bus routes."
"Today, American reading and math scores are near historical lows," reads Trump's rather scathing executive order calling for the department's dismantling. "This year's National Assessment of Educational Progress showed that 70 percent of 8th graders were below proficient in reading, and 72 percent were below proficient in math. The Federal education bureaucracy is not working."
"While the Department of Education does not educate anyone, it maintains a public relations office that includes over 80 staffers at a cost of more than $10 million per year," reads the executive order. In other words: What exactly does it do? And why are we allocating money to this expansive bureaucracy that doesn't actually seem to target the proper objectives and improve outcomes?
The current strategy appears to be rather piecemeal. Let's hope the administration can prioritize more aggressive dismantling, and get congressional cooperation to actually shutter the fairly pointless department once and for all.
Scenes from New York:
Look at the decline in population for young children (under age 5) in major cities from 2005 to 2024
This is catastrophicAustin +98%
Orlando +89%
Raleigh +87%
Charlotte +81%
Dallas +81%Chicago -31%
Boston -33%
New York - 34%
LA -36%
San Francisco -38% https://t.co/iOHL4SnAu0 pic.twitter.com/FxeWf16QUs— Bobby Fijan (@bobbyfijan) November 18, 2025
QUICK HITS
- "Twice a day, my immediate neighborhood is consumed by the school car pickup line problem, which has become more and more common in this country, and for the dumbest reasons you can think of," writes Freddie de Boer. "You see, elementary schools have been plotted and designed with the assumption that a significant portion of the kids are going to arrive by bus or walk." But buses are no longer the way parents seek to get children to school, seemingly due to fears about school bus safety. This is irrational, writes de Boer, since "students are nearly eight times more likely to die in a passenger car than in a school bus per mile driven." Indeed, "whether we're replacing walking or the bus with driving, the real point is that cars are just remarkably unsafe.…when your kid is riding in your car, it's the single most dangerous scenario they regularly enter into. 'I want my kid to be safe so I'm going to be putting them in the car a couple extra times a day' is the height of irrationality."
- "Home Depot Inc. cut its full-year earnings guidance, warning that some unsteady consumers are hitting the pause button on big-ticket home purchases," reports Bloomberg. "The world's largest home-improvement retailer said it expects adjusted earnings per share to decline 5% from a year ago, lower than its previous forecast."
- Inside the Hollywood cancellation of Dasha Nekrasova.
- Suisun City is a dilapidated town of 30,000 near the Bay Area. Its "latest bid for renewal: a proposal to annex 22,873 acres of agricultural land owned by a company called California Forever, a development play backed by a group of Silicon Valley billionaires," reports The New York Times. "California Forever's hope is to build a new, up-from-the-ground city on yellow hills dotted with sheep and wind turbines. The point of the Suisun annexation is for each side to help the other solve a problem. California Forever's problem is that it wants to build on unincorporated land in Solano County, which has a law forbidding the building of much of anything outside established cities. Suisun's problem is that it is broke."
- President Donald Trump told an ABC reporter that his network's license should be revoked after the reporter asked him a probing question about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
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The Department of Education "has signed interagency agreements to outsource six offices to other agencies...
The Titanic's deck chairs are going to be all over the place.
As long as the lifeboats use DEI guidelines.
Grade inflation is real.
Students with 4.0s and taking calculus on HS require remedial math after entering college. Findings show students failing at even elementary school math concepts.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/11/ucsds-freshmen-apply-with-4-0-gpas-but-fail-basic-math-as-academic-standards-collapse/
But I bet they tell you what all of the pride flags mean.
What about pride flags on two trains that leave stations 100 miles apart, traveling at 50 mph...
I'd push the fat man, switch the tracks, and throw grenades at the train that won't hit anyone.
What if the fat man has a bear in his trunk?
Some PhDs went that route.
Should citizens on the public dole be allowed to vote?
https://mises.org/mises-wire/why-food-stamp-recipients-and-government-contractors-should-not-be-allowed-vote
No. Shouldn't be allowed to vote for candidates that promise more other people's shit.
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith; From spiritual faith to great courage; From courage to liberty; From liberty to abundance; From abundance to selfishness; From selfishness to apathy; From apathy to dependence; From dependence back into bondage.”
― Alexander Fraser Tytler
Hey, I have said that for years.
"No representation without taxation!"
^+1.
We need to limit the franchise, and limiting it to net taxpayers only is a START, but still doesn't go far enough.
OK, no chicks.
Agreed
Twice a day, my immediate neighborhood is consumed by the school car pickup line problem...
In my day we walked to school...
Me too, and it was on paved sidewalks in generally good weather. with no hills.
So not rural Idaho, huh?
My school was uphill both ways.
I used to do my homework on a shovel.
Lucky. All we had was pitchforks. We had to write vertically in narrow columns.
Well that explains how the Chinese written language is perfect for the agrarian laborer.
this took too long but is clever
WELL MY EXPERIENCE WAS ASS-DEEP SNOW AND HILLS ALL OVER THE PLACE.
Parents that allowed this should be prosecuted retroactively; if they had the temerity to die in the interim proceed as Pope Stephen VI was dug out of the grave, dressed in his regalia, propped on his throne, found guilty and tossed into the Tiber (897 AD).
Now we know what the New Democratic Socialists will do to Trump in 100 years.
There are other reasons why parents drop off the little shits at school:
https://kcra.com/article/school-path-blocked-encampments-sacramento-neighborhood/37877615
Might also help explain why people with kids are getting the fuck out of cities.
And I thought the dickheads that put up "no parking" signs in front of their public street houses were bad.
probably wore an onion on your belt too
It was the style of the time.
Proof democrats are successful.
Amy Klobuchar
@amyklobuchar
After 50 years, the final segment of Highway 610 is now open, connecting Maple Grove to I-94!
I worked to secure federal funding for this highway, which means shorter commutes, faster emergency routes, and more opportunity.
But what about the global climate warming change?
new science dropped, its ice age again.
Gosh! you are so misinformed and uneducated
Climate Change Could Heat the Earth Right Into a New Ice Age
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/climate-change-could-heat-the-earth-right-into-a-new-ice-age/ar-AA1QrKpS?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Was hoping people would pick up on the 50 years.
Look at the decline in population for young children (under age 5) in major cities from 2005 to 2024
This is catastrophic
Finally, the tide is changing in the Great Rural/Urban War.
Just wait for the next border Czar to come along
How is this catastrophic? People are choosing not to have children and as a consequence not having them.
How about this for catastrophe? Almost 60 million people in Cairo, Lagos and Kinshasa combined, and they are still among the world's fastest growing cities!
Still hoping someone clicks on your name by mistake and doubles you weekly hit-count?
I accidentally did this once, but my work system blocked it, thank god.
You did the meme.
I'm just a modern guy.
And here I thought you were postmodern.
Was hoping you had been done in by a bouncing piece of rubble in Gaza.
Home Depot Inc. cut its full-year earnings guidance, warning that some unsteady consumers are hitting the pause button on big-ticket home purchases...
I blame the dwindling supply of day laborers usually on display in front of their stores.
People always talk about this like it's super common, but I've never actually seen it in person.
Check out the elite here who doesn't even see brown people as people.
I'm looking through them like they aren't even there.
I've seen it in Houston and Los Angeles, but never in White-aho.
It's super common if you live in California or some of the places it has infected. It started to happen in suburban Colorado during Biden's great invasion, but as blue as this state has become, that was a bridge too far for the Kamala moms with their precious little white kids in the Audi. Lasted maybe a month, then the cops showed up and put an end to it.
Where on earth do you live? Our local HD would have enough hanging around on Saturday morning that they attracted an evangelical street preacher shouting the gospel at them in Spanish over a megaphone.
St. Louis, MO
In the upper Midwest, I blame Menards and their 11% rebate.
I haven't gone back there since they wouldn't let my child come in with me during covid.
I am spending my 11% refund this week. Menard has as much as Lowe's and Home Depot combined.
And I have never seen any laborers looking for work outside of any of them in Iowa.
Talking sedition.
https://x.com/ludwignvermises/status/1990890754579763661?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
The video has to be listened to to believe. A bunch of Democrat are spouting off that the military should ignore orders.
I wake up.
Dems do something blatantly illegal.
GOP politicians outraged.
Nothing happens.
I wake up . . .
https://x.com/Null69/status/1990880086078181711
Inside the Hollywood cancellation of Dasha Nekrasova.
Hollywood is not a quick learner.
They only give up their precious virtue after you pry it from their cold dead fingers.
Sounds good to me.
Yeah, my street is one of the two main roads that lead to our local elementary school, and there are mornings that I can hardly pull out to get to work because of all the parents driving their kids.
School choice and charters exacerbate this as public school systems have set routes and refuse to even rent busses to charters.
charters exacerbate this... refuse to even rent busses to charters
? Charters exacerbate it by... not being a part of bussing? Several of our local school districts specifically contract with "Transportation Companies" that manage their bus routes but also charter for short route bussing (travel leagues, church groups, community service groups, etc.). A big source of this issue locally is that the charter company started out bussing and the facilities are right up against the local school.
Charters recieve less per student than public schools. They also are not allowed to pay school district bus companies for service.
Less money, less subsidized tools to use.
Arizona has literally had charters try to rent vacant school buildings and been rejected.
Charters
D'oh! Charter Schools... not Charter Busses!
Well what do you expect when virtually all of those parents are convinced that child trafficking rings run amok anywhere and everywhere at any time?
President Donald Trump told an ABC reporter that his network's license should be revoked after the reporter asked him a probing question about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
What happens to a broadcast network if its licensed is revoked?
A bunch of people mysteriously lose their channel 2 in an, AFAWK, unprecedented spate of tragic boating accidents.
Hey Peanuts, I know you got off watching Fatass Donnie fellate his fellow free-press hating authoritarian counterpart “Bonesaw” - the murderous Saudi terrorist king.
For us liberty loving people it was sickening. Glad you enjoyed it though.
Yeah, it would be so much better if we were at war with them.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Yeah, next thing you know he’ll be sending a pallet of unmarked cash to the POS.
Kill yourself.
You have any citations or links, Turd?
American president is friendly with the Saudis. News at 11.
Did he bow to them?
A fist bump is the proper etiquette.
" . . . seemingly due to fears about school bus safety."
Please note the fear is not traffic accidents, but the behaviors of the other "students" and/or the drivers.
Somewhat enhanced by the useless hours spent in transit.
'I want my kid to be safe so I'm going to be putting them in the car a couple extra times a day' is the height of irrationality."
Same as people who will drive 5 hours to go to the beach, and then say "I'm not getting in the water because I'm afraid of getting eaten by a shark."
Same as people who will drive 5 hours to go to the beach, and then say "I'm not getting in the water because I'm afraid of getting eaten by a shark."
With all due respect, I came to the beach, not the ocean.
We voted to ELIMINATE the DoE, not split it up into many departments that will be more difficult to track down and stomp on.
Just transfer collecting existing "student" loans to Treasury, and totally eliminate all other functions.
For someone to lose a federal job is just too tragic to bear.
Its basically rape. Ask sarc.
"Federal workers are people, just like you and me. Sure, we forcibly take money from you to pay them, but aside from that, they're the exact same as private sector workers, only better." -Tony
Really:
Tony|9.7.17 @ 4:43PM|#
"I don't consider taxing and redistribution to be either forced or charity."
Molly is one dumb dude.
Worse than rape. The rape doesn't last as long.
Is that bear in a trunk?
"The 43-day shutdown, which came smack in the middle of the fall semester, showed every family how unnecessary the federal education bureaucracy is to their children's education. Students kept going to class. Teachers continued to get paid. There were no disruptions in sports seasons or bus routes."
Except for people and families whose very identity and emotional existence requires the comfort and security of knowing that Big Brother/Sister/Gender-fluid Person is watching out for them and available to direct their lives and squash their enemies.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-recipe-for-idiocracy/ar-AA1QJFd6
Five years ago, about 30 incoming freshmen at UC San Diego arrived with math skills below high-school level. Now, according to a recent report from UC San Diego faculty and administrators, that number is more than 900—and most of those students don’t fully meet middle-school math standards. Many students struggle with fractions and simple algebra problems. Last year, the university, which admits fewer than 30 percent of undergraduate applicants, launched a remedial-math course that focuses entirely on concepts taught in elementary and middle school. (According to the report, more than 60 percent of students who took the previous version of the course couldn’t divide a fraction by two.) One of the course’s tutors noted that students faced more issues with “logical thinking” than with math facts per se. They didn’t know how to begin solving word problems.
Any university that has a remedial math class should be treated as a for profit and not recieve any federal funds
Any word on the Muslims and just an idea attacking Christians in deerborn, while the ragheads cops let it happen?
Trying to burn a Koran is not the type of free speech reason supports.
Flags (non pride), Jesus in a piss jar, etc sure. But not the bad free speech.
The bacon-rubbed koran is my new favorite. Doing it in downtown Deerborn takes some balls.
I guess it's been a long time since Draw Mohammed Day.
"Look at the decline in population for young children (under age 5) in major cities from 2005 to 2024"
Now look at the increase in non-functional sex organs in those cities. Also confusion about the term "woman".
Check out the “biologist” over here.
"students are nearly eight times more likely to die in a passenger car than in a school bus per mile driven."
Spending time with ones own children should be avoided? I'd get the argument if it was they should be walking to school more, but more safetyism isn't what children or parents need.
Criticizing parents for figuring out how they want to get their kids to school doesn't seem very libertarian to me. But I guess it takes a village in Reasonland.
twice-daily unnecessary traffic disruptions violate the NAP
Wait. The NAP applies when we're in cars? Uh oh.
That's debatable according to our local Chemist. For example, if you are driving around with a bear in your trunk but don't know it. If you stop, go inside, and the bear gets out and mauls someone and climbs back into your trunk did you violate the NAP?
I don't know if it violates the NAP, but I do know you get used to it.
Only if you aren’t wearing a mask.
I don’t know about the NAP, but it’s definitely a culture war violation to be in a car and not on mass transit.
Shame.
No, it’s not about spending g quality time, it’s just another aspect of helicopter parenting. They have to be in line waiting to pick up their child the moment school ends.
When I was in second grade, I rode the bus. But when I was in third grade, my parents determined I was old enough to walk the half-mile to school, if I didn’t want to take the bus. So I walked. And walked home. My parents did not have to watch every single step of travel.
I didn't qualify the time spent as quality or otherwise. Could be quality time like I had driving around with my parent(s), talking or listening to music - enjoying ourselves. It could be helicopter parents afraid of shadows. That's up to parents of the children, and best left to them.
I went to a Catholic school, didn't have a bus and it was miles from the house. Dad would take us in the morning (early) on the way to work, mom would pick us up. But I was given ample opportunity to explore the world elsewhere as a youngster.
"whether we're replacing walking or the bus with driving, the real point is that cars are just remarkably unsafe.…when your kid is riding in your car, it's the single most dangerous scenario they regularly enter into. 'I want my kid to be safe so I'm going to be putting them in the car a couple extra times a day' is the height of irrationality."
Uh, sure. Is this another "millions of children died" paranoid fantasy? Do you know how many miles, on average, you have to drive in a "remarkably unsafe" car before you have an even chance of dying, or killing your kid? About 83 million miles. And if you don't drive drunk at 2am, It will take way more miles.
BTW if you want to discourage personal school drop-offs just charge a fee. Teach the kids about free markets.
Are there even any children left after covid killed them all?
Well, not in those celibate cities.
It’s a little hard to have kids in a place like San Francisco when you’re using the wrong hole on the sex that can’t get pregnant.
Now who's the biologist?
It can happen.
- Joseph
And if you don't drive drunk at 2am, It will take way more miles.
I'd also venture a guess that most cars don't get above 35mph during the school commute.
I'd hate to have my 8 year old lad to get bonked in the head by a car traveling at 35 mph. Think of the inconvenience.
Yeah, conflating the drop-off of kids at school with all driven miles, where fatalities tend to happen on highways with vehicles moving at highway speeds, is disingenuous. There’s probably not of children who get killed during their school commutes with parents, and it’s probably comparable to school bus fatalities, if you go apples to apples.
Intersections are where most fatalities occur. Not on the highway. Divided highways that prevent head on collisions are even safer.
Illegal immigrant truck driver says hold his cerveza.
They Sikh out the worst places to crash.
Traffic collisions ARE the major cause of death and serious injuries for kids aged 5-19.
The most unsafe scenario with the whole drop off the kids at school is not the kids riding in the car. It's when they get dropped off - and start navigating around the OUTSIDE of cars - along with those kids who are biking or walking - with parent drivers who are stressed and angry and pissed and late for work and shitty drivers anyway. The most dangerous place for those kids is that drop off point. Parents are the killers. It is the main reason why countries that want kids to walk/bike to school prohibit vehicle drop-offs within a block or more of the school. Easy to do - just shut those roads to vehicles.
Of course if schools were serious about kids biking to school, they'd offer more places to park the bikes. Something like NL where the vast majority of kids bike/walk independently to school by third grade. Schools there teach everyone how to ride a bike, navigate traffic, etc by the end of second grade. The scene in that video could not happen in the US because the kids would have to get off their bike to navigate the car drop off point and walk the last few blocks (with very little bike parking) and that bike lot would be the place where the car drop off is.
Let's hope the administration can prioritize more aggressive dismantling, and get congressional cooperation to actually shutter the fairly pointless department once and for all.
IT MUST BE DONE THE 'CORRECT' WAY!
"Home Depot Inc. cut its full-year earnings guidance, warning that some unsteady consumers are hitting the pause button on big-ticket home purchases"
"Unsteady" customers? I have seen these at bars and casinos but seldom at Home Depot.
"Unsteady" customers? I have seen these at bars and casinos but seldom at Home Depot.
You never met my Shop teacher in high school.
unsteady consumers are the ones Home Depot can't get its signal lock on
'President Donald Trump told an ABC reporter that his network's license should be revoked after the reporter asked him a probing question about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.'
Did the reporter need emotional counseling in a safe space?
Seditious activities promoted by a sitting Democrat Senator.
https://x.com/senatorslotkin/status/1990774492356902948?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
It’s part of the color revolution playbook.
https://x.com/datarepublican/status/1990916530507497950?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
Step 6: Security-service fracture: defections among police, military, or intelligence eliminate the regime’s enforcement capability.
Steps 1-3:
https://x.com/datarepublican/status/1991162414721823030?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
Total overthrow of the US enlightenment-based government and society or nothing!
Maybe the fucking democrats can run General Milley as AOC’s VP next time, to show their seriousness.
Of course he’d be taking a pay cut.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-15/jpmorgan-hires-retired-general-mark-milley-as-senior-adviser
The comments on the thread are epic.
As goes New York as goes Chicago.
https://x.com/secduffy/status/1990939756666994994?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
From the Sun-Times:
https://x.com/suntimes/status/1990874225297535398?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
It's okay. He just set her on fire on her outside. He didn't set the fire off inside her... and he may have felt sorry afterwards. - cumjeff criminal apologist
cumjeff criminal apologist
Funny
Pfffffft. More culture war bullshit. Trains are awesome. MAGA would rather destroy the planet with their SUVs than be set on fire on a train.
Selfish bastards.
"students are nearly eight times more likely to die in a passenger car than in a school bus per mile driven."
Relatedly, eggs are 12 times more likely to be cracked accidentally when sold individually rather than by the dozen.
Physicists and statisticians have yet to explain how rolls and other baked goods are 14 times more likely to be dropped when sold individually rather than in groups of 13.
The proletariat is 31.416% more likely to contract salmonella from chicken than their daily allotment of MyBugz.
Yeah, my bad, "eggs are 12 times more likely to be cracked accidentally when sold individually rather than by the dozen per omelette".
The ED is only "useless" if you think students should have not any rights, red states should be allowed to massively under fund schools, children with special needs should not be educated, and only the rich should go to college.
The DoEd hasn’t done shit for students other than falling behind in math, reading, and science since it became a cabinet level post in 1979. If you’re a real libertarian, Dr. Retard, then you should cheer the end of the DoEd.
Cool story, bro.
MG, OTOH, is pretty much totally useless. Fuck off and die, asswipe.
"and only the rich should go to college."
I think if given the choice of University, as it was before, where the children of nobles (and later, the upper middle to upper classes) would go and pursue sometimes useful things, sometimes not, but it was substantially more affordable overall vs...
Adult day care where everyone is expected to go, subsidized by the govt, paid for by tax payers, causing costs to astronomically increase many times, leaving the majority of students with degrees in useless fields that have no job futures and 100s of thousands of dollars of crippling debt....
I think everyone, including the people who got fleeced, would vote for the former system, and it probably needs to come back.
Frankly, the only person who should be majoring in BIPOC interpretative dance studies is absolutely the spoiled useless son/daughter/they-by of a rich person, and literally no one else. You make a great argument
The ED is only "useless" if you think students should have not any rights,
In reality the "ED" restricts students rights - especially for Due Process and Non-discrimination - through their illegitimately issued Dear Colleague weaponizing Title IX.
Kill yourself.
Rights apply to everyone, not specific subgroups. Where federally enforceable rights apply, that's the job of the Justice dept.
Speaking of school insanity, I regularly see teenagers at the bus stop - with a parent in a car watching over them. I live in a moderately rural area too.
I regularly see teenagers at the bus stop - with a parent in a car watching over them.
Are you in the car or the bushes? 🙂
"with a parent in a car watching over them"
Ya, thats weird. Either hang out and have a convo (what I would do if my kid rode the bus) or just go back to bed or work or something. Watching from the car is weird helicopter soy shit
I slow down as I drive past the bus stop, so my kids can combat roll from the truck. That way I don't have to worry about parking.
Slow down?
Gay.
But buses are no longer the way parents seek to get children to school, seemingly due to fears about school bus safety. This is irrational, writes de Boer, since "students are nearly eight times more likely to die in a passenger car than in a school bus per mile driven."
"School bus safety" in this context means safety from bullying by other students, no one is driving because they think buses are going to have fatal accidents. This is a completely bizarre take.
Further this assertion that parents avoid buses due to safety concerns is not supported in neither the article Liz cites nor the article that article cites as inspiration. I strongly suspect safety would not be the primary concern, which would instead be convenience. Around me school bus routes routinely take over an hour, when combined with wait times this represents a significant waste for kids whose time is already squeezed by incessant but busywork level homework and ever-expanding extracurricular activities.
As such these articles seem to misunderstand the problem specifically so the authors can sneer at the unenlightened rubes thereby displaying their own superiority.
"School bus safety" in this context means safety from bullying by other students, no one is driving because they think buses are going to have fatal accidents. This is a completely bizarre take.
There's also, akin to what others have pointed out, the very libertarian/free market/closed control loop/moral hazard of bus drivers hitting kids who aren't (yet) passengers who suffer no culpability while a parent incurs any such costs directly at both ends.
Locally, on more than one occasion, bus drivers have done their level best push up the "miles traveled" part of the statistic by getting lost on routes that have the same water tower visible along the entire route. If it weren't for lack of sidewalks along two major highways and the convenience of kids showing up at home of "their own accord", we wouldn't (and don't) use the bus.
"the very libertarian/free market/closed control loop/moral hazard of bus drivers hitting kids who aren't (yet) passengers who suffer no culpability"
We take our kids to school, because we can, and we like it (mostly my wife, but I like to when I can). There is literally no world where we get into a car accident on the way to school, 1 trip among 1000s that we drive the kids around in the car, and me or my wife go "I wish the kids took the bus", but we are those weird people who believe in personal responsibility and such.
However in the reverse scenario where my child gets beat down by a group of thugs, or the bus crashes, I would have had significant regret for not just driving the kid myself, if I could have
Been a long time but sometimes spending time with my kid going to school was the best part of my day.
It absolutely is. My kids sing along to the music I have on just like I used to do with my dad when we were little, and the older one tells me about her day. I sip my coffee. It is one of my favorite parts of the day when I get to do it.
My kids sing along to the music I have on just like I used to do with my dad when we were little, and the older one tells me about her day. I sip my coffee. It is one of my favorite parts of the day when I get to do it.
My oldest started taking the bus again, but that's because it's 150 mi. for him to get to school. He books his own tickets and we reimburse him. Picking him up for Thanksgiving/Fall Break this weekend. He's the best at the "Who is it?" [Name the song title and artist] game.
Ya, its a pretty retarded take, with many issues.
As you say, the primary reason is that some districts have horrible kids (who have horrible parents) and weve all seen the videos of what they do on the bus. Its a behavior/fighting/bullying thing, not a transit safety issue, and it seems they pretended it was that so the article could happen at all, which is just dumb.
Further, the stats are an average of everyone. Its averaging me, an excellently skilled, observant, careful driver with above average reflexes and reaction time, with the drunks, the distracted, old people who cant see, and asian women. I am at substantially less risk than the average driver, as an excellent defensive driver. Also our SUV is a fucking tank of a beast machine, as it my truck. The average person would also be at higher risk of getting mugged in a city, compared to me a large man in great shape who carries.
The reasoning applied is pretty elementary level
>>which would instead be convenience.
no person either in the lines of mom-driven SUVs or stuck in traffic because a lane was lost to the SUVs is convenienced.
The real risk is not walking to school and becoming a little lard ass and then dying young from heart disease.
Are you on that list, Shrike?
https://x.com/jameshartline/status/1991036771250155948?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
I'm glad the right and centre has adopted the left's tactics. No, really.
A century of playing by Marquess of Queensbury rules while the other side used a machinegun has destroyed the West.
>>'I want my kid to be safe so I'm going to be putting them in the car a couple extra times a day' is the height of irrationality."
yes. repeal the 19th
>>Twice a day, my immediate neighborhood is consumed by the school car pickup line problem
no, once a day it is the drop off line problem. south to drop off north to pick up let's get it right next time.
is there anything above about six elected officials calling for open revolt by the military yesterday?
Just in the items I posted above. It’s all over X.
Why did it even occur to them to make such a statement?
you'd think the astronaut would know better lolwtf
They’re trying to forment a color revolution by having the police, military, and intelligence ignore orders.
and gracias for posting.
I'm so old I remember when Dems and left wingers pretended they thought insurrections were bad.
“Oh, Marshal, I'm surprised at you. You should know that insurrection is always legal in the first person, such as "our insurrection ." It is only in the third person - "their insurrection" - that it is illegal.”
Paraphrased from Ben Franklin in “1776”.
>>President Donald Trump told an ABC reporter that his network's license should be revoked after the reporter asked him a probing question about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.
evidence exists T believed ABC's license should be revoked long before a reporter asked him a probing question about Epstein
Remember NBC, ABC, and CBS knew that Epstein was raping children... and then decided to cover it up.
Remember, CBS News fired a female staffer because she may have helped leak the tape of another female reporter railing against ABC for spiking the Epstein story for three years
NBC, ABC and CBS News have all run cover for some of the world’s most powerful rape rings.
ABC: Killed the Epstein story in 2016 to cover for the Clintons.
CBS: Fired a woman for privately dissing ABC for killing the Epstein story.
NBC: Killed the Harvey Weinstein story. And protected Matt Lauer.
^^
>>Inside the Hollywood cancellation of Dasha Nekrasova.
no idea who that is but I did see Lucy Luibot bitching about Hollywood racism because they didn't give her the lead in the Color Purple re-fire or something
eidt: oh I see she fondled Fuentes' sack on a podcast too. don't do stupid shit, don't lose your backing.
>>Department of Useless
close the conformity factories.
also was kinda hoping this of all places would address whether sex with 15 year-olds counts as pedo lol
Depends if their (D) or (R).
Your daughter saying you were always trying to shower with her when she was a teen, and hours of video of you sniffing and fondling kids, but a (D)? No pedo.
Banning a pedo from your club, ratting on him to the FBI, and the pedo's victims saying you were never a part of it, but you're an (R)? Total pedo.
exactly. don't even start with the pizza place lol.
What, Pedosta..er..Podesta’s hangout?
Well, I'll stick my neck out and address it. In general the answer is no. Attraction to sexually mature teens is not pedophilia. There's another word for it that eludes me at the moment. It is, in my opinion appropriately, a social taboo and illegal for an adult. But not pathological and horrific in the same way as actual pedophilia (i.e. sexual desire/activity for pre-pubescent children) is.
I still don't like it and think there are a lot of girls still not physically ready for that at age 15. That said I don't think it's pedophilia like assaulting a pre-pubescent.
I still don't like it and think there are a lot of girls still not physically ready for that at age 15.
I would've said mentally. Given the rise of the Karens and Cat Ladies, 15 is wildly optimistic.
If we can't repeal the 19th, post-menopausal voting, and then post-wall voting should be the next proposals ready to pull of the shelf.
Well, none of them are ready mentally.
gracias. mho it was fine when I was 15 ... even 17 ... but not 18
and I do understand the Megyn Kelly 15 is not 8! thing but as a specific v. general argument I wonder what most would think about a 40 year-old man on their 15 y.o.
Yeah I think that's right. Sweet little sixteen and the dancing queen only seventeen were a pretty obvious cultural admission that the attraction to young women is pretty normal. The male of the species is attracted to fertile young women by pure instinct. Age of consent laws in the not too distant past were much younger than they are today. I think teenage girls should absolutely not be involved with adult men and any adult man persuing them needs a good ass whipping preferably by fathers and brothers and uncles. But to conflate attraction to a developed 16 year old with a prepubescent 9 year old is just dishonest.
" I think teenage girls should absolutely not be involved with adult men and any adult man persuing them needs a good ass whipping preferably by fathers and brothers and uncles."
And aside from that, if a teen girl is involved in such a situation, its almost certainly a result of earlier or ongoing abuse, coercion, and will almost certainly result in fucking up her mental health for the rest of her life.
Or neglect. I have a few female friends who were like that as teens and at least in those cases it was more of a lack of parental involvement or positive role models.
"Attraction to sexually mature teens is not pedophilia. There's another word for it that eludes me at the moment."
I believe 'jailbait' is what you are looking for.
Ya, its clearly 2 different things. I personally find both things gross, but one of the things is clearly substantially more gross and weird than the other, and fully evil.
"Ephebophilia" is the word I was looking for, I think. "Jail bait" is more when an underage girl misrepresents her age or is forward about trying to have sex with older men.
*slight disagreement*
Frequently, especially for (adult-ish) women, these are teachers.
Especially for older men and women there's a pretty pathological impulse control issue going on.
Particularly critical for both is the dishonesty and subversion that's essentially identical to grooming. A random pedophile luring kids stupid enough to get into his white van is pretty bad, but also pretty rare, but a publicly-employed, union-backed, teacher sexing the kids she's supposed to be teaching math to isn't exactly better or less messy.
Can agree that it's an actual spectrum, thus "Half your age plus 7" (and similar) norms.
>>... the dishonesty and subversion that's essentially identical to grooming.
I feel like even trying to date someone in the half/7 world would be grooming idk if I could do it
>>... the dishonesty and subversion that's essentially identical to grooming.
I feel like even trying to date someone in the half/7 world would be grooming idk if I could do it
30 doesn't seem too weird. Under 30 probably would at this point.
Who the heck decided on that half your age plus seven rule anyway? It sounds like some sort of rule designed for mate suppression, which is something women engage in.
Doesn't seem like you are disagreeing. More talking about something else that I didn't address.
I would agree that 40 year olds working it to bang 18 year old girls is probably some kind of pathology. But the basic attraction isn't pathological, and that's all I was trying to say.
"whether sex with 15 year-olds counts as pedo lol"
Statutory pedophilia is the term you're looking for. In the hills of Northern Vietnam, there are many 15 year olds who are married with children.
"Look at the decline in population for young children (under age 5) in major cities from 2005 to 2024
This is catastrophic"
The future belongs to those who show up for it.
This is bullshit. The problem is schools refusing to let kids walk any more. Compound that with the school boards refusing to bus children that live closer to the school, parents must drive their kids a quarter of a mile, or less, even just across the street.
So in Summary....
Congress will FIGHT to keep the $32 billion THEFT of citizens alive...