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History

America Is in a Golden Age. Are We Headed Toward a Roman Ending?

"Once you have an ever-expanding system of entitlements that you can't afford, that's often the beginning of the decline and fall," says historian Johan Norberg.

John Stossel | 11.19.2025 1:35 PM

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We media types obsess about America's problems.

But we should acknowledge that today, life in America is better than life has been anywhere, ever.

For most of history, the norm was hunger, disease, illiteracy, slavery, and war.

There were a few exceptions (from some of those problems)—so-called golden ages, Ancient Athens, Rome, the Renaissance, etc.

In our new video, historian Johan Norberg, author of the new book Peak Human, looks at the miracle of the Roman Empire, which at one point extended throughout most of Europe, and parts of Africa and Asia.

Ancient Rome inspired our form of government, a republic with a system of checks and balances.

"There is a reason why we have a Senate and they meet in the Capitol," explains Norberg. "We borrow these ideas from the Romans."

The Romans were ferocious warriors, but so were many at the time. The Romans were able to create an empire because they tried new things.

"They gave people among the subjected the ability to have a second career in Rome," says Norberg. "They made them citizens and allowed them to do business, to have a career in the military. Some of the subjected people could even end up being emperors!"

"The conquered—some became emperors?" I ask.

"The son of a freed slave eventually ended up on the throne of Rome. That tells you something about the power of meritocracy and of openness. You'll get the best brains if you're open to more people."

Rome thrived because the Romans took ideas and talent from all over the world.

They didn't do it to be kind.

"Tolerance was a weapon, often literally a weapon," Norberg explains. "They got their swords from the Spaniards, ships from Carthage, new business models from other groups. Because Rome was such a huge integrated free trade area, you could source the best material, the best technology from any part of the empire. Therefore, they could become the masters of the world."

Of course, eventually, Rome fell.

There were many reasons. Disease, barbarian invaders, and one reason that modern societies should fear: entitlement spending.

Norberg says Rome collapsed because of: "bread and circuses. The emperors wanted to become popular by handing out free stuff to people. Originally, this started small. You just handed the very poor means of subsistence. But it was popular, so the group that lived on the public's expense grew larger all the time. Emperors complained about this. Everyone from Caesar and onwards said, 'We've got to reform this system because it means that we have fewer people working and more people consuming.' But no one succeeded."

It reminds me of the unsustainable promises we see today: Social Security and Medicare in the U.S., absurd retirement promises in other countries—welfare plans going broke.

"Once you have an ever-expanding system of entitlements that you can't afford," says Norberg, "that's often the beginning of the decline and fall.…Romans could conquer the world, but they couldn't do entitlement reform."

Instead, Roman emperors did what modern governments do: printed more money.

Actually, since they used coins, not paper money, they devalued their currency by putting less gold and silver in each coin.

"Inflation was much worse than barbarian invaders," says Norberg. "The emperor blamed greedy businessmen—something that we hear today. He imposed price controls on 1,000 goods. But obviously, it all failed. Prices kept rising and undermined the Roman Empire completely."

Today, America is one of the richest and most inventive countries in the world. Will our "golden age" continue?

"One of the most worrying signs in history is you begin to take wealth and comfort for granted," says Norberg. "You forget what made it possible to begin with. I see a lot of worrying signs right now. We have a backlash against things that keep our society innovative, like trade, migration, unsustainable debts….But that doesn't mean that we're doomed…It's not automatic, this decline and fall phase. You can unleash new waves of innovation and progress. There is still time. We can still save this golden age."

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  1. Quicktown Brix   2 hours ago

    Well, at least Canada isn't teaming with restless German tribes. We have that going for us.

    **checks last name** Oh crap. They're already here.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 hours ago

      Many other restless tribes are here as well.

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      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   23 minutes ago

        We desperately need to purge our Marxists.

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  2. Chumby   2 hours ago

    The US passed the Golden Age and is currently in the Age of Decadence. For all previous empires, what follows is decline. The $38T debt suggests this is an irreversible process.

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    1. SQRLSY   2 hours ago

      If only we could CASH IN on the endless founts of hatreds and xenophobia of Scumby the Scummy Chimp-Chump and Shit's endless armies of fellow-travelers, and Servants, Serpents, and Slurp-Pants of the Evil One, we would NEVER run out of resources!!!

      Sad to say, history does SNOT show us ANY examples of long-term successes built upon hatreds and xenophobia!!! Twat cums around, goes around!

      (WHEN will humans EVER learn this, and learn it correctly?)

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      1. Chumby   1 hour ago

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    2. Eeyore   2 hours ago

      We are in the blue hair age. Next up is the alopecia age.

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  3. SQRLSY   2 hours ago

    Orange Caligula is ON these problems!!! Pogrom-programs against the illegal sub-humans and always MORE AND MORE tariff-taxes will SOLVE these problems!!!

    (Rome fell because they were SOOOO stupid ass to believe in meritocracy, and allowed ex-slave illegal sub-humans to becum Emperors, is twat I hear from Our Dear Orange Caligula!)

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    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 hours ago

      Alec Baldwin, is that you?

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      1. Chumby   1 hour ago

        Alec has far greater emotional control and maturity than SSqrlsy.

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  4. Stupid Government Tricks   2 hours ago

    The US is roaring down the road, and somewhere up ahead is a runaway truck off ramp. We don't know how far ahead it is.

    1. If we roar on past, a fiscal reality cliff is the next hazard. Hyperinflation? Bankruptcy and no more borrowing? No one knows.

    2. We could take the emergency off ramp, bust up the suspension, flatten some tires, maybe even knock the truck on its side. It would be one helluva shock, but probably survivable, and the truck might be repairable, or we might have to hitchhike home.

    3. Or someone could recognize the emergency off-ramp in time to cut spending and slow down enough to stay on the road.

    My guess is some combination of 2 and 3. We've got too much momentum and history to easily cut spending, but cutting some of it would make the emergency off-ramp more survivable.

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    1. Eeyore   2 hours ago

      USD 2.0

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    2. Rossami   2 hours ago

      I fear that we're already past option 3.

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    3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   18 minutes ago

      If you want to cut spending then there can be no more democrat party, and the Marxist smuts be purged. Because it can’t happen until they’re gone.

      It needs to happen, now.

      Case closed.

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  5. Eeyore   2 hours ago

    John Galt will get the blame when the American experiment finally comes to an end.

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    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 hours ago

      Who is John Galt?

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  6. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 hours ago

    "We have a backlash against things that keep our society innovative,"

    I would put individual and private property rights at the top of the list.

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  7. docduracoat   2 hours ago

    Where to start with this drivel?
    Yes, the Emperor’s debased the coinage.
    That is not why the Roman Empire fell.
    There was unlimited illegal immigration of Germanic tribes that exceeded the empire’s ability to absorb them.
    The Goths were driven into the empire by the expanding Huns.
    The mal treatment of the Goths by Roman officials, including the enslavement of Gothic children in exchange for dog meat for the people to eat was the last straw.
    The Gothic wars ended with the death of the Emperor Valens and the Goths were given Thessaly inside the empire.
    Gothic troops then fought as allies of the Roman army- but as Gothic units, using Gothic ways of war.
    Later Gothic commanders revolted against the waste of these troops which eventually led to Odoacer deposing the last Roman Emperor. Romulus Augustulus

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    1. Sam Bankman-Fried   1 hour ago

      The dollar was weakest in 2008 when we were engaged in two asinine wars and importing massive quantities of oil and about to import natural gas from Qatar. Fortunately Obama defeated the vile McStain and during the same years American frackers exceeded their wildest expectations. Thanks to the leadership of Obama and Trump and Biden we are stronger than we’ve been since the 1990s…but Trump’s erratic behavior in his second term could undermine all of the progress we’ve made since the 2008 low point.

      Also, illegal immigrants helped deliver a record number of apartments and hotel rooms in 2023/24…that’s good for America!

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  8. Square = Circle   1 hour ago

    All of these USA=Rome analyses flounder in failing to make any distinction between the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire.

    They are not the same thing.

    The "golden age" that Stossel is referring to is the golden age of the Empire, i.e. the second century AD, and the "fall" that he's talking about is the fall of the (Western) Empire.

    If we're mapping our history onto Roman history, we are no ways near that. Like, no ways near.

    We are more roughly in something like the post-Punic Wars period where we have suddenly emerged as a world power and our republican ideals are proving incompatible with the management of an empire. We are not yet formally an empire with an emperor, but we've been heading in that direction for a while. Trump is something more like a Gracchus than an Honorius, and the fact that he's in power rather than dead is a significant departure in our timelines.

    The fall of the Republic, which is likely imminent, will probably be followed by a period of relative domestic prosperity as we continue to drain the rest of the world in order to keep our underclass fed and non-belligerent.

    This was already happening in Caesar's time - i.e. the daily bread, a Roman citizen's right to be fed by the government. The "Fall of the Empire" didn't happen until literally centuries after this program was instituted.

    Further, following Gibbon, we still have this tendency to think of the collapse of Roman power structures in England, France and Spain as the "Fall of the Empire," ignoring that the Roman power structure had moved east to Constantinople precisely because of the relative irrelevance of England, France and Spain, all of which were drains on resources to try to maintain control over. The Empire continued another thousand years after the sack of Rome, which hadn't been the capital even symbolically in a century.

    To be clear: I'm not advocating anything other than the acknowledgement that "are we about to fall just like Rome?" is a dumb question that doesn't have a relevant answer.

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    1. Sam Bankman-Fried   25 minutes ago

      Bush stealing the 2000 election and then failing to prevent 9/11 and then invading Iraq while mismanaging Afghanistan all the while shipping millions of manufacturing jobs to China is clearly the inflection point.

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      1. Square = Circle   7 minutes ago

        If you mean the inflection point on the way to Empire, I'd have gone with the Spanish-American War and the accidental conquest of the Philippines.

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  9. psmoot   51 minutes ago

    If you want to depress and scare yourself more, read "The Storm Before the Storm" by Mike Duncan. He goes into how the generation before Julius Caesar eroded unwritten norms which were critical to the operation of a epublic. It's scarily similar to the last decade.

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    1. Square = Circle   26 minutes ago

      Unwritten norms like "don't declare yourself dictator and murder your political enemies?"

      Note that, per my point above, this period you're talking about is roughly 250 years prior to the golden age of the Roman Empire that Stossel is talking about.

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  10. aronofskyd   25 minutes ago

    We're not Rome, which required a slave economy to function. We can afford every government benefit Americans currently receive if several things happen. First, tax all income from wages and investments to pay for social security. Second, go to a single payer health care system funded the same way medicare is funded now. Third, eliminate deficit spending but declare the national debt in default and refinance it with interest only payments for the next 100 years. Fourth, fix the tax code by changing the rates to what people should actually pay based on all income and eliminate most deductions and credits except for child care.

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    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   21 minutes ago

      Yesh, that’s stupid.

      Next!

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    2. Sam Bankman-Fried   13 minutes ago

      This century has been a slow motion train wreck beginning with Bush stealing the 2000 election. To have one of our two major political parties diarrhea the bed after eating street food in Delhi the way Republicans have could never have been predicted after having two great presidents in Reagan and Clinton along with two above average in Carter and Bush Sr.

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