Trump Is Right: That BBC Documentary Misquoted Him
His lawsuit against the BBC is likely frivolous, however.
Fresh off his legal victories over several U.S. media companies, President Donald Trump has now set his sights on the British Broadcasting Company (BBC). Trump has threatened to file a billion-dollar lawsuit against the BBC for allegedly defaming him.
You are reading Free Media from Robby Soave and Reason. Get more of Robby's on-the-media, disinformation, and free speech coverage.
For a variety of reasons, the prospect of Trump winning such a lawsuit is extremely doubtful. But not for nothing, the BBC clearly made a mistake, and should apologize and correct it.
Here's what happened: The BBC aired an episode of its program Panorama that included coverage of Trump's speech to his followers at the Ellipse in Washington, D.C., on the afternoon of January 6, 2021. The BBC aired only a few seconds of his hour-long speech, and included the part where Trump said: "We're going to walk down to the Capitol and I'll be there with you…and we fight. We fight like hell."
Unfortunately, that was a bad edit. In actuality, Trump said the first part, "we're going to walk down to the Capitol" and "I'll be there with you," about 54 minutes before he said that second part, "and we fight. We fight like hell." For a closer look at the differences, The Guardian has a useful side-by-side video.
Journalists often shorten quotes in order to save time, though the intention should never be to alter the meaning of what the quoted person was saying. In this case, the edit is definitely problematic. By moving up the "we fight like hell" clause, the BBC made it sound like Trump's very specific call to walk to the Capitol also included a call to "fight like hell," which could be understood as a call for violence.
This meaningfully alters what Trump had said, in a manner that comes much closer to meeting the legal definition of incitement. As Reason's Jacob Sullum has explained, speech that merely advocates lawlessness is protected by the First Amendment unless it is likely to provoke lawless action and is also "directed" at achieving such a result. Trump's instructions to the January 6 mob may have been reckless and unwise, but he did not direct his followers to engage in lawless action—indeed, he said they should march "peacefully and patriotically." Juxtaposing the "fight" clause so that it is uttered right after his call to march has the effect of making Trump's comments much more sinister.
Given that the U.S. House of Representatives impeached Trump for inciting an insurrection—the Senate acquitted him—editing the speech in this manner was a highly relevant error. Note also that the edit was seamless—too seamless, really. If the BBC had spliced the clips together but displayed time stamps that explained these two remarks actually did not occur back-to-back, the outlet could have covered itself. But no one casually watching the documentary would have noticed that 54-minute jump forward in time.
The BBC should apologize and fix the error. It should not have to shell out a billion dollars, however.
For one thing, Trump has threatened to bring the suit in Florida rather than the U.K., since the statute of limitations has already expired in the latter venue. According to The New York Times, however, it's not clear whether the documentary ever aired in the U.S. Moreover, libel law in the U.S. is friendlier to the defendant than laws in the U.K., owing to our stronger First Amendment protections. Trump would have to demonstrate "actual malice," which would mean proving not just that the BBC made a mistake, but that the mistake stemmed from a conscious desire to wrongly harm him or a recklessness so pathological that harm should have been anticipated. In other words, the wrongness has to have been deliberate, or effectively deliberate. Lastly, Trump would have to show that his reputation actually suffered as a result.
Those are high bars to clear, and rightly so. Media outlets should not be sued out of existence every time a political figure is mad at them. But when journalists make mistakes, as they did in this case, they should own up to it.
This Week on Free Media
I am joined by Amber Duke to discuss Candace Owens, 50-year mortgages, and whether Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.) is going to run against Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.). Subscribe to Free Media on YouTube!
Worth Watching
I finally finished Donkey Kong Bananza, which has a rather thrilling final act. I won't spoil it, in case there are any huge Donkey Kong fans reading this who have yet to play it (which seems unlikely, but you never know).
Editor's Note: As of February 29, 2024, commenting privileges on reason.com posts are limited to Reason Plus subscribers. Past commenters are grandfathered in for a temporary period. Subscribe here to preserve your ability to comment. Your Reason Plus subscription also gives you an ad-free version of reason.com, along with full access to the digital edition and archives of Reason magazine. We request that comments be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of reason.com or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment and ban commenters for any reason at any time. Comments may only be edited within 5 minutes of posting. Report abuses.
Please to post comments
Frivolous? Lol.
There is no Sullivan v NYT in the UK, they have some serious libel consequences
Should have continued reading.
Also Lol @ “misquoting “
Thats what I laughed at. Move a sentence from an hour before to after the end of his speech. Just a slight misquote.
It wasn't a 'bad edit'.
It was a deliberate splice at the exact point to make it appear that those words came right after his first statement.
And, for it, the BBC should burn.
Yeah Robby desperately tries to make the case that this just maybe was some kind of oversight. It's obvious to anyone who watched the clip that this was actual malice. But journalists are super special and tiny minds like Robby's think they can get us to ignore our own lying eyes. Remember Robby, instead of making an ass of yourself you have the right to remain silent.
"Unfortunately, that was a bad edit."
And the george floyd riots were "mostly peaceful" because only a quarter of the rioters set stores on fire and looted, the other three quarters of them just stood around recording it on their cellphones...
No, it was an intentionally malicious edit - they didnt just "edit out" 56 minutes of his speech due to time constraints.
Do they need to apologize? Yes, bigly. Do they need to terminate everyone involved in approving that edit? Absolutely. They literally broadcast a lie, a big, big lie, on an important topic and can not just slide by saying, "oopsie".
Lets not forget, this program was broadcast on a network OWNED by the UK government, and if the UK is going to lock people up for posting things they don't like, they can ABSOLUTELY be held to a higher standard than most people.
Soon to be Truth Social tv network, if the Alex Jones case provided a guide for damages.
Is there any level of lie sold by reporters that you wouldn't defend? Editing for a concise answer is one thing but editing to say something different is lying, and here a fraud on the public. If you defend this, and calling a suit frivolous is defending it, I must ask what knowing lies have you peddled as truth?
It was an honest mistake, they do this stuff all the time and never been sued before. It's only because of Trump that this is a big deal since he sues everyone.
Journalists often shorten quotes in order to save time, though the intention should never be to alter the meaning of what the quoted person was saying.
Was it Katie Couric who edited in a long pause when asking her "gotcha" question to make it look like her interview subject didn't know how to answer, as if they had something to hide? That was just as deliberate and just as misleading, and should have been just as actionable, based entirely on the fact that she altered the recording on purpose.
Yup, and it was to make pro-gun people look stupid.
When I was a kid, if a news broadcast got something this wrong, (figuratively) heads rolled. Now, the journalists all circle the wagons and defend/excuse each other's lies: "Unfortunately, that was a bad edit."
Seriously?
Yeah, this was not journalism. It was bad propaganda.
And the new DK game looks quite good. But I am just not finding a reason to get the Switch 2.
I don't know about frivolous. What the BBC did was pretty damn egregious, and I can only conclude done with malice.
Robby should have discussed the BBC more generally. The Trump splice was referenced in a BBC report which found what we all know, the BBC routinely violates its own standards in order to promote political preferences it supports and attack those it doesn't. Regarding Israel for example the BBC has had to issue more than 200 corrections for reports since the Oct 7 terrorism attacks by Palestinians, more than two every week. Every single error favored Hamas.
This provides quite the evidence these are reckless and intentional. If there was even the barest effort at professionalism there would be at least some distribution of these errors.
You must be lying. The BBC is the most accredited and honest news agency in the world, just ask them.
His lawsuit against the BBC is likely frivolous, however.
Robby's got to say that because CATO and Reason have probably done worse in the last eight years.
Plus, there are cocktail party invites to consider .
>>cocktail
different type of party now.
Reason cocktail party,
ENB: Did you hear about those crazies trying to ban choking? That's really over the top.
Liz: I know right?
ENB: Jacob wrote a draft article about it. There's a Trump angle there somewhere.
Liz: JS;dr. Been too busy surfin.
ENB: Oh fuck. Here comes Robby.
Liz: I know right? Ever since he came out... as a conservative, he's been insufferable.
Robby: Hello ladies. Have you tried the vodka martini? The shit's like 300 bucks a bottle.
Liz: I'm nursing so I don't want to get carried away.
Robby: Okay. Did you see the BBC article I mailed in?
ENB: Yeah you totally nailed it. Trump is such a crybaby.
Liz: And he like hung out with Epstein and shit.
Robby: I'm convinced that he gang raped Blasey-Ford with Kavanaugh but I can't find a reliable source. Anyway gotta grab my brown envelope. See ya later.
ENB: He's such an ass.
Liz: I know right?
He’s providing hope for Petti’s op-ed yesterday.
>>His lawsuit against the BBC is likely frivolous, however.
Counsel for ABC on line 1, CBS on line 2, Des Moines Register on line 3 ...
Now do Vi
rginia Giuffrectim.The specific quotes are not really that relevant in the big picture. Trump did spearhead an illegal multiweek attempted coup which culminated in a violent attack on the Capital building.
I also dare Trump to sue the BBC. The stuff we would get from discovery would be very damaging to Trump.
This is so tiresome, not even putting any effort into it
I know. I am also tired of MAGAs trying to convince us that what we saw on live on TV for months was fake.
There was no coup.
Trump had nothing to do with the riot at the Capitol.
Did Putin send KGB agents to help Trump with his coup?
You forgot to mention all the cops killed with fire extinguishers.
What about the pipe bomb placed by Gavin McInnes.
Illegal like what democrats did in Hawaii in 1960? What about in the 1800s?
Lies and Dishonesty is what [D]emon-rat are made of.
What did anyone expect to come from people who think Gov-'Guns' is how you ?make?(STEAL) a living?
But not for nothing, the BBC clearly made a mistake, and should apologize and correct it.
"A mistake."
Unfortunately, that was a bad edit.
"An edit."
Journalists often shorten quotes in order to save time
"Journalists."
Trump's instructions to the January 6 mob may have been reckless and unwise
His fault!
Note also that the edit was seamless—too seamless, really.
I thought you said it was a mistake. A bad edit.
The BBC should apologize and fix the error. It should not have to shell out a billion dollars, however.
Yea, actually, maybe it should. As a real kick in the face to the "journalists" who make "mistakes" and do "bad edits."
https://x.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1579651858901393408
But not for nothing, the BBC clearly made a mistake, and should apologize and correct it.
You're too kind, Robby. They didn't make a "mistake", they deliberately falsified the news. Penises did not find their way into vaginas, coffee cups were not negligently placed on tables without coasters... this was a deliberate, aggressive action by BBC news personnel.
Trump's instructions to the January 6 mob may have been reckless and unwise
So, the world is a little flat... shaped like a loaf of Wonderbread. It's round-ish at the edges and corners... but it's not round-round...
"The BBC should apologize and fix the error. It should not have to shell out a billion dollars, however."
Considering that the Left in America along with everyone else who has decided to blindly hate Trump has used that speech to blame Trump for the free-for-all at the Capitol that day and paint him as a King in waiting , he most certainly does have the right to go after ALL those who deliberately misquoted him or ignorantly ascribed to the speech THE most incriminating interpretation of what Trump actually said. I hope he bankrupts them all.