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Elections

Mamdani's Win Suggests a Socialist Future for Democrats and a Rocky One for American Politics

Many in the rising generation are embracing collectivist ideas.

J.D. Tuccille | 11.7.2025 7:00 AM

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New York City Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani addresses a crowd, behind a campaign sign that says "A New Era for New York City." | Andrew Schwartz/SIPA/Newscom
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After this week's election, many Americans cling to the hope that the victories of a couple of moderate-ish Democrats in blue states signal a future for that party different than the one heralded by the rock-star rise of Zohran Mamdani, the democratic socialist who captures the imaginations of a lot of donkey-party voters.

I wouldn't count on it. Yes, Abigail Spanberger and Mikie Sherrill offer a modicum of consolation to those desiring a centrist direction for Democrats, but the energy is behind the radical new mayor of Gotham who joins a rising tide of his comrades in dragging that party to the left. The future of American politics looks more fringe-y than ever.

"We will prove that there is no problem too large for government to solve and no concern too small for it to care about," Mamdani shouted in an aggressive speech that surprised even Democratic commentators such as David Axelrod and Van Jones. It was a message that young voters, in particular, seem to embrace.

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Socialism Wins the Youth Vote

"Mamdani won about 62% of the vote among New Yorkers under 30, and more than half among those aged 30 to 44," Spain's El Pais noted in an analysis of the election, which was followed around the world. "By contrast, among voters over 65, he drew just 29%."

If the taste for a candidate who has called for "seizing the means of production" could be dismissed as a New York City fetish, we might mourn the plight of a great city and go about our business. But socialism has a strong following among young people, despite its history of generating poverty and terror. Blame it on a mismatch between expectations and results in the tumultuous economy (largely from government intervention) of the last decade-plus or blame it on public education that valorizes top-down collectivized economics over the individualism and free exchange of capitalism, but socialism has a growing constituency among people who will shape the future.

In March, Gallup found that "since 2010, young adults' overall opinion of capitalism has deteriorated to the point that capitalism and socialism are tied in popularity among this age group." Among millennials and Gen Z, support for both stood at about 50 percent. But among the youngest in that cohort, socialism is winning out over its freedom-friendly rival.

Last week, polling by Axios/Generation Lab revealed that "34% of surveyed two- and four-year college students say they have a somewhat or very positive view of socialism, compared with 17% who say the same for capitalism. Negative views of capitalism outweigh negative views of socialism by an even greater difference: 53% v. 23%."

The rising generation is dragging the Democratic Party to the left. While pollster YouGov this week reports "moderates and conservatives strongly prefer capitalism to socialism," it found that "a majority of those who identify as very liberal prefer socialism (59%)" and liberals slightly prefer socialism to capitalism, 29 percent to 27 percent. While not really accurate terms for what's going on in U.S. politics now, "liberal" and "very liberal" are common descriptors for dominant factions in the Democratic Party.

And while Gallup in September found Americans' views of socialism generally unchanged in recent years, it added, "stability in U.S. adults' opinions of socialism obscures Democrats' more positive views of it over time, from 50% rating it positively in the initial 2010 reading to roughly two-thirds in three readings since 2019. Those increases have been mostly offset by declines in positive ratings of socialism among Republicans." Polarized in all things, American politics grow more divided over economic systems.

Speaking of polarization, it's worth mentioning what's happening on the right as the left pines for the promised land of free stuff and class warfare promised by Mamdani; his fellow New Yorker, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez; and the rest of the Democratic hard left. Radicalization is a game anybody can play.

Conservatives Wrangle With Groypers

Right now, Heritage Foundation president and embarrassment Kevin Roberts is in hot water for defending Tucker Carlson's cozy chat with racist Hitler/Stalin fan Nick Fuentes, whose influence is growing. (We should regret Charlie Kirk's assassination as much for his lost opposition to Fuentes as for all else.) Understandably, some staffers at the conservative think tank resigned in protest, and many others want Roberts out.

A conservative movement insider with insight into ongoing developments who spoke to me on background said young people on the right are a particular concern when it comes to radicalization. He worries about antisemitism among the younger cohort currently entering politics, many of whom he fears are groypers—racist Fuentes fans whom Roberts may have sought to court. We saw an example of that in last month's furor over racist chat messages among Young Republicans. My acquaintance attributes the problem to educations steeped in trendy Critical Race Theory. That education guided some students to the intersectional left, where they became enamored of socialism and identity politics. Others bought the collectivist focus on group identity but flipped the script on who makes up the good guys and the bad guys.

Antisemitism and a Rush to the Fringes

As seems to be common among collectivists of all breeds, both groups are antisemites.

Antisemitism is certainly a problem with Mamdani and company. Before he entered politics, Mamdani tried his hand as a rapper. His musical output included the song "Salaam," which, as The Independent put it, "praised the 'Holy Land Five'—five men convicted in 2008 of donating over $12 million to Hamas" which is dedicated to killing Jews and staged the October 7 attack on Israel. He has since palled around with Siraj Wahhaj, who was named as a co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

That's in case you didn't worry enough about the direction of politics.

And whatever consolation is to be found in the seeming moderation of some of this week's winning Democrats, that has to be tempered by the fact that taking office alongside newly minted Gov. Spanberger in Virginia is fellow Democrat Jay Jones—who, as a candidate for attorney general, fantasized about shooting a Republican political rival in the head and watching that rival's children die in their mother's arms. Spanberger criticized Jones's comments but never called on him to drop out.

The future of American politics looks increasingly like one where the worst ideas, including socialism, racism, and political violence are embraced by American voters. We're not far from the day when Americans face a contest between the likes of Paul Ingrassia, the Republican who withdrew from consideration as head of the Office of Special Counsel after the revelation of racist text messages and his self-description as having a "Nazi streak," and Graham Platner, the Democratic Maine Senate candidate who calls himself a communist and had a Nazi tattoo which he only covered up after it became a campaign liability.

The Democratic Party is becoming more socialist. That might not be the worst of our concerns.

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  1. 5.56   2 months ago

    After recent republican antics, social democracy is now firmly on the table in the us. Would have never thought that id see that.

    You will be fine guys, theres worse things than caring about others , i promise, conservatives. I know this will feel new and uncomfortable to you, but sharing and considering anything beyond your property lines is a thing that the entirety of Europe has been doing successfully for a while (on average smarter, happier, healthier, taller, better looking, higher life expectancy, more free time and starkly more educated than you). They even have drivable roads.

    1. The Mysterious Edwin Dunkel   2 months ago

      Parasites helping parasites to help themselves - to other people's stuff.

      1. 5.56   2 months ago

        Is that how the cockroaches see it? It wouldnt be surprising, one cannot expect them to understand advanced systems.

        1. JohnZ   2 months ago

          The only cockroaches are socialists.

          1. Quo Usque Tandem   2 months ago

            It’s a promise the moon chicanery that’s sold to the useful idiots to get themselves into power; once they’ve attained a threshold neither the promises nor the idiots will matter anymore.

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            This from a National Socialist? Fuck off and die, asswipe.

        2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          We understand everything far better than subnormal faggot trash, such as you and your fellow democrats.

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      1. 5.56   2 months ago

        A right-wing reject that is able to produce ascii art? Even able to replace characters with other characters, to label a bunch of pre-made ragdolls? You must be enjoying alpha status among the inviable, even be celebrated as a genius. Carry on. 😀 You have been outcompeted before signing up.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          The only thing you swallow more than Dem narratives is the Dems themselves, .22 short squib load. Carry on you failed progressive clinger.

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            1. Chumby   2 months ago

              WTF?!?!

              Hahahahaha.

              Another epic fail by the .22 shirt squib load.

              1. 5.56   2 months ago

                Get off your phone and get a PC with a wider screen you fucking under-resourced retard. Just zoom out buddy, you will see the bigger picture, I promise 😀 😀 😀

                1. Chumby   2 months ago

                  Tell me you’re a broken boomer without telling me you are a broken boomer, you bitter .22 short squib load.

              2. 5.56   2 months ago

                If your phone isn't from 1998, it could also help to just do landscape mode, but with you right wing caveshitters something like that is not a given...

                1. Chumby   2 months ago

                  Epic fucking fail by you, .22 short squib load. Hahahahahahahaha!

              3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                He’s trying to be you and failing miserably. 5.56 is a worthless faggot loser. Can’t even get ASCII right.

            2. 5.56   2 months ago

              Please pay attention to where the ###POUND### signs are 😀 (I'm being chumby, lmfao)

              1. Chumby   2 months ago

                The whole thing is fucked up like a weak ass boomer bitter clinger beyond its relevancy made it, .22 short squib load. Looks like that creepy KAR thing worked on it. And also disgusting as bestiality is illegal as animals don’t have agency. Carry on, bitter clinger .22 short squib load.

              2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

                The ‘pound’ sign is tattooed on your ass.

          2. 5.56   2 months ago

            Whatever you say buddy, LOL

            You guys have massive SKILL ISSUES and don't even know it lmao 😀 😀 😀

            1. Chumby   2 months ago

              .22 short squib load, keep projecting. Your FAIL above once again demonstrates your skill issues. Hahahahaha.

              1. 5.56   2 months ago

                lol youre really getting outpaced here, old man 😀

                1. Chumby   2 months ago

                  How long have you been into bestiality, .22 short squib load? The bitter progressive clingers have been fucking taxpayers, fucking productive people, so it makes sense you’d be into animals as well. Carry on, bitter .22 short squib load.

                2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

                  Hey fiddy, tell us again about the hot chick you’re banging, you sex machine, you.

                  That is like, soooo impressive. Lol.

        2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Chumby is just trying to communicate with you in a way you might possibly understand, since you’re a subnormal rabid Marxist.

          1. Chumby   2 months ago

            He a progressive mouthpiece, in more ways than one. A broken has-been/never was.

            1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

              He’s just angry and jealous he works for minimum wage cleaning the toilets for a wealthy conservative.

    3. JohnZ   2 months ago

      You must be seeing a different Europe because Europe under the socialist E.U. is failing and failing fast.
      Western European countries are over run by third world savages Germany's industrial output is sliding into oblivion, it's cities overrun with third world savages creating nogo zones much the same way in France, the U.K.( where it's perfectly legal to groom and rape thirteen year old girls), Sweden, nearly Islamic and the rest are all doomed.
      Europe is doomed.
      There's your socialism for ya.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        NYC is already on the same path with Islamists openly declaring their intention to take over city government and banish Jews. And when capital flees the economy will look like Germany's.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          "...and banish Jews."

          JohnZ is creaming his jeans!

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        "There's your socialism for ya."

        But National Socialism is just fine, right Nazi shit?

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Probably anything that gets rid of the Jews works for him.

    4. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      You commies always blame somebody else for your radicalism.

      "Look what you made us do!"

      1. AT   2 months ago

        Exactly. Exactly what I thought.

        10:1 says that 556 is that kind of guy that would break his wife's jaw with an aluminum bat (since his fists are too weak) while screaming, "I'm doing this because I care!"

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          More likely his boyfriend beats the shit out of him, then bottoms him.

    5. AT   2 months ago

      theres worse things than caring about others

      Do you care about MAGAs and Trump? Heck how about libertarians who just want to assert their individual rights to tell you to take a long walk off a short pier. Do you care about their health, safety, and welfare? Do you want what's best for them?

      Is there room for them in your oh-so-caring communist utopia? Out side of the slave pits, that is?

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Nope. Thats why he, and every one of his fellow travelers, have to go.

    6. Bruce D   2 months ago

      Europe has been doing successfully for a while (on average smarter, happier, healthier, taller, better looking, higher life expectancy, more free time and starkly more educated than you).

      Yeah? And they're a lot more white, too. If we compare U.S. non-Hispanic whites to Europeans there's no difference. The U.S. has a large third-world origin population that Europe does not have.

      1. You're Kidding   2 months ago

        You should compare California. All 40 million of them.

        27% of the population is foreign born. American values are in short supply. Makes it easy to support ICE if you were brought up middle class.

        I live in a city that has been identified as "one of the most racially diverse in the U.S."
        When I was at Costco this morning, I felt like a foreigner in my own homeland. English was definitely a second language. Diversity has two sides.

  2. Chumby   2 months ago

    Having govt steal from productive folks to help bolster the lifestyle of others is a populist movement amongst slavers.

    1. JohnZ   2 months ago

      First they take your bread, then they take your means of production, then they take you.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Damn Jews are to blame for everything, right, Nazi scum?

        1. You're Kidding   2 months ago

          You should compare California. All 40 million of them.

          27% of the population is foreign born. American values are in short supply. Makes it easy to support ICE if you were brought up middle class.

          I live in a city that has been identified as "one of the most racially diverse in the U.S."
          When I was at Costco this morning, I felt like a foreigner in my own homeland. English was definitely a second language. Diversity is multifaceted.

  3. 5.56   2 months ago

    "A conservative movement insider with insight into ongoing developments who spoke to me on background said young people on the right are a particular concern when it comes to radicalization"

    They are of no concern to modern, advanced, competitive, educated, progressing, persistent, better americans, and they are generally not selected by the majority of young, attractive, high quality, highly coveted, liberal women who have long moved on from right wing residue and who cringe at their very sight. Yet, these highly advanced women who do gods work by firmly rejecting the impotet right wing misfires, are passing them effortlessly, professionally and socially, with a serene smile on their face, barely acknowledging their existence.

    The stale, forgotten, ck-clinging, irrelevant, greedy right wing remnants will be allocated an anonymous portion of rural soil after their expiration. They will not be missed.

    1. NCMB   2 months ago

      Interesting take. I hope you’re right in your assessment that there are, in fact, a growing demographic of successful younger people embracing competition and persistence (personal responsibility). I’ll consider “attractive” as a bonus. Unfortunately, this seems to fly in the face of most messaging I see from the left which is generally based on a premise that failure should not be blamed on the individual and that providing an endless litany of excuses for it will somehow lead to success.

      Your comment is about banishing people to rural areas is pretty amusing. I can only assume you know nothing of rural life and values which embrace so many of what you would call socialist ideals; the big difference is that it’s voluntary.

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        I can only assume you know nothing of rural life and values which embrace so many of what you would call socialist ideals; the big difference is that it’s voluntary.

        Ruralites do take care of one another, unless it is an ex-Los Angelino who thinks they know everything or can "hire" their way out of every situation.

        "I'll pay you to plow my driveway" right after bitching about gunfire.
        "I'll pay you to remove the tree across my driveway" right after bitching about chainsaw noise.
        "I'll pay you trap the coyote that killed my precious pocket dog" right after giving the speech about "they were here first"

        The urbanites should be happy we still send food and energy to the cities.

        1. Quo Usque Tandem   2 months ago

          Never forget that Obama called us “bitterly clinging to guns and religion, with antipathy toward anyone they don’t understand.”
          This political class doesn’t know us and doesn’t care to understand; their power base lies in the cities and that is the extent of their knowledge and interest. Which is why states are red and cities are blue.

    2. JohnZ   2 months ago

      The first mistake was in giving wymyn the vote.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        How about the Jews, Nazi shitbag?

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

          Did a Jewish girl turn down his sexual advances?

          Or was that a Jewish boy?

          1. Chumby   2 months ago

            She turned her nose at him.

      2. You're Kidding   2 months ago

        And, driver's licenses. 😉

    3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      Adjective Artie strikes again! Look at him go! Impressive!

      Lol.

  4. MasterThief   2 months ago

    This article is almost 20 years too late. Obama was elected on a Marxist platform only superficially restrained by the Constitution. This is where the democrats have been for decades and Reason continues preferring them over anything done by republicans

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Yeah this. Reason struggles to claim that there exist moderate Democrats. There may be a handful but they all march in lockstep with the socialists.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Look what they’re doing to Fetterman for mildly disagreeing with them in a few things.

        It’s time to exterminate the Democrat party.

    2. JohnZ   2 months ago

      Correct. Soetoro was a student of Chicago communist Bill Ayers whose manifesto "Rules For Radicals" served as Soetoro's political bible.

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      Obama was elected on a Marxist platform
      lol

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        Nationalized health care.
        Government subsidies for mortgage protection.
        Government supported retirement.
        Forced unionization.
        Growth via governemnt spending on 'infrastructure.'
        Government handouts via EITC.
        Governemnt mandates on hourly pay.

        Yeah, totally not marxist at all.

        https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/2008-democratic-party-platform

      2. Chumby   2 months ago

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        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Fatfuck WISHES he as that thin. That image likely sent him screaming back to his latest 55 gallon drum of Ben & Jerry’s. He got their new flavor, Mamdanberry Pinko Delight.

          Jeffy can taste the Marxism each time he shoves another pint into his mouth.

      3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Where’s your response Fatfuck?

      4. damikesc   2 months ago

        Well, he fucked health insurance up so badly you'd think he was Canadian.

      5. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Still no response. Fucking morbidly obese retard Marxist pedo coward.

    4. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

      100%. Obama gets a pass for radicalizing US politics because Democrats (and Reasonistas) think he's cool or dreamy, despite his grey lips and mom jeans. It probably doesn't hurt that he's the only president in the 21st century who can string a sentence together without trailing off or speaking in tongues.

      Speaking of 20 years to late... Always left out of the Obama discussion is the fact that he's an obvious antisemite. You don't attend a racist, antisemitic church for 20 fucking years unless you're really comfortable with the hate "Reverend" Wright is spewing. You certainly don't dedicate your narcissistic memoir to him, or have him baptize your daughters.

      Antisemitism has always been a pretty good litmus test for whether you are the good guy or that bad guy. That goes for pieces of shit like Tucker Carlson and all of new-right pals and followers, and the obviously antisemitic left, which used to be "just" 10-20% of the Democrat party, but now is closer to a majority.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        You know JohnZ is a twisted antisemite, don't you?

      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Really? Trump does a better job at speaking off the cuff. Obama was only good at speaking from a teleprompter. Really good. But he’s that well spoken without a script.

        Hell, in a debate, I could beat him at least 9 times out of ten if he couldn’t use a teleprompter and had to do his own prep. All he ever really did was spout a bunch of meaningless slogans that soft headed democrats transferred into their own hoes and dreams. I have a really dumb cousin who is like that, and she worships him.

        Mamdani does the same thing. The exit polls show that the people who voted for him were largely uneducated foreigners and those with useless advanced degrees that are Marxist anyway.

    5. BigT   2 months ago

      Yes.
      The future of American politics looks increasingly like one where the worst ideas, including socialism, racism, and political violence are embraced by American voters.

  5. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    He will fail in a spectacular fashion.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      He will try to pull a California - When the rich leave, he'll try to impose an exit tax. When/if it fails to pass, he'll blame the oligarchy.
      Failed leftist policies are never the fault of the left.

      1. JohnZ   2 months ago

        Indeed. leftists never take responsibility for their failures. It's always someone else's fault.
        Or they didn't go far enough.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Hey, Nazi shit! Is that the National Socialists also?

      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        This is why people are getting out in a desperate hurry NOW. They know it’s coming. Maybe immediately. If the mass exodus is as high as predicted before January, Mamdani may attempt to pass some kind of exit tax on day one.

  6. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    You were warned. Cried Islamophobe! Xenophobe! And now here we are. Fuck you asshole.

  7. anomaloid   2 months ago

    I don't understand why so many commentators are interpreting the results of the recent election of Mamdani as proof that the future of the Democrat party is socialist. The two governor candidates were quite centrist in their economics. In fact, I would say they leaned towards the abundance faction of the Democratic Party

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      How much were you paid to try to convince people here dems dont run socialist policies?

      There is nothing centrist about sherril or soanberger other than retards buying into the narratives. They have public statements. They have voting records.

      Democrats rely on the ignorance of people like you.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      The same people voted for an AG who wants to kill conservatives and their children because they support the Bill of Rights.

      The top cop in Virginia. Sounds really centrist doesn't he?

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        To be fair, she only endorsed and supported the AG and the idea of murdering your political opponents because they disagree with you, she didn't originate the thought out loud like he did.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          Two types of democrats.

          Type one: publicly supports murdering anyone who dissents.

          Type two: Privately supports murdering anyone who dissents.

          She’s a Type Two.

    3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      So is that what Maddow told you to say?

  8. JohnZ   2 months ago

    Socialism is communism lite. A fine example of socialism occurred early in America's founding when settlements practiced a simple version of it by sharing the food that was grown. There were those who did nothing but lived off the efforts of others. Soon crop failures and lack of production nearly caused starvation. The idea was soon dropped and the settlements began to prosper.
    Today we have a form of socialism where taxpayer are forced at gunpoint to support women who have four and five kids from four and five different men, who then get enough welfare to fill two shopping carts with Pringles, Coke, Little Debbies and frozen pizzas.
    Socialism is a failed idea. It always has been a failed idea.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Socialism is the policy marxists use to get elected. Communism is the government marxists create to force it on everybody. Good and hard.

      1. Roberta   2 months ago

        Well, no; it's vice versa. Socialism is how communists govern. Communism itself is an aspiration, not a means of government.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          Yeah, communist bloc countries were explicitly socialist. It's what they called themselves. The distinction being made above is not helpful as it encourages the idea that socialism is a lesser evil than communism and not the supposed road to communism.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      JohnZ is Nazism heavy.

    3. JFree   2 months ago

      Your hoary tale of the Pilgrims being communist is bullshit. The Pilgrims were indentured servants on corporate owned land with an absentee landlord who wanted them to find gold or die (or steal food from dead Indians) instead of feed themselves.

      The Pilgrims broke that strangle hold. Which is itself a far more interesting story than the shit that you people imbibe from Stossel every Thanksgiving.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        It’s not. They attempted collectivism and they nearly starved to death. We all know how much you love Marxism, and hate Jews, so it’s no surprise you (again) reject facts.

        Marxism has, and will always be a failure. Bringing blight and mass murder with it. This is why Marxists should always be imprisoned or executed when they are found. They are an existential threat to the human race.

    4. You're Kidding   2 months ago

      And, driver's licenses. 😉

  9. PedroMartinez1   2 months ago

    This is proof that our public education system is an abject failure and should disposed of. Public education has failed the public.

    1. WellRedMan   2 months ago

      Indeed it has, but the real rot lies in its college and university system.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      30% of students read at grade level
      25% of students perform math at grade level
      80% of 'graduates' favor socialism over capitalism

      Working as designed.

    3. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      Commie-Indoctrination camps for kids ... So they can learn how ...

      A Classless society is where you hand *all* your money/earnings over to the elitist 'Gun' (Gov-Gun) packers and BEG the over-lords to get a tiny portion back.

      Why you could almost call it indoctrinated stupidity.

    4. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

      It depends on what you mean by 'failed'. It hasn't produced an educated, thinking populace, sure. But was that the objective the last couple of generations? Or was the objective exactly what we're getting?

    5. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      This is proof that our democrats should be disposed of. Democrats are an existential threat to Americans, and humanity in general.

  10. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    'Guns' don't make sh*t.
    An unwavering belief/faith that they can is the roots behind...

    MORE socialism will fix the failures of socialism! /s
    MORE THEFT will fix supply shortages of THEFT! /s

    As has always been the mentality of the final-days of socialists history.
    [WE] are literally repeating the biggest-stain on human history once again.

    When the fix is as simple as just returning the 'Guns' (Gov-Guns) to their proper-side of defending Liberty & ensuring Justice for all.

    Instead of flipping them on their head and using them For-Hire Armed-Theft.

    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Guns don’t oppress Americans. Democrats do.

  11. WellRedMan   2 months ago

    How is this different from any of the political systems active within the U.S.? Socialism is firmly entrenched in the U.S. economy per Marx's adage: "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs". Once a nation decides that it is moral and proper to steal the property of one man and give it to someone else, via taxation or any other method, all talk about liberty and freedom becomes meaningless.

  12. Roberta   2 months ago

    Fuentes is nowhere near the way he's being characterized here. You'd probably agree with him about almost all things more than you would with the average person, and you'd find your disagreements to be fairly minor in both importance and intensity. How many who are vilifying him are just parroting a line without knowledge, and how many are doing it knowingly? This is the most disgusting write-off of an admittedly fairly minor thinker I know of going on these days.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      I know nothing about this guy but I suspect you're correct. I'm at least willing to hear him out. In any case I find it hard to believe that he's a grave danger to the Republic attracting hoards of young conservatives into some kind of death cult. Qanon, project 2025, now Fuentes. There's always another hobgoblin to terrorize the the proletariat.

    2. MasterThief   2 months ago

      If his Carlson interview is a fair representation of his beliefs then I agree with him on most of the subjects covered. I'm mostly not with him on the Jew and race stuff, but he otherwise sounded like a rational conservative.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Mark Levin played some excerpts from Fuentes’ own podcasts. He is absolute scum, and has very little in common with the commentariat, except for the democrats who shitpost here.

        The guy is not a conservative, and is a nasty piece of shit.

  13. JohnZ   2 months ago

    Under socialism, you are told to reject what your eyes saw, what you know is the truth and to accept what you are told.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Is that under National Socialism too, Herr Schicklgruber?

    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Why are you afraid to address your anti semitism? Are you ashamed?

  14. Marshal   2 months ago

    Spanberger criticized Jones's comments but never called on him to drop out.

    The correct word here is "downplayed" not criticized. Her actual words were limited to calling it a "poor choice" which is how you describe ordering a steak at a casual dining restaurant.

    But let's give JD credit, at east he's admitting Mamdani has an Anti-Semitism problem unlike any other leftist or Reasoner.

  15. anomaloid   2 months ago

    Here's what ChatGPT thinks about your facile analysis:

    My prompt: Many people have been claiming that the victory of Mamdani in the New York mayor's race a few days ago portends a radical shift of the Democratic Party to far left policies. However, he won with a bare majority, while the Govenor candidates in New Jersey and Virginia had massive victories. The two governor candidates are both pragmatic centrists with no detectable socialist leanings. I am now wondering about the political leanings of the seats in the Virginia legislature that flipped from Republican to democrat. There were apparently at least 11 seats that flipped and I've heard nothing about the winners place on the political spectrum.

    ChatGPT response: The Virginia seats that flipped red→blue this week were overwhelmingly won by mainstream Democrats running on affordability, abortion rights, public-school funding, and infrastructure—not by DSA-style candidates. In other words, the legislative gains in Virginia look centrist-to-mainstream liberal, even as NYC elected a democratic socialist mayor in a very narrow race.

    A few anchors for the night:
    • NYC mayor: Zohran Mamdani won with just over 50% of the vote, defeating Andrew Cuomo and Curtis Sliwa; coverage across outlets characterized the margin as narrow.
    • NJ governor: Rep. Mikie Sherrill (a pragmatic Democrat) won decisively.
    • VA governor: Abigail Spanberger (well known as a centrist) won big; analysts explicitly framed it as a win for centrism.

    Which Virginia House seats flipped to Democrats?

    Based on certified/near-final district results, Democrats netted +13 seats in the House of Delegates, going from 51 to 64. The red→blue flips were:
    • HD-22 Elizabeth Guzmán (flipped from Ian Lovejoy) – Prince William suburbs. 
    • HD-30 John McAuliff (flipped from Geary Higgins). 
    • HD-41 Lily Franklin (flipped from Chris Obenshain). 
    • HD-57 May Nivar (flipped from David Owen). 
    • HD-64 Stacey Carroll (flipped from Paul Milde). 
    • HD-66 Nicole Cole (flipped from Bobby Orrock). 
    • HD-69 Mark Downey (flipped from Chad Green). 
    • HD-71 Jessica Anderson (flipped from Amanda Batten). 
    • HD-73 Leslie Mehta (flipped from Mark Earley Jr.). 
    • HD-75 Lindsey Dougherty (flipped from Carrie Coyner). 
    • HD-82 Kimberly Pope Adams (flipped from Kim Taylor). 
    • HD-86 Virgil Thornton Sr. (flipped from A.C. Cordoza). 
    • HD-89 Kacey Carnegie (flipped from Baxter Ennis). 

    How do these winners lean ideologically?
    • Their public platforms and endorsements point to mainstream Democratic positioning: protect abortion rights, lower costs (housing, childcare), fund public schools, and improve transportation—typical messages for suburban swing districts in NoVA, Richmond suburbs, Hampton Roads, and Williamsburg/James City. 
    • Examples: Lily Franklin’s materials emphasize jobs, housing and education (no socialist planks). Jessica Anderson and Leslie Mehta highlight schools, healthcare access, and reproductive rights. Elizabeth Guzmán is a progressive within the party but still campaigned on bread-and-butter affordability and services. None of these campaigns are running with DSA branding. 

    Bottom line

    Mamdani’s bare-majority NYC win doesn’t equal a national left-turn. The governor landslides in New Jersey and Virginia went to well-known centrists, and the Virginia House flips were taken by mainstream Democrats in suburban battlegrounds. That pattern suggests the median 2025 swing voter rewarded pragmatic messaging on affordability and abortion rights more than ideologically left branding. 

    1. Quo Usque Tandem   2 months ago

      Good analysis and you are no doubt correct in that the “accidental” candidacy of Mamdami does not necessarily portend a sea change; and yet there does exist a very radical element that is systematically gaining power within the Democratic Party and they are a substantial number of voters who are enamored of them. I wouldn’t write that off do easily. Socialism appeals in that it offers an egalitarian future (and makes that degree in intersectional studies cobbled to a $100 K student loan not seem so hopeless) that looks promising in books and on paper, distorting the reality that its never worked anywhere over the past 100+ years.

      1. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

        Yeah, I don't share the optimism (low bar) either. Colorado passed every conceivable regressive tax measure on the ballot this week, and generally by a 2-to-1 margin. There were even two separate bills promising "free lunch for kids and families without raising taxes"... except on people making over $300k a year. Both passed overwhelmingly. Why we need two, let alone one, I don't know.

        Colorado has joined the West Coast / Northeast shithole blue states that will vote for literally anything with a D or $ next to it, no matter how radical or how wasteful. You can blame part of that on the influx of losers from those other states. But it also reflects the fact that the 50% of natives who always voted D are much more willing to vote for radicals and radical measures than they were just a few cycles ago.

        1. You're Kidding   2 months ago

          That's because they let all those Californians in. They should have shut them out long ago.

          My father in-law grew up in Colorado. Crested Butte to exact. It was a tiny mining town full of Slovak miners.

          Decades back, I was a very serious hunter & fisherman. Colorado was my dream place.

          Then, I went hunting not far from Crested Butte. It was nothing like the mining town he had described. It was Berkeley of the Rockies. Colorado was no longer my "move to place". Just another paradise that had been overrun by Californians. It had been Californicated.

      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        Mamdani is the beginning of a wave of marxist islamists. He is proof that we shouldn't allow muslims to immigrate here, and definitely the poster child for screening out any immigrants with marxist affiliations.

        We have a growing Muslim problem. Time to get rid of as many of them as oossible.

    2. Roberta   2 months ago

      This is good news. It says Democrats are interested just in maintaining those parts of public policy that already feature government control, not extending it into areas of free enterprise.

    3. Rick James   2 months ago

      Mamdani’s bare-majority NYC win doesn’t equal a national left-turn.

      It's the national left-turn (for Democrats) that equals a national left turn.

      1. Rick James   2 months ago

        Man, it's almost like 2019-2024 never happened or was "mostly peaceful".

    4. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Where does chagpt get their political source from dumdum?

  16. Open Borders Libertarian (formerly Sandra)   2 months ago

    Many in the rising generation are embracing collectivist ideas.

    I keep hearing how great capitalism is but all it brings us is Donald Trump, Nigel Farange and the fucking blog ads on this website. I mean, I guess I’m a capitalist but I understand given the zeitgeist one’s interest in a dictatorship of the proletariat. At least it would give these puffy billionaires a little time outside doing something other than snorting ketamine and telling us that Hitler really wasn’t so bad. Log off, Elon, shine up that collective tractor.

    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      We will be much better off when we get rid of the Marxists and the islamists.

  17. Moonrocks   2 months ago

    Does this mean that the Left has loudly rejected the Left-Libertarian alliance?

    1. You're Kidding   2 months ago

      Or, that Reason writers have?

  18. shadydave   2 months ago

    "Many in the rising generation are embracing collectivist ideas."

    Including many of your co-workers here at this "libertarian" magazine.

    1. Rick James   2 months ago

      Tax cars to reduce congestion!

  19. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "Mamdani's Win Suggests a Socialist Future for Democrats and a Rocky One for American Politics"

    But TDS-addled steaming piles of lying shit are 'strategically and reluctantly' down with that, right, TDS-addled shit?

  20. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

    Why is the younger generation embracing socialism? Because capitalism as it is now structured is failing. Because young people are seeing a future where AI is sucking up all the jobs that a person could make a reasonable living doing. Elon Musk just got a deal that could make him a trillionaire and young people are wondering how they can get a job that will allow them to buy a house. So don't like socialism then fix this fouled up capitalism.

    1. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

      "So don't like socialism then fix this fouled up capitalism."

      No, the answer is more complicated. The Communists will be absorbed and contribute to a plank in the Democratic party. Just as the Tea Party and the Libertarian Party wwere absorbed into the GOP. The rising sympathy for Communism is concerning, but it is for the Donkeys to control.

      Leviathan will sort it out, as it has since the founding.

      1. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

        The Libertarian Party has been banished from the Republicans. Where have you been hiding that you don't know this?

        1. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

          What part of "absorbed" eludes you?

        2. Rick James   2 months ago

          No, the Libertarian Party banished Republicans and agreed to disagree and linked arms with Democrats. As Nick Gillespie agreed, the Democrat Party is where Libertarians belong.

    2. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      WHAT capitalism? Tell us about all this massive embracing of capitalism lately.

      100% Predictable. Socialists blaming whats-left of Capitalism for the consequences of their Socialism.

      ...because SELF-PROJECTING (blame-shifting) is all they do in every sense of the word.

      [WE] can't ?earn? a house because Elon Musk 'could' be a trillionaire so it's all his fault!
      [WE] can't ?earn? a reasonable living because 'Tech' is getting more done so it's all AI fault!
      [WE] are 'poor' because someone else Supplied so it's all the Suppliers fault!

      ...and since it is all 'its' fault we get to use 'Guns' and STEAL it.
      Literally biting the very hand that feeds them.
      But of course when that hand no longer feeds them it'll be all the hands fault; not theirs.

    3. You're Kidding   2 months ago

      Key word for all the haters: "Could".

      Did you note the conditions that would be required?

      He's no different than a used car salesman, promising the moon but padding his commission the whole time.

      I highly suspect his interest isn't even the compensation per se. It's other dreams he has that he would like to direct it towards.

      But most importantly for all the young people so concerned about the sheer magnitude of this: 1) His getting it doesn't somehow limit your ability to get your own. 2) He can't take it with him when he goes.

      The wealth that is accumulated in situations like this is just paper anyway. It's just a scorecard. It's past history. The future is the next round.

  21. Rick James   2 months ago

    Mamdani's Win Suggests a Socialist Future for Democrats and a Rocky One for American Politics

    What insular flyover state do you live in? The future? You mean the present and past for at least 10 years.

  22. Cyrano   2 months ago

    Well, both sides, because one side is communist, and the other... Uh oh, I think Reason fucked up.

    1. Rick James   2 months ago

      For those of us in blue cities, we've watched Democrats inch to the left in the 1990s, sprint to the left in the early 2000s, and burn through the gates of hell to the left in a nitro-burning funny car.

  23. AT   2 months ago

    The Democratic Party is becoming more socialist. That might not be the worst of our concerns.

    You get that celebrating Kirk's death, shooting CEOs in the street, openly fantasizing about murdering your opponent's children, siding with Hamas, and wanting to see your president assassinated is a result of - not cause of - the Democrat Party having transformed into the Democratic Socialist Party, right?

    There are no socialists who aren't murderous psychopaths. Not a single one. When they call you a fascist and say they want to kill you, they mean it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1DmcYC5XQs#t=3m14s

  24. Lester75   2 months ago

    I'd vote for a 3rd party if it had a chance. The Libertarians? They can't seem to get a grasp. Elon Musk wants to buy a 3rd party with his Trillions. He's just sort of nauseating.

    Young people will go socialist if the two-party system only produces crony capitalism (demos and repubs) corruption (demos and repubs both- especially the Trump family) and no chance of achieving housing or the savings the boomers accumulated.

    Housing affordability is really, really important.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Why would you expect socialists to fix the problem?

      When have they ever fixed anything?

      I always remind folks: We are, roughly, the only country on Earth who refused to trade with Cuba. They were an unmitigated shithole. Marxism does not work. It has never worked.

      And Reason seems to be not too upset over its ascendancy in the DNC.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      So you'll continue to vote democrat. Got it.

  25. JFree   2 months ago

    Many in the rising generation are embracing collectivist ideas.

    As long as real median personal income keeps on the no-growth-and-much-worse-than-that-for-those-who-can't-live-off-their-assets- path that we've been on since 1975, then it will be very easy for someone to sell ANY collectivist alternative.

    It's why Trump got his base. It's why DS gets their base. The only difference is what's your collective. 'Average' is a fraud. The average net worth for an American is just over $1 million. The median net worth for an American is $192,900 - almost all of which is just your house. Median net worth for the under-35's is $39,040.

    The American system is failing a whole shit ton of people. They will look for alternatives.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      I'll note Reason and you have fought every attempt to rectify the problem.

      I will take a Pinochet over a Marxist. Without hesitation.

      1. JFree   2 months ago

        That's not comparing Pinochet to Marx. It's simply looking at the USA over the last 50 years.

        No version of libertarianism gives a rat's shit about 'lifting all boats'. The very idea is communist to you people. Which is exactly why - the real median personal income went nowhere for two generations and will go nowhere for many more generations. And why your ilk are so desperately obsessed with your home prices and an economy built on asset bubbles. Because that's the sole source of wealth for most - and if that goes so goes your retirement.

        Median is exactly what can render an economic idea political or take such an idea out of politics. It's what winning coalitions are made of.

        1. Marshal   2 months ago

          the real median personal income went nowhere for two generations and will go nowhere for many more generations.

          THIS is why left wingers prioritize specifically illegal immigrants, and even in legal immigration prioritizes "diversity" which disproportionately brings in poor and uneducated people. They need poor immigrants to manipulate the statistics they use to pronounce doom on the economy.

          1. JFree   2 months ago

            Your bigoted fascist nonsense is why Trump created his own collectivist 'solution' - blaming those fucking foreigners for the economic problems of white working class.

            That data of mine showed why it worked to win two elections.

            1. Marshal   2 months ago

              As usual you left wingers are too stupid to even understand the discussion. If you were even average intelligence instead of dumbed down by decades of training in how to knee jerk react and call everyone racist (and now fascist) you'd understand I said this isn't an economic problem, not that the problem is caused by "fucking foreigners".

              1. JFree   2 months ago

                You're the one who turns a simple fact - the median American has stagnated economically for 50 years now - into "fear of other".

                That is exactly a collectivist impulse. In your case- fascism

                1. Marshal   2 months ago

                  You're the one who turns a simple fact - the median American has stagnated economically for 50 years now - into "fear of other".

                  Again, you're too stupid to understand the conversation. If you pour more water into a lemonade mix the average flavor is reduced. This doesn't mean something is wrong with the water.

                  The measurement criteria is the mistake, you're just too stupid to understand. That's also why you're so gullible believe those who claim everyone who disagrees with you is a fascist.

                  What a fucking idiot.

  26. You're Kidding   2 months ago

    What's most interesting to me with all these articles claiming that today's young people are embracing socialism is, who raised them?

    When we point our finger at someone else, at least three of our fingers are pointing right back at us.

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