Trump's National Guard Plan Edges the U.S. Closer to a Permanent Federal Police Force
A newly revealed Pentagon directive instructs every state to train riot-control units within their National Guards—raising questions about federal overreach and the growing militarization of domestic emergencies.
The Pentagon is directing every state and U.S. territory to create "quick reaction forces" within their National Guards, which will be trained to respond to civil disturbances and emergencies, according to a recently leaked memo obtained by The Guardian.
The memo instructs the National Guard Bureau to train these forces in riot control tactics, rapid deployment procedures, and the use of nonlethal weapons. The federalized forces will complement the National Guard Reaction Forces, which have existed for decades to provide emergency relief, reports The Washington Post.
Most states and territories (excluding Washington, D.C.) will supply 500 National Guard members. These units are expected to fully mobilize within 24 hours of activation, with an initial contingent of roughly 200 troops that will be pulled from the guard's unit that specializes in chemical and nuclear disaster response, ready by New Year's Day. By April, the new quick reaction force will reach 23,500 soldiers strong, according to the Post.
These new forces could signal the Trump administration's readiness to expand federal control over local policing, with one anonymous Pentagon official telling the Post that the administration is "revising plans for the employment of [National Guard Reaction Forces] to guarantee their ability to assist federal, state and local law enforcement in quelling civil disturbances."
Critics see the move as establishing a permanent, federally coordinated crowd-control infrastructure. Janessa Goldbeck, a Marine veteran and CEO of Vet Voice Foundation, told The Guardian that the memo represents "an attempt by the president to normalize a national, militarized police force."
It's unclear whether the new order—or any future deployments under it—would pass legal muster. Federal law generally prohibits the use of federal troops in civilian law enforcement, while the Insurrection Act allows exceptions only under narrow circumstances.
The Trump administration's prior efforts to federalize National Guard units for use in cities such as Portland, Oregon, and Chicago have already faced legal challenges and pushback from state officials. In Portland, state and local officials won a temporary restraining order blocking the activation of federal troops, though this was later overturned by an appellate court. On Wednesday, a federal trial to determine the legality of Trump's guard deployment began. In Chicago, a federal appeals panel said the administration's justification for deployment did not meet the threshold of a rebellion or danger of a rebellion required under federal law, writing that "political opposition is not rebellion," the Chicago Sun Times reports. These rulings suggest that any future use of the new "quick reaction" units for civilian crowd control could invite comparable constitutional scrutiny.
States are expected to submit compliance reports to the National Guard Bureau by March. It remains unclear if pending legal challenges against the Trump administration will allow this plan to be realized. However, one thing is clear: The administration's federalization of law enforcement doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
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This is a fun game. Hyperbolic statements as arguments.
Reasons preferred criminal policy edges us closer to the paradise of Venezuela, Mexico, and Brazil.
This is a fun game. Hyperbolic statements as arguments.
You should know, it's the game you've played for the last 4 years.
Great response Lying Jeffy!
Bears in trunks for the win!
Pot, meet kettle.
Don't forget the indisputable authority of "one anonymous Pentagon official" who they totally didn't make up out of whole cloth for sake of their freedom-fighter cosplay theater kid article.
The progressive preference is a slow-reacting national guard? Maybe North Carolina floods FEMA slow?
AI says: There are approximately 137,000 federal law enforcement officers in the United States who are authorized to make arrests and carry firearms.
Let's just imagine if Biden had tried to create a "rapid reaction force" to "quell civil disturbance"... every single commenter here would declare it's the first part in a slippery slope to impose martial law and nationwide tyranny.
But, since in this case, the "right people" are in charge, we have nothing to fear! I feel so relieved!
The cultists don't see this. All they know is that if Dear Leader has ordered it, it is good.
Lol. All you religious leftist fucks of the state have the same narratives. Have you tried logical argumentation?
Another good argument by a leftist. You guys really have it all figured out!
But, since in this case, the "right people" are in charge,
Correct. The "Left people" are violent, arsonist, thieving communists. You can choose a federal force quelling the Antifa assholes, or you can have we the people. We the people won't be arresting anyone.
Police your own, or we will. Simple.
Jeff wants you to vote through fear of his parties violent foot soldiers for his team.
Reminder.
Jeff supported the arrests and targeting of: Catholics, pro life protestors, conservative lawyers, presidents, grandma walking in a public building, etc. This included defending murder by a Capitol officer.
Jeff demands you not arrest: criminals, rapists, arsonists, dems who abused office, pedophiles, illegal immigrants, etc.
Jeff wants you to vote through fear of his parties violent foot soldiers for his team.
lol, the irony. Idaho Bob literally just made a not-so-veiled threat to murder the people he doesn't like if the Feds don't do some "quelling".
Maybe you should talk to your side's "violent foot soldiers" first?
The irony is you defend leftist violence but clutch your pearls when retaliation to widespread violence is suggested.
You and Sarc cheer when it's the left and scream fascist! when righteous retribution is on the table. Fucking clowns.
I think you are missing his point just a bit. He's not threatening, he's predicting. And likely accurately. If problems of violence and crime aren't solved by the proper authorities, people will take things into their own hands at some point. And it likely won't be pretty. Local police should have stopped a lot of things that they have failed or refused to stop. I don't like the feds getting involved, but I think it is preferable to leaving it to an angry mob. But there is a limit to what normally peaceful people who mostly just want to be left alone to live their lives will put up with. And when those people decide it's time for violence, that's when shit goes down. I hope we can avoid that.
I agree that the feds getting involved is preferable to an angry vigilante mob.
I don't agree that things have gotten to the point where the feds getting involved is justifiable under any reasonable standard.
I think that people like Idaho Bob don't really care about any of that, and will use the thinnest of justifications to rationalize killing the people he doesn't like.
Shorter Lying Jeffy: I agree with what you are saying Bob means, but he’s my enemy so I’m going to say what he means and it’s bad.
“I think you are missing his point just a bit.”
You misspelled being a disingenuous piece of shit. Lying Jeffy went right to inventing his enemies position in this thread. He’ll continue to do it.
The Left HAS murdered conservatives and thinks it is great when it happens.
Trump's officials have had to relocate to military bases due to threats by Leftists.
There is no both sides here.
The dead Walmart shoppers in El Paso, and the dead Jews at the synagogue in Pittsburgh, would disagree with you.
Well they were dead when hundreds of leftists celebrated Kirk’s assassination so the opinion you invented for dead people isn’t really important you dishonest psychopath.
You know that’s not the same goddamn thing.
And you know it doesn't matter to Lying Jeffy.
Got it. Tyranny is fine as long as it's the "good people" tyrannizing the "bad people".
Should we even bother to have elections in the future? Why not just let Trump appoint his successor to rule in perpetuity?
Ahhh lefty hyperbole.
Keep in mind we have 3 more years of Trump and likely 8 years of Vance. Should Americans tolerate the temper tantrums of the delusional violent left for the next 11 years?
Police your own.
Reminder: Self-defense is not tyranny. When you burn, loot, destroy, and openly call for conservatives' deaths, expect a reaction. Be thankful Trump is suggesting a government solution.
Are you new here?
More dishonest argumentation from Lying Jeffy. But he got an ‘ada boy from one of the dumbest motherfuckers that posts here.
“Tyranny is fine as long as it's the "good people" tyrannizing the "bad people".”
Does anyone think this was an honest summary of what Bob said?
Interesting Lying Jeffy had to use quotes around “bad people” after Bob referred to “violent, arsonist, thieving communists.” Because Lying Jeffy doesn’t actually think violent, arsonist, thieving communists are the bad people in this story.
Got it. Tyranny is fine as long as it's the "good people" tyrannizing the "bad people".
Perfect summation of all your stances during covid.
Found the guy that would let his bear ride around in his open trunk!
Did you have a stroke?
He's stroking all right.
Nobody brought up illegal immigrants raping children.
And nobody brought up Donnie Trump and his BFF Jeffrey raping children, either. Interesting.
I’m sorry you’re too fucking stupid to get the joke. Not particularly interesting.
^Well SAID +100000000000.
Yes. There is a difference between committing crimes against your fellow man and preventing them.
Literally the definition of having the "right people" in charge.
Sure, "tough" guy. Geez, you lil' cowards think you're going to fight against President Gavin Newsom's activation of the National Guard Reaction Forces with your little peashooters! Hilarious!!
This doesn’t make any sense Ed.
Well, consider that Ed is dumber than a horse.
Why do you hate horses?
If Republicans kept their cities as murderous shitholes with significant theft problems, Biden would have had a justification.
Lying Jeffy likes to make up fake scenarios to argue with. One of the many different ways he’s dishonest.
If local governments don't like this, they need to step up and provide effective law enforcement and safe streets themselves, as is their duty. We can't have our major cities in a state of rebellion, and large parts of them nightly shooting galleries.
Which city is currently in a "state of rebellion", and what is your evidence for your claim?
Certainly California is revolting and it's a state.
That's a really old joke: The peasants are revolting!
https://archive.org/details/peasantsarerevol0000park
My vote is for Oregon, because patchouli is just gross.
What is your evidence that trying to explain anything to you is not a pathetic waste of time?
I asked a straightforward question, and you pivoted to a personal attack. That's the only answer that I need. There are no cities in a "state of rebellion" by any reasonable standard.
Nobody here gives a fuck what you think.
Winning comment of the internet for today.
There are...but we have played this game with you for years.
I'm sure the CHAZ insurrection didn't meet your "by any reasonable standard" either.
The FBI already is a permanent federal police force.
US Marshals. DEA.
IRS. Secret service. Capitol police.
Funny Lying Jeffy didn’t have an issue with Biden expanding capital police expanding beyond the capital.
Even the Dept. of Education has SWAT teams.
Recall EPA getting funding for firearms and ammo.
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/01/29/waste_of_the_day_the_epa_spent_620000_on_guns_and_ammo_1007534.html
Apparently body armor and night vision optics as well.
ATF
If you want to get the dictator look right, you need actual soldiers on the street.
I'd probably take soldiers over the FBI. FBI starts more shit than they stop.
For once I disagree with you. I get your point, though. The military has been more trustworthy than the FBI for sure. The bigger issue to me is the military's job is to kill the enemy without asking questions.
I feel like policing and military duties should stay completely separate in any type of democracy.
...because only a dictator would defend their own nation from a foreign invasion or what?
No, but a dictator would falsely claim there is invasion among civilians within the nation to clamp down on the subjects.
14,000,000 (as in million) break-ins according to pew research in 2024.
51,100,000 Foreign-Born (15.6% of the entire population).
17,600,000 Children with parents foreign-born.
That makes a total of 82,700,000 or 25% of total population in 18-years.
...before the immigrant-children count as native residents again.
At what number do you think it's no longer 'faulty'?
And what 'clamp down on subjects'?
Frankly; I don't care about the #'s. It's the Socialist vs US Patriot that should be the 'filter' check but the evidence for your 'faulty' invasion is completely wrong by the #'s.
Or in other words. Immigration itself isn't the damage the USA faces.
It is the 'socialism' immigrants are use to that is damaging the USA.
The "conquer and consume" instead of *earn* ingrained mentality.
The socialists are in the white house. They already won.
Illegal immigrants are not armed invaders. They are not a military problem. The cure is worse than the disease.
Illegal immigrants aren't armed?
Correct. Not in any sense relevant to an invasion.
Approximately 73 to 76 federal agencies employ full-time law enforcement officers authorized to carry firearms and make arrests.
There are approximately 137,000 federal law enforcement officers in the United States who are authorized to make arrests and carry firearms.
Against 14,000,000 illegals as noted above.
That's 1 federal law enforcement officer for every 102 illegal invaders.
I note that the cultists here see nothing wrong with this.
Poor shrike.
No. I'm not upset at made up bullshit pushed by maddow and other retards.
Yo don't see anything wrong with massive crime rates in shit hole cities?
It's mostly Black people being gunned down in the streets, so Democrats don't care.
You only care to the extent you think it allows you to point fingers.
"There are no massive crime rates"
And with that lie, you confess to your indifference.
And with that lie, you confess to your indifference.
Not a lie - as you would know if you left your bubble.
E.g., California: https://www.ppic.org/publication/crime-trends-in-california/
But it's clear overall
Youre still ignorant that crime statistics are being cooked? Whistleblowers galore? Cities not reporting stats?
And down since an exteme high but still higher than the year before that is a retarded stance to take in defense of supporting criminals.
There are no massive crime rates and trastes are in a long-term decline, with a blip up during Covid. You've been lied to, and, being a fuckwit, you believe the lies. And also, being a fuckwit, you wouldn't then grasp why you're being lied to.
Oh, I think a good portion of them know that the bilge that Fox News et al. pumps out is deliberate agitprop. They are happy pushing lies that provoke outrage as long as they can harness that outrage into power for their team.
Andy Ngo doesn’t work for Fox News Lying Jeffy. If you wanted some truth you’d follow him.
Does Pizza Hut advertise with Andy?
Somebody turn down the gaslights—they're hurting my eyes.
Here you go: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/sr_24-04-23_crime_3/
The data literally does not matter to these clowns. We had this debate already a year or so ago with the whole "are the crime rates really falling?" articles. They patently neglect statistics in favor of their own much more flawed statistics and their feelz. Their feelz under Biden was "OMG CRIME IS EVERYWHERE". Their feelz now is "OMG DEMOCRAT MAYORS".
Lying Jeffy just ignores all the actual evidence that those numbers are bullshit because he’s dishonest.
We all know you're lying.
We all know you're a Regime toady and lickspittle: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/sr_24-04-23_crime_3/
National and, say, Chicago ain't synonymous. Chicago is not yet below 2020 numbers, even with police departments cooking the books and all.
Trump is not putting anybody out nationally. He is targeting specifically problematic locales.
But, continue beclowning yourself.
He is targeting specifically problematic locales.
No he isn't. If he were, he would be sending the National Guard to Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, New Mexico, and Tennessee.
https://usafacts.org/articles/which-states-have-the-highest-murder-rates/
These states have the highest per-capita murder rates in the nation. He is doing this to provoke a confrontation so that he can claim it was justified all along. He WANTS rioting in Chicago because that only makes him look better.
Lying Jeffy tries to switch from cities to states because he’s dishonest.
What parts of those states have the highest murder rates?
Poor Lying Jeffy:
National Guard troops expected in New Orleans by late November, police superintendent says
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/national-guard-troops-expected-in-new-orleans-by-late-november-police-superintendent-says/
The Tennessee governor at the urging of President Trump has sent the state national guard into Memphis.
Lying Jeffy received a talking point. It doesn't matter if it's not true.
But, continue beclowning yourself.
Keep lying - it's all you know how to do.,
That's actually a subjective statement shrike, it can't be a lie.
But thanks for beclowning yourself again.
Shrike, youre retarded.
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/police/mpd-crime-underreporting-charlotte-djossou-house-oversight-committee-james-comer-mayor-bowser-chief-smith/65-9b5763ec-a83c-453c-8e4e-7b5a2a9699c5
Yup
Sarc’s conveniently “muted” everyone that’s pointing out this is a bullshit leftist narrative, with links to the evidence.
Another post by one of our resident leftist that doesn’t address the issue whatsoever.
Man you guys are really just mailing it in.
It'll be interesting to see the cultists weeping and moaning when President Newsom activates the National Guard Reaction Forces to fight rightwing crime.
If he can find any "rightwing crime".
Give me an example of the crimes you're talking about.
To be clear, I don’t agree with using them for general policing.
Considering so far they’re only supporting ICE agents and federal facilities, because state and local governments are EXPRESSLY refusing to do so…
Trump's National Guard Plan Edges the U.S. Closer to a Permanent Federal Police Force
Once again, after notoriously escorting 9 children to school almost 70 yrs. ago, it seems like they've been part-timing with local police for a while and the real issue is local police not doing their job.
Remember when the authors here had hissy fits over DHS agents protecting federal courthouses?
And in the same time period were outraged over unmarked vans arresting rioters and arsonists.
The American intelligentsia loves to think this country is somehow immune to human history: if both local and then federal governments refuse to protect the rights of its people, someone else eventually will. And you might not like that very much.
The people of Chicago shouldn't have to flee their homes. The local government clearly doesn't care (because it's politically advantageous for them not to). So what's next?
There is absolutely a balance between enforcing the law and protection of liberty. If there is not enough law enforcement, then we essentially have a state of anarchy and no one's liberty is protected. But, if we have too MUCH law enforcement, then we have essentially a police state and, again, no one's liberty is protected.
So how do we decide if we have the "optimal" amount of law enforcement, to enforce legitimate laws while at the same time reasonably safeguarding the liberties of the people? What is the evidence that crime in places like Chicago or Portland is so bad that we have reached a state of quasi-anarchy?
Outside of insane murder statistics and clear evidence that people of a certain political persuasion cannot get fair treatment you mean?
In Portland, antifa attacks independent reporters. When the reporters go to the police, they arrest them.
Democrat cities today, just like in the 40's and 50's, are unwilling to treat all people equally. And are far more violent to boot.
Mississippi has the highest per-capita murder rate in the nation. How many National Guard soldiers should be sent there?
Where in Mississippi Lying Jeffy?
Jackson Mississippi has the country's highest murder rate. Jackson is where the Republican governor lives on a 2.5 acre estate protected by state police and never ventures out into the city.
LMAO. Ed you're really bad at this. You should ignore difficult questions like Lying Jeffy does.
Jackson's City Council members are:
District Name Party
Ward 1 Ashby Foote Rep
Ward 2 Tina Clay Dem Dem
Ward 3 Kenneth Stokes Dem
Ward 4 Brian C. Grizzell Dem
Ward 5 Vernon W. Hartley Dem
Ward 6 Aaron Banks Dem
Ward 7 Virgi Lindsay Dem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackson,_Mississippi#Government
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mayors_of_Jackson,_Mississippi
He’s not called Special Ed for nothing.
Leftists being this dumb is so boring. Can we throw the pedos in the pit already?
Seriously Ed, did you really think the governor living on a "2.5 acre estate" (what a massive estate!) was some sort of gotcha here?
I genuinely am fascinated by your thought process here.
1. Uhm, we already have permanent federal police forces. Several of them in fact.
2. Wouldn't be a problem except for trh Democrat policies - which you support . . .
Reluctantly, but strategically, to be sure.
At least they're not an American version of the SA, because they'll be under the direct control of Trump. So that's all right then.
He already has the Marines who very much are directly under his control with no need for Congressional input on anything.
The Marines are not being used for law enforcement within the US.
Yet.
Whooosh!
So we're pretending the reaction to Democrat intentional failure is coming out of nowhere? Are you that stupid or do you think we are?
You're that stupid.
These troops are specifically being trained for non lethal riot control. They will not be enforcing state laws. As we saw during the George Floyd riots local officials are in many cases politically aligned with the criminals and refuse to enforce the law. Remember the autonomous zones in Portland? And the Portland police finally shut down another one. These de facto sanctioned riots specifically attacked federal government facilities among other things. An appellate court recently ruled that a president can use the guard to protect federal facilities and persons when local police fail to do so. That's where we are now. Reason mostly celebrated the criminality of the BLM riots and they're doing the same with the immigration riots today. There is nothing libertarian about surrendering public property to violent mobs and Reason's support for this violence and continuing to lie about the relevant law can only encourage more.
Reason mostly celebrated the criminality of the BLM riots and they're doing the same with the immigration riots today. There is nothing libertarian about surrendering public property to violent mobs and Reason's support for this violence and continuing to lie about the relevant law can only encourage more.
Mostly celebrated the riots over BLM, lost the narrative, and is now trying to advance it under the banner of immigration racism.
They weren't fooled by "Don't Say Gay!".
They weren't fooled by "Joe Biden is in top shape."
They weren't fooled by "Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn't have been there."
They've useful idiots is the generous interpretation.
“ A newly revealed Pentagon directive instructs every state to train riot-control units within their National Guards—raising questions about federal overreach and the growing militarization of domestic emergencies”
How reasonable is this?
What prevents National Guard, under federal control from exercising police powers? Posse Comitatus.
And when can this be overridden? Through Presidential invocation of the Insurrection Act.
So, how is President Trump trying to utilize NG? Protecting federal property and employees.
Why does the Trump Administration believe that is necessary? Because federal property and federal employees attempting to enforce federal (immigration) law are endangered by protesters and militants trying to prevent them from doing their assigned duties enforcing federal law through violence and intimidation.
Why is this necessary? Because local and state authorities in “Sanctuary” states and cities have refused to allow their local and state LEOs to protect federal employees and properties involved in the enforcement of federal immigration law.
Why this proposed training? To better train NG troops to be able to better defend federal employees and properties being violently attacked by those attempting to prevent enforcement of federal (immigration) laws. Laws duly enacted by (democratically elected members of) Congress.
When laid out like this, it’s obvious what is going on here. The opposition to NG riot training is to prevent them from being as effective in protecting federal property property and employees enforcing federal law, from violence and intimidation, aimed at reducing their effectiveness in enforcing those federal laws.
And it's not as if NG being used in times of civil unrest is a new or even recent thing unique to Trump admin. It happens. And riot control isn't even necessarily law enforcement. If they are going to be used for that purpose, it seems rather sensible to train them for it. Better to do that, and train them in non-lethal riot control techniques than risk a replay of Kent State.
Immigration Enforcement *is* a permanent federal police duty.
...because it is literally a duty of the US (fed) in the Constitution.
The Necessary and Proper clause to execute that duties supplies for counter-forces against Rebellion of that duty.
That said; The feds should be very careful they stay focused on Constitutional federal law and not waiver into no-federal-law territory.
Next BS excuse.
What-ever excuse it takes to allow the break-ins to continue.
I never thought it would be the political right that would be occupying cities with soldiers under the pretext of fake emergencies. I figured it would be the left since they have no respect for states rights and have a long tradition of using the military for law enforcement throughout the world. This is a surprise.
What is even more surprising is that conservatives are all gung ho for stomping all over the states and using the military to subdue the American people. Bizzarro world.
Imagine Democrats doing this during COVID. It would have been the end of the world. But because it’s Trump conservatives are cheering.
Principals, not principles.
I pity patriots who signed up to defend the country, and are now an occupying force. People who sign up for law enforcement are garbage, but military volunteers are worthy of respect. Making them do this is an insult.
“occupying cities”
This is the tell.
It's CHAZ's city ... The US government is the insurrectionists! /sarc
The leftards here start to make sense when everything is upside-down from reality.
Difference being - One is Constitutional because 'Guns' can defend a nation from invasion and the other UN-Constitutional because a 'Gun' doesn't cure disease.
Course TDS doesn't care about what is UN-Constitutional or what is Constitutional or what a 'Gun' even has the ability to accomplish.
They were always going to deploy the military against the people. The temptation is just too high and their hatred for the other half of the country is too high. The whole point is to provoke a reaction that will serve as their "casus belli" to take the gloves all the way off
Yes, that has always been the Left's plan. Some of them are explicit about that.
And by 'the people' you mean illegal invaders who broke-in UN-invited?
A military that protects its nation from an invasion is so horrible! /s
Let's see how gung ho they remain when President Newsom activates NG against rightwing areas.
Please give me a hypothetical example of this Ed.
Which federal agents would the NG have been protecting, and what law would those agents have been enforcing?
Outside of national defense, the primary purpose of government is to protect property rights. Local leftist governments have abdicated that responsibility in favor of various leftist goals that are contrary to individual liberty.
I can’t think of a better reason for the federal government to intervene in local law enforcement.
When people ask "Why do you say Trump is a fascist?", it is because of stuff like this. It is un-American and a direct assault on the US as a free country.
The freedom for socialists to invade other nations?
Yep. Sounds like something a Fascist-Nazi would propose alright.
Some of us might consider defending the US from treasonous Socialists to be American.
Nobody asks you that question.
We have multiple federal police forces-- the FBI, US Marshals, military police, National Park Police, ICE -- so what's one more?