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Health Care

Don't Extend Obamacare Subsidies To End the Government Shutdown

Government interference in health care should be reduced, not expanded.

J.D. Tuccille | 10.22.2025 7:00 AM

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The federal government's not-really-a-shutdown lingers on, largely driven by Democrats' insistence on extending pandemic-era subsidies that conceal the real cost of health coverage under the Affordable Care Act (ACA)—better known as Obamacare. It's not enough that the spending bill under consideration is already bloated with unaffordable goodies that Republicans and Democrats alike support. Democrats have to show themselves battling the Trump administration and see advantage in doing so while fighting to preserve the main legislative accomplishment (bad policy though the ACA is) on which they've staked their reputations for over a decade. This is no way to handle spending, let alone to improve health care.

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Subsidies That Hide the Real Cost

"Families across America are opening up letters and researching the new rates online and are seeing how their premiums will skyrocket if Republicans refuse to act on the health care crisis they created by refusing to extend the vital ACA tax credits," Sen. Chuck Schumer (D–N.Y.) huffed last week.

The "vital" tax credits to which Schumer refers are subsidies that reduce the cost of health coverage policies under Obamacare. These subsidies are necessary for political reasons because, as the Cato Institute's Michael F. Cannon puts it, "Obamacare offers junk insurance at outrageous premiums." There's no easy way to hide the low quality of the coverage, but subsidies can take the sting out of the price.

Obamacare came with subsidies for low-income consumers built in. During the COVID-19 pandemic, subsidies were temporarily broadened, made more generous, and then extended by the misleadingly named Inflation Reduction Act. "The enhanced subsidies increase the amount of financial help available to those already eligible and also newly expand subsidies to middle-income people, many of whom were previously priced out of coverage," according to KFF, a health policy think tank.

That is, the current budget impasse is over further extending "temporary" pandemic-era subsidies for higher-income families who were never intended to enjoy price breaks under the original ACA legislation. By and large, those higher-income earners weren't purchasing Obamacare plans at all until the enhanced subsidies kicked in. Artificially lowering premium prices to conceal the true cost brought them to the table. "Millions of enrollees have come to rely on the enhanced subsidies, with more people gaining Marketplace coverage since President Biden took office than had signed up for ACA Marketplace when the markets first launched in 2014," KFF noted in 2024.

Subsidies That Increase Taxpayers' Burden

But if consumers aren't paying the full cost of those subsidized Obamacare plans, somebody is, and that somebody is ultimately American taxpayers. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that permanently extending the enhanced subsidies would increase the deficit by $350 billion from 2026 to 2035. But the CBO labors under certain mandatory and unrealistic assumptions about federal fiscal responsibility; the National Taxpayers Union foresees extending the subsidies "adding $410 billion over ten years to the deficit."

Writing for the Tax Foundation, William McBride cautions that extended ACA premium tax credits "are but one of many federal subsidies and tax preferences for health care, making this sector by far the most heavily government-subsidized sector in the economy." He adds that "healthcare spending has grown to almost one-third of the federal budget and, combined with tax preferences, now exceeds $2 trillion or 8 percent of GDP. These subsidies are forecasted to continue growing faster than the overall economy, making reforms that control costs imperative to achieve a sustainable fiscal trajectory."

This is sort of a fancy way of saying that Obamacare is part of a range of very expensive federal programs intended to insulate Americans from all the things they don't like about health care. None of the programs do anything that actually improves the quality of health care, nor do they help to lower its cost. Instead, at growing expense, they hide the burden and put off the day when reforms will have to be implemented. Calling Obamacare a scam isn't an exaggeration. It not only delays real reform; it's also easily gamed to line grifters' pockets.

Last year, The Wall Street Journal's Joseph Walker reported that "hundreds of thousands of low-income Americans were unknowingly signed up for government-subsidized health insurance, often lured by social-media ads falsely promising cash for daily expenses." Insurance agents got commissions for signing people up, and generous "temporary" enhanced subsidies meant the government footed the bill—not the people who often didn't even know they had been signed up for Obamacare coverage.

Reform Is Better Than Extending Subsidies

Even worse, Cannon of the Cato Institute adds, Obamacare and other federal intrusions into health care are a big part of the problem why the costs politicians want to conceal are rising so fast. As an example, he points to regulations crafted to protect patients with preexisting conditions that drive insurance companies to engage in "backdoor discrimination" that makes it harder for some people to get care.

Adds Cannon, "If government regulations are making your health insurance too expensive or limiting your choice of treatments or providers, those regulations should be optional. You should have the right to choose better, more affordable health insurance" by opting out of regulated coverage. That was tried in 1996 with short-term plans and expanded during the first Trump administration with success. The Obama administration itself exempted U.S. territories from many rules to preserve insurance markets.

Along similar lines, Veronique de Rugy of the Mercatus Center also recommends "expanding access to more affordable alternatives such as association health plans and short-term renewable policies." She suggests easing scope-of-practice rules so that providers including physicians' assistants can offer services currently reserved to physicians.

Over a decade ago, Curtis Dubay of the Heritage Foundation proposed letting Americans purchase health insurance across state lines and carry it with them wherever they go. "Small businesses, individual membership associations, religious groups, and fraternal organizations should be able to sell health insurance policies through new group purchasing arrangements," Dubay wrote.

"Rather than continuing to subsidize the ACA and other inefficient healthcare programs, lawmakers should use this opportunity to change course and institute reforms that might finally 'bend the cost curve' in health care downward," concludes the Tax Foundation's McBride.

All of this is to say that the worst way of concluding the federal government's not-really-a-shutdown would be to give in and extend the enhanced Obamacare subsidies that make the situation worse.

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  1. Adans smith   1 day ago

    When it changed from medical insurance to cover unexpected and expensive problems that was a turning point.. Now it's 'health care' and is expected to cover almost all costs.

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    1. Rossami   1 day ago

      It was never 'insurance' in the sense of something to cover unexpected and expensive problems. The history of "health insurance" in the US dates back to the WW2 wage and price controls. Unable to pay higher wages, employers started offering health care coverage to attract or retain better workers. After WW2, we never undid that market distortion even after we abolished the wage controls.

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      1. Sam Bankman-Fried   21 hours ago

        Correct, Republicans have been defending a system created by the UAW and New Deal Democrats…it’s pretty hilarious!

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  2. Chumby   1 day ago

    Govt interference in healthcare should be eliminated.

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    1. Roberta   23 hours ago

      But it's the one area of interference that has the most popular support.

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      1. Chumby   18 hours ago

        https://despair.com/cdn/shop/products/meetingsdemotivator.jpeg?v=1554328548

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    2. Sam Bankman-Fried   21 hours ago

      This medical procedure is going to be very expensive…have you considered just dying?? 😉

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  3. Kemuel   1 day ago

    This is 100% correct. The government has made things worse. I have terrible insurance paid for largely by my employer and would drop them like a rock if I could purchase health insurance on my own across state lines in an open, free market.

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   23 hours ago

      Government rules also create the "reasonable and customary" one way ratchet for fees. You survey, say 100 providers for their cost for procedure X. Some number of them charge more than average and expect the patient to make up the difference from what Medicare costs, some number of them charge less than average but accept the Medicare payment.

      The incentive is to charge what Medicare pays, so anyone charging less will raise their prices to the Medicare payment; the ones already charging more do not lower their prices. So a calculation of the mean results in a new, higher level for reasonable & customary. So Medicare eventually raises their payment level.

      Lather, rinse, repeat. The ratchet only goes one way.

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  4. MollyGodiva   1 day ago

    I can see valid arguments for the Ds to drop the ACA subsidies demand. But they need to hold firm on making sure that Trump does not refuse to spend allocated funds.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

      The funding they are demanding was removed by congress in the BBB vote you retarded fuck.

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   23 hours ago

        No. The subsidies were created by the Inflation Reduction Act by Democrats and Biden as a COVID response. They came with an expiration date as part of that IRA law.

        Republicans are choosing to allow them to expire on time according to the law. Democrats are demanding new funding to keep them alive.

        "The Inflation Reduction Act extended enhanced premium tax credits for the Affordable Care Act (ACA) through the end of 2025, allowing more individuals to qualify for subsidies and reducing their health insurance costs. These enhancements are set to expire on January 1, 2026, unless Congress decides to extend them further.

        Now, some of the other things like USAID and NPR funding were cut by BBB, but that's not what we're talking about here I think.

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        1. Zeb   22 hours ago

          Yeah, make the democrats own this shit. They wrote the law that way to game the cost calculations. If they wanted them to go on forever, they should have been honest about what it will cost and seen how the vote went.

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          1. Medulla Oblongata   22 hours ago

            Democrats passed the ACA without a single Republican vote. Democrats passed the COVID-era subsidies (the ones that are expiring now), without a single Republican vote.

            Now they are demanding that Republicans do what Democrats want when they don't have the votes to do it themselves?

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            1. Sam Bankman-Fried   21 hours ago

              Whaaaa!! Baby cry cry!!

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              1. Zeb   20 hours ago

                What an odd reaction. The Dems are crying because the law that they passed is being implemented as passed.

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  5. Mickey Rat   1 day ago

    "...largely driven by Democrats' insistence on extending pandemic-era subsidies that conceal the real cost of health coverage under the Affordable Care Act (ACA)..."

    That is largely driven by the Democrat's desire to have government provided health insurance as an entitlement and are quite willing to do so by indirect and sleazy means. They are trying to establish dependency on the government by a portion of the population as a wedge to expand that dependency in the future in order to bribe the public with its own money. They are going to oppose any reversal of that policy tooth and nail.

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    1. Neutral not Neutered   1 day ago

      There is a large contingent of people who are completely dependent on the government now.

      Then you add in the subsidized, including the Covid expansion to folks who are middle class earners.

      At this point with the amount of spending on Medicare and Medicaid and subsidies paid into health care and insurance, it can be made universal and reduce costs by taking control of the "insurance" portion the government is already in control of or involved in.

      Otherwise, this half assed ACA attempt and hidden subsidy racket boosted with the IRA established by and ran by the democrats is failing the people and needs to end.

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  6. MollyGodiva   1 day ago

    All of our peer countries have universal healthcare that is highly subsidized by the government. They have better health outcomes and the system cost less than what we have in the US.

    I know there are many on this blog that are opposed to single payer healthcare. I an not quibbling with that. But don't pretend that single payer is some radial leftist concept.

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    1. Chumby   1 day ago

      What is your 'fair share' of what someone else has worked for?

      - Thomas Sowell

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      1. Keldonric   1 day ago

        I’m not sure the “fair share” line lands cleanly when most of us already surrender 15.3% of every paycheck in payroll taxes — 12.4% for Social Security (OASDI) and 2.9% for Medicare (HI) — both universal, government-run insurance programs, split between employee and employer.

        As a nation, we’re clearly fine with shared coverage once the pool is old enough or disabled enough. The real debate isn’t whether we believe in collective insurance — it’s where we draw the line.

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        1. Mickey Rat   1 day ago

          That we have already to submit to such taxation is not an argument for piling more on top.

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          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

            I in fact want more Medicaid cuts, Medicare reform, and end of ACA. I never agreed to any of it.

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            1. Neutral not Neutered   1 day ago

              This does not change the current and increased spending the government does and will incur.

              That is not a solution to the problem just continuing a resolution to have one.

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            2. Sam Bankman-Fried   20 hours ago

              JizzeAzz, nobody cares about your opinion other than how to jizz in another man’s ass and make a gayby like Treasury Secretary Bessent did to his Prince Charming.

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        2. Chumby   1 day ago

          Is your answer whatever other sheep will put up with?

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      2. Neutral not Neutered   1 day ago

        Health care is not the same. You already pay a massive amount in taxes to fund the system now and pay insurance premiums on top which are mostly profit for insurance companies and their administration.

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    2. AT   1 day ago

      They also have death panels.

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    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

      Then flee to those countries with the rest of the trans threatening to move.

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    4. rswallen   1 day ago

      Of all the variations of universal healthcare, single payer healthcare is the one that can be most aptly described as a radical leftist concept. Far better to go with something like the Bismarck/Social Health insurance model.

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      1. Neutral not Neutered   1 day ago

        Wrong, wrong and wrong.

        Single payer insurance in Canada, the only one, started out with individuals paying insurance premiums to the Province for hospital care, not all Dr's visits.

        People paid premiums and also copays.

        As the system developed over decades and the federal government adding in support for the provincial health care systems premiums in Alberta were removed and paid for by oil revenues.

        In 2009 the premiums were $44.00 per month for single and $88.00 per month for families.

        Blue cross and other "supplemental" private insurance plans are available and private clinics are opening which folks can pay a portion of the costs above what the Provincial health system would.

        Currently in Canada the tax revenues from the oil and gas industry cover the health care costs of the Canadian health industry.

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    5. Mickey Rat   1 day ago

      "They have better health outcomes and the system cost less than what we have in the US."

      I think you have to define "better" in what way and also "cost less", as it those systems require confiscatory levels of taxation, and well as the resulting enervating of economic life because of it.

      That other countries use it does not mitigate the radicalness of the idea.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

        He is also referencing studies that have different standards to prove his assertion, such as infant deaths and cancer rates.

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    6. Rossami   1 day ago

      re: "better health outcomes" - No, not really. The health outcomes they have are heavily dependent on the relief to the system offered by providers outside their system. That's why health-care tourism is a thing. A great many international patient fly to, for example, the Cleveland Clinic for heart problems that their local hospitals can't fix. There is no Canadian or UK equivalent.

      re: "the system cost less" - Again, no, not when you add in the total costs of operation and subsidization.

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    7. See.More   20 hours ago

      All of our peer countries have universal healthcare that is highly subsidized by the government. . .

      Logical fallacy in play: argumentum ad populum (appeal to popularity).

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  7. AT   1 day ago

    How about we just stop pretending the Health Care is a right, and educate people on the definition of Insurance.

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    1. MollyGodiva   1 day ago

      In all of our peer counties what you suggest would be considered a radial far right position.

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      1. AT   1 day ago

        What's that tell you about them?

        Also, I love how you screwed up your auto-correct. That's TWICE you've done that now.

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  8. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 day ago

    Should hold out for no Obamacare subsidies AND 4-8% budget cuts.

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    1. Zeb   1 day ago

      Well, that would be a start, I guess.

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  9. eyeroller   1 day ago

    Don't Extend Obamacare Subsidies To End the Government Shutdown

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  10. Neutral not Neutered   1 day ago

    91% of health care is subsidized in the USA now. https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertpearl/2025/03/24/91-of-healthcare-is-government-subsidized-is-your-coverage-safe/

    Here’s a closer look at the five ways the U.S. government funds healthcare. If you have health insurance, you’re almost certainly benefiting from one of them:

    Medicare, the government-run healthcare program for those 65 and older, covers 67 million Americans at a cost of more than $1 trillion annually. Approximately half of enrollees are covered through the traditional fee-for-service plan and the other half in privately managed Medicare Advantage plans.

    Medicaid and CHIP provide health coverage for around 80 million low-income and disabled Americans, including tens of millions of children. Even though 41 states have turned over their Medicaid programs over to privately managed care organizations, the cost remains public. Total Medicaid spending is $900 billion annually — the federal government pays 70% with states footing the rest.

    The online healthcare marketplace is for Americans whose employer doesn’t provide medical coverage or who are self-employed. This Affordable Care Act program offers federal subsidies to 92% of its 23 million enrollees, which help lower the cost of premiums and, for many, subsidize their out-of-pocket expenses. The Congressional Budget Office projects that a permanent extension of these subsidies, which are scheduled to end this year, would cost $383 billion over the next 10 years.

    Veterans and military families also benefit from government healthcare through TRICARE and VA Care, programs covering roughly 16 million individuals at a combined cost of $148 billion for the federal government annually.

    Employer-sponsored health insurance comes with a significant, yet often overlooked, government subsidy. For nearly 165 million American workers and their families, U.S. companies pay the majority of their health insurance premiums. However, those dollars are excluded from employees’ taxable income. This tax break, which originated during World War II and was formally codified in the 1950s, subsidizes workers at an annual government cost of approximately $300 billion. For a typical family of four, this translates into approximately $8,000 per year of added take-home pay.

    With 91% of Americans receiving some form of government healthcare assistance, the idea that U.S. healthcare is predominantly “private” is an illusion.

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  11. TJJ2000   1 day ago

    EXCELLENT Article +100000000000000.

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  12. Lester75   24 hours ago

    The idea of buying insurance across state lines is a good one for Republicans to propose as part of a compromise. Even if it's not a position that would be acceptable to Dems it would be a good position to argue that they are proposing 'something'.

    Eventually Trump will start getting blamed for not 'making a deal' as he is supposed to be so talented at it.

    If the Repubs win the shutdown and a lot of people in Red states start seeing their insurance costs going up a lot, it won't be particularly beneficial for Repubs politically. In fact, a compromise might save them some seats.

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  13. Medulla Oblongata   23 hours ago

    This is a very old reference of mine...

    Even if you think health-care should be provided by the government, do you think every person in the US (notice I didn't say citizen) should have unlimited benefits? Consider this article:

    Ana Puente was an infant with a liver disorder when her aunt brought her illegally to the U.S. to seek medical care. She underwent two liver transplants at UCLA Medical Center as a child in 1989 and a third in 1998, each paid for by the state.

    But when Puente turned 21 last June, she aged out of her state-funded health insurance and was unable to continue treatment at UCLA.

    This year, her liver began failing again and she was hospitalized at County-USC Medical Center. In her Medi-Cal application, a USC doctor wrote, "Her current clinical course is irreversible, progressive and will lead to death without another liver transplant." The application was denied.

    The county gave her medication but does not have the resources to perform transplants.

    Late last month Puente learned of another, little-known option for patients with certain healthcare needs. If she notified U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services that she was in the country illegally, state health officials might grant her full Medi-Cal coverage. Puente did so, her benefits were restored and she is now awaiting a fourth transplant at UCLA.

    The average cost of a liver transplant and first-year follow-up is nearly $490,000, and anti-rejection medications can run more than $30,000 annually, according to the United Network for Organ Sharing, which oversees transplantation nationwide.

    What does Ana say about her situation?

    "It doesn't matter if I'm undocumented," she said. "They should take care of me at UCLA for the rest of my life because I've been there since I was a baby."

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    1. Neutral not Neutered   2 hours ago

      Wow.

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  14. Medulla Oblongata   23 hours ago

    Health care is not a right

    Nor is housing, food, or any number of other things socialist nanny/welfare states try to say are fundamental human rights.

    To me, it is a self-evident truth that your rights do not trump mine. If the only way you can afford food, shelter, clothing or health care is to force your fellow citizens to pay for them, then you have essentially decided that it is worth enslaving others to meet your needs.

    Here's how we can see that health-care is not a right. Imagine that tomorrow every doctor, nurse, P.A., EMT, etc.--every health-care provider--decided to quit their jobs and refused to practice medicine. How then will you exercise your health-care "rights"? Many people will say that doctors will have to be forced to provide care. And those people have just espoused a form of slavery--forced labor is a form of slavery.

    Forcing others to pay for your health-care is only somewhat removed from that far-fetched scenario. Each dollar removed from someone to pay for your health care is a dollar they worked to earn. A portion of their alloted time on this Earth was confiscated from them for your benefit.

    While I'm on health-care here's some things to consider:

    About 10% of all health-care spending in the USA is obesity-related.

    Between 10 and 15% of all health-care spending in the USA is smoking-related.

    Health-care costs in the USA averaged $6,280 per person in 2004.

    Half of the population spends little or nothing on health care, while 5 percent of the population spends almost half of the total amount. Among this group, annual medical expenses (exclusive of health insurance premiums) equaled or exceeded $11,487 per person.

    In contrast, the 50 percent of the population with the lowest expenses accounted for only 3 percent of overall U.S. medical spending, with annual medical spending below $664 per person.
    Thus, those in the top 5 percent spent, on average, more than 17 times as much per person as those in the bottom 50 percent of spenders.

    The elderly (age 65 and over) made up around 13 percent of the U.S. population in 2002, but they consumed 36 percent of total U.S. personal health care expenses.

    A new study from the Mayo Clinic reports that intensive care accounts for 30 to 40 percent of hospital spending, with the majority of care given to elderly patients with chronic conditions.

    [edit: numbers above are circa 2008, when I first wrote this]

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  15. Medulla Oblongata   23 hours ago

    My modest proposal...

    1. Remove employers from the loop. Everyone buys their insurance on their own.

    2. Allow old-school catastrophic plans and modern high deductible health plans at lower costs than the pre-paid oil-change plans pushed today.

    3. If you want to, provide the tax break the employers got on insurance premiums to benefit individuals and/or allow tax advantaged HSAs to go with the HDHP. Or not.

    4. Require (*) every adult over 18 to have their own plan. Failure to have coverage means you get the full medical bills when you end up in hospital, hospitals can street you the second you're stable, and they will bankrupt you with bills. (*) Not enforceable by fine or jail, just your own fiduciary downfall.

    5. Extend HIPPA carryover rules such that anyone can buy a new plan from a different provider with no exclusions or pre-existing condition limitations so long as they have a current plan in effect. However, if you do NOT have a current plan, then say a 2-year pre-existing condition exclusion can be enforced.

    5(a) 18 year olds purchasing their first plan would have the existing plan requirement waived.

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    1. Zeb   22 hours ago

      It pains me to think of how much more money I would have if I had been paid all of what my employers have spend on my health insurance (which I have not gotten remotely close to my money's worth out of) over the years and just been able to buy a catastrophic plan and pay for anything else myself. Healthy non-hypochondriacs really get screwed in this system.

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      1. Sam Bankman-Fried   20 hours ago

        The best risk pool is the largest risk pool. The largest pool of people that need to save for health care expenses is everyone in America. The reason we don’t have universal health care in America is because we have Black people and every decision made since 1789 has factored in Black people and how to make sure they don’t get any benefit. Even food stamps is really a program for Big Corn and not to help poor Blacks. And it’s not just the South it’s everyone in America…god forbid anyone in America had to make even the smallest sacrifice to help a Black. We were more generous splooging dollars to the Muslims that harbored the 9/11 terrorists than we have been to Blacks!

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        1. Neutral not Neutered   2 hours ago

          Racist much?

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  16. Uncle Jay   22 hours ago

    "Don't Extend Obamacare Subsidies To End the Government Shutdown."

    A better idea is to terminate Obamacare.
    Oh, wait.
    That makes sense.
    The ruling elitist vermin in the District of Corruption would never do that.
    What was I thinking?

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    1. Sam Bankman-Fried   21 hours ago

      Every product and service you purchase in America includes the costs of someone else’s health care expenses! We fund those health care costs with what amounts to a VAT controlled by the largest employers in a state and the state government. You are defending a VAT and paying other health care expenses and your boss and state legislators controlling your family’s health care!!

      You are a pussy!!! George Washington would despise our country being full of pussies like you that outsource your family’s health care decisions to your boss!! Tell me, do you let your boss fuck your wife?? Because you let your boss determine which birth control she has access to you fucking worthless pussy!! More like, Uncle Vagajay!! 😉

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      1. Uncle Jay   19 hours ago

        Fuck you, Fried Brain.
        Get your own damn healthcare.
        All sane people do not want to subsidize other peoples' healthcare.
        If George Washington was alive, he'd slap socialist slavers like you into next week.
        If you like government healthcare so much, then move to Cuba.
        Your lunatic leftist pal Michael Moore says it's better than American healthcare.
        It's time for socialist slavers like you to put or shut up.

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        1. Sam Bankman-Fried   19 hours ago

          Haha!! I must have hit close to home. Most of the old commenters here have a bad case of ding dong don’t work syndrome and so they are probably relieved when their boss fucks their wife! How awful to be an American man that depends on another man to provide health care for their wife and kids because they don’t have the nutsack to make something of their lives….pathetic!!

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