Mom Placed on Child Abuse Registry for Letting 13-Year-Old Babysit
Pennsylvania’s “Reasonable Independence for Children” bill pushes back on overzealous child neglect laws.

When single mom of two and home health aide Alice (a pseudonym) needed to run a brief errand, she tasked her 13-year-old brother (whom she is also the caretaker for) with babysitting her nearly 1-year-old child. For this, she was placed on the state's child abuse registry.
Mariel Mussack, an attorney with Community Legal Services, told Alice's story during testimony before the Pennsylvania House Children and Youth Committee in favor of H.B. 1873—known as Reasonable Independence for Children—on October 6. Similar bills have been passed in 11 states to date, clarifying that neglect is when a parent puts their child in obvious, serious danger, not anytime they simply take their eyes off of them.
As in most of the other states, the Pennsylvania bill has bipartisan sponsors: Rep. Jeanne McNeill (D–Whitehall), who is majority chair of the committee, Rep. Rick Krajewski (D–Philadelphia), and Rep. David Zimmerman (R–Reinholds). Krajewski opened the hearing by noting that he'd grown up with a single mom who worked two or three jobs, and therefore, he had to get himself to school and help care for his younger sister. "It really does chill me to think that, in the eyes of our state statutes, that could be seen as neglect," Krajewski said.
Zimmerman recalled growing up on a farm. "We'd be gone all day," he said. "And we really would look out for each other."
Peter Gray, a research professor of developmental psychology at Boston College and a co-founder of Let Grow, a nonprofit fighting for childhood independence, testified that an independent childhood helps inoculate kids against despair.
"Over the last 60 years, we've seen a gradual but overall huge decline in children's opportunities to play, roam, and generally engage in activities independent of adults," Gray said, adding that "we've seen a gradual but overall huge increase in anxiety, depression, and…suicide among young people."
That's due to a shrinking "internal locus of control," the sense that you can handle things alone, said Gray. The way you build a robust internal locus of control is by being trusted to decide some things for yourself, like how to spend your time, and what you can handle on your own. "But," Gray said, "we're not allowing [kids] to do that."
As constant adult supervision becomes the norm, more and more kids are being reported to the authorities. Diane Redleaf, a civil rights lawyer and Let Grow's legal consultant, says that 37 percent of American children will be the subject of a hotline call—that number soars to 53 percent for African-American children.
Ethan Demme, a Lancaster, Pennsylvania, adoptive dad and CEO of educational publishing company Demme Learning, said he went to testify because "I know firsthand about parents abusing their children and the need to intervene when that happens." Unfortunately, he continued, "some people equate independence with neglect." If some passerby calls the authorities because his kids are outside, Demme said, "my children are thrust into another terrifying interaction with police or child services."
I also testified, reminding the committee of the Georgia mom handcuffed in front of her kids because her 10-year-old son walked to town unsupervised. I read aloud a letter from Lonna Gordon, a suburban Philly mom whose sons—aged 9, 6, and 4—had been wandering and playing in the neighborhood when someone called 911. When police arrived, the boys were within 50 feet of home.
Alice was eventually removed from the child abuse registry. But, Mussak said, "we have seen many cases similar to Alice's."
As Demme summed it up, we don't need to lower the bar for protecting kids in real danger. "We need to raise the bar for common sense."
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If it weren't for Lenore and Reason, the looters would surely have raised the age of consent to 25 or 30 by now, and amended the Mann Act to say "crossing the street" instead of State lines.
I grew up in Maryland but often rode my bicycle miles across the Pennsylvania state line when I was growing up. My parents never knew where I was.
So that’s where you ended up eating all those paint chips.
Interesting. Sarc put his hands on his child and ostensibly was not placed on said list. Though his actions did garner a visit by CPS.
Are there parents who don't put their hands on their child? I would say that would be negligent parenting.
I bet that if you were to randomly chuck out laws, 9 out of 10 said repealed laws would never be noticed except by prosecutors looking to nail an opposing politician.
Many organizations offer babysitting classes to tweens and teens that covers basic first aid, CPR, and what to do in an emergency. I would say that it shows forethought and responsibility if the parent sent their tween to this class and they passed and that is acceptable. If they just dropped a sub-one year old with a 13 year old with no preparation, that would be child endangerment in my mind.
"...in my mind."
Assumes fact not in evidence.
PWNED!
No one cares what you think you deranged loon POS. Fvck right off
Tony the dipshit of dipshits wants state licensed baby sitters because government says it’s ok.
Clueless fuck.
Shrike would kill to get one of those licenses. And potentially afterwards.
Or that 13 year old is an active participant helping mom every day...probably knows how to best take care of the child than some 2 hour babysitters club tutorial. We don't even require adult parents to take such a course before they take the kid out of the hospital. You wish they did, though...probably one of the nutjobs that forced hospital staff to verify you installed the carseat properly before they let you take your newborn.
an independent childhood helps inoculate kids against despair.
"Over the last 60 years, we've seen a gradual but overall huge decline in children's opportunities to play, roam, and generally engage in activities independent of adults," Gray said, adding that "we've seen a gradual but overall huge increase in anxiety, depression, and…suicide among young people."
How else are Democrats going to maintain a voter base?
I was an independent free range child and ended up a Democrat.
Media driven paranoia might have something to do with it. The the idiots on social media who invent incidents. About every Spring we have some idiot on Facebook who puts out the "white van" cruising the Mall or Walmart. Every year the police investigate and find nothing. Last night I'm leaving a store, going across the parking lot and about 50 yards in front of my is a woman who is going in the same direction. She starts looking over her shoulder every few seconds. I hit the button on my key fob to unlock my car doors. She sees that and relaxes. It's the same with children. The worst part is that the Police Unions have used this to generate fear in order to convince people that they need more Police.
It long predates social media (though that did probably accelerate the problem some). It goes back to the 'missing kids on milk cartons' and yellow journalism that's been a staple since, well, journalism. Fear sells. And we're stupid for buying it.
Before professional childcare was rampant, everyone babysat a sibling, cousin, or neighbor at least once. I started at 10 and so did most of my peer group. By 16 I was doing it as a part time job; It's what you did in Smalltown, USA.
Another point of view might be that professional childcare is rampant because siblings, cousins and neighbors aren't. Rather than displacing, it filled a gap. But then all the "Whatabout the children!?!?" people took over and turned it into shit.
By this time of day Sarc is many sheets to the wind and stupor posting.
(whom she is also the caretaker for)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbvYeLxMKN8
he'd grown up with a single mom who worked two or three jobs, and therefore, he had to get himself to school and help care for his younger sister.
Let's talk about the erosion of the nuclear family, the insane lionizing of single motherhood (for which women are 100% incapable of raising children; oddly enough men can manage it, but women never ever can*), and the immoral and destructive embrace of no-fault divorce.
* I'ma go Catholic on y'all for a second and suggest that this is why God designed things the way He did. Men can't have babies on their own, women can't raise them on their own. Women can have them, men can raise them - but one without the other just doesn't work. It's SUPPOSED to be a joint effort with a mother and a father. (And don't even get me started on the LGBT Pedo groomers who go out of their way to intentionally disrupt that for their creepy groomer sex kinks.)
"It really does chill me to think that, in the eyes of our state statutes, that could be seen as neglect," Krajewski said.
I can't say it rises to the level of criminal neglect, or even civilly liable neglect. It's just bad parenting. We used to have an objectively accurate socially shaming term for it: "latchkey kid."
"Over the last 60 years, we've seen a gradual but overall huge decline in children's opportunities to play, roam, and generally engage in activities independent of adults," Gray said, adding that "we've seen a gradual but overall huge increase in anxiety, depression, and…suicide among young people."
Mmm, are we sure the causal connection there is lack of independence? Sure seems like it's more lack of parents and family structure.
When I was a kid the rules were "come home when the streetlights turn on." I had plenty of independence. But I also had a home where mom or dad was waiting when I got there. And somewhat angry if it was too late.
It was never coming home to an empty house.
I'm going to scroll back up for a sec:
she tasked her 13-year-old brother (whom she is also the caretaker for) with babysitting her nearly 1-year-old child
Did he have a cell phone? A landline? Something to use in an emergency? Could he operate a motor vehicle, or even ride a closely stabled horse? Did he know CPR? Did he know the alterations to CPR when performing it on a 1yr old? How to treat a head wound, burn, or laceration? How hot to heat the breastmilk or formula, or how to change a diaper if that kid started wailing?
The question for me is: did mom actually teach her kid to be independent, responsible, and make good decisions? Or are we just automatically assuming that leaving a baby with a GenZ tween will learn/be so by virtue of being independently left to his own devices?
I think that's the real sticking point with all this Lenore. It's your one and only cause, and I can respect the idea behind it - but free range parenting only works if A) they're good parents; and B) they've raised their kids well enough to appreciate the responsibility and morality needed for independence.
It's kind of like the Founding principles of this nation. They only work for a good, moral, and religious people. If they don't have that going in, if they're not raised with that mentality in mind - it's not going to work. Because they won't know how to maintain order without some kind of authority imposing it on them. I would love if everyone was like that, Lenore. But we both know darn well that - especially in 2025 - those kinds of people (especially the imported ones) are now the exception instead of the rule.