Texas and Florida Have Become National Models for Using the Police State To Wage Culture War Battles
From library books to abortion, gender, and even food, the culture war is now feeding the police state.

"Essentially, the librarians are my suspects," the Texas police officer tells a school superintendent in the body camera footage. "If they are the ones that are choosing the books and putting them in there, you know, they're the ones carrying the criminal liability."
The Hood County constable was in the middle of a nearly two-year investigation of several school librarians for distributing allegedly obscene books. Local news outlet KXAS obtained the body camera footage and the nearly 800-page case file of the officer's investigation last year, which concluded after the district attorney declined to file the charges that the constable had taken the liberty of drafting up.
No librarian has been arrested in such a case yet, in Texas or elsewhere, but the incident illustrated a larger trend: On issues such as library books, abortion, gender, and even food, the culture war is now feeding the police state.
This phenomenon started in the states, and none have pursued it with more intensity than Florida and Texas, where governors and legislatures have competed to show that they're fighting the hardest against what they call "woke" excess and leftist hegemony. Now this style of governance—using criminal law, mass surveillance, tip lines, and the threat of police violence to wage the culture war—is going national.
This doesn't just implicate the freedom of trans people or high schoolers who want to read Toni Morrison; it's a danger to every American who wants to live, work, and travel without being monitored and menaced by the state.
"There's usually some kind of boogeyman of the day that justifies the building of a very extreme and well-funded and well-resourced policing apparatus," says Matthew Guariglia, a senior policy analyst at the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), a digital rights advocacy group. And that apparatus "ends up becoming a day-to-day enforcer of the laws."
The 'Blueprint State'
If you trace the origins of President Donald Trump's numerous executive orders this year on any culture war issue, it will often take you to Florida or Texas.
When the second Trump administration issued an order threatening to strip federal funding from K-12 schools that teach children "anti-American, subversive, harmful, and false ideologies" related to gender and race, it was lifting from Florida's playbook.
Likewise, the administration's campaign against universities on such issues as anti-Israel protests, transgender athletes, and critical race theory were all preceded by Florida, where a powerful executive branch, Republican-controlled Legislature, and conservative state Supreme Court allowed Gov. Ron DeSantis to apply intense pressure to public universities and school districts. The state has been a testing ground for the conservative movement's policy wish list on everything from public camping bans to expanding the death penalty to gutting civilian police oversight boards.
In a June report, PEN America, a nonprofit that promotes free expression, dubbed Florida the "blueprint state" for the White House's run of education-related executive orders. "Each of these federal actions has had a test run in Florida," the report stated.
We're seeing a "general intimidation of librarians," says Sabrina Baêta, the senior program manager of PEN America's Freedom to Read campaign. "It's people bringing books to police headquarters and claiming that there has to be some kind of police action against it. It's doxxing and threatening librarians and educators who are trying to do their jobs."
One of the most recent examples occurred in June, when Hillsborough County Public Schools Superintendent Van Ayres was summoned before the State Board of Education. The board grilled Ayres about why his district hadn't fully complied with a threatening letter from Florida Attorney General James Uthmeier and then–Florida Education Commissioner Manny Diaz Jr., demanding that it pull 55 "pornographic" and "inappropriate" books from high school library shelves. Some of the titles did indeed contain infamous amounts of sex and violence, such as Anthony Burgess' A Clockwork Orange and Bret Easton Ellis' American Psycho. But others were clearly chosen for their LGBT content, such asthe young adult rom-coms Margo Zimmerman Gets the Girl, by Brianna R. Shrum and Sara Waxelbaum, and This Is Kind of an Epic Love Story, by Kacen Callender, or because they frankly discuss issues like teenage drug use (Amy Reed's Beautiful), sexual assault (Sapphire's Push), or eating disorders (Sherry Shahan's Skin and Bones).
Some inclusions were just bizarre. It seems unlikely that teenagers in search of a naughty thrill are cracking open The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle, Haruki Murakami's doorstop novel of Japanese magical realism.
Ayres' answer—that the titles were being reviewed by trained "media specialists," which Florida now requires by law to approve all school library materials—only further incensed the board.
"Have you considered firing all your media specialists and starting from scratch with women and men who can read?" board member Grazie Pozo Christie asked. "These people that you trust to review these materials are abusing the children of your county. They're child abusers."
At one point during the meeting, Diaz said he wanted to "provide caution" to school officials and librarians that they "could face penalty under law and prosecution by the attorney general's office" for stocking obscene books.
Unsurprisingly, Ayres agreed to permanently remove all 55 books from Hillsborough County school libraries. He also ordered around 600 books flagged by the Florida Department of Education in 2022 to be removed from shelves and reviewed. After seeing Ayres get put on the hot seat, other Florida school districts began pulling books off their shelves as well.
Legislatures are tempted to use criminal penalties as a lever precisely because the threat of prosecution is so effective, but in most states that have considered bills to crack down on library books, cooler heads have prevailed. The North Dakota Legislature passed a bill in April that would have prosecuted librarians for not removing explicit material from libraries; Republican Gov. Kelly Armstrong vetoed the bill, calling it "a misguided attempt to legislate morality." Alabama and South Dakota also both introduced bills in their most recent legislative sessions that would have subjected librarians to criminal prosecution for distributing obscene materials, although the Alabama bill died and the South Dakota one was gutted and replaced with an appeals process.
Disputes over the content of school libraries can be resolved by school boards, and by other means that do not involve police investigations or probes by the state attorney general's office, which has more important work than perusing library stacks for prurient material.
This all comes with a price tag. Tampa Bay radio station WUSF reported that it will cost Hillsborough County Public Schools roughly $345,000 in labor to finish reviewing the roughly 600 books flagged by the state. That's an awful lot of money to make sure teenagers read fewer books.
All of that money and all of those threats might be for naught. In August, a federal judge struck down nearly every provision of the 2023 Florida law that led educators to remove thousands of books from school libraries.
Reviewing the list of books that had been pulled from shelves in Florida schools, such as On The Road, Slaughterhouse-Five, and The Bluest Eye, U.S. District Judge Kent Wetherell concluded, "None of these books are obscene." The restrictions on them, he ruled, "are thus unreasonable in light of the purpose of school libraries."
'As Far as I Know, There Isn't a Case'
In March, Maria Rojas, a Texas midwife who operated four clinics for low-income women in Harris and Waller counties, became the first person in the state arrested for allegedly providing illegal abortions.
Rojas' case was the first opportunity for Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton's office to flex its new criminal and civil powers under a trio of anti-abortion bills passed in 2021. The laws banned most abortions after six weeks with no exceptions for pregnancies resulting from rape or incest. They also subjected medical practitioners who perform abortions to criminal penalties, including up to life in prison and $100,000 in fines.
The proceedings against Rojas have been highly unusual, though. The state of Texas waited more than three months to formally indict her on criminal charges, leaving a 30-page arrest affidavit filed by Paxton's office as the only evidence offered by the state outlining Rojas' alleged crimes.
"I can't even call it a criminal case, because as far as I know there isn't a case," Marc Hearron, an attorney with the Center for Reproductive Rights who is representing Rojas, said in April, while he was still waiting for the indictment.
According to Hearron, Rojas was held in jail for 10 days, forced to post a $1.4 million bond, and fitted with an ankle monitor "without even so much as actual criminal charges being filed."
In late June, Rojas was finally indicted on 15 criminal charges: three for allegedly violating Texas' abortion bans and 12 for allegedly practicing medicine without a license.
The state began investigating Rojas' clinics in January, after Texas Health and Human Services received an anonymous complaint.
In addition to the criminal prosecution, Rojas is fighting a civil injunction that shut down her clinics. Her lawyers are appealing that injunction, arguing the state has offered no hard evidence that Rojas or her employees were performing abortions at the clinic.
Hearron calls the investigation and prosecution a "shocking invasion of someone's liberty and the ability of low-income and uninsured populations to be able to access basic health care."
The Texas Attorney General's Office did not respond to a request for comment.
At the same time, Paxton's office has been using the law's civil component to target out-of-state doctors. Texas won a $100,000 judgment in February against Margaret Carpenter, a New York doctor who mailed abortion pills to Texas residents.
The state of Louisiana also indicted Carpenter on criminal charges in January for allegedly mailing abortion pills. The state attempted to extradite her, but New York refused those requests. Additionally, Louisiana is prosecuting a mother for allegedly giving her teenage daughter abortion pills she received from Carpenter.
Focusing on the relatively small number of criminal prosecutions obscures the larger impact of the law, though, which opponents say has been to put maternal health care—the women who receive it and the doctors who administer it—under a police spotlight.
A ProPublica investigation published in February found that the rate of life-threatening sepsis infections for women hospitalized for pregnancy loss during their second and third trimesters rose by 50 percent after Texas' abortion ban was enacted. Although Texas' abortion laws have carve-outs for life-threatening complications like ectopic pregnancies, opponents of the law argue that this shows doctors are waiting until fetal heartbeats completely stop before administering care to women who are miscarrying, drastically increasing the chance of infection and other serious complications.
"There's an ongoing maternal health care crisis because physicians, especially OB-GYNs, are terrified of being thrown in jail and prosecuted for providing basic reproductive health care," Hearron says, "including things like miscarriage management or treatment of ectopic pregnancies."
Already, these laws are leading to edge cases in law and bioethics. This spring, the plight of Adriana Smith captured national media attention.
Smith, a pregnant Georgia woman, developed blood clots in her brain and was brain-dead. Doctors kept her on life support because they believed they were legally obliged to try to save her fetus under Georgia's anti-abortion law. Smith's family was stripped of decision-making power over her.
In June, after four months of keeping Smith's brain-dead body alive, doctors removed a premature-but-living baby boy from her. His family named him Chance.
As of late August, Chance is still alive. But the case raises fundamental questions about legal personhood, bodily autonomy, and the state's power to commandeer them.
According to Dana Sussman of Pregnancy Justice, a maternal rights group, more than 10 bills were introduced in statehouses during this legislative cycle that would allow charges of homicide for people who obtain abortions.
Even if one believes that abortion should be outlawed, it's worth considering whether expanding the scope of criminal penalties—their severity and who is subject to them—will bring clarity or confusion to maternal health care.
Bathroom Bans
Keeping the government out of your bedroom is an old trope. But these days the struggle is to keep the government out of the bathroom.
At least 14 states have adopted laws over the past couple years barring transgender people from using public restrooms that align with their gender identity.
In April, a judge temporarily blocked Montana's new bathroom law from going into effect. Montana 4th Judicial District Judge Shane Vannatta wrote that the law "is motivated by animus and supported by no evidence that its restrictions advance its purported purpose to protect women's safety and privacy."
Only two states, however, criminalize the act: Utah and Florida. The first time someone was arrested in the U.S. for attempting to violate a transgender bathroom law, of course it happened in Florida.
Marcy Rheintgen, a 20-year-old transgender college student, was arrested in March for washing her hands in the women's restroom of the Florida State Capitol building in Tallahassee.
Rheintgen was protesting Florida's Safety in Private Spaces Act of 2023. The law makes it a crime for an individual to refuse to leave a restroom or changing area assigned to the opposite sex when asked to by a government employee. It applies in government buildings.
Rheintgen had sent letters to dozens of public officials and lawmakers announcing her intentions, and when she arrived there were several Capitol police officers waiting for her.
"I wanted people to see the absurdity of this law in practice," Rheintgen told the Associated Press after her arrest. "If I'm a criminal, it's going to be so hard for me to live a normal life, all because I washed my hands. Like, that's so insane."
Rheintgen wasn't charged with violating the Safety in Private Spaces Act, but rather with a much more mundane charge of misdemeanor trespassing. That meant prosecutors wouldn't have to untangle the untested and poorly written law. It also deprived Rheintgen the opportunity to file a civil suit challenging the statute.
Rheintgen's arrest made national headlines, but the case against her ended quietly three months later, with barely a local news story to mark its resolution. In June, a Leon County judge granted a motion by Rheintgen's defense attorney to dismiss the case against her after the State Attorney's Office for Florida's 2nd Judicial District failed to file charging documents and other information within a 90-day deadline.
"I think they messed it up on purpose because they knew this was bad publicity for them," Rheintgen told the Tallahassee Democrat. "And they were scared of what could happen, like politically, that this would just cause a bunch of political blowback, which I think it would if I went to jail."
Prosecutors for the state attorney's office did not respond to requests for comment.
Again, even if one sees keeping trans people from their preferred bathrooms as a sensible policy, the immediate recourse to criminal penalties for edge cases—no one has yet been charged under Florida's law—wastes everyone's time and creates confusing new legal standards.
These sorts of issues are not existential threats to public order that require the full weight of the law to solve, and private actors and institutions should be able to find their way to a bathroom policy without a criminal statute to refer to.
The Blue Meanies vs. the Anti-Liberal Right
Of course, Florida and Texas lawmakers weren't the first to draft legally dubious bills in response to social panics, nor is it a problem exclusive to Republicans.
The architects of Florida and Texas' culture war campaigns argue that they're just trying to even the score against a progressive regime that uses government power to enforce its ideological diktats on institutions both public and private.
It's true that blue states have long been innovators in nanny-state nonsense, perhaps most notably on the Second Amendment, where several progressive-dominated states and large cities have persisted in illegally squelching residents' constitutional right to bear arms.
During COVID-19 lockdowns, church congregations were prevented from meeting in person, playgrounds and beaches were closed, and children were kept home from school—while some of the politicians who ordered the lockdowns, such as California Gov. Gavin Newsom, were caught doing things like dining out at high-end restaurants.
The experience convinced an increasing number of conservatives that it was a loser's game not to exploit every opportunity to expand and consolidate political power, small-government values be damned. The choice was between being in charge of a state of emergency or living underneath someone else's, and they had gotten their fill of the latter.
The sheer number of bills churned out over the past few years by Florida and Texas is notable, especially in light of how petty the targets can be—drag queens, librarians, whoever might be using a certain bathroom stall. In July, Florida Attorney General Uthmeier launched a criminal investigation of a drag show at a restaurant owned by the vice mayor of Vero Beach. Uthmeier's subpoenas for records from the restaurant include guest lists and any other information to identify patrons.
Also notable: those laws' dismal track record in court. Federal judges, even those appointed by Trump or on conservative-leaning appeals panels, have repeatedly struck down culture-war bills championed by DeSantis and Texas Gov. Greg Abbott.
In addition to the aforementioned book ban law, judges have struck down Florida's ban on social media for children under 14 and large portions of the state's Individual Freedom Act of 2022, better known as the "Stop WOKE Act."
One of the most contentious provisions of the act barred private employers from requiring employees to attend workplace training that promoted any of eight concepts that the state Legislature associated with critical race theory or diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives.
As Jason Garcia, an independent Florida journalist, originally reported, when attorneys for the DeSantis administration defended the Stop WOKE Act at oral arguments before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit in 2023, they made an argument that stunned the judges.
Judge Andrew Brasher, a Trump appointee, asked DeSantis administration attorney John Ohlendorf if a more narrowly tailored law could simply give employees the right to sue if they were distressed by workplace training materials. Ohlendorf said no: "The state, I think, has an interest in protecting people from racist and offensive speech even if they would, misguidedly, welcome it."
"Really?" Brasher interjected. "Really? That's interesting. So the state has an interest in protecting me from hearing things that I want to hear?"
"I think so, your honor," Ohlendorf responded. "I don't see why whether the employee welcomes hearing that they are a morally inferior race goes to the state's interest."
Judge Britt Grant, another Trump appointee, asked Ohlendorf why the state, then, didn't have an interest in protecting the residents of Skokie, Illinois, from Nazi speech, referring to the landmark 1977 Supreme Court ruling that allowed neo-Nazis to march through the heavily Jewish town.
In the audio recording of the court hearing, Ohlendorf stammers between long pauses for 10 excruciating seconds before trying to distinguish the two cases. Ohlendorf says that, unlike Skokie, Florida's compelling interest in keeping racist speech out of the workplace is united by its interest in protecting captive audiences, such as employees, from being conscripted into listening to such speech.
This isn't noted just for schadenfreude. It shows what an extreme power grab these laws are. The state interest claimed by Ohlendorf represents a boundless paternalism. Stripped of context, it's indistinguishable from the leftist identitarian politics that the Stop WOKE Act purports to stand athwart.
In May, the 11th Circuit ruled against DeSantis again, upholding a lower court ruling that Florida's drag show law is likely unconstitutional.
In that latter case, the DeSantis administration lost in court to an Orlando restaurant named Hamburger Mary's. It was in fact the second time in as many months that Florida, the state DeSantis dubbed "where woke goes to die," had lost in court to a patty-slinging plaintiff.
Cowboy Logic and Red Meat Politics
In April, a federal judge denied a motion by the state of Florida to dismiss a lawsuit by Upside Foods, a company producing "cultivated meat"—that is, meat grown in a tank from animal cells rather than harvested from a slaughtered animal.
Upside Foods is one of a handful of companies in the U.S. trying to scale up this new technology, which it says could supply rising consumer demand for meat protein without the need to slaughter animals. (The nascent industry prefers the term "cultivated meat" over "lab-grown" or, too unappealing to even be considered, "vat-grown.")
The Food and Drug Administration approved Upside Foods' chicken as safe for human consumption in 2022, but the company ran into a problem: States were banning its products before they even reached the shelves.
Seven states currently prohibit cultivated meat. Texas became the latest in June. "It's plain cowboy logic that we must safeguard our real, authentic meat industry from synthetic alternatives," Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller said in a press release celebrating the law.
The first state to pass a ban was—you guessed it—Florida. DeSantis signed Senate Bill 1084 into law in May 2024, making it a second-degree misdemeanor, punishable by a maximum fine of $500 and up to 60 days in jail, to manufacture or distribute "any meat or food product produced from cultured animal cells." Businesses that violate the ban can lose their operating licenses and be slapped with fines of up to $5,000 per violation.
These bans are sops to the agriculture industry. At DeSantis' press conference to sign the bill into law, a sign on his podium read: "SAVE OUR BEEF." But the laws are also culture-war posturing. Red meat for the base, as they like to call it in politics.
Lawmakers' opposition to lab-grown meat is packaged in rhetoric that often echoes the "Make America Healthy Again" (MAHA) crowd. As Reason's Elizabeth Nolan Brown explained in this magazine's July cover story, the loose MAHA movement combines crunchy, back-to-the-earth foodie and wellness culture with anti-elite skepticism of public health experts on subjects such as diet and vaccines. The disparate strands of MAHA congealed in the incubator of extended COVID-19 lockdowns, not unlike chicken cells in a nutrient bath. This has led to a notable shift in right-wing food politics, which used to reflexively oppose government finger-wagging about junk food.
"Florida is fighting back against the global elite's plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs to achieve their authoritarian goals," DeSantis declared when he signed Florida's law banning cultivated meat. Nebraska Gov. Jim Pillen called his state's prohibition on cultivated meat an effort to "battle fringe ideas and groups to defend our way of life."
In the bizarre, zero-sum logic of politicians like DeSantis and Pillen, the freedom to eat bacon harvested from a pig that was alive and sensate before it was slaughtered is contingent on consumers never being given a choice to try an alternative, and for entrepreneurs to be banned from trying to bring alternatives to the market.
Upside Foods filed a lawsuit in August 2024 alleging that Florida's ban on cultivated meat violates the federal Constitution's Commerce Clause because the law was enacted to shield in-state producers of conventional meat from competition from out-of-state producers of cultivated meat.
The Good Food Institute, a nonprofit that promotes the development of plant-based and cultivated meat alternatives, argues that cultivated meat could have several potential advantages over conventional meat production: It uses less arable land and resources, and it avoids some of the biggest negative externalities of industrial feedlots and slaughterhouses—disease outbreaks, heavy use of antibiotics, bacterial contamination, and noxious pollution.
If the cattle industry really couldn't survive the competition, if consumers would buy alternatives in such numbers that it would drive old-school ranchers out of business—even as DeSantis and Pillen insist that regular, God-fearing Americans don't want rib eye grown in a vat—then why are we better off shielding it with protectionist laws?
Not all cowboys see the logic in it. Many trade associations for beef producers support clear labeling requirements for cultivated meat but oppose outright bans. Jim Jenkins, a Nebraska cattle rancher, told the Flatwater Free Press that he thinks cultivated meat should be labeled, but adds: "In the good old United States of America, I think people should be able to compete, even if that threatens my business."
Wyoming and South Dakota lawmakers voted down bills banning cultivated meat this year, citing free trade concerns.
Meanwhile, the bans are having a predictable effect on investor confidence. Although the cultivated meat industry has received regulatory approval for several more products, the industry raised only $139 million in 2024, its lowest amount in five years.
The Coming Panopticon
What makes the creation of new criminal statutes especially worrisome is law enforcement's sweeping power to search and investigate targets, including across state lines.
The slow accretion of surveillance tools in the decades since 9/11, often justified for emergencies and for fighting terrorism, has enabled police to tap into vast, nationwide databases of personal information for routine investigations—facial recognition, cellphone surveillance, license plate tracking, sophisticated social media monitoring, and more.
With every new criminal statute, the reach of this network extends further.
In May, 404 Media reported that a Texas police officer accessed a private network of 83,000 automatic license plate readers (ALPRs), operated by the company Flock, to search for a woman believed to have self-administered an abortion. That search included ALPRs in states where abortion is legal, such as Washington and Illinois. The EFF called the incident "a chilling sign of how far law enforcement surveillance has encroached on personal liberties."
"The ability for law enforcement in some states to get access to data and digital surveillance data from other states is going to be a massive problem," says the EFF's Guariglia. "This is just the first time we've seen this problem, and it will certainly happen again."
Reproductive rights groups say that these sorts of cases are popping up more and more.
"We're also seeing pregnancy loss as an increasingly suspect and potentially criminal act, whereas from our perspective, this is a health care medical incident, where someone needs often emergency medical care or just compassionate care," says Pregnancy Justice's Sussman. "But because of this post-Dobbs landscape, pregnancy loss is viewed with suspicion by law enforcement."
Many criminal investigations originate after someone close to the person getting an abortion reports it to the police. A research report published by If/When/How, a reproductive rights group that runs a legal hotline, found "about a quarter of adult cases (26%) were reported to law enforcement by acquaintances entrusted with information, such as friends, parents, or intimate partners."
The gigantic federal crackdown on immigration, which Florida's government has enthusiastically participated in, has also expanded surveillance rapidly. The Trump administration is working feverishly to streamline and tap into already existing federal data on Social Security, tax records, medical records, and student debt to identify illegal immigrants.
Suncoast Searchlight, an investigative news outlet, reported that the Florida Highway Patrol also tapped into Flock's ALPR network to aid in the state's immigration crackdown.
The Illinois Attorney General's Office has announced that it's investigating whether local police violated a state law that bars them from sharing data with out-of-state agencies seeking to enforce immigration or abortion laws. But Guariglia says the current attempts to limit this sort of interstate data trafficking between law enforcement isn't "realistically grounded in the realities of digital surveillance."
"There aren't enough protections, and even the protections that do exist don't seem to be holding," Guariglia says. "For instance, it is theoretically against the Constitution to spy on people just because of their politics. And yet that happens constantly in the United States today."
As Guariglia warns, this technology is being deployed against constitutionally protected speech. Police departments, federal partners, and private groups surveilled pro-Palestine protests across the country using social media trackers, facial recognition, and undercover investigators. In July, Straight Arrow News reported that it had found evidence of police using cellphone surveillance technology at a protest outside an ICE field office in Washington.
The huge surveillance architecture and data-sharing networks being created now won't go back in the box when the current crisis or the current administration is over, nor will they consider whether their targets used to have the right kind of politics.
Life During Wartime
Republicans like DeSantis—and pundits who champion these methods, such as the Manhattan Institute's Christopher Rufo—say they are simply using the left's playbook against it.
To hear Rufo and others tell it, they face an existential choice between fighting back with every tool available or surrendering to complete cultural and political domination by the left. Conservatism's dedication to principles such as viewpoint neutrality and the marketplace of ideas has "rendered the Right ineffective, to the point of cementing, as opposed to contesting, the status quo of Leftist hegemony," Rufo wrote in a manifesto outlining his tactics last year.
"The radical Left ruthlessly advances through the institutions, and the Right meekly ratifies each encroachment under the rubric of 'neutrality,'" Rufo continued. "In view of the social and cultural wreckage this dynamic had wrought, it is not merely a matter of preference but a matter of urgency to break it."
The problem with "wartime conservatism" and its militant leftist equivalent—although perhaps militant leftist is redundant—is that they can't tolerate deescalation, only more power and new enemies. The front lines of the culture war will only shift, never shrink.
The supporters of scorched-earth culture warring assume the tools they're unleashing won't be turned against them. Or, more cynically, that they will be able to politically capitalize off abuse against their allies and keep the cycle of endless retribution going.
That may be a way to win an election or two, but it's a long-term recipe for either a national breakdown or a complete surrender to a police state.
This article originally appeared in print under the headline "Culture War Police State."
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There are inappropriate books in our, "school" the key word here, libraries. Would you be ok with a school librarian, bringing this to our attention, Instead of concerned parents and elected officials responding to their concerns?
Who is making your children read the inappropriate books? Do your children have no agency? Did you not raise them properly?
When did I log into the Daily Kos?
2016. It definitely started heading there under Obama, but they lost it with Trump.
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"When did I log into the Daily Kos?"
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How long do you think we would last before being banned at the Daily Kos?
Just because they're as lazy in their moderation as they are in their thinking and writing doesn't change the comparison.
I had generally given Reason credit for leaving the comments section untouched, as a libertarian should. I hadn't considered it was sheer laziness. Shame on me.
They did ban MAPedo shrike’s account after he posted a link to child pornography and iirc nuked that entire article’s comments section.
When you have gone too far for Reason, you know you have a serious issue.
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"So the state has an interest in protecting me from hearing things that I want to hear?"
So that means civil rights law cannot compel an employer to consider "misgendering" an HR policy violation? Or off color jokes? Right? or is all that OK because it is technically the employer's policy and the government is only dictating the policy to them?
This did not become a pearl clutching issue until the Right started doing it.
Is the business that I own, my business, or that of Government Almighty? If I require my employees to take my training, why should State and State-Slurpported Karens, Nosenheimers, and Buttinskies be snooping on what training I require?
From the article...
"One of the most contentious provisions of the act barred private employers from requiring employees to attend workplace training that promoted any of eight concepts that the state Legislature associated with critical race theory or diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives."
And YOU slurpport the snooping, micro-managing State Karens, Nosenheimers, and Buttinskies?
WHY, Satan, WHY?!!?!? (To semi-quote and semi-colon Little Cindy Lou-Who, Who was no more than two.)
"If I require my employees to take my training, why should State and State-Slurpported Karens, Nosenheimers, and Buttinskies be snooping on what training I require?"
Because that training is complying with government requirements in the first place, you disingenuous goblin.
"Complying with government requirements" used to include returning slaves to their masters, sending Japanese-Americans to cuntcentration camps, snot allowing women to vote, and on and on. These do SNOT justify themselves!!! I own my business, if I have one, and Marxists by ANY name should BUTT OUT!!!
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Fuck off, Numbered Shrike.
The right started doing it when perverts were allowed in girls' bathrooms and locker rooms. The right started doing it when anti-racism was forced on employees in required work meetings and on students in schools. So clutch away now, bitch.
Grow up. The right started doing it when Jesus said "love your neighbor" and "clothe the poor and feed the hungry".
Washington, Oregon, and Cali lead the nation in not using police to wage the culture war.
Yes, and to their credit, they also never blessed "Hang Mike Pence"!!!
And they also don't kill or cripple womb-slaves who need abortions!
The police in Oregon are now officially ANTIFA, especially so in the leftist anus known as Portland.
While ANTIFA anarchists attack people who dare to disagree with them, the cops simply stand by and allow it to happen, they then move in and arrest the victim.
The police in Portland are effectively ANTIFA.
So continue to support anarchy in the streets and watch your cities burn to the ground.
BY the way, Trump is considering shutting off all federal aid to the city of Portland.
Do it.
Portland should be under martial law.
Portland should be under water.
^^^
At 7 inches per 100 yrs, we can think of a more immediate fate.
There is no provision in our Constitution or federal law for "martial law". That only happens in movies.
Bwaa-haaa-haaa!!!! You must drink Orange Kook-Aid by the gallon!!!!
Those MAGA strongholds of Florida and Texas probably have very lows rates of mass transit usage.
I’ve been told that is an important culture war issue. Seriously.
"Texas won a $100,000 judgment in February against Margaret Carpenter, a New York doctor who mailed abortion pills to Texas residents."
It is not as if there is compelling evidence that "abortion pills" ae dangerous to use without direct medical supervision due to the high chance of complications.
Sorry, mis-placed cumment was located here... I mis-gendered shit! So sue me!!!
DJT should tell trannies to never take those pills because they can’t get pregnant to be able to have an abortion.
Abortion pills are safe and have less complications than pregnancy.
Cite, ghoul?
Kid
That’s not a complication, dipshit.
It is when they tell on him after he finishes with them.
Thank you, 0.00 for proving the ultimate imbecility of the left.
Fuck off and die, dipshit.
Less complications than pregnancy? LMFAO allllriiiiightyyyyy then...
I know y'all lil' MAGAs hate facts, but in 2022, there were 817 deaths during childbirth or within 42 days of pregnancy in the United States, with a rate of 22.3 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births.
In 25 years, there have been 32 deaths reported among nearly 6 million women who had taken mifepristone. This calculates to an overall mortality rate of 0.54 deaths per 100,000 medication abortions.
Only 11 of these 32 fatalities were determined to be related to sepsis (infection) following the abortion. The remaining deaths were attributed to unrelated causes such as drug overdose, suicide, homicide, and ruptured ectopic pregnancies.
To be fair, this is a pretty remarkable position to hold:
“The state has an interest in protecting people from racist and offensive speech even if they would, misguidedly, welcome it.”
Welcome to Great Britain: Saying "bacon" to a Muslim gets you put in jail.
(yeah, I know, not exactly what happened. I am just reporting next year's news)
That's close to the situation.
More than 3300 British citizens are in prison for wrong think and crime speak.
https://nypost.com/2024/06/29/world-news/german-woman-given-harsher-sentence-than-rapist-for-defamation/
A German woman was handed down a harsher sentence than a convicted rapist after she called him a “disgraceful rapist pig.”
Maja R, 20, was jailed for a weekend after she was found guilty of defaming the man, who was one of nine attackers who had gang-raped a 15-year-old girl in a Hamburg park four years earlier, according to reports.
The man had only been given a suspended sentence and served no time in prison due to his age, the New Zealand Herald reported.
Hence the enduring value of Amendment #2.
Hilarious! Trump is trashing American freedom every single day and you lil' gun nuts who always bleated how you'd take up arms against government overreach are studiously silent.
To be fair, this is a pretty remarkable position to hold:
Standalone it might be. In the accurate context of "As mandated training by employers and/or educators." the position isn't really unreasonable at all.
Further, in that context, it's only really remarkable if you're a retard whose been living under a rock for 50 yrs. Otherwise, racist and sexist jokes and behavior and a refusal by an employer to address them has, sure as shit, been under the EEOC's purview to the point that Amazon and other organizations have to disclose how many women are on their boards and what everyone's pay is so that the state can protect them from the pay they negotiated for themselves.
If anything, this entire article is a testament to just how utterly stupid the people who want to unmoor (post-)modern culture from the principles of liberty and Western Enlightenment really are.
But would the EEOC even come into play if someone voluntarily sought out the exposure? Doesn’t its framework depend on unwelcome conduct that creates a hostile environment?
It’s like the attorney was arguing against haunted houses — as if the state has an interest in protecting people from fear, even when they bought the ticket.
Mr. Ohlendorf could have declined or redirected the hypothetical. Instead, he walked straight into it — and managed to make the state sound like it wants to protect adults from their own consent.
I take it that you have not been subjected to an "Anti-harassment" training seminar lately.
Oh, I have. That’s exactly why the distinction matters — those sessions exist under EEOC enforcement, not because the state has a freestanding interest in shielding people from ideas they choose to hear.
The moment the state claims that broader interest, it’s no longer regulating workplace conduct — it’s policing thought.
And again — the hypothetical could, and should, have been parried. He rushed right in.
Oh, I have.
Ah, so you're retarded *and* dishonest.
It’s like the attorney was arguing against haunted houses — as if the state has an interest in protecting people from fear, even when they bought the ticket.
Oh, wow. "Bears in trunks" retarded. The case isn't about haunted houses, you poor, morally bankrupt, dishonest, retard. The case is about employers mandating anti-harassment and behavioral racial conformity training. Try and stay within at least a couple years of the current day and within arms reach of employment and bait-and-switch, wouldja? These people aren't signing on for jobs as racial sensitivity counselors. They're signing on as accountants and engineers and getting lectures that they need to be less racist and sexist in order to do their jobs without the least implication of any compelling interest that isn't motivated by the state one way or the other.
That’s exactly why the distinction matters
If the distinction mattered, you'd note that the overwhelming majority are not because of specific EEOC enforcement but because of the freestanding and even roving interest of the EEOC to impugn any given company's behavior and/or shielding employees from their own choices and actions.
To wit, you don't address the point I raise about Amazon disclosing their pay and gender statistics under EEO-1 specifically because it's the sort of "This information is required to be disclose to the state to protect people from the pay they negotiated." it predates STOP WOKE and, as federal law, extends well beyond the state of FL.
We can keep going and continue discussing how you've apparently been living under a rock for the last 50 yrs. and/or can't comprehend ideas like arguments being made in context or smaller and larger jurisdictions and infringements on liberty but, really, at this point, you've done a pretty good job demonstrating that between Trump judges, STOP WOKE attorneys and Reason writers and commentors, you and CJ are the most dishonest, self-beclowning, and anti-liberty than anyone else involved.
I will be civil for both of us.
I’m sorry the nuance seems to have been lost. The distinction between voluntary exposure and compelled participation isn’t that hard to grasp.
I will be civil for both of us.
You idiots are nothing if not consistent about falsely conflating being nice with doing good.
From where I sit, this false sincerity and pretense of manners is the same thing as someone who says, "I'm sorry, I don't mean to seem racist but..." right before saying or doing some extremely racist and/or dishonest shit. To wit, whom did you think you were helping by pretending that taking a job and buying a ticket to a haunted house are even remotely similar?
Are you defending the people who just want to show up to work and get paid to do a job without being subject to crappy racial sensitivity jump scares or the low-IQ grifters and race-baiters who are perpetuating stereotypes by putting on a shitty carnival sideshow act that employees are mandated to attend?
You’ve mistaken courtesy for concealment. I’m not “pretending” anything — I’m drawing a conceptual line.
Voluntary exposure and compelled participation are different frameworks under law and under ethics. The haunted-house example illustrated the difference between consent and coercion.
If you want to argue that consent doesn’t matter in employment, that’s at least a coherent position — just not one I share.
Thanks for the replies. Have a good evening.
I've posted this before but...
I recently had to sit through a 30 minute DEI on “microagressions” video to check a box at work. Terrific, we’ve progressed to the point where significant effort is needed to parse out unintended insults so that EVERYONE can be offended.
A few observations:
* Among the people identified in the video as a “DEI expert” (various titles, but they boiled down to that), there was ZERO diversity; every single one of them was (or at least presented as) a black woman
* Within the panel talking about microaggressions and how they made them feel, there was not a single person who “looked like me”
* On a couple of occasions, I felt that I had been the victim of a microaggression by just watching the video; e.g., one character chastised the viewers who might be dismissive of the idea of the damaging effects of microaggressions to “not be fragile”, which of course invokes “white fragility” and is therefore clearly a racist comment
* The film noted that microaggressions are “usually unconscious,” meaning they are not intentional, but then continues to use terms like “the people targeted”, which implies intent
* The film promoted “microinclusions”, which seemed to be nothing more than demands that we intentionally should treat people of specific races, religions, orientations, and gender identities differently–with kid gloves, but somehow not in a patronizing way.
If this was recent, complain to the EEOC about a hostile work environment. Don't wait until after 2028!
"Libertarianism" 2.0?
Libertarianism is not and has never been a thing.
Thank you, 0.00 for proving the ultimate imbecility of the left.
Fuck off and die, lying pile of lefty shit.
Not to the willfully ignorant, no.
Never elected, never popular, too out of touch, too weird. Sorry, not a thing.
Israel vs. Palestine is, narratively, a thousand-year literal cultural war that virtually every nation on Earth from the UN on down has had a hand in, but TX, FL, and Trump saying, "Not violent and disruptively on our college campuses." is Conservatives unfairly getting involved in the culture war.
You don't support education or enlightenment or liberty or free speech or peaceable assembly. You're just a worthless, lying agitator having trouble finding repeat subscribers to pay attention to your destructive stupidity.
From the article:
"This all comes with a price tag. Tampa Bay radio station WUSF reported that it will cost Hillsborough County Public Schools roughly $345,000 in labor to finish reviewing the roughly 600 books flagged by the state. That's an awful lot of money to make sure teenagers read fewer books."
Cuntsorevaturds and RePoopLicKKKunts: "If shit costs us ten trillion dollars to emprision, torture, and punish ONE tranny, drag queen 'show-girl', or smutty and slutty pubic-school librarian, then shit is ALL worth it!!! Especially if there is pubically-available video of the punishment process. Asking, for a fiend of mine."
Any word on Minnisota, Cali, and Oregon where the state can kidnap your child if you don't play into your child's delusion?
Reason is such a trash heap now, it embarrassing.
Just another reason to leave Minnesomalia, Commiefornia and the ANTIFA capitol of America, Oregon.
Home and private schooling is the answer.
Yes, the word is that you are full of shit.
Did you say that while looking in a mirror, Molly?
The way you insult people reveals a low iq, low levels of creativity and a mind that is on a childish plane of development. You are likely socially severely challenged and probably a virgin.
You only wish you’ve advanced that far.
Thank you, 0.00 for proving the ultimate imbecility of the left.
Fuck off and die, shit-for-brains.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-services-benefits/medical-assistance-dying.html
Don't you have anything better to do than post and reply under different socks Sqrlsy?
Right wing rejects are losing their calm for good reason right now
And to think, you're just a reject from life.
Lol. The left wing rejects in Portland and Chicago look pretty “calm” right about now.
Thems yer stormtroopers, fiddy. I’m sure victory is right around the corner.
Haha. Idiot.
How dare normal everyday Republicans want to keep pornography out of our children's libraries. The funniest thing is to see a parent read from and show some of these books from grade school libraries at school board meetings only to get shut down and told the material is not appropriate.
The far left Democrat cultist party is the party of pedos
Biden then sends his FBLie to arrest any parent who complains.
How dare normal everyday Republicans want to keep pornography out of our children's libraries.
Not just normal, everyday Republicans either. They're back to the "Book Ban!" idiocy that didn't work when "Don't Say Gay!" failed, even after people like Scott Shackford were saying, "Maybe this sex/gender rights thing has gone too far."
Even many liberals would, rightly and intelligently, rather see "Blowjobs: An Instructional Manual" shelved in the back of the adult section alongside The Anarchist Cookbook, Mein Kampf, and The Turner Diaries rather than front-and-center in the children's section and would recognize that it's not some 1A-assassinating infringement of liberty for an adult librarian to get a minor's parent to check out the book rather than giving the minor the book themselves.
That's a big key to this, Reason and the MSM has been pretending for 30 yrs. that this is all just obscure, Westboro Baptist Conservatives who've been screeching and gaining traction when even relatively dimwitted political agnostics can see that Westboro-style fundamentalism is as irrelevant as they've ever been and the media and associated activists are dishonestly, and openly, pushing their own agenda.
Strangely, the people against Book Bans®™ are not so eager to have Playboy and Hustler in high school libraries.
Not gay enough.
To say nothing of The Turner Diaries or The Camp Of Saints even though the latter has a depiction of a massive orgy that includes children.
Again, they aren't about including all stories and letting everyone speak on an equal platform, they're explicitly trying to shelve their agenda above and ahead of anyone and everyone else's to the point of ensuring their positive depiction propaganda is in and *any* negative depiction, even incidental, is out.
looks like we have another far left Democrat cultist pedo here
Reporting on state government restrictions on liberty is left wing now? So the cultists seem to believe. How dare Reason publish such articles! They should be more like Newsmax or Justthenews.
Sheesh, you cultists are such authoritarian scum
Like the articles you cite, you dont read actual comments either.
I do love how angry you retards get at JTN who actually cite the sources of their information. Retards prefer narratives though. Usually by just reading the headlines.
You're a sick fuck saying that giving porn to children is liberty and your right to do so should be protected.
You clearly didn't read the story
You clearly have a reading comprehension problem.
Your comment says that not being able to put porn into elementary school libraries is a restriction on liberty.
Holy fuck, Reason. Conservatives started the culture war, including using government to ban contrary views?
How retarded are you and/or do you think we are?
The level of belief in retardation is not a factor; the fact that we still click links is.
*This doesn't just implicate the freedom of trans people or high schoolers who want to read Toni Morrison...*
The inability of Reason to recognize that children have no right to access hardcover homophelia at the expense of TAXPAYERS says a great deal about just how libertarian the publication is.
Next thing you know they’ll be banning mass transit! The monsters!
TL;DR but I can summarize the truth:
1. Government runs schools that become the default in the business. They have mandatory curricula and build bathrooms too.
2. The "left" goes crazy and uses the above institutions to conduct mishigos most people wouldn't go along with.
3. The "right" (which these days includes the center) uses the governmental tools available to counteract the above-referenced mishigos.
4. HyR calls the action of #3 a police state.
Nice summary.
4. HyR calls the action of #3 a police state.
(cont'd.)
Repeat with banking regulation policy.
Repeat with trade policy.
Repeat with healthcare policy.
Repeat with social media regulation policy.
Repeat with energy regulation policy.
They aren't even reluctantly and strategically supporting the
BidenHarris Party any longer. They're picking up pieces of the wreckage out of the smoldering crater and saying "This would still fly if Conservatives hadn't ruined it!"Utterly broken.
This x 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Repeat with banking regulation policy.
Repeat with trade policy.
Repeat with healthcare policy.
Repeat with social media regulation policy.
Repeat with energy regulation policy.
The left did it first.
The left did it first.
The left did it first.
The left did it first.
The left did it first.
That makes whatever the right does ok.
Your strawman is boring.
Once again, Reason looks at the people with defensive knife wounds all over their face and arms and chastises them for what they were wearing and reminds them they have a duty to flee.
It's worse than that. Reason thinks taxpayers should be forced to pay for the knife.
Who do they think is paying for all that kiddie porn in the high school library, let alone the high school itself?
Sounds about right.
"The left did it first and you didn't complain, so whatever the right does is ok."
You didn't complain when Democrats did it you hypocrite! That makes it ok!
Youre a hypocrite. Yes.
They didn't just not complain when the left did it, they never reported it, and now claim it never happened.
Yeah. If I searched the archives I'm sure I'd find articles complaining about it, and you would immediately move the goalposts from "Reason never complained or reported it because they're a bunch of leftists" to "Reason complains about Trump more because they're leftists."
I mean, yeah, sure they mention people like self-described libertarian, Michael Shellenberger, but it comes with throat-clearing and plenty of c'mon man, masks aren't mere talismans!
I wouldn't call Michael Savage a libertarian.
I wouldn’t call you a libertarian either, Sarc.
Who said Michael savage was libertarian? Do you really think savage = shellenberger are same/same?
Seriously?
Great job conflating removal of PORNOGRAPHY and sexually suggestive and permissive reading materials from school libraries into accusing the Trump administration of pushing Authoritarianism and a police state across the country.
FFS. How gross. I mean wtf is wrong with you? Are you angry because you can't sit down with a 6 year old and read porn with them? Can't steer a child away from biology and steal their innocence in some sick attempt to groom them?
The fucking culture war is being waged by democrats against America, traditions, norms, culture, fiscal responsibility, personal liability, accountability and common sense.
People see it, understand it, do not like it and are going to end it. The 30% of sick, twisted, narcissistic and power hungry are no longer going to push around the rest of the country any longer.
Sounds like someone afraid of his own proclivities.
Sounds like someone has no arguments. I guess insults are about the best one can offer when they support the indefensible.
Gee another comment from the 30%...
Great job conflating removal of PORNOGRAPHY and sexually suggestive and permissive reading materials from school libraries into accusing the Trump administration of pushing Authoritarianism and a police state across the country.
Once again, ridiculously dishonestly and divisively no less.
The Camp of Saints is a piece of literature as pointed and relevant as Fight Club or Catcher In The Rye or The Handmaid's Tale. I don't think *every* school or public library *should* shelve it. I don't think *none* should shelve it either. I absolutely understand if grade school and even middle school libraries across whole states, including all of them, don't shelve it or any of those books. And that's not really that insane a position in any dimension.
Reason is just abjectly retarded about this.
“Are you angry because you can’t sit down with a 6 year old and read porn with them?”
Oh, they can still do that. They’re just butthurt that some Neanderthal conservatives don’t wanna pay for it with their tax dollars. Or have blue hair teachers (that they also pay for) reading it to their children.
Those monsters and their infernal culture war! What’s next, banning mass transit? Lol.
Texas and Florida Have Become National Models for Using the Police State To Wage Culture War Battles
Ahahahahahahaha! HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA! AAAAAAAAhahahahahahahahaha! HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Lmao conservatives are ruined ahaahahahaaaaahahahaa
Thank you, 0.00 for proving the ultimate imbecility of the left.
Fuck off and die, fuckface.
Schools and libraries have no business promoting trans, homosexuality, lesbianism or any other form of deviancy to young children. period.
The reason people elect such representatives is to represent their goals, values and ideology.
The left wants to destroy everything and rebuild it in their own twisted ideals.
Those to the right of the left including centrist, middle of the road Americans are now considered right wing extremists. This is how the leftists operate. They are now losing every battle on the political front as Americans, by and large have rejected the leftist ideology of destruction and social engineering. The past five years of such social and political insanity can be used as a lesson on how far the left will go to achieve their goals.
The left has attacked every social, political and economic system that has made America great. They are losing and they don't like it one bit.
Expect more violence, anarchy and destruction. If it's violence they want, then violence they will receive.
Welcome to American fascism.
Indeed!
You "conservatives" have a duty to flee!
Oh my god, i just love everything that triggers conservatives whiny little feelings.
"Waaah! Waaaah! Ron DeSantis... who's literally worse than Donald Trump is pushing back! WAAAAH! WAAAAH! Why can't we agree to disagree and cut your kids tits and uterus out without interference from parents!"
Thank you, 0.00 for proving the ultimate imbecility of the left.
Fuck off and die, shitstain.
That’s not the trigger you should worry about being pulled you dirty pinko pedo.
"Welcome to American fascism."
We saw you arrive. Now fuck off and take your fascism with you, asswipe
The state has been a testing ground for the conservative movement's policy wish list on everything from public camping bans to expanding the death penalty to gutting civilian police oversight boards.
And most famously and successfully, Covid policy.
The state has been a testing ground for the conservative movement's policy wish list on everything from public camping bans
Jesus H. Christ this rag is packed with half-wit retards. It's a culture war testing ground to reverse the fucking camping-is-allowed-anywhere testing ground that totally wasn't a culture war?
Goddamnit this magazine is completely infused with a bunch of crypto-Marxist retards.
Hey C.J., when California passed a literal law demanding that schools maintain secret communications with your children, would it be KulturWar hurr durr to reverse that fucking abomination of a grooming law?
Yes. The attack isn't the atrocity, the response is. Pretty sure I can guess who CJ thinks is the aggressor in Israel V Hamas.
Never forget who the aggressor was in the "culture war".
I like how the left has been illegal slide-tackling, clipping, filling their boxing gloves with lead weights, corking their bats, hitting below the belt, injecting their race horses with hormones, ballot-box-stuffing, blood doping and eye gouging for the last 30 years and suddenly two refs call them on it and Reason has a whiny freakout about how it's all so unfair.
To wit, Portland's mostly-peaceful, quiet protests have been ignited by Trump!
Ahh yes, what do the numbers show! Fun with statistics... Let's check in with what the local businesses actually report:
Article date: Sept. 24, 2025
And if you push back 1 fucking inch, you're implementing a "police state".
Good for Nike. The more businesses leave that dung hole, the better. Let those who supposedly run that town have a temper tantrum, wailing, crying and moaning while their revenues continue to slide and ANTIFA continues its take over of the city.
Portland can join San Francisco, Oakland and Chicago as towns that threw it all away.
Just let them suffer and don't force taxpayers to bail them out.
Let them all fail.
I think Nike should be forced to stay. They in no small part helped build the cultural rot in Portland. Stick around and enjoy the fruits of your efforts, heroes.
The US has been fighting culture wars ab initio. To suppose that only the left were starting/fighting a culture war and that the right are merely fighting back righteously is absurd.
It's a simple formula.
People complain about the right doing something that the right would complain about if the left did the same thing.
The people on the right then say that the left did it first, doesn't matter what "it" is.
The people on the right who only complain about the left and would never complain about the right then project their blind partisanship onto whoever complained about them, and claim the person complaining didn't complain when the left did it. And they honestly believe it. When presented with proof that they are wrong they just wave it away and continue claim that that person never complained, or move the goalposts and claim they didn't complain enough.
Finally, after declaring that person to be a hypocrite (tu quoque), the people on the right smugly sit back, declare victory, and then jerk each other off.
Conservatives have always been reacting to the liberal (or left depending on how far something is pushed) instigation of change. It’s kind of conservatives whole schtick (you know, conserving the current culture/hierarchy/power structure). It may not always be righteous.
Only problem with your theory is that the GOP is populist, not conservative.
Yeah, I’m not a fan of populism. It tends to bring out the worst in people — resentment instead of reflection, slogans instead of substance. This thread is running pretty lean and is sadly representative of the type of discourse that occurs in these threads.
Remember, anyone to the right of Karl Marx is a conservative or even a right wing extremist.
Oh that's funny.
You do realize that Trump and his minions call anyone who disagrees with him a Marxist, right? Doesn't matter if they're conservative or progressive. If they disagree with him then they're leftist Marxists with TDS.
Don't like masked federal agents arresting people in courthouses? Leftist Marxist with TDS.
Support free trade? Leftist Marxist with TDS.
Think that the federal government has no business having stakes in businesses? Leftist Marxist with TDS.
Oppose industrial policy? Leftist Marxist with TDS.
Support free speech? Leftist Marxist with TDS.
The irony is that Trump has more in common with leftist Marxists than with conservatives, yet that's the go-to attack for anyone who doesn't like his policies.
Shows just how stupid his defenders are.
I said conservative because not everyone who is conservative/right leaning is with the GOP and assumed that since SRG2 had said left and not “Democrat” he wasn’t necessarily commenting specifically on the parties.
Is it your contention that populism can’t be conservative or just that the populism of the GOP isn’t conservative?
Populism tends to be like turd flavored ice cream. Don’t matter how you dress it up. It’s still shit.
I’m not sure I necessarily agree with that, but I think I see where you’re coming from at least.
"To suppose that only the left were starting/fighting a culture war and that the right are merely fighting back righteously is absurd."
To supposed otherwise is idiotic, but look at the source.
If states can pass laws governing how eggs sold in the state are produced, why can't they pass laws governing how protein is produced? If this suit is successful half of California's laws could be considered invalid. California's fuel standards? Designed to eliminate competition from out of state producers. California's free range animal laws? Designed to eliminate competition from out of state producers.
Just wait until gasoline hits $8.00/Gal. and diesel goes through the roof.
It's going to suck greatly to live there.
CA, OTOH, just spent $X,000,000.00 on a one-issue special election, specifically aimed at TX redistricting.
But CA isn't involved in culture wars is it?
I've been trying to convince people that Wyoming is too large to govern properly and it should be split into 4 states. Also, 8 senators is better than 2. Show California how to culture war properly.
Just end publicly funded libraries already. Stock your private library however you want.
lol these genz jOuRNaLisTs are always incredible to read.
Florida and Texas are complete amateur hour when it comes to waging culture wars with the police state.
In California it has been mandated for toy stores to have gender neutral sections for gender neutral toys.
The Left's ideology is much more fragile than the Right's. On the Left, you have to agree 100% to the Current Thing or you're out. Not so on the Right. There, you do have to agree on a few fundamentals such as freedom of speech, but otherwise you won't be disowned and kicked out of the party because you support even hot-button positions such as abortion.
This is probably because the Left has conflated "church" and state -- where "church" is referring here not to organized religion, but to an organized secularism that is held as if it was a religion. You must be a True Believer to be on the Left. There is no other kind.
This is why to be a Democrat you must support even an evil person such as Jay Jones, running for Attorney General in Virginia. This is a candidate who not only tweeted that he wished that someone would murder his opponent and his wife and children, but that he would piss on their graves if it happened.
A more unhinged, unsuitable, disgusting person could not be imagined as the chief law enforcement officer of my beloved state.
But he must be supported if you are a Democrat. He's a black man and a Democrat. It's a lock.
If the Left were more forgiving about its ideologies, if it allowed more flexibility from its supporters without being evicted, then a normal Democratic Party voter could condemn people like Jay Jones without fear.
But they cannot.
The Left is too fragile.
The Left also has to LIE about their positions on most issues. The Right tends to be quite open about theirs.
With the leftists, it's all or nothing, much the same with the Marxists.
The left has always had a totalitarian bent but now it's out in the open and full on. They get their way or else......
hence, the violence and destruction.
Jay Jones also said: ""Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head."
And the text exchange gets worse as he double, triple, and quadruples down on that sentiment. It wasn't a one-off oopsie, did I say that? thing as he added "Spoiler: put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst people you know and he receives both bullets every time"
Yeah, and they use the FBI and the DOJ to persecute dissidents.
Oh, wait! That was Biden and Garland.
I'm sorry, have you NEVER HEARD OF CALIFORNIA??!!??
"If I'm a criminal, it's going to be so hard for me to live a normal life...
But you're not trying to live a normal life. You're being flagrantly abnormal, and daring everyone to try to stop you. Live a normal life, and you won't have this problem.
private actors and institutions should be able to find their way to a bathroom policy without a criminal statute to refer to.
So, you're suggesting vigilantiism?
As Colorado would say: "Just bake the fucking cake!"
What amazes me is how you take the exact WRONG lesson from all this. It's the SAME lesson you failed to learn about Trump. When the house is on fire, they're going to look for someone to put it out. Not for someone to say, "Well, maybe this is a good thing."
If you want to prevent the police state, then you need to do your friggin' part as a citizen in the war on American culture. The Founders were explicit about this. The nation WOULD FAIL unless good, moral, and religious people shouldered it.
And those are the people who seem to be your mortal enemy.
Let me explain your American citizenship in three examples:
You need to be AGAINST the rainbow cult. Every kid they rape, every school they shoot up, every psychotic manifesto of theirs that's posthumously published is the rest of America saying, "Why hasn't someone DONE SOMETHING about them?"
Enter the police state. Because YOU failed in your responsibilities at a citizen, the rest of us had nowhere else to turn.
You need to be AGAINST abortion. It's killed more tiny humans than every historical atrocity combined. And now you're not even hiding behind the "safe, legal, and rare" canard. Now it's "on demand, for any reason, we'll ship you the drugs, hope you don't die while you kill."
Enter the police state. Because YOU failed in your responsibilities at a citizen, the rest of us had nowhere else to turn.
You need to be AGAINST illegal immigration. They're running amok, looting an already bankrupt nation, bringing crime and drugs and all the cultural "values" that America is 100% against. You claim that diversity is our strength, but that's a lie. It's their strength to use AGAINST us.
Enter the police state. Because YOU failed in your responsibilities at a citizen, the rest of us had nowhere else to turn.
Want me to keep going? BECAUSE I CAN KEEP GOING.
Texas and Florida are replying - rightfully - for a demand to return to order and rule of law. The American people are SICK of the chaos and anarchy that the likes of California and New York and Illinois would shove down our throats. But they also know that if they start taking matters into their own hands, they're crossing a Rubicon much worse than a police state.
You leftist pukes don't get it, CJ. Maybe you don't WANT to get it. You're about one step away from the American People responding FAFO to every ICE protest, abortion mill, and gay pride parade. Maybe that's your goal - bring them so low that their only recourse IS violence. You shot one of their favorite civil rights leaders in the throat, after all. It's hard to think you're doing anything BUT goading them at this point.
We don't want a police state, CJ. But you're not leaving America any other choice. Because you - YOU - refuse to be an American Citizen. And so does everyone you support and defend.
The authors left out Oregon and particularly Portland where the police are obviously part of ANTIFA.
I agree with AT, Americans are sick of the lawlessness, chaos and anarchy the left is responsible for.