Pam Bondi Is Really Wrong About Hate Speech
The attorney general is now getting called out by fellow conservatives.
Attorney General Pam Bondi has made quite the First Amendment-related faux pas: In a recent interview about what the federal government could do to deter political violence in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, she said the federal government would "go after" anyone engaged in hate speech.
Bondi should know, however, that hate speech is vigorously protected by the First Amendment, and as such, cannot be policed.
Unfortunately, the attorney general made an illusory distinction between free speech and hate speech, implying that the latter was subject to government action.
"There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society," she said.
Attorney General Pam Bondi: "There's free speech and then there's hate speech, and there is no place, especially now, especially after what happened to Charlie, in our society…We will absolutely target you, go after you, if you are targeting anyone with hate speech." pic.twitter.com/Bqj6TQOGwP
— The Bulwark (@BulwarkOnline) September 16, 2025
Bondi sounds like Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Kamala Harris' pick to be vice president, who made similar claims during the 2024 campaign—and that's a very bad thing. Both are appallingly wrong. The Supreme Court has repeatedly affirmed that so-called hate speech falls under First Amendment protection, most recently in the 2017 case Matal v. Tam, which was decided unanimously.
After numerous commentators—including many fellow conservatives—called out Bondi, she clarified that she was referring to "hate speech that crosses the line into threats of violence." She's correct that true threats of violence against specific individuals or institutions lose First Amendment protection if they are specific enough, though general advocacy of violence is usually still protected. This kind of speech isn't called hate speech though; it's called incitement. Hate speech, on its own, is simply not a separate category of unprotected speech, from the standpoint of the Supreme Court.
In a separate interview, Bondi also suggested that employers had an obligation to fire employees for engaging in hate speech or for actions such as refusing to print pro-Kirk posters at Office Depot.
Given that conservative legal advocates have worked tirelessly to defeat public accommodation laws that clash with private entities' moral, political, or religious beliefs, many on the right were not pleased to hear Bondi adopting this position. The Daily Wire's Matt Walsh called her opinion "insane" and said that President Trump should fire her. Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) similarly clarified that the First Amendment absolutely protects hate speech, while noting that individuals could still suffer professional consequences for saying cruel things about Kirk.
Ironically, Bondi could have avoided this mess had she listened more closely to one specific person: Charlie Kirk. As journalist Brad Polumbo pointed out, Kirk previously wrote on X: "Hate speech does not exist legally in America. There's ugly speech. There's gross speech. There's evil speech. And ALL of it is protected by the First Amendment. Keep America free."
Words to remember.
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Dicked magazine has a chick in charge.
See what I’m sayin?
Trump just sued NYT for unfavorable coverage. Is he a chick?
Why cant the media get away with slander?!? Sure I supported Alex Jones 1.5B and defamation cases against trump! - shrike
Libertarians for free speech except for anything they say that Trump doesn't like, which is slander.
yet you supported the lawsuit against Alex Jones
Hey, that's a lie; slander is spoken, in print its libel!
Fuck off Shirke. Don’t you have some kiddie porn to watch?
Did anyone say being a moron was something exclusive to women?
It's easy to mistake women's emotion instability with low intelligence. Among men, lack of emotional regulation is usually associated with low intelligence. Not so much with women.
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Dancing on a grave is not illegal but can subject the person to being transitioned to unemployed.
Threats are a different matter.
What about dancing on a ceiling?
Aside from the hair still a pretty cool video.
No Bondi, employers have only an obligation to run their business. And definitely shouldn't listen to anyone in the fucking government on how to do that given how in debt, morally bankrupt completely incompetent, and inefficient the federal government is ran.
That was before Trump. Today all businesses must kowtow to the Dear Leader. Just like they did to Mussolini. Freedom is over in the US.
Funny, you didn’t have a problem with Biden’s FBI and CIA telling Twitter what was allowed. So you really aren’t allowed to have an opinion here.
Not that you could influence anyone, as you are a notable buffoon.
Musk made light of Paul Pelosi being violently attacked.
If you're going to make stuff up, at least jazz it up a bit:
That was before Trump. Today, all business lay in ruins, women and children (of color) lay in ruins, the communists' plan to bring utopia lay in ruins, all smoldering beneath the wrath of orangemanbad's highly televised eleventeenth world war, available now on Hulu®.
But it was totes okay when the far left Democrat cultists did it. It is only bad now because normal Americans....Republicans....are in charge
Not going to call Robbie a trump cultist for pointing out the same facts I did earlier dumdum?
Composite isn’t exactly a democrat hallmark.
When the Biden administration influenced speech it was pure evil.
When the Trump administration influences speech it is patriotic.
Right and wrong are determined by who, not what.
How did the Biden administration “influence “ speech?
Eh? Poe's Law?
Everybody on the right has condemed this. How many people on the left condem hate speech laws? How many said social media censorship was wrong? None, they all cheered it on. Just. Like. You.
The irony is sweet - the article spells out how conservatives condemn Bondi’s words, but this ass apparently can’t read and makes as big a fool of himself.
The article says one thing. Trumpians say another.
……. Sarc says a lot of stupid things.
We aren't sure if sarc can even read and comprehend simple sentences.
As usual sarc lies. In fact the only consistent thread between sarc's positions is that he always attacks the right and defends the left even when that means violating the principles he claims to hold.
Even sarc's claim that basing right and wrong on who and not what is based on who and not what. There is simply no standard or principle he applies to himself or his allies.
I've never defended the left, dickhole. Unless you're a retarded retard who thinks that criticizing the right equals defense of the left. Which you obviously are. Both sides suck. That's why I stopped voting. But don't let what I say get in the way of your narrative about me. Keep telling lies. You would have nothing to say if you told the truth.
I've never defended the left, dickhole.
Just like you've never engaged in schoolyard taunting.
"Dem policies are based in science" said no libertarian ever, but sarc said it because this lie made attacking the right easier.
Unless you're a retarded retard who thinks that criticizing the right equals defense of the left.
Of course this does not describe what you do. When the left does something stupid you criticize the right but not the left. That's because you're a propagandist only here to protect the leftist narrative.
This exactly fits with your lie above. Cons are criticizing Bondi's comments but you assert they don't because the truth doesn't fit the narrative. Reality is simply not a relevant concern for propagandists, the narrative is.
You unwittingly proved my point.
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Why wouldn't there be? Despite all his faults, at least Biden recognizes the Constitution. Can't say the same about Trump.
sarcasmic 5 months ago
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At this moment in time, from what I've seen, the Democratic Party has more respect for liberty, both personal and economic, than Trump's Republican Party. Maybe the GOP will get back to its roots after Trump is no longer the party's god emperor. I hope so, but doubt it.
sarcasmic 11 months ago
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All she needs to say is "I'm not Trump" and leave it at that.
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It used to be that conservatives opposed personal liberty while supporting, or at least giving lip service to, economic liberty.
Because of that there was an alliance between conservatives and libertarians over economic issues. But the right has abandoned support for economic liberty while maintaining hostility towards personal liberty. That means libertarians and the conservative right have gun rights and lower taxes in common, but that's about it.
Meanwhile the left maintains their hostility towards economic liberty while supporting, or giving lip service to, personal liberty.
That means that libertarians now have more in common with the left than with the right. Not because libertarians have drifted left. Rather its because the conservative right has abandoned support for liberty in general.</b
‘Drops mic’
Republicans have never ran around and murdered everyone.
Crooks was a Republican…good riddance!
A grey box has appeared beneath my comment. Must be some retarded democrat faggot whining and lying.
When the far left Democrat cultists did it, it was great.
When the normal Republicans do it, it is bad.
Is this the limited government we wanted? Hate speech. Government telling employers what their "obligations" are.
It's not like she has the power of gov-guns at her fingertips.
or for actions such as refusing to print pro-Kirk posters at Home Depot.
Bake that cake!
Golden shares and government stakes in companies, ordering companies to fire people for disapproved speech, mandating approved speech, suing media outlets for negative coverage, attacking law firms for representing political opponents. This is the kind of Marxism that all Libertarians must support.
They weren't golden shares. We know you prefer just gold bars odd the titanic. The rest of the shit you listed was the Biden regime lol.
God damn shrike. Ignorant as usual.
So these aren't real?
* https://apnews.com/article/trump-us-steel-nippon-golden-share-pittsburgh-china-7981a41d2e518fad07c347042f9fdc38
* https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/22/tech/trump-intel-10-percent-stake
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targeting_of_law_firms_and_lawyers_under_the_second_Trump_administration
* https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-sues-cbs-news-60-minutes-interview/
* https://apnews.com/article/trump-lawsuit-new-york-times-b2a615192ebe2dcec859eb883368dfbb
"Is this the limited government we wanted?"
Most commenters here voted for this.
I voted for him to do things like declare antifa and other democrat down line groups terror organizations and get rid of the people who do things like cause the Charlie Kirk assassination, the murder of that hot Ukrainian chick by a repeat offender that should have already been locked up for the next several decades, and tranny nutcases that keep shooting us schools. And that’s just to name a few things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-8qXU_T8FU
You democrats called down the thunder, and now you’ve got it. You are all Ike Clanton.
And if she didn't want it long and hard, she shouldn't have worn that dress.
It’s going to be so awesome, when you Marxists are dealt with.
Even Not-The-Bee dunked on Blondi.
https://notthebee.com/article/how-about-no-pam-bondi-vows-to-hold-people-accountable-for-hate-speech
Yeah even the comments on that one were almost 100% not-in-favor.
But I thought the Right was just a cult and would never go against the administration...
All the folks on the Right who object will apologize within a week or get canceled themselves.
Nah, b side we aren’t calling for the murder of decent people like Charlie Kirk, or shooting up.
Is there anyone commenting here who is saying that she's good on this? Who you perceive right-wing or MAGA? Or even anyone at all?
It's more likely that Bondi gets 'cancelled' over this than the supporters. What world do you live in?
The right has been trying to give Bondi the chance to prove she isn't incompetent. I think this is the last straw for most of us.
Agree. Two big f-ups. Trump will find a way to sack her.
At appointment time, I was assured it would be Rubio or Noem. Sure, Bondi was a former Democrat and had a checkered history with regard to gun control, but she was a diligent servant. It was those real GOP zealots, the people who were grandstanding for headlines, that were going to get triggered and hulk out totalitarian style first.
You think Rubio had a record of incompetence?? Does his brown skin mean he’s incompetent?? 😉
The Right is starting to understand that Trump is an old man and quite mortal. Just as the Democrats eventually woke up at the last minute and saw that Sleepy Joe was asleep, so too Republicans will wake up and realize Trump won't be their personal messiah forever.
Just as the Democrats eventually woke up at the last minute and saw that Sleepy Joe was asleep
Dems never cared if Joe had dementia so they never woke up. They tossed him aside the second he wasn't useful just as they do everyone else.
The view is literally saying this week they should have lied more about Joe retard.
The Left was behind Joe right up until the literal moment that it was impossible for anyone to believe he was capable of winning another election, much less maintaining the ruse for another 4 yrs. Even then, they chose a *less electable* candidate.
The Right from virtually every angle has always had a tenuous and/or 'Not the hero we want, but the hero we need right now' appreciation for Trump.
If there were a Candidate as capable of telling both The Left and the GOPe to suck eggs with even slightly better policies, The Right would vote for them tomorrow.
The idea that The Right is hopelessly in the bag for Trump and every one of his policies now and forever is the same stupid false flag that The Left continues to pull where every state that isn't 99.99% Leftist is going to force women to get pregnant and bear children and put black people back into chains.
For someone so worried about Trump's time running out, you sure do have a problem with continuing to use your retarded schtick long after it's used up.
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I bet a dollar that those who go against her will see retribution long before she does.
What she said was wrong. Let's talk about what she has done that is wrong. Or talk about Garland actually going after parents for protesting a PTA. Until she crosses the line, she can be corrected.
I don’t think Democrats will even defend Garland…he’s a nothing of a person.
Bondi will never be correctly accused of legal competence as attorney general. I predict she'll get herself disbarred for attempting to misapply the law in ways which flagrantly violate the Constitution.
Naw, she'll just fade into obscurity. Won't even be a trivia game answer.
I'm sorry, the card says Moops.
*does not apply to even democrats who alter evidence.
She is such and ass licker it's disgusting.
So much hatred here as you defend the left constantly for the same stance.
How did your weekend go? Attend many assassination celebrations with your fellow travelers?
Zdravstvuyte, moi dorogiye russkiye tovarishchi.
Hate speech is protected speech. I have Trump and crew fatigue on the tail of Biden and crew fatigue. Remember when Republicans were the States' Rights people? Free trade, forget about it. I don't care about crime in cities. Let them stew in their own juices. Subtract social issues and what you have with Trump is a Democrat. I expect to hear how the Dems are worse. Probably so, I just want better. I feel most comfortable now fucking with everybody until then grown-ups return.
Another person who didnt even read the sub header.
Subtract social issues and what you have with Trump is a Democrat.
This just in, fresh from the blazing intellect of 'novalvesprings'; Trump is more like a 90s-era Democrat than an ideal conservative.
All the leftists loved the always bend the knee GOPe. People like senator Collins.
Collins voted for Kavanaugh after Trump wanted to pull his nomination. Bush ordered her to drag him across the finish line by explaining to her how she would stab Trump in the back because he’s a Bush foot soldier. So hilarious how dumb you people are!
The most advanced nations ban hate speech, which is not speech you hate or partisan speech, but speech that promotes hatred and thus leads to harm to rights of others, discrimination, denigration, persecution, and hate crimes, and if unchecked, genocide.
Bondi is trying to make hate speech what those on her enemy lists say...such as Trump is a liar or Israel is committing genocide. The essetnaiol thing is that in the dozens of nations with hate speech laws (Canada, Mexico, UK, Germany, etc) like libel it is not the partisan executive who defines and punishes it but rather the independent courts which demand evidence the speech promotes hatred.
What Bondi is doing is take a good idea (banning speech that justifies hate crimes) and ignoring the fact that it is Congress that must pass such a law and the courts that would rule on it. Taking it over to punish the Democrats ("the radical left" as Trump says, echoing Hitler) is not dealing with hate speech but creating a fascist regime that chokes free speech. Hate speech, properly understood, is the enemy of free speech and often drives it. What she is up to is making political criticism and dissent (ie free speech) into illegal hate speech, a tactic of dictators.
Retarded parody.
And I fucking fell for it. Eh, I'm leaving my post up. I can live with being duped.
It could be Poes law. But emulates parody of a retard.
No, she's taking a bad idea and running with it. And maybe the next Democrat administration takes over in four years, or eight years, or twelve years, but whenever it is, we'll get their version of hate speech enforcement added to this shit.
Fuck 'em both, and fuck you, too. And fuck your mother.
Or is that not hate speech because I left out a racial angle?
In any event, we have to get rid of the democrat party, and crush this ultra violent Neo Marxist movement.
Yeah except that these non partisan independent courts only exist in your fever dreams. When people are being put in prison because they liked a fucking Tweet that says a man can never be a woman it's just straight up totalitarian police state Orwellian distopia. If you want to own that go ahead on. But don't pretend that Bondi is even in the same world as your authoritarian heroes. Which takes us back to your preferred definition of hate speech. I have said many times that I think the creation of Israel by a bunch of Europeans in 1948 was a dumb idea. I've also opined that a two state solution which would create another homeland for a bunch of rag tag Arabs is a dumb idea. I don't hate Jews or Palestinians and wish the best for both. But if I expressed my opinions in the UK or any of the other advanced nations you celebrate I could be sitting in a prison cell for advancing an opinion that's guaranteed to piss somebody off. In your advanced nations I could be prosecuted for hate speech against Jews and Palestinians at the same time. I don't hate you because you're stupid. I hate that I wasted my time responding to your stupidity.
Since when did the Trump administration need Congress to pass laws? All he needs to do is make a presidential decree, and that is the new law.
I'm at this point willing to wait and see what Bondi actually does. The claim that hate speech, whatever that is, is a federal crime is anathema to me. But hyperbole gets a pass even from the AG for the moment. Pam Bondi is not a stupid person and she is a competent attorney, for whatever that's worth. On balance she still beats the shit out of what came before. I'm told that Bondi and Patel are toast because the MAGA base are pissed off. Watch today's standoff between Kash and Adam Schiff. I wouldn't trade Patel for anybody at this point. He is one badass mother fucker.
Violence is always unacceptable. Speech should always be protected. But as a MAGA Republican I believe in action and so in order to reach out to progressives I am going to date a trans woman….but as a Christian I am waiting until marriage, after all, why buy the bull when you can get the semen for free?? But in addition to the reaching out I also might do a little reaching around! 😉
We have a real problem now that democrat speech has created a culture where they feel free to riot, rape and murder at will.
Fuck their rights. They made all of this happen.
So January 6th never happened?? And Crooks wasn’t registered RepooplicKKKunt??
Would it be cancel culture to call for Bondi to resign over this? I mean, any AG who says shit like this should resign but I just want to know.
I just thought of a really great way to end the homeless problem—euthanize them against their will!!! I can’t believe nobody has ever thought of that!!
No, getting existing Supreme Court precedent correct seems like the bare minimum for an AG.
She's not a conservative, she's a Trump populist. Reason helps to propagate misconceptions.
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There's no such thing as hate speech Robbie. It's a fiction. If it were real there'd be all kinds of people in all kinds of political and social stripes that would be guilty. One of the biggest purveyors of hate speech, known as the Southern Poverty Law Center, have violated every law that dictates this. Making itself the arbiter of what constitutes hate speech or domestic terrorism. Those kinds of absolutes have no place in a libertarian publication. Is Pam Bondit wrong? Hell yeah. But now that Mother Jones, I mean Reason is against this and not against traditional hate speech outlets makes you and Mother Jones, I mean Reason culpable of not being able to pass basic tenets of journalism. Jesus.
Hate speech is simply speech that you don't like and find to be offensive.
Logically considering that all speech can be found offensive by someone, then all speech would be hate speech.
Actions, not words should determine crime. Speech may be taken out of context, be misspoken, be a quote or a be summary of another person's quote that could be taken out of context. It could also be defamatory, out-right lies, intentionally triggering.
The slippery slope is assigning intent, was the speech intended to be "hate speech"? How can this me measured and is this measurement subject to your personal biases?
We have free speech to to expose ignorance and stupidity and reveal truth. It works. If someone exposes bad character they might be legitimately excluded from a group. I would not want to be around someone who thinks it is ok to kill me if they don't like what I say. I also would not want them teaching children.
Prior to her comment about hate speech, I believed Bondi to be a competent constitutional lawyer.
The 1st Amendment freedom of speech, does not prohibit hate speech. Nor does it limit an individual's right to hate someone else, which would also thus restrict the freedom of association and even freedom of religion. That ensemble would effectively hobble the freedom of the press as well.
Maybe Bondi was just having a bad day and spoke hastily?