America's Two-Front War on Science
Universities’ internal culture wars threaten free speech and inquiry, but political attacks on research funding and infrastructure are crippling U.S. scientific leadership.

There is currently a two-pronged attack on higher education, research, and scholarship in the United States. Activists inside universities have hijacked many administrative functions, and significant reform is needed to ensure free speech, open inquiry, and the integrity of scholarship. But the Trump administration has used this fact to launch what may be a more dangerous direct attack on university scientific and research infrastructures across the nation. We can't afford to lose either war if we are to protect the country's scientific integrity and productivity.
Harvard University epitomizes the quandary we now find ourselves in. Over the last decade, it succumbed to much of the modern culture war in ways that have threatened faculty and students, and even prospective students. Students and researchers have alleged that Harvard has discriminated against Asian applicants, rigorously policed speech, and punished faculty whose research results didn't match preconceived notions about racism or who stated that there are only two sexes, while allowing antisemitic conduct. In addition, the university promoted staff based on identity rather than academic accomplishments, including those known to have plagiarized academic work, while discriminating against talented students and scholars on the grounds of their race or sex.
Harvard is by no means unique. Bloated diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) bureaucracies have taken root at academic institutions around the country. The University of California at Berkeley biology department, for example, in 2019, disqualified 76 percent of the applicants for a faculty position based solely on their DEI statements—before examining their research.
This behavior is seen in academia outside of universities as well. Prestigious scientific journals, such as Nature Human Behaviour, have indicated they will not publish scientific articles if they could cause offense or a sense of harm to certain groups. Physical Review, a major journal in my own field of physics, went so far as to publish a case study positing that the use of whiteboards in classrooms could be viewed as a remnant of white supremacy.
The situation has set back scientific and scholarly progress, and has undermined the credibility of many academic disciplines among the public.
At the same time, President Donald Trump has not only launched a frontal assault on Harvard but has also removed leading scientists from national advisory boards and federally supported research institutions, and declared war on universities and departments that don't bow to his political agenda. Perhaps most damaging of all, this administration is proposing to end support for most cutting-edge American research programs. This includes cutting the National Science Foundation budget by almost 60 percent, and killing major projects—from closing half of the Nobel Prize-winning Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory, to ending U.S. participation in the next generation space-based detector, to considering closing the NASA-Goddard space center, where most of the science at NASA originates.
The administration's attempts to paint all university faculty as woke are misguided. Many leading scientists and scholars have continued to push the boundaries of knowledge while either ignoring ongoing culture wars or avoiding administrative activists on their campuses. Throwing the baby out with the bathwater is never a good idea, nor is schadenfreude worth risking the future of knowledge. The proper way to fight one form of intolerance is not to impose your own brand of intolerance.
This external war on science may be, at least in the near term, more destructive than the ongoing internal culture wars within universities. The very best science programs—which are the best because they have largely avoided the current assault on scholarship—now find themselves at risk. Decimating the scientific infrastructure of the nation by disenfranchising the best researchers and defunding their programs is not something that can be quickly repaired. Postdoctoral researchers lose their positions and leave academia, and departments stop supporting graduate students, who then depart for other opportunities.
In this regard, we need to continue to recruit the best and brightest minds from around the world, both as students and researchers. But the Trump administration is also discouraging talented foreign students from studying and working in the U.S. Many of these students choose to stay in this country after their education is complete (as Elon Musk did) and create innovative technologies that sustain our economy.
Attacking the scientific infrastructure of the nation ultimately undermines the economic and security interests of the nation. Reports have repeatedly shown that modest investment in basic research yields outsized economic returns for decades. Curiosity-driven research in areas from materials science and engineering to quantum physics and immunology is crucial to supporting the health, welfare, and security of the nation, and it must not be made subservient to political goals or ideologies.
A great deal of damage has already been done. If the nation's best researchers or the next generation's emerging talent leave their fields or leave the country seeking greener pastures, U.S. competitiveness on a global scale will decline, and dominance will move elsewhere—most likely to China. If that happens, science may not permanently suffer, but the nation will.
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Universities’ internal culture wars threaten free speech and inquiry, but political attacks on research funding and infrastructure are crippling U.S. scientific leadership.
So one side says women aren't real, has claimed the world is going to end in the next 10 years for going on 30 years now, claimed that the world's deadliest virus in the history of human civilization escaped from a rare pokemon at a wet market and that masks were 75% effective... whereas the other side is refusing to fund such claims.
Bowf sidez indeed.
Spot on!!!
It's interesting that the same libertarian magazine/organization that platforms (platformed) Terence Kealey, describes clawing back research dollars from federally funded research as an "attack".
Or are we to the point that tariffs on fighter jets that we import from Switzerland is now an attack on scientific research?
There is currently a two-pronged attack on higher education, research, and scholarship in the United States.
Lemme stop you right there, is that 6 prongs total or are we short at least one prong?
.crippling U.S. scientific leadership.
Let China do it. It will be cheaper because they have comparative advantage.
^+1
"threaten free speech and inquiry"
What threatens free speech and inquiry are the Trump Administration deciding what gets funded based on criteria other than scientific merit.
" the world's deadliest virus in the history of human civilization escaped from a rare pokemon at a wet market"
This is an example of the junk science coming from the MAGA idiots. The deadliest virus in the history of human civilization is clearly smallpox and you have nothing to contribute to the discussion if you are so stupid you don't understand that.
Oh and the wet market theory was never disproven. Neither was the lab leak theory. What WAS disproven was that it was genetically engineered.
" and that masks were 75% effective"
That is indeed incorrect. The actual number is 98%:
https://sph.umd.edu/news/study-shows-n95-masks-near-perfect-blocking-escape-airborne-covid-19
I still wear N95 masks. I still haven't gotten COVID.
Nobody cares what a slimy pile of lying lefty shit lies about or does. Fuck off and die, asswipe.
And you exemplify the exact problem being inferred by this article, the fact that so many people are scientifically illiterate & care far more about identity politics than about scientific fact.
When was your last fit testing for those N95 masks?
I know you went to Harvard, but how do you not get he was mocking people like you and your overreaction to Covid?
Charliehall is the dumbest motherfucker alive.
Hmm, The Trump administration is defunding climate research to the point of burning up perfectly good satellites:
https://www.npr.org/2025/08/04/nx-s1-5453731/nasa-carbon-dioxide-satellite-mission-threatened
rather than funding Earth observations that help us learn about the planet we rely on for survival.
I'll be the first to admit that climate is extremely complex & that there is a great deal of overdramatization of the question of climate. Please tell me when the answer to questionable science has been to advocate for ignorance?
OK, perhaps you are just pointing out that the libertarian position should be no government funding of science. That being the case, I'm assuming that you are opposed to basic scientific research? The days of organizations like Bell Labs doing basic research are long gone. Astrophysics, particle physics & a good amount of other basic research will not be done in America w/o government funding. That being the case, we are ceding the future to China.
The days of organizations like Bell Labs doing basic research are long gone. Astrophysics, particle physics & a good amount of other basic research will not be done in America w/o government funding.
Exactly how many smartphones, cell networks, GPUs, LLMs, Cryptocurrencies, automated drones, jit-shipping and logistics, self-driving cars, Li-ion technology did the Large Hadron Collider spin off? Even if you chalk all of social media up as an abject failure, there's still more total productive work, total productive benefit, just in social media, than anything out of particle physics.
Dumbass.
Nobody says women aren't real, that the "world will" end in 10 years, that COVID-19 is "the deadliest virus" in human history (although, in 2000, we couldn't say it wasn't). The Chinese wet market theory remains as viable as the lab-escape theory. And this completely ignores the 99% of research that benefits everyone, and offends nobody's favorite conspiracy myth, yet Trump II has defunded anyhow. Hyperbolic paranoia is not useful argumentation.
"...has claimed the world is going to end in the next 10 years for going on 30 years now..."
They've been claiming that since the 60s with The Population Bomb.
Quite!
The US scientific establishment is a disgrace. Fully half of the research the government funds is useless or worse, and the Harvards et al are racist hives of self-righteous fools. They need serious disciplining, and, yes, some worthy projects and staff will also be inconvenienced, but the end result will be a healthier enterprise.
Lawrence M. Krauss is a theoretical physicist, author, and the president of the Origins Project Foundation. His newest book, The War on Science, an anthology containing essays by 39 distinguished scholars from around the world, was released in July 2025.
Oh Jesus. I've grown weary of "distinguished scholars".
How about "people familiar with the thinking of 39 distinguished scholars"? If it's good enough for the news, it's good enough for books!
Did they include an addendum about Hunter's laptop?
Especially theoretical physicists who refuse to call out string theory and its offshoots for the nonsense they are. They have been producing unfalsifiable papers for what, 50 years now? No predictions which can be verified or disproven. Large Hadron Collider papers with hundreds or thousands of co-authors which contribute absolutely nothing to science or humanity, and now they want a $trillion dollar replacement which wouldn't even be ready for use until 2050.
75% of medical research papers were not replicable. 90% of psychiatry papers, 100% of psychology papers, not replicable; or maybe I got those two backwards.
.5% of papers coming from paper mills churning out AI garbage solely to get more taxpayer funding.
Get your own house in order before begging for more taxes for nothing.
Amen!
I would add cosmology. Any science where one of the mainstream arguments is that it's infinitely more likely that we popped out of nothing 3 seconds ago than that history exists has lost the plot.
And most studies of the effects of climate change are models on top of models, and most of the rest are so narrowly focused that getting the "wrong" answer is completely impossible. Tens of billions are spent annually getting better measurements without even pretending that any actions will result from the increased monitoring.
Yeah, well, get off this internet thing and send back all your tech stuff from radio forward. This stuff was all conceived and realized by distinguished scholars -- you know, those with 150+ IQ, top end of the top end of the top end of graduate and postgraduate programs on the planet, publishers of original research, decades of labor -- and little pitiful you has "grown weary" of them. Ever met one?
When's the last time you read a scientific paper? There is an interesting phenomenon where the more headlines a finding receives, the MORE likely it is to be wrong. I've read numerous studies that I personally would fail at an elementary school science fair. However, it appears that they were passed through peer review because they had an eye-catching or politically favored conclusion.
I can't tell the number of papers that I've read that said all sorts of things, but the real conclusion was "it is good to be rich" (most health studies), "people complain about things that are politically acceptable to complain about and stay silent on things that are not" (almost all gender studies), "people give socially acceptable answers" (most social sciences), "every government intervention works amazingly when studied by the group that enacted it" and of course "everyone lies on surveys".
To be honest, I find I only enjoy papers either so esoteric that they are best read as fiction or so hard and concrete that they are direct results of hard engineering.
Libertarians for taxpayer dollars spent on elitist graft. I don't want one dime of my portion of the federal debt spent on any university. I don't give a shit what department it ends up in.
This is the difference between fundie libertarians like you and pragmatic libertarians like, e.g., David Brin.
Note this: Reports have repeatedly shown that modest investment in basic research yields outsized economic returns for decades.
Well then it would be worthwhile for people to invest in basic research without government force, shrike.
No, basic research as always been in the realm of governments. This is often because there is no direct payoff from basic research. It is applied research building on the basic research that is often privately funded because there are opportunities for profit from the applications. Stop the basic research and you dry up the well that the private sector uses for applications.
WE MUST CONTINUE TO DO THINGS THIS WAY ALWAYS!
The problem here is that there is no model for doing things differently. Private funding is not going to do basic research. Instead other countries will do the research and their businesses will get first crack at doing the applied research that yields profits.
Two questions:
Do we need to do basic research?
If yes, Could we get the same result from lower investment simply by investing less? As many people have pointed out, from an output perspective, the science industry produces more papers now than ever before. However, the replication crisis indicates many if not most are incorrect. And actual scientific breakthroughs have become much smaller and rarer. And you have numerous academics who have spoken out about how much of scientific "progress" is make-work to increase citations and personal prestige.
Finally, a lot of basic research was done privately. Especially in the realms of engineering and electronics, almost all was privately funded. Bell Labs and RCA together invented most of the modern world. Indeed, Bell Labs, now a division of AT&T has 12 Nobel prizes to its credit, despite being fully corporate.
Wrong.
" This is often because there is no direct payoff from basic research."
Correct. The anti-research crowd here wants more people to die.
Wrong. Steaming piles of lefty shit here lie. Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Yes, I'm sure trying to find the 78th gender yielded tons of economic returns.
Funny, but not an argument,
Sure it is. As valid as yours claiming they provide an ROI.
Neither was your comment he was responding to.
Where is this alleged ROI? Nobody is ever to place it.
"Funny, but not an argument,"
Which makes it better than your bullshit.
A) reports from whom
B) would the efficiency increase outside of academia
C) who paid for the reports, people seeking public funding?
It is also the difference between libertarianism informed by logic and reason, and a 'libertarianism' that is motivated by impulse and emotion. "You elitists won't tell me what to do!!!" is a tantrum not a policy.
People like GG resent smart people knowing more than they do because it reminds them of how little they really know.
Don’t take my money to fund a bunch of bullshit =\= "You elitists won't tell me what to do!!!" Lying Jeffy.
"I don't like what a small number of smart people are saying so I will cut them all off regardless of the consequences, so that I have better feelz." -- what passes for "libertarian thought" around here
LOL "smart" people.
GMAFB
Can you cite this impressive scholarship over the last, say, 20 years?
Do you think the entirety of scientific research in the past 20 years has been about masks and gender identity? Nothing at all in the fields of, say, chemistry, biology, physics?
Let me know when that happens at the university level.
Feel free, again, to list this impressive scholarship. You, it should be noted, did not do so.
I did not bring up masks. Was not even thinking about masks. That is your obsession.
Heck, I am not even bringing up that whole pesky "non-replication of experiments" problem that has been going on.
Intelligence aside, cut them off from what?
Does intelligence give you a right to other people’s money against their will?
No, it doesn't. But be cognizant of the predictable consequence of your policy preferences, as I note below.
Also, if you are going to invoke the "taxation is theft" argument, I expect you to apply that argument consistently. What do you think about the taxation to, say, fund useless border walls or ICE
concentration camps"detention centers"? Why are they entitled to other people's money against their will?Eliminate all forms of govt welfare and the net savings would be even greater. Though some rapefugees would likely still want to visit and rape/murder where, absent of anarchists and the pro rape people, folks expect govt to provide a level of security such as no invasions and working to curtail raping and murdering.
Hayek and Friedman were experts -- at logic and reason.
Libertarianism today isn't about Hayek and Friedman. They actually saw a role for government. Today's Libertarians want the US to become like Somalia -- no government at all.
No government = anarchy
Less government (limited government) = libertarianism
Charlie sure is a lying pile of ignorant lefty shit, ain't he?
Oh get the fuck over yourself.
Modest is not government policy. Modest is what private parties do that politicians dump on as an excuse for government takeover and ten or a hundred times as much spending.
No thank you!
No, shitstain, this is the difference between libertarians and lying lefty piles of shit like you.
"Reports" also show public spending on private sports teams returns sufficient economic growth to pay for itself. Reports lie.
But it does -- as long as you count the wages paid to construction workers and the cost of materials on "income" side rather than the "expenses" side of the ledger.
So, presumably, you would never send your kids to "any university." Presumably because, as a loyal medieval restorationist, you want universities to disappear. Oh, wait. Universities first appeared in the 11th Century. Of course, in those times the only subject of study was theology, so maybe you're cool with that.
Nothing left to cut!
Oh boy.
"Reports have repeatedly shown that modest investment in basic research yields outsized economic returns for decades."
$1 million in gain of function virus research yielded economic losses totaling $16 trillion
In Soviet Union science wages war on you. Anecdotally the same thing happens in the USA.
Wait, wait, wait... as proof that modest investments in basic research yields outsized economic returns we get a citation of the National Academic Press?
Wolves feeding on sheep provide data supporting outsized economic returns from the wolf community from modest
sacrificinvestments of additional sheep. Everyone involved might as well say they failed a HS ethics class. Fuck you deluded, self-righteous asshats.Gain of function research did not cause the COVID pandemic.
Did Josie just read this?
“Once they get a government program in, even one with “good intentions”, it becomes a special privilege for a few people, and those people have an enormously strong interest in maintaining it.”
-Murray Rothbard
https://x.com/TRHLofficial/status/1956044032427045022
"Don't feed the animals, they become dependent on hand outs."
If you give them a fish they'll teach themselves to knaw your arm off.
The US created a tea importation board in 1897 to verify "that the tea should be rejected if it was unfit" which bureaucrats of course expanded to include tea tasting. It was finally abolished in 2023, 27 years after its budget had been zeroed out and was no longer taste-testing tea.
https://reason.com/2024/03/17/after-a-century-the-federal-tea-board-is-finally-dead/
"The tea industry fought for the board's survival"
Of course! Businessmen do not want free competition. They want government protection. Tariffs are a form of that. Libertarians ought to be at the lead in demanding the end of all tariffs but instead the commenters here are all-in to defend every stupid Trump policy.
Refusing to fund shit "science" by shit DEI "scientists" is not "an attack on science."
Thanks for playing.
Sabine Hossenfelder has a good take on why science needs to clean its own house before begging for more taxes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yPy3DeMUyI
+1 This exact video came to mind when I read "theoretical physicist, author, and the president of the Origins Project Foundation".
Good stuff.
Harvard has a 56 billion dollar endowment they can fund their own research.
Also Harvard medical literally make up results using photoshop.
The Sugar study by the leading scientists at Harvard caused the world's medical science to turn away from sugar and focused on fat which caused major harm, some death and cost many years of funding to be absolutely wasted.
Scientific integrity has become an oxymoron for the vast majority of the scientific community because truth does not always pay the bills.
Okay, lobbyist for Big Sugar.
That’s really the best you could do? Really?
The endowment is not for research. Harvard is doing research the federal government ASKED them to do.
This particular line really sets the tone of the article. It really ties it all together.
What scientific integrity would that be? Does productivity include proving that math is racist and eliminating the 75% unreplicable medical research? Does it include needing billions more dollars for more climate research, when climate science is settled and shouldn't need more research? Or perhaps education to all those climate scientists --
* If it's science, it's not settled.
* If it's settled, it's not science.
Get back to me on that and I'll get back to you with more questions about scientific integrity and productivity.
* If it's science, it's not settled.
* If it's settled, it's not science.
Yeah, those Laws of Thermodynamics are really kind of up in the air. Who knows if they are really true or not?
Mask up Lying Jeffy!
Keerist, are you actually agreeing that global warming is a fraud and not science?
climate change =/= laws of thermodynamics
Exception to laws of thermodynamics.
Poor, fat jeffy.
This is a scientific clickbait article. It is not an "exception to the laws of thermodynamics". It is a result that is inconsistent with the laws of thermodynamics IFFF you ignore the magnetic properties of the suspended nanoparticles. And obviously, since these particles are magnetic, their magnetic properties can't be ignored.
The Exception to the Laws of Thermodynamics
The laws of thermodynamics, which describe the relationship between heat, work, and energy, are a cornerstone of classical physics. However, the phenomenon of superconductivity, where certain materials can conduct electricity with zero resistance, is an exception to the laws of thermodynamics.
Superconductivity is a result of the pairing of electrons in a material, which leads to a loss of electrical resistance.
Poor Jeffy.
That claim is just plain wrong. Many people think that superconductivity violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics. But that is not true. The superconducting state is a low-entropy state, but the thermodynamic cost to create that state in the first place - namely, cooling the material down to low temperatures - requires the generation of a great deal of entropy. So overall there is still a net entropy gain. The fact that superconductors DON'T violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics is one reason why developing room-temperature superconductors is such a challenge.
But, keep going. Maybe if you do enough superficial Google searching, you will discover that one thing that all the scientists from the past 400 years missed and you will win a Nobel Prize for overturning the Laws of Thermodynamics!
it's like you don't understand that YOUR argument means that this is NOT 'settled'.
As Jeff said, if you can show that it isn't settled, you will get a Nobel Prize.
But you won't.
May I suggest that you and the sloppy chemist each travel to an absolute zero temperature environment. Then when you both return, you could share your observations and perhaps convince Aza to change his position. For science of course.
The non-snarky response is:
Yes there is such a thing as "settled science". There are certain scientific facts and laws and theories that are, to the best of our knowledge, universally true. In some theoretical and abstract sense it may be possible that the First Law of Thermodynamics, or the Atomic Theory of Matter, will be overturned someday by some new experiment, but that is very highly unlikely.
If "science" is viewed as so uncertain that nothing can be definitively known about anything, because it is never "settled", then that makes the entire scientific process useless for understanding the world. How can we truly "know" anything if nothing is ever known with any certainty?
Science is a process, not a collection of facts.
^this
Science encompasses processes, theories, and facts.
^^^This
Tell us you do not know a thing about science without saying you know nothing about science.
Science, specifically, is intended to avoid "settled" things. The goal is always to disprove it. If they cannot disprove it, it is far more definitive.
Science, specifically, is intended to avoid "settled" things.
UP TO A POINT. I will give you a clue - the Laws of Thermodynamics really are "settled science".
No. They are not.
A scientist, if asked, will say 'insofar as we know now, these are the Laws of thermodynamics'
A sciencist, a worshipper of Science, will say that the Laws of Thermodynamics, praise be upon them, are Settled.
"Science, specifically, is intended to avoid "settled" things."
That statement shows that you do not understand science. There are things that ARE settled. The universe is about 13.7 billion years old. HIV causes AIDS. Cigarette smoking causes lung cancer. Vaccines do not cause autism. Viruses cause COVID measles and smallpox. Lead causes brain damage. I could go on for pages.
...yet they update the age of the Earth. Yet they update everything. Because nothing is "settled"
You do not actually like science. You like having your beliefs reinforced. I have faith in Jesus, which I firmly admit (and do not care) is not scientific. Your beliefs are even less tied to science.
It’s not so much as that they are overturned, after all of these years, but that they work well enough for our usage. For example, ancient peoples believed that the world was flat. Rather, it’s flattish. At the distances that they were dealing in, they couldn’t detect that it wasn’t flat, and their results were just fine assuming that the earth was flat.
So, with many of these other scientific laws - for practical purposes, we can treat them as accurate, but that’s only because we utilize them in such a limited space. We are taught that parallel lines don’t meet - but Einstein suggested that gravity may cause light to bend. Which was validated with two copies of the same remotely seen galaxy being seen here, due to the light from it having been warped by another galaxy.
“to the best of our knowledge”
You realize this literally means that nothing is 100% settled, right? Because our knowledge is ever evolving.
“then that makes the entire scientific process useless for understanding the world.”
Not at all. Could there be an even better way? Maybe. Until someone discovers it, the scientific process is the best way we’ve come up with to attempt to understand everything in AND out of the world. Is it going to explain everything down to the smallest detail? Probably not. And that’s okay! Science not being “settled” leaves the door open for someone to find a better way to explain, well just about any of these Laws and Theory’s we take for granted.
Saying something is settled and cannot be questioned is religious dogma, not the pursuit of knowledge.
Okay, go jump off a tall building to see if gravity is settled science.
Drink an organophosphate pesticide like methyl parathion to see if its toxicity is settled science.
Take an extension cord, plug it into a 240v outlet, and split the other ends so that one of the naked wires is in your right hand and the other in the left. This will allow you to see whether it is settled science that electricity can kill you.
Put a plastic bag over your head, tighten it around your neck, and test whether asphyxiation is settled science.
"If it's science, it's not settled." True by definition. Because science is a process, not a destination. Abandon science and you abandon progress. But then that's the whole idea, right?
A good cop who doesn't turn in bad cops is not a good cop.
Quibbling that 90-99% is not "all" does not help your cause. It makes you look like a quibbler, a lawyer, a politician.
"Many" have not pushed back enough for the public to notice, not even to help their colleagues who are brave enough to speak out. A crowd of cowards is nothing but a crowd of ostriches unworthy of my taxes.
Paychecks come first. Considering there is no accountability for the funding, the incentive is to get funded through any means possible and that means touting the guidelines as established by Al Gore and modified by academia from there.
The fundamental problem is that academic culture is rotten at its core for all the reasons stated in the article. Trump's actions are his attempt to deal with that problem, as ham fisted as they may be. Trump's actions are due to lack of interest in fixing or even acknowledging the corruption by anyone else.
Trump may be the bull in the proverbial china shop, but he is on site.
I saw Eric Weinstein at Freedom Fest in June. He made this point several times in several different panels. His says the "Academy" is broken and it will take years to fix. One example he uses is no university biology departments had any pushback when trans activist said things like "he has a male brain in a female body". No biology departments were willing to challenge this statement.
One example he uses is no university biology departments had any pushback when trans activist said things like "he has a male brain in a female body". No biology departments were willing to challenge this statement.
But this is where Weinstein is letting his ideology get the better of him. Physiologically, the differences between the "male brain" and the "female brain" are that (a) the male brain is slightly bigger, and (b) the male brain and female brain are subjected to different types and amounts of hormones which affect their biological development. But some trans activist making a statement like "a male brain in a female body" is clearly not making a claim based on physiology, that person is making a claim based on gender identity. And whether a particular person chooses to identify as a man or a woman is not a question that can be answered by biology, that is a question for psychology and sociology.
Apparently, Weinstein wants biology departments to be getting involved in questions outside of their area of expertise for ideological reasons, not scientific ones. That does not show that "the academy is broken". It actually shows the opposite. Because guess what, it wasn't so long ago that we really did have "scholars" who would inject their ideology into their work and call it "science". Such as, phrenologists who tried to claim that women are inferior to men because their brains are slightly smaller. This is the type of "science" that we don't need, but apparently it is the type of science that Weinstein now wants.
Fucking hell, you're STILL peddling this crap?
Men cannot be women. Since you, specifically, believe in "settled science" --- what science is more settled than sexual genetics in biology?
Can you show me the gene which compels men to wear pants and ties in public, or the gene which compels women to wear dresses and skirts in public? No? Okay then.
One's genetics does not invalidate one's free will. A biological man or a biological woman are free to choose to live their lives however they wish regardless of the type of sex organs that they have.
What your team is pushing is not based in science, but is based in ideology - it is a type of "genetic determinism" which apparently dictates that one's sex organs determines everything about that person, including that person's life choices. Does having a penis require you to watch sports and drink cheap beer?
Putting on a dress is not going to turn you into a woman.
Biologically? No.
Sociologically? It depends.
No. It doesn't.
Even the most accurate surgical transition can only transform a man into a simulacrum of a woman. He will look like a woman, but will function as a man acting like a woman.
Blair White, much as I enjoy her podcasts, shows this any time she is put into an all female situation where her status as a transperson is not the focus or even mentioned.
She does not share the experiences of the women she is interacting with. She does not think like a girl. She thinks like a man thinks a girl thinks. There is a remove.
Can you tell me which gene compels men to wear pants and ties, and compels women to wear skirts and dresses?
I never wear ties. Ever. Wore one for my wedding and that is it.
YET, I am a man.
Weird.
Do you believe there is genetic compulsion to wear certain clothes? Seriously?
At your wedding, did your wife wear a tie? Why not? What is the gene which compelled you to wear a tie at your wedding yet did not compel your wife to wear a tie?
You, a scientist. truly think that what you wear determines if you are a man or a woman?
Congrats, stereotypical Victorians are more open-minded than you.
Wearing a dress is cultural signaling that one is a woman. Wearing a dress does not make one a woman. Same goes for ties and men.
Get off the postmodernist thinking. It is addling your brain.
No, it does not depend.
Unless you're a moron.
Unless you're at a nude beach or unless you're going to start grabbing the crotches of everyone you meet in public, yes it does depend. That person you see wearing the sexy red dress and the fuck-me stilettos? You only register this person as a woman based on her outward appearance and not because you have x-ray vision to see her vagina. She might have a bigger dick than you (which admittedly is not hard to do) but you wouldn't know any better. YOU are the one with 'radical gender ideology' which pretends that outward appearance is equivalent to biological genetics, and fundamentally denies free will by people to choose to live however they wish. Fuck you and your fascist conformity.
Sorry if man and woman is too subtle a difference for you to grasp. I am a bit baffled that you are so willing to make such a pronouncement proudly.
You are a moron. We all know that. One day, you might be able to figure out who is a man and a woman, something easily done by 99.99999999% of our species for millions of years.
“Can you show me the gene which compels men to wear pants and ties in public, or the gene which compels women to wear dresses and skirts in public?”
You can’t help yourself, can you?
that person is making a claim based on gender identity.
In reality that person is yes, but they are lying to the public that the argument is biology and this is exactly what should have been contradicted.
Meanwhile Jeffey continues his perfect record of defending leftist extremism by misrepresenting these assertions as something outside a biologists area of expertise. Revealingly Jeffey has literally never criticized a left wing activist for speaking outside their area of expertise.
I criticize the stupid far left all the time. But they don't post here. The stupidity here is from MAGA.
You ARE the stupid left.
The only extremists here are the people who pretend biology is the same as social conventions, and who deny free will by people to live as they choose.
The extremists are the ones who claim that you're a man because you wear a tie. Because they confuse sophistry for scholarship.
No biology departments were willing to challenge this statement.
At virtually any level. Personally, I saw a few niche neurologists push back with, more-or-less accurate "This doesn't make sense. It's is like saying a car engine in a truck body turns a truck into a car." but, as I continue to point out, the whole development of sexual dimorphism wasn't The Catholic Church stamping "2 Genders: Man, Woman" into stone in 1997. For 10,000+ yrs. humans have been identifying and parsing egg-bearing female structures from sperm-bearing male structures from various parthenogenic and other far more complicated reproductive pathways. The idea that something autigender has anything to do strictly with genetics and sexual reproduction is, almost 200 yrs. later, self-evidently more stupid than Lamarckism.
Latin, modern German, and Russian have three genders. Deal with it.
As a neuter/neutral. Should we start calling you Das Charlie Nullo?
Nobody has a beef with gender in linguistics. It is, literally, the only place it fits.
Latin, modern German, and Russian have three genders.
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Academia has had 50+ years to fix itself. They don't get a say in how outsiders fix them.
"...Trump's actions are his attempt to deal with that problem, as ham fisted as they may be. Trump's actions are due to lack of interest in fixing or even acknowledging the corruption by anyone else."
THIS is what is called "clarity." Thank you, Mickey Rat!
And, BTW, this reasoning would apply to a great deal of Trump's answers to other problems.
Good.
Decimating means 10%. That's barely a start at getting rid of the rot.
Are those other opportunities perchance doing something productive in industry, or protesting alongside "Queers for Palestine"?
Half the faculty at these "elite" schools and 90% of the staff could disappear overnight and we'd all be better off. The sooner these "elite" schools stop spending my taxes, the better off we'll all be.
It can be a perfectly consistent and logical position to eliminate all government funding of scientific research. But just understand exactly the consequences of what you are advocating for.
Prior to the Second World War, Europe was the center of scientific innovation. Everywhere else, including America, was viewed as relative backwaters.
After the Second World War, America became the center of scientific innovation, and Europe played second fiddle.
If the government chooses to end funding for science in this country, the center of scientific innovation will likely change again. This time, probably to China. Chinese students already represent a very large proportion - if not a majority, then a plurality - of graduate students in the sciences now. If there is no reason for them to come here to study science, they will stay at home and study science instead and develop Chinese capacity for scientific innovation.
So if that happens, one of two things might occur. Either, the rest of the world will become dependent on Chinese scientific and technological innovations, in the way that the rest of the world is now dependent on American innovations now (e.g. cell phones, computer chips), and we will be buying tech that is not only made in China, but developed there too. Or, Chinese companies will develop the tech, but rich American companies will be the ones who will market it around the world. Either way, the US and the rest of the world will become even more dependent on China than it is now.
TANSTAAFL, so understand the tradeoffs that your position of "no funding for science" really means. Is this a tradeoff that you really want?
What science do we get, when 90%/100% of psychiatric and psychology research is bunk, and 3/4 of medical research is bunk? What science has come out of the Large Hadron Collider that justifies building a bigger one for $1 trillion which won't be ready for at least 25 years? What good comes out of research papers with one thousand co-authors?
String theory hasn't cleaned its own house, other theoretical physicists like this author haven't told them to clean house. Why should they get any more chances?
These are all broad-brush claims that are highly misleading or outright false. Really, 100% of psychology research is bunk??? You are proving my point - that your side's arguments are motivated more by emotion and impulse rather than by facts and logic and reason.
What science has come out of the Large Hadron Collider that justifies building a bigger one for $1 trillion which won't be ready for at least 25 years?
Relax, the next large collider won't cost anything close to $1 trillion. It is estimated to cost about $17 billion, and it's going to be in Europe anyway.
https://www.livescience.com/physics-mathematics/cern-proposes-dollar17-billion-particle-smasher-that-would-be-3-times-bigger-than-the-large-hadron-collider
What good comes out of research papers with one thousand co-authors?
Why is the number of co-authors an issue?
"Bunk" is shorthand for "not replicable in recent surveys" but you'd rather quibble.
If the number of co-authors were not an issue, you would have answered the question -- what good came out of that research paper? But no, you even missed the obvious rejoinder of "show me the paper and I'll answer the question" BECAUSE you know the number of co-authors is embarrassing proof of how useless that paper was and how those one thousand co-authors would be more productive elsewhere doing literally anything, even playing dog catcher in 1000 rural towns.
Why would having lots of co-authors on a paper make it "useless"? I am genuinely confused by this. If 1,000 people made meaningful contributions to a large-scale research project which produced some meaningful result, why shouldn't they all get some share of credit for generating that result?
You do not generate useful scholarship when you have hundreds of people writing it. Mich like great books are not written by a committee.
You love sophistry. You think it makes you appear intelligent. It does not.
He likely loves pastries too. That also does not make him appear intelligent, just fatter.
And you are sure no libertarian of any sort when your first reaction is "OMG No government funding! Science will die!"
I didn't say "science will die". I said that if government funding is cut off for scientific research, that the center of scientific innovation will likely move elsewhere, probably to China. If you want to argue against that claim, then feel free to do so.
So, any semblance of liberty/freedom is not useful in research? Got it. Total massive oversight of every single thing they do sounds like an amazing thing.
Do you even understand how modern science actually works? Not what your right-wing demagogues tell you, but the actual process itself?
Do you know how China works?
Not your utopian beliefs, but the reality?
He knows how the Chinese restaurant near him works - he calls in an order and they deliver it. You might say that he’s lazy and could at least get it carry-out, but that’s where you’re wrong because they don’t have double doors.
So we need to use tax dollars or China will beat us?
Where have I heard a similar argument before…
So says the typical collectivist.
If you want China to become the next global hub of scientific innovation, then just say so. Because that is what is likely to happen as a result of your team's policies. Typically, you all want to have it both ways - enact your policy preferences, and then complain about the predictable results.
Not my team. I'm an individualist.
https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-heads-to-alaska-to-negotiate-historic-truce-between-humans-bears
Reports are that the bears will be arriving at the meeting in trunks.
Don’t poke the bear.
If you want China to become the next global hub of scientific innovation, then just say so.
If China could become a global hub of science, they already would have.
They haven't because they can't.
Because science does not flourish in a state controlled by dogma. And ALL leftist states are controlled by --not just dogma, but insane dogma.
China's best and brightest are in the US, doing the very science that Trump wants to cut. And he wants to send them back to China so they can beat the pants off of us.
A certain editor wants to beat the pants off a Chinese med student.
Already a huge fraction of US scientists are immigrants because most Americans are too entitled and lazy to work hard. But we want the government to guarantee us success. When we see hard working immigrants out succeeding us, we resent them rather than take the hint.
The immigrants will go elsewhere and the US will become a third world country if MAGA continues to get its way. Already US researchers are getting poached by other countries.
In the middle ages, China was the leading country on the planet. Then in the 1420s it adopted "China First" and turned inward. It is only recovering now.
The US has a problem with universities producing idiots and those idiots, believing themselves to be erudite, producing bigger idiots Universities have been a drain on the US since the 1970's. End the welfare for them.
Harvard "has discriminated against Asian applicants, rigorously policed speech, and punished faculty whose research results didn't match preconceived notions about racism or who stated that there are only two sexes, while allowing antisemitic conduct. In addition, the university promoted staff based on identity rather than academic accomplishments, including those known to have plagiarized academic work, while discriminating against talented students and scholars on the grounds of their race or sex"
But the real problem is the Trump Administration cutting funding for all that
Harvard also had one of the leading COVID disinformationists on its faculty but you are probably okay with that.
Did they advocate for vaxxing with an experimental drug and masking using face diapers?
OMG! Government ran indoctrination-camps might come to an end!
OMG! The HORROR!!! We're all going to DIE! /s
Seriously Reason? Libertarian? WTF?
I had doubts this magazine would go full leftarded but this article is already there.
Only BIG-GOV 'Guns' against you can save you!
...cause ONLY BIG-Government can make 'science'! /s
Here's a Clue: 'Guns' don't make 'science' either.
This is a much needed article highlighting the need to keep science and activism separate. As a scientist myself I have lost much faith in scientific institutions in the last several years as political activism has been injected into almost every aspect of the process. It's been sad to see how most of my fellow scientists will get behind completely bogus ideas just because they are trendy. There must be a strong push back against what is happening in universities, but care must also be taken to replace it with a culture of open inquiry and not just another flavor of activism.
"The Science" (activism) destroyed the 'science' exactly (spot-on) the same time the people started thinking 'Guns' (Gov-Gun) would provide it for them.
'Guns' don't make science and 'Guns' are the only tool that separates government from any other run-of the mill business/organization. Activism ([Our] [WE] gang RULES!) is precisely a consequence of the 'armed-theft' legal 'Guns' will provide ideology. Trade becomes a median of who gets the 'Guns' against those 'icky' people instead of who *EARNS*/provides the most value.
I am also a scientist and my only activism is against bad science and for good science.
Also, the comments here really seem to demonstrate that broad education in the sciences is really lacking. Most of you seem to think that all of "science" consists of research on masks, and research on gender identity. What about the rest of it? As my nick suggests, I am a chemist. What about all of the research in the chemical sciences? Do you think that has been a net positive, or a net negative? Do you even care? Instead you just take it all for granted and are willing to throw it away because you are still angry about mask mandates fully 4 years after the pandemic. This is petulant and unserious. You are a bunch of easily led fools who have let demagogues and charlatans destroy your critical thinking capacity.
FOR 150-Years the USA expanded its useful "science" knowledge more than any other nation in the world. Then dumb*sses who wanted to use 'Guns' to make "science" killed all the motivation for further progress. That is how you ended up with the retarded stuff.
If you can't figure out that 'Guns' don't make science or that the only thing that separates government from any other entity is it's 'Guns' then you are dumber in 'science' than most 1st graders.
A chemist, eh? I guess that's what qualifies you to opine that it's harmless to jack off on the woman your buddy is raping.
Or is your chemical knowledge limited to butane and its uses?
Classy as always. Continue to demonstrate that you want to cut off funding for science because of feelz. It's definitely a winning argument!
Or maybe it's because $1 EARNED - $2 STOLEN =/= 3.
Seems your math is below 1st grader level as well.
Do you think 'armed-theft' is going to teach everyone math too?
As I note above, if you are going to invoke "taxation is theft" as an argument, then I expect you to apply it consistently.
The only way that "taxation is theft" can be applied dogmatically is with anarchism. Are you an anarchist? Okay, then. But if not, and I suspect you are not, then that means that you must believe that SOME taxation is justified to fund SOME government services, albeit on a very limited basis. And that is what most of the rest of humanity generally believes. So the real question then isn't about the theft per se, but whether the theft is justifiable. Why do you think the theft to fund scientific research is not justifiable?
This is actually a very very simple answer.
'Guns' don't make science.
'Guns' do defend Liberty and ensure Justice for all.
UR very confused about what the actual purpose of a 'Gun' monopoly is.
Once you clear-up that confusion; the rest of your confusion will clear up.
I want to cut off stealing my taxes for non-replicable "research" that math is racist.
You want to steal my taxes.
Fuck off, slaver.
Taxes aren't theft.
Taxes are theft, asswipe.
They are. The science is settled.
Required payments backed up by an explicit threat of force.
How are they not theft?
You do not support them or else you'd pay more than you owe.
As I have always said, your tax bill is the MINIMUM you can pay. IRS will always take more if you send it.
I always think of them as more a protection racket or extortion.
Like when you pay the local mafia boss so his thugs won’t burn down your store, but they’ll also mete out retribution if a rival boss has your store burned down.
I see, so you want government funding of science, but only science that produces results that don't hurt your feelings.
Bravo chemjeff. Hope you succeed in educating one or two of them.
STEM studies should move away from being required to take humanities that prop those progressive professor invaders up and have completely separate institutions.
While the author is correct that the takeover of academia by the socialists is bad for science, it is not exactly a hostile takeover; Trump's current assault on academia is also wrong, but not for the reason implied by the author here. The government should stop all funding of education and scientific research immediately without any attempts to correct biases in any aspect of academic life. Trying to pretend that government funding of scientific research must be protected at all costs for the good of the people is worse than wrong - it undermines efforts to stop outside interference with academics.
Nonsense. The "science" crippled itself with its commitment to the unscientific, not because they will no longer be able to feed at the trough.
Or maybe feeding at the trough is exactly why its unscientific.
There is no metric of VALUE there anymore. BS is funded by 'armed-theft'.
^BINGO... "funding research" ... "it undermines efforts to stop outside interference with academics"
So well said it deserves a repeat. +1000000.
"...Trump's current assault on academia is also wrong..."
Do TDS-addled slimy piles of shit lie because of their TDS, or were they liars prior to that and TDS just gave them focus?
Or are they simply imbecilic asswipes?
"The government should stop all funding of education"
Ah, create a generation of illiterate unemployable young people. They will revolt, come to your house, steal everything you own, and probably kill you. In order to avoid starvation.
you literally just did the Bastiat quote. Please tell me you realized this and did it on purpose.
The Gov 'Gun' Commie-Indoctrination Camp is already creating a generation of illiterate unemployable young people, who revolt, come to your house, steal everything you own, and probably will some day kill you (called genocide).
In fact they've even banded together under the 'Democrat/ic' political party of [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism] and lobby to STEAL all you stuff for their own benefit because they're entirely incompetent at taking responsibility for themselves.
How do you not see you are just PROJECTING everything that Commie-Education is / has-done. 'Guns' don't teach kids. There is ZERO excuse to have those Gov - 'Guns' there.
"Universities’ internal culture wars threaten free speech and inquiry, but political attacks on research funding and infrastructure are crippling U.S. scientific leadership."
1. Want an example of oppression?
Go to almost and college or university and tell your liberal farts professors you're a conservative.
Then listen to them insult you, lower your grades and refuse to endorse you for any professional or graduate school.
2. There is no correlation between billions sent for "research" in colleges and universities and major scientific discoveries and/or cures.
One can only speculate how many billions of tax dollars have been wasted on bullshit "research" since the 1950's.
#libertarians4governmentlargesse
I agree with the author and think much of the media message on universities is biased. This is natural because the media's audience likes excitement. Remember if it bleeds it leads. My own alma mater the University of Wisconsin Madison campus has an enrollment of 50K. The number of students protesting the conflict Gaza was a few hundred.
Activists inside universities have hijacked many administrative functions, and significant reform is needed to ensure free speech, open inquiry, and the integrity of scholarship.
He's off to a bad start trying to minimize the problem in the very first paragraph. Activists did not just hijack the administration, but also control much of the so-called research. The reality is that much of what we fund isn't "research" or "science", but rather propaganda intended to advance far left political priorities.
As an example consider Elizabeth Warren. When she was producing scholarship few knew her name although she was making ~400k/yr so she wasn't exactly suffering through. But that wasn't enough for her. So she created a propaganda study to help Democrats pass legislation giving the government complete control over medical insurance. This study wrongly asserted that half of all personal bankruptcies in America are due to unpaid medical bills, a conclusion she controlled by using idiotic standards purporting to measure this. This was important to the left because it gave them the power to require all insurance cover mental health and rehab treatments (and later trans conversions), areas of medicine largely provided by left wing political allies. In her study a personal bankruptcy by someone whose business failed or lost a job and ran up 200k in consumer debt but had little Johnny's 3k braces on a payment plan is included as a "medical bankruptcy". For the record the real number of personal bankruptcies caused by medical bills is less than 2% which was validated when personal bankruptcy rates remained unchanged after Obamacare passed.
For corrupting her employer's integrity Warren was rewarded first with a raise and then with election as a Senator and extreme wealth and power.
So let's not pretend this is just about admins requiring grant applications to state how important their research is for underrepresented minorities.
"...This study wrongly asserted that half of all personal bankruptcies in America are due to unpaid medical bills, a conclusion she controlled by using idiotic standards purporting to measure this..."
Furthermore, what possible better use of bankruptcy protection than your health/life? Should you use it because you're too stupid to pay your credit card bill? What possible better use can there be?
Fuck Warren with Bernie's dick.
In this regard, we need to continue to recruit the best and brightest minds from around the world, both as students and researchers.
It's not clear how we can "continue" something that is not actually happening. In reality picking students and researchers based on identity politics rather than excellence will always deliver worse results. So we're to "continue" accepting subpar results while pretending we're doing everything right? No thanks.
If there are people in the academy who want to save the good they have to begin by jettisoning the bad. If all you're willing to do is whitewash the problem with a few generic reforms like not requiring DEI statements you're part of the problem. Come back when you're ready to kick out the political activist "researchers" and identify the grants that should be eliminated.
'how we can "continue" something that is not actually happening.'
It IS happening.
"reality picking students and researchers based on identity politics rather than excellence "
That is happening for students because universities give preference to mediocre young people, mostly White, whose parents attended the same institution and/or contributed a lot of money. But MAGA has no problem with this.
I have never seen a researcher get hired because of their identity. Or get a grant for the same reason. MAGA is upset because mediocre White folks can't get jobs.
In the '70s, there was a magazine supporting libertarian thought, published in Santa Barbara. Really enjoyed it; gave voice and coherence to my thinking.
Sometime in the '80s, I tossed in some money for an office in LA, and boy, was that a mistake. Now we have a "libertarian" web site supporting taxpayer funding of random, un-vetted university "research".
Fuck you, Krauss, with a barb-wire-wrapped broomstick.
Taxpayer funded research gets vetted at at least three levels. I have very often been one of the first level reviewers.
Charlie, no one buys your bullshit.
It's cute that you believe this to be true.
That a staggeringly large percentage of scholarship cannot be replicated shows how pathetically useless "peer review" is.
Trump made it clear the US gov will not fund transgender sex change operations on mice or giving cocaine to monkeys to see if their sex life changes.
Private donors can pay for these ridiculous and wasteful studies.
It is obvious the studies being paid for have gone beyond absurd, do not have to produce any results and are feeding a corrupt scientific community that removes truth to make a paycheck.
How about this, get the national debt down to 10% of gdp, annual deficits down to zero and my overall tax burden down 10% of my income. Then feel free to ask for a few bucks to study the mating habits of dung beetles. Borrowing from future generations while impoverishing the existing ones is madness that only a phd doing research can justify. Also while I'm demanding I'd also like world peace and such ans such.
"my overall tax burden down 10% of my income."
That would require eliminating Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, and every Defense procurement program. No more planes, tanks, or aircraft carriers. And your healthcare attitude towards the elderly and the poor is that they should die.
" . . . and significant reform is needed to ensure free speech, open
inquiry, and the integrity of scholarship."
Just stop giving tax dollars for any reason whatsoever to any school.
In other words, only the children of rich folks get educated.
It's cute that you think college grads are educated.
Few people are dumber than post-grads.
"But the Trump administration has used this fact to launch what may be a more dangerous direct attack on university scientific and research infrastructures across the nation."
OR
But the Trump administration has used this fact to launch what may be a fully justified direct attack on university scientific and research fraud across the nation.
There is a lot of bad research out there, much of it promoted by the Trump Administration. Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin are useless for COVID. Vaccines do not cause autism.
...yet research says otherwise. Weird.
I guess that is not "the science" for you.
Funding crap science (science that cannot be reproduced, for a start - or
'science' that claims things that are objectively wrong - like men can become women and vice-versa).
There are cheaper ways to support those unable to actually function in society. Diggers of ditches. Hewers of wood. Carriers of water....
And the people who aren't physically able to dig or carry get to die from starvation. Got it.
You are the leading indicator of why government programs need to be cut to the bone; slimy, worthless, lying shits like you support the opposite.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
They are called government employees. Yes, let them die.
from the horse's mouth
https://magazine.hms.harvard.edu/articles/brief-history-federal-funding-basic-science
absolute drivel and no specifics
the conclusion
“We have an enormous amount to show for those investments,” says Jones, the HMS historian. “If you had to choose between medicine in 1935 and today, the answer is obvious. That progress didn’t just happen, it was built on decades of public funding.”
The conclusion to these people is always more theft.
There is no free speech or inquiry in science - this funding the crap that is being done is a waste of time.
Cut the funding, fix the universities, start funding again.
The "libertarian" outlet supporting govt theft to fund horseshit science. Reason, you suck.
This isn't a war on science from the Trump admin. It's a war on gov't debt, and a much-needed one.
Right now, science is funded almost entirely by gov't debt, either in direct federal grants or special gov't treatment of the private companies that do some scientific research.
If we have to keep racking up debt in order to maintain our science advantage, it is going to collapse at some point, probably when we enter hyperinflation, and then whatever advantage we had will be useless as our enemies pounce on us in revenge.
On top of that, scientific papers are only about 50% reprroducible, so most of it amounts to gambling. The gov't would be better off taking $1 million meant for a research grant and betting it on red at the roulette table, because at least if they win, the prize is cold hard cash, whereas a "win" in science might not actually turn into real world improvements for the public. (In other words, even reproducible science might not ever make human lives better, especially if the science is for weapons or these pharmaceuticals with all sorts of negative side effects..)
For the 50% of science that is not reproducible, that amounts to a white-collar welfare program, giving people who pretend to do science fairly high incomes for no benefit to the public at all.
https://granitegrok.com/national/2025/08/friday-meme-thing-34
This is perhaps the stupidest thing this admin has done. The kind of research gov funds are things that private interests don't and won't fund. This goes beyond simple science for future tech, but all sorts of other things especially the medical funding.