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Reason Roundup

The 'Rigged' Jobs Data

Plus: AI reanimations of those who've died, Elizabeth Warren x Zohran Mamdani, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 8.5.2025 9:46 AM

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His side of the story: The president made headlines yesterday after announcing he would be firing the commissioner of labor statistics, who he alleges has been producing jobs reports that are "rigged" against his administration. This morning, he was asked about it: "The [Bureau of Labor Statistics] commissioner doesn't even really get involved with the actual minutia of putting [jobs reports] together.…These are statistical changes based on this antiquated system, and it's just a big leap to go to 'rigged.' And then it also, Mr. President, it makes anyone you pick…critics are gonna say, 'Hey, he's picking a guy or a gal who's giving him the numbers he wants,' so it undermines confidence in the system to some extent," CNBC's Joe Kernan posed to President Donald Trump on Squawk Box this morning.

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"When they say that nobody was involved, that it wasn't political, give me a break. Look, before the election, we had this massive, massive outflow of beauty for [Joe] Biden, I mean, we didn't know he was alive….I mean [they claimed] the economy was roaring, it was a beautiful thing. And I said there's no way this is happening; it's going the opposite direction. And two weeks later, they said I was right," responded Trump, referring to an unclear time period, who then just sort of kept meandering.

"Biden wasn't doing well; he was doing poorly. They announced these phenomenal numbers two days before the election, and a little bit before that, always these great numbers….But think of it, then they did the biggest revision I think in history of almost 900,000 jobs….So they gave phony numbers in order to win the election. After I won the election I said, 'Too big to rig!'"

Trump is probably referring to a reduction made in August 2024, so several months before the election, in which the BLS announced a preliminary estimate that the number of jobs created over the 12 months from March 2023 to March 2024 would be adjusted downward by 818,000—part of the annual "benchmarking" process. But the particulars really do matter, especially if his claim is that the timing of the BLS' reports was done in a manner that it hoped would affect the outcome of the election.

Trump is really incorrect on the particulars and has struggled to marshal evidence to support his claim that the BLS has been systematically trying to hurt him when releasing jobs reports. But two things are possibly correct: That such massive errors that require such revisions indicate real, persistent issues with methodology that need to be corrected, and that Biden was given an awful lot of free passes by media and onlookers in the government as he ran the economy into the ground, with revisions being covered a lot less than the initial headlines.


Trump in high heels: Just what we needed. Rep. Nancy Mace (R–S.C.) has decided to run for governor of South Carolina. Once a more moderate Republican, she's now gone full sycophant, saying she'll be a "super MAGA governor."

"It'll be Trump in high heels," she told reporters, announcing her ambitions.

"South Carolina gave Mr. Trump his first primary victory in 2016, helping propel him to the presidency. Gov. Henry McMaster, a Republican who was lieutenant governor at the time, was one of the first state politicians in the country to endorse Mr. Trump. And Mr. Trump has easily won the state, one of the fastest growing in the country, three times," reports The New York Times. But this election will be held toward the end of next year, and midterm elections don't tend to look so great for the party currently in the White House. By that point, Trump will be nearing the end of his term, but Mace appears to be all-in on Trumpism as an ideology. It'll be interesting to see which politicians carry the mantle and which components of Trumpism outlast the man himself.


Reanimating those who've died: The journalist Jim Acosta hosted an AI "reanimation" of Parkland victim Joaquin Oliver, who died in the 2018 school shooting, on his show. Oliver delivered a message calling for gun control and greater mental health resources:

A show you don't want to miss at 4p ET / 1p PT. I'll be having a one of a kind interview with Joaquin Oliver. He died in the Parkland school shooting in 2018. But his parents have created an AI version of their son to deliver a powerful message on gun violence. Plus Texas State… pic.twitter.com/mbdM2WxwUR

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) August 4, 2025

Oliver's parents created this AI version of him. People grieve in all different ways, but I believe it's unethical to use this reanimation to advance a specific political agenda—which both the parents and Acosta are doing. The use of artificial intelligence to reanimate the dead desecrates the memories of those who've passed by letting us hubristically assume we know how the dead would've grown and changed and reacted to specific circumstances.


Scenes from New York: Zohran Mamdani x Elizabeth Warren, the crossover event we were all dreading.


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  1. Fist of Etiquette   18 hours ago

    The president made headlines yesterday after announcing he would be firing the commissioner of labor statistics...

    Making him a labor statistic himself. HOW IRONIC.

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    1. Chumby   17 hours ago

      A recession is when your neighbor loses his job.
      A depression is when you lose your job.
      A recovery is when Biden apparatchiks lose their jobs.

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    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

      The most hilarious part of the faux outrage from becoming bad Liz and other democrats is the acting BLS statistician has like 25 years working at BLS. He isnt a Trump crony.

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      1. MollyGodiva   16 hours ago

        He also won't last long.

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   16 hours ago

          Retard doesn’t understand what “acting” means.

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        2. Mother's Lament   15 hours ago

          So sorry this is happening to you, Tony.

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        3. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   15 hours ago

          Poor Dr. Retard.

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        4. Chumby   15 hours ago

          You are as dumb as Tony.

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      2. Quicktown Brix   15 hours ago

        Yes, and the message has been received. Those that wish to remain employed will deliver reports that support the narrative of a strong economy.

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        1. Idaho-Bob   15 hours ago

          Just say "deliver accurate reports".

          Trump is very different from the DNC shit we've been fed.

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          1. Quicktown Brix   14 hours ago

            It is to laugh.

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        2. Incunabulum   14 hours ago

          Just like under Biden then?

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          1. Quicktown Brix   14 hours ago

            Biden had the press working for him. He didn't need to, nor did he, manipulate bureaucrat numbers as far as I know.

            Social media on the other hand...

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            1. DesigNate   13 hours ago

              He did though (well not him personally cause he was a bowl of pudding, but his handlers did). That’s why they “discovered” the numbers were off by nearly a million for 2024.

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              1. Quicktown Brix   12 hours ago

                The BLS under Biden made corrections. I don't dispute this. This is normal procedure as it always has.

                The BLS produces an initial estimate for the overall economy based on job gains or losses at the businesses that have submitted their data. The result is a closely watched jobs report that economists and policymakers rely on to gauge the strength of the labor market.

                There’s just one problem: many businesses haven’t finalized their payroll data in time for the initial release, meaning those early numbers often represent an incomplete snapshot.

                To account for this, the BLS issues two subsequent updates — known as revisions — as more businesses submit their data.

                https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/job-numbers-change-revisions/

                If you're saying BLS changed those numbers at the request of the Biden administration, then I'll ask what is the evidence for that.

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                1. Neutral not Neutered   11 hours ago

                  The person is being fired for doing a shitty job. There doesn't have to be more to the story. The failing to properly do their job has been documented for many years now.

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                2. DesigNate   11 hours ago

                  I can admit that it is mostly speculative based on the past several years (if I had hard proof I’d be on some talk show right now). I honestly don’t remember them issuing these types of revisions (20%+) during Trump 1 or even the first year or so of Biden, but I do remember sarc clowning on shrike under Obama for the same kinds of revisions.

                  I can also admit that the problem may lie more in the media than the actual bureaucrats at BLS.

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                  1. Quicktown Brix   10 hours ago

                    We can meet on that common ground.

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          2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   14 hours ago

            Mike really loves terrible government funded make work jobs with shit output products. He is trying to protect his career after all.

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            1. Quicktown Brix   13 hours ago

              My career is discovering/designing/improving drugs to treat cancer.

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              1. Neutral not Neutered   11 hours ago

                Awesome. I have to say my wife survived treatment recently and is now cancer free. Immunotherapy has proven very helpful.

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                1. Quicktown Brix   10 hours ago

                  I'm glad to hear it! Immunotherapy has been the greatest breakthrough in cancer treatments in our lifetimes. I'm very glad it worked for your wife.

                  One of our compounds is intended to sensitized people/cancer types that don't respond to immunotherapy.

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            2. Chumby   11 hours ago

              Possibly White Mike left his LA progtopia and moved to Idaho:

              https://www.quora.com/profile/Mike-Laursen

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              1. Idaho-Bob   11 hours ago

                Meridian, ID - Idaho progtopia next to Boise.

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        3. DesigNate   13 hours ago

          What’s the solution, in your mind?

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          1. Quicktown Brix   12 hours ago

            uhh well, I'm a problem man, not a solution man, but OK here goes...

            Pipe dream solution: Eliminate the BLS. Eliminate the Fed.

            Realistic solution: Spend a little time discovering why the reports were so far off. Polling has become notoriously difficult in the digital age where typical people don't answer calls.

            Easiest solution: Eliminate the preliminary reports and only report what is now the "final" number 3 months later.

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            1. DesigNate   11 hours ago

              I was more referring to the firing. If he’s demonstrably doing this bad a job, which I think the level of corrections exhibits, then he should be fired. But Trump firing him might look like he just wants “Yes Men” around him. So what is the solution to that quandry?

              But I like all three of your overall solutions.

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              1. Quicktown Brix   8 hours ago

                Gotcha.

                Well if Trump is upset at incompetence or has evidence of rigging that we haven't seen, firing is the correct solution. However, that incompetence should be revealed for all to see. Otherwise others, including bureaucrats that report to Trump may think that real numbers, if bad for the administration, should be hidden or falsified. These numbers should not be, nor appear to be politicized.

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                1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   3 hours ago

                  "Well if Trump is upset at incompetence or has evidence of rigging that we haven't seen, firing is the correct solution. However, that incompetence should be revealed for all to see."

                  This quote is why Jesse calls you Mike. The incompetence has all been revealed for all to see, and has been discussed here for years.

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   18 hours ago

    The [Bureau of Labor Statistics] commissioner doesn't even really get involved with the actual minutia of putting [jobs reports] together.…

    Well, there's his problem. SUPERVISE YOUR PEOPLE.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   17 hours ago

      You expect output from a person with a lucrative sinecure?

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    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

      So the same level of effort as Reason editors?

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    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   17 hours ago

      It does raise the question as to why the BLS commissioner isn't keeping tabs on them. These people are getting about $180K a year to do this job.

      They don't need to be running the spreadsheets themselves, but anywhere outside of government that oversaw those kinds of errors for that long would get fired, too.

      This is actually serious shit. Markets and financial decisions are influenced by these reports. If a report has to be corrected by orders of hundreds of thousands on a consistent basis, than either the BLS's data input models are shit and need to be replaced with something that can better track the numbers, or these people are acting like political apparatchiks to massage results for their preferred party. Which is DC, is the Democrats.

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      1. creech   16 hours ago

        Yep, I don't think any Board of Directors would put up with a CEO who had to revise the monthly p(l) report over and over again and whose excuse is "but the accountants put the numbers together, not me."

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      2. Neutral not Neutered   16 hours ago

        Complacency due to no accountability or oversight. The vast majority of the US institution jobs are easy street and the swamp sadly sits and stares while refusing to push the Presidents agenda forward saying I didn't vote for him.

        Trump did recognize this in his first term and created a plan that dissolves the swamp's power which includes firing most of it. What other course of action is there? People refuse to do their jobs, or suck at it very badly, union or not, you're fired.

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        1. MollyGodiva   16 hours ago

          Trump has a long history that shows the only qualification he looks for is loyalty.

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          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   16 hours ago

            Not even attempting to address the topic.

            Do you imagine this woks on anyone besides sarc?

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            1. Mother's Lament   15 hours ago

              All the fifty centers do this. If you can't address the issue make a claim that's hard to verify or disprove in order to distract. It's in their guide.
              Jeff is a master of doing it.

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              1. Chumby   15 hours ago

                Sloppy chemist does enjoy his chaff and redirect.

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                1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   14 hours ago

                  But even more so he enjoys lying.

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                  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   14 hours ago

                    Not as mich as ice cream covered children.

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                    1. Mother's Lament   11 hours ago

                      An Akita would kick his ass.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   15 hours ago

            Cite?

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      3. Gaear Grimsrud   16 hours ago

        Yeah it is a big deal. It influences markets, interest rates, consumer confidence and a whole lot more. Shareholders would not tolerate Microsoft or Ford drastically revising their quarterlies. But if it's the federal government it's just a collective shoulder shrug. If they can't actually do what they're mandated to do either find someone who can or just shut it down.

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      4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   16 hours ago

        Probably both.

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   15 hours ago

          What makes it even more sus is that the ex-commissioner waited until AFTER the Fed concluded its annual meeting to release the report. This is something that, at the very least, would have been a point of discussion during the meeting, even if Powell would have ultimately kept the status quo. But it's also likely that it would have influenced at least a slight change in interest rates if the numbers are really that bad.

          And considering the labor figures happen to be correlating with foreign labor numbers going through the floor while citizen figures have increased, it's even more likely that the "drop" is simply due to the elites' peon labor leaving the country.

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          1. DesigNate   11 hours ago

            Yeah, I seem to remember the bumps that Biden did get were mostly in the “migrant worker” and “government employee” boxes.

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      5. Sometimes a Great Notion   15 hours ago

        Are they really influencing markets anymore? With the speed of the internet, I can't imagine anyone waiting for government half ass stats to make a business decision, well other the Federal Reserve.

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    4. MollyGodiva   16 hours ago

      He does. That is how they came out with an accurate report. Trump not liking it means nothing.

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      1. DesigNate   16 hours ago

        He doesn’t.

        18-24 months of data revised downward proves that.

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        1. MollyGodiva   15 hours ago

          It was only the last few months you fucking worthless sack of shit.

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          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   15 hours ago

            The person fired has had these types of corrections since appointed in 2023 dumb fuck.

            These last 2 were 3 to 5 standard deviations away from normal corrections dumb fuck.

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          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   15 hours ago

            Show us on the doll where the bad orange man hurt you.

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          3. Mother's Lament   15 hours ago

            That's an outright fucking lie, Tony.

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          4. Red Rocks White Privilege   15 hours ago

            No, this shit's been going on for years and was particularly notable during Pudding Brain Biden's tenure, you fucking waste of carbon molecules.

            If you had any self-respect left, you'd take a trip to Canada and let them harvest your organs.

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          5. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

            Bullshit. I have posts going back over the last 18 months or so showing the monthly downward revisions. Large revisions.

            Medulla Oblongata 1 year ago
            Ticket Change?
            Oh, no, labor estimates revised downward again? I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED!

            -----------------------

            The Labor Department confirmed on Friday that the rate actually rose to 4.1 percent in June.

            On top of that, while the Biden administration previously bragged that 272,000 jobs were created in May, these numbers were revised by the Labor Department today.

            From The Hill:
            The Labor Department on Friday revised May’s job gain down to 218,000 and April’s job gain down to 108,000, meaning the economy added 111,000 fewer jobs than first reported.

            Medulla Oblongata 1 year ago
            Going Down?
            Then don't release the numbers prematurely, crow about your successes, then pretend that the revision downward 2 months later never happened. Just wait the 2 extra months you indicate are needed to get the numbers right.

            Graphic on Fox Business just now [edit: 3 months ago, reusing post] showed BLS Jobs Numbers, comparing initial releases (to much fanfare often) to revised number released later (without notice):

            Jan-23 -45,000
            Feb-23 -63,000
            Mar-23 -19,000
            Apr-23 -36,000
            May-23 -58,000
            Jun-23 -104,000
            Jul-20 +49,000
            Aug-23 -22,000
            Sep-23 -74,000
            Oct-23 -45,000
            Nov-23 -17,000
            Dec-23 +74,000
            Jan-24 -124,000

            Since the initial numbers are usually around 200k, these errors are often 20% or so, and in 11 of 13 months, the error is always negative.

            And what happened last month…

            “The U.S. economy added 175,000 jobs in April according to the latest employment situation report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics released Friday morning, the smallest job gain in some six months and significantly below Wall Street estimates for the month.

            Medulla Oblongata 7 months ago
            Hell Out West
            CNN:

            Nov 1, 2024 On Friday, September's surprisingly strong gains of 254,000 jobs were revised lower to 223,000; and August's weaker-than-expected job growth plunged by 81,000 to land at a mild 78,000-job gain.

            Forbes:

            U.S. Added 818,000 Fewer Jobs Than Previously Thought From March 2023 To March 2024, Government Says

            Massive revisions have been fairly normal in recent years, as the government said last August it overestimated the job growth for the 12-month period ending March 2023 by 306,000 and in August 2019 it underestimated job growth for the period ending March 2022 by 462,000. The most recent downward revision comes as late spring and early summer nonfarm payroll expansion slowed, as the U.S. added an average of 154,000 jobs monthly from April to July, and unemployment spiked to 4.3%, its highest rate since October 2021.

            Medulla Oblongata 6 months ago
            Showmanship All Around
            https://x.com/RealEJAntoni/status/1887883661061566878

            E.J. Antoni, Ph.D.
            @RealEJAntoni

            All months in '24 were revised down in today's jobs report, w/ the average revision being -626k; what's even crazier is the business employment dynamics data from BLS and early benchmark from PHL Fed point to even worse downward revisions in the next annual benchmark:

            Medulla Oblongata 6 months ago
            Showmanship All Around
            Will need to see if they are revised downward by 30% or so like they typically were in Biden admin.

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            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   14 hours ago

              Molly’s not going to read any of this.

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              1. Chumby   7 hours ago

                Accounts like Molly are the McGuffin. Possibly run by Reason staff to troll, needle, poke, or to generate conversation amongst the commenters.

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          6. Chumby   15 hours ago

            PWNED

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            1. Diarrheality   7 hours ago

              HA!

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          7. DesigNate   13 hours ago

            Ohhh, kitten got worked up with that one.

            Go with love and peace, doc.

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      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   16 hours ago

        You just say the dumbest shit. Do you not realize that nobody’s buying your bullshit?

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      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   15 hours ago

        Never go full doctor retard.

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      4. damikesc   15 hours ago

        They've had two massive restatements this year alone.

        They ain't doing their job.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   15 hours ago

          One of them was even the 2nd correction of the month where the prior correction of that month was near zero.

          It is just incompetence all around.

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    5. But SkyNet is a Private Company   13 hours ago

      “But we’ve always done it this way! When the whale boats prepare to leave port, we ask all the captains how many they had pressganged.
      We also count all the rice bowls in the railroad camp and assume one bowl per chinaman.”

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  3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   17 hours ago

    The previous guy was wrong 100% of the time so he was eighter a lier, a retard or both.
    And no mater what Trump does the left is going to respond as the unhinged lunatics they are, so why give a shit what they are going to do?

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    1. Neutral not Neutered   16 hours ago

      ^^^Yup^^^

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  4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   17 hours ago

    Rep. Nancy Mace (R–S.C.)

    Would.

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    1. Idaho-Bob   17 hours ago

      Yes, but...

      Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL)

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      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   17 hours ago

        Preferable, yes.

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      2. Gaear Grimsrud   16 hours ago

        Why are all the hot babes Republicans?

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        1. Randy Sax   16 hours ago

          I was partial to Tulsi even before she flipped.

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      3. Jefferson Paul   14 hours ago

        There is a rumor/conspiracy theory going around that Anna Paulina Luna worked as a stripper in her youth. I saw it on X a month ago. I doubt it's true. There are some reports that the police were called to the strip club where she worked, and her name is in the police report. Some are saying it's all BS, some are saying she was just a bartender, some say she was a stripper. I don't know.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   13 hours ago

          What’s one of the worst ways to defame a woman? You call her a whore, prostitute, stripper, etc. That’s what seems to be going on here.

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        2. Neutral not Neutered   11 hours ago

          Some great Nurses and even some Doctors paid their way through school stripping. Who cares?

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    2. Randy Sax   17 hours ago

      Ya, why not. Those older women are hard to get off though.

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   17 hours ago

        Individual results may vary.

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        1. Randy Sax   17 hours ago

          How good is your hand-tongue co-ordination?

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          1. Ajsloss   17 hours ago

            Impeccable.

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          2. Chumby   16 hours ago

            If you told her that her pussy tasted like shit and she objected to the comment, you could respond with “Sorry, a slip of the tongue.”

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            1. Jefferson Paul   14 hours ago

              A Guy Walks Into A Bar (Ep. 27) - Magic Apples

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ub3Cm0V_Z8w

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      2. Gaear Grimsrud   16 hours ago

        Never found that to be a problem.

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  5. Fist of Etiquette   17 hours ago

    ...critics are gonna say, 'Hey, he's picking a guy or a gal who's giving him the numbers he wants,' so it undermines confidence in the system to some extent...

    Pretty sure we're way past that at this point. We're in a post-report era, where no product from any expert is to be blindly trusted.

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    1. MollyGodiva   16 hours ago

      Only the MAGAs reject anything that comes from an expert.

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      1. Randy Sax   16 hours ago

        Only libtards chop their kids dicks off because the "experts" said to do it.

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      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   16 hours ago

        Are you a biologist?

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      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   15 hours ago

        Their work performance shows they aren't experts doc retard.

        You would have been a lysenko acolyte lol.

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      4. damikesc   15 hours ago

        Tell us how the COVID vaccine prevented spreading of the disease.

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      5. Chumby   15 hours ago

        What is a woman?

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      6. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   15 hours ago

        If only you weren’t totally retarded, Molly, you’d understand a Fist joke.

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      7. Mother's Lament   15 hours ago

        Tony's experts:

        "What is a woman? Sex is a social construct according to the experts."
        "We need your taxes to fix the weather according to the experts."
        "Free speech on the internet is dangerous according to the experts."
        "Hi, I'm a misinformation expert."
        "Not taking the injection is dangerous to those who have obeyed, according to experts."

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  6. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   17 hours ago

    The journalist Jim Acosta

    False.

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    1. Chumby   17 hours ago

      Robby might

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

        Lulz.

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      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   16 hours ago

        Might be a journalist? I suppose.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   16 hours ago

          Believe he is flowing from your "would" in regards to Nancy above. That's how I read it.

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          1. Chumby   16 hours ago

            Bingo

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            1. Dillinger   16 hours ago

              N69?

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          2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

            Yeah I got it.

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            1. Chumby   15 hours ago

              It goes both ways, apparently like the maybe journalist.

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              1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   14 hours ago

                No matter the topic, Robby could go both ways.

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                1. Chumby   14 hours ago

                  He is a conservative. Probably donated to Act Blue to solidify that.

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    2. Fats of Fury   15 hours ago

      Acosta needs to animate his dead career.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   15 hours ago

        ‘E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisible!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!

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  7. Chumby   17 hours ago

    Brit Out

    Russian sources report the capture in Ochakov of British servicemen who were coordinating the use of British missiles and drones. Among the prisoners were Colonel Edward Blake, an officer of the special psychological operations unit; Lieutenant Colonel Richard Carroll, a representative of the UK Ministry of Defence who actively participated in operations in the Middle East, and an unidentified staff member, presumably an MI6 intelligence officer, present as a cybersecurity advisor.

    - Russian BaZa

    While these western glohomo puppets are in custody, they can rest assured that their wives and daughters back home are being well-protected by the neighborhood watch rapefugee gangs. If their sons make a cheeky post about any of this online, they will receive special housing privileges.

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    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   17 hours ago

      It's funny, I reread Kipling the Whitman burden, and it's exactly spot on

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      1. Use the Schwartz   16 hours ago

        I read a sampler.

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    2. MollyGodiva   16 hours ago

      MAGAs are much bigger rapists and kiddy diddlers than illegal immigrants.

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      1. DesigNate   16 hours ago

        Swing and a miss, doc, that post was about Britain.

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

          It’s just spouting irrelevant nonsense now. Needs new programming.

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      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   15 hours ago

        Florida just arrested 40 pedophiles. 20% of them were here illegally. What's their population percentage doc retard?

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        1. Idaho-Bob   14 hours ago

          Do you think it understands per capita?

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      3. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   15 hours ago

        Gee, you sound just like Pluggo and Limpdick saying that. Are you a Shrike sock?

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      4. Mother's Lament   15 hours ago

        Imagine if you found something that would back up your insane accusations, Tony. You'd be so shocked you'd probably faint.

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      5. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

        Lotta MAGA folks in England?

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      6. Marshal   15 hours ago

        Proving yet again that left wingers' comments have no relationship to reality whatsoever. Every comment is the answer to "what would help my argument ?" and whether it is true is simply not a consideration.

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  8. Fist of Etiquette   17 hours ago

    "It'll be Trump in high heels," she told reporters, announcing her ambitions.

    Man, she is just inviting the political cartoonists at this point.

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    1. Marshal   15 hours ago

      She should have gone with "Trump with tits". That would have gotten more attention and invited the establishment media frenzy Trump turns against them so easily.

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      1. Jefferson Paul   14 hours ago

        She doesn't seem all there. Her stunt where she promised to show surveillance footage of her nude that her ex had in his possession, where she proceeded to possibly slander him, was bizarre. She claimed he had all of these nudes of her, but it sounds as though he has the surveillance footage of the house he was living in, and she would walk around naked. The way she made it sound was that he was secretly taking photos of her nude, against her consent. It seems much more likely she has a beef with him, presented the video files as something sinister when it wasn't, and she made the allegation while on the House floor allegedly so she can't be sued for slander.

        Then she posted a video she took of an encounter with some gay dude who approached her in a store. She claimed he was belligerent with her, but the video she took of the encounter didn't show that at all, and in fact painted her as the more aggressive one. Perhaps he was much worse before she began filming, but if you don't have any evidence of that on camera, why post a video that just makes her look bad?

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  9. Chumby   17 hours ago

    Texodus

    The Texas House has locked its doors and approved a motion to issue arrest warrants for Democrats who broke quorum by fleeing the state.

    - Libertarian Media

    Texas state police are in hot pursuit on order of governor Abbott. Not sure if it is Smokey and the Bandit cosplay day.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

      Will reason notice that the democrats ran to the most highly gerrymandered states in the union? Even CNN did. So give reason a 10% chance.

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      1. Gaear Grimsrud   16 hours ago

        Hilarious that Pritzger is throwing his weight around threatening to eliminate Republican districts. The Democrats finished that job last time around.

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        1. HorseConch   15 hours ago

          IL is like a buffet of democracy with him in charge.

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        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   15 hours ago

          Yeah it really is hilarious at the outright blatant double standard on display. Illinois Dems even did it to their pet Adam Kinzinger as a "thank you" for his service in being on the Jan 6 commission. New Mexico Democrats added the South Valley of Albuquerque to the 3rd District to explicitly help Gabe Vasquez, even though pretty much everywhere outside Las Cruces in that district is deep red. Maryland redrew lines to eliminate an R seat.

          Democrats stating "well, now we're going to go hard into gerrymandering ourselves!" is like a robber threatening to clean out the bank after he's already made off with the contents of the vault.

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    2. Spiritus Mundi   17 hours ago

      Empty gesuture. They have no jursidiction outside of Texas.

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    3. Nobartium   17 hours ago

      Whilst I'm not for killing quorum rules, stunts like this make the case that they shouldn't exist.

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    4. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   17 hours ago

      It should be fairly easy to track them down since most ran to Chicago.

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  10. Sometimes a Great Notion   17 hours ago

    The journalist Jim Acosta hosted an AI "reanimation" of Parkland victim

    . Gross.

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  11. Fist of Etiquette   17 hours ago

    The journalist Jim Acosta hosted an AI "reanimation" of Parkland victim Joaquin Oliver, who died in the 2018 school shooting, on his show.

    Well, if you're going to fabricate news stories, might as well use all the tools available.

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    1. Randy Sax   17 hours ago

      AI "reanimation" of Parkland victim Joaquin Oliver

      Most of us aren't retarded. We know it's not him, and thinks nothing like he would have. It's a robot wearing his skin. That's all.

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      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   17 hours ago

        Check out dreker here

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        1. Randy Sax   17 hours ago

          You mean Deckard?

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          1. Chumby   17 hours ago

            Thought that was the other story about public surveillance cameras in the UK.

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          2. Ska   16 hours ago

            More importantly who are they tapping for Rachel Rosen's role? It makes all the difference.

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            1. Randy Sax   16 hours ago

              Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL)

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              1. Gaear Grimsrud   16 hours ago

                Would. Even the AI version.

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      2. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   16 hours ago

        I think his parents being OK with this means they are completely broken and would fail the Turing test. A human should know better than to torture others with a recreation of what they imagine their dead child would say.

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        1. mad.casual   11 hours ago

          I was just thinking that CGI reanimating dead people to guilt-trip the living is a great way to induce a need for greater mental health resources.

          Gotta be careful how loud you say something like that though, you never know what might get interpreted as "The Sandy Hook Parents are money-grubbing, politically-motivated attention whores."

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    2. Chumby   17 hours ago

      If men chipping off their nuts snd taking estrogen turns them into women, then this isn’t too many steps beyond that.

      Recall a hologram Tupac performing at Coachella some years ago. Which is weird (Tim Walz weird) because Grok told me that Tupac is still alive.

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      1. VinniUSMC   16 hours ago

        Grok told me that Tupac is still alive.

        Well, that's because he is.

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        1. Outlaw Josey Wales   13 hours ago

          He's on that desert island with Elvis, JFK, Marilyn Monroe and the Batboy.

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          1. Dillinger   11 hours ago

            Jim Morrison on line 2 ... that's right.

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  12. Chumby   17 hours ago

    The Roundup is late. Did it have a recent encounter with a rapefugee gang while ovulating?

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

      Fist is paying them off to post later after a string of non first posts.

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      1. Randy Sax   17 hours ago

        Chumby pays for early access to post first. 1 shiny penny per roundup.

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        1. Quo Usque Tandem   17 hours ago

          Add one disgusted Akita.

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        2. Chumby   17 hours ago

          Comrade, I pay 1 ruble for early access.

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          1. Gaear Grimsrud   16 hours ago

            I thought the Ruble was rubble.

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            1. Chumby   15 hours ago

              They ran out of microchips two years ago and haven been scavenging them from washing machines. The walls are closing in.

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      2. Chumby   17 hours ago

        I was waylaid today at 9:38 AM EST.

        There is a trick to getting the articles a couple minutes early, but not +/- eight minutes. Though they recently dropped an Emma story a few days early but it was bounced before I could comment.

        Besides, I think they like Fist first since he is a safer commenter than I.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

          Fist = Safe Space??

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          1. Chumby   17 hours ago

            I think the editors would rather have a Fist than a based Akita.

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        2. Zeb   16 hours ago

          One of the few remaining "beloved commenters".

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          1. Chumby   15 hours ago

            I think they once gave Pluggo a “best reader comment” some years ago.

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            1. Its_Not_Inevitable   11 hours ago

              Was it the one that started off with "What's up, Peanuts"?

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              1. Chumby   11 hours ago

                I think it was when he changed his name to Buttplug and made some comment that would get scenesters at a NYC/DC cocktail party to chuckle ironically.

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      3. Fist of Etiquette   16 hours ago

        I'm the one that got them to post at a set time all the way back when they were called Morning Links and Riggs was doing them. This new bunch refuse to buy a watch.

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        1. Chumby   16 hours ago

          9:46 AM ≠ 9:30 AM

          I have a watch. It is a family heirloom.

          https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-up-his-ass-christopher-walken-hiding-place-hide-gif-12085193525154129388

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  13. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

    Reason is more critical of peoplr criticizing the incompetent government numbers than they are id the incompetent government numbers.

    Years of pointing out this flawed data and reason didnt care (with Boehm even citing them) until Trump criticized them.

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    1. MollyGodiva   16 hours ago

      The numbers are not flawed. Trump is a moron who needs to be arrested, tried, and executed. Then do the same with his followers, minus the trial.

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      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

        Flailing. If you weren’t such a cunt I’d feel bad.

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      2. I, Woodchipper   15 hours ago

        drunk so early today?

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      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   15 hours ago

        I already asked you not to go full doc retard.

        The definition and use of a correction literally means numbers were flawed dumb fuck.

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      4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   15 hours ago

        "...Trump is a moron who needs to be arrested, tried, and executed..."

        You are a slimy pile of lying, lefty TDS-addled shit who isn't intelligent enough to be embarrassed.
        Fuck off and die, asswipe.

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      5. Red Rocks White Privilege   15 hours ago

        Trump is a moron who needs to be arrested, tried, and executed. Then do the same with his followers, minus the trial.

        LOL, as if your college campuses don't have some gorgeous fields of fire.

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      6. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

        Spoken like a true fascistic Marxist.

        Nothing says democracy and due process like calling for summary execution of the opposition without even bothering with sham trials.

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      7. DesigNate   13 hours ago

        How did I miss this one? Comedy gold!

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      8. Chumby   8 hours ago

        Yeah, ok there Boo Hoo Radley.

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  14. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   17 hours ago

    Meanwhile…

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/doj-present-russiagate-hoax-grand-jury-criminal-charges

    Attorney General Pam Bondi has directed that the Justice Department move forward with a probe into the origins of the Trump-Russia investigation, following the recent release of documents about collusion between the Obama administration and the 2016 Hillary Clinton campaign.

    It was not clear which former officials might be the target of any grand jury activity, where the grand jury that might ultimately hear evidence will be located or which prosecutors — whether career employees or political appointees — might be involved in pursuing the investigation.

    It was also not clear what precise claims of misconduct Trump administration officials believe could form the basis of criminal charges, which a grand jury would have to sign off on for an indictment to be issued.

    In one batch of documents released last month, Gabbard disclosed emails showing that senior Obama administration officials were aware in 2016 that Russians had not hacked state election systems to manipulate the votes in Trump’s favor.

    Sen. Chuck Grassley, the Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, also released a set of emails last week.

    The emails were part of a classified annex of a report issued in 2023 by John Durham, the special counsel who was appointed during the first Trump administration to hunt for any government misconduct during the Russia investigation.

    According to the annex, an FBI informer identified as “TI” provided the bureau in 2016 with two intelligence reports, which described “confidential conversations” between then-Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz and two people at the George Soros-funded Open Society Foundation: Leonard Bernardo and Jeffrey Goldstein.

    The report said that then-President Barack Obama didn’t want Hillary’s scandal to taint his legacy.

    Got popcorn?

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

      Local news.

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    2. Spiritus Mundi   17 hours ago

      We will come to find the prepetrators are less than ham sandwiches.

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    3. Quo Usque Tandem   17 hours ago

      Grand jury + bodacious ham sandwich

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

        Add Cormer issuing subpoena.

        Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton: October 9

        Former President Bill Clinton: October 14

        Former U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland: October 2

        Former FBI Director James Comey: October 7

        Former U.S. Attorney General William Barr: August 18

        Former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales: August 26

        Former U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions: August 28

        Former FBI Director Robert Mueller: September 2

        Former U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch: September 9

        Former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder: September 30

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   16 hours ago

          It's either purjury or the 5th. There's no 3rd option.

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          1. TrickyVic (old school)   15 hours ago

            The 5th all the way down.

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          2. TrickyVic (old school)   15 hours ago

            The walls are closing in?

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    4. Chumby   17 hours ago

      Open Society + Wasserman-Schulz = steaming pile of progressive shit. Sqrsly refers to it as fine dining.

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    5. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   16 hours ago

      No idea what you’re talking about.

      — Reason

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   16 hours ago

        Did you hear Trump fired a bean counter at the BLS?

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

          JUST LIKE HITLER DID!!!

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    6. windycityattorney   15 hours ago

      And how many people did Durham indict when he was actively investigating this same matter? And what was the result of those criminal prosecutions??

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      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

        Do you think probation is the appropriate sentence for forging evidence on a fisa warrant?

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        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   13 hours ago

          Probably ought to ask someone competent to answer that question rather than a TDS-addled steaming pile of shit.

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      2. Mother's Lament   15 hours ago

        Pretty sure that's not a direction you want to go there, bud, what with the recent document drop.

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      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   15 hours ago

        Thank you for admitting the deep state is real. And that a d.c. jury is political, along with the bar, and they dont care about perjury for deep state members.

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        1. windycityattorney   14 hours ago

          Who appointed Durham dipshits? And for the record, he indicted 3 people. Two were acquitted and one got probation.

          So he went 1 for 3 and had access to the same documents you all are thinking now are going to change the outcome since many of the documents came from his own friggin special counsel investigation.

          But just so I am clear; the man appointed by Bill Barr under Trump to investigate the Russia "hoax" was deprived of his ability to properly investigate under Trump's DOJ in an effort to protect random deep state actors?? Is that really the q-cumber dumb as fuck theory Tulsi Gabbard and Trump now want us to believe? The man they (Trump and Barr) appointed special counsel was he also a deep state actor himself...or is that a bridge too far??

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          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   13 hours ago

            Why did you ask how many he indicted? Lol. You had to look up your own answer to your own ignorant fucking question.

            He went 1 for 3, not due to lack of evidence, due to a corrupt and political jury pool dumbfuck.

            Even when evidence is beyond clear, the political retards that make up d.c. prefer state abuses if it aligns with their party.

            Why do you continue to claim to be a lawyer but cant even do basic fact checks or follow basic logic?

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            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   13 hours ago

              "...Why do you continue to claim to be a lawyer but cant even do basic fact checks or follow basic logic?"

              Because it beats admitting to being a TDS steaming pile of shit.

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    7. Its_Not_Inevitable   11 hours ago

      Reason is waiting to see which way the NYT goes with this. If at all.

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  15. Fist of Etiquette   17 hours ago

    Zohran Mamdani x Elizabeth Warren, the crossover event we were all dreading.

    The Ugandans and the Indians have a rich cultural connection.

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    1. Idaho-Bob   17 hours ago

      Awesome.

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    2. Chumby   17 hours ago

      There really should be a no holds barred match between Kamala the Ugandan Giant and Chief Jay Strongbow to kick off those festivities.

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    3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

      As the NY Post stated...

      African American meets native american.

      https://x.com/nypost/status/1952682444093636657?

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      1. Fist of Etiquette   16 hours ago

        Dang it, that's better.

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

          Maybe mix in something about gift giving and knife dancing next time?

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  16. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

    Another democrat rep goes south of the border and declares she cares more about Guatemala than America. This seems to be a pattern for Democrats who also claim illegals just want to be Americans.

    https://www.newsweek.com/maga-deport-democratic-representative-delia-ramirez-guatemala-2108921

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   17 hours ago

      'Be american' means get american government handouts. Not acutally be american.

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    2. Fats of Fury   15 hours ago

      "The daughter of undocumented immigrants[4] from Guatemala" -Wiki

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    3. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

      Joining this previously posted...

      https://www.bizpacreview.com/2025/07/25/say-what-homeland-security-gives-pause-to-dem-reps-call-to-help-our-country-of-somalia-1570894/

      The Department of Homeland Security highlighted Maine state Rep. Deqa Dhalac (D), commenting on her goal of helping “our country of Somalia.”

      A Somali refugee who came to America in 1992 when she married a Somali businessman in Atlanta, Dhalac’s remarks draw into question the concept of assimilation.

      “How can the politics in Somalia resonate with what we have here in the United States, the democracy that we have?” Dhalac asked. “How can you help us be a better country and build back what we used to have a long time ago? So hopefully, we will be able to help our country, our former country, Somalia.”

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  17. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   17 hours ago

    If Isreal killed every palistienian I would not care.

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

      I don't think Egypt, Jordan, or Saudi Arabia would give a rat's ass, either.

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  18. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

    Speaking of incompetent government... FDA recalls butter for not listing milk as an ingredient.

    https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/fda-boosts-nationwide-butter-recall-class-ii-failing-list-milk

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    1. Idaho-Bob   17 hours ago

      Waiting for the illegal pushers to tell us this is how government is justified. "The feds are keeping us safe!!!"

      Fucking irony.

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      1. Ajsloss   17 hours ago

        "The feds are keeping us safe!!!"

        Paging MollyTony.

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        1. Randy Sax   17 hours ago

          My feds keep you safe, your feds keep me safe.

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    2. Chumby   17 hours ago

      Milk not listed as an ingredient? A churn for the worse.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   16 hours ago

        You butter believe it.

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      2. Gaear Grimsrud   15 hours ago

        Udder nonsense.

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      3. mad.casual   11 hours ago

        No whey! They gotta be on the label casein' don't lactose ingredients.

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    3. MollyGodiva   16 hours ago

      Recalls due to unlabeled allergies in products is normal. Only the MAGAs will see the failure of a company, and the proper response of an agency to somehow be bad for the agency.

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      1. Zeb   16 hours ago

        If you have a milk allergy and don't know that butter is milk, I don't know what to tell you.

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        1. Randy Sax   16 hours ago

          Conversely, I think we should take allergy warnings off obvious products. Can of peanuts; Contains peanuts, etc. Let people that dumb kill themselves off.

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          1. Jefferson Paul   14 hours ago

            Does a can of Chicken of the Sea tuna have to label that it contains no chicken?

            There was an SNL skit from over 20 years ago where Jessica Simpson made fun of herself for thinking it did contain chicken.

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        2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   15 hours ago

          I do. Stop being a retard

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          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

            It can’t.

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          2. Zeb   15 hours ago

            Retardation is usually a permanent condition.

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        3. DesigNate   15 hours ago

          TBF, Molly is not very bright.

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          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

            Far too kind.

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          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   15 hours ago

            That’s puting it mildly.

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          3. Chumby   15 hours ago

            On a scale of Tony to 10, Molly is bottoming with Tony. Charliehall is there too.

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            1. Outlaw Josey Wales   13 hours ago

              Akita Matata ...

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        4. MollyGodiva   14 hours ago

          I hate when I have so spell out such simple stuff to the MAGAmorons. There is no law or regulation that says "butter" has to be made from milk. Same with the product "Just Mayo", which has no mayo in it.
          So since normal (not MAGA idiots) know that butter does not have to have milk in it, and the butter they bought did not have milk, they do need to be warned if it has unexpected milk.

          There is no lower limit on the stupidity of a MAGA.

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          1. TrickyVic (old school)   14 hours ago

            You seem to be describing a butter substitute.

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            1. Mike Parsons   14 hours ago

              He cant believe its not butter

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          2. Idaho-Bob   14 hours ago

            Molly lies or is just plain stupid.

            In the United States, butter is legally defined as a food product made exclusively from milk or cream, or both, with or without salt and coloring, and containing not less than 80% milkfat, according to the United States Code.

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          3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   13 hours ago

            Do you believe turducken is genetically modified food as well?

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          4. Outlaw Josey Wales   13 hours ago

            Peanut butter. But it does contain peanuts so those with a peanut allergy should stay away from peanut butter. It also implies that the peanuts are made into a buttery substance. But wouldn't one have to understand what actual butter is in order to make the connection to peanut butter?
            Just mayo clearly marks itself as a 'vegan' product. Here's its website. https://www.ju.st/eat/just-mayo . Know what they can't say they are in any way, shape or form? Mayonnaise.

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          5. DesigNate   13 hours ago

            Hahahahaha, this is White Mike levels of cope.

            Suck it, doc.

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          6. Mother's Lament   11 hours ago

            There is no law or regulation that says "butter" has to be made from milk."

            Actually, there is.

            21 U.S. Code § 321a - “Butter” defined
            "For the purposes of the Food and Drug Act of June 30, 1906 (Thirty-fourth Statutes at Large, page 768) “butter” shall be understood to mean the food product usually known as butter, and which is made exclusively from milk or cream, or both, with or without common salt, and with or without additional coloring matter, and containing not less than 80 per centum by weight of milk fat, all tolerances having been allowed for.

            (Mar. 4, 1923, ch. 268, 42 Stat. 1500.)"

            What you are awkwardly trying to describe is Margarine.

            Margarine isn't butter, Tony.

            I know you're stupid enough to think that the stuff at your Whole Foods was made in a factory, but everyone with an IQ out of the single digits knows that unsalted butter is 100% milk.

            If someone doesn't know that milk is the only ingredient in unsalted butter then they are too stupid to worry about.

            "I hate when I have so spell out such simple stuff to the MAGAmorons."

            No, go ahead. Spell it out one more time.

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          7. Diarrheality   7 hours ago

            Hilarious. Pwned.

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            1. Chumby   7 hours ago

              HA!

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      2. TrickyVic (old school)   15 hours ago

        ""Only the MAGAs will see the failure of a company,""

        Swing and a miss. They don't see it as a failure of a company. They see it as a failure in education that you didn't know butter contains milk. And that if you have milk allergies you have a responsibility to know this.

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

          Molly believes daddy government is responsible for keeping her safe.

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          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   15 hours ago

            MG is a dumb shit, ain't s/he?

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          2. TrickyVic (old school)   14 hours ago

            How many teachers' unions does it take for a kid to learn how butter is made?

            0. Close the DoE.

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        2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   12 hours ago

          To be fair, it also contains HO2

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    4. I, Woodchipper   15 hours ago

      Get rid of the FDA entirely.

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    5. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

      This is why we need EXPERTS!

      Seen on Reddit, etc.

      AITAH for making a dairy free cake with eggs?
      My friend invited me over for dinner.

      Our tradition is to bring food when invited to dinner.

      I asked if I should bring a dessert.

      She said that would be great but it needs to be dairy free because her daughter stopped eating dairy.

      I know a great cake recipe with no dairy.

      I brought it to the dinner and it was a big hit.

      My friend asked for the recipe and I told her.

      When I got to the eggs her daughter became upset and ran upstairs.

      My friend asked why I put eggs in the cake.

      I said the eggs were responsible for the spongy texture.

      She said the cake wasn’t dairy free.

      I said it was.

      There is no milk or milk products in the cake, no cheese, no butter, etc…

      My friend said eggs are dairy.

      I was confused.

      Dairy is milk and milk products to my understanding.

      She said dairy is anything that comes from an animal.

      I asked if honey is dairy then.

      She said no, because bees are insects.

      I apologized, but I could tell she was still upset.

      AITA?

      I’ve never heard of eggs being dairy before.

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      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   14 hours ago

        Never apologize to those people.

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        1. mad.casual   11 hours ago

          Next time, bring bacon or carnitas or brats and wear a t-shirt that says, "Pork - The other racially superior meat." Insist it's OK because you're eating the pigs that thought they were better than the others.

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      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   13 hours ago

        Knew molly was a redditor.

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        1. Chumby   7 hours ago

          Tony made a post on reddit about how his akita no longer respects him.

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      3. Outlaw Josey Wales   13 hours ago

        From Websters:
        dairy
        noun
        1
        : a room, building, or establishment where milk is kept and butter or cheese is made
        2
        a
        : the department of farming or of a farm that is concerned with the production of milk, butter, and cheese
        b
        : a farm devoted to such production
        3
        : an establishment for the sale or distribution chiefly of milk and milk products
        4
        : milk from a cow or other domestic animal (such as a goat)
        also : food (such as ice cream, cheese, or yogurt) made primarily of or from milk

        Butter would be considered Dairy. 🙂

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      4. But SkyNet is a Private Company   12 hours ago

        Bacon and chicken tenders are dairy?

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      5. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

        Your friend and the kid are retards.

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      6. Mother's Lament   10 hours ago

        Progressives are allowed to vote but they think butter can be made without milk and eggs are dairy.

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  19. Fist of Etiquette   17 hours ago

    When I visit even elite colleges now, it strikes me that the kids have fewer and fewer common references.

    They all know COVID mitigation. That's their shared trauma.

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  20. Sometimes a Great Notion   17 hours ago

    Boomer next door is selling his 80 acre farm to developers, after he refused to sell us 10-20 acres a year ago.

    Probably should've offered to buy all 80 acres, deadbeat.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   17 hours ago

      They probably offered to trade for some beads and homemade jelly.

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      1. Idaho-Bob   17 hours ago

        Homemade goat milk soap. Goddamn ex-CA women sell it at the local farmer's markets.

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        1. Jefferson Paul   13 hours ago

          Is the homemade goat milk soap "dairy free."

          Asking for MollyGodiva.

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          1. Idaho-Bob   13 hours ago

            MollyG would demand a government mandated label - "Soap - Not for human consumption"

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    2. Chumby   17 hours ago

      If you don’t own it, you don’t control it. 10 to 20 acres surrounded by a 60-acre development would still suck ass. But hillbilly would just sell to a developer for phase 2 after the other homes were built and occupied.

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    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   16 hours ago

      Depending on the jurisdiction, splitting off 10-20 acres from 80 could be a pain in the ass, and would incur some costs to get the process started.

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      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   16 hours ago

        Yup, or perhaps part of the other 60 acres can't be developed and the developers offer was all or just 40 acres. Tons of considerations in land development deals.

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    4. I, Woodchipper   15 hours ago

      i'm sympathetic to many criticisms of boomers, especially related to how they often treat their own kids, but this is dumb.

      no one has to sell you their farm, bro.

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      1. Chumby   15 hours ago

        Yup. Had some neighbors with maybe 20 ask if I would split off some so they could have more. I was polite but I’m not doing that either.

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    5. Jefferson Paul   13 hours ago

      And we also don't know what they offered for the 20 acres. The seller might have been inclined to sell them the 20 acres they sought to buy, but they could have offered way below market value for it.

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  21. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   17 hours ago

    Los Angeles Chargers linebacker Denzel Perryman has been released from police custody,
    It's because of white privlage

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  22. Fist of Etiquette   17 hours ago

    Israel's cabinet could authorise on Tuesday a complete military takeover of Gaza for the first time in two decades...

    They're in danger of inviting bad press.

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  23. Fist of Etiquette   17 hours ago

    Taiwan prosecutors arrested six people suspected of stealing trade secrets from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co...

    TOTALLY unacceptable conduct.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   17 hours ago

      Resistor we much.

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  24. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   17 hours ago

    The Soros trolls here won’t like this.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/real-russiagate-scandal-blows-away-watergate-crimes-and-treason-us-establishment

    Tulsi Gabbard, the current Director of National Intelligence (DNI), and CIA director John Ratcliffe have both accused former President Barack Obama of engaging in a “treasonous conspiracy” to subvert the constitutional process. It’s not just Obama who is implicated in this high crime. Other former senior officials in his 2013-17 administration, including former DNI James Clapper, CIA director John Brennan, and head of the FBI James Comey, are also implicated. If justice is permitted, the political repercussions are truly earth-shattering.

    The potential impact is not confined solely to the violation of U.S. laws and the democratic process – bad enough that is. The Russiagate scandal that began in 2016 has had a lasting, damaging effect on U.S. and European relations with Russia.

    The frightfully dangerous NATO proxy war incited in Ukraine, which threatens to escalate into a full-scale world war, was fueled in large part by the hostility generated from the false claims of Russian interference in the U.S. elections.

    The allegations that Russian President Vladimir Putin oversaw a subversion campaign against the 2016 U.S. election and colluded with Donald Trump to get him elected were always specious. The scandal was based on shoddy intel claims to purportedly explain how Trump defeated his Democrat rival, Hillary Clinton. Subsequently, the scandal was hyped into a seemingly credible narrative by U.S. intelligence chiefs at the direction of then-President Barack Obama as a way to delegitimize Trump’s incoming first-term presidency.

    Years before the recent intelligence disclosures, many independent journalists, including Aaron Maté, and former intelligence analysts like Ray MacGovern and William Binney, had cogently disproven the official Russiagate claims. Not only were these claims false, they were knowingly false. That is, lies and deliberate distortions. Russia did not hack emails belonging to the Democratic National Committee to discredit Clinton. Clinton’s corruption was exposed by a DNC internal leak to Julian Assange’s Wikileaks whistleblower site. That was partly why Assange was persecuted with years-long incarceration.

    A large enough number of voters simply despised Clinton and her warmongering psychopathy, as well as her sell-out of working-class Americans for Wall Street largesse.

    In any case, it is instructive to compare the Russiagate farce with the Watergate scandal.

    Watergate involved spying by the White House of President Richard Nixon against a Democrat rival in the 1972 election. The political crisis that ensued led to Nixon’s resignation in disgrace in 1974. The U.S. nation was shocked by the dirty tricks. Several senior White House officials were later convicted and served time in jail for crimes related to the affair. Nixon was later pardoned by his successor, Gerald Ford, and avoided prosecution. Nevertheless, Watergate indelibly disgraced U.S. politics and, at the time, was described as “the worst political scandal of the 20th century.”

    The real scandal behind Russiagate was not Trump’s alleged misdeeds or those of Russia, but the criminal conspiracy by Obama and his administration to sabotage the 2016 election and subsequently to overthrow the Trump presidency and the democratic will of the American people. Tulsi Gabbard, the nation’s most senior intelligence chief, has said that this amounts to “treason,” and she has called for the prosecution of Obama and other former senior aides.

    Arguably, the real Russiagate scandal is far more criminal and devastating in its political implications than Watergate. The latter involved illegal spying and dirty tricks. Whereas, Russiagate involved a president and his intelligence chiefs trying to subvert the entire democratic process. Not only that, but the U.S. mainstream media are also now exposed for perpetrating a propaganda heist on the American public. All of the major U.S. media outlets amplified the politicised intelligence orchestrated by the Obama administration, claiming that Russia interfered in the election and that Trump was a “Kremlin stooge.” The hoax became an obsession in the U.S. media for years and piled up severe damage in international relations, a nefarious legacy that we are living with today.

    How shameful and absurd that an even greater assault on American democracy and international relations in the form of Russiagate is ignored and buried by “America’s finest”. That the scandal is ignored and buried should be of no surprise because to properly reveal it would shatter the foundations of the U.S. political establishment and the sinister role of the deep state and its mainstream media propaganda system.

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    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   16 hours ago

      "...The allegations that Russian President Vladimir Putin oversaw a subversion campaign against the 2016 U.S. election and colluded with Donald Trump to get him elected were always specious..."

      turd hardest hit.

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    2. MollyGodiva   16 hours ago

      MAGAs: Correctly responding to accurate reports that a presidential campaign is working with the Russians is criminal and treason. But an actual attempted coup is totally cool.

      MAGAs are loser scumbags that are powered only by hate. What is the daily rental price for a backhoe? (MAGAs: A backhoe is a a type of excavating equipment, not what your daughter, wife, and dog do in the evenings.)

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      1. DesigNate   15 hours ago

        lol, cope and seethe harder, doc.

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      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

        Yep, definitely needs a programming update.

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      3. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   15 hours ago

        Did I break you, Dr. Retard?

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      4. Red Rocks White Privilege   15 hours ago

        Your personal fantasies are none of our business, hicklib.

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      5. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

        Wow, what a mendacious cunt you've turned out to be.

        Muting. Goodbye.

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      6. TrickyVic (old school)   15 hours ago

        Some people were upset the bullet missed a presidential candidate who was a former president. Some people were happy that a CEO was murdered. Some people want to see other people die just out of envy of others that have lots more money than them.

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      7. Chumby   15 hours ago

        PWNED

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        1. Diarrheality   7 hours ago

          Damn right!

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      8. Mother's Lament   14 hours ago

        "MAGAs are loser scumbags that are powered only by hate."

        I know I've been saying "Tony" but this is starting to read more and more like Sarckles.

        I wonder if he stole Tony's sock?

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   13 hours ago

          Think all the reddit Maddow watchers all just sound the same at this point.

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      9. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   6 hours ago

        Go suck on this, Molly.

        https://www.zerohedge.com/political/taibbi-no-doubt-left-russiagate-was-cover

        It was a cover-up.

        The Russiagate scandal has long been one of the most convoluted, hard-to-follow news stories of all time. It even has multiple names thanks to its peculiar chronology. From 2016 until April 2019 — while Democrats still held out hope of “presidency-wrecking” revelations that would topple Donald Trump — it was generally known as the Trump-Russia scandal. After Special Counsel Robert Mueller broke the hearts of MSNBC audiences by issuing a report without new indictments, attention began to be cast on the scandal’s fraudulent construction, how it was propped up by political spying, illegal leaks, and WMD-style intelligence fakery. Trump and others began to call it Spygate or the Russia hoax, but the name that stuck was Russiagate.

        Those of us who covered the story from the start had a difficult time explaining to audiences what it was, as we ourselves didn’t know. Now we do, after a month of disclosures, capped yesterday by the release of an explosive (and inexplicably long-classified) annex to the report of Special Counsel John Durham. Finally, it seems, we can explain how the idea that Donald Trump was “gaffing his way toward treason” through a secret love affair (really!) with Vladimir Putin and extensive “ties” or “links” with Russia suddenly became The Biggest Story in the World in the summer of 2016.

        It wasn’t the start of a corruption story about Trump, but the cover-up of a still-unresolved Hillary Clinton scandal. This is purely a Clinton corruption story, probably the last in a long line, as neither Bill nor Hillary will have careers when it’s finished, if they stay out of jail. Characteristically, the most powerful political family since the Kennedys won’t just bring many individuals down with them, but whole institutions, as the FBI, the CIA, the presidency of Barack Obama, and a dozen or so of the most celebrated brands in commercial media will see their names blackened forever through association with this idiotic caper. A fair number of those media companies should (and likely will) go out of business.

        Now, we know. With the help of the declassified Durham material, we can explain the whole affair in three brushstrokes.

        One, Hillary Clinton and her team apparently hoped to deflect from her email scandal and other problems via a campaign tying Trump to Putin. Two, American security services learned of these plans. Three — and this is the most important part — instead of outing them, authorities used state resources to massively expand and amplify her scheme. The last stage required the enthusiastic cooperation and canine incuriosity of the entire commercial news business, which cheered as conspirators made an enforcement target of Trump, actually an irrelevant bystander.

        I’ve tiptoed for years around what I believed to be true about this case, worrying some mitigating fact might emerge.

        Now, there’s no doubt.

        Hillary Clinton got in a jam, and the FBI, CIA, and the Obama White House got her out of it by setting Trump up. That’s it. It was a cover-up, plain and simple...

        ...

        These people just can’t stop lying. The whole thing is one endless lie, the reason for which is now clear.

        Hillary Clinton got in trouble being dumb, tried to save herself by doing something dumber, and all of American officialdom backed the play. That’s it.

        A last period of denials awaits, but they’ll fizzle like the rest, after which not much will be left but blunt truth — and hopefully, consequences.

        So fuck you, Molly, Shrike, and the other Soros trolls.

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    3. Fats of Fury   15 hours ago

      Trials will go nowhere if this is prosecuted in DC.

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      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   14 hours ago

        Florida.

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    4. TrickyVic (old school)   15 hours ago

      The question is will the source of the claims hold up. The messages I saw that they said were from emails had no email information. I saw no proof that they were legit emails. Banking on those documents would be failure.

      Now if that information leads to more reliable proof, then they have something.

      I'm cynical, I would not be surprised if the burn bags were conveniently left there by IC for the purpose of getting the Trump admin to make big fools of themselves. Or at least poison an investigation. Think of it as one of the ways to Sunday the IC can screw a sitting president. Just as Schumer noted.

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  25. Spiritus Mundi   17 hours ago

    Poor Liz. Two days of Reeee over a nothing burger.

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    1. Dillinger   16 hours ago

      anything to not say "I'm really really sorry about all that Gaza nonsense"

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  26. Randy Sax   17 hours ago

    They don't recognize bible quotes, don't recognize Shakespeare, don't recognize Dickens ... but don't seem to have substituted those old standbys with some other system of common reference points.

    Forgive my word use, but this strikes me as a "boomer" take. They have substituted that system for new common reference points. The author is just too old to recognize them.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

      No cap.

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    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   12 hours ago

      Harry Potter?

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  27. Nobartium   17 hours ago

    There is no upside to total military occupation of Gaza if the RoE are light.

    Either win the damn war, or leave them to die of their own accord.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   17 hours ago

      Too much cousin fucking there for them to die out.

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      1. Ajsloss   17 hours ago

        West Virginia, mountain momma,
        Take me home, country roads.

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        1. Dillinger   16 hours ago

          how do you pass on a Shelbyville opportunity?

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          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

            The monorail couldn’t get me there.

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  28. Neutral not Neutered   16 hours ago

    "But two things are possibly correct: That such massive errors that require such revisions indicate real, persistent issues with methodology that need to be corrected, and that Biden was given an awful lot of free passes by media and onlookers in the government as he ran the economy into the ground, with revisions being covered a lot less than the initial headlines."

    Possibly? No the two things are absolutely correct. These two things happened, anyone with their eyes open saw it.

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    1. MollyGodiva   16 hours ago

      Due please stop showing us how stupid you are. The methodology is fine. Revisions as new data comes in is part of it. How do you get such a pure vacuum between those dumbo like things on the side of your head.

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      1. Neutral not Neutered   15 hours ago

        I am sorry but I figured you out. Your name is projecting your favorite drug, Molly!

        What is their effect on the body? Increased motor activity, alertness, heart rate, blood pressure, muscle tension, tremors, teeth clenching, nausea, sweating, euphoria, empathy, reduced inhibition, chills, blurred vision, confusion, anxiety, depression, paranoia, severe dehydration, sleep problems, and drug craving.

        That explains your continuous posting of stupid shit.

        Liver and kidney damage: Long-term use of MDMA is associated with damage to the liver and kidneys. Mood swings: MDMA use results in massive neurotransmitter release in the brain that is later offset by a depletion of neurotransmitters when the individual has stopped using the drug.

        You should seek professional help. Once you are sober and no longer addicted to Molly you can get a shrink to help you with your mental disorders. That is if you have enough brain tissue left to begin having normal thought processes and comprehension of reality.

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      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

        Leftists always project.

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        1. MollyGodiva   14 hours ago

          For MAGAs, every accusation is a confession.

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          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   13 hours ago

            For TDS-addled lying piles of slimy shit, every post is a chance to prove how fucking stupid you are.
            Fuck off and die, shitstain.

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          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   12 hours ago

            Good golly, Miss Molly, you sure do like to project.

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      3. TrickyVic (old school)   15 hours ago

        ""The methodology is fine. Revisions as new data comes in is part of it.""

        If revisions swing the original report heavily, then there is a problem with the report methodology. Perhaps the bigger issue is pretending the original report is accurate. But politicians gonna politic.

        Perhaps liberals should think of it this way. The current methodology helped Trump get elected.

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        1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   12 hours ago

          Molly is about to turn into a gray box. I can’t handle this level of oblivious stupidity

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      4. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

        If the revisions are 20% or 30%, then the initial methodology is wrong. Even if the methodology itself works out to the "right" numbers eventually, the process should be revamped to either NOT issue the outrageously wrong initial estimates and instead wait until the "revisions" are complete, and only then issue the numbers; or, improve the process so that the initial numbers are far more accurate...if revisions are 2-3% or something, that's fine.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   15 hours ago

          The revisions were 3 stddev and 5 stddev respectively for the two prior months.

          Molly who fails in all aspects of life doesn't understand why that is bad.

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          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   14 hours ago

            She doesn’t even understand what you just said.

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        2. Outlaw Josey Wales   13 hours ago

          If the revisions are needed every time and always in the same direction then the methodology is bad.

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      5. sarcasmic   15 hours ago

        The validity of the data is determined by how it makes people look. If it makes Democrats look bad, or Trump look good, then the data is totally legit. If it makes Democrats look good, or Trump look bad, then the data is fabricated. MAGAs judge everything based upon who, not what.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   15 hours ago

          Project much, Strawcasmic?

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          1. TrickyVic (old school)   15 hours ago

            Remember this is a guy that has argued that the decision to follow laws is based in one's morality. That is very much putting the who above the what.

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        2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   14 hours ago

          Poor stupid sarcbot.

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        3. DesigNate   13 hours ago

          I’m pretty sure most people here agree with firing the guy responsible for nearly two years of always correcting the data downwards.

          I mean, I guess we could just leave him in his position and always assume the numbers are bullshit instead, but that seems counterproductive.

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      6. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   15 hours ago

        Doc retard is spiraling lol.

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        1. Chumby   14 hours ago

          This is like watching sarc when he finally broke.

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          1. Mother's Lament   14 hours ago

            I wonder if Sarc stole Tony's nick because he was tired of not being able to respond what with his fake mute button threats.

            His 'Alberto Balsam' sock account was exposed so maybe he changed the nick on it to one of Tony's.

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            1. Chumby   14 hours ago

              I think one postulated that charlie is also sarc. Molly is Tony.

              Like with MAPedo Shrike, they can’t make cogent arguments so they opt for the heckler’s veto. They think if they samefag enough people will buy into their bullshit. Big Akita is not impressed.

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  29. Ezra MacVie   16 hours ago

    ALL government statistics are rigged. Always have been.
    Rig to taste.

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    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   11 hours ago

      This guy gets it.

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  30. Dillinger   16 hours ago

    >>Once a more moderate Republican, she's now gone full sycophant, saying she'll be a "super MAGA governor."

    so when Nancy says "super MAGA" is this super maga like a) Marge "I'm quitting GOP", b) Steve "Pardon me, please", 3) Tucker "This podcast brought to you by Qatar" or 4) Charlie "I hate Israel so much I'm turning Dave Smith loose on my impressionable utes" ... or does she mean maga like T?

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  31. Dillinger   16 hours ago

    >> Zohran Mamdani x Elizabeth Warren, the crossover event we were all dreading.

    the power boner in his eyes is terrifying.

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    1. Fats of Fury   15 hours ago

      Red Herring's finances must be doing well. She like fellow traveler Bernie no longer criticize millionaires. What are they going to do when J(umbo) B(utt) Pritzker runs in 2028?

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      1. Dillinger   11 hours ago

        she's gonna have to be more fleet of foot than last week or face grave danger from being sat upon.

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  32. Dillinger   16 hours ago

    >>Reanimating those who've died:

    no. I'm sorry for those parents but nobody should encourage this.

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  33. Dillinger   16 hours ago

    >>The journalist Jim Acosta

    also no.

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

      Jim Acosta plays a journalist on TV. But that doesn't make him one, anymore than Katherine Heigl is a doctor.

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      1. Dillinger   13 hours ago

        she's more qualified for physical exam than he is for interview.

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        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   6 hours ago

          She can examine my physique anytime.

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  34. Dillinger   16 hours ago

    >>Los Angeles Chargers linebacker Denzel Perryman has been released from police custody

    never would have happened to a San Diego Charger.

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  35. VinniUSMC   16 hours ago

    "Israel's cabinet could authorise on Tuesday a complete military takeover of Gaza for the first time in two decades, media reported, despite international pressure for a ceasefire to ease appalling conditions in the besieged Palestinian territory,"

    This is exactly why Israel should take over Gaza, at least temporarily. If the "international community of Jew-haters" is dead set on blaming Israel for everything that Hamas is doing inside Gaza to screw its own people, then Israel absolutely should just take over. Then, Israel should rescue the remaining hostages and clear out Hamas, so that the adults can finally fix the problems Hamas insists on creating. Then, if Gaza/"Palestine" is serious about being anything other than a twisted joke of the Arab world, they should be allowed to re-form a trial government, and show that they can live with some tenets that don't include the eradication of Israel. Any further violence against Israel should then be considered immediately disqualifying of Gaza's existence as an independent entity, and any hope of self-determination of Gazans as "Palestinian" in the current region.

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   15 hours ago

      Yeah we occupied Iraq and Afghanistan with a lot less justification. Israel is being blamed for starving Gazans while Hamas posts videos of starving Israeli hostages. And even the Arab states are saying Hamas has to go if there will ever be a Palestinian state. As a practical matter an Israeli occupation in the short term may be the only way way out of this shit show.

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   15 hours ago

        Note that at no time in the last 50 years or so have any Arab states offered to re-home Palestinians. There's a lot of reasons for that.

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  36. Kemuel   16 hours ago

    I read that the numbers were reduced based on lower public-sector numbers in fields like education. Why are government work houses included in a jobs report?

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    1. MollyGodiva   16 hours ago

      [flicks Kemuel on the forehead] There is really nothing there.

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      1. DesigNate   15 hours ago

        Moved

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      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   15 hours ago

        Too easy.

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      3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   13 hours ago

        Looks in MG's ear, sees out the other side.

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      4. Kemuel   10 hours ago

        I'm just saying that public-sector work isn't really a job, it's a wealth transfer. Lets keep it out of future job reports, please.

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        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   6 hours ago

          While we're at it. let's take government spending out of GDP. In fact, let's subtract it. Sadly, neither will happen.

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  37. Fist of Etiquette   16 hours ago

    Somehow get permission/cause to search his car

    Charges dropped? I'm thinking there's something to that "somehow" bit.

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  38. Quicktown Brix   16 hours ago

    I mean [they claimed] the economy was roaring, it was a beautiful thing. And I said there's no way this is happening; it's going the opposite direction. And two weeks later, they said I was right," responded Trump

    You're so close, Donny. It's right there...you just need like one more activated synapse to make the connection.

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  39. MollyGodiva   16 hours ago

    The only ones bigger traitors and morons than Trump are the shits who follow him.

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    1. Use the Schwartz   16 hours ago

      I mean I get the gist here, but it reads like drunken text-to-speech.

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   16 hours ago

        Starting to think molly is a sarc sock.

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        1. Chumby   15 hours ago

          I have surmised that Sandra is back as Molly in a reprise of her OBL heydays.

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          1. Gaear Grimsrud   15 hours ago

            Well apparently OBL lost his sense of humor in the interim.

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          2. Its_Not_Inevitable   6 hours ago

            Yeah, it could be parody, but it sucks. Nothing clever, too cliche, and not funny at all.

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      2. Neutral not Neutered   15 hours ago

        MDMA withdrawls

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        1. Dillinger   15 hours ago

          hey now let's leave the good stuff out of this.

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    2. DesigNate   15 hours ago

      You’re really phoning it in today, doc.

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    3. TrickyVic (old school)   15 hours ago

      If you believe in guilt by association, then what is your problem with going after Palestinians who would follow Hamas?

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    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   15 hours ago

      I'm so happy you're part of team jeffsarc/Mike.

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    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   15 hours ago

      Treason against marxism is loyalty to humanity.

      Your side doesn't even like the US, faggot, don't act like you have a scintilla of patriotic feeling.

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    6. Jefferson Paul   13 hours ago

      If this were X, I'd think you were engagement farming.

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  40. DesigNate   16 hours ago

    “Why do people feel entitled to buy other people’s things at a time and price of their choosing?

    ✨Hillbilly Things✨
    @hillbillythings
    Boomer next door is selling his 80 acre farm to developers, after he refused to sell us 10-20 acres a year ago.

    You don’t hate that generation enough.”

    They should absolutely be free to sell their property at the time of their choosing and at a price that someone else is willing to pay.

    The frustration is understandable though.

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   15 hours ago

      Sorry his frustration is irrelevant. It's likely that negotiations for the sale were in the works a year ago and selling off a piece of the property would smoke the deal. And blaming it on the fact that his neighbor is a boomer ex pastor who likes Israel is just straight up stupid. He's a whiny little punk who's revenge is to move out. I sure hope he doesn't move in next door to me.

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      1. DesigNate   13 hours ago

        Oh it’s totally irrelevant, especially the ex-pastor who likes Israel bit, but acknowledging that doesn’t give us an avenue to hate on Boomers.

        And that’s what’s really important.

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    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   15 hours ago

      There's plenty to criticize the Boomers for. Not selling off a chunk of his land so he can sell the whole 80 acres to a developer is not one of them.

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      1. Mother's Lament   14 hours ago

        Yes, but hating on that generation and how they have destroyed the world fuels my indulgence in resentment.

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    3. Mike Parsons   13 hours ago

      "selling his 80 acre farm to developers, after he refused to sell us 10-20 acres a year ago."

      Too many confounding variables. I prefer a long term lease on my rentals because its significantly less work and headaches for me than getting a little more money each month but having the hassle of finding new renters, losing money while it sits open, on boarding new renters when they move in/out etc. Im sure someone looking for a 3 month lease thinks im an asshole for choosing a 12 month person instead of them, but fuck em.

      That boomer could have any number of reasons including:

      -Less of a headache to sell it in one chunk
      -More profitable to sell it in one chunk, and more likely to sell the entire thing if not piece meal
      - He might have thought you were an asshole
      - Maybe you have a history of doing shit with your property that he doesn't want to look at while he still owns a portion of it.
      -Maybe something you had planned for the land would make it less desirable to either live next to or sell the rest in the future
      -Maybe its his private property so fuck off thats why

      I get some of the boomer hate, but at some point, we have to realize every generation faces their own challenges, and its starting to sound like whiney fucking baby progressives who are always victim to someone. We live the most cushy and objectively easy lives humans have ever lived in the history of existence, time to STFU and find your own solution, no ones coming to save the millenials/Z/alpha/whoever, and cursing the boomers aint going to do a damn thing for you.

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      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   12 hours ago

        Only Millenial cynts obsess over “Boomers”, and they are the real plague on humanity

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        1. Mother's Lament   10 hours ago

          I'm GenX and Millennials will have to start working overtime if they want to reach the level of societal devastation the Boomers wreaked.

          Of course I'm talking about them as a generational cohort and not individuals.

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          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 hours ago

            I'm GenX and Millennials will have to start working overtime if they want to reach the level of societal devastation the Boomers wreaked.

            The most retarded of them are already in Congress and various state houses. Give it about ten years and things are likely to really be in the shitter because they've been on an entitlement jag their whole fucking lives, and the remaining Gen-Xers who know how to get anything done are going to start retiring at that point.

            The fruits of the Boomer New Left's takeover of academia are going to be reaping a bitter harvest.

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            1. DesigNate   5 hours ago

              This is part of what I was alluding to with understanding the frustration.

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  41. MWAocdoc   15 hours ago

    "[United States of America's] cabinet could authorize a complete military takeover of [Germany] despite international pressure for a ceasefire to ease appalling conditions in the besieged [Nazi] territory"

    There ... fixed it for you!

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   15 hours ago

      Wouldn't an occupation be the most efficient way to get a cease fire? Really struggling with the logic here.

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  42. MWAocdoc   15 hours ago

    "the commissioner of labor statistics

    Why is there even such an office in the first place? The entire Bureau of Labor Statistics and the Department of Labor should be terminated with extreme prejudice immediately! Ten of the Cabinet-level Federal departments are unconstitutional: Agriculture, Commerce, Labor, Health and Human Services, Housing and Urban Development, Transportation, Energy, Education, Veterans and Homeland Security. Get rid of them all!

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   15 hours ago

      Reason was all about ABOLISH just a few months ago. All of the deep analysis about the pros and cons of these grifters is just tedious. A return to first principles would be refreshing.

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   14 hours ago

        Labor wasn't on their list...

        Abolish Amtrak
        Abolish Antitrust
        Abolish the Army
        Abolish Borders
        Abolish the DEA
        Abolish the Department of Education
        Abolish the Department of Transportation
        Abolish the EPA
        Abolish the FCC
        Abolish the FDA
        Abolish the Fed
        Abolish the Federal Minimum Wage
        Abolish Federal Student Loans
        Abolish FEMA
        Abolish FOIA
        Abolish ICE
        Abolish the IRS—and the Income Tax Too
        Abolish the National Park Service
        Abolish the NSA and CIA
        Abolish Obamacare
        Abolish the Small Business Administration
        Abolish Social Security
        Abolish the TSA
        Abolish the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau

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    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   14 hours ago

      I’m impressed you remembered all of them.

      — Rick Perry

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      1. Jefferson Paul   13 hours ago

        Damn it, Penguin. I was set to post a comment like, "Rick Perry could have used your memory in 2012--You didn't even have to repeat one of them to get to three," only to find you beat me to it!

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      2. Mike Parsons   13 hours ago

        "oops"

        - also Rick Perry

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  43. Incunabulum   14 hours ago

    >I wonder if we'll see disturbing effects years down the road that stem from lacking a canon:

    If the Millennials had ever read a book other than Harry Potter then maybe GenY wouldn't be in this mess.

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    1. Mike Parsons   13 hours ago

      "They all read a different and AFAICT semi-random assemblage of modern books, and increasingly, not even the books themselves, just excerpts."

      Pretty soon its not going to be Harry Potter and the Hunger games, it will just be an exchange of the growing and accepted collection of public memes.

      Who tf has time to read difficult things like the Chamber of Secrets when they are used to reading nothing longer than a reddit post and responding with handsome squidward or spiderman pointing. That's the new canon

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    2. DesigNate   4 hours ago

      Millennials range from almost the mid forties down to…20 something’s who’ve only ever read Harry Butthole Potter.

      *mutters goddamnit under breath and kicks a rock*

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  44. Incunabulum   14 hours ago

    >Yes

    No. The Boomer's greed is going to ruin the area just to allow them to run off to Cabo and keel over in a year.

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    1. Outlaw Josey Wales   13 hours ago

      Greedy boomers are hoarding all the property they own so we can't afford a house.

      Boomer sells 80 acres to a Developer

      Greedy boomers ruin the area around them then buzz off to Cabo to spend our inheritance on themselves.

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      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   12 hours ago

        “Hoarding” = worked, saved, invested

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    2. tracerv   11 hours ago

      So?

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  45. Keldonric   10 hours ago

    The CES isn’t just a headline generator — it’s a structured survey designed to track employment by industry, and its real strength lies in the granular sector-level detail, not the topline number. That’s what serious analysts and policymakers use when modeling labor trends or spotting structural shifts.
    It’s benchmarked annually against unemployment insurance records to keep it grounded. And while response rates dropped from about 63% to 43% during the pandemic and haven’t fully recovered, BLS adjusts using published imputation methods. The process isn’t hidden — it’s documented and open to critique.
    The real problem is that we treat CES like a political weathervane — reacting to the topline number as if it's a referendum on whoever’s in office. But that’s not what it’s for.
    The monthly numbers aren’t final — they’re revised multiple times as additional voluntary survey responses come in. These aren’t usually “corrections” in the sense of mistakes; they’re updates as the sample improves. While some complain about the size of CES revisions, it’s important to remember that the preliminary numbers come with a known margin of error — currently around ±136,000 jobs at the 90% confidence level. That means the initial estimate is never treated as exact, and most revisions fall within expected statistical bounds. BLS publishes this information transparently, including standard errors and confidence intervals for each release.

    https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cestn.htm

    Professionals don’t use CES in isolation. They pair it with IRS, JOLTS, and ADP to triangulate actual labor conditions. Think of CES like a blood panel: it won’t explain every symptom, but it tells you when something’s off. You don’t throw it out — you use it as part of a bigger diagnostic picture.

    Maybe we should just pass a law prohibiting the BLS from aggregating the topline number. You want data? Fine. You have to read the industry tables. lol

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    1. Kemuel   9 hours ago

      We should sell the BLS to Amazon.

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      1. Keldonric   6 hours ago

        Sure, a private group might run the numbers accurately (Though not likely — they’d face the same structural tradeoffs involved in BLS’s execution of the CES: voluntary surveys, reporting lags, and the balance between timeliness, detail, and precision. The difference? Possibly less transparency, not more.) — but the BLS isn’t just a data shop. It’s a shared focal point, built on trust in neutrality. Among economists and industry analysts, that trust still holds, based on continued institutional reliance — even if lay partisans argue over the headlines. Sell it, and even with good methods, that trust erodes. People peel off, follow other signals, and coordination starts to fail.

        You can try safeguards, nonprofits, or contracts, but the second the sender looks strategic, the signal starts losing power.

        So the real question is: What replaces that shared trust — and who benefits when it’s gone?

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  46. MWAocdoc   5 hours ago

    There is no way for anyone to collect accurate unemployment data across the United States. There are a few ways to collect accurate, if incomplete, employment data. There is no valid reason for the United States Government to collect employment or unemployment data. There is no valid reason for any Government agency to exist that might even be interested in employment or unemployment data in the first place. There is nothing valid that such an agency could DO with that data under the Constitution in the second place! The whole thing amounts to various tyrants trying to out-tyrant each other in the National Tyrant Games.

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