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Palestine

Britain and France Talk Palestinian Statehood

Plus: Ocasio-Cortez told to pay up, Mao revisionism, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 7.30.2025 9:45 AM

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Palestinian residents inspect the area amid the rubble of destroyed buildings following an Israeli airstrike on the Khatib family in the Deir al-Balah refugee camp in the central Gaza Strip on January 15, 2025. | Apaimages/SIPA/Newscom
Palestinian residents inspect the area amid the rubble of destroyed buildings following an Israeli airstrike on the Khatib family in the Deir al-Balah refugee camp in the central Gaza Strip on January 15, 2025. (Apaimages/SIPA/Newscom)

Palestinian statehood? Yesterday, news broke that British Prime Minister Keir Starmer would recognize a Palestinian state if Israel and Hamas did not reach a lasting ceasefire agreement by September. The week prior, French politicians had made similar noises, with France and over a dozen other countries unveiling a joint resolution from the United Nations yesterday that would do much the same.

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The actions of Britain and France reflect souring public approval for both Israel's war in Gaza—which attempts to stamp out the terrorist group Hamas, responsible for perpetrating the October 7, 2023, attack that killed 1,200 and took 250 hostage—and Israel's increasingly aggressive actions in the West Bank.

In the West Bank, Israeli forces have displaced more Palestinians while also expanding plans for settlements, worsening relations.

The joint resolution articulates a vision for two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, "living side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders." The diplomats seem to recognize that, for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Hamas holding any power going forward is a nonstarter, and "said they were determined to develop an international framework for the 'day after' in Gaza that would include reconstruction, the disarmament of Hamas, and its exclusion from governance structures," per AMU.

To go back to basics, statehood criteria were laid out all the way back in 1933. There are four elements that must be satisfied: a permanent population, territorial boundaries that are clearly defined, and a government—presumably the Palestinian Authority that runs the West Bank—that must be able to conduct international affairs. Recognizing Palestinian statehood would require that many countries engage in "a complete revision of bilateral relations with Israel," Ardi Imseis, an associate professor at Queen's University Faculty of Law in Ontario, told The New York Times. "For example," continues the Times, "if an aspect of trade aids or assists Israel in violation of the rights of a Palestinian state, then the recognizing nation would have to cease that exchange."

It does not seem all that likely to happen. But it's significant that so many European nations, including some of the most powerful, are signaling their interest in recognizing statehood; support for Netanyahu domestically has ebbed and flowed, but it's certainly waned internationally over the last few months as Israel's campaign in Gaza has gone on longer and reports of Israeli troops opening fire on Gazans attempting to access humanitarian aid shipments have given Israel Defense Forces (IDF) a real public relations (not to mention moral) problem.

(The IDF's defense for an incident earlier this month: Troops had "identified suspects who approached them during operational activity in the Rafah area" about one kilometer from the aid site "at night-time when it's not active." But these incidents have become disturbingly common, with large death tolls. Israeli forces do correctly offer that Hamas engages in looting that prevents the aid from reaching starving people, but international onlookers and journalists repeatedly describe the attempts to reach aid-distribution sites as chaotic, with IDF gunfire raining down sporadically, not in some sort of targeted manner.)

Israel has, to some degree, responded to international criticism that it's employing deliberate starvation techniques in Gaza, starting aid airdrops this month. An IDF statement was explicit about this, saying the airdrops are "aimed at improving the humanitarian response" and to "refute the false claims of deliberate starvation in the Gaza Strip."

Past ceasefire negotiations have come off the rails due to disputes over hostage releases and the total eradication of Hamas in Gaza. It's not totally clear what will be different as this September deadline approaches, or how progress will be made—and European pressure may not ultimately matter that much at all.


Scenes from New York: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was told to pay up for her infamous 2021 Met Gala "Tax the Rich" outfit. The House Ethics Committee, comprised of both Republicans and Democrats, finally—after years of investigation—ruled that her initial payment of merely $1,000 to the designer who made the dress violated House rules by being well under fair market value.


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  1. Chumby   2 days ago

    Crowdfunded Gay Couple Adopts Boy

    One of the two dads is reportedly a registered sex offender.

    Brandon Keith Mitchell is a Tier 1 sex offender in the state of Pennsylvania, and was arrested in 2016 after attempting to solicit a 16-year-old boy for sexual abuse. The victim in the case was a student at Downingtown West High School, where Mitchell had worked as a chemistry teacher. He was 30 years old at the time.

    https://reduxx.info/gay-man-who-crowdfunded-surrogacy-journey-with-husband-revealed-as-child-sex-offender/

    Unclear if the registered sex offender uses the online name of ChemBrandon. Let’s not go Brandon.

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    1. Mickey Rat   2 days ago

      Why do these sort of things keep happening? Gee, I wonder.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

        Wait, is it Trump? Most things are cause by Trump, right?

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        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

          Only bad things. Good things are caused by Jimmy Carter.

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          1. Chumby   2 days ago

            Did Carter deregulate adoption so that a gay convicted sex offender guy can adopt a son?

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      2. Dillinger   2 days ago

        Pennsylvania ... where Philly girls can stab themselves in the back of the head several times & it's ruled suicide, and where sex offenders can adopt children. everyone sees you, Josh Shapiro.

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    2. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

      Because of course.

      Even if they can be good dads and aren't kiddie fiddlers, the average gay couples household is far too sexually charged to be a good place for child rearing.
      You could count on one finger how many married gay couples aren't swingers with dozens of different partners coming and going.

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      1. Chumby   2 days ago

        If you are bored and yearn for more gish gallop, there are some posts by a sloppy lab procedure chemist:
        https://m.fark.com/comments/6322884/69992420#c69992420

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

          Another website that became a leftist hellhole.

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          1. Chumby   2 days ago

            I enjoyed the part where sloppy chemjeff was chastised by a PhD chemist suggesting he would be fired on the spot had he proposed that in the PhD’s lab.

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            1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

              The burns are just as devastating as they are here. His whole life seems to revolve around trying to pretend to be smart and getting told to fuck off.

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              1. Chumby   2 days ago

                It obviously and definitely isn’t him. It is all of us (minus sarc, Mike Laursen, and the one who got banned for posting cp) as well as all of the commenters at Fark.

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              2. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

                Holy shit that was hilarious to read. Really great to see his freshman debate skills are getting shit on in other forums as well.

                He really is one of those dunning kruger libtards that thinks he has superior reasoning and intellect because he has a fancier piece of paper than a good bit of the population, but mentally he really hasn't matured past about a high school sophomore.

                His arguments are terrible, he uses almost every known debate "trick" that most people grow out of after high school as they are all a sure sign that you are actually losing said debate, and it seems like no matter what crowd he finds himself in, he gets sniffed out right away as being an intellectual lightweight, too big for his britches.

                Damn, what a fun little piece of history. The chem nerds told him to go sit at the little kids table

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            2. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

              I have to admit, I do like the idea of Jeffy take a big swig of HCl from an unlabeled container at his workstation.

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              1. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

                " I do like the idea of Jeffy take a big swig of HCl "

                As a tribute to Jeffy's famed whataboutism, ill add that I am also OK with him drinking an extremely strong base as well.

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                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

                  He can start with a mixture of NaOH.

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        2. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

          When I noticed he was on the internet before with a blog and a twitter page he called me a "stalker".

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          1. Chumby   2 days ago

            I looked him up after seeing that ChemBrandon story posted above.

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        3. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

          I like this regarding him:

          I'm assuming this is a troll post, because none of thsoe points are actually correct at all. Having done RCRA and EPA inspections:

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

            And this:

            chemjeff, i think the people are telling you that you should return to the table when you have adult things to say.

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            1. Chumby   2 days ago

              Once I saw the “beer in a chemistry lab” analogy I figured it was likely him. He had been working up to the “bears in trunks” take.

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              1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

                If you'd like to have a conversation about the degree to which regulations are implemented I wouldn't start off with the assumption everyone else isn't interested in that conversation as a point of contention to get replies -- as you could discuss specific regulatory instances that illustrate your point.

                LOL! This was great. SSDD. Jeffy's strategy has been consistent for at least 15 years.

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        4. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

          Not another doxxing!

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

            It’s not so much doxxing as we don’t know who the fucker is, just where he’s been and gotten his ass curb stomped.

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      2. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

        Its a fucking field of land mines for today's foster kids man.

        I think the reason gay couples tend to have good rates of sticking together, less domestic violence etc, is that going into the thing they are living by a different set of rules. Lots of more 'open' non-traditional marriages that involve weird sex shit and a level of known infidelity/flirting etc that they have a handshake agreement at least going in. But this kind of shit also makes it an absolutely deranged environment to grow up in.

        On the flip side, you have the lesbian couples who shack up and get married in about 5 minutes, but then you have the drama of having 2 chicks, 2 periods, 2 eventual menopauses, 2 hyper emotional partners, and 0 male influence in the house. I think this is going to be the most interesting data set in 10 years from now. We are seeing lots of lesbian couples in our town/schools where they have a kid(s), and suffice it to say I have serious doubts this is going to work out well. If I had to guess it would fall somewhere above single-motherhood just in terms of resources, time, support etc, but below a normal mom/dad situation. But man, their kids are pretty easy to pick out of the bunch, and its not just the way they dress, its 100% behavioral

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        1. Vernon Depner   1 day ago

          We need to bring back orphanages and get rid of the horrific foster care system.

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    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 days ago

      Wood. Chipper.

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 days ago

    Yesterday, news broke that British Prime Minister Keir Starmer would recognize a Palestinian state if Israel and Hamas did not reach a lasting ceasefire agreement by September.

    Britain should just give its island to the Palestinians and hope their new overlords allow them some shred of their former dignity.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

      Shit, Londonistan already belongs to them

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      1. Chumby   2 days ago

        New York about to dip their toes into that pool.

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    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 days ago

      Why would the Pakistanis do that?

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

        Yeah, because nations and tribes in the Islamic world never fight each other.

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    3. Mickey Rat   2 days ago

      Their government is quite content to feed British girls to those overlords. They don't really care about dignity.

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    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

      The joint resolution articulates a vision for two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, "living side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders."

      God, these people are so relentlessly fucking stuck in the post-Cold War managerial pretenses of the last 35 years. Anyone who unironically believes that these two peoples are ever going to live in peace, after all the conflict that's taken place to crowbar Israel out of the region after they won the land by right of conquest, is fucking delusional.

      Israel is seen as a sanctuary state by most western Jews. The west would literally have to carry out another Holocaust to get them to give it up at this point. Two-Tier Kier and Macron are clearly just doing this bit of 90s-style "two-state solution" virtue signaling because they're absolutely fucking terrified of their Muzzie populations going off the chain if they don't.

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    5. damikesc   2 days ago

      Indeed. I would love Netanyahu to ask where in the UK does he plan on housing them.

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      1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

        Starmer in all seriousness would agree to London. Just like how Trudeau hated Canadians, Starmer hates the British.

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        1. damikesc   2 days ago

          Conservatives, if they ever pull their collective heads out of their collective asses, should start shipping all migrants to Quebec. That is the one province that might actually oppose just giving up their "culture" without a fuss.

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          1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

            They already have.

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            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

              Yup. The Quebecois have been doing oppression hierarchy since before oppression hierarchy was cool.

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          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

            See, the Quebecouis only care if the language is English. Anything else is fine, but not English.

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    6. Longtobefree   2 days ago

      Is this the same (not so) Great Britain that declared Mandatory Palestine ungovernable and walked away in1948?
      The same colonial oppressors that Arabs battled with for decades?
      What do they say the boundaries will be for this "state"?
      (asking for a friend)

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  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 days ago

    The actions of Britain and France reflect...

    ...latent antisemitism.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

      They’re trying to pacify their Muslim population. It won’t work.

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      1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

        The Home Office has always been antisemitic and led the charge to import the Muslim hordes into the UK.

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      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

        What are you talking about - appeasement has such a long history of success.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

          Just ask Neville Chamberlain.

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          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

            Hey, you just have to re-define "in our time".

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      3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 days ago

        Islamists are animals

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    2. Social Justice is neither   2 days ago

      I'd say they reflect the final victory of the Third Reich over their European enemies.

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    3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

      Let the spoils of the Ottomans be the problem of those who split it.

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    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

      Don't forget compulsive appeasement and socialist tendencies.

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  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 days ago

    ...and Israel's increasingly aggressive actions in the West Bank.

    Just because the frogs have surrendered to the Islamic horde doesn't mean everyone else must.

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  5. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

    "British Prime Minister Keir Starmer would recognize a Palestinian state if Israel and Hamas did not reach a lasting ceasefire agreement by September."

    Now there's an incentive for Hamas to keep warring if I've ever seen one. How utterly fucking retarded Starmer is.

    "Fight der Juden and we will give you a country".

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

      Starmer would’ve made a good name for a Nazi SS officer.

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      1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

        Starmtroopers.

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        1. Chumby   2 days ago

          Starmgewehr.

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    2. Idaho-Bob   2 days ago

      Nothing like propping up another terrorist state.

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    3. Mickey Rat   2 days ago

      Corbyn still haunts Labour, plus the fact their voter base in many of their marginal districts are Muslin.

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      1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

        A cotton fabric of plain weave?

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        1. Mickey Rat   2 days ago

          Damned typos!

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          1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

            That's okay. The name for the fabric was believed to come from the name of the city of Mosul in Iraq, so you were practically there.

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          2. Chumby   2 days ago

            It left me in stitches.

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  6. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

    Gotta hand it to you, Liz, you're capable of looking up the fatality number from 10/7, unlike Mr. "stealth edit" Boehm.

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    1. VinniUSMC   1 day ago

      Did EB edit that utterly ridiculous "dozens killed on 10/7" statement?

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      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 day ago

        It was edited a short time after it was pointed out in the comments.

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  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 days ago

    The joint resolution articulates a vision for two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, "living side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders."

    WELL, WHY HASN'T ANYONE ELSE THOUGHT OF THAT. Dumbfucks.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 days ago

      And when Hamas, the offical government of an independent state breaks the peace? What then? Historical norms say Isreal can wipe them out and claim their territory as spoils of war.

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      1. Anomalous   2 days ago

        Except the world won't let historical norms apply when Israel is involved.

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    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 days ago

      Yeah! It's about fucking time. Now show me Palestine on the map.

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      1. Vernon Depner   2 days ago

        On older maps it's called "Michigan".

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      2. Chumby   2 days ago

        https://imgur.com/gallery/steven-speilberg-movie-indiana-jones-raiders-of-lost-ark-recognising-palestine-on-world-map-sMM4q

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  8. Medulla Oblongata   2 days ago

    France always did hate the Jews. England and France are majority Muslim now anyway, or fast approaching it, culturally if not ethnically. So no surprises, there.

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    1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

      London is, anyway. The Norman ruling classes who still control it all never cared if their serfs were native Britons and Angles. In fact, they thought replacing them with the population of the former British Raj would give them a less intractable peasantry.

      That's right, they are that dumb.

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      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 days ago

        Now it’s coming out police were involved in the rape gangs too.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

          It’s on the verge of boiling over in Britain. It’s only a matter of time before there’s a spark and Britain suffers their first civil war since the 1640s.

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          1. Chupacabra   2 days ago

            Unfortunately, the rebels don't have any weapons. And the government would happily wipe them out.

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            1. HorseConch   2 days ago

              Didn't they even ban pointed knives because so many enrichers were stabbing Brittainers?

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              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

                Next up is all acids.

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            2. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

              That's alright. Years of stupid spending and disarming their police officers means the government doesn't have any weapons either. The vast majority of police officers do not carry firearms. Firearms are only carried by specially trained officers known as Authorised Firearms Officers (AFOs), who are deployed in specific situations where firearms are deemed necessary.

              Probably back to pitchforks and truncheons.

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              1. Jefferson Paul   2 days ago

                If it came to a full-on, countrywide revolt, the UK would deploy its military to quash it. They do have guns. The question would be if the military would go along with firing on the citizens. I'd guess, yes, they would.

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                1. Chumby   2 days ago

                  They did at the Battle of Bunker Hill.

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                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

                    And it went so well for them.

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                    1. Chumby   2 days ago

                      The patriots had modern weapons.

                2. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

                  136,117 regular forces up against 70 million citizens would be a rough go. Most military men aren't progs either so they would be in trouble.
                  Maybe they could hope that the Califate of London would back them up, but it's more likely some Islamic warlord would just behead them all.

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                  1. Chumby   2 days ago

                    Many of those 70M will side with the state; they are incapable of providing and deciding for themselves.

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                    1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

                      In London? Yes.

                      In the rest of the country not so much. In the last election a much smaller percentage of British voted for Starmer, than the percentage of Americans who voted for Kammy, and a far larger percentage voted for the Conservatives and Reform than the percentage of Americans who voted for Trump.

                  2. Vernon Depner   2 days ago

                    The regular army would only need to kill a handful of rebels to make the rest of them wet their pants and go home.

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                    1. Chupacabra   2 days ago

                      I think you're right.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

                      That worked so well for them in 1775.

                    3. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

                      The regular army would only need to kill a handful of rebels to make the rest of them wet their pants and go home.

                      That certainly worked well enough for the Khmer Rouge.

                      That worked so well for them in 1775.

                      If the Brits had manage to seize their stores and weapons before hand, it probably would have. They don't have to worry about that any more. They would be facing a population armed with knives and frying pans.

                  3. Jefferson Paul   2 days ago

                    Historically, a revolution or revolt doesn't involve every citizen or inhabitant fighting. It's usually a smaller number of very motivated actors. So the UK military wouldn't need to go up against 70 million. Plus, there would be a number of inhabitants that would side with the state.

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

      Remember, France willingly shipped a fair number of their Jews east when under Nazi occupation and Vichy during WWII.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

        For peace and harmony?

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  9. Chumby   2 days ago

    Yesterday, did one of the commenters fall off an aircraft carrier into the Pacific Ocean?

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

      Yes, Jeffy is that fat.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 days ago

        Is that what really caused the tsunami warnings?

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

          Why do you think Jeffy rarely takes a bath or goes to the pool?

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          1. Vernon Depner   2 days ago

            He's banned from the pool for leering at boys.

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  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 days ago

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was told to pay up for her infamous 2021 Met Gala "Tax the Rich" outfit.

    They're violating her First Amendment rights!

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

      I'm just shocked she hasn't been charged for a felony om every submitted paper in NYC for this fraud.

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      1. Chumby   2 days ago

        You’ll need to read about it on LatinX (formerly TwitterX).

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  11. Medulla Oblongata   2 days ago

    "An 8.8-magnitude earthquake struck off Kamchatka, Russia"

    I'll be waiting for the "Caused by climate change" notes on this.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

      Some Indian scientists tried to blame the 2004 tsunami on climate change.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

        Feather or dot? Cuz the Amerind witch doctors pretty much blame everything on Whitey. Not sure about the sub-continent.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

          Dot. I distinctly remember reading about it and laughing that anyone could be that idiotic.

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    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 days ago

      Bailey is on it. Expect to see it in The New Yorker first.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 days ago

        More testing needed!

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      2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 days ago

        In thinking The View today, or MSNBC

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  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 days ago

    ...her initial payment of merely $1,000 to the designer who made the dress violated House rules by being well under fair market value.

    Next they'll make Che pay for his beret.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

      But so dreamy.

      BTW, can you imagine Polis in a beret?

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  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 days ago

    Residents of Hawaii's beach towns evacuated, seeking higher ground.

    When they returned they found that Oprah had already bought their properties and demolished their houses.

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  14. Medulla Oblongata   2 days ago

    The government made student loans not dischargeable shortly after the government became the primary student loan lender. Because they gotta get paid.

    If student loans we made dischargeable, then student loans would cost 2 or 3x or more than they do now to offset the risk of default.

    You can have widely available, low-cost, non-dischargeable loans or very selective, expensive, dischargeable loans. You cannot have low-cost, dischargeable loans. No lender will play that game, not even the government.

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 days ago

      The fix is to turn off the government student loan spigot.

      Without the constant flow of government cash, universities will have to pare down their operations, cut tuition to make it affordable without impossible-to-get expensive loans, etc.

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      1. Randy Sax   2 days ago

        The skools need to dramatically cut their bureaucratic apparatus. No more 1 administrator per 5 students nonsense.

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        1. sarcasmic   2 days ago

          The reason they have all those administrators is because of all the policies they must adopt in order to receive federal money. Cut off the money and they no longer need the admins.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

            Sarc, they have all these administrators because they’re make-work jobs for the grievance studies majors who otherwise aren’t even qualified to be Starbucks baristas.

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            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

              Well, they might be qualified but consider themselves above actual work.

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            2. Medulla Oblongata   2 days ago

              Circa 2021:

              https://x.com/mark_j_perry/status/1467959926567931913?s=10

              Just out today:
              @OhioState
              has a small army of 132 "diversicrats" at an avg. salary of $77,000 and total est. payroll cost of $13.4M, which would cover in-state tuition for 1,120 students

              [list graphic included]

              https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/the-making-of-a-bureaucracy-ohio-states-dei-regime

              Yes, you did read that correctly. Economist Mark J. Perry (coincidentally an emeritus professor at the University of Michigan) released a chart yesterday that lists every DEI bureaucrat at the Ohio State University, ranked by salary, and calculates the total compensation allotted to these employees for the 2021-22 academic year—a grand figure of $13,405,605 [see chart below]. Nearly 30 of the listed employees make more than six figures, and the average salary is around $77,000. The employees work for an array of different initiatives, including such notables as “Diversity and Inclusion,” “Diversity, Inclusion and Outreach,” “Equity and Inclusion,” and “Institutional Equity.” There are around 20 employees who share the title of “Program Coordinator, Diversity and Inclusion,” and another 12 who are “Program Managers” of the same (not to be confused with the Program Manager of Equity and Inclusion).

              Perhaps some of these positions make important contributions to Ohio State’s campus. The ADA Coordinator, for instance, undoubtedly plays a key role in ensuring that students with disabilities have the necessary accommodations to take advantage of educational opportunities. But the vast majority of these positions appear vague and redundant (to put it generously). A quick glance at the OSU Office of Diversity and Inclusion’s website shows the fruit of these employees’ labor, highlighting events such as a lecture on how “caste plagues American society” and a virtual presentation explaining how “sports mascots can perpetuate ‘harmful representations’ of marginalized groups.”

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            3. Zeb   2 days ago

              I don't think your description contradicts his.

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              1. Uilleam   2 days ago

                Correct

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          2. Randy Sax   2 days ago

            They work hand in hand. More admins, for more money, the money is spent on more admins, and the cycle continues.

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            1. Uilleam   2 days ago

              True

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    2. sarcasmic   2 days ago

      An even better idea is to, instead of loans, have students pay universities a percentage of their income for a period of years after graduation. Then colleges would think twice about offering useless majors. Incentive matter.

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      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

        have students pay universities a percentage of their income

        This would be enforced how?

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

          He’s talking a form of wage garnishment. Sarc would be familiar with it based on his divorce, and whatever else he’s done.

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        2. Bubba Jones   2 days ago

          With contracts that cannot be discharged in bankruptcy!

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        3. Vernon Depner   2 days ago

          That's how it's done in England.

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      2. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

        Incentive matter.

        Says the dipshit suggesting to incentivize former students to move in with their parents for a period of years and not report income.

        Sarc is a duffel bag of bad ideas soaked in cheap beer and urine.

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        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

          You'd think a true libertarian like himself could muster up "Government has no role in student loans at all"

          He could probably even dig up a supporting quotation from bastiat dot com.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

            Sarc isn’t a libertarian. He’s a Democrat in libertarian clothing.

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            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

              But he voted for Chase! Or did he?

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              1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 days ago

                No way . Chase is gay, in case you didn’t know.

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              2. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

                Sarc won't vote for a "fag". That's why Chase lost.

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                1. Chumby   2 days ago

                  He lost by a lot. In fact, he came in the rear. While sarc might have abstained from pulling for him, possible that Robby got behind him.

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                  1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

                    What about the Akita vote?

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                    1. Chumby   2 days ago

                      His platform bottomed out with the Akira demographic.

            2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

              And they don't fit.

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            3. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

              "He’s a Democrat in libertarian clothing."

              And that clothing is soiled because he got blind drunk and shit himself again.

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      3. Bubba Jones   2 days ago

        Having student loans dischargeable is good, so long as the government doesn't guarantee them.

        The predictable outcome is that interest rates will go through the roof, as there is no collateral for the loan.

        So parents will have to cosign, and only financially stable families will have access to student loans.

        But the whole point of our student loan system is to make college accessible (not affordable!) to "everyone."

        Maybe economic shenanigans aren't good public policy.

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        1. sarcasmic   2 days ago

          Responding to the only reply that isn't a grey box hiding a moron.

          Yeah, government should stay out of the economy and get back to the laissez-faire principles it was founded on.

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          1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

            Show us the list! I wasn't on it last week.

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          2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 days ago

            Awe, poor sarc.

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          3. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

            Post the list!

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          4. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

            Apologies to Gilbert and Sullivan

            The Sarcado

            ♪ As some day it may happen that some mean girls must be named,
            I've got a little list — I've got a little list!
            Of people on this forum who have personally defamed,
            And they never would be missed — no, never would be missed!
            There's Jesse who fact-checks me when I was just mid-rant,
            The one who said "citation?" when I told him 'bout my aunt,
            ITL said my post was "weird" and "lacked supporting proof" —
            Well he's now on my list and I have labeled him a goof!
            And anyone who dares to claim my logic might have twists —
            They'd none of them be missed — they'd none of them be missed! ♪

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            1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 days ago

              Bravo

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            2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

              +1, LOL!

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            3. Chumby   2 days ago

              Hey Mother’s Lament
              That was an inspired work
              Mean girls forever

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            4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

              Well done, sir!

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  15. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 days ago

    Another great post by Devon Eriksen:

    Their leaders are not imbeciles. But they are constrained to act like it.

    You see, the communist movement painted itself into a corner in the late 20th century.

    As capitalism, in practice, proved that it worked, and communism, in practice, proved that it didn't, the working class began to abandon it.

    The working class, as a whole, has neither high IQ nor high agency, but they do have an abundance of common sense. And when the results became clear, they no longer wanted communism. They wanted capitalism with strong trade unions.

    So the leaders of communism, the journalists, academics, and intellectuals, needed new foot soldiers and meat shields.

    And they had to be a collection of someones who weren't doing well in a free market. So who doesn't do well in a free market?

    Losers.

    Dummies, crazies, addicts, dysgenic freaks, neurotic risk-averse fussbudgets.

    The unfit will always oppose capitalism, because the only environment they can thrive in is an incubator, and communists can always promise to turn society into one.

    But losers, unlike the working class, do not alter course to adapt to what they see in the world. Their speech and behavior are always 100% determined by their own neurotic needs.

    The working class communists of old marched around with signs saying "Land reform now" and "A fair day's wage for a fair day's work". They knew how to say what would help them win.

    Today's loser communists march around with signs saying "Do your tax cuts matter more than queer youth?"

    Because whatever their neurotic pet issue is, they have to wear it on their sleeves at every second.

    And their leaders can only move them by doing the same.

    That's why the communist movement had to capture all media. Had to make a major push to centralize and censor the internet, to create an illusion of consensus.

    Because without that illusion, they are forced into a no-win choice between dying on stupid hills defending positions no normal person can stand, and alienating their loser foot soldiers by moving to the center.

    In fact, frequently what they do is the middle choice — silently fume while their foot soldiers swarm up those hills to die.

    Communist leaders are smart.

    They know perfectly well that communism doesn't work.

    But they don't care because it works for them.

    And they know perfectly well that "Pretty blonde girl = Nazi" is a losing position at best, and a winning position for Nazism at worst.

    But they can't care, because they need to retain control of their brain dead zombies

    https://x.com/Devon_Eriksen_/status/1950544043907142107

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    1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

      If you leave all the Nazi stuff aside it becomes quickly apparent that this is all about jealousy and resentment.

      It's a bunch of Plain Janes trying to tear down the pretty girl who all the boys are paying attention to.

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      1. Randy Sax   2 days ago

        Shit, most people would take plain jane at this point. Raging blue hair, femanazis are the problem.

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        1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

          They are the Plain Janes who dyed and pierced for attention. Rarely does a hot woman pull that shit.

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      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 days ago

        We all like Elle may clampet

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      3. Jefferson Paul   2 days ago

        Most (all?) leftist ideologies come down to jealousy and resentment.

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        1. mad.casual   2 days ago

          It is in the character of very few men to honor without envy a friend who has prospered. - Aeschylus

          Fewer still who don't envy total strangers who prosper.

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    2. Mickey Rat   2 days ago

      "They wanted capitalism with strong trade unions."

      The strength of unionism is currently in the public sector. Where is the evidence of this assertion?

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  16. Randy Sax   2 days ago

    ruled that her initial payment of merely $1,000 to the designer who made the dress violated House rules by being well under fair market value.

    What? A dress costs $15 at the Goodwill. If anything, she overpaid.

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  17. Spiritus Mundi   2 days ago

    US GDP Jumps To 3.0% In Second Quarter, Trouncing Estimates And Reversing Q1 Contraction

    Seems like just yesterday Boehm was declaring Here Are 3 Reasons Why the 'Big Beautiful Bill' Won't Generate 3 Percent Growth. He is wrong so often you can set your watch by it.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

      Boehm has a reluctant and strategic case of terminal TDS.

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    2. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

      Our new Jim Cramer.

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

        Lol. Exactly what I was thinking watching that clip of Cramer losing his shit on the EU deal.

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    3. Chumby   2 days ago

      Perhaps Boehm will now waive the possibly white flag.

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

        Nah. He has too many faithful like qb, sarc, and average white retard.

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      2. Jefferson Paul   2 days ago

        possibly white flag

        Damn, Chumby, that was a nice callback.

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    4. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 days ago

      Bohem also ran with a fake story of starving children.
      Reason rule 2. Bohem is an evil subhuman cancerous liar
      Reason rule 1: the only things that matter are but sex, and food trucks

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    5. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

      Ripples man. Ripples.

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      1. Quicktown Brix   2 days ago

        You're not the only one saying so.

        https://www.reuters.com/world/us/rebound-us-economic-growth-q2-masks-underlying-weakness-2025-07-30/

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      2. Chumby   2 days ago

        Tidal ripples?

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

          The tsunami that wasn't?

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          1. Chumby   2 days ago

            Wave goodbye to the narrative?

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    6. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 days ago

      Boehm‘s a fucking hack.

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  18. Chumby   2 days ago

    WNBA Game Halted after Dildo Tossed onto Court

    https://www.outkick.com/sports/wnba-game-halts-after-neon-green-sex-toy-tossed-court-watch

    Security were able to quickly snatch up the foreign object and play resumed.

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    1. Randy Sax   2 days ago

      Sounds like they were being paid what they were owed.

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    2. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

      That was a dick move.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

        Rather cocky.

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        1. Chumby   2 days ago

          The faux phallus was not whistled for double dribble.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

            Well, the ball play resumed afterward.

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            1. Chumby   2 days ago

              Didn’t see any comments by the players after the game as apparently their lips were sealed.

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            2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 days ago

              The was a spurt of activity.

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    3. Rocinante   2 days ago

      White kind of play resumed?

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    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

      If it was black it could have been hailed as game mvp.

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      1. Chumby   2 days ago

        Even so, it was a dildo of color. They should erect a statue commemorating its first appearance. For this game, it had a quadruple zero but hopefully it can rise to the occasion, start penetrating the defense, and get in the box score.

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    5. Anomalous   2 days ago

      This caused the crowd's enthusiasm to peter out.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

        There was a crowd?

        Harry: [reading statistics on the air] And the Tribe drops this one, 6-to-one to the Rangers. For the Indians, one run on, let's see, one hit...that's all we got? One god-damn hit?
        Monty: [covering microphone] You can't say "god-damn" on the air!
        Harry: Don't worry. Nobody's listening, anyway.

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      2. Chumby   2 days ago

        They knew something was fishy.

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 days ago

          The whole place was abuzz with excitement.

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        2. Randy Sax   2 days ago

          They went clammy at the sight.

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          1. Chumby   2 days ago

            Some consider the WNBA to be bush league.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

              Any of them Brazilian?

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              1. Chumby   2 days ago

                They all got banned after a points shaving scandal.

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    6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

      "Snatch"? Did one of the players grab it?

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      1. Randy Sax   2 days ago

        "Look ma, no hands!"

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    7. Jefferson Paul   2 days ago

      Are we sure it was a dildo and not a "dilator" that fell out of one of the man-ish, "transitioned" players for the WNBA? You can't convince me that some of them aren't really men.

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    8. mad.casual   2 days ago

      Personally, the funniest part of the whole thing is the whitest black guy you know pulls out a handkerchief (at a WNBA game), hands it to the side-shaved-head police officer who picks up the dildo and carries it off the court.

      No women with a purse full of wetnaps. No 'always prepared' police officer with nitrile gloves on their person. No medical staff or anyone else in a stadium full of sex-toy-sharing, hand-in-cooch lesbians and their simps who would say, "Fuck it." and pick up a sex toy. Nope, the black Andy Griffith sitting in the 3rd row has to do everyone watching the game a solid in order to restore play.

      "Just days after a WNBA game stopped because a player lost her weave" you say "Most unserious league to ever exist"? Agreed, no shit.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

        But we do want them to get paid what they're worth, right?

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        1. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

          Honestly if they commit to full WWE kayfabe with Clark forming some sort of NWO/DX faction, standing up with the nation of domination that is the rest of the bull dyke lesbians, complete with dildos flying and awesome crowd signs, I might consider throwing a buck their way

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  19. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

    Past ceasefire negotiations have come off the rails due to disputes over hostage releases and the total eradication of Hamas in Gaza.

    "Disputes over hostage releases."

    Are you fucking serious?

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    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 days ago

      Isreal should go in like Billy madison
      "now your all in big big trouble

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  20. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 days ago

    I will acknowledged the palisitinians as people as soon as the ejyptians, Syrians, and Iranians do the same.

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  21. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

    Most libertarian president ever, yet Reason is stuck with TDS.

    https://x.com/wcdispatch_/status/1950262247068160413?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    EPA To Rescind Obama’s Carbon Decree; The $1 Trillion Green-Reg Machine Faces Oblivion

    EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin unveiled a rule to rescind the 2009 “Endangerment Finding,” the legal linchpin that let bureaucrats impose more than $1 trillion in greenhouse-gas mandates, including Biden’s electric-vehicle edict.

    If finalized, the repeal wipes out every CO₂ tailpipe rule since 2010, scraps start-stop gimmicks, and saves Americans roughly $54 billion a year while restoring full consumer choice in light-, medium-, and heavy-duty vehicles.

    Sixteen years of climate alarmism have kneecapped factories, hollowed out mining towns, and jacked up the price of everything delivered by truck.

    Trump’s EPA just swung the wrecking ball through that green command-and-control palace, handing Main Street its biggest regulatory liberation in a generation.

    Cue the eco-lobby screams—but for once, working families, not Davos, get the win.

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    1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

      TDS is what Koch pays them for.

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    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

      Most libertarian president ever

      Not even fucking close.

      https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-signing-h-r-748-cares-act/

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      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

        Name one more so, TDS-addled slimy pile of lying shit.

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        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

          Calvin Coolidge

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          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

            Yep, you have to go back more than a century, and that's how TDS-addled slimy piles of lying shit justify their lies.
            Fuck off and die, asswipe.

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            1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

              Yes, the word Ever would include all the presidents.

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              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

                Keep picking those cherries, shitstain.

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          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

            Eh, even then it was mainly preserving the post-Wilson status quo. None of the Wilson-era amendements were repealed, for example, until the next Democratic president got in to office, which have had far more negative effects than anything other than, maybe, the so-called Great Society in the last 100 years.

            The last relatively libertarian President was probably Cleveland or Harrison.

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            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

              Hey, there is no reasoning with TDS-addled slimy piles of lying shit.

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            2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

              Those work too, was also think about saying G Washington. T falls somewhere in the middle of all presidents on my libertarian scale. Somethings to like, somethings to hate and others meh.

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          3. mad.casual   2 days ago

            Is "Nuh uh! He's probably the 2nd, maybe 3rd, most libertarian President ever!" the self-beclowning sperge dunk you were going for?

            Because it feels a lot like the bog standard "Deadliest mass casualty event this century."/"Historic, first, black, female, one-legged [placeholder]!"/"You do *not* need a license to buy groceries!" self-own.

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            1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

              ?? No idea what thpse words mean put together.

              I was asked to name a president more libertarian then Trump. I answered Coolidge. I don't think Trump is in the running having signed 5 Cares Act(s) laws.

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              1. mad.casual   2 days ago

                Too many words make brain your brain hurty? I use less:

                You think InsaneTrollLogic seriously arguing Trump libertarian (a claim Trump not make) or mocking retards who pretend Trump Hitler except worse because tariffs?

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        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

          And if being against the Cares Act and the politicians behind it makes me TDS, fine. Better that then having Fauci's balls on my chin like you.

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          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

            "And if being against the Cares Act and the politicians behind it makes me TDS, fine."
            No, it's not your pathetic cherry-picking, it's your lies and your TDS that makes you a slimy pile of TDS-addled lying shit.

            "Better that then having Fauci's balls on my chin like you."
            Cite missing, TDS-addled slimy pile of lying shit. Fuck off and die, shitstain.

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            1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

              Cite: You defending the Cares Act and the politicians who empowered Faucism.

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              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

                Cite missing from your lie, TDS-addled slimy pile of lying shit. Fuck off and die, asswipe.

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    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

      Beat me to it:
      "Trump EPA moves to repeal landmark ‘endangerment finding’ that allows climate regulation"
      https://www.cleveland.com/news/2025/07/trump-epa-moves-to-repeal-landmark-endangerment-finding-that-allows-climate-regulation.html

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    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

      Getting rid of that stupid start-stop feature is necessary, but these don't really go far enough. I don't want a fucking iPad with a vehicle built around it. I want something that's relatively simple to operate and maintain, without a bunch of electronic whizbangs and doo-dads. Something that will last for 300K miles as long as I perform scheduled maintenance. I can't get that in vehicles that started coming out after COVID.

      What really stands out about this change is how deep in the green cult the Obama administration was, because a lot of the bullshit we're dealing with in today's vehicles is a direct result of moronic Democrat regulations on emissions and safety features over the last 15 years.

      Even Toyota's legendary reliability has sunk because of this obnoxious shit, especially with the introduction of turbos in their engines. I can get more quality driving out of a 2010 Corolla than I can out of their new large SUVs and trucks.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 days ago

        Bring back manual crank starters to avoid the hassle of the electric ones.

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

          Yeah, I despise that shit, too, along with the knob transmission shifters. I'm driving a car, not a goddamn spaceship.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

            I don’t mind the push button start, but I’ll be damned if I give up my manual transmission.

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      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

        The best thing about ordering a new F-150 during the pandemic was shortages of certain parts. Ford let me know they could not include the auto stop-start in my truck, AND paid me $50 for my "disappointment".

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

          Yeah, Mazda had to skip putting in the cylinder deactivation and start/stop in some of their CX-5s for that same reason.

          "Oh no, you mean I have to settle for a normally operating vehicle without the emissions gimmickry that fucks up the engine? Well, if I have to, I suppose....."

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      3. mad.casual   2 days ago

        especially with the introduction of turbos in their engines

        Not to defend any mandates but, IMO, turbos (and aluminum/alloy engine blocks) were as inevitable as EVs are. And just like with any other engine tweak *cough*Northstar*cough*, there are turbocharged lemons out there, but there's nothing about a turbocharger that inherently decreases the life of the engine and, conceptually, the opposite (just don't ask me how Audi manages to make several successful I-5 Turbo engines but somehow makes and markets an I-4 that drinks a liter of oil every 1k mi.).

        Also, yeah, dial shifters are about the dumbest shit ever though. Even if I wanted to drive a goddamn spaceship, push button gear selectors are the way to go. Dial shifting is for stoned, Eurotrash hippies who think driving should be like playing a violin or sculpting a clay pot.

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

          there's nothing about a turbocharger that inherently decreases the life of the engine

          The turbo itself, no, I certainly agree with you there. But the problem is that most people don't know how to properly drive a vehicle that has a turbo in it. Most just think it makes the engine "operate more efficiently," and don't understand there's certain responsibilities as an owner that come with having a vehicle with a turbo engine. They find out pretty fucking quick when the turbo takes a shit and they're out thousands of dollars to fix it and any related problems.

          And the turbo is only there because it allows the companies to claim marginal increases on the gas mileage, and thus meet higher CAFE standards. Without the retarded Obama/Biden CAFE bullshit, companies wouldn't be putting them in at this scale.

          Fortunately, the Car Care Nut has a good video on how to drive and maintain a vehicle with a turbo engine. I still would rather ride a bike in a blizzard than own one, though.

          Dial shifting is for stoned, Eurotrash hippies who think driving should be like playing a violin or sculpting a clay pot.

          Finally, someone gets it.

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      4. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

        "I don't want a fucking iPad with a vehicle built around it."

        And if I did, I would *at least* want to have some benefit of buying what is essentially throw-away technology to be discarded rather than maintained over time....that benefit would need to be cost.

        Im not arguing that we fill endless landfills with throw away EVs, but if they are going to give me a vehicle that, as you say, is a shitty throw away computer connected to a battery and 2 axles, at least give me the benefit of charging me a cheap throw away price, so I can treat it like my iphone and when the battery starts dying to quick and the screen protector is in shambles, I buy the next replaceable throw away computer.

        If they want to do cars that way (pretty sure China is), that's at least an argument for the consumer in some way. "Hey, its been a couple years, time to upgrade to the new iCar35 for 15,000-20,000$!". But its not that at all. Partly due to govt subsidy, manufacturers were gouging people like crazy for these POS glorified batteries on wheels, giving you a throw away product, but charging a 2-3x premium price.

        Ya, sorry Ford, instead of shelling out 125k for your Lightning when it was all the hotness, I got a nice and reliable 2500 V8 that can actually be worked on, and a 2 seater with a 6 speed manual gearbox. No downloads, minimal software (some in the truck), and they work.

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  22. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

    In case anybody was worried.

    NWS Grand Forks
    @NWSGrandForks
    There is no threat for tsunami impacts in North Dakota.

    If you are in a coastal area under threat however check https://tsunami.gov for up to date information and with local officials for any evacuation orders

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    1. Chumby   2 days ago

      Am hoping it was some snarky intern that soon will be in these comments.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

        Be fair. It could have been some coastal college intern who never mastered that geography thing.

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        1. Chumby   2 days ago

          I was channeling when that plane had a hard landing and some intern made up the pilot names:

          https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/156215-ntsb-fake-asiana-pilot-names-originated-with-tv-station/

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

      It was in response to this dipshit:

      https://x.com/kingsqueeksiii/status/1950374709612417139?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

      @NWSGrandForks where is the tsunami warning for Fargo, apparently people are searching for this

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    3. Spiritus Mundi   2 days ago

      At least they aren't South Dakota. They are on the look out for meth.

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    4. Dakotian (descendent of Kulaks)   2 days ago

      Wow I was worried there for a minute. The tornado/tsunami sirens did not go off so I thought we might be safe.

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  23. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

    Surge in homelessness under Biden was caused by... illegal immigration.

    https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2025/07/29/bombshell-study-reveals-real-reason-behind-surge-in-homelessness-and-its-not-what-the-dems-tell-you-n2192249

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    1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

      Last year Adams stated that NYC was set to spend $1 billion to house migrants, that estimate is now over $4.2b

      That is an absolutely insane wealth transfer of $45,161.29 per person. Nearly $4K a month. Not per family, per person.

      But this is an easy problem to solve according to Jeffy. Grant citizenship to all non-violent illegal immigrants and the cost for housing migrants will drop to zero.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 days ago

        Lol @ 4.20

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    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

      Yeah, turns out supply and demand doesn't give a shit about "who's going to pick your vegetables and clean your toilets?" Bitch, how about we deal with the fact that importing millions of people leads to rent spikes and the "sprawl" you shitlibs are always complaining about?

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      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

        It's fucking hilarious. Until the 1990s migrants flocked to rural areas where land is cheap and lived in shacks during the season.

        Now they migrate to urban areas where land is expensive and building codes and zoning prevent very low-cost housing options. They drive high rents even higher, while not paying the cost themselves by overcrowding. I linked information last week that 50% of all subsidized housing is occupied by migrants.

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      2. Marshal   2 days ago

        It turns out if you create chaos you can always find something to blame on your enemies.

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    3. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

      Country: had a lot of homeless people already
      Biden: let 8 million more people in

      Democrats: "where did all these unhoused people come from!?!"

      apparently the illegals didnt bring houses across the border with them and housing continues to fall into some sort of supply/demand curve that can be easily understood

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  24. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

    I'm sure this is bad somehow, but fed workers in d.c. are outraged Trump is dispersing federal agencies outside of D.C.

    https://nypost.com/2025/07/28/opinion/how-trump-is-bursting-the-bureaucrats-dc-bubble/

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

      I'm sure this is bad somehow but Zeldin working on undoing Obamas multi trillion follar carbon as pollution rule.

      https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/epa-announce-process-rescind-endangerment-finding

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      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 days ago

        I'm sure the abolish advocates at Reason will write glowing reports about Trump's libertarian accomplishments.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

          I’m sure we’ll see a column from Sullum about it on February 30.

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    2. Zeb   2 days ago

      I love it. Move them all to some medium sized mid-western city.

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    3. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

      DC real estate market being in shambles would be great. DC absolutely fucking sucks, the only reason its so damn expensive is the literal money laundering that has financed all the home buying there

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  25. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

    Sen. Josh Hawley's (R–Mo.) math doesn't really make sense, but also, I have an idea for how we could avoid needing tariff rebate checks:

    Once again prooving my long standing theory: Josh Hawley is a communist.

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    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

      Yeah, it's utterly fucking stupid. The tariffs provide revenue for the government and we have an annual deficit that's pushing $2 trillion. Just put that shit towards reducing the deficit, for fuck's sake.

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      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

        That and wealth transfer payments are evil as shit.

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

          It's such an easy talking point, but this has always been one of the massive blind spots of Trump's--he always seems to completely miss these absolute lay-up policy promotions.

          "Hey, look--employment for citizens has increased and we've reduced the deficit by this much thanks to these tariffs!" must not be as sexy as "Hey, baby, take this $600 and buy yourself something nice." It's just as dumb as the "stimulus" checks that Dubya sent out after 9/11.

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          1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

            but this has always been one of the massive blind spots of Trump's

            The man is vain. His whole schtick about signing the COVID stimulus checks was infuriating when all he was doing was giving MY money back to me and even more of MY money to others who hadn't even paid in. It was bad theater.

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            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

              At least you got some. I was too "rich" (based on pension income and Roth conversions) to qualify for any of the COVID-means-free-money checks.

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          2. Jefferson Paul   2 days ago

            Are you thinking of the stimulus checks after the 2008 crash? I don't recall stimulus checks after 9/11, but I was fairly young at that time, so perhaps I missed it.

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            1. Zeb   2 days ago

              I think it was before 911. "Rebate" checks for the supposed CLinton budget surplus.

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              1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

                Yup. 2001 part of the tax cuts package. 2008 with the bailouts.

                Interest rate cuts and the patriotic duty to spend in the wake of 9-11, IIFC. 9-11 also brought us CISA and their "essential workers" bullshit during Covid.

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                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

                  And the piss of it was, we still had to report it as income.

                  The YouTube algorithm dropped a video from MTV Spring Break 2000 in my page, and all I could think about when watching it was, "This was right before everything went to shit."

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    2. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

      Tariff rebate checks...ffs.

      This reminds me of people that get 1000$ back from the govt on their taxes, have 250k of debt, and use the 1000$ as a downpayment on an ATV...

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      1. VinniUSMC   1 day ago

        What else am I supposed to do with that sweet, sweet $1000 that came from literally nowhere? /s

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  26. Mickey Rat   2 days ago

    "Palestinian statehood? Yesterday, news broke that British Prime Minister Keir Starmer would recognize a Palestinian state if Israel and Hamas did not reach a lasting ceasefire agreement by September. The week prior, French politicians had made similar noises, with France and over a dozen other countries unveiling a joint resolution from the United Nations yesterday that would do much the same."

    Which gives Hamas incentive to end the war, how? There is no downside for Hamas being intransigent and only upside. I can only conclude that Starmer's government supports Hamas or are absolute morons. Best bet is on both.

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    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

      Best bet is on both.

      +1

      Do people like Starmer ever try to picture what a Palestinian state would truly look like in practice? Do they actually believe it would be peaceful (making them morons) or do they know it would be a violent dictatorship (making them evil)?

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  27. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

    Yesterday, news broke that British Prime Minister Keir Starmer would recognize a Palestinian state if Israel and Hamas did not reach a lasting ceasefire agreement by September.

    So reward Hamas. Got it.

    Israel has repeatedly said they would end the war if Hamas would release all hostages.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

      The joint resolution articulates a vision for two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, "living side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders."

      Where Hamas will continue to launch rockets and cross the border to kill jews paid for woth the martyr fund.

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    2. Jefferson Paul   2 days ago

      I don't know why you'd believe that Israel would end the war if Hamas released all of the hostages. Israel has said it's goal is to destroy Hamas and free the hostages. If all of them were released (Hamas should do this, but I don't see it happening), Israel would say they need to continue until every last member of Hamas is dead. I would expect the IDF to redouble their efforts if all the hostages were freed.

      This is not an argument on the morality of the actions involved, just a practical prediction of what would likely happen if this hypothetical came to pass.

      Also, Starmer is a fucking moron (or worse). As others have pointed out, saying we'll give you (Hamas) what you want if you don't agree to a cease fire just gives motivation to Hamas not to agree to a cease fire.

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  28. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

    'Yesterday, news broke that British Prime Minister Keir Starmer would recognize a Palestinian state'

    In some London suburb?

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

      Birmingham.

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      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 days ago

        That shit ain’t gonna fly in Alabama (though there are a lot of Lebanese families there)

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  29. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

    'There are four elements that must be satisfied: a permanent population, territorial boundaries that are clearly defined, and a government'

    And poor counting skills?

    Or is this like that Spanish Inquisition routine?

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    1. Randy Sax   2 days ago

      How do you think they came up with the Hospital generator power estimates?

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    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

      Self sustainability not required. Keep funding the terrorists.

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  30. Larry Fine   2 days ago

    The Palestinians should not be able to terrorize their way into statehood.

    They are incapable of self-governance and unworthy of self-determination. They are a people completely bent on a goal of genocide and ethnic cleansing of Jews. They shouldn't get a state, they shouldn't even get rights to move or act freely until they have proved they can live in modernity with the rest of us.

    No state for Arab terrorists. No government committed to genocide. No Palestine.

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    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

      You're hurting sarcjeff's feelings

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    2. Bubba Jones   2 days ago

      Which modern nation didn't establish itself through genocidal warfare?

      I assume there's an example, but none of them immediately come to mind.

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      1. Randy Sax   2 days ago

        The penguins on that one island?

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 days ago

          This guy gets it.

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        2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 days ago

          Trump hit them with genocidal tariffs.

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          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 days ago

            Have you seen the price of penguin meat lately?

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      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

        You have a very loose definition of "genocide", almost as loose (and wrong) as an antisemite.

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      3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

        The blue people nation from those Cameron movies?

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      4. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

        Which modern nation didn't establish itself through genocidal warfare?"

        Canada.

        Treaties all the way. The only big kerfuffle was the Riel Rebellion which involved Metis and resulted in 50 dead.

        That's why Canadian progressives had to invent a genocide out of residential schools.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

          Twice with Riel. First with the Red River Rebellion, then the Northwest Rebellion. Oddly enough, Riel became a US citizen between the two rebellions.

          The Canadian government was far too kind to Sitting Bull and his group of assholes after they went north of the border. The Sioux were to behave themselves and not raid any more. They opted to continue raiding. Needless to say, the Canadian government was glad to be rid of them when Sitting Bull went south again.

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          1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

            As a Metis and Western Canadian myself I have a lot of sympathy for those rebellions. As the West becomes more estranged from the East, Riel is being rehabilitated.

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    3. sarcasmic   2 days ago

      Why should they even have a right to live? Just wipe them out and take their land.

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      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

        This is a good summation of Hamas' stated position toward Israel.

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      2. Rick James   2 days ago

        Yeah, good question... fuck Israel!

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      3. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

        I knew Sarc wanted to wipe out the Jews. You could see it coming.

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 days ago

          “ Fuck those people “, right sarc?

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        2. Chumby   2 days ago

          He’s after bunkers full of Manischewitz.

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      4. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

        So just “fuck those people”, eh, Sarc?

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      5. Marshal   2 days ago

        All they have to do is stop murdering jews and they can live in peace. It seems reasonable enough to me, most people don't even have to be told to stop murdering their neighbors.

        It takes a strange sort of person to claim that's an unreasonable stipulation.

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    4. Rick James   2 days ago

      The Palestinians should not be able to terrorize their way into statehood.

      They are incapable of self-governance and unworthy of self-determination.

      They already have a state and self-governance.

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      1. Sailor1989   2 days ago

        Except for that whole no real elections bit since Hamas took power in 2006

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 days ago

          Hey it works in Ukraine.

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          1. Chumby   2 days ago

            Zely is reportedly about to be replaced without the expense of holding a public faux election.

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        2. Rick James   2 days ago

          Since when does lack of elections preclude the existence of a state?

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    5. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 days ago

      Brits should do the world a favor and just take it all back.

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      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 days ago

        They're too busy giving their home island away.

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  31. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

    "Should American power retreat fully from that role, there is no liberal successor waiting in the wings."

    Sure there is. That Euro-Canadian order has already demonstrated its two fundamental ethics: appeasement of illiberal invaders and persecution of citizens and groups who defy appeasement.

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  32. TrickyVic (old school)   2 days ago

    Jfree's "proof" of starvation gets an update.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/nyt-amends-gaza-starvation-story-featuring-child-which-had-omitted-his-prior-medical-condition/ar-AA1Jyk4p

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    1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

      It really is antisemitism. There is nothing else that could explain what they are doing.

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  33. TrickyVic (old school)   2 days ago

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/arab-world-tells-hamas-to-lay-down-arms-and-end-rule-of-gaza/ar-AA1Jxdio?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=b9e30252fa524206ad26118d57b46992&ei=35

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    1. Rick James   2 days ago

      This is pretty earth-shattering news, and on MSN as well. People don't realize how much the rest of the Arab world simply doesn't trust Hamas. It's why Egypt and Jordan won't let Palestinian refugees in.

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      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

        Palestinians have been acting like subversive, entitled brats to any country that's taken them in since 1947. The Arabs are the only ones who seem to have finally gotten tired of it in the 2000s after about 60 years of Palestinian chimpouts.

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        1. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

          Its the equivalent of letting an 18 year old, obviously anti-social psychotic, drug/alcohol abusing kid crash on your couch when you have young kids in the house.

          There is a reason no one in the region will touch them with a 10 foot pole.

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    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 days ago

      Wow that's front page shit right there. But I'm sure Reason and their mentors at NYT will find an Orangeman bad angle.

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      1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

        Reason will ignore it. Local story. Not of general interest.

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        1. mad.casual   2 days ago

          Certainly no compare/contrast of the UK and France's "OK, we'll give you statehood if you give up." and Arabs' "Fuck you. Give up." Such a discussion could spill over into how Europe is an empty, self-righteous, intellectually backwater, cultural train wreck compared to the people who share an abstract social construct with Palestinians.

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  34. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

    "...The week prior, French politicians had made similar noises, with France and over a dozen other countries unveiling a joint resolution from the United Nations yesterday that would do much the same..."

    Translated:
    'UN supports unprovoked rape and murder'.
    One more reason to shut down the UN; if it wasn't the worst of FDR's legacies, it is right up there.

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  35. Rick James   2 days ago

    Britain and France Talk Palestinian Statehood
    Plus: Ocasio-Cortez told to pay up, Mao revisionism, and more...

    LOL. Amateurs. The Palestinians don't want a state. Hell even Yassir Arafat said he had "no desire to be the mayor of Jericho".

    Statehood would be the worst political thing they could enter in to right now. Without statehood, the get all the grievance points with no accountability.

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    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 days ago

      Grievance points are the most important thing.

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  36. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

    "There's an extremely simple fix here: make all future student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy."

    Bullshit.
    Destitute student graduates, immediately declares bankruptcy, leaving lender holding the bag.

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    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

      In a more high-trust society, I wouldn't have a problem with student loans being dischargeable. The problem is that the only reason it's a colossal pain in the ass to begin with is because there was a fear in the 1970s that doctors and lawyers were going to start declaring bankruptcy to get out of their obligations. The basic idea behind the policy now is that if you're smart enough to get a college degree (haha, yeah, I know), and are going to make more money during your career as a result of that, you should be able to pay back your loans.

      The real morons are the ones in the last 15 years who had "income-based repayment" that didn't actually pay down any of the principle, on the assumption that Uncle Sugar would wipe out the increased balances after a decade of "public service," or simply as a political payoff like what Zoomers and Millennials were demanding the Biden administration do, and ended up in an even worse spot when the repayment enforcement started up again.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 days ago

        But the abundant financial idiocy exhibited by most college grads, especially teachers, denies the essential claim that these people are smarter than normies, and thus provide more value to society and deserve privilege. Writing off their loans is almost worth it.

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    2. I, Woodchipper   2 days ago

      lenders would be more selective, and loan rates would be higher for worthless degrees than for, say, business administration degrees.

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      1. Marshal   2 days ago

        When student loans became a thing [before this they were just personal loans and what you did with the funds was your business] the first thing schools demanded was that all loans have the same terms. They were deathly afraid loans would be available for engineering, accounting, and computer science but not for grievance studies. Bundling everyone together means the financially worthwhile are subsidizing the wastrels which is a microcosm of how leftists think all of society should be organized.

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    3. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

      Letting blossom 1000s of useless degrees, for the purpose of making it so literally everyone no matter how unintelligent or sometimes illiterate, can make it through and *importantly* [pay for...via uncle Sam] college.

      The degrees only came about because the money was guaranteed to flow to infinity from big daddy govt. The degrees got exponentially more expenside....because colleges knew the kids didnt know what they were signing up for, and that govt would keep sending the checks.

      Simple solution, always has been always will be. Govt 100% out of student loans. Its been an abject failure. Let banks make an assessment of your overall status, and the likelihood of you paying it back. They will develop a system to sort this stuff out in about 5 minutes, complete with algorithms telling them how they can maximize their profit while ensuring they actually get paid back etc. This always should have been a market issue. Taking the market 100% out of the equation is why its so horribly fucked.

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  37. Incunabulum   2 days ago

    >The joint resolution articulates a vision for two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, "living side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders."

    Hamas was elected by an overwhelming majority Liz. Look what they proceeded to do. Why would this be any different.

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    1. sarcasmic   2 days ago

      According to Trump defenders he was elected by an overwhelming majority (49% is a mandate you know). Does that make everyone in the USA responsible for his actions?

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      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

        In a war context, yes. Do you think you would be spared in a war because you didn't vote?

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        1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

          "Do you think"

          Ahhh, I see where you hit your snag with Sarcasmic.

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          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 days ago

            Yeah, I guess I misspelled "drink" oopsie.

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    2. Rick James   2 days ago

      Secure and recognized borders. El Oh El.

      I wonder what Reason's position would be on the creation of an ethno state with "secure and recognized borders".

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    3. I, Woodchipper   2 days ago

      if my neighbors from 50 miles away all came together and invaded my neighborhood and killed and kidnapped and raped a couple thousand people, I'd sign up to go over there and kill them all. It's human nature.

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  38. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

    CNN continues to carry pictures of sick kids portrayed as starving. With healthy kids in the background.

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/24/middleeast/gaza-starvation-israel-analysis-intl?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc&recs_exp=up-next-article-end&tenant_id=related.en

    I suppose once they have completely undermined Israel, they can exert influence over the new Palestinian state by threatening calls for war crimes trials for selectively starving children. JewFree would call that a win-win.

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    1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

      Zero difference between what CNN is doing and what Völkischer Beobachter and Der Stürmer used to do.

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  39. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

    Hey, Liz! Where's the outpouring of Trump/Epstein reports you claimed a week or so ago?
    Caught pushing a TDS lie?

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 days ago

      She's waiting for the NYT update.

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  40. Medulla Oblongata   2 days ago

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2025/07/29/heres-how-many-sex-offenders-ice-has-arrestedin-just-one-city-n2661093

    As the Department of Homeland Security continues to carry out President Donald Trump's mass deportation of criminal illegal aliens in cities across the country, the number of sex offenders being taken off the streets is astonishing.

    In Houston alone, more than 200 child sex offenders have been arrested since January.

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 days ago

      One such offender, found in Minnesota

      https://www.dhs.gov/news/2025/06/18/dhs-announces-arrest-illegal-alien-child-sex-offender-who-dragged-ice-officer

      “Roberto Carlos Munoz-Guatemala is a child sex offender and illegal alien from Mexico who attempted to evade law enforcement and dragged an ICE officer 50 yards down the street with his car. Thankfully, the officer is expected to make a full recovery,” said Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin. “This illegal alien has been committing violent crimes in the U.S. for nearly 15 years. He is a convicted child sex offender who has a rap sheet that includes an arrest for domestic assault and multiple driving offenses. Under Governor Tim Walz, this sicko was living in Minnesota without consequence. Instead of comparing ICE law enforcement to the Gestapo, Governor Walz should be thanking our brave law enforcement for arresting these violent criminals.”

      This illegal alien from Mexico entered the U.S. at an unknown date. His lengthy criminal rap sheet in the U.S. dates back to 2010. Previously he’s been arrested for domestic assault and convicted of sex crimes against an underage teenager. Additionally, he’s been convicted for driving without a valid license, and multiple charges for driving illegally. ICE first lodged a detainer on him in 2013.

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      1. Michael Ejercito   2 days ago

        Wow.

        I was told illegals avoid committing crimes because they fear deportation.

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 days ago

          Native born Americans commit 45 times as many crimes as illegals @hunterbiden

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    2. I, Woodchipper   2 days ago

      it's actually astonishing how many of these illegals are pedos.

      Is it just the way of things out there in mud hut land?

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      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 days ago

        It's called cultural enrichment. Bigot.

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      2. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

        When the borders are open you get all the ones fleeing punishment at home.

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        1. Chumby   2 days ago

          Can’t spell DREAMER without REAMER.

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          1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 days ago

            Only a wise Akita knows which is which.

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      3. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

        Some of it is a very unfortunate consequence of overcrowding. Having extended family members in close proximity to blossoming virgins leads to inappropriate advances. I had a good friend in high school who had been molested by her uncle after school when her parents were at work. It is not uncommon occurrence in immigrant communities and I have noticed there is a disturbing amount of porn dedicated to sex with members of your own household.

        The nuclear family as a unit is traditional for a reason. Keeping your brothers/nephews from close proximity to your daughters is a wise thing.

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 days ago

          In my extended in law family several young virgins have lately come of age. The adult fathers uncles and cousins run prospective boyfriends through a gauntlet to prove their intentions. If the mother signs off they generally get a pass. If in doubt they better be ready to answer some serious questions. Some of these guys aren't up to the challenge. Others get probationary status. The message is clear. Do not fuck with our daughters. Chivalry is not dead.

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      4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 days ago

        Asylum claims. They are attacked for being pedos in their home countries. Here democrats celebrate it.

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      5. Vernon Depner   2 days ago

        Is it just the way of things out there in mud hut land?

        Yes. The affluent Western world is historically unique in its strong prohibition of fucking kids.

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  41. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 days ago

    No one will convince me that what passes for ‘left-wing discourse’ these days is anything more than just a bunch of spoiled, talentless brats who are enormously resentful of the cool kids. Leftism used to be a real political phenomenon. Now, it’s just revenge of the fat kids and nerds.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/07/30/no-sydney-sweeney-is-not-a-genocidal-goose-stepper/

    Fat jeffy and Drunk sarc just got pwned.

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  42. Dillinger   2 days ago

    >>Britain and France Talk Palestinian Statehood

    ya what's their fucking plan?

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    1. Chumby   2 days ago

      Pull up an ottoman and hear what they have to say.

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      1. Dillinger   2 days ago

        Billy left his home with a dollar in his pocket and head full of dreams.

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        1. Chumby   2 days ago

          Their proposal could be a lightning Rod.

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          1. Dillinger   2 days ago

            today's Faces of European antisemitism more frightening than lightning.

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            1. Chumby   2 days ago

              Turkish walnut is a highly desired Wood.

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  43. Dillinger   2 days ago

    >>Sen. Josh Hawley's (R–Mo.) math doesn't really make sense, but also, I have an idea for how we could avoid needing tariff rebate checks:

    is it snark or is it pay down the debt?

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 days ago

      Looks like a vote buying scheme to me. But yes. I'll be cashing the check.

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      1. Dillinger   2 days ago

        they're certainly on the hook for more than a $600 rebate in the long game.

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  44. Dillinger   2 days ago

    >>The actions of Britain and France reflect souring public approval for both Israel's war in Gaza

    just you & Dave & The Influencers.

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  45. Marshal   2 days ago

    The joint resolution articulates a vision for two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, "living side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders.

    So it will be just like today with Palestinians killing every jew they can find while the left defines that as "peace" and criticizes Israel for responding.

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  46. Fist of Etiquette   2 days ago

    Should American power retreat fully from that role, there is no liberal successor waiting in the wings.

    But do not talk about American exceptionalism.

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  47. Longtobefree   2 days ago

    "Israel's war in Gaza"

    Right. It is Hamas' war. They started it, they continue it.
    Stop with the propaganda.

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  48. Fist of Etiquette   2 days ago

    How Wikipedia whitewashes Mao....

    Lol. You do not want to rely on that place for any info that even brushes against the political.

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  49. Longtobefree   2 days ago

    The question of a new Arab state was resolved by the UB in 1948.
    The Arab nations rejected it.
    End of story.

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    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

      "The Arab nations rejected it."

      And started a war with Isreal.

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    2. Longtobefree   2 days ago

      OK, maybe it was the UN - - - - - -

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  50. I, Woodchipper   2 days ago

    How Wikipedia whitewashes Mao

    wikipedia is run by actual, self-proclaimed communists. this is not surprising

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  51. Fist of Etiquette   2 days ago

    ...but also, I have an idea for how we could avoid needing tariff rebate checks...

    BUY AMERICAN, YOU ANTI-UNION BASTARDS.

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  52. Longtobefree   2 days ago

    The republicans were elected to do a certain few things.
    One of them was reduce the deficit and debt.
    Sending out $600 checks for no reason was not part of the deal.
    It seems the republicans hate Trump as much as the democrats.

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  53. I, Woodchipper   2 days ago

    France will recognize palestine as a state.

    So?

    Here's how it goes

    France: you, Palestine, we think you're a separate country now. Look, I wrote it down on this piece of paper.

    Israel: So? -drops more bombs-

    France: You're bombing a sovereign state! stop it.

    Russia: yeah that's crazy man

    US: looks aside whistling aimlessly

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  54. I, Woodchipper   2 days ago

    Sen. Josh Hawley's (R–Mo.) math doesn't really make sense, but also, I have an idea for how we could avoid needing tariff rebate checks:

    Hawley is a bona fide dipshit, but he's still right more often then he's wrong. Let's say 55/45.

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    1. Chumby   2 days ago

      He understands his constituents are dipshits think there is a free lunch. Either way, he wants Missouri to exclaim Show Me the money!

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  55. I, Woodchipper   2 days ago

    Student loans should be not only dischargable, they should be fully privatized.

    Watch how fast the ranks of "intersectional lesbian interpretive dance history" majors disappear.

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  56. Quo Usque Tandem   2 days ago

    RE Wikipedia article on Mao: "...this seems pretty balanced to me, especially from a global perspective. It would be one thing if it didn't prominently mention the millions he killed or his abusive totalitarian reign, but it does. It just also mentions other things that undeniably matter historically!"

    "One death is a tragedy, but a million is a statistic."
    J. Stalin

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  57. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   2 days ago

    Is this why Shrike isn’t around as much anymore?

    https://x.com/roddmartin/status/1950550388756685177?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    Media Matters is on the brink of collapse.

    After two decades of smearing conservatives, the Soros-funded attack dog is under siege—from lawsuits by @elonmusk, FTC probes, & state AG investigations. Why? Donor fraud, defamation, & LYING to destroy Twitter.

    2/ Media Matters, founded by David Brock in 2003, has spent 20 years using dark money, fake “fact checks,” advertiser boycotts, and weaponized media hit jobs to cancel anyone the Democrats hate.

    Now they’re drowning in $15 million in legal bills—and may have to shut down.

    3/ They’ve cut staff. They’ve begged donors. They tried to settle with Musk.

    But the lawsuits won’t stop. Because they're guilty. And now they're caught.

    Their donors—like Soros and Susie Tompkins Buell—are suddenly MIA.

    One ally said: “Maybe it’s time to shut it down.”

    4/ How did this happen?

    In Nov 2023, Media Matters manipulated X’s algorithm to show ads next to Nazi content.

    It caused a massive $75M advertiser exodus from X. And it was all a lie.

    Musk sued for defamation—and then came the avalanche.

    5/ Musk: “We will pursue not just the organization, but anyone funding that organization.”

    Since then:
    — Musk filed suits in multiple countries
    — Trump’s FTC launched an investigation
    — GOP AGs Paxton (TX) and Bailey (MO) opened probes
    — Donors spooked
    — Staff revolted

    6/ Even their law firm bailed.

    Elias Law Group, Dems' go-to legal firm, demanded $4M in unpaid fees.

    Media Matters was stunned. “This is how you treat people who have been clients for 16 years and are friends?”

    But do Democrats really have friends?

    7/ Media Matters tried to settle with Musk.

    X demanded:

    — A full retraction
    — Every penny left in MM’s bank account
    — Shut down permanently

    MM offered a “methodology explainer” and a donation to a charity.

    No deal. Not a chance.

    8/ Now they’re under federal investigation again.

    The FTC is probing whether Media Matters illegally colluded with other “watchdog” groups to blackball X from advertisers.

    Remember: These people weaponized “misinformation” to crush dissent. Now they’re in the crosshairs.

    9/ This is BIG. It means the FTC might go after everyone involved for antitrust: "conspiracy in restraint of trade".

    That's a BIG felony. People could go to prison. And not just at Media Matters: at the giant advertisers too. Like Disney.

    10/ Democrats built a censorship-industrial complex powered by fake nonprofits like Media Matters and GARM. Under Biden they weaponized government to enforce it.

    Now it’s collapsing—under legal scrutiny and financial ruin.

    You can thank Trump, Musk, and all seven swing states.

    11/ Media Matters wanted to cancel YOU.

    They spent two decades silencing speech, smearing patriots, and rigging the media.

    Now, for the first time ever… they’re losing.

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    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 days ago

      Media Matters made the same mistake as Gawker--they went after one of the made men of the old PayPal Mafia, and now they're getting their asses burned for it.

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    2. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

      Blatantly lying about men with infinite money and lawyers may not be as clever of a plan as they first thought.

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  58. Jerry B.   2 days ago

    “Palestinian statehood?”

    So. Hamas wins, I suppose.

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  59. Marshal   2 days ago

    This is a constant suggestion among people who don’t understand that we are the bank. Do this, and you’re the creditor getting stiffed as 1.5 generations declare bankruptcy en masse (only a slight hyperbole)

    1. Pass a "regulation" that institutions can only lend directly to their students, they cannot accept borrowed funds.

    2. Change the state funding contribution from a direct subsidy to vouchers.

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    1. I, Woodchipper   2 days ago

      Just privatize it. It's that simple.

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  60. Uncle Jay   2 days ago

    I want to make sure I got this right.
    Hamas kidnaps, rapes and murders 1,400 Israeli and American citizens, and now France and the UK want to reward them with a Palestinian state.
    Why does the word "insane" just leap to mind?

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    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

      Well, combine the Brits and the French, and that explains a lot.

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      1. Mother's Lament   2 days ago

        All these ideas originated on America's left coast.

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    2. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

      "Hamas kidnaps, rapes and murders 1,400 Israeli and American citizens, "

      and according to them, still holds some of them hostage.

      Was watching someone responding to "the houthi's are terrorists though..." and the lefty on the other side of it basically responded that "well if Israel gave them what they wanted they wouldn't be doing those things"

      By any means necessary runs deep within these peoples brains.

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  61. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 days ago

    "Trump Wins Supreme Court Ruling Over Firing Three Democrats"
    [...]
    "The U.S. Supreme Court has permitted President Donald Trump to dismiss three Democratic commissioners from the Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) without cause, overriding existing regulations that require justification..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-wins-supreme-court-ruling-over-firing-three-democrats/ss-AA1JAjSq?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=c4e62a3c4e7d4a04866be016a42a5e7a&ei=22

    Earlier today, a news feed claimed Trump has lost X (a large number) of court decisions, never mentioning that most have been a result of jurisdiction-shopping and many have been overturned on appeal.

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    1. Chumby   2 days ago

      Methinks Jake made that claim too.

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  62. See.More   2 days ago

    The joint resolution articulates a vision for two democratic states, Israel and Palestine, "living side by side in peace within secure and recognized borders."

    (Emphasis added.)

    Tell me you don't have a single fucking clue about the nature of the conflict without telling you don't have a single fucking clue.

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    1. Mike Parsons   2 days ago

      In fairness, its probably the same way they consider Londoners and Parisians to be currently living alongside Islam "in peace"

      And that is, when there is literally any sign of any unrest involving the islamic world, anywhere else, no matter how small, the whites just act as polite as possible and prey they arent the next stabbing spree victims.

      That kind of peace, you know

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