The Rationale for Deporting Mahmoud Khalil Is Alarmingly Vague and Broad
Marco Rubio’s nebulous invocation of foreign policy interests is bound to have a chilling impact on freedom of speech, which is the whole point.

Mahmoud Khalil, the first target of President Donald Trump's crusade against international students he describes as "terrorist sympathizers," was released from custody on Friday after more than three months of detention. But the Trump administration is still trying to deport Khalil, a legal permanent resident, based on his participation in anti-Israel protests at Columbia University.
The official rationale for expelling Khalil is that he poses a threat to U.S. foreign policy interests. That justification is alarmingly broad and vague, raising due process and free speech concerns that interact with each other.
Khalil, a former Columbia graduate student, was arrested in Manhattan on March 8 and sent to an immigration detention facility in Louisiana. His arrest was based on 8 USC 1227, which authorizes the removal of noncitizens when the secretary of state "has reasonable ground to believe" their "presence or activities" in this country "would have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States."
In a two-page memo invoking Section 1227, Secretary of State Marco Rubio claimed Khalil had participated in "antisemitic protests" that "foster[ed] a hostile environment for Jewish students." Those activities, Rubio averred, "undermine U.S. policy to combat anti-Semitism around the world and in the United States" as well as "efforts to protect Jewish students from harassment and violence in the United States."
Rubio added that "condoning anti-Semitic conduct and disruptive protests in the United States would severely undermine" a "significant foreign policy objective." He nebulously described that objective as "champion[ing] core American interests and American citizens."
Rubio was alluding to Khalil's prominent role in protests at Columbia against Israel's war with Hamas in Gaza. But he did not cite any evidence that Khalil had promoted antisemitism—a charge that Khalil vehemently denies.
Nor did Rubio accuse Khalil of breaking the law. In fact, the memo acknowledged that the case against Khalil was based on "past, current, or expected beliefs, statements, or associations that are otherwise lawful."
Michael Farbiarz, the federal judge in New Jersey who last week ordered Khalil's release while his immigration case is pending, detailed the problems with that memo in a 101-page opinion on May 28. To begin with, Rubio repeatedly cited the purported domestic impact of Khalil's activism, which on its face had nothing to do with foreign policy.
Rubio also conspicuously failed to allege that Khalil's activism had affected U.S. relations with any particular country—the sort of concern that motivated the passage of Section 1227 in 1990 and has driven its enforcement ever since. And while prior uses of the law had focused on conduct in other countries, Farbiarz noted, Khalil "acted solely within the United States."
In short, Farbiarz concluded, "a Section 1227 removal of the kind at issue here is unprecedented—not within the realm of conduct that the statute normally covers, of which an ordinary person would have notice." Yet due process requires that people be given fair notice of which actions violate the government's rules.
The due process problem is compounded by the difficulty of anticipating what sort of conduct might be deemed to undermine the global fight against antisemitism and by the myriad other foreign policy interests that the secretary of state might invoke. Someone who "wishes to steer clear of the possibility of being removed from the United States under Section 1227," Farbiarz observed, will "have to go quiet, or he will have to figure these things out."
Rubio and Trump both have said they expect foreign students to choose the first option. That chilling effect raises obvious problems under the First Amendment, which the Supreme Court has said protects "aliens residing in this country" as well as U.S. citizens.
After Khalil's arrest, the Trump administration claimed he also was subject to removal because he did not provide all the information he should have when he applied for a green card. But that charge seems like a transparent cover for Khalil's real crime: expressing opinions that offend powerful people.
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from the headline, Sullum, like most Reason "editors", still doesn't understand the definition of common words.
As for the article, JS;Dr
It's alarmingly specific and narrow.
Don't show up to our country and advocate for terrorism.
Also don't falsify your documents when doing so.
Bingo. Jacob just loves having evil people here in the US. Don't know why.
Why does reason and jacobin sullum have such a hardon for this dude?
I mean, there are twenty million other recent imports that might be due for deportation, can't they find one that's even the least bit sympathetic? Because this guy's not. He's a piece of shit. Seriously, he's everything everyone hates about academia, the new progressive left, and their army of hateful useful idiots.
academia, the new progressive left, and their army of hateful useful idiots.
That's Reason's peeps.
I'm very much enjoying my subscription to Mother Jones....I mean Reason LOL.
I get it from a certain perspective: If you’re only looking at his case through a free speech lense, then you have to support the Nazi’s marching in Skokie as it were.
The problem is he did a lot more than march and yell at people through a bullhorn.
Even if all he did was march and yell, there's nothing wrong with telling a foreign guest whose speech is hostile and disruptive to leave.
As long as the rules are clear at the outset. No one has a problem with deporting people who break the law. But he has not been found guilty of breaking the law.
For people to come to a site called "Reason" to argue against typical libertarian issues feels like a trolling brigade. The Daily Stormer is available if fascism is your thing.
The rules are clear at the outset and it’s part of the visa agreement you sign when you enter the country.
Just like every other nation on the planet when you visit as a foreigner.
He's not here on a visa, he's a permanent resident with a greencard. And as such, he has full 1st amendment rights
Of course. But he's not being prosecuted for exercising his First Amendment rights. He's being deported for being an acceptable guest.
Also, the only flavor of libertarian that doesn’t believe in national borders are the anarchists. There’s a wide swath of libertarians beyond that.
We may deport foreigners for any reason. There is no necessity that they break any law.
The ICE raids have revealed large numbers of democrats engaging in open insurrection. Many attempting to injure, and even kill ICE agents who are legally executing their duties.
It’s time for mass incarceration of these insurrectionist democrats. And if they resist, or attack federal officers, use lethal force to end their threat. We’ve been far too tolerant of openly treasonous activity.
Let them pay with their lives
Deputy mayor in California was asking cartels to target ICE officers.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/get-your-fking-members-order-la-official-calls-mexican-gangs-mobilize-against-ice-agents
You're going to get this guy killed, Jacob.
more terrible pieces to write if so.
But as one of my grad school teachers would instantly reply "But what do YOU say, Mr Sillum, no hiding behind faked undecidness"
I guess the author still hasn't figured out that people enter the US as a privilege not a right and the government can deny entry to anyone it wants and it can also remove just about anyone for just about any reason. This piece of shit needs to be thrown out.
This piece of shit needs to be thrown out.
Sullum?
I mean, it's a start.
A good start
Perhaps the author believes freedom of movement is a natural right of human beings, and that State structures that deny that right ought to be minimized or dismantled.
"Obey government" isn't reflex for some libertarians.
There is no freedom of movement between countries dumdum. I like the vague terms idiots like you through out though. I'm sure you're celebrating freedom of movement of Russian troops and spies unto Ukraine. Although you've likely supported freedom of movement for Chinese spies to steal IP and tech.
This is especially detrimental when you're importing and providing for people who hate your way of life.
What ignorance some of you show.
Import your enemies who advocate for destroying freedoms was never a libertarian ideal retard
Or the author is too stupid to realize that free movement in and out of our country by foreigners would be national suicide.
Perhaps the author has a passport because no country allows that kind of movement.
It's not so much "obey government" as the reaction here to the vaccine mandate shows. It's more "obey Trump, regardless of his position". It would be scarier if he was competent and if his supporters showed any ability to think critically. As it is, he is relying on morons to execute capricious dictates that oppose each other depending on the news coverage.
I think as a country we may have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.
“Obey Trump” doesn’t mesh well with the Covid vaccine stance.
Oopsies
and it can also remove just about anyone for just about any reason.
1A would like to disagree.
Nope, this has been explained to you before. You were straightened out already. Now you just need a good smack for running your mouth out of turn.
JS;dr
JS;dr
Cannot see why it is vital for us to import useless shits who want to just bitch about America.
Good to see a dude who desperately wanted to see his kid --- managed to get over that nearly instantly and is back to bitching.
Rubio was alluding to Khalil's prominent role in protests at Columbia against Israel's war with Hamas in Gaza.
What part of this is complaining about America ?
The part where he's inciting attacks on Americans because Israel is having a war with Hamas.
That part.
The part where he's harassing American students and keeping them from classes because he thinks they are or support Jews.
That part, too.
The group he was with was also communicating with a known terrorist group planning disruptions and narratives.
He *was*?
Or He *is accused of*?
One way to figure that out... It's called "due process".
What libertarian wants government to have the ability to treat any accusation as though it was a law? What libertarian clamors for the end to due process and innocence and guilt to be determined by one capricious Dear Leader? If it wasn't so dumb it would be sad.
The morons here is your answer.
They aren't jailing him. They want to deport him. They are cancelling his visa, meaning he has zero right to be here.
He's not here on a visa. He has a greencard, which entitles him to due process before it's revoked.
Get your facts right, at least.
The group he was a part of. Again. The rules for visa and green card holders are clear retard.
There is your ignorance. Then there is reality.
Israel's
war with Hamas in Gazacontinued response to Hamas’s terrorist attack and their refusal to release the remaining hostages, if they’re even alive.FTFY.
Now that you know, admit it’s time for him to go. Then apologize for wasting our time with your stupidity.
No it isnt. He lied on his visa and green card applications. He worked with groups connected with terrorists and he lied about it.
Not vague or alarming.
Allegedly. Allegations he contests. Which is why he deserves due process, because you don't know the truth of that any more than I do.
Let's see some proof that holds up in a court of law.
If I told you that the government deported a permanent resident alien for past membership in the Communist Party, would you believe me?
RASMUSSEN : More Than 80% Of Americans Blame Democrats For Political Violence
They are right.
"Rubio added that "condoning anti-Semitic conduct and disruptive protests in the United States would severely undermine" a "significant foreign policy objective." He nebulously described that objective as "champion[ing] core American interests and American citizens."
Rubio was alluding to Khalil's prominent role in protests at Columbia against Israel's war with Hamas in Gaza. But he did not cite any evidence that Khalil had promoted antisemitism—a charge that Khalil vehemently denies."
Condoning something is not the same as promoting something. However, most reasonable people would argue that condoning something bad is problematic too. Even if Khalil was not a antisemitic - and I would bet my entire life's saving that he most certainly is - it is obvious that these hoodlums were condoning (and doing/participating in) way more than a protest against Israel's just war against Hamas.
Yet even if he was not a Jew-hater, which is largely beside the point, he is a hoodlum causing disturbance, violence and unease at a place which should be tolerating none of that. Imagine for a second what would all these pro-Hamas people and their defenders say if people would be "protesting" against the actual genocide and starvation taking place in Sudan/Darfur by casually castigating any and all black people who just happen to be around the campus... locking them up in toilets, shouting at their faces and so on... I imagine that would be a big no-no in the public eye and no one would deny that it is highly problematic too, to say the least.
Some other points:
- Whether he is a Jew-hater or not does not matter. He is of course, but I digress.
- The sanefolk does not condone antisemitism, period. Anyone who condones, promotes or just casually believes in antisemitic tropes can (and should) be laughed at. Not because it's illegal, simply because it's idiotic, uncivilized and wrong.
- As a chief rabble-rouser Khalil did way more than just talking bs. He actively promoted hatred against Jews, Israel and Western civilization in general, and the consequences of all that oftentimes manifested in physical attacks against Jewish students on campus.
- Yet the main reason he is being chased by the authorities is because he lied on his green card application. Perhaps the motivation is stemming from the above, perhaps it is political, but the fact remains that he intentionally mislead federal authorities even before he stepped foot in this country.
- And even if he didn't do any of that, he'd still be subject to the decision of our Secretary of State, as it is his prerogative to decide. He can do this to any non-citizen, with or without any convincing argument to back it up. The same goes for every other country, as each and every one of them can (and regularly) do this to non-citizens.
“Perhaps the motivation is stemming from the above, perhaps it is political, but the fact remains that he intentionally mislead federal authorities even before he stepped foot in this country.”
If he hadn’t engaged in his little attempt at campus kristalnacht, I doubt the State Department would have ever even found out he lied on his application.
You realize that every one of your accusations is nothing but an accusation until it is prosecuted in court. What on Earth is so goddamned awful about requiring someone in America to be found guilty of something before being punished for it?
The INA doesn't require a prosecution in court.
How fucking ignorant are you to the law? One would think to at least learn the basics before opening up their big tongued mouth.
Here's a justification--he's not a citizen, and hates the country that's hosting him, just like most hyper-entitled Palestinians both here and around the world. How he feels about Israel or Jews isn't material in a US citizenship case; it's his open hatred for this country that is the main problem.
Get this subversive, anti-US fuckhead the hell out of our country.
Sooner or later the Supreme Court is going to have to determine if a non-citizen has Constitutional Rights.
They do while they're here. Whether they are allowed to stay here is not a matter of their rights. They have no right to be here after we've told them to leave.
They already have. Immigrants have no right to be in the country or violate the terms of their visas. Scotus has already ruled on these issues many times.
Everything you've said is wrong. I'm not surprised.
SCOTUS precedent is that everyone is entitled to have their rights protected. The 14th amendment promises equal protection to all people, not just citizens. And many of the Bill of Rights are rights that belong to The People, not citizens, which SCOTUS has said means all people, even aliens. (That includes the 1st Amendment, relevant here).
The only rights that are not extended to non-citizens are voting, holding public office, running for office, and serving on juries.
And Khalil isn't here on a visa. He's a permanent resident and has a greencard. So there are no 'terms of his visa', because there is no visa.
Again,what does Sullum think personally.
I want to be merciful and kind but he sounds like really really bad news. The country is divided and violent and tempestous -- do we need to invite folks in to heat it up more.
IF you aren't a citizen and you are taking ANY VIEW that causes discord and fighting and violence OUT YOU SHOULD GO
I want to be merciful and kind
I don't.
That's not what the 1st amendment says. And yes, SCOTUS has held that non-citizens have free speech rights.
I don't really care Margaret. Sullums pearl clutching over a foreign agitator and wannabe terrorist is precious.
"The Rationale for Deporting Mahmoud Khalil Is Alarmingly Vague and Broad"
Sullum's claim to being other than a lying pile of TDS-addled shit is alarmingly vague.
Fuck off and die, Sullum; you embarrass the human race.
It's all fun and games Sullum until an America hater like Mahmoud Khalil shows up in the middle of the night to slit your infidel throat.
>bound to have a chilling impact on freedom of speech
It hasn't shut you up yet.
How about "we don't want this non-citizen piece of shit in our country any more." Is that specific enough?
Are you not aware that non-citizen guests in the US do not have the same first amendment rights as citizens? Are you not aware that the law states the Secretary of State can revoke visas and green cards without having to go through the courts? It seems even you don't comprehend what due process is and what it is used for. The law doesn't state the Secretary of State has to inform a visa/green card holder before revoking those privileges. The law doesn't say the guest gets a court hearing before their visa/green card is revoked. The law states that the Secretary of State can revoke a visa/green card when they, the Secretary of State, has good reason to do so. Guess who's judgment that is? Not a judges, it is the Secretary of State's. I find it wild that you complain about the law and the Secretary of State's judgment yet not the least bit concerned that we have many judges who are blatantly violating the law by substituting their judgment for whose judgements the law states to be relied on.
Non-citizens do have the same 1st amendment rights as citizens. The 14th amendment gives all persons equal protection of the law, which means equal application of the first amendment. (In fact, SCOTUS has held that the 14th amendment applies even to illegal aliens in Plyler v. Doe (1982), and cites Shaughnessv v. Mezei (1953), Wong Wing v. United States (1896), Yick Wo v. Hopkins (1886).)
So you're abjectly wrong on that.
You're also wrong about green cards. The law does say that a court proceeding is required to revoke a green card. And there are only limited cases in which a green card can be revoked, one of which must be demonstrated to that court. The Secretary of State can't just decide to revoke a green card. (And even in the case of visas, guess who decides if the Secretary of State's reason is good? A court.)