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Iran

Get It All Out of the System

Plus: Strait of Hormuz possibly closing, NYC's socialist nonsense hopefully coming to a close, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 6.24.2025 9:34 AM

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Iranian protesters | Sobhan Farajvan / Pacific Press/Sipa USA/Newscom
Iranian protester holds a poster of Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei during the "Rage and Victory" rally held after Friday prayers in Tehran, on the eighth day of Israel's attacks on Iran, on Friday, June 20, 2025. (Sobhan Farajvan / Pacific Press/Sipa USA/Newscom)

Don't worry, guys: Iran's gotten all the "Death to Israel"/"Death to America" out of their system.

Or so President Donald Trump contends.

Iran attacked a U.S. military base in Qatar on Monday; there were no casualties, and sources tell American outlets that both the Americans and the Qataris were notified ahead of time that the attack was coming. "Iran's Supreme National Security Council released a statement earlier claiming the number of missiles fired at Qatar was equal to the number of bombs the U.S. used in its strike on Saturday," per Axios, "signaling a desire to de-escalate." To keep up appearances, Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei threw a flag-burning pic up on X, but if that's all the retaliation they've got planned, it all seems for show.

Trump agrees, and seems to have interpreted Monday's events as a win. The attack on Al Udeid Air Base was, according to Trump, rather "weak," but the good news is "they've gotten it all out of their 'system,' and there will, hopefully, be no further HATE"—emphasis his. Trump then thanked Iran "for giving us early notice, which made it possible for no lives to be lost, and nobody to be injured."

"Perhaps Iran can now proceed to Peace and Harmony in the Region, and I will enthusiastically encourage Israel to do the same," he continued. ("Thank you for your attention to this matter!" he finished.)

pic.twitter.com/XNrSY3KnUY

— JD Vance (@JDVance) June 23, 2025

Shortly after, he started declaring that Israel and Iran agreed to a ceasefire—something both sides slowly embraced, several hours (and strikes) after his initial announcement. Per Trump's plan, which was apparently agreed to by both sides at one point, "Iran is to observe the ceasefire first, starting at 7:30am local time (04:00 GMT), with Israel following suit 12 hours later (16:00 GMT)," per Al Jazeera. But the hours-old ceasefire is not going well at all: Israel's military claims Iran fired another barrage of missiles after the ceasefire had already gone into effect, and that they must retaliate. (There's some evidence coming out that it may have been the result of countries mixing up timezones.)

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Meanwhile, Iran's nuclear program might be back sooner than we think. "We have taken the necessary measures and are currently assessing the areas that were damaged," said Mohammad Eslami, the head of the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran, in a statement carried by Mehr, Iran's semiofficial state-sponsored news agency. "Preparations for recovery had already been anticipated, and our plan is to prevent any interruption in production or services." (Remember, they still claim it's for civilian nuclear energy.)

Doesn't it all seem rather…ridiculous, for a war? The unilateral Trump declarations, the negging of the Persians, and the idea that Khamenei just needed to blow off some steam. Or it's possible Trump's anti-war bona fides really are there, and he's masterminded a legitimately precise strike that's set back Iran's uranium enrichment capabilities by many years, and now a ceasefire that will avoid further bloodshed. Or it's possible that Iran believes itself to be in too deep, so it's legitimately interested in coming to the negotiating table once again. Or it's possible that Iran in the coming hours and days attacks much more than just Al Udeid, that Israel continues to pummel them, that the U.S. gets more deeply embroiled, and that none of these strikes targeted to cripple their nuclear program were effective because Iran was several steps ahead and had already moved the stockpile of enriched uranium. It's just really hard to say right now.

Reason's Jack Nicastro got some incredible quotes from inside the White House Press Pool that kind of perfectly sums up the situation:

"They've been fighting so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing."—President Donald Trump re: Israel violating the ceasefire in response to one middle fired from Iran @reason

— Jack Nicastro (@jack_g_nicastro) June 24, 2025

Possible next moves: It's very possible that, if tensions continue, Iran will shut down the Strait of Hormuz, which would present a massive problem for pretty much all of Asia, as well as the U.S. Navy.

The Strait of Hormuz is a critical passageway for oil and gas, especially that which is bound for Asia. But U.S. Navy ships in the Persian Gulf would also be stuck there if the Strait were closed or mined, and it would be a huge escalation.

"Many of Iran's options are the strategic equivalent of a suicide bombing," Karim Sadjadpour, an Iran expert at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, told The New York Times. "They can do enormous damage to others if they mine the Strait of Hormuz, destroy regional oil facilities and rain a missile barrage against Israel, but they may not survive the blowback."


Scenes from New York: "If you listen to Zohran Mamdani talk about New York, you'd think he was describing a low-tax, low-spending jurisdiction that is failing to meet its citizens' basic needs due to austerity budgeting," writes Matt Yglesias at Slow Boring. "He saw a tweet about a signaling malfunction on the 7 Train, for example, and called it an example of the 'disinvestment' from mass transit that was typical of Andrew Cuomo's time as governor. But the combined top state, federal, and local tax rate in New York City is higher than in Norway and about equal to Sweden. New York State has the highest combined state and local spending per capita of anywhere in the country, and taxes and spending are higher in NYC than the state average."

I cannot express enough how much I want this man to lose. Anyway, today's Election Day if you're a NYC Democrat voting in the primary (as I am, can't you tell?). Godspeed!


QUICK HITS

  • Related: A solid, critical interview of Mamdani. Apparently we're back in the Peak Wokeness era of guilt by association, in which journalists interviewing political candidates they disagree with, and pushing back on their assertions, is somehow "bending the knee."

I think it's rude to over-generalize, but my opinion of a lot of left-wing media is unfortunately well-summarized by these two facts:

1. The Chapo guys refused, repeatedly, to talk to me and Ezra after we were pitched for their show during the abundance tour.

2. Now, Will… pic.twitter.com/a687eqK10e

— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) June 23, 2025

  • "New York is planning to build a nuclear power plant capable of producing enough electricity for as many as 1 million homes in an as-yet-unnamed upstate location, Gov. Kathy Hochul said on Monday," reports The New York Times. It's almost like we should've never listened to Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and shut down Indian Point some four years ago, but we'll take what we can get!
  • Speaking of the Kooky Falconer, America's dietary guidelines might be getting the RFK treatment rather soon. In a lot of ways, this might actually be a huge improvement on the old version: The old guidelines stood at a whopping 149 pages; Kennedy plans to use just four, telling people primarily to "eat whole food" and "eat the food that's good for you," which is honestly quite refreshing: With obesity rates as high as they are, it's not like people are listening to government guidelines much anyway. But, at a minimum, government guidelines could be made clear and concise, and easy for the general public to understand and use. Kennedy is known for issuing broadsides against ultra-processed foods and certain food dyes and added sugars, so expect him to steer the public away from those. And, if the Make America Healthy Again movement can inspire any sort of cultural change that gets people to eat more whole fruit and fewer massive sodas, or to understand just how bad added sugar is for them, then that will be a bit of a win.
  • "A sharply divided US Supreme Court let the Trump administration resume quickly deporting migrants to countries other than their own, lifting a judge's order that gave people 10 days notice and a chance to argue they would be at risk of torture," reports Bloomberg. "Over a scathing dissent from the court's three liberals, the high court granted an emergency request from the administration, which said the order from a Massachusetts federal judge usurped presidential authority and interfered with diplomatic efforts."
  • Incredible scenes:

Where would we be without fact checkers? pic.twitter.com/kLFIhqyfn8

— Drew Holden (@DrewHolden360) June 22, 2025

  • Greenpeace is protesting the Jeff Bezos/Lauren Sanchez wedding in Venice. It's not clear why exactly they and many other progressive activists believe Bezos should not have a nice wedding. Something about how he doesn't pay enough taxes?
  • Inside a new, massive import market: illegal Chinese vapes.
  • For every movement, there is a backlash: Inside SkinnyTok and the death of "body positivity" as a social movement. ("It's not a sin to want to be thin," read SkinnyTok influencer Liv Schmidt's bio.)
  • Something literally no one asked for: "Alex Soros and Huma Abedin Share Their Love Story and Wedding." I'm sure you can guess which publication.
  • I survived Bukeleville, and all I got was a cute but weird family photo in the Bukele chairs:

Was in El Salvador this past week. Airport provides convenient Bukele photo opp as soon as you land. ???? pic.twitter.com/VOnxOXTeV1

— Liz Wolfe (@LizWolfeReason) June 24, 2025

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Make the WNBA great again.

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    1. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

      I have no further comment.

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      1. Randy Sax   12 hours ago

        Name 3 WNBA teams. No cheating.

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        1. Idaho-Bob   12 hours ago

          Caitlin Clark.

          That's all I got

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          1. Dillinger   10 hours ago

            I bought a shirt last summer. I hate h8ters.

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        2. The Angry Hippopotamus   12 hours ago

          New York Liberty
          San Francisco Valkyries
          Indiana Fever

          …excuse me while I go kill myself for knowing this

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          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   12 hours ago

            I can add 3 more =/

            There's a YouTube channel that bets Reese will miss her first shot every game and they live stream watching her games. She went like 11 games in a row with them winning the bet.

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            1. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

              Yeah, but she leads the league in rebounding (mostly her own misses).

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              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

                She trademarked mebounds!

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              2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   10 hours ago

                Have you seen her in a bikini?

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          2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 hours ago

            Chicago fire?

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

              I think that’s soccer.

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            2. TrickyVic (old school)   10 hours ago

              Did they play the San Francisco Earthquakes?

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            3. Jefferson Paul   9 hours ago

              Wait, there's a soccer team named the "Chicago Fire"?

              The Great Chicago Fire destroyed the city. Why would you name your city's team after a disaster? Is there a New Orleans Katrinas team?

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              1. Commenter_XY   9 hours ago

                They need a 'Thunder Thighs' team, heh.

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              2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   9 hours ago

                Yes, there’s an MLS team named the Chicago Fire. Interesting tidbit, one of the stars on the City of Chicago flag represents the 1871 fire.

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        3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

          Is The Amazons one? Cuz the imagery and brand sponsorship are huge!

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          1. Randy Sax   11 hours ago

            Me want snu-snu?

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            1. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

              Death by snu-snu!

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        4. Sometimes a Great Notion   11 hours ago

          Bulls, Pacers, Nets, Lakers, Heat... they pay the bills anyway.

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    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   12 hours ago

      That implies it was great before.

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      1. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

        I'M REFERENCING A CURRENT EVENT OUTSIDE ROUNDUP'S SCOPE.

        I will have no further comment on this matter.

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        1. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

          It's regarding an ESPN game broadcast.

          I have no further comment on this matter.

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          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   12 hours ago

            This was a further comment....

            More disappointing than a WNBA game...

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          2. Dillinger   10 hours ago

            the chick who violated the no broadcasting video without express written consent of major league baseball thing?

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            1. Jefferson Paul   9 hours ago

              "Did you rebroadcast Major League Baseball with only implied, oral consent, instead of expressed, written consent."

              --a line from a classic (90s) episode of the Simpsons.

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   9 hours ago

                Harry: [reading statistics on the air] And the Tribe drops this one, 6-to-one to the Rangers. For the Indians, one run on, let's see, one hit...that's all we got? One god-damn hit?
                Monty: [covering microphone] You can't say "god-damn" on the air!
                Harry: Don't worry. Nobody's listening, anyway.

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              2. Dillinger   5 hours ago

                yes! (both) ^^

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        2. Gaear Grimsrud   11 hours ago

          I have no idea what you're talking about. I will have no further comment on your comments and any further attempts to engage me will be met only with a derisive smirk that you will be unable to see.

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    3. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

      Look, this wasn't an invitation to dump on the WNBA but to dump on a certain ESPN broadcaster for a certain thing she did at a game Sunday night.

      I will have no further comment.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   12 hours ago

        What was the thing?

        I have no further questions.

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        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   11 hours ago

          I second that,

          I've no other motion to second.

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      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   9 hours ago

        WNBA announcer says, “That’s what makes America great.” Apologizes and rephrases after awkward silence from co-announcer who was upset with her word choice. Most WNBA media move possible:

        https://mobile.x.com/ClayTravis/status/1937139902791258221

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        1. Zeb   9 hours ago

          Jesus. Only Nazis want America to be great now?

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        2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   9 hours ago

          Chicks.
          Figures.

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        3. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

          No comment.

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      3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   6 hours ago

        I would thank you for your attention to this matter if I had any idea what this matter is about.

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    4. Spiritus Mundi   11 hours ago

      What is Allepo WNBA?

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    5. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   10 hours ago

      “I see nothing wrong with the new Sophie Cunningham WNBA.”

      https://mobile.x.com/ValliantRenegad/status/1936260647253078150

      Seriously, I know most wnba players are extremely unattractive, been there’s a small minority that are very pleasant to look at.

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      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   9 hours ago

        A big part of the issue is that women's basketball naturally draws diesel dykes. They aren't nice to look at, but that translates into better basketball skills, relatively speaking.

        Players like Cunningham, Cameron Brink, Hailey Van Lith, and Lexie Hull are certainly the exception rather than the rule.

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    6. Roberta   8 hours ago

      The other women's pro basketball league was said to have been much better than this NBA-subsidized one that put it out of business. They played 12-minute quarters, for one thing.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   6 hours ago

        Did they lower the rim and make it bigger?

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Trump agrees, and seems to have interpreted Monday's events as a win.

    They're difficult to be seen as a loss.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   12 hours ago

      Depends on your perspective. Any win for Trump is a loss to many.

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   12 hours ago

      True. Israel gets a ceasefire. Iran is humiliated and has some serious damage to their nuclear program. China is pissed with Iran, and they’re probably the ones who told them to toe the line. The US dropped a few bombs, no casualties, and called it a day without starting another Middle East war. Oh, and did I mention that one of China’s major vulnerabilities was majorly exposed?

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   11 hours ago

        Iran said they severely damaged the US base they completely missed. Iran is spiraling worse than sarc.

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        1. TrickyVic (old school)   11 hours ago

          Iran, the George Santos of the Middle East.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

            Are we sure Iran isn’t the “nukejeff retarded islamist”?

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  3. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    "Thank you for your attention to this matter!" he finished.

    It's the least we could do, Mr. President.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

      "Thank you for your cooperation, Citizen."

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    2. Gaear Grimsrud   11 hours ago

      Classic Trump.

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  4. Randy Sax   12 hours ago

    I cannot express enough how much I want this man to lose. Anyway, today's Election Day if you're a NYC Democrat voting in the primary (as I am, can't you tell?). Godspeed!

    I live in PA and have gotten NYC mayor ads. Ridiculous.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   12 hours ago

      I want him to win so those marxist yankees suffer even more. But first we need a wall to keep them from fleeing their own bad decisisons.

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    2. Idaho-Bob   12 hours ago

      I live in the Idaho panhandle, and I get all of the Washigton (including Seattle) bullshit.

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    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

      Well, since NYC opened voting to non-citizens, who knows where they might be?

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      1. TrickyVic (old school)   11 hours ago

        Didn't happen. NY's highest court struck it down.

        Apparently the NY state Constitution requires you to be a citizen to vote.

        ""“Whatever the future may bring, the New York Constitution as it stands today draws a firm line restricting voting to citizens,” the opinion states.""

        https://nypost.com/2025/03/20/us-news/nyc-law-allowing-noncitizens-to-vote-struck-down-by-ny-court-of-appeals/

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   6 hours ago

          You assume they require ID to vote.

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    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   12 hours ago

      I can't wait until he wins.

      Maybe it will prove to Liz that passively complaining about the long march through institutions isnt the right action to take.

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    5. Jerry B.   12 hours ago

      Try living in the DMV (District of Columbia, Maryland, Virginia) area around D.C. Come election time, you get ads for candidates from all three.

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      1. Randy Sax   11 hours ago

        I lived in NOVA (Vienna) for 6 years. I get it.

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      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   6 hours ago

        Damn. Do none of you people have DVRs?

        Haven’t sat through a commercial in years.

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    6. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

      I cannot express enough how much I want this man to lose.

      Prepare to be disappointed.

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    7. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

      I live near Chicago and see the results of a communist mayor in action up there. Godspeed to NYC and hope they heed Chicago’s lesson.

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      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 hours ago

        Communist harder?

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

          Chicago isn’t doing real communism.

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        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   10 hours ago

          They never tried real communism. The first time it works will be the first time it was ever tried.

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    8. Gaear Grimsrud   11 hours ago

      Dominion vote counter goes whirr.

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  5. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   12 hours ago

    Many of Iran's options are the strategic equivalent of a suicide bombing,

    When all you have is ragheads jihadist, every answer is a suicide bomb

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    1. Ajsloss   10 hours ago

      You'd also think there must be an enormous stockpile of virgins somewhere too.

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   10 hours ago

        What do you think those 12-year-old girls are for, anyway?

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  6. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Per Trump's plan, which was apparently agreed to by both sides at one point, "Iran is to observe the ceasefire first, starting at 7:30am local time (04:00 GMT), with Israel following suit 12 hours later (16:00 GMT)..."

    The president better be careful making plans with "two countries that have been fighting for so long and so hard that they don't know what the fuck they're doing."

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  7. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

    A mostly peaceful cease-fire?

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    1. Social Justice is neither   12 hours ago

      Not enough arson, looting and destruction to be "mostly peaceful".

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  8. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Reason's Jack Nicastro got some incredible quotes from inside the White House Press Pool that kind of perfectly sums up the situation...

    WHO LET tREASON INTO THE PRESS POOL?

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    1. VinniUSMC   12 hours ago

      Trump heard commenting about Reason sending "reporter" Jack Nicastro: "They're not sending their best."

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      1. Social Justice is neither   12 hours ago

        Sadly, he was incorrect.

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      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 hours ago

        At this point who is reasons best? Lenore skanazy?

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

          Probably. She’s fairly consistent and doesn’t venture into TDS-land.

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    2. NealAppeal   2 hours ago

      Was that one of the fig leaves that Trump gave out at the Libertarian Convention?

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  9. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

    'Remember, they still claim it's for civilian nuclear energy.'

    Who knew that the mullahs are worried about global climate warming change?

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   12 hours ago

      The Russians said otherwise.

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    2. Social Justice is neither   12 hours ago

      Look, they're super worried about global cooling because they're just so far ahead of the curve. That's why they're working on producing civilian purpose miniature suns to maintain the climate they're used to.

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  10. Spiritus Mundi   12 hours ago

    So now Reason wants the war to continue?

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

      This war, not that war!

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    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   12 hours ago

      They want the distraction from Ukraine. China from Taiwan. Their plans required a water head Biden and world to let them execute.

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    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 hours ago

      24 hours of Trump-hate isn't nearly enough.

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      1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   8 hours ago

        Hmmm.. had no idea Reason was the new OAN. Thank you for your unbiased observation!

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  11. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    But U.S. Navy ships in the Persian Gulf would also be stuck there if the Strait were closed or mined, and it would be a huge escalation.

    The Navy hasn't bathed itself in glory with respect to Iran, so now could be its redemption arc.

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    1. Longtobefree   12 hours ago

      Just for the record, the US Navy has minesweepers.

      (and can sink every ship in the Iranian navy in five minutes)

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   12 hours ago

        It has happened before. And without congress declaring war. Can you imagine.

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      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   12 hours ago

        Based on their productivity, I would wager that US government agencies have the very best Minesweepers in the world.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   12 hours ago

          Knowing government workers it is set to max windows min number of mines. Probably what sarc also did to think he was smart.

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        2. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

          All operated on Commodore 64s.

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      3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 hours ago

        I don't care what preloaded game they play in their down time. What are the going to do about the straight?

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

          What about the gay?

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

            Who cares about the gay, what about the trans?

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          2. VinniUSMC   11 hours ago

            What about the unhappy?

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  12. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

    'New York State has the highest combined state and local spending per capita of anywhere in the country, and taxes and spending are higher in NYC than the state average.'

    So it must be a Peoples Utopia, with nobody complaining, right?

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

      The streets are paved with gold shit.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

        I thought that was San Francisco.

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  13. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Many of Iran's options are the strategic equivalent of a suicide bombing...

    Unfortunately Iran can't get Hamas to get women or children to shut down the strait for them.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   12 hours ago

      They should put a hospital ship in the middle of it with a half days worth of fuel.

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  14. Spiritus Mundi   12 hours ago

    which would present a massive problem for pretty much all of Asia, as well as the U.S. Navy.

    I doubt the navy would call it a 'problem.' More like Christmas in July.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

      Which Navy? The old school Nimitz Navy, or the new age Harvey Milk Navy?

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

        The Village People Navy.

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        1. TrickyVic (old school)   11 hours ago

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmGuy0jievs&list=RDnmGuy0jievs&start_radio=1

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  15. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Anyway, today's Election Day if you're a NYC Democrat voting in the primary (as I am, can't you tell?).

    What.

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    1. Longtobefree   12 hours ago

      Final confirmation - - - - -

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      1. VinniUSMC   12 hours ago

        Was it in question?

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        1. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

          I THOUGHT LIZ WAS SECRET MAGA.

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          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

            The mask is off!

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          2. VinniUSMC   11 hours ago

            Liz is double super secret MAGA. Probably donated to ActBlue.

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          3. Dillinger   10 hours ago

            Liz is whatever Dave Smith thinks is cool this week

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        2. Zeb   9 hours ago

          Well, if you want to vote for NYC mayor, there isn't much point if you don't register as a Democrat and vote in the primary.

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

      If New York is like Illinois, you can just ask for the primary ballot if your choice when you get to the polls. If Pritzker has a serious primary challenger, then I might do that in 2026 just get try to get rid of the fatfuck.

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      1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

        I would if I thought there was any hope. He's like a planet with a gravitational pull orbited by non sentient Ds.

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      2. Roberta   8 hours ago

        No, NY has election laws that are very strong against parties interfering with each other. If you're a newly registered voter, then you have a free choice of party enrollment. If you've previously enrolled in a party in the state, or independent, and want to vote in a different party's primary, you have to switch a number of weeks before the previous primary day, and so have to sit out one primary or potential primary.

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  16. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Apparently we're back in the Peak Wokeness era of guilt by association...

    It's going to return every election, big or small.

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  17. Randy Sax   12 hours ago

    For every movement, there is a backlash: Inside SkinnyTok and the death of "body positivity" as a social movement. ("It's not a sin to want to be thin," read SkinnyTok influencer Liv Schmidt's bio.)

    The message was accompanied by two photos—a before and an after. The first shows a thin woman who looks to be a size 2 or 4. In the second, the woman’s bones are visible beneath her skin, and her leggings sag.

    Anorexia is more unattractive that being overweight.

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    1. VinniUSMC   12 hours ago

      Anorexia is more unattractive than being overweight, but still more attractive than being obese or morbidly obese.

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      1. Randy Sax   11 hours ago

        I suppose. I associate too skinny with crack addict, malnourished, hair falling out, teeth falling out, etc.

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

          It makes for an uncomfortable ride.

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        2. VinniUSMC   11 hours ago

          Yeah, but crack addict skinny is different than anorexic skinny, IMO. Both are gross in their own way. Crack/meth addict is gross even if it isn't skinny though.

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    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   12 hours ago

      We must affirm she identifies as a skeleton and give her drugs and surgery so she can become her real self.

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      1. VinniUSMC   11 hours ago

        Flaying, the next big thing in fashion.

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        1. Jefferson Paul   9 hours ago

          Roose Bolton: I told you it would be big!

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   9 hours ago

            I prefer his bastard on this.

            “If you think his has a happy ending, you haven’t been paying attention.”

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  18. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

    "New York is planning to build a nuclear power plant capable of producing enough electricity for as many as 1 million homes in an as-yet-unnamed upstate location, Gov. Kathy Hochul said on Monday"

    A million homes somewhere in upstate NY? Are these for the next wave of immigrants?

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    1. Social Justice is neither   12 hours ago

      Will the mandatory DEI hires even know what a computer is?

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    2. Kungpowderfinger   11 hours ago

      Any corporation that invests in nukes in a blue state deserves what they have coming. Good luck with that.

      Maybe NYC’s new Marxist Mayor can help find a clever solution to pay for it.

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      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 hours ago

        Like Newsom has for Moonbeam's choo-choo.

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    3. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

      The Bitcoin miners will suck it all up while a million homes burst into flame from global warming. Unintended consequence.

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  19. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    New York is planning to build a nuclear power plant capable of producing enough electricity for as many as 1 million homes...

    Mr. President, ready your bombers.

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  20. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

    'But, at a minimum, government guidelines could be made clear and concise, and easy for the general public to understand and use.'

    No, at a minimum, government could STFU about what we eat. And stop subsidizing and restricting all food production and distribution.

    Try thinking like a libertarian, mkay?

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    1. Longtobefree   12 hours ago

      Anyway, today's Election Day if you're a NYC Democrat voting in the primary (as I am, can't you tell?).

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    2. Spiritus Mundi   12 hours ago

      But they are progressives, not libertarians.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

        They prefer "liberaltarians". Or in moments of honesty, "libertinians".

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    3. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

      I have no idea what the government guidelines are now and I will remain blissfully unaware of whatever comes next.

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    4. Zeb   9 hours ago

      I don't think it makes you non-libertarian to have opinions on how to do non-libertarian stuff less stupidly. And you can't make much of a career of writing if all of your content just says "government shouldn't be involved in this" over and over.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   6 hours ago

        Fair enough. But don't use the word "minimum" as an argument for more efficient propaganda.

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  21. Medulla Oblongata   12 hours ago

    Scenes from NY:

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/23/us-news/nyc-biz-leaders-left-shaking-over-prospect-of-zohran-mamdani-mayoral-win-it-would-be-disastrous/

    They want none of his business.

    Big Apple business leaders are shaking in their boots that socialist Zohran Mamdani will pull off an upset win in Tuesday’s Democratic mayoral primary and coast into Gracie Mansion, The Post has learned.

    Frightened movers and shakers said that a Mayor Mamdani would be “disastrous” for New York City — with some loath to speak out publicly for fear of ticking off progressives and galvanizing the Queens assemblyman’s lefty, anti-business base.

    “It would be disastrous for the city,” said startup entrepreneur John Borthwick — who recently met the surging candidate during a Partnership For New York City meeting.

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    1. VinniUSMC   12 hours ago

      Too bad New York is full of people who swoon over Luigi.

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    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

      He’s going to win.

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    3. TrickyVic (old school)   11 hours ago

      Zohran is the progressive version of George Santos.

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      1. Jefferson Paul   9 hours ago

        "You Don't Mess with the Zohran"

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        1. VinniUSMC   8 hours ago

          "The Zohran Will Definitely Mess With You"

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  22. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    ...if the Make America Healthy Again movement can inspire any sort of cultural change that gets people to eat more whole fruit and fewer massive sodas, or to understand just how bad added sugar is for them, then that will be a bit of a win.

    What are we, living in Communist China???

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    1. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

      What, are we living in Communist China???

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      1. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

        What are we living in, Communist China???

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        1. VinniUSMC   12 hours ago

          What, are we, living, in, Communist China?

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          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

            What are we living in communist China?

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

              What, are we, living in, Communist, China?

              /comma positions matter

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              1. VinniUSMC   11 hours ago

                I, wasn't sure, whether, I was quoting, Christopher Walken, or... maybe... it... was... Captain... Kirk.

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                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

                  Needs…more…cowbell.

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            2. TrickyVic (old school)   10 hours ago

              We are all just part of a computer simulation at a Bejing college.

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   10 hours ago

                That explains the weirdness and occasional crashing.

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                1. VinniUSMC   8 hours ago

                  If it were a Chinese simulation, there'd be a lot less dark-skinned people. The Chinese hate dark-skinned people more than Democrats, and other dark-skinned people, do.

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    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   12 hours ago

      Depends on the vote in NYC today.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   6 hours ago

        "Today"? How long does it take to re-rank voter rankings through 8 rounds of tally?

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    3. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

      I hope there are no further comments on this issue. Oh shit. looks like I'm too late.

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  23. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

    "A sharply divided US Supreme Court let the Trump administration resume quickly deporting migrants to countries other than their own, lifting a judge's order that gave people 10 days notice and a chance to argue they would be at risk of torture"

    So, wait--are these countries shit holes or not?

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   11 hours ago

      Roberts was hoping he could help the NYC socialist lose it removing voters.

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    2. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

      Does 6/3 qualify as sharply divided?

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  24. Spiritus Mundi   12 hours ago

    A sharply divided US Supreme Court let the Trump administration resume quickly deporting migrants to countries other than their own,

    1. 6-3 is not sharply divided.
    2. So it was legal afterall and you were wrong about this like everything else when justifying your open borders agenda.
    3. Suck it losers.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   11 hours ago

      But this one took 2 weeks to prove reason wrong. That's a win in their book.

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      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 hours ago

        Better then their record on negative 8 minutes last night

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        1. Spiritus Mundi   11 hours ago

          And again this morning.

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    2. TrickyVic (old school)   11 hours ago

      Sharply divide is a dig at the liberal/conservative makeup.

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    3. Zeb   9 hours ago

      Not a comment on the case, but do you think the SC always gets everything right?

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      1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   8 hours ago

        Short Answer: No. Longer Answer: Eye of the beholder.

        We can definitely be certain that the 3 dissenters are clearly the "rogue" justices in this case, since we know that any/all judges that go against Trump are overreaching and wrong.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   7 hours ago

          Poor sarc. Please cite the language in the dissent based on law or constitution.

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  25. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Over a scathing dissent from the court's three liberals...

    They want to speak to the country's manager.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   12 hours ago

      The AAAWFL wing of the court.

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    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   11 hours ago

      The dissent once again ignored the actual law demanding an emotional overwriting of the actual law.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

        This is why you can’t have chicks in charge.

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    3. Social Justice is neither   10 hours ago

      Oh no, the Greta Wing of the Supreme court wrote a scathingly indignant "how dare you"

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  26. Earth-based Human Skeptic   12 hours ago

    'Greenpeace is protesting the Jeff Bezos/Lauren Sanchez wedding in Venice. It's not clear why exactly they and many other progressive activists believe Bezos should not have a nice wedding. Something about how he doesn't pay enough taxes?'

    Why? Perhaps because Greenpeace is a bunch of self-righteous watermelon cunts who hate people who defy their pseudo-green socialist agenda.

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    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   10 hours ago

      JEFF BEZOS EATS BABY WHALES AND PANDAS!!!11!!

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      1. Jefferson Paul   8 hours ago

        No, he eats Pandas Pangolins, which is how Covid started.

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  27. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    ...the order from a Massachusetts federal judge usurped presidential authority and interfered with diplomatic efforts.

    That Massachusetts judge should run for president if he wants his pronouncements to go unchecked!

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  28. Longtobefree   12 hours ago

    I suppose sharply divided is different from closely divided.
    It was as unanimous as it can get whole the deniers of the constitution are still on the bench.
    If the court ruled the sun rises in the east, there would be three dissents.

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    1. Idaho-Bob   11 hours ago

      I'm genuinely surprised the left isn't howling for court packing again.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

        It’s (D)ifferent this time.

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      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 hours ago

        Impeachment first, court packing later. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

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  29. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Where would we be without fact checkers?

    Maybe our B-2 bomber pilots all identify as boys.

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    1. VinniUSMC   12 hours ago

      Maybe they actually were all boys.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

        Only men could stay in a vehicle for 37 hours without stopping to pee.

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 hours ago

          Or ask for directions.

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          1. Longtobefree   11 hours ago

            Technically, a B-2 is continuously asking for directions.

            (OK, so the pilot is not doing the asking)

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            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   6 hours ago

              Is the on-board nav female? What does the "you left the bomb bay door open" reminder voice sound like?

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        2. Longtobefree   11 hours ago

          It has a bathroom (sort of)

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

            Astronaut diapers? I can’t imagine there’s more room in there than that.

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            1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 hours ago

              Pee packs.

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   10 hours ago

                I don’t think that works if they have to drop a deuce.

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                1. TrickyVic (old school)   10 hours ago

                  No.

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                2. TrickyVic (old school)   10 hours ago

                  In space, do you drop the deuce or does the deuce drop you?

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                  1. Its_Not_Inevitable   9 hours ago

                    In space, no one can hear you drop a deuce.

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                    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   7 hours ago

                      Challenge accepted.

      2. Jefferson Paul   8 hours ago

        Maybe they actually were all boys.

        That was also my thought. What does it matter if women are also trained to fly B-2s, if all of the pilots for this mission were male?

        (I don't know if they all were male, but objecting to "boys" because women are "capable" of flying them is a red herring.)

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    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 hours ago

      What's the biologist MOS in the Air Force anyway?

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      1. TrickyVic (old school)   9 hours ago

        Do they have one? Is he still trying to find 50 ft of flight line?

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        1. VinniUSMC   8 hours ago

          It's in the basement next to the grid squares and frequency grease.

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  30. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Greenpeace is protesting the Jeff Bezos/Lauren Sanchez wedding in Venice.

    It's not like he's marrying a whale. She's actually a bit of a smoke show, between you and me. (Just ask Mark Zuckerberg.)

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    1. VinniUSMC   12 hours ago

      She may have been, but she isn't any more. Plastic is as unattractive as anorexic.

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      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 hours ago

        They're both definitely looking their age, but in her defense maybe she's more amiable to get along with than his first wife was. Mackenzie's a bog-standard AWFL so I can't imagine she was all that enjoyable to deal with.

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        1. VinniUSMC   11 hours ago

          Age is fine. Botox and fillers and tucks and lifts, and whatever else she's got going on, are gross. What part of her isn't younger than an elementary school child at this point?

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    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   11 hours ago

      RIP John McAfee

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      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   9 hours ago

        The hero we needed, not the hero we wanted.

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    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 hours ago

      Bezos is the envy of every man. He has the ability to take the women in his life and launce them into space to get a. Few minutes of quiet

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    4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   4 hours ago

      She was hot in Fight Club.

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  31. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Inside a new, massive import market: illegal Chinese vapes.

    Have fun getting your faces blown off, round eye.

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    1. Randy Sax   12 hours ago

      Vaping is for middle skoolers and divorced uncles.

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   11 hours ago

        Real men do lip pillows.

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        1. Randy Sax   11 hours ago

          Pouches for the office, longcut for home. Redman on weekends.

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  32. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Inside SkinnyTok and the death of "body positivity" as a social movement.

    Ozempic is stepping up its influencer game.

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  33. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Alex Soros and Huma Abedin Share Their Love Story and Wedding.

    Hillary's "suicide" guy is about to get another call.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

      Alex Soros didn’t kill himself.

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  34. Fist of Etiquette   12 hours ago

    Was in El Salvador this past week.

    YOU MISSED WHAT'S HIS FACE. He's already back in the U.S. protesting Columbia or some shit.

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    1. Minadin   9 hours ago

      Well, looks like you're off the hook, Fist.

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      1. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

        I better not be.

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  35. Jerry B.   12 hours ago

    Still waiting to read Trump's Declaration of War. anyone have a copy?

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    1. sarcasmic   11 hours ago

      It's printed on your strawman's overalls.

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      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   11 hours ago

        God damn you suck at comedy.

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

          What do you want from an angry old drunk?

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

          Gray box seems to think he’s funny.

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      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

        “Unmuted” long enough to note that you’re a retard and still not funny.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

          Don't know why this made me laugh. But it did. More than any of fists non comments.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   9 hours ago

            He deserves some of his schtick thrown back at him.

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          2. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

            Good thing I have everyone muted but myself.

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      3. sarcasmic   9 hours ago

        Oh look. One of my stalkers updated its handle. So pathetic and desperate for attention. Pathetic. And desperate.

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        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   9 hours ago

          Oh look, a retarded, drunken, sockpuppeting troll who after all these years still doesn't understand the meaning of "strawman" and doesn't want to.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   9 hours ago

            Did the gray box actually say anything of note other than he thinks we’re wanting his attention?

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        2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   9 hours ago

          Poor sarc. Doesn’t know he’s the butt of the joke.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   8 hours ago

            The gray box (as he calls us) is the joke and sadly, doesn’t even know it.

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    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   11 hours ago

      He published it last night on White House org. At least the letter to Congress.

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    3. Longtobefree   11 hours ago

      How silly.
      Congress declares war, not the president.
      (of course, they haven't done that since 1941)

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  36. sarcasmic   11 hours ago

    Bad news for nervous fliers! Severe turbulence is set to get even WORSE thanks to climate change, scientists say - as they discover a link between 'freak wind gusts' and global warming

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14841475/Severe-turbulence-WORSE-climate-change.html

    Oh yeah? Well I blame Democrats. They're the ones making turbulence worse.

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    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   11 hours ago

      Not shocked you also believe those always proven wrong models.

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    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   11 hours ago

      There’s just no way that improved technology would solve this problem if it occurs like it did before.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

        Gray box invest in massive quantities of straw again?

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        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   9 hours ago

          Always.

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      2. Idaho-Bob   10 hours ago

        Just not Boeing tech.

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    3. Spiritus Mundi   11 hours ago

      Is this before or after the ice caps melt away?

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      1. sarcasmic   10 hours ago

        I dunno, but when they do I'll be sure to blame Democrats.

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        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

          Leave the democrats alone said a crying sarc.

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        2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   9 hours ago

          "QUIT PICKING ON THE DEMOCRATS!!!!!"

          Just a reminder that Sarckles is totally not a Democrat. Just ask him, he swears it.

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          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   9 hours ago

            Always brings fresh ideas™ to the discussion.

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        3. Bertram Guilfoyle   5 hours ago

          Damn, you're dense.

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      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   10 hours ago

        Gray box said what?

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  37. Mickey Rat   11 hours ago

    So NYC avoiding the socialist will likely set up the restoration of the disgraced scion of the House of Cuomo, with his unique mixture of crass corruption, incompetence and sanctimony.

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    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 hours ago

      Imagine having to choose between Newsom and Harris!

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   11 hours ago

      So basically NYC has a choice between Brandon Johnson and Richard M. Daley Lite.

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    3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   3 hours ago

      And awkward booby touching.

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  38. Use the Schwartz   11 hours ago

    Q: Will NYC punch themselves in the dick?
    A: Yes.

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    1. VinniUSMC   10 hours ago

      Well, they're only a shit river away from being New Jersey, the asshole(s) of the US.

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    2. Mickey Rat   8 hours ago

      To be fair, they seem to enjoy doing so.

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  39. Ajsloss   10 hours ago

    Anyone interested in the strait of hormuz can look here:
    https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/centerx:58.2/centery:24.7/zoom:6

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    1. Stupid Government Tricks   10 hours ago

      Sal Mercogliano, What's Going on With Shipping?, says Iran will probably not close the Strait, for many reasons, among them they need to get their own shipping through the Strait, but also that unlike the 1980s, when most oil was going to Europe and the US, the majority of oil now goes to China and Asia.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTe5r2Z2PGk

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      1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

        I don't see China letting this happen.

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      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   10 hours ago

        My best guess is that China made Iran an offer they couldn’t refuse regarding closing the Straits of Hormuz. The ChiComs were apparently pretty pissed over the prospect of strait closure.

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        1. Dillinger   10 hours ago

          Zhīma kāimén!

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        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

          Continuing to buy Iranian oil as they have been for decades?

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   9 hours ago

            More than likely.

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    2. VinniUSMC   10 hours ago

      That's a lot of boats. Neat.

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  40. Dillinger   10 hours ago

    >>Strait of Hormuz possibly closing

    how they gonna back it up?

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  41. Dillinger   10 hours ago

    >>Doesn't it all seem rather…ridiculous, for a war?

    what's ridiculous is Reason's takes. ludicrous speed all week.

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

      First US war in history where nobody got killed. Maybe it wasn't a war after all.

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      1. Ajsloss   10 hours ago

        There were deaths in the tariff war?

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   10 hours ago

          Billions, if you ask Sarc and the Democrats.

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        2. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

          The current lack of fatalities and inflation is a transitory phase. The devastation is coming and it won't be pretty.

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          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   9 hours ago

            Ripples man. Ripples.

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          2. Stupid Government Tricks   8 hours ago

            No one claims tariffs cause inflation. It is strictly a money supply problem. It's not even a good strawman any more, except for the gullible like you.

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      2. Dillinger   10 hours ago

        I'm no CNN middle east correspondent but it seems like every other time since Arafat was driving a tank on ABC if one bomb falls in an Islamist nation there's 10000 people in the streets & at least 37 bloody children on stretchers within minutes

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Muting Sarc like he mutes us)   10 hours ago

          Pallywood is a hell of an industry in Gaza and the West Bank.

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  42. Dillinger   10 hours ago

    >>The Strait of Hormuz is a critical passageway for oil and gas

    for China. not us ...

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  43. Dillinger   10 hours ago

    >>A sharply divided US Supreme Court let the Trump administration resume quickly deporting migrants to countries other than their own

    considering any given case everyone except Alito & Thomas might side with the Junior League any decision permitting the T Admin anything is a small miracle

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    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   3 hours ago

      “…..countries other than their own.”

      Well, I think we need to see some land acknowledgments to sort all that out.

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  44. Dillinger   10 hours ago

    >>I cannot express enough how much I want this man to lose.

    ya I think since you guys lost your crowd though everyone else wants him to win hard

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 hours ago

      Is there a Republican primary? Does it even matter?

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      1. Dillinger   9 hours ago

        I'm quietly running unopposed ... from Dallas

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        1. Gaear Grimsrud   9 hours ago

          Send me some literature. I'll use Leticia James' Virginia address to establish NYC residency.

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          1. Dillinger   8 hours ago

            sheltered liability is the only good liability. it may fly in NYC

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  45. Dillinger   10 hours ago

    >>"Alex Soros and Huma Abedin Share Their Love Story and Wedding."

    that dude needs Soros money to make anyone believe he likes chicks ... and that chick needs considerable help to make anyone believe she's alive ... someone feed her please

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  46. I, Woodchipper   10 hours ago

    But, at a minimum, government guidelines could be made clear and concise, and easy for the general public to understand and use.

    "dietary guidelines" is very high on the list of things govt shouldnt be doing at all.

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  47. Medulla Oblongata   9 hours ago

    La trying to give NYC a run for the money...

    https://www.wsj.com/real-estate/commercial/los-angeles-hotel-minimum-wage-a1fa6871?mod=hp_major_pos1

    $30 Minimum Wage Has L.A. Hotel Owners in Revolt
    Industry seeks to suspend city ordinance requiring what union leaders call nation’s highest minimum wage

    Hotel owners are in open revolt against Los Angeles’s new $30-an-hour minimum wage, the latest blow to one of the country’s poorest-performing lodging markets.

    This was supposed to be a great time to own a hotel in L.A. The area will soon be at the center of the globe’s premier sporting events, first as a host city for eight World Cup soccer games next year, and then the Super Bowl the following year.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   9 hours ago

      Too bad everyone will just watch on TV.

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  48. I, Woodchipper   8 hours ago

    . It's not clear why exactly they and many other progressive activists believe Bezos should not have a nice wedding. Something about how he doesn't pay enough taxes?

    He can NEVER pay enough taxes. There is literally no amount that will sate the endless hunger of the bolsheviks.

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  49. Marshal   5 hours ago

    "If you listen to Zohran Mamdani talk about New York, you'd think he was describing a low-tax, low-spending jurisdiction that is failing to meet its citizens' basic needs due to austerity budgeting," writes Matt Yglesias

    The interesting thing about this complaint is that a couple of decades ago there was a young group of bloggers referred to as the Juicebox Mafia that made similar complaints in this same situation. They ignored all previous economic history and data to claim we just needed to double down and spend more, always more. Their ignorance of economic reality led to Obamacare which has failed to achieve any of the 12 stated goals for the program, only one of which they even partially achieved. Obamacare is now considered "a good first step" by the left, demonstrating they plan to follow even their failures with more of the same. You may know the most prominent two of these bloggers, Ezra Klein and Matt Yglesias.

    Their "Abundance" initiative is essentially an admission libertarians were right and the Juiceboxers were wrong all along. Prices aren't high because capitalism is evil, prices are high because left wingers design policy that makes things more expensive largely because they don't consider cost as part of their policy design because all costs can come out of "profit". But the Juiceboxers can't admit this because their failed ideas made them rich. So instead of admitting libertarians were right they're trying to find a couple of regulations they can pretend are the specific problems and claim to find a "third way". This allows them to frame themselves as the more rational left wingers and keep their followings at the miniscule cost of still being completely unable to effectively govern anything.

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