MAGA Bros Against World War III
Independent media is where regime-change apologia goes to die.

One of the criticisms of alternative media is that podcasters, social media personalities, and influencers who describe themselves as independent-minded often fail to ask tough questions of their guests or push back when greater scrutiny is warranted. Joe Rogan is frequently cited as an example of this: He platforms provocative guests like Darryl Cooper and Ian Carroll, and because the format is friendly and informal, he fails to press them when they make dubious or even outrageous claims. That was the thrust of the criticism made by British journalist Douglas Murray, who used his own appearance on Rogan's show as an opportunity to attack the host's failure to properly interrogate people Murray considers to be conspiracy theorists.
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In contrast, mainstream media is characterized by hostile interviews: For example, see every single instance of CNN, CBS, or ABC interviewing a Republican political figure—though to be fair, interviews with Democrats are often contentious as well. Politicians don't really want to be asked tough questions, but journalism is supposed to be adversarial, and the public is best served by interview formats that provoke discomfort. If the traditional mainstream format is entirely replaced by podcasts where people get to say whatever they want and face no pushback whatsoever, it should be obvious that 1) this would be worse for the country, and 2) the politicians would absolutely prefer it.
Yet the current debate over whether the U.S. military should become more involved in Israel's war against Iran is a powerful counterexample and showcases the unique ability of the podcast universe to—in some important cases—cut through the mainstream media's reflexive deference to hawkish national security experts and get to the fundamental question: Do the American people really want another regime-change war in the Middle East?
This dynamic was well-illustrated by Tucker Carlson's recent interview with Sen. Ted Cruz (R–Texas) on X. The pair of conservative giants engaged in a two-hour exchange on the subject of Iran; it was feisty and intermittently unpleasant—for them at least, it was madly entertaining for viewers—and gave Carlson ample opportunity to expose the hollowness of Cruz's position, which seemed to be that regime-change in Iran would somehow work out better than regime-change in Iraq, Libya, or Syria.
In one particularly revealing moment, Cruz accused Carlson and other critics of the war effort of being "obsessed" with Israel and even insinuated this was due to some vague antisemitic undercurrent. This accusation was remarkable because just moments earlier, Cruz had admitted his own reason for running for office was to be the most pro-Israel U.S. senator in history. Moments later, he confessed that his unwavering support for Israel was due to a biblical passage that emphasizes those who side with Israel will be "blessed"; in response, Carlson sardonically mused on whether the Bible's authors had a specific Israeli government in mind.
It is not anti-Jewish or anti-Israel for the U.S. to think very carefully about whether supporting and aiding military strikes against Iran is in the best interests of Americans. Israel uses American weapons to launch its attacks, and it relies on American technology to protect its own citizens from Iranian counterattacks. Israel has the right to defend itself against attacks from hostile foreign powers and terrorists, but it does not have the right to single-mindedly drag the U.S. into yet another boondoggle in the Middle East, particularly without congressional authorization.
I just introduced an Iran War Powers Resolution with @RepRoKhanna to prohibit U.S. involvement in the Israel-Iran war.
This is not our war. Even if it were, Congress must decide such matters according to our Constitution. pic.twitter.com/LuIl59lt45
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) June 17, 2025
Unfortunately, this is exactly what's happening: In the midst of these attacks, President Donald Trump's negotiations with the Iranians have faltered, and he now seems poised to take the very action he swore off during his campaign. So much for that "no new wars" promise.
Just Asking Questions
Carlson, a Fox News host turned independent media giant, is hardly alone among podcasters in evincing skepticism about doing Israel's bidding in the Middle East. Joe Rogan is perturbed. Theo Von has expressed horror over Israel's campaign in Gaza. Dave Smith says he regrets voting for Trump and even thinks he should be impeached for breaking his promise not to start new wars. And those are just the plausibly right-adjacent podcasters; left-leaning ones, like Cenk Uygur, Mehdi Hasan, and Glenn Greenwald are also speaking up.
Now consider the mainstream media. Admittedly, I have not watched every single second of commentary on CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, or Fox News this past week, nor have I read every column in The New York Times and The Washington Post. Thus if the following impression is false, I stand ready to apologize. But it certainly does not appear to be the case that legacy media commentary is intensely critical of what's about to take place in the Middle East. This is not particularly surprising—in the run-up to the Iraq War, mainstream media institutions were supportive on balance and frequently provided important justifications for the Bush administration. The New York Times was a particularly egregious offender.
It's a good thing, then, that this time around, there is a healthy alternative media environment where skepticism of military interventionism can flourish. If we were constrained by the narrow range of permissible views within mainstream discourse, it would be much more likely that the voices of regime-change cheerleaders would drown out more sober-minded noninterventionists.
Let's hope Trump is listening to the latter. While it's doubtless true that the MAGA base will back the president no matter what, he should keep in mind that he owes his reelection at least in part to his successful outreach on these very platforms: Joe Rogan, Theo Von, etc. These personalities listen to their viewers, and their viewers—the young males with whom Trump overperformed in the 2024 election—do not want another war.
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Worth Watching
Last weekend, I was at FreedomFest in Palm Springs, California. It was a spectacular time this year: Ross Ulbricht delivered a moving speech on the mistreatment of prisoners.
On my return flight, I watched Joker: Folie à Deux, the musical sequel to the Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie. I liked, but did not love, the original. It's one of those cases where the trailer, while very good, was basically the whole movie. (Honestly, the 25-second teaser trailer is even better!) I appreciated what director Todd Phillips was trying to accomplish, and I quite liked the visuals, settings, and certain adaptations of the Batman story. It just didn't add up to all that much. It seemed like the film wanted desperately to say something profound or even political—but then it just ends.
The sequel was not very good at all and comes across as completely, almost aggressively unnecessary, like they twisted Phillips' arm to force him to do it, and he made this in order to have his revenge. I did enjoy Lady Gaga's portrayal of Harley Quinn. The guy who played Harvey Dent was pretty good, too; I kept waiting for him to lose half of his face, which eventually did happen as a result of just about the most groan-inducing deus ex machina imaginable.
Anyway, I'm calling for a total shutdown on cinematic portrayals of Joker and Harley Quinn for the immediate future. We've seen a lot of these characters lately. Enough is enough.
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This is at least WW6 based on other world war reason articles.
Reason will work round the clock to protect the Iranian regime and ensure they get nuclear weapons.
In contrast, mainstream media is characterized by hostile interviews: For example, see every single instance of CNN, CBS, or ABC interviewing a Republican political figure—though to be fair, interviews with Democrats are often contentious as well.
Cite on the 2nd assertion? It is only contentious with democrats of it is seen to help the DNC.
Exactly. The primary reason for the existence of the modern mainstream news media is to promote and defend democrat narratives.
“Mike Huckabee's thirst for apocalypse”
No blatant bias there at all.
Thank god the tariff apocalypse already happened to remove the threat.
Yes. I forgot that Trump’s tariffs have cause the deaths of 90% of the world’s population.
The Huckster is a nutcase End-Timer, you idiot. He believes that shit.
Cool story bro. You got any other democrat apocalyptic fan fiction to puke out here?
Seriously, fuck off Shrike.
There is a plausible to strong case to be made that destroying the Ayatollahs nuclear program PREVENTS WWIII , or 8
Indeed. The Iranian regime are among the last people on earth who should have their hands on nuclear weapons.
“though to be fair, interviews with Democrats are often contentious as well.”
That’s not the word I would use for the mainstream outlets treatment of Democrats, but you do you Rico.
It does not appear that Trump expects regime change in Iran, but rather wants to destroy their nuclear weapon program. A nation ruled by religious zealots who want to kill Christians and Jews, especially the US, and believes suicide bombs are a pathway to paradise can almost be counted on to use the bombs offensively.
No nation building, only destruction of military capability from the air.
Regime change in Iran should come from within. Hopefully the Israelis will give the Iranian people an opening to topple their evil government.
That is what is happening like it or not.
I can’t understand not liking it. The current situation is not tenable.
Neither can I. Yet there's constant opposition to anything sensible for awhile now.
I'd think people would realize one of the basic rules of living is to not let your emotions rule you. The (D)estructive (N)arcist (C)onformity crowd pushes feelings and being sensitive in front of sensibility and honesty.
I think they continue with this path because the media is still behind them. Outside of one stats guy on CNN the bias, left wing hate, TDS and omitting facts to help carry a failed DNC continues.
I voted for Trump in large part because I believed he was by far the least likely viable candidate to drag the US into another war. I still think that's true. But the problem here is that we're dealing with radical Islamists. Why would they negotiate when they can be martrys rewarded with 70 virgins? A couple of bunker bombs won't solve the problem. And we will inevitably be dragged in. If Trump doesn't understand this he is ill advised. I'm also unconvinced that Iran has or will soon have nuclear weapons. US intelligence, the UN and Tulsi Gabbard are also unconvinced. A war in the middle east is the end of America First. Really hope that doesn't happen.
>>A war in the middle east is the end of America First.
what war is taking place resulting in the end of America First?
>>Dave Smith
you bleed the miniscule professional credibility you have citing Dave Smith
Also by calling him a comedian instead of "comedian". Scare quotes make a difference.
“In contrast, mainstream media is characterized by hostile interviews: For example, see every single instance of CNN, CBS, or ABC interviewing a Republican political figure—though to be fair, interviews with Democrats are often contentious as well.”
Seriously, dude?!? The MSM, as a matter of policy and practice, pitches softballs to Democrats and often helps them when they struggle with a response. Watch a video of a member of the MSM interviewing Harris during last years presidential campaign and maybe—just maybe—you’ll learn something.
He may have been referring to Gutfeld on The 5 being contentious to dems, not saying CNN,CBS or ABC are towards dems. Or suggesting these fake coming out party, they were duped books are being somehow harsh toward dems. They were all complicit and should be ashamed.
How can anyone hold their heads up and say they would vote for the DNC? Knowing how the party and the media lied to the people. Harris had to pay for all the endorsements she received? Did Oprah vote for her? She sure as shit had to get paid large to interview her. And how could Harris knowing she has this issue with being coherent in front of anyone think she should ever be in a position of importance at any level never mind the President?
The US is not being dragged into anything. Bombing the mountain with a MOP to extinguish nuke potential is not declaring war and does not require Congress.
Israel must be who breaks the Iran regime's back and frees the Iranian, Palestinian, Lebanese, Yemenese people for a lasting peace to occur.
Dave Smith says he regrets voting for Trump and even thinks he should be impeached
A rare libertarian with principles.
No, you just hate Trump. A child molesting Sorosite, such as yourself, doesn’t have principles
>>Independent media is where regime-change apologia goes to die.
also lol does your paycheck with Koch and Soros autographs qualify or disqualify you as independent media?
Trump's belief that Iran should never have a nuke is not a new thing. He's been exceptionally open about it. For a long time.
I think most people have agreed for a long time.
Soave, Soave, Soave - that is not Rogan's schtick. People don't listen to *Rogan* because of his 'pressing' but because he *doesn't* do that.
His whole thing is to give the guest a reasonably friendly format to express themselves without their needing to be defensive and respond to attacks. So they can be open about what they believe and why.
He's not there for a debate, he's not there to change minds. He's there for a college bullshit session.
Exactly. He let's the listeners conclude what they will from what they hear, he tries not to do that for them.
>For example, see every single instance of CNN, CBS, or ABC interviewing a Republican political figure—though to be fair, interviews with Democrats are often contentious as well
Where? Which Ds are going on non friendly/non MSM shows?
That only happens in Robby’s retarded brain.
Israel's war against Iran
There it is again, you disgusting antisemites.
it was madly entertaining for viewers
Infotainment. Barely a step above clickbait.
the Bible's authors
Bible only has one author. Human instruments, perhaps, but one author. Correction: Author.
and he now seems poised to take the very action he swore off during his campaign
Sorry, what?