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Protests

Trump Deploys Marines to L.A.

Plus: RFK Jr. tackles vaccine advisory board, menswear influencer might be deportable, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 6.10.2025 9:30 AM

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700 Marines dispatched: President Donald Trump sent 700 Marines to California, where riots and protests against immigration raids are still going on, to protect federal property and personnel. This follows the deployment of the National Guard and several days of protests in San Francisco and Los Angeles that local and state police have struggled to get under control. Of course, the administration hasn't decided what the rules of engagement are just yet. Or where the deployed troops should sleep:

You sent your troops here without fuel, food, water or a place to sleep.

Here they are — being forced to sleep on the floor, piled on top of one another.

If anyone is treating our troops disrespectfully, it is you @realDonaldTrump. https://t.co/4i8VIiYZLr pic.twitter.com/sUYD2KHu6O

— Gavin Newsom (@GavinNewsom) June 9, 2025

"A statement by the U.S. Northern Command said that 2,100 National Guard soldiers and 700 Marines will protect federal personnel and property under the command of Task Force 51, the headquarters that has been assigned the mission," reports The Wall Street Journal. "The forces have been trained in de-escalation, crowd control, and standing rules for the use of force, the command said." But California's governor, Gavin Newsom, has objected to these deployments, saying this is escalatory and a violation of state sovereignty. And yesterday, the state sued the Trump administration over its deployment of state troops and U.S. Marines, calling it "illegal."

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Bloomberg notes:

The law strictly limits the federal deployment of troops within US borders. The 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, along with amendments and supporting regulations, generally bars the use of the active-duty U.S. military—the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines—from carrying out domestic law enforcement.

Important exceptions to the 1878 law are contained in the 1807 Insurrection Act and its modern iterations, which allow the president, without congressional approval, to employ the military for domestic use in certain circumstances. The Insurrection Act has been used very rarely to deploy troops under federal control domestically without a request from a state government, with examples mostly dating from the Civil Rights era.

So this might explain Trump's use of insurrectionist language: He's giving himself legal room, and he's already made clear he loves using statutes from the 18th and 19th centuries, meant for times of war, to expand his own power. "The people who are causing the problems are bad people, they are insurrectionists," the president told a group of reporters Monday. He added that Newsom, a vociferous critic of the administration's actions, is "a nice guy" but also "grossly incompetent."

Border czar Tom Homan has been making the TV rounds, promising arrests for anyone who obstructs Immigration and Customs Enforcement's ability to do its job—hinting that even public officials might meet a sorry fate.

"Come and get me, tough guy," Newsom had told Homan, antagonizing him a bit. "I'd do it if I were Tom," said the president. But like so much of partisan politics right now, all that appears to have been bluster. "There's no intention to arrest" California's governor, Homan backtracked yesterday.


RFK Jr.'s big shakeup: Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. just fired the entire 17-member Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP), which reports its findings to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, "to avoid conflicts of interest" and to "restore public trust in vaccines."

"The U.S. faces a crisis of public trust," writes Kennedy in The Wall Street Journal. "Whether toward health agencies, pharmaceutical companies or vaccines themselves, public confidence is waning. Some would try to explain this away by blaming misinformation or antiscience attitudes. To do so, however, ignores a history of conflicts of interest, persecution of dissidents, a lack of curiosity, and skewed science that has plagued the vaccine regulatory apparatus for decades."

Kennedy cites the Rotashield incident as an example: "Committee members regularly participated in deliberations and advocated products in which they had a financial stake," he argues in the Journal. "The CDC issued conflict-of-interest waivers to every committee member. Four out of eight ACIP members who voted in 1997 on guidelines for the Rotashield vaccine, subsequently withdrawn because of severe adverse events, had financial ties to pharmaceutical companies developing other rotavirus vaccines." This was further confirmed by the HHS Inspector General's report in 2009.

Some of these now-dismissed ACIP appointees had been selected by former President Joe Biden in January. The last-minute series of appointments seems to have been intended to preserve a pro-vaccine majority on ACIP heading into a potential shift like the one we're seeing now. But Biden may not have taken into account the degree to which the Trump administration prefers to move fast and break things.

Like with so much of what RFK Jr. peddles, there's a grain of truth within: The Rotashield incident was disturbing, and increased transparency into advisory committee actions would be good; but an incident from 30 years ago (that was subsequently investigated and rectified) doesn't necessarily mean the whole advisory board should be thrown out or that all of their decision making is invalidated. And Kennedy relies on strange reasoning at times, objecting to the "exploding" immunization schedule. But the sheer number of doses recommended does not tell us very much about whether those vaccines are safe and valuable, and what types of risks are present.

It's hard to say how much this actually changes things or how worried you should be: ACIP reviews new vaccines but is also tasked with evaluating existing vaccines. Lots of families already make the choice to deviate from the standard vaccination schedule, mostly in minor ways that don't really cause significant issues with herd immunity (i.e. delaying a less-important vaccine—think rotavirus or PCV, not polio—by six months or 1 year, or spacing out the doses). The traditional childhood vaccines—polio, MMR, DTaP—still have rather high uptake rates (over 90 percent; higher for polio), and newer vaccines not generally required by public schools like HPV and COVID have high opt-out rates. Though skepticism toward the MMR vaccine has increased at times since the '90s, uptake is still decently high.

It will probably take a long time for school immunization schedules to drastically change, and parents' decisions will probably continue to roughly track those requirements; but it is also possible that a new ACIP could overhaul all of this, give parents worse recommendations for how to vaccinate their children that lead to cyclical outbreaks (like measles), or that a showdown could take place where school districts and the federal government are at odds as to what requirements ought to exist.

"I support vaccines," RFK Jr. said in his confirmation hearings back in January. "I support the childhood [immunization] schedule." Maybe so, but in his new posting, he has an awful lot of power to alter both requirements and recommendations. Turns out Cabinet appointments have real consequences.


Scenes from New York: The state Senate passed the Medical Aid in Dying assisted suicide bill yesterday. Now it heads to Gov. Kathy Hochul's desk. But a few components of this bill make it very different from others in states like Oregon and Vermont: There's no waiting period and physicians aren't required to fill out reports to state authorities (so it will be very hard to track data to learn how many people are availing themselves of this option). Furthermore, the text specifies that assisted suicide is only available to patients who will be dead within six months according to "reasonable medical judgment" but it does not specify whether this means with or without treatment.

"There is no waiting period in the New York bill. That's the first time I've seen this," bioethicist Richard Doerflinger told The Free Press. A patient could say "in a moment of despair at first getting his or her diagnosis, 'Oh my God, I just want to die,' and sign off, and that's the end of the process."


QUICK HITS

  • Waymo will be suspending service in San Francisco, where protests are also underway, after part of its taxi fleet was damaged by L.A. protesters and rioters. ("Waymos don't have human drivers, they're devoid of humanity," one San Francisco activist told The New York Times. Destroying the robot taxis is "symbolic of the attempts, throughout the history of this country, by the tech industry to strip us of community.")
  • Inside Peru's gang-driven crime wave
  • "Elon Musk's allies inside the Trump administration are newly vulnerable after the mogul's bitter public breakup with the president," reports Semafor. "MAGA loyalists are taking advantage of the Trump-Musk rift to threaten the standing of anyone in the administration who's perceived as too close to the Tesla CEO. Leading that charge is former Trump adviser Steve Bannon, whose long-running animosity toward Musk peaked last week with the former calling to deport Musk from the US and the latter deeming Bannon a 'Communist retard.'" Bannon has started criticizing David Sacks in particular, apparently.
  • Interesting:

This is interesting. Self driving cars right now feels like the mobile internet in like 2002. Kind of seemed like it would be a big deal, but also was extremely limited and still geographically inconsistent. Everyone underestimating the massive imminent societal change. https://t.co/95dOhRNdPJ

— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) June 9, 2025

  • Another Weisenthal tweet. I can't help it if they're good!

WILL WE EVER HAVE CHEAP EGGS AGAIN

In today's Odd Lots newsletter, I wrote about affordable protein as a measure of of economic development and how we've been going backwards.

An average US worker used to be able to get 12 eggs for 6 minutes of work. Now it's over 10. pic.twitter.com/360hsjSRRE

— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) June 9, 2025

  • Twitter-famous (and somewhat widely reviled) "menswear guy" admitted he's here illegally (in a pretty good post). Now J.D. Vance is responding with memes implying he's going to deport him:

pic.twitter.com/V243VfvAtD

— JD Vance (@JDVance) June 9, 2025

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  1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Wonder how long it will be before some Antifa member drives a truck bomb into the marines.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      The start of open season on antifags.

      1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        Make sure your firearms trans-hammers are in good working order.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

      Los Angeles: Beirut in the Basin.

    3. NoVaNick   2 months ago

      Can Waymos be taught to run over anyone in all black wearing a balaclava?

      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        Hot Tub Time Machine 2 has self driving cars with consciousness and orders to run over a major douchebag…….

        ……. In the year 2025.

        Spooky.

    4. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

      It wouldn’t surprise me now that the democrats are engaged in open rebellion. It’s time to get rid of them.

  2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

    Marines will sleep anywhere. Newsom's a moron.

    1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

      “Sleeping on top of each other”

      Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        and during PRIDE month, in LA?

        Its not even in the top 10 gay things occurring that day

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      They’re not sleeping on deployment. They just regrouped in California.

    3. damikesc   2 months ago

      I enjoyed seeing Johnny Joey Jones calling out Newsom for his idiocy.

    4. MasterThief   2 months ago

      I also don't understand how he thinks that does anything besides highlight how terribly he is handling things. It's his state that they are trying to assist in. Rather than criticizing Trump for sending them with nowhere to sleep, Newsome should be offering those resources to them. He supposedly has millions of dollars of such supplies on hand for the homeless, but can't offer its usage to soldiers restoring order for him?
      What a worthless piece of garbage.

      1. rbike   2 months ago

        Yes, Listening to him complain about their conditions when he controls the resources around them. Not a win for greasy hair.

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

        I also don’t understand how he thinks that does anything besides highlight how terribly he is handling things.

        That was my exact first thought. If he had shown the marines dining at French Laundry before checking them into the Hyatt, he could have righteously derided Trump for not taking care of the troops. Hell, he could have just had pizza delivered.

        What asshat snaps a picture of hungry guys piled on a concrete floor and claims moral victory?

        1. damikesc   2 months ago

          I'd ask who shit posts on X while his state falls further into anarchy.

          I guess easier than, you know, governing.

          I miss his attempt to look more moderate a few weeks ago.

  3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Just posting this for when sarc, qb, molly, and Charlie claim this is another illegal act.

    Trump has the authority under Section 12406 of Title 10 of the U.S. Code to deploy the National Guard if the president is “unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States.”

    The Administration is saying that that is precisely what is unfolding in California, where mobs attack vehicles and trap federal personnel.

    Most critics are challenging the deployment on policy grounds, arguing that it is an unnecessary escalation. However, even critics like Berkeley Law Dean Erwin have admitted that “Unfortunately, President Trump likely has the legal authority to do this.”

    https://jonathanturley.org/2025/06/09/always-ready-always-there-democrats-mobilize-against-the-national-guard-deployment/

    1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

      Yeah, but are they in unmarked vans? Hmmm?

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Dammit. Argument foiled again.

        Although masked agents is the new scream from the libtards.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

          Masked protestors = good
          Masked agents = bad

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            What about the Masked Crusader?

            1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

              What about the Caped Crusader?

              1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

                What about the Holy Crusaders?

                1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

                  No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

                    Our chief weapon is surprise... surprise and fear... fear and surprise... Our two weapons are fear and surprise... and ruthless efficiency.... Our three weapons are fear, and surprise, and ruthless efficiency... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope...

            2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

              What about the Jazz Crusaders?

        2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

          Tony will use the ‘nuh uh’ argument. So watch out for that.

          1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

            The "nuh uh" argument is easily countered with the classic "uh huh" riposte.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        Hopefully the only marking is the 50 cal machine gun mount

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Sarc is below pretending he understands the constitution better than the word ad hominem.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Charlie also doesn't understand the word. Seems to be a trait of leftists.

        They seem to revel in argument by ignorance.

      2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        Toddlers have a better understanding of the Constitution than Trump or any of his defenders.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

          Ideas!

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Be specific. How is the constitution being violated? No screaming due process as an argument. Explain what process is due citing actual precedent or laws.

          This is like when you claimed Biden recognized the constitution despite hum publicly claiming he was ignoring scotus.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            Do you mean the actual Constitution, or the new age Big Blue Constitution Book, with revisions that suit the campus elite, with a forward by Howard Zinn?

            ps. We know Zinn has been dead for 15 years, but academia now accepts generative AI as the legal equivalent.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Zinn was a bigger issue than even the 1619 prprojectof course dem control of schools allowed both to occur.

          2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

            He’s just going to screech that you’re laying meany and he doesn’t have to explain anything. Just like he always does when he’s backed into a corner.

    3. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      This poster is the same as every other MAGA dumbshit fascist. They pick the parts of a law they like and ignore the rest. The law says " Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States", and that (one of the ways) makes what Trump is doing illegal.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Which poster. Constitutional law scholar Jonathan Turley? Or the Berkley law dean?

        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

          MG never ignores the parts of law it finds inconvenient. Especially immigration law.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            The fake doctor gets all their analysis from reddit. Not even joking. Molly's arguments are whatever was on reddit that morning.

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            MG.
            Is.
            Full.
            Of.
            Shit.
            Fuck off and die, MG.

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Can I interest you in a helicopter ride, commie scum?

      3. damikesc   2 months ago

        I will trust your analysis over Turley. Truly.

      4. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        Tony, just kill yourself. Your raving commie faggot act is strong old.

      5. DesigNate   2 months ago

        JFK deployed the National Guard multiple times to ensure the safety of black students during integration, so the idea that the President can’t deploy troops to protect federal agents/assets is fucking asinine.

  4. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    The floor? My god the humanity! Can you imagine the 101st Airborne in Dec of '44 having to sleep on a floor?

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      And without access to free feminine products and their choice of hair gel.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Totally worse then being spit on. Probably some culture somewhere in the world that spit is a sign of love and we should adopt their world view for tolerance and diversity or something.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Wasn't that a thing in Dune?

          1. Pear Satirical (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 months ago

            Yep.

        2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

          Allow me to display my affection.

          1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

            That's one of the few Jim Carey movies I really liked. AV2 was better than Ace Ventura--and that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago
    3. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

      I imagine that if a certain Governor Newsom hadn't made it clear that the troops saving his state from the Democratic party's paid rioters were unwelcome, they might have had better spots to bivouac.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        The law actually says "governor shall", it is a requirement to deploy the troops. Newsome has literally violated the law by refusing to call in the troops given Trumps law and order declaration.

        1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

          Presidents have zero authority to give state governors orders. Trump has no authority to issue laws.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            The law disagrees with you. As cited by the maga Berkley legal Dean.

            Trump didn’t issue the law dumdum. It was part of the federalization regulations of national guard units over a century ago. Congress passed the law dumdum.

            The supremacy clause doesn't exist now? Good. Texas, Florida, Arizona, etc can start deporting illegals om their own now. Glad to hear it.

            1. damikesc   2 months ago

              I'd ask who shit posts on X while his state falls further into anarchy.

              I guess easier than, you know, governing.

              I miss his attempt to look more moderate a few weeks ago.Yup. If TX and AZ could not deport illegals if the Feds did not do so, "sanctuary cities" cannot refuse to deport either.

          2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

            Deploying the national guard is not issuing a law.

            1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

              Tony is too stupid to understand that.

          3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            MG.
            Is.
            Full.
            Of.
            Shit.
            Fuck off and die, asshole.

          4. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

            Deploying the National Guard isn't making laws you absolute moron, nor has Trump given Newsome "orders". You're so self-discredited you think you can just say anything now, huh?

            The only one flouting the law is Newsome and your rioting Democratic Party agents.

          5. damikesc   2 months ago

            "Presidents have zero authority to give state governors orders. Trump has no authority to issue laws."

            Molly coming out against Eisenhower desegregating schools.

            Also because of Democrat actions.

    4. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Honestly I can't imagen them being allowed to sleep. They spent a day and a half quietly scaling a cliff.

    5. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      I know what's next? I bet there are some navy seals out there wearing a pair of unclean underwear, or some special forces that had to forego second breakfast!

      1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

        The coffee was cold!

  5. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    We all know CNN is terrible outside of one of their pundits. The other funny thing CNN has been doing though is showing democrats Trumps polling numbers and having democrats melt down.

    Townhall.com
    @townhallcom
    CNN confronts LA Mayor Karen Bass with polling showing OVERWHELMING support for President Trump's deportation agenda:

    "Are Democrats out of touch on this issue?"

    BASS: "I think if you did the polling in Los Angeles, I'm not sure it would be that way. We are a city of immigrants!"
    Video

    https://x.com/townhallcom/status/1932094708051857497

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

      Trump's 63% with Hispanics. That's higher than with straight white males.

      I don't think that the Democrats have ever had a strategy backfire harder.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        Probably not once your remove the no pussy getting man bun fags pretending to be straight.

      2. Marshal   2 months ago

        They know exactly what illegals are like and who their targets are going to be.

        1. HorseConch   2 months ago

          Same with black men. Both groups are way more likely to be victims than the white voters in the suburbs that want their yard mowed cheap and deal with no negative consequences.

  6. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Columbia anti Israel protestors had direct links to Hamas.

    https://nypost.com/2025/06/04/us-news/protestor-tarek-bazrouk-had-link-to-hamas-militants-doj/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_source=twitter

    1. Pear Satirical (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 months ago

      Obligatory "I am shocked! Shocked! Well, not that shocked."

      1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        Don't forget appalled. Shocked, and appalled!

  7. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    No you fucking cunt.
    Donald Trump sent in marines* to take down an invading force.
    The astric is because this is the first time I heard about the marines and comming from reason I don’t believe it

    Edit, fucking kill yourself
    Invaders from another country are waving their flag and attacking my country. Please Liz fuck off.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Technically right now they can only protect government building and government agents executing federal law. They can't quell riots not directly effecting one of these 2 things.

    2. Zeb   2 months ago

      So they aren't there to protect federal property and personnel? When are they going to start shooting?

  8. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    The riots in LA are not grass roots, they are manufactured. Often from NGOs paid with tax dollars. Another example of this is the reaction by the public to almost exclusive Mexican flags during the first 3 days. This went over terribly even on CNN. It included stomping and burning the flag.

    The NGOs got the memo and now feature American flags.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/06/notice-anything-different-about-the-la-riots-on-monday/

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      The primary group behind the riots is of course... an act blue client.

      https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/finance/advocacy-group-center-anti-ice-protests-la-has-long-raised-money-through-0

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

        Arrest them and make examples of the board. Charge them for all the damage and every grievous injury.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          And then deport them to El Salvador.

          1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

            Or even Sweden.

      2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

        So, Conservative Republicans?

        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

          Nelson never claimed to be smart.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Exactly.

      3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        But....I thought Act Blue was the homestead of true conservatives...

      4. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        I’m hoping the Soros family oversteps and gets hauled off to jail.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

          Woodchippers at the ready

      5. DesigNate   2 months ago

        “act blue client.”

        Ahh, so conservatives.

        Edit: should have scrolled further to see I wouldn’t be the first to make that joke.

    2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      Ya, this is so on the nose that its an astro turfed, funded by focus group loving NGOs.

      The most common take I saw from even left leaning commentators was "I support their cause, but the images of the streets and American flags burning while there is nothing to see but Mexican flags...doesn't look great..."

      And look at that, crisp, freshly unfolded American flags the next day passed out, probably right next to the pallet of bricks

    3. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      If you gave money to people burning shit, go to jail, go directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200.

    4. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      MAGAs believe that all opposition to them are paid protesters.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        Because they are, dipshit. Read below.

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Fuck off lying scum. Nobody here believes anything you say.

      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        They are literally being paid through NGOs on taxpayer dollars dumdum.

      4. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

        They literally are. Just like how you are paid to shill here.

      5. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Oof:

        Taxpayer's are giving that NGO nearly $30 million...

        Wow.

        https://x.com/matt_vanswol/status/1932450368329593158

        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

          So most of their riot operating funds:

          “latest IRS 990 filing for 2023 shows that CHIRLA had revenue of close to $45 million”

          You're paying for Democrats to burn down American cities.

          1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

            I would prefer to pay for shooting the democrats burning down American cities.

          2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

            I think I saw that most of their funding was from California grants, with little federal monies.

            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

              There was a significant contribution from the Department of Homeland Security.

      6. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        Democrats are engaged in open rebellion Tony. Time to start locking up your fellow travelers.

      7. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Well, not ALL of them. Some people are stupid enough to do that shit for free. But it's unquestionably true that some are professional protesters and that someone is funding the protests (via equipment, at least, handing out masks, face shields, pallets of bricks, flags, ...).

    5. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

      Damn straight they’re being paid for and coordinated.

      https://x.com/datarepublican/status/1931508083127362024?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

      Hundreds took to the streets this weekend: blocking roads, attacking federal officers, even burning flags. But this wasn't "spontaneous outrage."

      This was organized. Funded. Coordinated.

      Here’s a breakdown of the groups, the money, and the people pulling the strings.

      Patience as I assemble the thread and verify information in real time

      A number of NGOs have been implicated in this. Foremost is Coalition for Humane Immigration Rights or CHIRLA, and the photos of signs show they were printed by PSLWEB / Party for Socialism and Liberation.

      CHIRLA has the EIN of 954421521. Most of its private funding appears to be from DAFs, which are the hardest to trace. However 34 million of its reported 45 million in revenue are from government grants.

      In their most recent year, CHIRLA jumped from 12 million to 34 million in government grants. Nice!

      However, this is probably from CA - "only" 450K in federal grants.

      The group which printed the signs for protests, Party for Socialism and Liberation, is not a nonprofit - they are a literal Communist party.

      It is tough to find backings on either group, as they do not have a nonprofit associated with them. Both claim to be funded entirely by members. (BS)

      However, I did find a NY Post article claiming that both are funded by billionaire socialist Neville Singer.

      Neville Singham - sorry. Real nice guy. Activist who became a billionaire by pushing Chinese propaganda worldwide.

      Singham also financed the People's Forum - giving it over 20 million dollars. All 3 Singham-financed organizations were also heavily involved in the Columbia protests.

    6. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      There’s a video of a truck showing up with cases of face masks that were being handed out to the rioters.

      1. Zeb   2 months ago

        Is it a real video? Hard to tell these days. I've seen a few photos supposedly of piles of bricks left on the street that look like AI to me (no pallet under the strapped ton of bricks, shadows that don't make sense). I won't be surprised if that is happening, but it's good to be careful about what you believe given the remarkable quality of AI fakes.

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          It looked real to me, and several different sources reported it. I’ll keep my eye out for it and repost if I see it.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            A lot of their tactics from 2020 aren’t going to work with the advance of citizen journalists and internet sleuths. We’ll know who he is in the next 24-48 hours:

            BREAKING:

            Do you know this man?

            He is dropping off face masks, gas masks, and other riot gear in Los Angeles tonight.

            Lets ID him.

            Its the first step to finding out who's funding the riots.

            Share please.

            https://x.com/MilaLovesJoe/status/1932282377554063803

            1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

              It also helps that they don’t do troll twitter anymore. Nor do they control the DoJ or any other part of the federal government.

              This is open rebellion, and should be dealt with as such.

            2. Zeb   2 months ago

              That's going to help a lot in discouraging this stuff (I hope). Assuming police are willing to do anything with the info.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          It's real. Was on fox.

          https://x.com/MattSeedorff/status/1932331319507538373

          1. Zeb   2 months ago

            Yeah, looks legit. And I have no doubt that this is to a large extent organized and planned. I just want to be careful about promoting fakes, which definitely exist too.

        3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          I saw video of one guy smashing concrete blocks into baseball-sized chunks and handing them over to people who ran off to throw them at cops. He had a small pile of concrete blocks he was working on. Did he just find some blocks on the sidewalk?

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

            There was a Home Depot right there and they store concrete blocks outside. I can't imagine anyone was worried more cops would show up if they jumped the fence.

            1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

              I’ve just seen a still image with a Home Depot shopping cart and a pile of concrete blocks. And one guy with a slab of concrete block in his hand looking for a target. Of course, someone dumped a bunch of trash and set it on fire right next to the pile of concrete blocks making this guy's job a lot harder…

              I suppose they bought or simply stole the blocks from the HD.

          2. Zeb   2 months ago

            I have no idea. I'm not promoting any particular answer here, I just don't know what to believe and don't want to find myself using fake images to make a point. I'm sure some people brought masonry to throw. I have some doubts that big stacks of bricks got delivered without the use of pallets.

            1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

              It's a good point to be skeptical of any images we see online. You don't want to overplay your hand and buy into and publicize a fake image, only for that mistake to give cover to the organized rioters. Then a real image of this shit is doubted by normies because we cried wolf on the fake images.

              That being said, I'd be willing to bet most of these images/videos are not fakes. But it's good to be skeptical of everything you see online today. That was the attitude I took at the start of the Ukraine war, with so much of the news fake or manufactured as propaganda.

              1. Zeb   2 months ago

                Yeah, that's pretty much where I'm at. Wouldn't be surprised if some of the fakes are false flag sort of things. "Let's see what we can get the stupid conservatives to believe." Don't give those people the satisfaction or ammunition.

                1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                  I’m surprised we didn’t see a “war” of fake AI images pushed in the leadup to the 2024 election. I’d been predicting that from 2023 onward, but it didn’t materialize. Now, while the AI images from 2024 were a marked improvement from 2023, perhaps they still weren’t good enough to cause havoc in the election. I suspect 2028 will be a different story. But, perhaps by then everyone will be wary of realistic-looking AI fakes, and it won’t have the impact I’m fearing.

                  I thought a few days before the 2024 election there would be a realistic, AI-fake video clip of Trump calling black people the N-word, or at least something to that effect.

                  1. Zeb   2 months ago

                    There are still ways to sort out the fakes. We'll see how long that lasts.

                    It all kind of makes me want to give up on giving a shit about current events (and most of the rest of the human world). Most of it is irrelevant to me and no one cares what I think anyway.

    7. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      My wife pointed out the sudden appearance of American flags yesterday. The optics all around are terrible for the Democrats.

      1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        It seems clear there was an optics shift with the importation of American flags for the protesters/rioters. But that could also produce even worse optics if the protesters/rioters take the American flags they were given and burn them on camera.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          I can only imagine the people organizing it get frustrated with their angry mob sometimes. They definitely use antifa, etc, but I doubt they really control them. Which makes it all even worse as they are still willing to unleash that mob of the dregs of humanity on cities.

  9. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Waymo taxis that were summoned and set on fire during the riots last weekend all had cameras that ran continuously right up until the flames took them out. Waymo says they will be working with law enforcement to help identify the arsonists, and reporting the identities of the people who order the robot taxis to their final destination.

    https://pjmedia.com/victoria-taft/2025/06/09/even-the-incinerated-robo-taxis-know-a-riot-when-they-see-one-n4940604

    On Sunday afternoon, a line of five Waymo cars was set on fire on Los Angeles Street between Arcadia and Alameda in downtown Los Angeles.

    How did they all get to that one spot? Somebody, or maybe many somebodies, ordered taxis, and the driverless cars simply drove themselves to the scene of the planned riot. These suspects presumably gave payment information, which the company requires, ordered the taxis to the pickup spot, which was in the middle of the street, and then set them on fire.

    {Waymo] cars are outfitted with 3-D sensors and 29 cameras. Each camera has a 360º view.

    Before they set them on fire and the connection to the Waymo home base was lost, rioters were "slashing tires, tagging the windows," and setting them on fire. Not everyone was wearing a mask.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      No point, sympathetic judges will drop all charges.

      1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        Then it will be time to arrest sympathetic judges.

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      It's only property!!! They are insured!!!

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        And burning cars, like breaking windows, increases economic growth.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          I've heard that theory.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

            The cars are Jaguars. So, tariff money, yeah!

        2. damikesc   2 months ago

          Are we allowed to now defund all environmental groups as, this year, progressives have shown they do not give the first iota of a damn about the environment.

        3. rbike   2 months ago

          But then Trump wins??

      2. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

        Who actually made that claim?

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Quite a few democrats on corporate media during the BLM riots said exactly that.

        2. Dillinger   2 months ago

          the list is long and distinguished.

        3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          https://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/story/news/local/2014/11/24/ferguson-grand-jury-decision/70067160/

          Still, Ferguson resident Malik Rhasaan, a community organizer with Hands Up United, said the carnage was nothing compared to the sight of Brown's body lying in the street for several hours following his death. "They have insurance. They can rebuild,'' said Rhasaan, 42. "The life of Mike Brown can't be rebuilt. Our patience cannot be rebuilt."

    3. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      I'm told it was all in good fun.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Mostly peaceful.

    4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

      I said yesterday, this is how you get to Maximum Overdrive.

      It's only fun to watch AI powered cars burn until the cars decide they have had enough.

  10. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    '"Come and get me, tough guy," Newsom had told Homan, antagonizing him a bit. "I'd do it if I were Tom," said the president. But like so much of partisan politics right now, all that appears to have been bluster. "There's no intention to arrest" California's governor, Homan backtracked yesterday.'

    Oooh, slap fight!

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      "" Homan backtracked yesterday.’""

      I don't think Homan backtracked. He never planned to arrest Newsom. He drew a line. Newsom has not stepped on the line.

      1. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

        It all sounds kind of gay coded.

  11. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    So this might explain Trump’s use of insurrectionist language: He’s giving himself legal room, and he’s already made clear he loves using statutes from the 18th and 19th centuries, meant for times of war, to expand his own power.

    Hey now. Democrats wrongly called J6 an insurrection to unjustly activate wartime powers. That means it’s right and just when Trump does it. Remember that right and wrong, just and unjust, are determined not by what the person does, but rather by the political party of the person who does it. When Democrats do it, whatever "it" may be, it is wrong and unjust. But when Trump does the exact same thing it's cause for celebration.

    1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

      Haha poor pour sarc.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        It is amazing watching him lie about his prior support for abusive democrat acts.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      They didn't activate wartime powers for J6, and Insurrection charge was never included retard.

      What they did is misread a federal law to lock up over 900 non violent j6ers, hold them in solitary confinement, offer no bail, require fealty statements, and abuse the rights of citizens. While you cheered and defended it.

      1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

        We cheered that they were arrested. We were disappointed that they were not charged with insurrection and treason and executed. They all did it.

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          Speak for yourself.

          Just like the with the Summer of Floyd, not all J6 protesters were rioters.

          Same thing in LA right now. Not all protesters are rioters.

          Trump and his defenders would argue differently and claim that they’re all rioters, but then say that J6 was a mere protest and no one did anything wrong. That’s because they’re unprincipled pieces of shit.

          Fact is that, even with J6, not all protesters were rioters. The rioters and organizers deserved jail. The protesters were just caught up in the mess.

          Don’t be an unprincipled piece of shit like Jesse and his ilk. Be better than those shitbags.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            Nice of you to add so many strawman arguments to try to seem like you’re neutral.

            Youre lying about your stances and your enemies stances because dr retard pulled the mask off.

            Go to the first day sullum thread. You’ll see you’re lying. Nobody defended the violent protestors. Meanwhile you defended felony counts against the non violent ones, abuse of a law to charge them with felonies, the non violent protestor arrests, no bail, solitary confinement, etc. You even still defend officer Byrd blindly shooting an unarmed protestor into a crowd where 3 officers were on that side not shooting.

            Yes I have the links.

            1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

              "Nobody defended the violent protestors." Trump praised and pardoned them. However, I agree that Trump is a nobody.

              "You even still defend officer Byrd blindly shooting an unarmed protestor" Damn right we do. The traitorous bitch is in hell where she belongs.

              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                MG.
                Is.
                A.
                Slimy.
                Pile.
                Of.
                Lying.
                Lefty.
                Shit.
                Who.
                Deserves.
                To.
                Get.
                Reamed.
                With.
                A.
                Barb.
                Wire.
                Wrapped.
                Broomstick.
                Fuck off and die shit-face.

              2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                “Nobody defended the violent protestors.”

                Don’t believe Jesse’s lies (you can fairly assume anything he says is a lie). He and the other usual suspects defended the violent ones by saying it was ok since the Floyd rioters got away with acts of violence. Why do you think they get angry when I snark "It's ok because Democrats did it first"? It's because they actually believe it.

                1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                  Fuck off and die, asshole.

                2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                  Find a quote. I even told you where to find evidence against your lie sarc. Go. Find. It. Or stop lying.

                3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

                  Cite, Sarc?

                4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

                  He and the other usual suspects defended the violent ones by saying it was ok since the Floyd rioters got away with acts of violence.

                  That is not what anybody said.

                  You and Jeffy defended the crowds preventing police from engaging with the rockthrowers, firebombers and looters as "peaceful". This is fact. You have had those posts thrown in your face multiple times.

                  Providing aid and cover to criminals is not peaceful. That it was strategic and planned in many cases is obvious when reviewing video. Innocent people may have been caught up in it, but I have yet to see a single case of non-violent conviction during that period. The outrage would still be going on if it had happened.

                  Everyone here has denounced the violence that occurred on 1/6. And so did the President.

                  The President pardoned people whose sentences and/or punishment had gone on for so long and was so out of proportion to sentencing during the Floyd riots that it was an offense to reasonable people. Many of those convicted had no violent offenses. Multi-year sentences for nothing but trespass.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                    You and Jeffy defended the crowds preventing police from engaging with the rockthrowers, firebombers and looters as “peaceful”. This is fact. You have had those posts thrown in your face multiple times.

                    I can’t speak for jeff, but I never defended that. I said that not all protesters were rioters. Then liars like you and Jesse claimed that meant I was defending rioters because you guys claimed that every single protester was a rioter (while every J6 yahoo, including the violent ones, where just “peaceful tourists”)

                    Everyone here has denounced the violence that occurred on 1/6.

                    That’s a complete and total lie. Immediately after you guys said that everything they did was ok because Floyd rioters got away with violence. You know, your perennial “They did it first so it’s ok” defense. Only afterwards did you finally claim to have changed your mind, but no one except you and your fellow liars buys it.

                    All you’ve got is lies. You’re fucking pathological.

                    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

                      you guys claimed that every single protester was a rioter

                      I just reiterated my unchanged position from 2020 directly above your post: "Providing aid and cover to criminals is not peaceful". Some protesters got in the way between cops and criminals. They were arrested. This was justified in June of 2020, it was justified in January of 2021.

                      In typical fashion, Chemjeff disagreed. I have no need to fabricate a story as you supported Chemjeff then with the fallacious argumentation which you repeat to this day:

                      I said that not all protesters were rioters.

                      Which is, and always will be, completely irrelevant as to whether or not obstructing the police is violence, no matter how many times you repeat it. Nobody has ever disagreed that not all protesters were rioters. That was never an argument anyone made.

                      Immediately after you guys said that everything they did was ok because Floyd rioters got away with violence.

                      And neither was this argument ever made. You can't demonstrate it, yet you persist to the point of an unfounded accusation of lying.

                      This is the sum total of my experience with you. I present nuanced arguments and you rage against strawmen. I respond with further clarification and you continue to rage against strawmen and hysterically shout "Liar!".

                      Who wins, Sarcasmic? To be honest, not me. I wasted time arguing with a fool.

                    2. DesigNate   2 months ago

                      “Immediately after you guys said that everything they did was ok because Floyd rioters got away with violence.”

                      A. None of the regular posters here ever made that argument.

                      B. The most that they did was bitch about shitting on one group of protestors with some rioters while lauding a different group. That’s not excusing behavior it’s pointing out the abject hypocrisy of the people they were arguing with.

                    3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

                      A. None of the regular posters here ever made that argument

                      The most racist things I have ever read in this forum is inevitably one of the left-libertarian fucks spouting what they pretend their critics think. I have witnessed both Chemjeff and Sarcasmic do it and it is ugly.

                    4. Marshal   2 months ago

                      That’s a complete and total lie. Immediately after you guys said that everything they did was ok because Floyd rioters got away with violence.

                      More lies from sarc. We, and all principled people, demanded the same bifurcation between those who committed violence and those who did not. This desire caused you to froth at the mouth.

                      Now of course you pretend that's what you wanted because that's the principle you want applied again. But at no time during the J6 investigation did you make this demand or speak in defense of non-violent J6ers.

                    5. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                      Sarc continues to lie constantly. It is fucking amazing. You never screamed about unmarked vans??

              3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                Trump never defended the violent protesters dumdum.

                He pardoned them because of the DoJ actions, using the wrong law as ruled by SCOTUS, and the DoJ abuses. Most served for over a year before the pardons dumdum.

                Keep ripping your mask off Tony.

              4. damikesc   2 months ago

                Trump needs to send a few thousand Marines and Special Forces in. Mass destruction and non-US flags aflying. That is an invasion. No mercy.

                Kill Newsom and Bass as well. Treason has a punishment spelled out.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

            So should we shoot them?

          3. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

            ""Just like the with the Summer of Floyd, not all J6 protesters were rioters.""

            Knows it's a generalization fallacy.

            ""Same thing in LA right now. Not all protesters are rioters.""

            Knows it's a generalization fallacy.

            ""Trump and his defenders ""

            Forgets what a generalization fallacy is.

            1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

              Sarcjeff's probably been drowning in alcohol since he was in the womb. You can't expect him to remember things.

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

                It is hilarious when they try to antagonize by calling "liar!" When they can't even stay on topic.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Lol.

          God damn dr retard is mad enough to pull the mask off.

          Sarc. This is your retarded ally. Lol.

        3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Hey, cunt, want to come on a hunting trip in the mountains? We have this cool hat for you to wear.

        4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          MG.
          Is.
          Full.
          Of.
          Shit.
          Fuck off and die, ass wipe.

        5. damikesc   2 months ago

          900+ executions, eh?

          Tell me more about how we should feel bad for the invasion in LA being put down in the most savage manner humanly possible.

        6. DesigNate   2 months ago

          Get fucked.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Well, that's at least partly because Jan 6 was over in like 3 hours. A few folks got rowdy and moved some police barriers and walked where they weren't supposed to; a few even pushed some cops. Some other folks got their police-escorted tour of the Capitol and went home. Well, Ashley Babbit didn't go home, but she deserved to be shot in the face for trespassing, is what I've been told.

        1. rbike   2 months ago

          Remember the agent provateur who was right next to Babbit when she was shot? Would have been so much better if that professional leftist agitator had taken the bullet.

    3. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      *Click*
      6:00

      ♪♪♪

      Okay, campers, rise and shine! And don’t forget your booties ‘cause it’s cold out there today!
      It's cold out there EVERYDAY!

      1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        When you and your ilk stop praising Trump for doing things that you condemned when done by Democrats, then I'll stop pointing it out.

        Deal?

        1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

          Nobody will make deals with you.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Regular execution of the law is bad when Trump does it - sarc.

          How about you stop lying and admitted you defended and cheered the actual bad shit democrats did? Oh. And learn what the laws actually are dumdum.

        3. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

          Except your not even doing that, drunky, and the two situations aren't comparable. Imagine if J6 had lasted a week and had burned down businesses and cars, rather than an escorted tour and a three year Democratic party campaign to lie about what happened.

        4. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

          I'm praising Trump for the shit democrats NEVER did. Trying to stop riots, actively removing violent foreign invaders, and hopefully arresting the Gov of Kalifornia.

          1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            Deploying the military on US soil in violation of the law, invading homes without warrants in violation of the Constitution, depriving people of birthright citizenship and due process in violation of the Constitution…

            *swoon*

            Why do you celebrate when Trump violates the law and the Constitution? Just kidding. I know why. DEMOCRATS AAAUUUGGHHH! ILLEGALS AAAUUUGGHHH!

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Violation of what law? I posted legal analysis above.

              Stop your fucking argumentation from ignorance/shitlib narrative.

            2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

              Deploying the military to stop an invasion is not a violation of the law. Enemy combatants destroying property and attacking Americans, while waving foreign flags on US soil need to be killed, not arrested. Only YOU and the DNC would defend what's happening in LA.

              1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                Riiiiiiiiight. Invasion. Enemy combatants.

                That’s as honest as calling the J6 yahoos “insurrectionists.”

                I’m not defending what’s happening in LA you lying sack of shit. The difference is that I recognize it as a criminal matter, while you see it as an excuse to slaughter people you hate.

                Let's say that the J6 yahoos really were insurrectionists. By your stated reasoning they should have been mowed down with machine guns. But you of course would never accept that.

                1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

                  They should be shot in the face for trespassing on public property.

                2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

                  Except that you’ve called the J6ers insurrectionists quite often in previous comments, dip.

                3. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

                  while you see it as an excuse to slaughter people you hate

                  Throw a 5 lbs rock through my car window and you will take bullets. This isn’t hatred, this is 100% justifiable self-defense.

                  Now line up 100’s of military-aged men, throwing large rocks at cops and citizens, burning property, while many are waving flags of a foreign country. How does this compare to J6 protesters?

                  You are nothing but a disingenuous asshole.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                    Throw a 5 lbs rock through my car window and you will take bullets. This isn’t hatred, this is 100% justifiable self-defense.

                    And you’d go to prison for murder because deadly force is not justified to protect property unless there is an immediate threat to your life.

                    How does this compare to J6 protesters?

                    It compares in the words being dishonestly used to describe what they did. Democrats dishonestly used the word “insurrection” to activate wartime powers. Trump dishonestly is using the same word to do the same thing. Though I’m sure you feel it’s ok for him to do it because Democrats did it first.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

                      Hey, dumbass, the act of throwing the five pound rock in the first place is an act threatening to human life. Those can kill if they hit the head. Shooting back then becomes an act of self defense, dipshit.

                    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                      Are you this fucking retarded that you dont know rocks thrown through windows of moving vehicles can and have killed people??

                      Will you justify all leftist violence??

                    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                      Wtf do you think the purpose of throwing rocks through windshields of cars driving down the street is?

                  2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

                    And you’d go to prison for murder because deadly force is not justified to protect property unless there is an immediate threat to your life.

                    Two things wrong with your statement:

                    1) I’m driving the car (you knew this was assumed, but played stupid anyway)
                    2) I’m not stopping or calling the police.

                    One thing I learned from the Summer of Love, people who defend themselves are criminalized by the leftists, including YOU. The guy in Austin, several Minneapolis business owners, and Rittenhouse. Kill a rioting pedo, and walk away. If it’s truly self-defense, go home, eat a hearty meal, and get a good night’s sleep.
                    No NAP violation.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                      1) I’m driving the car (you knew this was assumed, but played stupid anyway)

                      You didn't say that.

                      2) I’m not stopping or calling the police.

                      So you murder them and drive off. Classy. And very illegal.

                      people who defend themselves are criminalized by the leftists, including YOU

                      There's a difference between self defense and murder. You just said you'd cheerfully commit murder and call it self defense.

                      If it’s truly self-defense, go home, eat a hearty meal, and get a good night’s sleep.

                      If it's truly self defense then you should not be afraid to stick around. You're talking about murder and calling it self defense. Not that I'm surprised since you said you want the military to kill protesters.

                      We're heading down the road to fascism, and you can't wait to get there.

                    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                      “1) I’m driving the car (you knew this was assumed, but played stupid anyway)

                      You didn’t say that.”

                      Sarc admits he isn’t aware what is actually happening in LA.

                    3. DesigNate   2 months ago

                      So if I’m just sitting in my car minding my own business and rocks start flying through the windshield, you think I’m not allowed to defend myself or my property?

                      WTF sarc?!

                    4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

                      We’re heading down the road to fascism, and you can’t wait to get there.

                      Evidence.

                      Remember that Sarc is a piece of shit Marxist whether he even knows it or not and that what a piece of shit Marxist claims others want is inevitably a projection of what they want for themselves.

                      Sarc wants riots. Sarc wants Trump to react in every way that Sarc can point to as totalitarian and fascist. Because when the President is a fascist, the revolution is justified. And the endgame for every piece of shit Marxist like Sarc is revolution. Because he knows that without revolution, he will forever be a bottom.

          2. Marshal   2 months ago

            I’m praising Trump for the shit democrats NEVER did.

            It's easy to forget but Dem Governors did eventually call out the national guard in 2020. It was the day after the election which shows they knew how to stop the riots all along but chose not to for political reasons.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

              And that’s the game Gavin “Newscum” Newsom is playing right now.

              1. Marshal   2 months ago

                Right, but it's not going to play out the same way. In 2020 there was a dead black man to rally behind which gave them a certain amount of support. Today we have foreign nationals destroying US property while arguing our country cannot do anything to them, supported by America-hating Americans who assert the same thing. These riots are overwhelmingly negative for the left and the numbers will continue to get worse. That's why the left media propaganda machine immediately started focusing on issues other than what the riot is ostensibly about.

            2. DesigNate   2 months ago

              They showed they knew how to do it when the peasants got all upity about the lockdowns earlier that year.

      2. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        I got you, babe.

      3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        I've got you babe!

    4. Marshal   2 months ago

      Again we see sarc's bias. Dems argue not only should rioters not be arrested, they shouldn't even be stopped. Naturally when faced with this sarc's only concern is how he can redirect criticism away from Dems and onto Reps and libertarians.

      Seems balanced.

      1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        Dems argue not only should rioters not be arrested, they shouldn’t even be stopped

        I don’t know who said that, but it wasn’t me. And for the billionth time I’m not a fucking Democrat. Nor am I a Republican.

        The difference between me and you Trump defenders is that I draw the distinction between protester and rioter based upon what a person does, while you draw the distinction based upon what political party you feel the person belong to.

        Naturally when faced with this sarc’s only concern is how he can redirect criticism away from Dems and onto Reps and libertarians.

        Says the guy who screams “DEMOCRATS!!!!” whenever anyone criticizes Trump or his minions.

        1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

          Poor, pour sarc.

        2. Marshal   2 months ago

          I don’t know who said that, but it wasn’t me.

          I didn't say you said it, why the lie? Do you not realize lying about such obviously stupid shit hurts your credibility? Do you think you get it back by just claiming to be principled when everyone can recognize you are not? I reference the Dems position which you ignore because attacking cons and libertarians is your only purpose.

          The difference between me and you Trump defenders is that I draw the distinction between protester and rioter based upon what a person does,

          This is an obvious lie since you defended long sentences for non-violent J6 protesters. Amusingly all we are doing is demanding the left apply to them the same principles you profess to apply to BLM and this sends you into a frothing rage. The very idea of consistency enrages you and you still pretend to be principled. I love the delusion of it all, as if the rest of us are somehow precluded from recognizing reality if you announce something different. Your fantasies remain your own.

          Says the guy who screams “DEMOCRATS!!!!” whenever anyone criticizes Trump or his minions.

          Says the guy who examines how their principles, including yours, change when the rioters switch from BLM to J6 to anti-ICE. I'm shocked to see you change your supposed "principles" in exact movement with the change in rioters. That's why it's so amusing you still pretend you have consistent principles despite the fact that you have literally never applied the standards you use to criticize cons and libertarians to yourself or your allies.

          1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            You have a vivid imagination and a lot of hatred in your veins.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

              You’re a drunk, retarded leftist.

            2. Marshal   2 months ago

              You've extended your perfect record of reaching conclusions completely unsupported by anything other than what you wish were true.

              1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                Whatever you say. I stopped reading your comment because you obviously believe I'm the liar when I contradict what others say about me, which means you're arguing in bad faith. So there's no point in conversing with you.

                1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                  You stopped reading because reality hurts your precious feelings.

                2. Marshal   2 months ago

                  You stop responding because you finally accept that your responses are ineffective. This is because I am right, you are wrong, and we both know it.

          2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

            He thinks immigrants do not have to follow immigration law if they find the law immoral.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              So true. Have that link as well. And it shows he doesn't understand destiny what morality even means.

            2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

              And he compared getting laid off to getting raped...since you can get over it (they "will be fine in time").

              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                That one was wild. And bookmarked it.

        3. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

          Bitch, you’re ’not a Democrat ‘ to an even lesser extent than Bernie Sanders.

        4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          This remains false. You cheered the 5 years against a guy whose only “violence” was putting feet on Pelosi desk. You defended use of a 20 year charge even against non violent J6ers. And yes I have the link and you fucking know it.

          Fucking lying leftist shit.

          1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

            To be fair, the Geneva Convention did ban the war-crime of putting feet on opponents' desks. It's right up there with genocide and torture.

    5. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

      Sorry you drunken cunt. Your party is engaged in open rebellion. Trump has a lot of legal authority to put that rebellion down.

  12. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    You sent your troops here without fuel, food, water or a place to sleep.

    This is what happens when troops deploy to third world areas run by maxist dictators.

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      Trump has already trashed Amendments IV, V, and XIV, and has promised to trash Amendment XXII.

      Why not trash Amendment III while he's at it?

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        More things you don’t understand.

        And why aren't my post just grey boxes? I need to try harder I guess.

        1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

          Pssst!
          Sarc mutes nobody.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            This.

            The game is to make him so angry he claims he unmuted you as he rage posts a reply.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

              Sarc seems to believe that muting someone or claiming to mute someone is a flex of some kind, giving him power over his muting target. It’s a load of shit as we can respond to him even if he claims we’re all gray boxes.

        2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          More things you don’t understand.

          I understand that you and the other Trump defenders truly believe that the Constitution only applies when convenient, and that any violation of it or any other law is justified because DEMOCRATS AAUUGGHH!

          So why not force Californians to quarter troops? They’re all Democrats anyway. According to you guys the Constitution doesn’t because DEMOCRATS AAUUGGHH!

          And why aren’t my post just grey boxes? I need to try harder I guess.

          You matured after middle school.

          1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

            So why not force Californians to quarter troops?

            That’s not happening.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Facts dont matter to leftists. Just narratives.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                And feelz.

          2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            What is he violating? Be specific. Quote actual law.

          3. Peter McCray   2 months ago

            Why are you lying? What violations?
            He hasn't trashed a single amendment.

            1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

              Amendment IV requires warrants. ICE doesn't use warrants to invade homes and arrest people.

              Amendment V requires due process. Trump ignores due process rights.

              Amendment XIV grants birthright citizenship and reiterates due process rights. Trump ignores birthright citizenship and due process rights.

              Amendment XXII limits the president to two terms. Trump and his defenders want him to be el presidente por vida.

              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                Ice agents had warrants. Lie one.

                Every illegal has been given due process, ignorance of law is not an argument. Lie two.

                Jus soli is not a right, not based on the xiv, and had been in question since it passed with multiple other legal actions taken later that disprove your claim. Lie 3.

                No violation has occurred based on your very own post. Lie 4.

                Try harder libtard.

                Broad declarations from ignorance is not an argument.

                1. Peter McCray   2 months ago

                  I'm just going to repost this guy's response, as you claim to not be able to see it, and if so, are unaware of the asskicking these people are giving you.

                  Ice agents had warrants. Lie one.

                  Every illegal has been given due process, ignorance of law is not an argument. Lie two.

                  Jus soli is not a right, not based on the xiv, and had been in question since it passed with multiple other legal actions taken later that disprove your claim. Lie 3.

                  No violation has occurred based on your very own post. Lie 4.

                  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                    He doesn't mute anyone. He saw it lol.

                  2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                    I don’t give a shit what he says. He’s a liar who argues in bad faith. When his lies are pointed out he always doubles down on them, and he deliberately misinterprets what people say. Responding to him is a waste of brain cells, and anyone who believes what he says has no brain cells to waste. So stick his comment up your ass. I’m not going to play your middle-school game.

                    1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

                      Ha Ha! “I got my fingers in my ears, I can’t hear you!”

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

                      So sayeth the King of Projection.

                    3. Peter McCray   2 months ago

                      And I'm going to repost this guy's response: "Ha Ha! “I got my fingers in my ears, I can’t hear you!”

                      But nevertheless, no he's not lying. You are. Everything he wrote can be and is verified.

                    4. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                      No, he is lying.

                      ICE is indeed invading homes without warrants, and Trump defenders say it’s ok because they’re wanted by administrative courts which don’t have to follow the Constitution.

                      While illegals have had due process with regards to being deported, they did not get any with regards to being put in prison indefinitely. So he’s lying again.

                      The Constitution clearly states that children of people subject to US law are citizens. Everyone in the country except Trump and his dishonest defenders understands this.

                      Everything Jesse says is a lie. I used to break his comments down phrase by phrase, pointing out how it was all lies, and I’ve never once seen him make a truthful statement. Nor has he ever admitted to his lies. That’s why I ignore the dumb fuck. He's incapable of honesty and all his arguments are in bad faith. Responding him is a lot of work and a complete waste of time.

                    5. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

                      I called it, declares any responder that rebuts his drunken claims as a liar and dismisses them. Beckie he has no response.

                      Fucking retarded drunken democrat clown.

                    6. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                      What lies?

                      These lies?

                      ICE is indeed invading homes without warrants, and Trump defenders say it’s ok because they’re wanted by administrative courts which don’t have to follow the Constitution.

                      Or this one?

                      The Constitution clearly states that children of people subject to US law are citizens. Everyone in the country except Trump and his dishonest defenders understands this.

                      Your broad declarations don’t make a truth. I can and have linked yo you scholars on both sides who state it isn’t clear.

                      Again. Argument from YOUR ignorance isn’t truth.

                      And then another lie.

                      Everything Jesse says is a lie. I used to break his comments down phrase by phrase, pointing out how it was all lies, and I’ve never once seen him make a truthful statement.

                      Your breakdowns included mo actual facts or citations. Just you screaming nuh uh. They weren't break downs. They were denials.

              2. DesigNate   2 months ago

                If they have a standing deportation order, no warrant is necessary to pick them up and ship them out.

                If they’re have a standing deportation order, they have received their due process for illegally entering the country.

                As I noted earlier, there has been honest debate on birthright citizenship for as long as I’ve been posting here.

            2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Who are you gonna believe? Reality or Rachel Maddow?

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

                Knowing Sarc, he’ll believe Maddow first. He doesn’t exactly have a firm grasp on reality.

          4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            Poor sarcbot.

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        How?

        Reminder. Your ignorance of basically anything isn't an actual argument.

      3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Lmao, you think they were sleeping in people’s houses? Fucking dumbass.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Sarc is fully retarded. Repeating Maddow left and right. He finally backtracked from his cries of disappearing people.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      Food? The roach coach is around the corner.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        With such a gathering of immigrants and their fans, there must be a million food trucks in LA right now.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      As indicated above, no food, no water, and a place to sleep is a step up from "burning Hellscape".

  13. Randy Sax   2 months ago

    Twitter-famous (and somewhat widely reviled) "menswear guy" admitted he's here illegally (in a pretty good post).

    What do you need a menswear influencer for?
    T-shirts are all free, various clubs, fun runs, clubs, work events, etc.
    A good pair of jeans will last ~10 years. Same for casual boots.
    Work boots come from vouchers at work.
    All socks and underwear also free, from grandma, aunt, mom at xmas.

    1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

      It seems like a good idea to announce on the internet you are breaking the law.
      What could go wrong?

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Minnesota State Rep might just find out...family committed fraud on paperwork..."I am illegal in this country, my parents are illegal here in this country"

        https://x.com/GrageDustin/status/1932133770506981552

        BREAKING: A Minnesota State Representative just admitted to being an illegal immigrant on the MN House Floor just now.

        [video of her floor speech]

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Wait, is there a judge willing to sneak her out of the building?

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

          Then she should resign or be expelled from the chamber.

          1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

            I understand that would give GOP a majority in the State House, it's a 67-67 split at the moment.

  14. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Seems that Venezuela and Maduro's regime is using armed gangs to invade other countries, too, and not just the US.

    Gunfire and gold: How Venezuela is using criminal gangs in border conflict with Guyana

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/gunfire-and-gold-how-venezuela-is-using-criminal-gangs-in-border-conflict-with-guyana/ar-AA1GeLEt

    But the rapid succession of assaults has fueled mounting fears that the regime of Nicolás Maduro is using criminal proxies to destabilize the long-disputed region.

    Analysts and Guyanese officials increasingly see the attacks not as isolated gang violence, but as part of a broader, state-sanctioned campaign. A newly released report by InSight Crime argues that Venezuela is forging a dangerous alliance between organized crime and political ambition to assert control over the Essequibo.

    "Maduro has long used allied criminal groups, with whom he operates symbiotically under his hybrid state, to achieve his goals," the report states. These groups, it adds, "with strong connections to Venezuela's government and a shared interest in profitable gold mining, could have significant incentives to back Maduro's claim to Essequibo."

    The criminal infiltration is not new. Since the creation in 2016 of the Orinoco Mining Arc - a huge area in Venezuela set apart by the regime for mining operations - illegal mining and organized crime have flourished in the southern part of the country, often with military protection. These groups control mining, smuggling routes, taxation systems, and even forced labor in Bolívar state. Now, their model appears to be expanding across the border into Essequibo.

    Guyanese officials say cross-border incursions have surged since 2022, with some frontier zones effectively under the control of foreign criminal networks. The consequences stretch beyond security. Gold smuggling is on the rise, fueling concerns over laundering and evasion of international sanctions.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Wait. But we've been told there are zero connections between Maduro and Venezuelan gangs despite all the evidence because anonymous deep state IC officials said nuh uh.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Just ask Sean Penn.

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          he cried like my sister when he and Timothy Hutton got caught.

    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      Unless I see some official IDs I’m not buying it.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

      For reference, this is over half of Guyana’s territory, west of Georgetown, the capital, that’s been claimed by and coveted by Venezuela for about two centuries.

  15. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    Gavin Newsom, has objected to these deployments, saying this is escalatory and a violation of state sovereignty.

    Big talk from the guy who demands every other state bend the knee to Cali.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      That's a (D)ifferent (D)ouble standard.

      1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

        Yes, you fucking moron, objecting to Trump illegal deploying troops is the same as CA wanting cleaner car exhaust.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          Man, Molly is worked up today. Name calling, and you can practically feel the spittle flying as she demands the people be executed.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            Probably that time of the month.

          2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            It is quite fun watching commie scum tard-rage.

          3. Marshal   2 months ago

            you can practically feel the spittle flying

            Desperation has that effect. She knows leftists are showing their true selves and voters will remember it.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          What's illegal? Why do you disagree with the Berkley law dean?

        3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          MG.
          Is.
          Full.
          Of.
          Shit.
          Fuck off and die, shitstain.

        4. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

          You’re such a sweetie. How about you go suck on some of that same car exhaust. Preferably within an enclosed space.

          1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

            Tony should definitely commit suicide.

        5. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

          Tony, your party is done. This is open rebellion. Now e have a legal pretext to destroy the democrat party and start putting all you Marxist traitors in prison where you belong.

  16. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Perfect example of AWFLness...

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/06/06/we-need-to-talk-about-the-burqa/

    We saw a good example of this liberal-elite attitude towards ethnic minorities just this week. In a debate on ITV’s Good Morning Britain, Muslim commentator and spiked columnist Rakib Ehsan defended the act of burning a Koran on the grounds of freedom of speech. Former Labour adviser Scarlett McGwire, a white, non-Muslim woman debating Ehsan, proceeded to criticise his position, saying that there should be no right to burn the Koran because of its impact on Muslims. This perfectly illustrates the liberal-elite mindset, one that reduces minorities to their most conservative, intolerant spokesmen.

    1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

      The nazis burned books first, so it’s ok!

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Any AWFL cunt who defends conservative Islam needs to move immediately to Saudi. Or maybe Afghanistan.

    2. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      Former Labour adviser Scarlett McGwire, a white, non-Muslim woman debating Ehsan, proceeded to criticise his position, saying that there should be no right to burn the Koran because of its impact on Muslims.

      Also banned, being a meanie and hurting my feelings. Can't have chicks in charge.

    3. Marshal   2 months ago

      According to the left "brown" people can't be expected to learn control their behavior.

  17. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. just fired the entire 17-member Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP), which reports its findings to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, "to avoid conflicts of interest" and to "restore public trust in vaccines."

    The ACIP has a 1st amendment right to lie to the CDC and the public!!!!

    You know that is how it will be framed.

    1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      No, it is being (properly) framed as an anti-vax nut firing vaccine experts because he does not care about the health of the US.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        MG.
        Is.
        Full.
        Of.
        Shit.
        Fuck off and die, steaming pile of lefty shit.

      2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

        You do realize even the WHO and Pfizer are saying the mRNA vaxxes are dangerous now, right?

        No? You don't have a thought in your head that ActBlue doesn't put there for you.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          I didn't see anything from WHO, but the FDA said something recently.

          https://abcnews.go.com/Health/safety-efficacy-mrna-vaccines-amid-recent-scrutiny/story?id=122068940

          Over the last several days, the safety and efficacy of messenger RNA, or mRNA, vaccines have come under intense scrutiny.

          On Tuesday, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced plans to limit access to future COVID-19 shots -- two of which are mRNA vaccines -- to those aged 65 and older or with high-risk conditions. The agency will require further scientific trials to greenlight the shots for younger age groups.

          The agency also sent letters to both Moderna and Pfizer last month telling them to expand the warning labels on their mRNA COVID-19 vaccines to broaden the people who may be impacted by the risk of heart inflammation as a possible side effect.

      3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        “vaccine experts”

        You mean these guys:

        “ACIP meeting in 2018.

        I can’t believe this is real.”

        https://x.com/calleymeans/status/1932402032662503481

        I’m starting to wonder if you’re being retarded on purpose at this point.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      They should face a firing squad

  18. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    Seriously Liz. Your child is being raised by a retarded cunt.
    Rfk Jr should have every single hhs employee thrown in prison. Just firing them is not nearly harsh enough.
    You bitch about not being allowed to take your kid to the park because "experts" closed it down. How come you didn't "trust the experts" then?

  19. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    deeming Bannon a ‘Communist retard.'”

    ER Musk is right

    1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

      Are they trying to frame Bannon as a hero now?

  20. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

    Or where the deployed troops should sleep:

    WHERE WILL THEY SLEEP?! Says no one with any actual experience in, or knowledge of, the Marine Corps. Ever flown in the cargo hold of a C17 across the Atlantic? This is how you sleep. On the floor, back-to-back, using each other as pillows, etc. Stop pretending you know anything about being a Marine. Bad Liz.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      ""WHERE WILL THEY SLEEP?! Says no one with any actual experience in, or knowledge of, the Marine Corps.""

      No shit. It's where I learned to sleep anywhere.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Sarc knows how also. Wherever he passes out.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        No offense, but you don’t have to be a Marine to sleep anywhere.

        “Where will they sleep?” is an exceptionally (even disgustingly) fragile, urban, social elite-of-the-elitest 1st world AWFL take.

        On more than one occasion, I’ve had to chase my kids away from sleeping in the dirt beside a camp fire.

        As an adult, on more than one occasion, I've had aches or pains for a couple of days as the result of injury or overuse, slept on a concrete floor with my boots or clothes as a pillow, and woken up pain free.

        Might as well ask how anyone sleeps with anything less than 1000 thread count sheets.

        1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

          Might as well ask how anyone sleeps with anything less than 1000 thread count scented sheets.

          Don’t be an animal.

        2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

          "“Where will they sleep?” is an exceptionally (even disgustingly) fragile, urban, social elite-of-the-elitest 1st world AWFL take."

          Precisely. Any adult male that hasn't had the soul (and testosterone) sucked out of him sees this as a whiney, progressive, feminized beta bullshit take that it is.

          1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

            So no male in San Francisco sees this?

        3. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

          No offense, but you don’t have to be a Marine to sleep anywhere.

          That's true. But being a Marine (or other deployed unit, can't forget about our Corpsmen/Guardsmen/Army-of-One hoo-hahs) means that you will have to sleep anywhere. No matter what the conditions. Flash flood in late March in Iraq? Yup, still outside in your foxhole. Or maybe squished together in the back of an uncovered 5-ton, sitting on full sandbags since there's no armored/anti-IED vehicles in country. Or, under 5-tons to get out of the sun, while waiting for nightfall to carry on with the convoy. Or, in some random goat-herder's mud-hut as it nearly shakes apart from extremely nearby explosions. Sleeping on a cot, in a tent, in Kuwait, after having surgery was 4 star luxury accommodations.

          You can sleep on the floor, if you want. Same same. 😉

          1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

            I had to literally sleep in several of the scenarios you mentioned when I was in Desert Storm. Not great, but it was far from horrible.

            1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

              Yeah, you get used to it, because you have to.

              1. Stuck in California   2 months ago

                The "no place to sleep" isn't even the stupidest part of Newsome's shitposting. He acts like they're deploying from across the country, to someplace like Gaza. "Your" troops, "no food" etc.

                29 palms is only 3 hours away by freeway. (Pendelton is 2 hours away). All of these Marines are based in Southern California and should have zero problems with logistical support.

                The whole rest of LA is just going to work today, so it seems like it shouldn't be hard for Californians, away from their homes in California, protecting a federal building in California to be fed pretty fucking easily, just like ten million other Californians in Los Angeles who aren't part of the Act Blue protests.

                If it's just too difficult for someone to deliver Chipotle, a truck with MREs could be there in hours.

                Not sure how Newsome thinks this wins him fans outside of San Francisco and Los Angeles. If he thinks he's building support for a Presidential campaign, he's wrong.

        4. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

          "No offense, but you don’t have to be a Marine to sleep anywhere."

          Absolutely true, and no offense.

          1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

            Not taking offense at innocuous comments has me questioning your Marine credentials!

            –I kid, I kid.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      You will find that Liz is what's known as controlled opposition. Unlike bohem, sullum, kmw, enb, Welch, gillespe, and Fiona who are all straight up anti American marxist

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Go back and read her articles in the Federalist back when she lived in Texas. If you want to see happens when your inundated by NYC shitlibs every day you can see the difference in the writing.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

          So... Controlled opposition now. Got it

        2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          You can see the difference in her writing just from when she took over the Roundup.

      2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        "Liz is what’s known as controlled opposition"

        She has some good moments, but you can only go to so many SoHo election-watch cocktail parties with Welchie boy and ENB before it influences you.

        In NYC, the furthest right person she encounters is probably an avid pro-choice voter that just feels icky about the 3rd trimester.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          But is definitely for rent control.

    3. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      Sure we expect them to be tough as nails, and one of the most badass and fearsome fighting forces in the world, but their kryptonite is not having a blanky and pillow, apparently

      1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        Rolled up trousers make for great pillows, but you better keep your grubby paws away from my blankie (poncho liner). This is my woobie, there are many like it, but this one is mine.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Rolled up trousers make for great pillows, but you better keep your grubby paws away from my blankie (poncho liner).

          The clean pair of trousers are mine. You're free to sleep on the pair that I spent the day dragging through the poison ivy though.

          1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

            Clean trousers? Damn, look at you Queen of the field.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    "The people who are causing the problems are bad people, they are insurrectionists," the president told a group of reporters Monday.

    God, I love these pendulum swings.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

      No, no, insurrectionists "parade" and "trespass" and watch FBI agents break windows. Not firebomb neighborhoods.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        3 days of riots is always better than 3 hours.

  22. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    It’s hard to say how much this actually changes things or how worried you should be…

    JFC Liz! Worried .gov isn’t going to protect you? How libertarian of you.
    #trusttheexperts

  23. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    Yes we can have cheap protein, kill all of the antihuman vegan cancers and get rid of everything they think is good

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      I'm not eating that seed oil feed shit.

    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

      Gross. Do you even know where they've been?

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      If you want a PR job with the Soylent corporation, you have to be a little more cheerful.

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      I heard a snippet on the radio today that informed me that Diet Pepsi is NOT vegan...seems to be true...

      https://vegetarian-vacations.com/why-is-diet-pepsi-not-vegan/

  24. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Some would try to explain this away by blaming misinformation or antiscience attitudes. To do so, however, ignores a history of conflicts of interest, persecution of dissidents, a lack of curiosity, and skewed science that has plagued the vaccine regulatory apparatus for decades.

    Prove him wrong.

  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'There's no waiting period and physicians aren't required to fill out reports to state authorities'

    What if you want to kill yourself with a new gun?

    1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

      Guns are bad, mkay?

    2. Dillinger   2 months ago

      isn't one of the T family offering them online now?

  26. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The last-minute series of appointments seems to have been intended to preserve a pro-vaccine majority on ACIP heading into a potential shift like the one we're seeing now. But Biden may not have taken into account the degree to which the Trump administration prefers to move fast and break things.

    I guess technically you can break things that were already broken.

  27. Minadin   2 months ago

    "Some of these now-dismissed ACIP appointees had been selected by former President Joe Biden in January."

    By former President Joe Biden's handlers / staff.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      What? - Joe Biden

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Was Otto Penn involved?

      1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        Yes. Before I retired to be a simple Maryland man, I was Commander in Chief between 2021-2025.

  28. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "Waymos don't have human drivers, they're devoid of humanity"

    You know what else is devoid of humanity?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Marxists?

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        If only they could be stopped with traffic cones like waymo taxis.

      2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        There ARE some good Marxists, but they’re all dead.

    2. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      Hollows?

    3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Pedophiles?

      Oh. Someone already said Marxists.

    4. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Drunks?

      1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        Sarc is living drunken proof of that.

    5. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

      Waymo’s are the Marxist wet dream. They are completely dependent on the state for their existence, crowdsourced, lacking all individualism, do whatever they are told, and never complain, even when you completely degrade them or light them on fire. Added bonus – they unfailingly surveil their surroundings 24 hours a day and have zero compunctions about dropping the dime on anyone.

      A Waymo is the Marxist epitome of humanity.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

        Sorry, but the less time I have to spend with 70% of cabbies, the better.

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          in America I'm not certain you are required to spend any time with cabbies.

    6. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

      State funded babysitters?

    7. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      The Sleestak?

    8. Moonrocks   2 months ago

      My ex?

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        I come home one day and the house is empty, and I mean completely empty. She even took the ice cube trays out of the freezer. What kind of a sick bitch takes the ice cube trays out of the freezer?

  29. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'An average US worker used to be able to get 12 eggs for 6 minutes of work. Now it's over 10.'

    An average US worker used to be able to produce something worth 12 eggs. But the market for DEI consulting has cratered.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      are you saying the 5th fat-positivity and inclusivity consultant at my company isn't producing anything of value?!

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        My favorite fat inclucivity are the ones over 60.

      2. Randy Sax   2 months ago

        Unless you work at Hasbro, making Hungry Hungry Hippos.

        1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

          Some of the DEI hires have been busy ruining Dungeons and Dragons. Orcs now look like Mexican butchers lesbians, or are trannies.

  30. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    Meanwhile, in Colorado:

    Gov. Polis vetoes 11 bills, a personal record

    Colorado Gov. Jared Polis signed 476 bills approved by the Colorado Legislature this year and vetoed 11 measures, a record for him.

    So Gov. McDreamy only approved 98% of the crap produced by our Let's out-California State Legislature.

    BTW, what the fuck do we need with 500 more laws each year?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Marxist gonna marx

    2. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      BTW, what the fuck do we need with 500 more laws each year?

      Sounds like you need at least one law for common sense law control.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        All laws should come with a seven day waiting period before voting on them.

        1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

          What, and give the legislators time to READ the bills before voting on them?

          I guess that's one newfangled idea to finding out what's in the bills.

    3. Dillinger   2 months ago

      statewide ban of snowboarders yet?

    4. DesigNate   2 months ago

      Over/under on the 11 he vetoed being too “conservative”.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        More than likely. Of course, what should one expect from Governor McDreamy.

  31. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

    Leftists were stupid enough to declare protest to be insurrection and are now frightened that their tactics and rules of engagement will be used against them. fuck them all. Every last one deserves charges for insurrection/sedition.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      And, according to Molly, execution.

    2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

      It’s beyond insurrection. The democrats are increasingly engaged in open rebellion.

  32. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    >He's giving himself legal room, and he's already made clear he loves using statutes from the 18th and 19th centuries, meant for times of war

    Yeah, except this stuff dates up until the Civil Rights Era - you know, the 1960's.

  33. Ajsloss   2 months ago

    You sent your troops here without fuel, food, water or a place to sleep.

    I know someone with connections at the French Laundry, so food shouldn't be a problem.

    1. Dogvalor   2 months ago

      They may have to settle for champagne instead of water though.

  34. JohnZ   2 months ago

    If you dig deep enough you will find the tiny hats behind this. Of course they have already sent out feelers that Trump allowed all this to happen to justify increased police militarism.
    The tiny hats are determined to destroy every civilized society in return for a new world order led by the tiny hats.
    "The first stage requires the elimination of all frontier borders, nationhood and culture, public policy, ethical barriers and social definitions, only then can the destroyed old system elements be replaced by the imposed system elements of our new world order.
    The first task of our world revolution is destruction."
    Nahum Goldman, Founder and president of the World Jewish Congress, 1947 to 1978, from his book, "The Spirit of Militarism" pages 37-38.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Gee! Another steaming pile of Nazi shit!
      Fuck off and die, asshole.

  35. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Selfie flotilla update...

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/greta-thunbergs-brazilian-flotilla-buddy-attended-funeral-hezbollah-leader-hassan-nasrallah

    Greta Thunberg’s Brazilian Flotilla Buddy Attended Funeral Of Hezbollah Leader Hassan Nasrallah

    Thiago Ávila has called Israeli hostages “prisoners” and mourned Hassan Nasrallah as a “martyr.”

    Ávila has highlighted his interactions with terrorists, including posting a photo of himself meeting with Leila Khaled—a former member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) who hijacked a civilian airliner in 1969. Jerusalem Post reporter Michael Starr shared a screenshot from Ávila’s Instagram story of the meeting where he said she is one of the people he “most admire[s] in the entire world.”

    In February, Ávila widely shared his attendance at Nasrallah’s funeral, posting interviews where he said Nasrallah “shines” as a figure who was “thinking about liberation of the entire world.” In another video, he called Nasrallah a “martyr” who inspires people “all over the world.”

    In the days after Hamas’ massacre, rape, and kidnapping of Israeli civilians, Ávila criticized UN Secretary General António Guterres for calling for the immediate release of the hostages, calling them instead “prisoners” and advocating for them to be exchanged for Palestinian prisoners.

    1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

      Can we just drone strike Thunberg’s flotilla during her Hezbollah visits.

  36. mad.casual   2 months ago

    It will probably take a long time for school immunization schedules to drastically change, and parents’ decisions will probably continue to roughly track those requirements; but it is also possible that a new ACIP could overhaul all of this, give parents worse recommendations for how to vaccinate their children that lead to cyclical outbreaks (like measles), or that a showdown could take place where school districts and the federal government are at odds as to what requirements ought to exist.

    Huh? Striking down he ACIP could cause it to come back more powerful than it was before? Shouldn’t doctors be giving parents recommendations on how to vaccinate their children? If there’s a conflict between school districts and the federal government, shouldn’t libertarians solve the issue by abolishing the Department of Education?

    This is some, “Go back and try 3rd grade reading comprehension again.”-level “I know! Let’s thwart Federal overreach by giving them *everything* they want.” reactionary stupidity.

  37. Bubba Jones   2 months ago

    I don't twit, but I scrolled through "menswear guy."

    How thin skinned do you have to be to revile him? Are you stupid?

  38. Z Crazy   2 months ago

    They should be called Laken Riley brigades.

  39. bye   2 months ago

    all sources this morning are saying that the rioters melted away.
    Trump wins and Liz's attempt to write that thermonuclear-award-winning takedown just went to shit

  40. Jerry B.   2 months ago

    Nice of Liz to admit that there are actually riots in LA. Hope she doesn’t get into too much trouble.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      "riots and protests" probably keeps Binion from whining at her too but there aren't any protests, so ...

  41. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    The irony is strong in this one...

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mexican-president-responds-to-la-riots/ss-AA1GnsCn

    Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum fanned the flames of the ongoing riots in Los Angeles , calling Mexican migrants living the US 'heroes' while blasting the immigration polices of President Trump. Violent clashes broke out in LA after dozens of undocumented migrants were arrested Friday in raids carried out by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers.

    'We disagree with this approach to the migration phenomenon,' Sheinbaum said during a press conference Sunday afternoon in San Andrés Cholula, Puebla. 'It's not about raids or violence, but rather working on a comprehensive reform that takes into account the Mexicans on the other side of the border,' she added.

    'Mexicans living in the United States are good, honest men and women who left to seek a better life for themselves and to support their families,' she said at her press conference. 'They are not criminals.' The president also lauded the contributions of Mexicans in the Los Angeles area.

    'The United States is what it is thanks also to the work of our fellow Mexicans who live across the border.' Sheinbaum also welcomed Mexican migrants back with open arms if they wish to return while urging protesters to remain calm.

    1. JohnZ   2 months ago

      Time for regime change and nation building for Mehico ala American style.

      1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        Really. I’m so sick of Mexico’s hypocritical bullshit.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Hmm, I wonder where the Marines should go next.

    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      So we have the president of Mexico offering support to Mexicans here illegally to stay here and resist the government, and now the president of the Mexican senate making a claim that the SE US belongs to Mexico. I wonder if there’s a word for this:

      “President of the Mexican Senate (TODAY):

      "We'll build the wall and pay for it. But we'll do it according to the 1830 map of Mexico... Mexicans were settled in these territories before the U.S. The Mexicans living there are in what has always been their homeland."

      https://x.com/upholdreality/status/1932151480250974289

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        This is a war:

        “They're launching mortar rounds,
        @GavinNewsom”

        https://x.com/shellenberger/status/1932452337446183202

        1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

          The democrats ar engaged in open rebellion. Any participating should be rounded up and tried for treason.

          Give them the ‘due process’ they crave.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        We could compromise...give them back California.

  42. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "...So this might explain Trump's use of insurrectionist language..."

    Well, it's a hell of lot closer than the 1/6 protest.

    1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

      Now we have the 6/5 democrat rebellion.

  43. bobby oshea   2 months ago

    Jesus Mary and Joseph.

    Ok. so, clearly no one at the Reason organization has ever served in the Armed Forces. Probably some Peace Corps folks though.

    Troops taking a nap in a makeshift area is normal. They were probably happy to be indoors in the AC rather than out in a hot dusty field.

    Just incredible lack of awareness. Complete inexperience with actual reality. Willingness to relay the silly propaganda.

  44. JohnZ   2 months ago

    First of all, the marines should be given live ammo, locked and loaded. Oak billy clubs would also help, would make a big difference in handling these anarchist rioters. Use plenty of tear gas and other such treatments such as lots of flash bangs and stun grenades.
    Of course Trump could bring in the 82nd Airborne with tanks and .50 ca. machine guns like they did during the Detroit riots in 1967.

    1. Don't look at me! (I have soft power)   2 months ago

      Biden threatened to use F-15’s on citizens.

      1. JohnZ   2 months ago

        Indeed, and not a single one of the MSM ever said anything.

  45. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    This is literally what a defensive territorial war is. Invaders being asked to leave and starting a fight with the territorial government in order to claim ownership/rights to it.

    Something Democrats (Newsom and Reason Magazine) literally begged to happen with their "Don't stop an invasion - open borders" narratives.

  46. NoVaNick   2 months ago

    Newsome should be thanking Trump. Data from the 2020 election show that democrats lost votes in cities which had violent BLM protests.

  47. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>So this might explain Trump's use of insurrectionist language:

    I didn't see a mention of GHWB calling in military in 1992 using insurrectionist language

  48. damikesc   2 months ago

    ""There's no intention to arrest" California's governor, Homan backtracked yesterday."

    Grand. God awful Liz today.

    He did not backtrack anything.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

      That's probably one of KMWs edits.

      1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        Reason actually edits the shit they publish? I had no idea.

        Really.

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          cannot possibly be true.

    2. JohnZ   2 months ago

      I would get such a giggle watching Newscum being arrested.
      Not so sure but I believe there have been past governors not to mention mayors who fell out with the law.
      Newscum and Bass, both being highly incompetent and worthless as governor and mayor need removing.

  49. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Committee members regularly participated in deliberations and advocated products in which they had a financial stake

    if true, summary termination of employment apt.

  50. damikesc   2 months ago

    "Twitter-famous (and somewhat widely reviled) "menswear guy" admitted he's here illegally (in a pretty good post). Now J.D. Vance is responding with memes implying he's going to deport him:"

    Person confesses to a crime. "Libertarian" (not anarchist, allegedly) says they should not be penalized for committing a crime.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      I don't mind the no borders talk but I'd prefer the peace head south as opposed to the war coming north

  51. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Or where the deployed troops should sleep

    do Marines sleep or just rest with their eyes open between assignments?

    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      Marines are taught to sleep (and eat, and perform weapons maintenance, and change their socks, not necessarily in that order) anytime they have the chance.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        makes sense.

      2. JohnZ   2 months ago

        Gomer Pyle objects to that insult. "Shazzamm!"

  52. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Inside Peru's gang-driven crime wave

    the guy on Shawn Ryan's recent podcast talking about Peru is fascinating but I'm only half-finished

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      Some may say Peru needs gun control laws.

  53. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>WILL WE EVER HAVE CHEAP EGGS AGAIN

    fuck you regular eggs are cheap again and high quality eggs are affordable again

    1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

      In Spokane, a dozen eggs have dropped from $5.23 a dozen in February, to $2.72 as of yesterday.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        exactly. yesterday I overpaid exactly what I expected to overpay for a nicer dozen.

  54. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>And yesterday, the state sued the Trump administration over its deployment of state troops and U.S. Marines

    expect immediate nationwide injunction re: deployment of state troops and US Marines.

  55. GroundTruth   2 months ago

    Trump is playing into the hands of the lefties on this. He should just let Newsom handle it a bit longer without help then if it starts to become unmanageable, send in troops. But this circus is just escalation for the sake of having something to see.

    Worth a read:

    https://www.cato.org/commentary/voters-wanted-immigration-enforcement-not#

    And from the Walls Street Journal today:

    "After deportations fell short of Trump's campaign promises, federal agents summoned to a meeting in Washington were told to 'just to go our there and arrest illegal aliens'"... then the story goes on to say that the suggestion was to just start going to Home Depot and grabbing anyone who looked to fit the part.

    This is just to make a scene and grab some headlines. Kamala would have been worse, but this is just chaos for the sake of chaos.

    1. JohnZ   2 months ago

      I believe you have something there. Trump remains out of the scene, allows greasy Gavin to continue to ignore the violence until it becomes so out of control that even he will beg for help. By then the rest of L.A. will have been burned to the ground and then Trump would tell Newsom to fix it himself. Not a single dime from the taxpayers.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        I agree, by inserting himself too quickly, Trump missed the chance to REALLY get points as a savior when Newsom, Bass, et al. all failed.

    2. Rick James   2 months ago

      I suggested yesterday that the T-Rump should enact a 'remain in California' policy for illegal immigrants.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        I like this plan.

  56. BioBehavioral_View   2 months ago

    The Truth As Predicted 15 Years Ago

    Excerpt from the novel, Inescapable Consequences (2009):

    The President recalled events in Los Angeles following his fourth talk to the nation. Leaders of El Pueblo hastily but quietly had organized a “public protest” to arise “spontaneously” downtown, march along Wilshire Boulevard through Santa Monica, then end with a rally at the Pacific Ocean in the park by the pier. The leaders had neglected to request permits. Tens of thousands, most with swarthy complexions, gathered. The “protestors” chanted in unison, “Viva México!” and “Muerte á Kent!” Many waved flags; Mexican flags. The Mayor, of Mexican heritage, summoned the police into action with orders to disperse the mob peaceably, claiming that notification of the military would constitute a “disproportionate response”. The LAPD was trying its best when snipers, placed strategically in several buildings, fired their rifles at the men in blue. With the first shots, the mob began fleeing in all directions. Mayhem ruled the moment. The final tally read as follows: “Two ‘protesters’ trampled to death with five injured seriously; three police-officers shot fatally with ten others wounded, three critically.” As ordered, no officer fired even one shot. The District Attorney issued warrants for the arrests of the leaders, but all had fled across the border. The City Council then rescinded the warrants, claiming that the police were at fault, having provoked the violence as a consequence of their “inappropriate and disproportionate” show of force.
    In the aftermath, Mike had questioned President Kent about his intended response. The President replied simply, “It’s their city.”

    These truths and others from half a generation ago, you will find in the novel; e.g. American troops kill 4,000 Panamanians and kidnap their President.

  57. JohnZ   2 months ago

    What exists there are a number of actors including anarchists, Marxists, rent-a-mob and Soros financed activists. The actual violence committed by the Marxists and anarchists with the rent a mobs being used as shields and diversion.
    Certainly, it would not look good if events took a more violent turn and even deadly. Would it be enough to create another such event as took place at Kent State University on May 4, 1970?
    These are not just protests, they are violently dangerous that become out of control without any provocation.
    The damage and destruction to public and private property is leaping into the millions which will worsen if it is not curtailed.
    If it take some bullets, then so be it.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Need a truckload of Zat'nik'tel. Set them on wide beam and light up the whole crowd, then sort them out.

  58. Rick James   2 months ago

    Twitter-famous (and somewhat widely reviled) "menswear guy" admitted he's here illegally (in a pretty good post). Now J.D. Vance is responding with memes implying he's going to deport him:

    If there's any job I can think of that can be done remotely...

  59. Rick James   2 months ago

    Razor's take on how the riots in L.A. are suddenly a thing with the media.

    1. Stuck in California   2 months ago

      Three seconds into that guy's video and I had to shut it off. Fuck is he annoying.

      I should know better than to click on you links. Always some youtube talking head. You should sum up what they say for us, save us the time.

  60. Rick James   2 months ago

    I'm tying again, for the 900th time across the last eight or ten years... why are the protesters waving Mexican flags?

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 months ago

      I suspect this time it is so they don't accidentally get sent to El Salvador.

    2. Minadin   2 months ago

      They switched that up over the weekend, and suddenly started handing out US ones.

  61. Rick James   2 months ago

    So this might explain Trump's use of insurrectionist language: He's giving himself legal room

    You know who else gave him room?

    1. DesigNate   2 months ago

      President Kennedy. And I believe President Truman.

    2. Dillinger   2 months ago

      Eisenhower more than anyone.

  62. awildseaking   2 months ago

    "but an incident from 30 years ago (that was subsequently investigated and rectified) doesn't necessarily mean the whole advisory board should be thrown out or that all of their decision making is invalidated."

    Have you ever served on a corporate board or known someone who has? Board culture is pervasive. Sometimes you have to vote people off the island.

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