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Capitalism

Bernie Sanders: American Success Story

Plus: Habemus papam, deporting grannies, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 5.9.2025 9:41 AM

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Fighting oligarchy from the P.J.: Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.) and I actually have a lot in common: We both think private jets are super cool. The only problem is that he's trying to brand himself as "fighting oligarchy," whereas I have no interest in being a foot soldier in that fight.

Sanders and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.) have been traveling the country doing speaking events and rallies on their "Fighting Oligarchy" tour, which aims to "take on the oligarchs and corporate interests who have so much power and influence in this country."

On Fox's Special Report with Bret Baier, Sanders was asked about his choice of transport. "You run a campaign, and you do three or four or five rallies in a week. [It is] the only way you can get around to talk to 30,000 people. You think I'm going to be sitting on a waiting line at United…while 30,000 people are waiting?" Sanders replied. FEC filings show that Friends of Bernie Sanders, his campaign committee, spent over $221,000 chartering private jets during the first quarter of 2025.

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Sanders—who enjoys a house in Burlington, Vermont, another one in D.C., and a third at Lake Champlain, all of which he says are modest properties—might be part of the very oligarchy he claims to want to smash. He mentions on Lex Fridman's show that he didn't receive some massive inheritance; he grew up poor, but it's his book deals, his royalties, and his $175,000 annual salary that allow him and his wife to afford their homes. He notes that he drives an old car and just has a watch and a wedding ring, but that now they're financially secure such that they don't have to worry about surprise medical bills, which is "enormous" for their family. Good!

What Sanders appears to dislike is vulgar wealth. But what he doesn't understand is that his spending, justify it as he might, probably looks showy to those who are poorer than him. How many Americans have ever been on a private jet or owned a vacation home?

More importantly, what Sanders is describing—his slow crawl up the socioeconomic ladder, due to writing books that people value and want to read and representing ideas that people value and want to circulate and his ability to enjoy the attendant conveniences—is exactly what capitalists like me want more of (though ideally the ideas themselves would be better). If you subtract all the socialism-peddling, Bernie Sanders is an American success story who went from rags to (modest) riches. More of this, please!

Plenty of fellow politicians are beclowning themselves by suggesting that, of course, Sanders has to fly private:

Bernie Sanders is 83 and had to be in multiple states in the same day. In that situation you fly private.

— Andrew Yang????⬆️???????? (@AndrewYang) May 8, 2025

But Sanders and his defenders should ask themselves why this logic applies to politicians but not CEOs making decisions about billion-dollar businesses, which surely generate more economic value than the Fighting Oligarchy tour ever could. By misunderstanding who creates value in our economy (and how), Sanders is showing how ill-suited he is to restructure it. And by making excuses for why he gets to enjoy the spoils of his success, Sanders is showing that, actually, he too believes in the upward-mobility promise of the American dream.

Habemus papam: And he's from the Midwest!

After a very brief conclave, Cardinal Robert Francis Prevost was chosen by his fellow cardinals to be the next pope. He will assume the name Leo XIV. This is the first time an American has ever been elected pope (and also the first time we've had an Augustinian pope).

With Trump's tariffs in effect, we are now making popes in America

— Christian Schneider (@Schneider_CM) May 8, 2025

The Augustinians are a religious order whose members cater to the needy and live very humbly. They draw from the life and works of St. Augustine of Hippo, one of my personal favorite theologians, and author of Confessions. Pope Leo XIV, a native of the Midwest, went to Villanova University and studied mathematics and philosophy, then "served for two decades in Peru, where he became a bishop and a naturalized citizen" before he ascended to lead the Order of St. Augustine. He then served as a top bureaucrat in the Vatican, playing an essential role in choosing and supervising bishops around the world. He's also a polyglot, able to speak fluently in Spanish, Italian, and Portuguese, as well as his native English; he reads German and Latin.

"Even today, there are many settings in which the Christian faith is considered absurd, meant for the weak and unintelligent. Settings where other securities are preferred, like technology, money, success, power, or pleasure," said Pope Leo XIV in his first homily as pope today.* "These are contexts where it is not easy to preach the Gospel and bear witness to its truth, where believers are mocked, opposed, despised, or at best tolerated and pitied. Yet, precisely for this reason, they are the places where our missionary outreach is desperately needed. A lack of faith is often tragically accompanied by the loss of meaning in life, the neglect of mercy, appalling violations of human dignity, the crisis of the family, and so many other wounds that afflict our society. And these are not few."

Pope Leo XIV will, in some ways, be a natural successor to Pope Francis: He's oriented toward unity in the increasingly global church. "He is a very balanced, measured kind of person who deals well with crisis in a certain sense," a former classmate of his, Rev. Mark R. Francis, told The New York Times. "It doesn't fluster him. He thinks things through and offers very stable leadership."

Though popes should not be thought of as conservative vs. liberal—that's not really the axis on which they're operating—he has made several public statements that show him to be a bit of a rhetorical departure from Pope Francis. "The promotion of gender ideology is confusing, because it seeks to create genders that don't exist," he told local news media in Peru, when a government proposal sought to include gender-ideology teachings in local curricula. In other ways, his beliefs are expected to line up well with Pope Francis'; he retweeted articles criticizing Vice President J.D. Vance's understanding of ordo amoris applied to immigrants.

"Will the next pope be right wing?" Wrong question. Catholicism is nine times older than the left-right paradigm. There's no way to plot conclave politics on less than twenty different axes, several of which operate on non-physical planes & three of which are about being Italian

— Madoc Cairns (@MadocCairns) April 21, 2025


Scenes from New York: "Why Can't New York Have Nice Mayors?" asks The New Yorker, misunderstanding that all those who seek such power have an innate character defect.


QUICK HITS

  • Ana Camero, a 64-year-old grandma, was deported after mistakenly taking the wrong turn on her way home from work, driving into San Diego's Marine Corps Recruit Depot and failing to provide ID, at which point immigration authorities were called. Her family says she came here illegally but has lived in the U.S. for 20 years and that she does not have a driver's license or any other California or U.S. identification. Forgive me, but the crime I'm worried about here is grandmas being bad drivers more than the decades-ago border crossing.
  • Expect much more like this:

NEW ODD LOTS:

A US clothing brand facing existential threat from the tariffs.@tracyalloway and I spoke with Sarah LaFleur, CEO of the clothing brand @mmlafleur on the apparel and textile supply chain and what's already happening to her business. https://t.co/T0eI09RtVK

— Joe Weisenthal (@TheStalwart) May 9, 2025

  • "India and Pakistan accused each other of launching new military attacks on Friday, using drones and artillery for the third day in the worst fighting between the nuclear-armed South Asian neighbours in nearly three decades," reports Reuters.

*CORRECTION: This article previously misstated the date of Pope Leo XIV's first homily.

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  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Why have all the sky is falling economists here not talking about their favorite metrics anymore?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/us-stocks-gained-and-dollar-strengthened-amid-trade-optimism-following-us-uk-agreement-and

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Democrats trying to keep the fear alive and force retailers to include tariff prices on products.

      https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/democrats-trying-force-retailers-display-cost-trump-tariffs-products

      First, this is compelled speech.

      Second, fine but let's also add in the regulatory costs. Deal democrats?

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        1. Tariffs are far more readily calculated than regulatory costs.

        2. So it's compelled speech to force breaking out tariffs, but not a violation of the First Amendment to ban reporting tariffs?

        3. Don't whine that Trump didn't ban Amazon from reporting tariffs, since that was the left's answer to complaints about Biden censorship "requests".

        1. Minadin   2 months ago

          Who is suggesting that the government 'ban reporting tariffs'?

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

            Uhh, perhaps you didn't read the news that Amazon was planning to, then Trump blasted them for unpatriotic behavior, then Amazon said they wouldn't.

            1. Minadin   2 months ago

              Trump's Press Sec criticized them for the plan, which she's allowed to do. There was no banning of anything.

            2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

              Doesn't sound like a "ban". Sound's like Trump made a mean tweet.

            3. Incunabulum   2 months ago

              Oh, but that is just a private company exercising it's private company rights - just like Facebook and Twitter, right?

              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                One difference: Trump didn't secretly send a minion with 'hints'.

            4. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

              Stupid is as Stupid does.

        2. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 months ago

          Tariffs may be more readily calculable, but isn't forcing a business to reveal the cost not only a new regulation but also an additional cost for them to accommodate the request?

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            But they wouldn't be required to report that cost.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Let's at least make gas stations display federal, state, local taxes included per gallon.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          A gas station in California was doing that.

        2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

          They do where I live. There is a sticker on the pump near the price.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

            I’ve seen those stickers occasionally in Illinois.

            1. rbike   2 months ago

              We Iowa s don't go to Illinois gas stations, even if it is right across the river.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

                Why would you want to pay substantially more? I get fuel out of state if I’m returning (usually Wisconsin or Indiana).

      3. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

        I agree it's compelled speech but that ship has sailed long ago when it comes to commerce.

    2. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

      Why have you still refused to admit Trump is an economic moron, or that tariffs raise taxes on Americans and give the government more money to spend?

      1. Chinny Chin Chin   2 months ago

        Forget it Jake. It's Shill-town.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Projection seems to be the common traits of you shills.

        2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

          Buttplug's sockpuppet: "It's Shill-town"

          Oh wow.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

            Yeah, it’s some nuclear strength projection.

      2. Incunabulum   2 months ago

        Why have you refused to admit that Biden, Obama, Occassio-Cortez, Sanders, Warren, Pelosi, etc are economic morons?

        You are claiming future harm from Trump while silent on the real harm caused by these people.

    3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      Are we supposed to change our arguments because you just did?

      I'll admit to being surprised that the stock market reacted so positively to the Al Capone's vault of a "trade agreement" yesterday or Trump's announcement that they're considering an insane 80% tariff on China instead of the 145% they initially imposed. The take away for me yesterday was the 0 for 0 tariff deal you said Trump was negotiating will not happen. 10% with favored carve outs will be the best deal available.

      The market is recovering as Trump mitigates the damage he caused, but the big crash is coming if Trump's excesses aren't overturned soon. As predicted, the price increase announcements are starting and they'll continue and worsen over the next few months.

      In the meantime, I'm glad my "fake money" in my retirement account (that you maliciously expressed you hoped I lost) is back. It's just an unrealized gain though, right?

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        but the big crash is coming

        Chuck Schumer has his fingers crossed and Sarc and Buttplug have been saying prayers.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          They will keep hoping for economic destruction to defend their globalist managed trade systems. All while calling it free trade. It is amazing.

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

            And true believers will keep lighting candles in hope their miracle will be answered. Probably not a good idea to piss off the Pope, with that strategy.

            Good new yesterday though, still YTD is negative for S&P, Dow and Nasdaq.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Hey another economist who has been consistently wrong. You guys all seem very upset that the economy hasn't crashed.

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          I wouldn't doubt that's true about Schumer. He has a lot to gain in that scenario. I doubt Sarc and SPB want that kind of pain just to say I told you so to the comments, but I guess you never know.

          1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

            Sarc would eat a live baby if he thought he could beat his Reason comment "enemies" by doing so.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              I would be against sarc eating a dead or live baby.

              You're up sarc.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        "...Are we supposed to change our arguments because you just did?..."

        Absolutely not and given that you are a TDS-addled ignoramus, we also don't expect you to change your views when the facts say you are full of shit.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          I love how they keep making more and more predictions despite their prior prediction track record.

          They sound more and more like climate alarmist every day. Or the communism has never been tried crowd.

      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        When and how did I change my argument?

        I was laughing at you the entire time.

        My argument has been consistent for over a decade dumbass.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Three weeks ago you were saying the market drop this was a natural correction. So we're back in a bubble now?

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            So you're just fucking dumb?

            I called it a natural normal market correction with a side of panic. Standard market volatility. While pointing out the panic was induced by people like you. Which it turns out was right.

            You and stg were here claiming economic destruction while I laughed at you. As it was, again, normal market volatility with some extra panic thrown in.

            It is you and others who were pushing the market collapse theory due to tariffs. Yet when the volatility corrects you're silent in regards to it.

            You continue to be wrong in your predictions. You continue to cite any small decline as proof then go silent when it goes back up.

            You're projecting your own behaviors buddy. I bought off the panic your side pushed lol. I have been consistent.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              I never said the stock market drop was a sign of anything (other than investors' expedtations). I complained about Trump single handedly making an announcement that crashed the market and that's too much power for 1 person to have.

              But you're right that I didn't think the market would recover with the tariffs in place and I still don't think it will last.

              But here: enjoy this...I was wrong.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                Maybe try staying out of the prediction business, then. This is getting to be as bad as the neocons thinking Trump's actions are going to lead to some center-right jellyfish taking control of the GOP.

                1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                  How many times have we asked them to show us the data that proces their views that the markers are overly sensitive to tariff costs?

                  It continues to boggles my mind they think tariffs have a higher sensitivity than things like the regulatory costs. They continue to ignore base market adaptation like supplier shifts.

                  And when proven wrong over and over they never learn.

                  They think the economy is fragile. But that goes hand in hand with their single variable analysis.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    See now you try the sleight of hand that a tariff announcement's effect on the stock market is equivalent to tariff itself having an effect on consumer prices.

                    Then you add the strawman that anyone claimed the tariff effect is more sensitive than regulatory costs.

                2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  Politics is all predictions. The only thing different from me and most others is I acknowledge and admit my errors.

                  1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                    "...The only thing different from me and most others is I acknowledge and admit my errors..."

                    Bullshit.

                    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                      This. Lol.

      4. JFree   2 months ago

        The market is recovering as Trump mitigates the damage he caused

        Trump isn't really to blame. Most people have never seen a bear market - or a prolonged dollar decline - or normal interest rates for any length of time - or a trade disruption - or what happens in a hugely overvalued market that reverts to mean (ignore overshoot to undervaluation). We will soon have a wonderful learning experience in exactly how bears rip your fucking face off.

        This wasn't the sort of market that prices in allowance for electing dead people, clowns, narcissists, corrupt critters, and other non-serious personality types. We are kind of lucky that the long-term finally happened - probably.

      5. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        The sad part is that the slightest hint of not being Trump's brown-nosing lap dog by pointing out the harm he is doing to the 2026 elections, and even the possibility that if the Dems take back the house, as is the historical trend for all midterms, they will impeach Trump for the third time and have some actual solid reasons (violating 15 trade treaties, violating Garcia's court order) -- even hint that Trump is shooting himself in the foot, and they react like babies whose pacifier has been stolen.

        Short-sighted doesn't begin to cover them.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          even the possibility that if the Dems take back the house, as is the historical trend for all midterms, they will impeach Trump for the third time and have some actual solid reasons (violating 15 trade treaties, violating Garcia's court order) -- even hint that Trump is shooting himself in the foot, and they react like babies whose pacifier has been stolen.

          They're going to do that regardless, for any number of arbitrary reasons. "Actual solid" doesn't even come into play here. And it's going to be just as ineffectual as it was last time, but on the off chance they do get enough butts in Congress to actually pull it off, it's civil war time at that point.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            RRWP: on the off chance they do get enough butts in Congress to actually pull it off, it's civil war time at that point.

            Also RRWP: Maybe try staying out of the prediction business, then.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

              Yes, Mike, we know the last thing you want is your lefty boos being resisted.

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                Says the guy defending the left side of the argument.

                Trump sounds a lot like Bernie lately. He proposed tax increases on the rich now too.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                  You're definitely not sounding like any kind of libertarian.

      6. Incunabulum   2 months ago

        Is it not? Until you sell it it is speculative value. Value is locked in at the sale.

        And if you really believed a big crash was coming you'd be cashing out right now that the market has recovered.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          "Stated" vs "Revealed Preference". turd was making dire predictions, and I hope the slimy pile of lefty shit sold everything.

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          It is true in my case, but there are opportunity costs to a tanking market that affect many investors.

          And if you really believed a big crash was coming you'd be cashing out right now that the market has recovered.

          Who said I always think I'm right, but I don't think I'm always right?

          I think the economy will crash, but my confidence in that is not so great that I'll go against the old wisdom of invest and let it sit through all the volatility. Besides this is all predicated on Trump's actions and he is completely unpredictable or congress or the SC intervening.

          1. Zeb   2 months ago

            I hope I'm wrong about all my negative predictions. I expect you are similar. I hope all Trumps shenanigans work out well. I just don't have a lot of confidence at this point.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              Yeah, same here.

    4. MasterThief   2 months ago

      My self-managed portfolio is up 15% this year right now. Definitely sucked seeing it crash temporarily and it unfortunately happened when I was cash poor. Still, I loaded up on assets and am better off for it now.

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        That's awesome. I wish I had your patience, know-how and confidence on trading. Seeing some coworkers retire in their 50's made me try several times to educate myself enough to trade stocks but I always lose interest.

        Born poor, die poor. It's a family tradition.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Fighting oligarchy from the P.J...

    Milk and apples, baby.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    You think I'm going to be sitting on a waiting line at United…while 30,000 people are waiting?

    Out-fucking-standing.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

      He's doing it for you, Bernie Bros.

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        Private jets and gold-plated toilets are fine are necessary for our exalted elites.

        More than one square of toilet paper, 13 kinds of deodorant, 30 dolls or 50 pencils is just excessive for us proles though.

        Now drink your turnip juice and STFU.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          What if the elite rips out the toilets in the mansion he owns next door so he can get the place declared “uninhabitable” and get a major property tax break from his buddy at the county clerk’s office? Asking for a certain obese governor I know.

        2. Dillinger   2 months ago

          dude you push way too hard on the paper if you need 50 pencils

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            LOL good one, Dillinger.

          2. Zeb   2 months ago

            I need them because I always forget where I put them down.

          3. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

            Have you not heard of the great youth "sport" called pencil fighting?

            (I really don't know if school kids still do this, but it was a great way to pass the time if you were bored in school. One student holds his pencil horizontally, with a hand on each end. The other student tries to break the first student's pencil by slamming his pencil against it. You alternate shots a bunch of times until one student's pencil breaks. You can easily go through 50 in a school year doing this.)

      2. damikesc   2 months ago

        It is amusing how well he is doing, given his life-long record of a total inability to hold a job worth a damn.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          Sucking the Big Pharma teat seems to help.

    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      Rich peoples kids and the guys who milk them are saving us poors from ourselves and need to get special privileges in order to do it.

    3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      “You think I’m going to be sitting on a waiting line at united…..?”

      I was thinking more like jet blue, frontier or greyhound.

      C’mon Bernie, walk the walk.

  4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    60% of Palestinians still say it was right to kidnap, rape, murder, and torture jews on Oct 7.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/05/poll-59-of-palestinians-in-west-bank-say-october-7-massacre-was-correct-decision/

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      I bet if you asked that at Harvard it'd be twice that figure. They'd be lining up to say that it was okay a second time.

    2. Nobartium   2 months ago

      It gets worse, this included the West Bank. There truly can only be one state. And it ain't Palestinian.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        Just to be fair make it a crusader state again a la the Kingdom of Jerusalem.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Given the Palestinians in this country that I've crossed in my lifetime, I'm surprised it's that low.

    4. Eeyore   2 months ago

      59% of Gaza residents beg Israel to bomb them in latest poll.

  5. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "FBI Launches Criminal Investigation Into NY Attorney General Letitia James"
    [...]
    "A criminal investigation is under way into New York Attorney General Letitia James after questions were raised about her real estate and mortgage activities.
    According to the Albany Times-Union, the FBI office in Albany is leading the investigation.
    “This is being handled at this time by main [Department of] Justice and the Albany FBI field office,” said U.S. Attorney John A. Sarcone III, who oversees New York’s Northern District..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fbi-launches-criminal-investigation-into-ny-attorney-general-letitia-james/ar-AA1Eq2WB

    Better late than never.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Her lawyers screaming it is politically motivated is hilarious.

      The guy who found these documents had a friend be targeted by James for mortgage fraud and he committed suicide. Trump wasn't the one who uncovered this. It was one of her other targets.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        The crazy part is that the guy who's exposing all this was part of the Crazy Eddie crew, because he and his brother did a lot of this same shit, so he knows where the fraud gets hidden.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

      Couldn’t happen to a better asshole. I hope they get her for everything and throw her in “federal pound me in the ass prison”.

      1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

        She might enjoy that.

      2. MK Ultra   2 months ago

        By her trans cell mate.

      3. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        That's a lot of ass.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          Could be worse…

          “I can't believe what a bunch of nerds we are. We're looking up "money laundering" in a dictionary.”

  6. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    The new religious statues of fat black women are pretty amazing.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/statues-random-fat-black-women-popping-worldwide

    1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      It's not even of a particular person. ChatGPT could could have made it. "Show me a stereotypical black woman"

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        The frumpy black woman on her cell phone is my favorite.

        1. damikesc   2 months ago

          The progressive desire to destroy aesthetic beauty is baffling to this day.

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      60% of American black women are obese. Diet and exercise is racist.

    3. Zeb   2 months ago

      I was expecting fatter. Most of those barely count by today's standards.

    4. Eeyore   2 months ago

      I can hear the statue bitching at me about having to stand there. Where's my chair. My feet hurt.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    With Trump's tariffs in effect, we are now making popes in America

    Make no mistake, this is akin to giving Obama a Nobel. Leo might be a worthy successor to Peter, but His Holiness was likely nudged over the top as a protest to Trump's immigration policies.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Finally a pope Reason can get behind. They both think J.D. Vance is wrong.

    2. The Margrave of Azilia   2 months ago

      How do you know this?

  8. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Judges have been getting struck down for jurisdiction. We'll a Vermont judge has a great idea.

    Judge orders Trump to transfer immigrant detained in Mass, now held in Louisiana, to Vermont so he can have proper jurisdiction.

    https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/court-rules-trump-administration-has-transfer-detained-pro-palestine-student

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      Children trying to boss the parents. Judges must be GenZ if they think this will work.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The promotion of gender ideology is confusing, because it seeks to create genders that don't exist...

    He better start deleting tweets.

  10. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

    "American pope"

    TRUMP'S TARIFFS WORKED!

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...misunderstanding that all those who seek such power have an innate character defect.

    They should drag random New Yorkers kicking and screaming into the mayor's mansion.

  12. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    ; he grew up poor, but it's his book deals, his royalties, and his $175,000 annual salary that allow him and his wife to afford their homes.

    Not completely correct.

    Sanders used a loophole to take 15% off his campaign spending by having his wife acting as the contracting agent. His wealth exploded in 2019 under this arrangement.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      What Sanders appears to dislike is vulgar wealth.

      Which is why he stopped talking about millionaires and now talks about billionaires after he became a millionaire.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        "What Sanders appears to dislike is vulgar wealth."

        The parvenus and arriviste, so declassee.

        This is what they actually hate about Elon and Trump. So vulgar and tasteless, with their rocket ships and their gold sinks and mean tweeting.

        They never summer in the Mediterranean and winter at St. Barts like decent people.

      2. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

        And "vulgar wealth" is whomever has more wealth than he does. What other people do is not as important to need a private jet as what he does. He has appointed himself moral arbiter over what vulgar wealth is and he is always the exception. Screw Bernie.

      3. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Vulgar wealth is the wrong term. It's not like he's leading the charge against Epstein. It's just whatever wealth he doesn't happen to approve of that morning.

  13. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

    Habemus papam FIBius

    FIFY. The new Pope is from Chicago, ergo, by default, he is the first FIB Pope.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Il Papa? La Papa? Ix Papa? No! Knock off the non-gender binary frociaggine. It's Da Pope.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        Da FIB Pope.

        Regards,
        Green Bay and Detroit fans. 😉

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Saw that meme already

        https://x.com/redsteeze/status/1920530637447909427

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          It was also the cover of the Chicago Sun-Times this morning.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      I admit, not being from the area, I had to look that up.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        It’s a Midwestern thing. Wisconsinites (aka Cheeseheads) commonly call Illinoisans, particularly Chicagoans, FIBs or FISHs. Has something to do with the latter’s behavior and road manners when in the former. SW Michiganders call them FIP. A person from Michigan’s Upper Peninsula is a Yooper, and the call people from the Lowe Peninsula, Trolls, as the live under (south) of the Mackinac Bridge. Indianans are Hoosiers, and Ohioans are Fuckeyes..er..Buckeyes.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          I'm a recovered Ohioan. I knew hoosiers, yoopers, and fuckeyes. Hadn't heard FIB before.

        2. Dillinger   2 months ago

          fucking in-bounders?

          1. mad.casual   2 months ago

            Illinois Bastards.

        3. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Indianans are Hoosiers

          People from Indiana are Hoosiers. Also, people from Illinois are Illini. There is no such thing as an "Indianan".

          The -ian (or -er) demonym is just a preamble to the low-IQ, smooth brained, "pronouns are hard, bureaucratic, woke idiocy.

    3. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      We need a Catholic version of this.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooT_uz--O2A

  14. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Forgive me, but the crime I'm worried about here is grandmas being bad drivers more than the decades-ago border crossing.

    Aside from the immigration issues, can we all, as libertarian or libertarian-adjacent, agree that the Founding Fathers made no requirement of drivers licenses.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Like muskets, the constitution only covers the right to dirt roads and horse carts.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Look at the oligarch who can afford a cart over here.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

          But I had to eat the horse.

    2. damikesc   2 months ago

      I will say, however, that my empathy for somebody who has lived here with 20 years and has no ID is pretty darned low.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Finally found the voter who can't get an id. Jeff will be ecstatic.

      2. Zeb   2 months ago

        I have to kind of admire the 20 years without ID part. Driving without a license while being subject to deportation is fairly dumb, though.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    A US clothing brand facing existential threat from the tariffs.

    Just put American children into sweatshops already, can we?

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      Must abolish public schools first. Then the poors who can't afford schooling will send their kids to the factories, just like the good old days when tariffs made the nation rich.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        This isn’t 1911, and these folks wouldn’t be working for the Triangle Waist Company, you blithering idiot.

        1. charliehall   2 months ago

          He isn't a blithering idiot. He knows that when the libertarians repeal all the workplace safety rules, there will be many Triangle Shirtwaist fires and a lot of the young people he has denied an education will perish.

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Spoken like a true leftist and their understanding of reality.

      3. Randy Sax   2 months ago

        Can you acknowledge there will be money saved when we no longer spend $30,000+ per student per year on public skools? Government skool isn't free either.

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          Of course I can. Can you acknowledge that public schools don't have to spend $30k per student per year? If they stuck to the three r's instead of teaching kids about their feelings, then the we all would be better off. But I do think that education is a public good. The problem is that the delivery system currently sucks. Unlike those who want public schooling abolished, I don't want to toss the baby out with the bath water.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            Which side controls the public schooling system buddy? Which party fights against reforms buddy?

            I mean just a few months ago you were raging against Trump for making the DoEd operate at the statutory minimum. A few years ago you were angry your loans weren't included in the loan forgiveness, the only reason you were against it.

          2. Randy Sax   2 months ago

            Government cannot improve. They have a monopoly and there is no incentive. So abolish the delivery system. If you still wish for it to be a public good you can abolish public skools, and every kid gets a $15,000 voucher (or some other number) to go to a private skool.

            1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

              Do you even know what a public good is?

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

                You don’t.

              2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                A good you demand be given to illegal immigrants while you claim sponsors pay for their costs?

              3. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

                No such thing. There are things that people perceive as a public good (libraries and parks), but they are simply products of theft.

                Unironically, lefties scream the loudest about this shit when tax cuts are mentioned. See democrats and national parks when shutting down the gov't is mentioned.

              4. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                I guess that mean no.

                See democrats and national parks when shutting down the gov't is mentioned.

                That's what's called "malicious compliance". Or are you going to say there's no such thing again.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

                  Nice redirection. This was about schools, and notice how Strawcasmic tries to redirect the conversation with a false equivalency.

              5. Randy Sax   2 months ago

                From the definition,

                Public goods are those that are available to all (“nonexcludable”) and that can be enjoyed over and over again by anyone without diminishing the benefits they deliver to others (“nonrival”).

                How does the system I described not fit that definition?

                Taking the conversation 360, the point is that, no, abolishing public skools will not "Then the poors who can't afford schooling will send their kids to the factories"

            2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Arizona did this. The private and charter schools get less per student. And way out perform the public schools. And those schools require a lottery system, charters.

              So what did the state education board do? Chang the grades for schools. The high performing charters are now b and c schools because they remain high performing. The bad performing schools are A schools because they improved slightly on test scores. Improvement is the primary portion of the grade now, not the test scores.

              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                Hmmm...

                Was getting a weird error using parenthesis earlier.

            3. charliehall   2 months ago

              More like $64,000. That is the tuition for high school at one of the private schools in my neighborhood and the others are about the same price. I don't want my property taxes to double.

          3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

            education is a public good.

            Can you find us a Frederic Bastiat quote supporting this?

        2. charliehall   2 months ago

          No, because private school tuition here in NYC is typically much higher.

      4. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        Must abolish public schools first. Then the poors who can't afford schooling will send their kids to the factories, just like the good old days when tariffs made the nation rich.

        For a guy who skipped high school Sarc sure does love his government education like a good little CNN viewer.

        1. Nobartium   2 months ago

          Must abolish public schools first. Then the poors who can't afford schooling will send their kids to the factories, just like the good old days when tariffs made the nation rich.

          Everytime that school budgets are discussed, this is the standard leftist talking point.

          Yet more proof that the drunkard was always a lefty.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      American kids... working? What madness! Now maybe if you create a life sim video game around sewing that controls the machines, you might be onto something.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    India and Pakistan accused each other of launching new military attacks on Friday...

    They're just begging for Trump to come in and negotiate their war into oblivion.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

      Are they trying to get a shitstorm started?

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Bidding starts at, The Trump Mahal or The Donald's Fort of Lahore.

  17. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    Bernie, "I see ?free? ponies at my neighbors house!!!! Get out the Gov-Guns boys. Time for another Crime-Spree."

    Criminal through and through.
    And that's is why this nation is in such disarray.
    Turning the Halls of Justice into the Halls of Criminals.

  18. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Her family says she came here illegally but has lived in the U.S. for 20 years and that she does not have a driver's license or any other California or U.S. identification. Forgive me, but the crime I'm worried about here is grandmas being bad drivers more than the decades-ago border crossing.

    Hey liz... do you know how much these drivers cost those of us who have insurance (doubt she had it) and get hit by these drivers?

    Sarc and Jeff aren't promising to pay for the damages they cause.

    She was a) here illegally, b) committing more crimes while being here illegally.

    California has drivers licenses for illegals. They offer insurance and registration to the same group. Illegals still don't comply because the DAs actually don't charge them and dismiss the cases for illegals.

  19. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    There's several takes on this:

    Ana Camero, a 64-year-old grandma, was deported after mistakenly taking the wrong turn on her way home from work, driving into San Diego's Marine Corps Recruit Depot and failing to provide ID, at which point immigration authorities were called. Her family says she came here illegally but has lived in the U.S. for 20 years and that she does not have a driver's license or any other California or U.S. identification. Forgive me, but the crime I'm worried about here is grandmas being bad drivers more than the decades-ago border crossing.

    * If this is the first time in 20 years that she's been asked for a driver's license, then she was a good driver but no longer is.

    * If she hasn't needed an ID for 20 years, that implies someone else has been doing everything for her that requires an ID. I can imagine earning money without an ID. I can imagine living entirely by cash. I can imagine depending on children and husband for renting, signing up for utilities, and lots of other things. I cannot imagine getting car insurance without ID. I cannot imagine paying income taxes. Property taxes are part of rent. Sales taxes are part of buying.

    * Seems a shame to deport someone so harmless, but she's had 20 years to do something about it.

    * Live by the lie, get deported by the lie.

    * My sympathy is limited to her wasting 20 years trying to dodge the system rather than be honest about it.

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      Live by the lie, get deported by the truth.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        You're right, that's a better take.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Why do you hate Cali Grannies?

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      * Seems a shame to deport someone so harmless, but she's had 20 years to do something about it.

      What do you think that "something" is? There is nothing that she can do, legally, short of just leaving. She can't apply for a green card and she can't apply for asylum.

      And yes, she could pay income taxes without a US-government issued ID. It's called an ITIN.

      She's been living here for 20 years and she seemingly hasn't been causing a fuss. Why deport her?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        Jeffy, I have an experiment for you. Go to another country, overstay your visa, and then just stay there for the next 20 years. Now let’s see how they treat you.

      2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        What do you think that "something" is? There is nothing that she can do, legally, short of just leaving. She can't apply for a green card and she can't apply for asylum.

        Funny coming from the guy who thinks every illegal is entitled to a court hearing (or 2 or 3, however many until the desired outcome is reached) where they can claim asylum or something else so they won't be sent packing.

        1. Incunabulum   2 months ago

          And why could she not leave?

      3. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        "There is nothing that she can do, legally, short of just leaving."

        Yes. Do the right thing.

      4. Super Scary   2 months ago

        "What do you think that "something" is? There is nothing that she can do, legally, short of just leaving."

        Asked and answered. You're so efficient today Jeff.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Sounds like she's starting to get dementia, if she's lived in San Diego for 20 years and took a wrong turn on to the Marine base. That base has been in the same damn spot for decades now.

    5. charliehall   2 months ago

      It is legal to drive in the US with a drivers license from another country. It is better people get US licenses, but the nativist bigots want to prevent that from happening.

      " I can imagine earning money without an ID. I can imagine living entirely by cash. I can imagine depending on children and husband for renting, signing up for utilities, and lots of other things."

      She is the perfect libertarian, relying on government for nothing!

      "I cannot imagine getting car insurance without ID."

      Car insurance still is not required in New Hampshire.

      "My sympathy is limited to her wasting 20 years"

      The waiting list for visas from Mexico was years long. And that was to get an appointment and doesn't count the processing time. The Biden Administration greatly shortened it to less than one year.

  20. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago


    Joe Weisenthal
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    A US clothing brand facing existential threat from the tariffs.

    Lying through ignorance? There are a lot of countries, including the US!, that manufacture clothes.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      Uighur slave access shall not be restricted. That $90 tank top would only be 800% mark up without them.

  21. Mataratones   2 months ago

    Bernie Sanders worked his way up to a position of wealth, but he did it entirely in government service. That does not have the same merit as the private sector.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      He should never be allowed to live down that he was kicked out a of a commune for being lazy.

  22. mad.casual   2 months ago

    “Will the next pope be right wing?” Wrong question. Catholicism is nine times older than the left-right paradigm. There’s no way to plot conclave politics on less than twenty different axes, several of which operate on non-physical planes & three of which are about being Italian

    I see you've played 20 dimensional, transcendental, trans-post-tribal, trans-post-Enlightenment, trans-post-truth chess before.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Antidisestablishmentarianism or internecine something something...

  23. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    " a 64-year-old grandma, was deported"

    If she'd been caught the day she crossed the Rio Grande (assuming that was here method of entry) and summarily deported within 24-hours, we'd not get this sob story. So strong border enforcement and swift deportations will do a lot to avoid these sorts of stories going forward.

    The fact that she eluded capture for 20 years makes little difference to me, any more than say, a car thief who drove the stolen car around for 10 years without getting caught finally getting caught and being charged and sentenced for the theft.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Doubtful she eluded capture. California is a sanctuary state. Illegals are treated better there than citizens. DAs even have a policy of pleading down deoortable offenses.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        I'd feel bad --- but too many in CA keep voting for the idiotic policies.

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      So strong border enforcement and swift deportations will do a lot to avoid these sorts of stories going forward.

      "strong border enforcement" = erosion of our liberties in the name of security, just like with the War on Drugs

      "swift deportations" = erosion of due process for everyone, not just migrants

      Sure, if an authoritarian government starts taking away people's liberties, then it can act more swiftly. Is this really what we want?

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        "strong border enforcement"

        I'm imagining a BP agent every 10-20 yds along the northern bank of the Rio Grand with the authority to detain any they see crossing the river, and administrative processing for immediate deportation back to points South.

        Seems unlikely to impact citizens in any way, and the summary deportation is statutory due process already in such cases (Expedited Removal (INA § 235(b))).

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          What happens when those migrants request asylum? Are you going to have an asylum judge along the Rio Grande every 10-20 yards as well?

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

            Oh boy. Here comes the selectively nuanced defeatist again.

            No point in trying if you can’t put an asylum judge every 10-20 yards on the border.

            Or maybe they could Remain In Mexico while they wait. Crazy idea, could never work. Lol.

            What an idiot.

            1. charliehall   2 months ago

              "Remain In Mexico"

              That violates US law. You can't apply for asylum unless you are WITHIN the US. And simply applying for asylum gets you admitted automatically, no exceptions, no vetting.

          2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

            If they request asylum (which I've shown you the numbers that many don't bother), then they're welcome to take up residence in the refugee camp we'll build, say outside of Tuscon or Bakersfield, (or maybe we can use Sherif Joe's old site!) while they wait for their case to be called. We can staff that camp with a dozen or one hundred or... immigration judges. If their application for asylum is rejected, the bus ride back across the border will not have to be a very long one.

            1. charliehall   2 months ago

              They can't be bussed back to the border because Mexico won't let them back in unless they are Mexican, which almost none of them are. They have to be flown back to their countries of birth.

          3. charliehall   2 months ago

            Sen. Lankford and the Biden Administration worked out a deal that would have funded a lot more immigration judges and provided for expedited hearing and expedited removal for those whose asylum claims clearly had no merit.

            Trump ordered the Republicans to kill the deal. Trump doesn't want to solve the so called border crisis, he and the many nativist bigots commenting here just want an issue to weaponize bigotry.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          And then what will happen is that you will just have migrants crossing the border in other places, not along the Rio Grande river.

          This falls into the same trap that the drug warriors fall into. They think that if they just crack down a little bit harder, then the nation will finally be drug free. But it never works out that way because there is no possible way to stop all of those people from consuming drugs of their choice without creating a full-on North Korea style police state.

          And so after decades and decades of failed drug war policy, we are finally starting to see a cultural shift in this nation that maybe, the costs outweigh the benefits, and that the price for having a totally drug free nation is just too high. But in the meantime, there were an awful lot of people who were harmed and killed by the drug war itself.

          So let's not go down that same path here. No matter how strict your border enforcement plans are, there is just no way to stop determined people from crossing the border, short of a full-on authoritarian regime. Since I prefer not to have a full-on authoritarian regime, I choose liberty as the better choice.

          1. charliehall   2 months ago

            1) The drug warriors want a North Korea style police state.

            2) So do the Nativist Bigots who want to stop immigration.

            There is of course a solution for problem #2 that doesn't involve a police state. First, return to the pre-1965 immigration law for the Western Hemisphere. Before the law was changed in 1965, the procedure for someone who wanted to come to the US was to go to a US Consulate in your country of birth, and apply for a visa. If you could convince the Consular Officer that you weren't a criminal, a revolutionary, or likely to become a public charge, you got issued a visa. No quotas. None of this showing up at the border expecting to get admitted. From Mexico there was even a formal program to encourage immigration of agricultural workers, the Bracero program.

        3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          And even with your plan:

          Seems unlikely to impact citizens in any way,

          On whose property will all of those border guards be standing? Most of the land along the Rio Grande is privately owned. Is the government going to seize that land via eminent domain? THAT is one way how citizens will be impacted.

          1. charliehall   2 months ago

            Expect the Trump Administration to take all private land near the border via eminent domain and to claim that it had zero value so they don't need to compensate people.

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      The fact that she eluded capture for 20 years makes little difference to me, any more than say, a car thief who drove the stolen car around for 10 years without getting caught finally getting caught and being charged and sentenced for the theft.

      All but the most heinous of crimes have a statute of limitations.

      So either explain why the statute of limitation principle should not apply, or explain why the crime of illegal entry should be considered comparable to that of rape and murder when it comes to enforcement way after the fact.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        The statue of limitations starts when you stop committing the crime, retard. Not when you start committing the crime.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          The illegal entry part occurred 20 years ago.

          1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

            Are you being retarded on purpose? The illegal entry part continued for 20 years. The whole time she was in the US she was breaking the law. It didn't stop the second she entered.

            Of course you know that, but you'll do anything to be dishonest, right?

      2. Nobartium   2 months ago

        Because illegal crossings violate territorial sovereignty. And since governments exist on timescales far longer than any one person, the statue of limitations here should be as long.

        1. charliehall   2 months ago

          "the statue of limitations here should be as long."

          But it isn't.

          And being in the US illegally isn't a crime at all.

          Deal with it.

      3. Zeb   2 months ago

        They are subject to deportation under civil law as well. No criminal charge is required if they are here illegally.

      4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        When was the last day she was illegally present? That would be when I'd start the statute of limitations counter.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          The issue here is that you all treat the crime of illegal entry as far worse than it really is.

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

            No, the issue here is that you cannot accept limits or sovereignty.

            A million people a year migrate here legally. This is the limit that has been set.

            Not enough for you? Fuck off.

            1. charliehall   2 months ago

              No, the one who needs to f o is you. The law is the law. Illegal entry is a misdemeanor unless you have been previously deported. And it isn't a crime at all to simply be in the US illegally. Deal with it.

          2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

            So all of a sudden your statute-of-limitations argument doesn't mean fuck and you're back to minimization again.

        2. charliehall   2 months ago

          "That would be when I'd start the statute of limitations counter."

          That is not the law, so what you want is totally irrelevant. It starts when the crime occurred. It isn't a crime to be in the US illegally.

      5. charliehall   2 months ago

        Five year statute of limitations from the time one entered illegally. Simply being in the US isn't even a crime.

  24. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    "take on the oligarchs and corporate interests who have so much power and influence in this country."

    So the socialist is going after the democrats?
    Outstanding!

    If only being a journalist involved things like looking up the wealth growth of people named Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and the like, and including that as part of any "oligarch" story.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      https://www.opensecrets.org/2020-presidential-race/bernie-sanders/contributors?id=N00000528

      1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

        Data only to 2018, not the full picture.

  25. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Those lovely "students"...these are the people the left is fighting to NOT deport, to NOT cancel student visas, ...

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2025/05/08/it-is-our-job-to-destroy-the-united-states-n2656673

    Amid a torrent of ugly rhetoric, SJP's president at Temple University in Philadelphia spells it out as clear as day: "It is our job to destroy imperialism, destroy the United States, and destroy capitalism," Rishi Arun says, as his fellow radicals nod along, with one woman snapping her fingers in agreement. "We will do it by organizing that actively undermines and destabilizes the legitimacy and the power of [the United States]," he adds, "and the power and legitimacy of capitalism." Another man on the pro-cop-killing, pro-terrorism Zoom call -- an official at an international "pro-Palestinian" organization called Samidoun -- is just as open and brazen: "If Palestine is liberated, this is a nail to dismantle the United States of America." A third activist cheers the killing of Israeli soldiers, employing identical language the hard Left uses to demonize law enforcement officers here at home. "When a red triangle goes above an Israeli soldier's head, and a pig gets iced, we know that is a victory."

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Despite the ignorance of jeffsarc and others, these are all grounds for revocation of visas and green cards.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Further, they're more rabidly disruptive, destructive, and culturally/intellectually backwards and ethno-nationalist than The Klan. David Duke and multiple other, similar native figures of several races/ethnicities have been (frequently rightfully) arrested, tried, and convicted for essentially the same advocacy of their respective groups.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          But that’s (D)ifferent.

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      this is a nail to dismantle the United States of America

      This metaphor made me puke a little.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        They aren't humble carpenters, that's for sure.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      "It is our job to destroy imperialism, destroy the United States, and destroy capitalism," Rishi Arun says,

      This is why you don't let Palestinians into your country, ever. These people are cockroaches who can't help but subvert, undermine, and rebel against anyone who's ever taken in their entitled, ungrateful asses.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Jordon learned that the hard way. Syria learned that the hard way. Lebanon learned that the hard way. Other ME countries learned from the mistakes of Jordon et al., but I suppose we'll have to learn it the hard way.

  26. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    "A US clothing brand facing existential threat from the tariffs."

    Bullshit.
    If they ARE a US clothing company, they don't pay the tariffs.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Lol. Look at the markup on the clothes.

      https://mmlafleur.com/pages/nc-hp

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Forget laughing at the markup; LOL @ an AWFL business owner obliviously saying, "If we can't pay the Chinese slave wages and scalp the profits, who will sew our clothes?"

        Seems like the somewhat obvious endpoint in the "expect much more like this" 'threat' is that either more women go around with less clothes or they (re)learn how to sew and weave fabric.

        Slightly OT: Granny Casual is sewing quilts for all the grandkids as they graduate High School. Working on her second. She prompted the 3rd to start thinking about his (he's 11). She wants to get a head start because by the time her youngest grandkid (so far) graduates she's expected to be 90.

        M.M. LaFleur started a business in 2023 and is lamenting that it might not last until 2026? Grow the fuck up.

        1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

          My grandmother sewed my pot holders, a blanket, a quilt, and a pair of my boxers. Always get something sewed from her on Xmas.

        2. Super Scary   2 months ago

          "is that either more women go around with less clothes "

          You had my curiosity. Now you have my attention.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            Tariff issue solved.

            https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/minnesota-supreme-court-women-bare-breasts-lewd-ruling/

            1. Jerry B.   2 months ago

              This story is useless without pictures.

      2. Incunabulum   2 months ago

        $269 for a pair of pants.

        *Off-the-rack* clothing too! Not tailored.

        If they're facing a problem from tariffs its that their rich clientele will now have to cut back on these ridiculous prices in order to afford their expensive imports.

  27. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    Ana Camero...was deported after...driving into San Diego's Marine Corps Recruit Depot and failing to provide ID....came here illegally...and does not have a driver's license...

    Illegal alien
    No drivers license
    No insurance
    Tresspassing on a military base
    Car probably not registerd/inspected

    Again, how many laws can I break as a citizen and get away with like the precious illegals can. Selective enforcement of laws is the most libertarian idea ever.

  28. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "Burn patients face excruciating recovery as medicines dwindle under Israeli blockade of Gaza"
    [...]
    "KHAN YOUNIS, Gaza (AP) — Hamza Abu Shabab cringed in pain as his mother pulled off his shirt and eased his bandaged head back onto his pillow so she could apply ointment to his small, burned body.
    The 7-year-old suffered third degree burns across his head, neck and shoulders when, frightened by an Israeli airstrike, he spilled a hot plate of rice and lentils onto himself in his family’s tent in southern Gaza last month..."
    https://apnews.com/article/gaza-airstrikes-burns-blockade-344e7fbc980abd9ba081329d81894a0d

    Perhaps his parents should learn to avoid starting wars?

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Or stop having a government that steals everything useful to keep for itself.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Or not have some totally fucked up everyplace they've ever been welcomed into that NO ONE WILL HAVE THEM. Not even young burn victims.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Or houses the military in tunnels under hospitals.
        Neither your parents nor your government gives a shit about you; why should I?

    2. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      he spilled a hot plate of rice and lentils

      Why did his parents give food hot enough to cause 3rd degree burns to a 7 year old?

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Perhaps the story has been embellished?

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Or completely fabricated to cover up for whomever might've thrown or dumped scalding water on their kids' head.

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            this. AP needs to work on its believability

            1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

              Chemjeff's paper of record?

              Poor AP has never been the same since the USAID spigot got turned off.

      2. Zeb   2 months ago

        I would assume it's because that's how hot the food is when it's served from the cooking pot.

        War sucks. That's pretty much the answer to all of these sob stories. Most blame lies with the people who started the war. If bad things happening to kids was a valid reason to stop fighting a war, then everyone would just have to lie back and take it when terrorist fucks attack.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          "War is the remedy our enemies have chosen. Other simple remedies were within their choice. You know it and they know it, but they wanted war, and I say let us give them all they want; not a word of argument, not a sign of let up, no cave in till we are whipped or they are.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      I'm calling bullshit.

      A 7 yr. old is around 4 ft. tall. Your average counter height is 3 ft.

      I'll buy that he tripped, fell backwards, and dumped the pot on his face and neck. But scared and dropped the pot burning himself *above* where he let go of the pot unless their stove is like 5 ft. tall?

      Learn not to start wars *and* learn not to lie for sympathy.

  29. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    >What Sanders appears to dislike is vulgar wealth.

    Except for three expensive properties in desirable locations, and the clothes. The food. The adulation of the credulous masses.

    The only thing he doesn't like is combing his hair.

    Fetterman does a better job looking humble - and he grew up rich.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      Fetterman as Jay Gastby doesn't fly

  30. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>If you subtract all the socialism-peddling, Bernie Sanders is an American success story who went from rags to (modest) riches. More of this, please!

    subtract all the socialism peddling you have a null set

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      I never thought I'd be libertarians praising a dude for "making it" SOLELY due to working for the government because he could not handle the private sector or even a commune.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        by definition no person who has never had a job can be an American success story

    2. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

      Bernie has spent his entire life trying to find a way to avoid doing useful work. He has been successful beyond all reasonable measure sucking at the public's teat.

      1. The Margrave of Azilia   2 months ago

        That sentence works whether or not you include the phrase "at the public's teat."

  31. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>"Why Can't New York Have Nice Mayors?" asks The New Yorker, misunderstanding that all those who seek such power have an innate character defect.

    writes the girl with the crush on Grampa Bern?

  32. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>A US clothing brand facing existential threat from the tariffs.

    rubber baby buggy whips.

  33. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Forgive me, but the crime I'm worried about here is grandmas being bad drivers more than the decades-ago border crossing.

    yes! be thankful this time her negligence resulted only in injury to herself.

  34. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>“Will the next pope be right wing?”

    worse. than. hitler.

  35. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Pope Leo XIV will, in some ways, be a natural successor to Pope Francis

    yes in the way that he is the natural successor to Pope Francis.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      Lol.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      They're Catholics. They take comfort in the fact that he's not being supernaturally succeeded.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        Yet.

  36. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

    Political Report from Dogdick, Ga

    Brian Kemp has ruled out running for the Senate in 2026 which assures us of getting another MAGA nutjob like MTG or Hershel Walker as GOP candidate.

    Kemp would have been an easy winner.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

      Kemp +7 over Ossoff

      MAGA Nutjob vs Ossoff - tossup

      Hershel Walker vs Cynthia McKinney - tossup

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        You forgot to switch socks for your reply.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        Remember the time you managed to get your original account permabanned here for posting dark web child porn links?

      3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        In that run-off election when EVERYTHING hinged on the Senate seats, I find it very hard to fathom that the Republican candidate for Georgia PSC District 4 received more votes than did 3 of the 4 Senate candidates. I have to admit the possibility that thousands of people would vote for Jon Ossoff *and* Bubba whatever his name was, and that there is a possibility that thousands of people would vote for Republican Bubba for PSC but not vote for either Republican for Senate. Sure, it's possible. I'm just dumbfounded by it, so much so that if it came out later that somehow 15 or 20k votes for Republican senators were erased but the perp forgot to erase a similar number of votes for Bubba down-ballot, it would make a lot more sense than the alternative voting patterns.

        Raphael Warnock (D) 51.0% 2,289,113
        Kelly Loeffler (R-inc) 49.0% 2,195,841

        Jon Ossoff (D) 50.6 2,269,923
        David Perdue (R-inc) 49.4 2,214,979

        Georgia Public Service Commission, representing District 4
        Lauren McDonald Jr. (R) 50.4 2,234,689
        Daniel Blackman (D) 49.6 2,200,962

        McDonald +38,848 compared to Loeffler
        McDonald +19,710 compared to Perdue

        Blackman -88,151 compared to Warnock
        Blackman -68,961 compared to Ossoff

        Perdue +19,138 compared to Loeffler

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Probably because he's looking in to running for President in 2028. No need to waste time in the Senate if that's his ambition; he's not going to have Obama's worshipful media coverage to make up the difference.

  37. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

    So Democratic Socialism is saying socialist things, but doing capitalist things?

    Um, that totally checks out...

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      Capitalism for me but not for thee.

  38. Marshal   2 months ago

    his slow crawl up the socioeconomic ladder, due to writing books that people value and want to read and representing ideas that people value and want to circulate and his ability to enjoy the attendant conveniences—

    You're giving him way too much credit here. Who bought these books to discover the ideas of a little known Vermont mayor horrifyingly attracted to the central authority of the Soviet Union? Government libraries and government schools. Bernie's "success", like Hillary and Obama's book deals, are a result of figuring out how to contribute propaganda our institutions desire, not appealing to the public.

  39. Marshal   2 months ago

    misunderstanding that all those who seek such power have an innate character defect.

    Ah, a meeting of the minds. There are two groups in the world. One produces things other people need to exchange for what they want. The other seeks political power to force the producers to give them what they want. Amusingly the people who produce nothing refer to the others as "greedy".

  40. NCMB   2 months ago

    One of the very, very few times I agreed with Sanders is when he responded to backlash about being a millionaire from his generally younger supporters. His response was “you can be a millionaire if you write a best-selling book.” In other words, “if you want to be a (fill in the blank) do what it takes be one.”

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Yeah, except he never became a millionaire from that. He became a millionaire from being the biggest jobber in American political history.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      https://babylonbee.com/news/hero-bernie-sanders-buys-another-house-to-make-sure-the-rich-people-dont-get-all-of-them

  41. Apollo 1   2 months ago

    Why does Sanders need to travel anywhere? He can do a Zoom meeting online with viewer interaction. The days of needing to be seen in person are long over.

  42. hpearce   2 months ago

    "is exactly what capitalists like me want more of"

    Promoting CAPITALISM over the FREE MARKET is a tactic merely to oppose SOCIALISM

    Libertarians such as John Stossel and Liz Wolfe should definitely spend more time promoting that

  43. holmegm   2 months ago

    "Ana Camero, a 64-year-old grandma, was deported after mistakenly taking the wrong turn on her way home from work, driving into San Diego's Marine Corps Recruit Depot and failing to provide ID, at which point immigration authorities were called. Her family says she came here illegally but has lived in the U.S. for 20 years and that she does not have a driver's license or any other California or U.S. identification. "

    Ideally, we'd have *worse* penalties the longer you stay here illegally. It doesn't somehow make it *better*.

  44. Uncle Jay   2 months ago

    Comrade Bernie Sanders is a multi-millionaire who flies around in private jets to "fight the oligarchy," and has taken campaign donations from corporations while bragging about he's representing the workers of America.
    There's a word for people like Comrade Bernie, and that word is, "hypocrite."

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      It's not like this wasn't all observed decades ago:

      “Comrades!” he cried. “You do not imagine, I hope, that we pigs are doing this in a spirit of selfishness and privilege? Many of us actually dislike milk and apples. I dislike them myself! Our sole object in taking these things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (and this has been proved by Science, comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary to the well-being of a pig. We pigs are brain-workers. The whole management and organization of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over your welfare. It is for your sake that we drink that milk and eat those apples. Do you know what would happen if we pigs failed in our duty? Jones would come back! Yes, Jones would come back! Surely, comrades,” cried Squealer almost pleadingly, skipping from side to side and whisking his tail, “surely there is no one among you who wants to see Jones come back?”

  45. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Wonder how many prisoners can argue their "well-being" is being affected by their detainment?

    "peaceful and compassionate character."...except for the whole supporting Hamas with their "kill all the jews" parts.

    -----

    "Rumeysa Ozturk, a Turkish national, was detained in March after her visa was revoked by the Trump administration.

    "U.S. District Judge William Sessions slammed the government in ordering Ozturk released while their case against her proceeds

    Her lawyers argued that detention was "affecting her well-being."

    Judge Sessions also highlighted several of the declarations that were submitted in Ozturk's defense, attesting to her "peaceful and compassionate character."

  46. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    One has to wonder why none of the people who forced their way into ICE facility in NJ were shot in the face?

  47. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

    I am older and I've been many places. I NEVER met one person that liked Bernie. Not one. He is a fool and has been his whole political life. He gave us MMT and that is the most failed policy of the last 100 plus years. And now that he teams with AOC you can smell defeat. Maybe he'll call himself the Great Unifier and Reason can't start the cheerleading for the new face of the Party of Youth.A few months he'll be 84. Yet you run articles about how can we tell if Trump has dementia.

    Reason sinks before my eyes. So out of it. Bernie Sanders is the opposite of what Libertarians stand for.

    So here is a real Libertarian on Bernie

    "The lesson Bernie Sanders needs to learn is that you cannot finance a Danish-style welfare state without free markets and large tax increases on the middle class. If you want Danish levels of social spending, you need Danish middle-class tax rates and a relatively unfettered capitalist economy. The fact that he’s unwilling to come out in favor of either half of the Danish formula for a viable social-democratic welfare state is the best evidence that Bernie Sanders is not actually very interested in what it takes to make social democracy work. The great irony of post-1989 political economy is that capitalism has proven itself the most reliable means to socialist ends. Bernie seems not to have gotten the memo."

  48. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

    This is the JFK lie. Yes, I have a truckload of money and I live a sybaritic life and I'm a full out pervert but, hey, I'm liberal and a friend of the poor. You know, give the poor Black folk a turkey on Thanksgiving that says "Vote Democrat" Give me a pass

  49. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

    Here is my longtime view of Bernie from a Libertarian standpoint
    https://media.townhall.com/cdn/hodl/ha/images/2025/131/c95f648e-6df2-4a7a-8222-73cedbf09e27-650x0.jpeg

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