Both Biden's and Trump's Policies Are Making E.V.s More Expensive
Slate Auto hopes to offer affordable electric vehicles, but it has to navigate federal incentives and restrictions in the process.

President Donald Trump and former President Joe Biden completely disagree on electric vehicles (E.V.s) and the government's role in fostering their use. Biden's Inflation Reduction Act apportioned billions of dollars for shoring up production and adoption of clean energy, including $7,500 federal tax credits for anyone who buys an E.V.
Politico wrote in December that Trump was "vowing an all-out assault" on Biden's "efforts to make electric vehicles the new king of the American road."
But Trump is not the only one whose policies make it difficult for E.V. companies to innovate. In fact, Biden's signature law is having a very similar effect. A new bare-bones entry into the market provides a perfect illustration.
E.V.s typically cost more than their gas-burning counterparts. Nearly 60 percent of respondents to a June 2024 Associated Press/NORC poll cited higher prices as a major reason they were unlikely to buy a fully electric car.
In April, Slate Auto—an upstart automaker whose backers include Jeff Bezos—announced its first product, the all-electric Slate Truck. Slate hasn't given exact pricing, but it says the truck will cost $20,000 or less when factoring in the $7,500 federal rebate.
Despite the modern trend of enormous trucks, the two-door pickup is considerably smaller than its competitors; the company says it most closely resembles a 1985 Toyota SR5. And unlike most E.V.s, which feature cutting-edge technology, the Slate Truck is pure meat and potatoes. It doesn't even have a radio, and the windows operate by hand crank. There is one model, available in one color.
But Slate apparently had to make several sacrifices in order to get to that price—specifically, sacrificing innovation in order to navigate federal incentives and restrictions.
E.V. batteries carry a much heavier burden than their traditional counterparts, powering not just the car's electronics but also the motor. Slate plans to build its truck with batteries made from nickel, manganese, and cobalt (NMC). NMC batteries were common for many years, but automakers are starting to switch to lithium iron phosphate (LFP) batteries. Each has benefits, but overall, LFP batteries are cheaper, they charge faster and last longer, and their components are more easily sourced.
Still, Slate plans to use more expensive and less efficient NMC batteries because it's the only way to qualify for the federal rebate.
"We've gone with more of what's in the mainstream right now and that many others in the industry are using. So we're using more of what's been scaled within the U.S.," Slate Auto CEO Chris Barman told InsideEVs. "For LFP, most of those materials would come out of China or elsewhere."
The Inflation Reduction Act established very particular sourcing requirements for the E.V. tax credits: By the end of the decade, a vehicle can only qualify for the credit if 100 percent of its battery's components are "manufactured or assembled in North America" and 80 percent of the battery's critical minerals are "extracted or processed in the United States or a U.S. free-trade agreement partner or recycled in North America."
The same week Slate Auto debuted the Slate Truck, South Korean battery manufacturer SK On announced it would build NMC batteries for the trucks in the U.S.
Setting aside Biden's sourcing requirements, Trump's tariffs would effectively put Chinese-sourced materials out of reach: Last month, the president imposed 10 percent tariffs on most countries, while tariffs on China currently stand at 124 percent.
"Our mantra from the beginning was we wanted to source as much domestic content as we could," Barman added. To that end, Slate hopes to further avoid tariffs by building its truck in Indiana. But as InsideEVs' Tim Levin noted, "There are some old-school parts it needs that simply aren't made in the U.S. anymore. For example, Slate imports its hand-crank window systems from Brazil," on which Trump applied 10 percent tariffs last month.
Trump clearly has little love for E.V.s, saying on the campaign trail he would kill the tax credit for E.V. purchases. Killing that incentive could have positive effects on the market, allowing companies to source their parts and components more efficiently. But Trump's tariffs would just drive those costs right back up.
Automakers have spent years chasing the goal of E.V.s that are affordable for everyday consumers. Tesla CEO Elon Musk promised in 2020 that within three years, his company would develop a passenger vehicle that only cost $25,000; four years later, Musk told investors that a $25,000 Tesla was "pointless," "silly," and "completely at odds with what we believe."
A no-frills electric truck costing less than $20,000 could be revolutionary. But the policies of each of the last two presidents make it increasingly difficult to achieve that goal as efficiently as simply letting the market lead.
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Nope.
The EVs cost the same as always.
All that is changing is who pays which parts of the cost.
The EVs cost the same as always.
IDK. There's some stuff that Reason is deliberately losing in the mix.
The Slate has no real screen or "infotainment" center to speak of. It won't self-drive. It doesn't have it's own WiFi and/or GPS. However, hundreds of accessories and you own and maintain the car on your terms... supposedly... for now...
Now, I'm not saying you *will* be able to buy a $20K truck and, 5 yrs. down the line, drop the $10K (or whatever) used battery out of it and install a new, custom battery... or spend less than a grand, put a diesel generator in the bed, wire it to the battery and get more range than your average Tesla, but they aren't seemingly trying to purge you from the ecosystem you bought into.
^BINGO... Deserves a repeat... +1000000
"All that is changing is who pays which parts of the cost."
Yahtzee…shouldn’t be repeated. -1000000000000
Stop subsidizing EVs. Stop regulating ICE cars out of market.
But according to Joe that makes them more expensive. JFC do they hire anything but progs at this place?
Not anymore. Stossel is a legit libertarian, and Good Liz is mostly….. good. That’s it’s about it. Their hiring leftists out of college FFS (Little Emma).
Robbie has his moments. Funnily enough, he's usually more libertarian on his TV show than he is in some of his articles.
+1
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Whaaaaaa!! Baby cry cry!!!
Slate is doomed.
I actually agree. I think the bubble burst once people started lighting Tesla's on fire. Elon was never going to be able to live up to the increasingly absurd moral righteousness bubble these people had generated. The bubble was going to pop and all their masks were going to slip eventually.
BYD currently sells twice as many EV's as Tesla - at a price in Europe (meaning no US tax credit) of $26,000. In China - $8000 though that probably includes subsidies of some sort. $21,000 in Mexico (no EV subsidies but this is after a 16% VAT) .
The US is a protectionist backwater for EV's - and it is already having the anti-competitive effect.
Yeah. In China you can get a very basic EV essentially for the cost of Biden's subsidy.
Me Chinese
Me play joke
Me put Covid in your throat!
Ecuador and Brazil--both bullied into bankruptcy by George Holy War Bush enforcing 1986-7-8 GOP prohibition enactments--now have major ports under CHICOM control. Happy now? So Donnie and E-lawn pandering to DEA televangelists gotcha whatcha wanted? Brazilian electrical outlets were compatible with USA wall plugs--until jacbooted minions marched and bombed into Panama because Reefer Madness and wrecked all the economies south of Brownsville. Now, by law and regulatory coercion, all building codes require French and Swiss plugs and wall outlets. 'Murrican appliances can sit over there on that bench marked "Group Dubya." Happy now?
Hank is Sqrlsy's dad.
Prove me wrong.
Which is totally irrelevant: EV's suck.
Says the guy who wants sex robots to get here as soon as possible. 😉
But the electricity comes from nowhere by PFM! The batteries are recyclable in an alternate universe! How could EVs cost more?!
EVs are cheap now; just ask someone trying to sell one.
EVs suck.
The proper libertarian response is that there should be NO subsidies for EVs. Or windmills or solar panels. A true libertarian would know this and not need an explanation. But Reason keeps appropriating the libertarian name while pushing for very un-libertarian policies.
Unlike Jesus Caucus nationalsocialists or anarcho-communist infiltrators?
Sure Hank. But what about girl bullying at Comstock?
^+1.
Well DOH! E-lawn Jockey Muskovite funds The Don's girl-bullying televangelist campaign with $150M. So now Donnie scratches E-lawn's back by jacking up the price of Teslas. Why act surprised?
Needs more Comstock act. And cowbell. Yeah more cowbell.
He’s devolved to almost complete gibberish.
How can you tell?
If only this were the nineteen-eighties and televangelists were still a thing.
Not STEALING $7500 for my neighbors makes my life more Expensive!!! /s
Seriously Reason. That is the BS you're peddling now?
^+1.
Remember when you supported invading Iraq because you wanted cheap oil?? Was it worth $3 trillion to make oil more expensive??
Whaaat?
Given that you are a TDS addled pile of shit, that claim is amazing even for you!
Got even a single cite to support that bullshit claim?
Fuck off and die, asshole.
How else are you going to "Both Sides" this issue?
Joe, I’ve tried to read your articles, but if you are a libertarian you need to think before you write. How in God’s name do you know what Trump thinks? Because he cuts EV incentives he hates EVs? Like the ones produced by his buddy Elon? Good grief. Can you just move to Salon, the Nation, or some other liberal/Communist rag? You have no concept of libertarianism. Clue: NO GOVERNMENT SUPPORT. Please quit Reason, fuck off, or die.
Yeah!! Libertarians support tariffs and oppose immigration and vote for whites like John McStain and Romney!!
Yeah!! Lefty steaming piles of shit oppose tariffs and support free entry into the US by violent gang members and vote for other steaming piles of lefty shit!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck off and die, slimy pile of TDS-addled shit. Make your dog happy.
Remember, if you don't want some taxpayers paying for other people's cars and solar panels you're anti-EV, anti-Solar and anti-Science! And if you are against forcing people to buy cars they don't want you're a fascist!
Mind reading is what passes for journalism and commentary in the leftist press. Look at any "liberal/Communist rag" like the ones you mentioned, and you'll see one article after another all about what someone else thinks and feels. It's like they really believe they're telepaths. And their readers believe it.
>Both Biden's and Trump's Policies Are Making E.V.s More Expensive
OK? And?
Let them be expensive - get rid of the tax rebates and subsidies too.
>Still, Slate plans to use more expensive and less efficient NMC batteries because it's the only way to qualify for the federal rebate.
You're complaining that the company had to make a decision in order for rich people to leech off poor taxpayers.
You don't want a *libertarian* solution (end the subsidies), you just want daddy government to be more liberal in spending my money.
The power elite don't actually give a shit about EVs or ICEs. The real goal is the elimination of personal transportation. The mobility of western middle class people is a serious obstacle to full authoritarianism. You can't keep people in their 15 Minute Ghetto as long as they own cars that they can drive freely on public roads.
keep people in their 15 Minute Ghetto
Ghetto, reservation, plantation... whatever small plot of land you would want to keep people on.
Try buying an American made four door IC sedan.
That's not the only reason. Lithium Ion NMC batteries are slower to charge, but they are smaller, so more energy density, and better performance in cold weather. And of course they don't depend on minerals from China.
The only thing that made EVs even remotely attractive in the first place was giant fucking subsidies and ridiculous levels of government intervention.
Fuck you, cut spending.
No, they are objectively great, and I bought mine without any subsidies (was a used car, and my income is too high, so I wasn't eligible).
Your match-box on wheels that can't climb hills? Well good for you though you do realize your No Subsidies is complete BS. The whole market is subsidized to death not just the sale-point.
USPS tried to do E.V.s and found that any vehicle as-big or bigger than a Ford Explorer it costs more for the Electricity than it does for the Gas. That's JUST fuel costs.
EV has a market - but until Gov-Guns gets the F'Out of the equation nobody is going to know the difference on whether they're being 'Gun'-Forced into it or not.
Can't climb hills? It's an SUV with motorcyle accelration. And I know this because I actually raced a gasoline powered motorcycle.
"No, they are objectively great,..."
No, they suck under about any metric.
Quieter, fewer parts, better acceleration, and don't need gas stations. Fully charge at home for less than $20 a month. The many pros greatly outweigh the few cons.
""But Trump is not the only one whose policies make it difficult for E.V. companies to innovate. In fact, Biden's signature law is having a very similar effect. A new bare-bones entry into the market provides a perfect illustration.""
No mention of Biden's 2024 Tariffs?
Biden gave subsidies AND raised the tariffs.