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Media Criticism

Sick and Tired of the Pronoun Police

They/them is tedious.

Robby Soave | 4.10.2025 3:36 PM

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The Trump administration has made it clear that they will not respond to emails from reporters who bother to stipulate their preferred pronouns.

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"As a matter of policy, we do not respond to reporters with pronouns in their bios," White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told a New York Times reporter who had asked an unrelated question. Leavitt apparently means business; White House comms staffers have declined to answer several inquiries on this basis, according to the Times.

This is a kind of rebellion against an increasingly common progressive accommodation of gender nonconforming individuals—the idea being that there are some people whose outward gender presentation does not match their self-identification, and if we all adopted the habit of stating our preferred pronouns outright, we would spare these people from having to correct everyone else all the time. Conservatives charge that pronoun listers are overcomplicating a fundamental simple matter: There are just two genders, and in the overwhelming majority of cases, it is perfectly obvious who belongs to which pronouns. On the other hand, sometimes it's not obvious whether you are emailing a man or a woman—some names are gender neutral.

Thus we find ourselves in a situation where a new, empowered conservative movement has taken something that is, charitably speaking, kind of cringe and annoying, and attacked it in a maximally dramatic fashion. It's weird and off-putting to get really worked up about pronoun policing, and it's also weird and off-putting to get worked up about policing pronoun policing. Can everyone calm down?

They/Them

Speaking of people who need to calm down about pronouns… a moment from CNN's town hall with Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.) on Wednesday night caught fire on social media. In the clip, an audience participant corrects host Anderson Cooper, who naively assumes the woman (?) goes by she. Instead, the question-asker demands a they pronoun.

An attendee at CNN's Bernie Sanders town hall corrects Anderson Cooper on pronouns: pic.twitter.com/GRhkVXst6o

— Washington Free Beacon (@FreeBeacon) April 10, 2025

What's funny about this exchange is that the subsequent question for Sanders was something along the lines of: How can the Democrats win back various demographic groups—men, minorities, etc.—who are fleeing the party in record numbers? What Democrats really need is an attitude adjustment: It's precisely this condescending, hectoring schoolmarm routine that has so thoroughly repelled voters, particularly young males. Just be normal is an underrated rule of politics. Telling someone you want to be called they/them just strikes a lot of people as abnormal.

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  1. Overall, I liked the season. I'm not sure whether I liked it more or less than the previous two. It was a bit slower, perhaps.
  2. I found it odd that the other characters were not given time to react to what was effectively a mass shooting at the hotel. We got just the briefest glimpse of the trio of ladies, who did not seem overly traumatized. How did Chloe feel about the deaths of Rick and Chelsea? What about Saxon—did he know about it? For that matter, we didn't see the Ratliff family react to the near-death of Lochlan at all.
  3. My two favorite scenes were Victoria Ratliff's Randian speech to her daughter about why they were entitled to enjoy the fruits of their labor and Laurie's declaration that at the end of the day, she is in fact happy for her friends.
  4. I liked the resolution of Belinda's storyline; it was appealing that she effectively did to Pornchai exactly what Tanya did to her in Season One.
  5. If I were the showrunner, I would make another self-contained season, perhaps featuring Belinda's son, and then do a final reunion season back in Hawaii. This season would include various characters from seasons one through four—in particular, Greg/Gary, who must finally get his comeuppance!

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  1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    The solution is obvious.
    If someone starts proclaiming that they can not accept reality, turn around and walk away.
    Anderson Cooper should have just invited HER to leave immediately as SHE is clearly unable to handle the real world. If SHE didn't leave, he should have had security escort her out.

    1. the-machine   2 months ago

      Sssssooo, what you're suggesting is that what Anderson should have done was escalate the exchange to a point of hostility? Honestly, I think he handled the situation perfectly.

  2. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

    I am not sure there is much choice to do with this other than ignore the pronouns or to just say "no" that we are not accommodating this foolishness.

  3. Minadin   2 months ago

    What's funny about this exchange is that the subsequent question for Sanders was something along the lines of: How can the Democrats win back various demographic groups—men, minorities, etc.—who are fleeing the party in record numbers? What Democrats really need is an attitude adjustment: It's precisely this condescending, hectoring schoolmarm routine that has so thoroughly repelled voters . . .

    First she scolds a fellow believer on some woke nonsense, then she asks why people of all sorts are leaving the democrat party?

    Sounds like a good premise for a comedy skit.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      It's comedy gold. Still my favorite is the communist meeting where they are discussing how to get blue collared men to join the cause but are constantly telling others to not clap because the noise is triggering. Obviously not going to reach out to them on a construction site.

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

        Jazz hands.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Pretty much the Mike based listener questions here.

  4. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   2 months ago

    “Preferred pronoun” is a retarded concept. Pronouns are used when the subject person is not present.

    1. See.More   2 months ago

      ^ 100%

      Pronoun policing is attempting to exert control over one individual's speech to others that does not include the subject.

      In a conversation with a gender-non-conformist, the pronouns that will be used to identify that person are second-person pronouns (you and its variation). But that's not what they're attempting to polce. They're attempting to police third-person pronounds (he, she, and their variations) that refer to that person when we're talking about them to someone else.

      When "corrected" by someone I tend to reply, "I'm talking about you, not to you."

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

        Pronoun policing is attempting to exert control over the individual.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Well said.

      3. Zeb   2 months ago

        My pronouns are I/me. How you refer to me is up to you, but it will be a lot less confusing if you use masculine pronouns when referring to me in the third person.

        1. Rise of the Impedance   2 months ago

          Mine are Lord/Master.

    2. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

      Not always. Imagine Alice, Bob, and Carol discussing lunch plans.

      Alice: How about Olive Garden?

      Bob: I hate their breadsticks.

      Carol: He's got a point. How about the Spaghetti Factory?

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

        Are you so stupid as to not understand that the breadsticks do not belong to A,B, or C, but belong to OG, which in fact is not present and not being addressed?

        Or the fact that “their” is not even a pronoun, but a modifying adjective?

        A,B, or C to OG employee “I hate YOUR breadsticks”

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          I think you are missing the very simple point. I'm pretty sure he's just saying that people do often use third person pronouns to refer to people who are present.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

            I bet if people recorded themselves all day and reviewed it that evening, they'd be surprised how many times third person is used like that.

          2. mad.casual   2 months ago

            It's missed point sperg dunks all the way down.

            Not present , isn't the intended recipient, or being spoken to directly...

        2. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          Uh, dude, you need to calm down and read what is wrote.

      2. Rossami   2 months ago

        If you're going to force people to think about work choice at that level, it's far easier for Carol to switch to "You've got a point. How about..." than to try to remember Bob's ideosyncratic choice du jour.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          Nuts to that. I don't pay attention to their nonsense. If they don't like it, they can butt out and go to lunch by themselves. If they complain to HR, I'll change my pronouns daily, and not tell anyone how to pronounce "xylrz/mofft/faaraan".

          1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

            Tell them your preferred pronoun is "nigger".

            1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

              Or "master(massa)".

              I've told people my pronouns are "My lord and his majesty". They don't use them.

      3. Iwanna Newname   2 months ago

        Ted: How about Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice?

      4. epsilon given   2 months ago

        At that point, Carol isn't talking to Bob. She's talking to everyone but Bob.

        If she wanted to talk to Bob directly, she would say "you have a point".

        And what's worse, if there were a lot of people, and more than one point is being considered, Carol can no longer say "he". She has to say "Bob has a point." Because at that point, pronouns are too ambiguous to be useful.

        1. Davy C   2 months ago

          The claim was "Pronouns are used when the subject person is not present." She may not be talking to Bob, but he's present.

          And in an in-person conversation, which "he" is meant can be indicated by a subtle gesture.

  5. Overt   2 months ago

    "Thus we find ourselves in a situation where a new, empowered conservative movement has taken something that is, charitably speaking, kind of cringe and annoying, and attacked it in a maximally dramatic fashion"

    Yes, Republicans pounce, we get it Soave.

    But here's the thing: that isn't the point the Trump administration is making. They are saying that they fundamentally disagree with the assumption that Gender can be culturally defined separately from Sex.

    Now you can disagree with this point, but you don't get to decide who is allowed to make the point and who is wrong to argue the other side.

    This notion of gender fluidity is not just a "given". It is a drastic and radical departure from thousands of years of cultural precedent and if certain reporters are going to insist on pushing that radicalism, then why shouldn't the president get to push the conservative position here?

    1. carlos-e-queso   2 months ago

      Reason editors ever cling to their testimonies of leftist dogmas. The whole bastardization of the English language as a cynical political strategy over decades is just "kind of cringe," according to Soave -- negligible, really. But the "empowered conservatives" who finally push back against it in 2025 are the real monsters. Truly brilliant analysis.

  6. BikeRider   2 months ago

    I frequently interact via email with people from Asia and Africa. While all communication is in English, their names tell me nothing about their gender unless they've taken on a "Western" nickname. It should be useful to include pronouns in email signatures (actual pronouns, not "preferred" pronouns). Unfortunately, the current political overtones of pronouns could do more harm than good for the group I'm in communication with.

    1. Zeb   2 months ago

      Maybe we should bring back using Mr. Mrs. Ms. etc. when identifying ourselves to strangers.

      Or just let them correct you if you get it wrong and they care.

      1. BikeRider   2 months ago

        That's a great point. When did we stop doing that?

        1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

          We stopped doing that when feminists decided it was oppression for them to have to reveal whether they're married.

          1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

            I thought that's was Ms. was for, distinct from Miss or Mrs.

  7. Marshal   2 months ago

    On the other hand, sometimes it's not obvious whether you are emailing a man or a woman—some names are gender neutral.

    We need to understand this isn't actually a problem. Someone using the wrong word does nothing to you. Recognizing this highlights what is going on: left wingers pretend this is important because it allows them to play victim and forces you to waste your focus on appeasing them. This is the same reason they constantly change terminology and brand anyone who doesn't keep up as a racist. It's classic cult behavior by framing all interactions as you needing to satisfy their ever-changing demands.

    It's weird and off-putting to get really worked up about pronoun policing, and it's also weird and off-putting to get worked up about policing pronoun policing.

    Doing nothing accepts the end-state that anyone not doing this is branded anti-LGBTQEIEIO. Without opposition even something most people think is nonsense will eventually become standard. While I think almost everyone outside the 10-15% of leftist ideologues wishes it had never been introduced once it has there is only acceptance or opposition. Your position is spineless.

    1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

      People have been using the wrong "pronouns" for centuries, millennia, and haven't been hurt yet. Special people can just get stuffed for all I care.

      1. Marshal   2 months ago

        True enough that none of us have to care. But if your employer comes to care - and if you work for government, NGOs, most media, or in academia they almost certainly already do - not submitting to these manipulative tactics can have career limiting impacts.

        That's why normalizing opposition is important. The left's goal is for the entire economy to function like their own institutions already do where political loyalty is the primary qualification. This forces everyone to make outward signs of piety and swallow their opposition which makes it seem like everyone supports the left.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        My own mother would regularly say "tell your sister dinners ready" or similar. Didn't have any sisters that I knew of...only brothers. Or "Bob, Jim, Billy...*you*, whichever one you are you know who you are, come over here...".

      3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        That'th it! (to camera) Pronoun trouble.(to BUGS) It'th not "he doesn't have to shoot YOU now", it's "he doesn't have to shoot ME now." (grows excited) Well, I say he DOES have to shoot me now! (ELMER shrug s and shoots him again.) --from Rabbit Seasoning, 1952. Chuck Jones, director.

    2. epsilon given   2 months ago

      What's worse, if I'm emailing someone, it doesn't matter if his name is gender neutral, masculine, feminine, or any number of other possible genders. I need only one pronoun:

      Subject: A random email
      To: A random person of unknown gender

      Hey, {{name_of_person}}, YOU should read my email!

  8. Hendo   2 months ago

    It's a bit surprising, at a libertarian magazine, that Robby fails to distinguish between the belief that pronoun stipulation is tedious, on the one hand, and the government's decision to exclude reporters based on their pronoun stipulation, on the other.

    Surely, if you hold to a reasonable libertarian concept of individual freedom and also of government accountability, it is possible to believe both that pronoun announcements are tedious but also that the government shouldn't be choosing which reporters to respond to based on their pronoun announcements. Shame Robby didn't think that was important enough to mention.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      News for you. It isn't important enough.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Shirley if you hold to a reasonable libertarian concept of individual freedom you wouldn't advance such a malignant interpretation of individual liberty.

      The White House didn't start this fight, the 1A doesn't say "The White House has to us the preferred pronouns of the press corps.", and you too can go fuck yourself for being so cravenly dishonest.

      1. Hendo   2 months ago

        You're an idiot.

        I'm not arguing that the White House has to use their preferred pronouns. If all they were doing was saying, "We're not interested in using your preferred pronouns," we wouldn't be here. Learn how to read.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      The room holds 25 reporters (let's say) and 50 reporters apply for the pass for the day. How does the government chose? Any method is discriminatory on some basis, even random lots discriminate against the unlucky. First come, first served discriminates against those with time-management issues. "Major" publications first discriminates against smaller publications.

  9. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

    Isn't this just Robbie arguing "let the wokie win" since any and every response to their attacks are the only things lefties like Robbie ever react to.

  10. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Robbie Suave
    Him/Hair

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   2 months ago

      Lol

  11. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

    "They" won the battle but lost the war. Or in the words of Homer Simpson, "let the baby have his bottle," especially when they are battling amongst themselves.

  12. swillfredo pareto   2 months ago

    some people whose outward gender presentation does not match their self-identification

    Don't play their retarded game. I could not give less of a fuck what any of these narcissistic assholes' gender is, or the pronouns associated with it. Use the pronouns the English language assigns to their sex. Regardless of their beliefs, the obstetrician who delivered them didn't assign it, their DNA did.

  13. Liberty_Belle   2 months ago

    "As a matter of policy, we do not respond to reporters with pronouns in their bios," is the most 12-year-old thing I've heard in a long time.

    Not even, "you got pissy when I referred to you as the wrong pronoun." No, just the mere presence of it in a text block is stopping grown adults from their official jobs. Pathetic.

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      Why would anyone respond to someone with either no grasp on reality or a narcissistic compulsion to make the world bend to their whims? Fuck these crazies

    2. One-Punch_Man   2 months ago

      Umm, there job is to decide what questions to answer. No-where does it say they have to answer everyone. Funny, did you complain when the dems were in power and ignoring people?

      There are limited resources. They feel the resources are spent better else where. Sorry, you can't grasp that

  14. Rossami   2 months ago

    re: "On the other hand, sometimes it's not obvious whether you are emailing a man or a woman"

    In what scenario is that relevant? If I'm emailing you, the only pronouns in use are I, me, my, you, your, we and ours. In English, gender only applies to third-person pronouns which, by definition, I will never use in a communication to the person the pronoun refers to.

    You'd be on stronger ground if the question were which honorific to use (Mr, Mrs, Ms, etc) but we've apparently sailed right past that reasonable question to this silliness over third-person pronouns.

  15. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

    I think the entire concept of gender pronouns needs to go away.
    1. English is not a gendered language. Gendered pronouns are the last vestiges of gendered language and make no sense in the context of English.
    2. Gendered pronouns identify people based on gender, and for most gender is not their defining characteristic. Gendered pronouns raise gender above all others.
    3. With so many people going by different pronouns or when their gender is not obvious (is Leslie or Ashley a him or her?) it just creates too many opportunities to unintentionally misgender and insult people.

    We should pick a single set of pronouns and use those for everyone.

    1. Zeb   2 months ago

      For almost all people gender/sex is an obvious and easy to spot characteristic. Which makes gendered pronouns useful in making communication clearer, even if it isn't strictly necessary to be understood. If they weren't useful in the language, people would have stopped using them naturally. We don't need anyone engineering the English language for us.

      1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

        Most languages are engineered with formalized grammar, punctuation, definitions, and spellings.

        1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

          You want to reengineer it to fit your Marxist specifications.
          Fuck you

        2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

          No, most are not. A few languages, like French or Mandarin Chinese, have a history of being managed by an official body that rules on proper grammar and vocabulary, but they are exceptional.

        3. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

          Golly, Mulva?

        4. DesigNate   2 months ago

          Fuck off, slaver.

        5. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          This is completely and utterly wrong. Except for perhaps Esperanto, no language was ever engineered.

          1. epsilon given   2 months ago

            Well, Lojban, Klingon, various Tolkien languages, etc as well -- but these are all "exceptions that prove the rule".

            What's worse, when they get to a "critical mass" of speakers, even created languages start to evolve over time.

    2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      If Leslie or Ashley feel insulted because someone mistakenly assumed they were the opposite sex and had to be corrected, then they need to grow the fuck up.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        That is easy for you to say. What if you are applying for a job at a company from "Leslie" the hiring manager? How would you address your cover letter? How would you address "Leslie" in a formal email? (Hint: Not with 'Dear Leslie, ...' )

        1. DesigNate   2 months ago

          To Whom It May Concern,
          Or
          Dear Sir/Madam,

          I learned that in like 7th grade when I took HomeEc. Jesus Christ.

    3. Minadin   2 months ago

      I think . . .

      Horse Shit you do.

      Go promote the use of 'LatinX' a bunch more and see how much more Latino vote your side loses with that stupid culture war / cultural colonialism bullshit.

      Modern English has always had gendered pronouns, hundred of years. It isn't completely ingrained into all of the nouns and articles like it is in Spanish, but it's still present. You would see it if you knew what to look for, but you don't apparently know much about languages, even your own. Sit down.

      Boludo.

  16. Anastasia Beaverhausen   2 months ago

    Why is it so problematic to call someone what they WANT to be called? Robby obviously wants to be called Robby and not Bob, Bobert, or Robert. He/she/they is absolutely no different. People who can't have simple decency and courtesy to call someone by the name or pronoun they request is obnoxious and rude.

    1. Zeb   2 months ago

      And people not accepting that if you are in fact a male, some people are going to call you "sir" sometimes is also pretty obnoxious and rude.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Lots of women of a certain age get fully enraged if you call them "ma'am" instead of "miss".

    2. Rossami   2 months ago

      Why is it so problematic to remember that I'm not talking to you when I use third-person pronouns about you. People who are outraged over pronouns are almost never the people being referred to - if they were, the pronouns would be I, you and we. Instead, it's manufactured outrage on someone else's behalf. How do you not see how obnoxious and incivil that pronoun policing is?

      As evidence of why I think this is all manufactured outrage, note that nobody bats an eye when you make a mistake in honorifics (Mr vs Mrs vs Ms) - it's just quietly and politely corrected by the person being addressed. Deciding to argue over long-established usage of third-party pronouns was just picking a fight for the sake of it.

      1. Stuck in California   2 months ago

        > when you make a mistake in honorifics (Mr vs Mrs vs Ms) - it's just quietly and politely corrected

        https://youtu.be/C41o5a6NeNE

    3. BikeRider   2 months ago

      Because names are intended to be personal and pronouns serve a different grammatical function. Consider the sentence: "Robby's Ford broke down because he did not maintain it properly."

      If we are going to personalize all pronouns and Robby wants "ze" instead of "he" then why can't Ford decide that we should use "ix" instead of "it" when referring to Fords. Now it becomes: "Robby's Ford broke down because ze did not maintain ix properly."

    4. шинка   2 months ago

      https://youtu.be/Ef9QnZVpVd8?si=7sIvLt_ZO1fr0Yti

      1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 months ago

        Ask Mrs. Gray
        https://youtu.be/9rcIJIWqYmo?t=28

        1. шинка   2 months ago

          Fantastic movie! Big Clint Eastwood fan!

    5. Think It Through   2 months ago

      A name (yours) is entirely different than a pronoun and other common words (everyone's). The pronoun isn't yours and you don't get to choose how I use it, or which one I use.

    6. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      If they are requesting a name with deceptive of manipulative intent, then they are they ones being obnoxious or rude.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        If they are requesting a name with deceptive of manipulative intent

        So a person with a legal birth name of "Robert" asks to be referred to as "Bob". That sure sounds deceptive to me - that's not his legal birth name! Who is he trying to fool and what type of delusion does he want to try to force me to accept? It ought to be illegal! I demand that the government force Robert to only be referred to as Robert and nothing else!

        1. Minadin   2 months ago

          'Bob' is not a pronoun.

          This is more like, if my name were spelled 'Steve', but I insist to everyone that it's actually pronounced 'Tim'. And then got super offended when everyone I met tried to refer to me as 'Steve'.

          (BTW, that's how you do an actual fucking analogy without involving wildlife in improbable situations)

          1. DesigNate   2 months ago

            I’m convinced he does these horrible analogies on purpose.

    7. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      If I ask all Black people to refer to me as "massa" or "boss", are they being obnoxious and rude if they refuse?

  17. шинка   2 months ago

    I got muted by another user yesterday for using foul language (I was clucking around saying cluck this and cluck that, so I deserved it). I think that's the best approach. You want me to use your preferred pronouns, yeah, I'm going to ignore that.

  18. mad.casual   2 months ago

    Conservatives charge that pronoun listers are overcomplicating a fundamental simple matter: There are just two genders, and in the overwhelming majority of cases, it is perfectly obvious who belongs to which pronouns. On the other hand, sometimes it's not obvious whether you are emailing a man or a woman—some names are gender neutral.

    [Rubs temples]

    Go fuck yourself Robbie. Conservatives didn't insist shit. When they are/were commanded to speak in a specific fashion, they refused. Even if they did insist, they don't insist there are only two genders. They don't ask "Which gender do you mean?" whenever someone uses the words they/them/their/I/me/we/each/any/all/our/who/which/what/etc./etc./etc. They don't ask "Do you mean el Papa or la Papa?"

    When commanded to use the English language by people who self-evidently don't have even a 3rd grade understanding of English or biology and an outsized lust for controlling other peoples' speech, they side with the biology and gender norms that exist across language and even species and tell retarded tin pot grammar flunkies-turned-Nazis to fuck off.

    When forced to admire the Emperor's clothes they accurately state that he is a naked authoritarian. GTFO with your "They insist that they can see through his clothes." bullshit.

    1. Liberty_Belle   2 months ago

      Not all conservatives, but definitely the performative arts conservatives in Washington are the ones making hay out of this. If someone lists pronouns in their sig or bio, they are giving you a guide so you don't have to guess. Whether you use it or not is up to you. But to not respond to your job because you are having a hissy-fit over them having dared to put pronouns in a text block of an email is just stupid.

      1. epsilon given   2 months ago

        I, for one, am sick and tired of claiming that people "dare" to put their pronouns in their bio, when the reality is that in many cases, refusing to do so is the daring position.

        Declaring you won't put up with pronouns -- in President Trump's case, refusing to acknowledge certain reporters -- is taking a stand against this totalitarian manipulation. I'm glad that people are standing up against it!

  19. SIV   2 months ago

    Is White Lotus some streaming garbage show watched mostly by white women?

  20. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

    There are just two genders

    No. There are just two sexes. There are zero genders. "Gender" is just an ill-defined pop culture concept with no objective reality.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      [tilts hand]

      There are 3 genders. Masculine, feminine, and neuter or other. However, just like 10 or 30 round magazines, the number and any notion of 'in common use' is irrelevant because it's not about the number of genders or the number of rounds criminals fire or what is commonly used or the fact that the English language is rather exceptionally non-gendered any more than LatinX languages are near-universally gendered, it's about forcing other people to bend the knee.

      Same with 'least burdensome' "libertarians" supporting deliberately and conspicuously burdensome social activism. They clearly don't want less individual burden and more individual freedom, they just want people to bend the knee to their morality and not their own or someone else's.

  21. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

    Telling someone you want to be called they/them just strikes a lot of people as abnormal.

    It IS abnormal. But so what? WE ARE ALL ABNORMAL. Every single one of us. There is no such thing as the "normal person". We are all unique individuals. Maybe instead of trying to force everyone to conform to some fake standard of "normalcy" we can acknowledge people for who they are.

    1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

      So said the child molester.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        So sorry you are a child molester. Please get help.

    2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      we can acknowledge people for who they are.

      Exactly. Let's acknowledge that males are male and females are female, and not play along with the deceptions and delusions of those who claim otherwise.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        A male is more than just a penis, and a female is more than just a vagina. It is ironic that the team which claims to be "standing up for women" thinks a female is nothing more than her sex organ.

        1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

          A male is more than just a penis, and a female is more than just a vagina.

          That's right. The difference between a male and a female is pervasive and profound. That's why it's crazy not to acknowledge and respect the difference.

    3. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      WE ARE ALL ABNORMAL.

      No, we're not. It's just you.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        IIRC you have previously stated that you think distribution of child pornography should not be illegal. That is not a "normal" position to take. That makes you "abnormal".

        1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

          No, I have never stated that.

  22. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago
  23. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

    I just refuse to butcher the English language by using words inappropriately on purpose.

  24. AT   2 months ago

    On the other hand, sometimes it's not obvious whether you are emailing a man or a woman—some names are gender neutral.

    We figured that one out centuries ago.

    "To whom it may concern,"
    "Dear sir/madam,"
    "Good afternoon,"
    "Hi,"

    Followed by the subject matter of your communication.

    and attacked it in a maximally dramatic fashion.

    Much like the LGBT Pedo attacked normalcy in a maximally dramatic fashion, as they demanded that EVERYONE participate in their game of make-believe.

    What Democrats really need is an attitude adjustment

    No, they need involuntary commitment and a dedicated, compassionate effort of heavy deprogramming by skilled doctors and scientists (and clergy).

  25. JeremyR   2 months ago

    Meh. I used to have really long hair in the 80s and 90s. I got called a woman a lot of times, both as an insult and as a mistake. Oh no, boo hoo.

    1. DesigNate   2 months ago

      Don’t you understand? You’re a victim!!!1!1!1!

    2. AT   2 months ago

      That is literal violence.

  26. Rick James   2 months ago

    How do you do my fellow kids? Isn't this woke stuff just the worst?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Excuse me you did not refer to me in my preferred pronoun. I identify as kill-all-pedos-&-marxists

  27. holmegm   2 months ago

    Yes, I mean if only someone brash who didn't care what people think about him would come along to smash the pronoun police ... oh wait.

  28. JKillion   2 months ago

    Not only are "they/them" pronouns tedious, they are fluid. You can change your pronouns weekly, daily, etc. To expect others to remember your "preferred" pronouns is the height of narcissism.

    1. Anastasia Beaverhausen   2 months ago

      Oh puhleeze. People do NOT change their pronouns "weekly, daily, etc." That's so obviously the viewpoint from right-wing straight white dudes in their La-Z-Thinking Recliners. Grow up and join the real world.

      1. epsilon given   2 months ago

        I'm sick of the gaslighting. We've seen the videos of people who talk about changing their pronouns often. We've read the essays about how gender can change based on mood. They cheerlead it!

  29. JohnZ   2 months ago

    Here's my preferred pronoun,"GO F***YOURSELF".

  30. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

    How can the same people screaming about Orwell this and Orwell that not recognize the Orwellian nature of these Newspeak changes?

    Is it (D)ifferent somehow?

    1. One-Punch_Man   2 months ago

      Well, that woman gave a perfect reason why. You used my wrong people you evil person! Now, how can we get people to come back to our party.

      While it's mostly D (all for pronouns), it's self entitlement. They expect the world to conform constantly to them or they can't handle it.

  31. NM Dave   2 months ago

    My ever-so-correct son works for a large credit union in sales and training, and the other day he was telling me an anecdote involving a branch president's interaction with his staff. My son kept switching between they and him, and finally I had to stop him and tell him that using "they" was confusing me to the point that I had no idea who was saying what. I finally had to stop him to clarify. I honestly don't care what gender, if any, you are or want to be, but pick a pronoun that we can all understand, one that doesn't have multiple meanings. You'd think that this community could do better, with the entirety of the English language at their disposal.

  32. holmegm   2 months ago

    My preferred pronoun is "His Imperial Majesty".

    1. JohnZ   2 months ago

      Mine is "Grand Exultant High Emperor of the Universe , Palpatine!!
      Emperor Ming ain't got nuthin on me.
      Besides I gots a whole lotta Star Troopers with blasters an sheit.

  33. One-Punch_Man   2 months ago

    Ahh, remember being called a name and not caring? Good times.

    Look if you get worked up that someone that doesn't know you assume a certain pronoun, you have issues. Stop being a victim and just accept it.

    Same as "hey a$$hole" or "loser" or " ChemJeff". Just ignore and more on. It's called being an adult.

  34. epsilon given   2 months ago

    As an autistic ADHDer, I have to "mask" myself when around "normal" people -- this is mostly subconscious, and to the extent that I don't do it, I'm punished via bullying, because there's an unwritten rule that says "if someone weirds you out, you can fix them by bullying them".

    I cannot help but notice that the Democrat Party is in a similar position: they are totalitarian busy-bodies that want to control the tiniest details of our lives -- and when they make their positions known, they get "punished" by the voters, by refusing to vote for them. Thus, they have to "mask" their positions, at least until they get power -- and even then, they have to tread carefully, because if they act too fast, voters catch on and remove them from power.

    Hence, the continuous "ha ha only serious" joke that Democrats want Republicans to shut up, and Republicans want Democrats to speak up!

    1. Anastasia Beaverhausen   2 months ago

      It's so easy to know who to place on Mute around here - clue #1 is the usage of "Democrat Party" instead of "Democratic Party".

      1. AT   2 months ago

        It's so easy to know who the echo-chamber theater kids, because they're always the ones going on about muting anyone who says something that defies their groupthink NPC programming and sends them running for their safe space.

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