Trump's Trans Kid Story Doesn't Add Up
The president said a Florida school "secretly socially transitioned" a 13-year-old. Emails suggest otherwise.

The Trump administration is "working to protect our children from toxic ideologies in our schools," President Donald Trump told the nation during a televised address to Congress last night. He went on to share a story about January Littlejohn and her husband, Jeffrey, who allegedly "discovered that their daughter's school had secretly socially transitioned their 13-year-old little girl," conspiring to "deceive January and her husband while encouraging her daughter to use a new name and…they/them pronouns."
The school did this "all without telling January," Trump reiterated, before touting his administration's efforts to make public schools less friendly to "transgender ideology."
Trump immediately pivoted to talking about how he would help pass a bill to criminalize "sex changes on children," blurring the lines between mild actions like calling students by their preferred pronouns and major medical interventions of the sort that are exceedingly rare.
But that's not the only way that Trump's comments were misleading.
In Trump's telling, the school was both pushing gender nonconformity on the Littlejohn's child and doing so without the parents' knowledge. But emails obtained by media outlets years ago suggest that not only did the parents know this was going on, it was they who first broached the subject with the school and suggested that staff follow their child's lead on name and pronouns.
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Emails Tell a Different Story
The reason that some outlets discovered this years ago is because last night's Trump speech wasn't the first time the Littlejohns have been used by politicians pushing an intolerant agenda. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis "repeatedly pointed to the [Littlejohn family] to explain the need for a controversial new law, dubbed by critics the 'Don't Say Gay' bill, that bans schools from teaching about sexual orientation or gender identity," CNN reported in April 2022.
"We had a mother from Leon County, [Florida,] and her daughter was going to school and some people in the school had decided that the daughter was really a boy and not a girl. So they changed the girl's name to a boy's name, had her dress like a boy and on doing all this stuff, without telling the mother or getting consent from the mother," DeSantis reportedly said at a news conference back then, referring to the Littlejohns. "First of all, they shouldn't be doing that at all. But to do these things behind the parents' back and to say that the parents should be shut out. That is wrong."
Like Trump's story last night, DeSantis' tale suggested that the school was for some reason grooming this child to be transgender and doing so without any conversations with the parents.
But emails obtained by the Tallahassee Democrat in response to a public records request, and later obtained by CNN, show that January Littlejohn wrote the school in 2020 to announce that her child wanted to use different pronouns and go by a gender-ambiguous nickname.
"This has been an incredibly difficult situation for our family and her father and I are trying to be as supportive as we can. She is currently identifying as non-binary," January Littlejohn wrote to a teacher at her child's school in August 2020, per CNN. "She would like to go by the new name [redacted] and prefers the pronouns they/them. We have not changed her name at home yet, but I told her if she wants to go by the name [redacted] with her teachers, I won't stop her."
The teacher asked if this information should be shared with other teachers. Littlejohn reportedly responded: "Whatever you think is best or [redacted] can handle it herself."
In another email, Littlejohn told the teacher "I sincerely appreciate your support. I'm going to let her take the lead on this," according to CNN.
These do not sound like the words of someone who was kept in the dark about her child's social transitioning at school. Nor do these emails seem to suggest that the school was pushing unwanted "gender ideology" on the child.
The Littlejohns' Lawsuit Dismissed
The emails that January Littlejohn exchanged with her child's teacher do not tell the whole story, mind you.
The Littlejohn family would eventually sue the school board, superintendent, and assistant superintendent of Leon County Schools, the district in which their child was enrolled, and a counselor and assistant principal at Deerlake Middle School, where the child attended school. The Littlejohns objected to the school's development of a Transgender/Gender Nonconforming Student Support Plan—indicating the child's preferred name, pronouns, bathroom, and sleeping arrangements on school trips—and its decision not to immediately tell them about it when the child requested they not be told.
"Littlejohn claims that when she asked the school for more information, the school denied her access to meetings and information and tried to conceal information regarding her child," according to CNN.
But whatever did or did not happen regarding this plan, the story still bears little resemblance to the one told by DeSantis, in which it was the school who "decided" the child was not a girl and "had her dress like a boy." Or to the story told by Trump, in which the Littlejohn parents were "deceive[d]" by the school and totally ignorant of anything going on.
According to the school district, the child's situation was "handled together in partnership with clear communication" with the Littlejohn parents. "The family clearly instructed the school staff via email to allow their child to 'take the lead on this' and to do 'whatever you think is the best,'" Chris Petley, Leon County Schools communications coordinator, told CNN in 2022.
In December 2022, a federal judge dismissed the Littlejohns' lawsuit.
"At its core, this is a case where Defendants allegedly (i) let [the child, going in the suit by A.G.] voluntarily chose a preferred name and pronouns that they knew [the Littlejohn parents] didn't agree with, (ii) didn't seek [the Littlejohn parents] input regarding A.G.'s name choice, pronoun choice, or other elements of A.G.'s Support Plan, (iii) didn't notify [the Littlejohn parents] about the … Support Plan because they knew [the parents] would not agree with A.G.'s decision, and (iv) dragged their feet in disclosing the … Support Plan to the [parents]," wrote Mark Eaton Walker, chief judge of the United States District Court for the Northern District of Florida, in his decision. "This is not a case where Plaintiffs allege that their child was singled out by Deerlake staff and forced to adopt a support plan against their child's will. Nor is this a case where Plaintiffs allege that Deerlake staff publicly accused Plaintiffs of abusing their child or tried to cause Plaintiffs to lose custody of their child. This is also not a case where Deerlake staff were forewarned that a child's support plan was exacerbating the child's mental health concerns, but they pursued it regardless of such warning, resulting in the child's self-harm or suicide."
Even "accepting all of [the Littlejohns'] allegations as true and construing them in a light most favorable to [them], Plaintiffs do not state a substantive due process claim," Judge Walker concluded.
The Littlejohns have since appealed, and that case is pending.
Whose Parental Rights?
When and how schools should notify parents in situations like this is not always a clear-cut issue.
To me, it seems logical that schools would discuss things like preferred-pronoun changes and bathroom selection with the parents of younger students but stop automatically doing so with older students, such as those in high school and junior high. It also seems reasonable that exceptions might be made—in either direction—depending on particular circumstances.
The issue of field trip sleeping arrangements for older students gets a little trickier, and probably also lends itself to situational rather than one-size-fits-all decision making with regard to whether parents must be apprised.
Reasonable people might have different viewpoints here—but that's not really what Republicans are arguing about.
The recent political focus on transgender and nonbinary students and their parents isn't simply about field-trip sleeping arrangements, or giving parents a heads-up on bathroom choices. It isn't merely about keeping parents informed or debating the finer points of notification policies.
Conservative officials, in the Trump administration and state governments, keep angling to forbid schools from accepting transgender and nonbinary students' preferred identities—sometimes unless their parents give the school express permission, and sometimes not even then. They've been pushing to reject accommodations and acknowledgment for students who identify as nonbinary. Some states are passing laws to ban schools from letting students use bathrooms that don't correspond to the sex they were born, even when their parents approve.
Republicans say this is about parental rights…but apparently that doesn't include the rights of parents who support their children who identify as trans or nonbinary. It starts to seem a lot less about actually protecting parental choice and family privacy and more about imposing a specific "gender ideology" of their own on everyone.
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Trump defenders never let the truth spoil the narrative.
Fatass Donnie loves "alternative facts" according to KellyAnne Conway - his first term spokesmodel.
You know - lies.
It's ok because Democrats said "Fake but accurate" first.
The initial contention was over the child's "nickname". The emails in question are meh. The lawsuit is regarding the schools promotion of sexual ideology to the child, contrary to law, beyond that initial contention, you dishonest jackwangs.
Why don’t you two dishonest dipshits go find a room together. I know Sarc is too old (typically) for Pluggo, but I’m sure Pluggo could let Sarc cosplay.
Meanwhile, at my wife's school, there is a boy that likes to dress in dresses and changes when he enters the school. The school, by law, is not allowed to tell the parents.
And I'm sure their conservatard parents don't have the fraction of empathy it would take to notice that something's up with their kid.
You're deeply mistaken. The "conservatard" parents are actually very sensible people and understand that you can't turn a boy into a girl.
You and your ilk don't even want kids, only groom them instead, and there are schools promoting that. It's disgusting.
You're ok with child mutilation?
While its good to set the record straight, if this is all ya got . . . that's good, right?
Trump speech wasn't the first time the Littlejohns have been used by politicians pushing an intolerant agenda.
Yep, advocating against mutilating children and facilitating mental illness is the apotheosis of intolerance. Good one!
In 20 years when this episode is looked at like the Salem Witch Trials the people pushing the agenda will slink back into darkness and deny ever advocating the craziness, but the Internet is forever.
It is unbecoming of the anti-trans crowd to pretend they care about the welfare of children. Please be honest and just come out and say you are a hateful bigot.
Maybe when the pro trans activists admit that they are postmodernist loons who hate the idea that biology imposes any limitations on a person's identity and innate abilities.
So a person's 'identity' or "innate abilities" are solely based on their sex?
Well, at least that justifies your anti-DEI stance.
I've come to understand that the mentally challenged cannot look past appearances....
Very much so. There's a reason why we have separate sports leagues between men and women, and we know that people like ENB wants to destroy the latter.
Sure, Dr. Mengele, you're all about helping people.
I know you like to speed bag your clit at the thought of slicing up children.
'anti-trans'
That right there invalidates anything else you say, as you are arguing from a position detached from reality. Correct your premise first.
It's called "begging the question".
Its constant, from sarc, molly, et al. So tedious and dishonest.
It’s how they roll around here. They never argue honestly. Nor do their allies Jeffy and White Mike (who seems to have gone AWOL).
"You are perfect the way God made you."
-President Donald J. Trump
"Unless he made you trans, or gay, or Mexican, or poor, or..."
They aren’t sending their best to troll the comments.
D-
Well, it is a very minor publication.
God doesn't make anyone trans, Billy.
OK. You are a hateful bigot.
Your preferred treatment not only has long term health effects on children, it also increases depression and suicide rates.
You're a fucking retard Molly.
Uhm, lets see the study on that.
Both the pro and anti trans people seem to point to these mythical studies.
Let see one study that controls only for cross-dressing.
Read the Cass Report. There's nothing mythical about it.
Where do you get the idea that anyone is 'anti-trans'?
Leftists always project. Especially the pedophiles like you.
Imagine advocating the eradication of gay boys and the erosion female only spaces/sports and having the gall to call other people bigots.
It's not 20 yrs. in the future, Reason and journalistic spheres are just discovering that you don't have to live in the hills, fail grade school biology and English classes, and sleep with your cousins in order to be retarded, inbred, out of touch, and 20 yrs. behind the times.
Trump is a liar? Color me not shocked.
Idiot
It's not shocking at all you remain ignorant on every topic.
It is fascinating that "bathroom selection" has only to do with the child and the child's parents, and not the other children expected to use the bathroom with that child and their parents.
If you are going to couch something in the language of "rights", then you do not really get to carve out exceptions. A claim of "rights" makes the decision tree rather black and white. You must do this and you cannot do that lest you violate the supposed right.
This should be the end of bathroom "segregation". Some elements are private. Others are public. That should be the core of how facilities are designed
Approximately 0% of Americans would agree with that.
100% of Americans actually do that at home. Some office businesses do that. Hospitals do that. Every big event that brings in portapotties could do that.
Further - trans have existed for a long time even if I'm sure there's a bit of nonsense about how many. They've gone to the bathroom for a long time. Which I never remember being a big bathroom problem. But somehow this is all so new - and conveniently political.
You do realize that most, if not all, of the facilities you’ve mentioned are single use ones, where one person at a time uses the washroom, thus your assertion is invalid for what constitutes the majority of public washrooms, the multi-use ones with multiple toilets.
IDK about the bathrooms you use - but those one-user-at-a-time (aka private) spaces also currently exist INSIDE both men's and women's restrooms. As does 'public' space. There is almost certainly no additional space that is needed except maybe big event type stuff.
Stalls aren’t as private as you’re claiming.
The function is private. The facility is cheap as shit because we want to pretend that its not really private but is semi-public
You can't pretend on something that's factually correct. It's not private.
trans have existed for a long time
False. Transgenderism is a very new concept.
In Greek mythology, the offspring of Hermes and Aphrodite was Hermaphrodite. With statues of them - with both genitalia - dating back to ancient Greece.
Hermaphrodits aren’t trans.
Goddamn man.
The existence of medical anomalies does not invalidate the gender binary. And these anomalies are in fact completely irrelevant to the vast majority of transitions, which are done because the person "feels" they are the opposite gender. A feeling that has no diagnostic test.
Trying to talk about these medical examples are attempts at "gotchas" but are distractions from the actual discussion.
Some elements are private. Others are public. That should be the core of how facilities are designed
That's easier said than done in the real world. That's why public restrooms are separated by gender in the first place.
Public restrooms are segregated because in Victorian factories the public facility was a public trough as a urinal and a washbasin. When women were hired or needed to use the facility, the factory owner just stuck a door in front of all that so that:
a)the repellent hygiene practices of men-only space could be hidden
b)so that women would be set aside the space that men allocated for their use.
Those are STILL the two biggest problems of 'public restrooms'. We men are pigs who still are more likely to pee on the floor than to wash hands. Habits that we don't do at home. And women have to spend ungodly amounts of time in lines (and run out of toilet paper)
This is not rocket science to fix this. And I'm certain that creating incentives to fix the problem will create competitors who can figure out how to build facilities more cheaply. And no - 'trans' are neither the problem nor should they be the incentive to fix the problem.
We men are pigs who still are more likely to pee on the floor than to wash hands.
Let's call these people Group P.
And women have to spend ungodly amounts of time in lines (and run out of toilet paper)
Let's call these people Group V.
Those are STILL the two biggest problems of 'public restrooms'.
STILL? OK, you have laid out the reasons to have separate bathrooms for Group P and Group V. Without regard to whatever is going on in their brain, or what clothes they are wearing.
There is no reason to have groups P and V. Those are not really natural groupings. You have created bogus groups - one that peer-encourages bad hygiene, one that is hugely rationed. Those groups are ones that you believe should have CULTURAL norms as their definition - that men should be pigs and women should be rationed. Those have nothing to do with what you assert is the reason for a sign on the door - genitalia. Which btw you are not going to put real symbols of genitalia on the door - but cultural stuff about dresses and pants.
There is no reason to have groups P and V. Those are not really natural groupings.
Yes, they exactly are. The first group urinates through an organ called a penis, which hangs externally and is aimable. The second group has an organ called a vagina, which drains in a less controllable manner.
Because of this natural, physiological difference that has nothing to do with culture, in fact, Group P can pee standing up, while Group V must sit down. As such, Group V needs a broad, bowl-like fixture that can be sat on, preferably in private, because more clothing needs to be removed in order to make that happen. Group P can pee pretty much anywhere, but for sanitary reasons we'd prefer it go into a drain.
Groups don't pee. Individuals pee. Why do you believe that urinals could not exist in a 'private space'? Of course they could. Just need the words 'urinal' on that particular door. Plus that would allow for unisex or dual urinals as well. A higher volume low space requirement. Identical in fact to the need for a disabled which requires a much larger space. Or a space that has a changing table.
None of those really need a door in front of all that segregating sinks or mirrors as well. You're just trying to pontificate about something that is fucking irrelevant.
Why do you believe that urinals could not exist in a 'private space'? Of course they could.
What would be the point?
Take that obsession you have with land usage and translate that into the space inside of a building, which is still space even though it's not outside.
As a matter of fact, the space inside of a building is astronomically more expensive than the space outside of a building. Even more expensive still is service-heavy restroom space inside of a building.
For this reason, minimizing the amount of space dedicated to the restroom is an important element of controlling costs on any building project. Stacking up men's rooms with urinals helps with this. Women's restrooms are inherently more expensive because they require more space, by nature (going back to the whole Group P vs. Group V thing).
Multi-occupancy "gender-neutral" restrooms make both Groups P and V use the baseline facilities needed by Group V, and thus are even more utility-dense, making them the most expensive thing of all. Seriously - you're talking chemistry-lab level costs-per-square-foot both in construction and operation.
Identical in fact to the need for a disabled which requires a much larger space. Or a space that has a changing table.
Correct, both of which are very high cost items in the context of any building.
You're just trying to pontificate about something that is fucking irrelevant.
No. I'm trying to explain something to you that I have intimate familiarity with, and that you don't seem to have considered even though it should be fucking obvious.
minimizing the amount of space dedicated to the restroom is an important element of controlling costs on any building project. Stacking up men's rooms with urinals helps with this.
There are urinals for women too. And the fact is that many women 'hover' in order to avoid touching the toilet while they pee. Which should tell you that mostly this cost saving is bullshit. Using separate appliances for pee and poo for men while forcing women to use the same appliance for both pee and poo (and likely an appliance geared for men's height).
And if you're talking about 'minimizing space', creating separate facilities does not do that. Utilization efficiency is what does that and that has to do with how much peeing and pooing there is. That doesn't change by slapping a stick in pants on one door and a stick in a dress on another door.
Correct, both of which are very high cost items in the context of any building.
Both of which become even more expensive if the requirement is to create double the facilities because it is required in each segregated facility.
“Or a space that has a changing table.”
Unless you’re doing a separate room for this, meeting ADA requirements usually provides ample space for accommodation of a wall mounted changing table.
But if I take your argument correctly, you’re saying just make unisex spaces, foregoing two sets of restrooms altogether?
Speaking as somebody who did janitorial work earlier in life --- women's restrooms are measures nastier than men's. It's not even a comparison, honestly. Men's rooms can be turned around in about 10 mins. Women? I had to use a shovel and a mop on one.
You beat me to it. I've done janitorial work, too. As a male trainee once said to me the first time we entered the "ladies' room", "It looks like a giant guy made of toilet paper was brutally murdered in here."
I had to use a shovel and a mop on one.
Yep. You're not done cleaning the ladies' room if you haven't checked the ceiling.
Public restrooms are segregated because in Victorian factories the public facility was a public trough as a urinal and a washbasin
Correct. This doesn't work for women for obvious reasons that don't have anything to do with differences in hygiene practices. Women have a hard time peeing in troughs and urinals and don't feel that they should have to. But we can also save a lot of time, space, and construction cost allowing men to.
I'm certain that creating incentives to fix the problem will create competitors who can figure out how to build facilities more cheaply
Oh, you sweet summer child, what do you think is going on right now?
The problem, as InsaneTrollLogic is trying to tell you, is that the cheapo partitions that give you visual privacy in a stall are not acceptable, from a building-code POV, as 'private restrooms,' which is what "gender-neutral" restrooms need to be - single use, private space, with floor-to-ceiling partitions.
Floor-to-ceiling partitions means each of what would just be a stall with a fixture in a gendered restroom now is a contained space that needs it's own separate ventilation, lighting, fire-sprinkler and fire alarm devices. This seriously increases both the cost and the footprint in your building for what was once a trough that served several people at once.
Sex/gender isn't an issue for single-occupancy and never has been. Those have always been marked unisex. What we're currently sacrificing in the push for ungendered group restrooms is the efficiency, which was obvious to everyone up until about ten minutes ago, of having group restrooms be segregated according to plumbing system configurations, so to speak.
But we can also save a lot of time, space, and construction cost allowing men to.
Can save even more money allowing people to shit on the sidewalk and pee on walls.
Can save even more money allowing people to shit on the sidewalk and pee on walls.
Correct. But there are undesirable second-order effects there, which is why, as I mention above, we tend to prefer to provide the Group P folks with at least a trough that funnels into a sanitary sewer.
This seriously increases both the cost and the footprint in your building for what was once a trough that served several people at once.
Well - outside some sports stadiums, there are no public group troughs anymore. Hell if we really want to save money - do what the Romans did which is a public latrine. Available to everybody - but no woman in their right mind would use one with a bunch of men gawking. Which would force women back into the home which is where they fucking well should be.
but no woman in their right mind would use one with a bunch of men gawking.
Correct.
Are you starting to understand why we have sex-separated restroom facilities yet?
Yeesh. You are buying into this status quo as a positive. It is a constipated relic from Victorian times that NO ONE prefers or else they would use it in spaces like home.
You want to die on a hill - try locker rooms and shower facilities.
You’ve obviously never had to clean the restrooms at Six Flags.
I’ve seen horrors worse than the Upside Down, and it wasn’t due to us male pigs.
Because a 6 foot tall dude in a dress banging on your stall door is ok?
If you have segregated restrooms, then when there's a "six foot tall dude in a dress" banging on your stall door, there's likely no other six foot tall men around. If you have non-gendered restrooms with private stalls, there might just be another six foot tall man not in a dress to explain why banging on someone else's stall door isn't a good idea.
That's one of the better consequences. You have the entire public performing 'roles' of preventing people from invading someone else's private space when they are vulnerable - and putting peer pressure on to perform basic hygiene before heading back into 'anonymous' public.
I remember very soon after 9/11 before they made the airport changes but after flights resumed. I was flying a lot then and was always upgraded to first class aisle seat. And it was clearly - though never stated - that I was there to signal by my presence that bad guys ain't gonna get through to the cabin.
The "six foot tall dude in a dress" shouldn't have been there to begin with! Yet you and your ilk are okay with that: what part of that do you two not get?
We don't need to call security more than necessary.
blurring the lines between mild actions like calling students by their preferred pronouns and major medical interventions
Groomer alert.
"Blurring the lines between mild actions like caressing the little kid's hair and telling him how cute he/she looks, to inviting them in to see the new puppy or have some ice cream before taking them down to the basement to play dress up and movie making time."
People, especially teachers, shouldn't be doing EITHER of them. The fact that the former hasn't proceeded to the latter - YET - doesn't in any way justify the former.
Get the LGBTP out of the schools. Period. It has NO place there whatsoever.
LGBTP
I was just noting how interesting it is that the representation of the 'A' in the LGBTQIA+ community is practically non-represented to the point of seemingly outright oppression. Always children's drag queen story hour, transgender bathroom rights, and male-identifying as women in female sports; never completely non-sexual story hours, I'll use my own bathroom at home rights, and everyone competes together in an open division, if the trannies and women are losers the overwhelming majority of the time, so be it.
I can't speak for this Florida case, but secretly transitioning is codified into California law now.
I can't speak for this Florida case
"ENB is the Lebron James of schools transitioning children." seems accurate on several levels.
I have criticism if the individual case was actually mischaracterized by Trump. I get the feeling there is a lot more to it that ENB is actively ignoring. It is certainly odd if he used a case that is contrary to his narrative when there are so many highly public ones that support it. Even if ENB is correct about the individual case, she is still dishonest in ignoring the many cases and policies Trump is railing against.
Yeah. The more I read, the more dishonest and bad faith ENB's presentation seems. There was a plan. Whether the parents knew or not, the school didn't think they knew and had specifically documented withholding information from the parents. Full on, ENB bad faith interpretation, the parents knew their daughter had a gender identity issue and were working with a psychiatrist to address the issue and the school was knowingly, actively, and surreptitiously undermining them.
I don't care if it's gender transition, sex ed, speech therapy, or extra math homework, the admin(s) involved in implementing it while planning the withholding information from the parents should be fired out of a cannon into the Sun. "We asked your daughter which restroom she wanted to use. We thought that's what you meant when you said to accommodate her. We should've notified you. Sorry." is not "We have to keep what we're doing with your daughter a secret from you because the law says so."
Bog Standard Leftist Horseshit - A "neutral" wording of the law intentionally protects gay kids who are being abused at home (Does the school not protect straight kids from abuse?) but a bad faith reading of the law impugns heterosexuals as inherently guilty of any/all crimes of heteronormativity by virtue of existing and/or having children.
I would also like to point out that the left presents a contradictory opinion.
When the parents support the transition, it is unconscionable for society to stand in the way of a parent's medical decisions for their children.
When the parents do not support, not only is it unconscionable for society to accept this, and the child will be transitioned against the parents will, but it is paramount to hide this from the parents so they cannot object or move to stop this practice because obviously they will harm the child.
A freedom to agree is no freedom at all.
It isn't happeing <---ENB is here
It is happening, but not what you think
It is what you think, but it is a good thing
Shut you up bigot <---molly is here
The Littlejohns' Lawsuit Dismissed
"At its core, this is a case where Defendants allegedly
...
Even "accepting all of [the Littlejohns'] allegations as true and construing them in a light most favorable to [them], Plaintiffs do not state a substantive due process claim,"
I wonder, if I were to dig deep into the Reason archives, would I find a similar "Their case was dismissed. No further action is required." in response to Obama's Presidential Memorandum on Langbehn v. Jackson Memorial Hospital decision?
It seems clear that the transgender community is a nail that the Republicans will continue to pound. There are of course real issues to be addressed regarding transgender people but that does not seem to be what the Republicans wish to do. Rather they will bully and scapegoat a very small community to excite a small group of bigots and get their vote.
Small group of bigots? I have yet to meet a Trump defender who didn't hate on the trans community. Pretty sure it's a requirement to be in the club.
Supporting them involves having them all die. Pass.
Stay away from children and women's spaces and we'd be okay. Full stop.
Can I assume that you are okay with transmen, biological female identifying as male, being in men's spaces? What about the military, that is neither a child's or women's space? What do you think would bother a child more, seeing a trans woman dressed accordingly going into a stall in a ladies bathroom or seeing a transman dressed accordingly going into a ladies bathroom stall?
Your movement went after the children and women. You're being disingenuous.
And the military have separate divisions and tests for men and women; they also have a separate program for children as well. Have you not ever heard of JROTC?
'trans community'
This is one of the reasons no one takes you seriously.
You’ll just support anyone who runs contrary here, won’t you, Strawcasmic.
Unless you get pounded by that nail.
What's funny is exactly 100% of the people who I follow that have been hammered out of their careers and chased out of public life by the inherently violent trans cult are entirely on the left. Many are left-wing feminists who found themselves at the crossroads of feminism and the trans cult, and made the mistake of choosing feminism.
Not to speak to whatever is said behind the gray box above, but AFAICT, the feminist who advocates/advocated "2 men = 2 women = 1 man + 1 woman" made several mistakes at several crossroads along the way are just now surprised that they didn't wind up at their desired destination.
J. K. Rowling has entered the chat.
a very small community
The transgender social contagion has spread to tens of thousands of kids, and the transgender fallacy is being taught as fact to tens of millions in our schools. We are way past the point where only a very small number of children are affected.
There is no such thing as "the transgender community."
If its such a small community, why am I legally obligated to use someone's made up words at work?
I hereby fall back to a previously prepared position that 1) all of the issues represented in this case are terrible issues to be decided by or participated in by government agencies; and 2) there should be no public tax-funded schools or school systems in the first place because ALL modern curricular items are controversial, including reading, 'riting and 'rithmetic! If the parents didn't like the way the school handled their child's case, in a private system they would have had a range of schools to transfer to without having to pay twice including a school district that their child was not enrolled in. Public schools and school district taxation ensure that schools will become culture wars battlegrounds.
That is nice, but as we are getting your preferred schooling system anytime soon, if ever, what do we do in the onevthat we have?
Fight out the culture wars to the death as we are now.
Well ENB managed to get through the entire article without using her favorite phrase "gender affirming care". Baby steps.
Well an intolerant agenda made it.
You know who else who else would have loved complete tolerance of his ideology?
Don't get me killed new guy.
blurring the lines between mild actions like calling students by their preferred pronouns and major medical interventions of the sort that are exceedingly rare.
Stop with the gaslighting. There is nothing "mild" about referring to a child with inaccurate pronouns, thereby endorsing the transgenderism insanity and the child's delusional thinking. The only "line" being obscured is the straight line from the initial pandering to the child's harmful fantasy to chemical and surgical transitioning. Everyone involved understands that initially catering to the child's confusion or mental illness is just the first step of the process to full medical "transitioning" when they are old enough, and any health professional who attempts to divert the child from that processing line risks career ruin, lawsuits, or even criminal charges. "Mild" my ass.
And that straight (ha!) line is so short, it's two dots whose ink has bled into the other.
Everyone involved understands
We know that they understand, they know that they understand, they even know that we know they understand, we also know that they know we know they understand too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they understand too as well, but they are still obfuscating. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country.
Whose Parental Rights?
No parent has the right to intentionally induce a pathological delusion in their child. No school employee has any right to conceal information about a child's well-being from the child's parents. Period. Full stop. I endorse parents using physical force to defend their rights in such cases.
The "and now, for the rest of the story..." twist kills the claim in the headline.
You know what doesn’t add up? Defending this sick and demented industry.
I pulled up a quick news story about this that is quite contrary to ENB's narrative. Someone is lying. It just sucks that I can't find the parents direct comments with all available context.
https://tallahasseereports.com/2021/09/26/leon-school-officials-develop-gender-transition-plan-without-parent-approval/
Sounds like "Let's agree to disagree." between "Accommodate my daughter's neuroses (she needs and is getting help)." and "OK, we'll accommodate your daughter's neuroses (by developing a transition plan)".
The exact sort of situation where a law (or, the opposite of ENB's inane, dishonest stupidity: just plain old libertarian common sense) should step in and say, "Absolutely do not plan the kid's transition specifically without the parents and probably not even at all."
Thanks for the link. As I expected ENB is dishonestly cherry picking to trash Trump and support her sick agenda. The parents asked for accommodation working through their daughter's anxiety that they believed was a result of Covid lockdowns. The school used that request to secretly groom her into the trans cult. Oh but they sent an email! So it's all cool! Just a race to the bottom at Reason.
Wait, Trump lied? I'm shocked! Next you'll tell me Haitians aren't really eating cats in Springfield!
He still lies less than you do.
This is absolutely imbecilic from a Libertarian magazine. The state keeping parents in the dark about potential mental health issues for minors is crazy
“To me, it seems logical that schools would discuss things like preferred-pronoun changes and bathroom selection with the parents of younger students but stop automatically doing so with older students, such as those in high school and junior high. It also seems reasonable that exceptions might be made—in either direction—depending on particular circumstances.”
Your mistake is in assuming Reason is a libertarian magazine. I know it used to be one, once upon a time, but it seems to be filled with libertine liberal-tarians currently.
And this is where Republicans demonstrate that they value social order over liberty. Sure, we can have liberty, as long as we all "stick to our lane".
Yes, who are parents to exert authority over their children when we have "educators" who you seem to think should have the authority?
We have to give them the benefit of the doubt that they just want what’s best for the child that they don’t have to take care of, or pay for their “care” when they get convinced they NEED to transition.
I think we should give both parents and teachers the benefit of the doubt that they genuinely want what's best for the kids. This idea of teachers as some bunch of radical gender ideologues 'grooming' kids to go trans, is insulting and insane.
What about Mormon offshoot cultists who genuinely believe that the best thing for their 12-year-old daughter is to become the fifth wife of a 50-year-old man? Should they get the benefit of a doubt?
The fact that many teachers and school administrators are a "bunch of radical gender ideologues" is well supported. Much evidence of that has been reported and linked to right here in our comments. But you know that.
To me, it seems logical that schools would discuss things like preferred-pronoun changes and bathroom selection with the parents of younger students but stop automatically doing so with older students, such as those in high school and junior high. It also seems reasonable that exceptions might be made—in either direction—depending on particular circumstances.
Reluctantly and strategically beating the ever loving shit out of the words "logical" and "reasonable" here.
There is no logical reason why a "He" from K-Jr. should suddenly become a "She" in H.S. Humans aren't sequential hermaphrodites and, per the retarded movements' own rules, pronouns actually have meaning in the English language.
You don't want to logically and reasonably share an understanding here. You want to lie about your understanding or care for logic in order to mutilate children against their parents' wishes (and impugn orangemenbad). Otherwise, the reasonable thing to do when even a HS kid suddenly decides to identify as the opposite gender, is to at least, even in good faith situations, reach out and say, "We cannot accommodate such a request without your permission and/or a doctor's note." just like would happen for even trivial illness, family event, or other more trivial accommodation.
Trans kids don't get beaten to death or driven out of their homes for asking to switch genders in school any more than gay kids or kids playing hooky or the children of alcoholics. Unless the kid obviously covered in bruises or specifically requests the school to intervene, at which point they should notify the authorities, you can fuck right off with your "my feelings as foregone logical conclusion" horseshit.
Fuck your dishonesty. I'd hope your school tries to transition your kids without your knowledge but your kids, intellectually and ethically, deserve better than you and your preferred school system.
I missed that bullshit attempt to create common ground. Good lord she is so far from reality.
Look. You can't argue that "secret social transitioning" never happens when people were literally up in arms demanding that it be allowed not six months ago. By focusing so heavily on the fine points of this one case, you omit the fact that multiple schools were demanding the ability to do it. The forest for the trees here.
NO NO NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHE SAID
her 13-year-old daughter was “socially transitioned” through the completion of a “transgender support plan” at her middle school, without parental notification or consent.
You are doing the very thing at issue, arguing for state educational rights to leapfrog sexual responsibility of parents for a 13YEAR OLD
Time for you to think of a new carerr or to have some children.
"...the Littlejohns have been used by politicians pushing an intolerant agenda."
What intolerant agenda? The debate is between the sane and the insane. And it's absolutely evil for the Dems to use the mentally ill as pawns in their political games. People with gender dysphoria need treatment, and encouraging their delusions is causing them great harm.
I'll just leave this here: a children's "quiz" video promoting the "non-binary" lie:
https://youtu.be/_K2NF0dPRi0?si=gF-jxqlxA58zHHIO
The teacher asked if this information should be shared with other teachers. Littlejohn reportedly responded: "Whatever you think is best or [redacted] can handle it herself."
In another email, Littlejohn told the teacher "I sincerely appreciate your support. I'm going to let her take the lead on this," according to CNN.
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So the dithering parents wouldn't take a proactive choice in the matter, told the school to 'do what they thought was best' or let the adolescent decide ... and now they are mad about it ? How about taking some parental responsibility and stop passing the buck. Pick a lane !
They trusted the school, and they were betrayed. This is not on the parents.
You should also read the above comments. ENB is not being honest with her reporting, and it's disgusting. You shouldn't support this.
No, I'm not condoning the result; mainly because I can't find what social transitioning actually means. But if I tell you to do what you think is best ... and you do... how can I be angry about it ? You did what I told you to do. If I wanted what I thought was best, I should have done what I thought was best with my own child in the first place.
Social transitioning means everyone is required to treat the child as if he or she were now a member of the opposite sex, including allowing cross-dressing, using a new name, using opposite-sex restrooms and accommodations, and referring to the child with opposite-sex pronouns. This is whether or not any medical interventions have taken place.