Pray for Us Zynners
New York's proposed ban on nicotine pouches ignores science, consumer choice, and the lessons of prohibition.

New York politicians are again targeting the finance sector—this time with a proposed ban on flavored nicotine pouches.
The proposal, sponsored by state Sen. Brad Hoylman-Sigal (D–Manhattan), follows a one-two punch from Democratic Gov. Kathy Hochul to bar private equity from real estate investments and to outlaw "buy now, pay later" options on internet purchases.
Nicotine pouches (including ZYN, Sesh, and Excel) deliver a buzz that keeps minds sharp and margins strong. Those in the know attest to the unparalleled edge that nicotine pouches provide. They help you lock in when you need it most: generating slide decks for client meetings, running models for your managing director, or pretending to understand what your quant just pulled from the terminal.
Jokes aside, this proposal would be bad public health policy.
Nicotine pouches—almond-sized packets users place between the lip and the gums—are an alternative to cigarettes and other harmful tobacco products. They contain a derived version of the nicotine compound that tobacco users crave without the carcinogenic sluff that comes with cigarettes and smokeless tobacco.
Cigarettes, still popular despite declining smoking rates, are high-risk. Cigarette smoke contains at least 70 known carcinogens, including benzene and arsenic. Smokeless tobacco—chew and dip—doesn't burn, but it still contains 28 known carcinogens, dramatically increasing the risk of oral, esophageal, and pancreatic cancers.
Nicotine pouches contain no tobacco leaf and no known carcinogens. They just deliver nicotine—potentially addictive, yes, but not known to be inherently harmful. Indeed, they are harm reducers, giving people who want the concentration and mood benefits of the compound an option that avoids the grave risks more traditional products pose. Last year a randomized controlled trial in the journal Nicotine & Tobacco Research concluded that pouches "show the potential" of alternative nicotine delivery systems in helping smokers kick the habit. Viewed in that context, the trebling of pouch sales in New York state since 2022 is good news.
Recognizing the positive tradeoffs, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) granted ZYN authorization in January to market its flavored pouches nationally under its premarket tobacco product application pathway "following an extensive scientific review." According to the FDA, these products met the public health standard legally required by the 2009 Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, which "considers the risks and benefits of products to the population as a whole."
Hoylman-Sigal argues that kids will see pouches as glamorous, but there's no good evidence of that. Among American middle and high school students, tobacco use continues on a downward trend. From 2023 to 2024, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reports that use of any tobacco product in that age group fell from 13 percent to 10 percent. Less than 2 percent used pouches.
And as with all banned substances, outlawing flavored nicotine pouches will spark a black market and create a whole new kind of derivative trading. Unless Hoylman-Sigal wants a network of finance interns smuggling arbitraged wintergreen on the PATH train from Jersey City, they ought to can this ban.
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>New York's proposed ban on nicotine pouches ignores science, consumer choice, and the lessons of prohibition.
Well, *yeah.*
But you'll keep voting for them because 'no mean tweets'.
It's NY. You get what you deserve. I have little sympathy for the people who keep voting for this shit and similarly little for nicotine addicts.
ignores science
So are masks a talisman or not?
This is a bad idea on so many levels.
First, tobacco provides a giant source of tax revenue for the state government of NY.
Secondly, who are a bunch of nannies in power to order grown adults what to put in their mouths?
Lastly, history has shown prohibition does not work whether it be on alcohol, drugs or any other item the public wants.
This proposed ban is a sterling example of how little the do-gooder politicians know about history or human nature.
For what it's worth, loss of the tax revenue hasn't been an issue for NY when they think of these things. NY is great at driving its tax base out of state.
ON! offers 8mg pouches. Zyn tops out at 6mg. Maybe they fund reason like the ersatz mayonnaise and lab-grown meat companies do?
ALP and others offer 9. Saw a 12 the other day too.
""Democratic Gov. Kathy Hochul to bar private equity from real estate investments ""
Sounds like a win for NJ.
This website spends far too much (digital) ink on New York City.
Just sayin'.
They have to pander to their donors.
The makers of Nicorette aren’t happy about pouches and have a lot more influence with blue state politicians.
I was in NyC last year and the first thing I noticed when I got out of Penn station was the intense smell of weed smoke everywhere. I am guessing there will be no effort to ban candy flavored weed gummies that might also appeal to kiddos.