Mandate to DOGE
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Does DOGE have much of a mandate? How popular is Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency? And does it matter?
Interesting new poll results from Harvard CAPS/ Harris via Mark Penn show DOGE is popular:
70% of voters say government expenditures are filled with waste, fraud, and inefficiency
60% of voters think DOGE is helping make major cuts in government expenditures.
58% of voters say…— Sara Eisen (@SaraEisen) February 24, 2025
The Harvard/Harris poll cited above (results here) finds that "67% of voters say the current level of U.S. federal government debt is unsustainable" with 77 percent saying "a full examination of all government expenditures is necessary." Though a majority of voters are worried by DOGE employees having access to people's private information, "70% of voters say government expenditures are filled with waste, fraud, and inefficiency (Democrats: 58%; Republicans: 78%; Independents: 75%), and 69% support the goal of cutting $1 trillion of government expenditures." Fully 60 percent believe "DOGE is helping make major cuts in government expenditures." But some polls—like a mid-February Quinnipiac one, in which 55 percent of respondents said Musk has too much power within the government, and a mid-February Emerson College one that found 45 percent of respondents disapproved of Musk's performance—have found more mixed results.
But with 3 million federal government employees, and another 20 million employees in state and local governments who ostensibly fear DOGE-type efforts being replicated elsewhere (not unfounded!), it makes sense that there would be some amount of broad opposition. We all have the luxury of, at present, being insulated from our coming debt crisis, so what incentive do people have to support government auditing efforts? Especially if they themselves are affected, or know someone who is.
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Perhaps the best argument against DOGE is that Musk and his team of engineer-savants are playing fast and loose with the numbers (whether accidentally due to sloppiness or deliberately in an effort to garner support), which for an initiative that prides itself on being "maximally transparent" is a little absurd. "DOGE's website reports a total estimated savings of $55 billion, coming from a combination of canceled and renegotiated contracts and leases, as well as fraud detection, grant cancellations, job cuts and more," reports Politico. "The 'wall of receipts' posted Monday represents only a subset of canceled contracts, the page claims, that amount to approximately 20 percent of 'overall DOGE savings' so far." But these receipts include "contracts that had not yet been awarded; instances where a single pot of money is listed multiple times—tripling or quadrupling the amount of savings claimed; purchase agreements that have no record of being canceled, but were instead stripped of language related to diversity, equity and inclusion; contract savings identified by DOGE that do not match with records they refer to in the Federal Procurement Data System; contracts where the underlying document is for an entirely different contract."
As I wrote last week, "the progress [Musk] has made so far hasn't really been good enough or fast enough to meet his goal [of ideally slashing $2 trillion, or at least $1 trillion]. The headline number is $55 billion; that's what Musk and DOGE claim to have saved already with their cuts. But the total for canceled contracts equals about $16.5 billion—half of which came from one single contract cut which had unfortunately been miscounted as $8 billion when it was in fact a contract for merely $8 million. Still, I am sympathetic to the Randy Barnett idea that we can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good here. The pernicious waste within the federal government needs to be rooted out. Nobody ever said that job would be easy or that the messy process would be broadly supported.
What if we're thinking about government waste all wrong? "Historically, taxes were collected in a few forms: some countries had the kind of economy where there was a tax base that could actually hand over a set quantity of physical coins at some appointed time in order to provide revenue, but in many cases taxes were paid in either goods or labor—a share of the crops, some unpaid labor building a road, etc. The usual term for taxes collected in the form of work is corvée labor, and it's a sufficiently old and persistent practice that the term comes to English by way of French translations of a Roman legal term. Over time, as economies have gotten more market-oriented and the scope of government activity has broadened, we've switched to a system where taxes are collected entirely in currency. Or did we?" asks Byrne Hobart of The Diff.
He continues:
"But, especially when it comes to government spending, it's often helpful to avoid thinking about dollars and to think about real resources instead. Healthcare spending is not just dollars-in and then dollars-out: providing healthcare means paying for the time of people with specific skills, some of which are valuable and scarce. It requires buildings, capital equipment, and consumables. And doing all of this shapes incentives: in the very long run, the impact of government healthcare policy shows up in people's decisions to go into medicine, pharma research, etc., and for companies in that space to alter their R&D spending. This clarifies issues that would otherwise be hard to talk about: no money is directly lost by anyone when student loans are zeroed out. The cost to society is the incentive created to pursue or provide education in ways that are legible to sources of student loans.
So, one large line item that doesn't show up on the Federal budget, but which is a meaningful cost, is the time spent complying with regulations. Conveniently, the US government actually provides an estimate for this: filling out paperwork takes roughly 11.9 billion hours per year (that page is pretty cryptic, but this post, the source of the link, has more). The average US hourly wage is $36/hour, so assuming the time burden is fairly equal, that implies that government spending is underestimated by $391bn (the good news, if you're worried about the deficit, is that this spending is 100% financed by a time-denominated tax."
I think the DOGE discourse, which is currently focused on the government contracts Musk claims to be slashing (which are in some cases inaccurately reported, or the contents misunderstood by those doing the cutting and touting their accomplishments) is missing all of this. And, of course, corvée labor is enormously hard to quantify. But how much time will be saved by all this regulation slashing? What types of projects that would have never gotten off the ground will now be able to start?
Romania watch: "Thousands of protesters took to the streets of Romania's capital on Saturday in a show of support for Călin Georgescu, the far-right populist who emerged as the front-runner in last year's presidential race that was annulled days before the second-round runoff," reported the Associated Press over the weekend.
Here's the timeline: Georgescu won the first round of the election on November 24. The country's Constitutional Court annulled the election on December 6, right before the December 8 runoff.
So was the Constitutional Court acting outside of its authority or attempting to put thumbs on the scale? It's kind of hard to say. The current Romanian president—who skews a bit conservative but is broadly disliked and maybe just a tad authoritarian in his impulses—"declassified intelligence on Wednesday that alleged Russia organized thousands of social media accounts to promote Calin Georgescu across platforms such as TikTok and Telegram," per the A.P. The question is whether that interference warranted the annulment of the results.
Georgescu, for his part, called this an "officialized coup"—and so did Elena Lasconi, of the center-right Save Romania Union party, who finished in second place (and stood to gain from the runoff).
It's not crazy to believe Georgescu might be bought and paid for by Russia. He used to be part of the Romanian right-wing party Alliance for the Unity of Romanians (AUR), but he left in 2022 once he was broadly condemned for being critical of NATO and pro-Russia. He has called Ukraine "an invented state" and praised Vladimir Putin a fair bit in the past. But there's no airtight evidence of any of this, and it's hard to figure out what the burden of proof should be for the high court to throw out an election result. It's very possible the amount of Russian interference was extraordinarily high to the point where the integrity really is compromised (though how exactly is that measured?), but we also surely accept the reality that in a world with free-flowing information—and thus free-flowing propaganda—voters are exposed to plenty of media that's really a foreign actor attempting to put a thumb on the scale. It's a very tough issue—one we're talking about with Matt Taibbi on this week's episode of Just Asking Questions.
Scenes from New York: "A decade after allegations first surfaced that schools operated by New York's Hasidic Jewish community were denying children a basic education, the state government is for the first time cutting off funding for schools it says have refused to improve," reports The New York Times. "The New York State Education Department will no longer provide crucial funding for two all-boys Hasidic schools in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, and will ensure that all of their students are enrolled in different schools by the fall. The effective closure of the two schools, which are known as yeshivas, is the strongest action taken in New York to crack down on schools over their failure to comply with education law."
QUICK HITS
- Really good thread on Federal Emergency Management Agency policy and home rebuilding:
FEMA seems to be very confused as to why people in #WNC are so upset about the "50% Rule" for disasters…
Let me explain:
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b) Now you're… pic.twitter.com/tjkbZ41V6U
— Matt Van Swol (@matt_vanswol) December 22, 2024
- Really good exchange between Pod Save America's Jon Lovett and Bill Maher on trans kids and puberty blockers, if you can stand Lovett being pretty insufferable. Here's the study Maher was referencing:
This is the scandal @billmaher was referencing. Our taxpayer $$$ were used to pay for this. Then the findings were suppressed by the doctors who performed the study because they didn't want people like Maher (or me, or more than half the American public) to "weaponize" results. https://t.co/swURBDafKz pic.twitter.com/dAkcCiNVr9
— Liz Wolfe (@LizWolfeReason) February 25, 2025
- New video essay from Reason's Zach Weissmueller on the killing of United Healthcare's CEO and how Luigi Mangione became an internet phenomenon:
- "President Donald Trump said tariffs scheduled to hit Canada and Mexico next month were 'on time' and 'moving along very rapidly' following an initial delay, even as a US official cautioned the schedule could be less certain," reports Bloomberg. Trump had previously delayed the imposition of such 25 percent tariffs until March 4.
- Interesting:
I don't comment directly on regulation much but I would like to flag an emerging regulatory battle that is happening in D.C.
The soon-to-be revealed stablecoin markup apparently has requirements to shut off access to the treasury market to centralized international stablecoin…
— Vance Spencer (@pythianism) February 24, 2025
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"...Though a majority of voters are worried by DOGE employees having access to people's private information..."
It doesn't bother anyone that some random IRS employee has the same access?
This was going to be my reply. They haven't thought that through very carefully. DOGE employees, who to the best of my knowledge are government employees, only have access to information that other government employees already had access to.
Ya, but are those other gov employees named "Big Balls"? That's the real issue.
Nah, govt employee names are variations of 'little pricks'.
I thought they were more like variations on assholes and pussies.
Sarc is both of those things. I’m sure he will be along to opine soon.
And all these accessing employees are thoroughly background-checked and informed of the penalties that shall be imposed for improper behavior, right? RIGHT?!
Do you have evidence that they haven't been? Or are you just throwing shit at the wall to see if anything will stick?
I think her name was Lois Lerner. She messed around with a bunch of conservative non-profits, leaked details, a bunch of illegal stuff which I have forgotten.
NO PUNISHMENT. Not even a wrist slap.
And you think federal employees, and the government itself, are worthy of trust?
OK, maybe I'm confused. I figured Yuno Hoo was being snarky about the DOGE folks not meeting the same standards of vetting and training as the rest of the Feds whose data the're looking at. Maybe I misread that and it was actually commentary about the initial agency employees, in which case I apologize to that person for my somewhat hostile reply.
No, I don't particularly trust federal employees. That was pretty much the point of my first comment. All of the data that DOGE is looking at is already in the government's hands. DOGE is just yet another group of federal employees with access to it. Anyone who is having a conniption fit now about "their data" being seen is several decades late to the party.
i.e.: "OH MY GOD, THE HORSES HAVE ALL RUN AWAY!"
"Bob, the barn burned down three years ago."
Check your sarc meter for function; pretty sure he meant the IRS clerks.
Yeah, I may have fucked that up. If so, mea culpa. Yet more evidence for Poe's Law, as I have definitely seen people making that exact same argument in earnest.
Been known to do it myself.
And Lois Lerner, or whatever her name is, was an IRS clerk.
She wasn't a clerk. The IRS is organized in functional groups and she was the director of the Exempt Organizations operating group. This group issued tax IDs to new NGOs and resolved related problems employing 900 people. She had numerous White House meetings recognizing she was a high-level employee.
‘Sarc meter’? Do you mean a breathalyzer?
Sarcasm meter, like bullshit meter, as opposed to a Sarcasmic meter.
Biden gave 53 students access to the IRS but the was "D"ifferent for their little research paper
Well, 'somebody' did.
I mean we just had a conviction of a liberal activist releasing IRS documents. But don't worry about that. Then The Resistance leaking many documents during trumps first presidency. No big deal. Auditors are who should see nothing.
Presumably, they're worried that Elon and DOGE are going to steal from poor IRS agents and USAID trans-advocate NGO workers' bank accounts; because Elon has run out of other ways to make money.
We have a new co-morbidity that goes with TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome). It is ED. (Elon Derangment).
SPB, and a few others, I am looking at you. You all suffer ED.
Charles Littlejohn, who got a wrist slap. But no double standard there.
We know the process by which the IRS employee was hired and the condition they are required to work under. The same is not true for someone recruited by DOGE. Does the DOGE employee understand how they are expected to handle sensitive data? Do they understand that improperly handling said data can result in termination and criminal prosecution?
Lol
Parody.
IT'S A FUCKING AUDIT OF GOVERNMENT, MOD.
Except for military and national security, this all was supposed to be public.
DOGE isn't going through your income tax filing. That's not in its purview. You know this. Why are you pretending otherwise? Are you really this ill-informed?
No. S/he's simply a lying pile of steaming TDS-addled lefty shit.
Why dignify with “s/he”? Just call M4e, “it”.
Right now that's the best talking point he's been giving. Right now I think the strategy is the mostly lay low and hope for something bad to happen to Trump's admin.
Is DOGE requesting access to databases that have personal information for American citizens? If no, I have no problem. If yes, then I want to know how the people accessing the data were hired, what training they have in handling private information, and what consequences do they face if they violate said practices. Is that too much to ask?
Well, guess what, you stupid bitch, your side already provided that data to China, so a bunch of autistic data miners using software tools to find FWA isn't going to affect you any.
Training to "handle private information" doesn't consist of anything more than a CUI brief, for any government employee, that takes about 10 minutes to read through. The consequences, as they are for most government employees who "violate" said practices, wouldn't be anything more than a stern talking-to.
Is DOGE requesting access to databases that have personal information for American citizens? If no, I have no problem.
Well then you have no problem, because their not accessing anything with personal information that can't be found in the phone book.
How many times do you guy's need to be told it's an audit of government?
Depends on how many times it’s going to be discussed.
OK you say it is a audit. Can you direct me to the scope of work for the audit so I can understand what is being done? Audits are common and they will have a document, like a scope of work, that tell what is being done, who is doing the work, how decisions are made and results reported.
You're such a phony, trying to lawyer. "We wouldn't want an uncontrolled audit, those are dangerous, Hurr durr."
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/establishing-and-implementing-the-presidents-department-of-government-efficiency/
Woof, this red herring stinks.
Do you know all that about all of the more conventional government employees that have always had potential access to your personal information?
What I know about conventional employees is that there is a paper trail of their hiring, training and consequences for failure to protect data. President Trump had government papers, classified and unclassified stacked in a bathroom. So, forgive me if I don't take his personal reference for Musk's crew.
"President Trump had government papers, classified and unclassified stacked in a bathroom"
Because that's where the FBI stacked them for the photo it turned out. You just live on MSNBC now don't you? Every single fucking photo was staged by the FBI, by their own admission.
Meanwhile, where was your opprobrium for Biden when he left them in his garage.
Your such a piece of shit.
What I know about conventional employees is that there is a paper trail of their hiring, training and consequences for failure to protect data.
Feel free to show where that paper trail can be found for any random government employee.
Just trust the government!
""We know the process by which the IRS employee was hired and the condition they are required to work under.""
And that doesn't prevent them from unauthorized distribution of information.
Do we? You can tell me how they SHOULD be held to standards but you have zero evidence that it is being done.
The IRS should never be a partisan attack dog...yet THEY have been that for a while.
And contractors ALSO have access to it.
One leaked Trump's tax records and all.
....has, uh, DOGE leaked anything?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/irs-admits-anti-trump-taxman-leaked-data-on-405k-filers-six-times-more-than-previously-known/ar-AA1zM6lE?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=DCTS&cvid=3fd23c2e571c4d0d8884440c0f45ce8a&ei=39
Perhaps you just need to be anti-Trump.
No we don't. We don't actually know, to what extent, if any, the IRS and its employees comply with procedures, regulations, and requirements. I gauran-damn-tee you that corners are cut all the time.
I gauran-damn-tee you that corners are cut all the time.
They aren't cutting corners, they deliberately flout the law to further their political interests.
We know this with 100% certainty since the Lois Lerner corruption case revealed the IRS was sending copies of information demanded from disfavored entities to left wing NGOs, Pro Publica if I recall correctly.
Revealingly none of the left wingers currently hyperventilating about information security and potential leaks was in any way concerned about these actual deliberate leaks. Do they think their pretense is in any way credible?
Why not both?
People talking about shocking their asshole and pee during work hours on government computers have all your information.
I'm guessing yes, which is why they may not want more people accessing their data.
Or in other words, if I get Peeping Tom'd once that doesn't mean I'm ok allowing others to Peep.
The random IRS employee might stalk his neighbor, or the waitress at the bar.
Big Ballz is going to feed it into his AI and stalk everyone.
How so?
Knowing how fked up the IRS is. I could see them hiring someone that only works from home who is actually in maximum security prison.
We must protect our non partisan and constitutional defending deep state no matter what. Ask sarc, jewfree, Jeff and others.
Even when they undermine citizen rights such as pressuring citizens to give up their 2A.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/we-caught-fbi-using-minority-report-style-secret-form-pressuring-gun-owners-forfeit-their
Or spending most of their workers time on government IC apps at the CIA and NSA talking about polycules and trans sex.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/sex-castration-butthole-zapping-nsa-cia-confirm-secret-kink-chat-room-after-chris-rufo
These employees are the true workers listed under article 2 and should be praised for the public service they do, never being held accountable.
Michael Shellenberger
@shellenberger
FBI whistleblower
@GOBactual
confirmed to me that a source inside FBI said FBI employees were destroying evidence on servers, and that he informed
@Kash_Patel
I hope he &
@AGPamBondi
@JohnRatcliffe
@elonmusk
@realannapaulina
are preventing this.
We urgently need disclosure!
Again. Take no action. They are protecting the citizens.
Could you believe that fucking chatroom? This is what my tax dollars go to pay for? Utter madness.
Jewfree is probably too busy jerking off at NYC's antisemitic action against certain schools despite not providing any evidence of their accusations.
JFree, et al. are from Massachusetts?
From ‘The Daily Caller’:
The Massachusetts Teachers Association (MTA) has been promoting the use of anti-Israel teaching materials that includes phrases such as “Zionist bullies” in workbooks for students…
“Some of the materials provided to educators included Palestinian ‘activist’ guides and a children’s book that says ‘a group of bullies called Zionists wanted our land so they stole it by force and hurt many people’ and ‘children like me keep having their homes taken by Zionist bullies.'”
""that includes phrases such as “Zionist bullies” in workbooks for students…"'
Safe spaces are so passe.
Chatroom?!
Who cares about the chatroom. I want to know more about the time machine they have to access chatrooms.
I'm confused. Are you suggesting that a government chatroom isn't recorded and the history of what's written in it can't be accessed at a later time?
Or are you skeptical that the new auditors reached 88 mph in order to go back in time?
No, I'm skeptical because these modern Chinese flux capacitors are garbage. If you get lucky enough to get one that doesn't melt down as soon as you add the plutonium rods, you'd still need a miracle to get back to yesterday, let alone to the days of dial-up.
If the Chinese flux capacitor melts down after taking you to the past, you can always kidnap George Carlin and find a phone booth, while playing 80s metal, to return home to the present.
Excellent!! Now I can risk going back to warn myself to not post this dumb comment before it was too late.
Excellent!!
But will it be an Excellent Adventure or a Bogus Journey back?
Poor Eric.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/02/apple-will-invest-500-billion-add-20k-jobs-amid-tariffs-on-china/
Renamed voting group found paying for votes a few years ago once again found paying for votes.
https://x.com/DanODonnellShow/status/1893698428804202741
2023 story.
https://newstalk1130.iheart.com/featured/common-sense-central/content/2023-02-27-liberal-group-running-massive-election-bribery-scheme-in-supreme-court-race/
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/5-tampered-with-absentee-ballots-in-connecticut-s-largest-city-authorities-say/ar-AA1zxN78
5 tampered with absentee ballots in Connecticut's largest city, authorities say
Five people including prominent Democratic political operatives in Connecticut's largest city were arrested Friday on allegations of absentee ballot tampering during a 2023 local election, including accusations that led to a court-ordered rerun of a mayoral election and helped fuel skepticism about voting security in the U.S.
Among those arrested were Bridgeport Democratic Town Committee Vice Chairperson Wanda Geter-Pataky, and Bridgeport Democratic City Council Members Alfredo Castillo, Maria Pereira and Jazmarie Melendez, according to the chief state's attorney's office.
Geter-Pataky and Castillo were previously charged with similar absentee ballot crimes connected to the 2019 election.
Ganim was first elected mayor in 1991 and served 12 years in the post before quitting when he was caught accepting bribes and kickbacks. Convicted of racketeering, extortion and other crimes, he spent seven years in prison but then won his old job back in 2015. He was reelected again in 2019 and 2023.
Despite the leftist media narratives, DOGE is proving popular.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/harvard-poll-undercuts-dem-narratives-shows-doge-widely-popular
Jeffy, Tony, and the other assholes aren’t gonna like this. Full text from X of Liz’s post above:
https://x.com/lizwolfereason/status/1894362969984610587?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
Thus far, every study that's performed using actual scientific rather than political methods inevitably comes to the same conclusion--that the claims made by the queer cult about transing kids, and a lot of adults for that matter, not only don't provide the benefits or results that the queer cult claims they do, in many cases it results in actual significant physiological damage up to and including increased cancer risk. Even the politicized ones have to acknowledge it, which is why they bury that information at the back of the study because it contradicts the political activist narrative they're pushing.
It's all to groom more people into the marxist vanguard, via relentless self-mortification and cultural subversion, as opposed to the reality that this is actually only an issue for an extremely tiny percentage of people who suffer from a very severe mental illness of gender dysphoria where they literally can't look at themselves in the mirror. It's certainly not about the pornsick incel wierdos who think they need to cut their dick off and become a woman because it's the only way they'll get laid.
So basically it looks like the whole trans and queer identity movement and the alphabet sex cult globally, was created by the CIA through USAID. It was never organic.
No, no, no. I'm sure the CIA didn't start that until right after Stonewall, or maybe even Obergefell. The LGB part of the movement was organic until the CIA took it over and added the TQIA+ or the CIA created the TQIA+ right alongside the LGB movement to infiltrate the movement. Either way, you can be sure that the Deep State and homosexuals in charge of The Lavender Scare and Operation Mockingbird didn't start trying to influence public opinion until *after* the Second Bush Administration.
You're right. That's why I said the trans, queer identity movement and alphabet sex cult. Those have nothing nothing to do with girls falling in love with girls, and boys wanting boys no matter how often they purport to.
That's why I said the trans, queer identity movement and alphabet sex cult. Those have nothing nothing to do with girls falling in love with girls, and boys wanting boys no matter how often they purport to.
This is a distinction I don't exactly draw. There is/was no cis het marriage movement with a + for harems or philandering French and Italian people. Obviously, individual people being gay isn't a CIA op, but the idea that *just* started at some point in history and/or that the LGB part of the movement is legit from the TQIA+ part of the movement is utter horseshit.
Even all the way back at Oscar Wilde and before it's "I'm the real victim here!" vs. "Of being accused of factually being a homosexual?"
I'll be honest, I don't believe in heterosexuals and homosexuals. There's preferences to varying degrees more heavily weighted to male/female coupling because pregnancy is the original reason for it.
People when they want to are capable of fucking almost anything. If you prefer boys that's not your identity. It just means you are primarily attracted to boys. You're not different on a fundamental level from anyone else.
This was also the way humanity saw it until the sixties. As a compelling sexual behavior rather than a different sort of human being entirely.
Also, I'm convinced that Westburo Baptist was an op now. Why the hell would a truly anti-gay group protest police and military funerals instead of bathhouses and pride parades?
Why the hell would a civil rights lawyer start that "church" to begin with? His son was an Al Gore rep for the electoral college, FFS. And then all of a sudden they're this little anti-gay group.
Of course it was an glowop. This is a "church" that had no congregation or chapel, led by a guy who was a Democrat for years, that disappeared off the fucking map after gay marriage was legalized.
Everyone -- EVERYONE -- in that "church" was a relative or friend of the founder. There were only a few dozen, total.
Yet, somehow, the media would cover them and amplify them as though they were mainstream, online discourse even then devolved into "You're going to make all of us like Westboro Baptist" etc. I can even remember seeing it referenced in television shows as though it was a mainstream thing.
Even if the guy was serious, the propaganda machine absorbed, amplified, and utilized him.
I’m willing to believe it was serious, but yeah, it was one guy and his followers who were all related to him to some degree. Cults like that continue to exist.
The media liked to amplify them because he called them Baptists, even though the Baptist church denounced them. They had no affiliation with any larger baptist community.
Even at that, there are no studies anywhere proving the complete or absolute inefficacy of electroshock therapy. There are no studies anywhere proving the complete or absolute inefficacy of transorbital lobotomies. There are no studies anywhere proving that sacrificing virgins doesn't change the weather or slake the volcano Gods.
The issue isn't just with children. The issue is a broad and fundamental rejection of Enlightenment if not all civilization and/or humanity.
Output and raw data from every single bit of government funded research should be in public domain and readily available online.
Good Lord, does Lovett engage in a lot of special pleading after Maher talks about that. Essentially, surely it must work sometimes. Surely, parents are bad sometimes. Meanwhile, you have California passing a law saying that suggesting alternatives to transitioning is tantamount to "conversion therapy" and therefore illegal.
How Senator Whitehouse helped direct funds to the NGO his wife profits from.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ethics-watchdog-flags-senator-helping-make-millions-wifes-green-nonprofit
RICO the NGOs.
RICO the democrat party.
As I wrote last week, "the progress [Musk] has made so far hasn't really been good enough or fast enough to meet his goal [of ideally slashing $2 trillion, or at least $1 trillion].
It's been a month with judges constantly issuing TROs. It will take more than that and a judicial smackdoen to undo decades of corruption. Many of the findings point to intentional lack of documentation on payments, seemingly an effort to hide corruption.
DOGE won't be successful on its own. That's not to say it hasn't or won't have some wins. But It's best weapon is exposing the corruption using the Presidential Bully Pulpit. Keep maximizing the pressure on Congress to follow through. Keep DOGE in the news cycle. Nancy and team won't be able to use the excuse, "the cupboard is bare. There's no more cuts to make".
Here's the timeline: Georgescu won the first round of the election on November 24. The country's Constitutional Court annulled the election on December 6, right before the December 8 runoff.
EUs liberal politicians bragged about this.
Yes, more evidence that the EU is now a completely authoritarian state. Time to leave NATO. There’s no point in having a defensive alliance with a bunch of countries that won’t defend themselves and don’t have liberal (classical) values.
It's not really a coincidence that the EU's current commissioner was in Stasi Merkel's cabinet.
liberal (classical) values
The fact that Trump, Musk, Rogan, etc. openly admit to being Clinton-Era Democrats kinda suggests that, at this point, even Limbaugh-style lib-uh-ruls would be preferrable.
It’s pretty much turning into the Soviet Union. But with better branding.
Nah, this is pretty different from that. The USSR took a shitty country of mostly serfs and peasants and quickly made it into a different kind of authoritarian hell hole. The EU has taken a reasonably prosperous and free region and is slowly turning it into an authoritarian hell hole.
President Donald Trump said tariffs scheduled to hit Canada and Mexico next month were 'on time' and 'moving along very rapidly' following an initial delay, even as a US official cautioned the schedule could be less certain," reports Bloomberg. Trump had previously delayed the imposition of such 25 percent tariffs until March 4.
This threat will continue until the next election in Canada, and permanently in Mexico. Someday Mexico could be a real country, but not soon.
This threat will continue until the next election in Canada
This has actually helped Trudeau more than anyone. His party looked like it was going to be wiped from the face of the earth in the upcoming election, but because of this tariff teasing he now has something to run on other than his horrific record.
He's been posturing everywhere how he's going to fight Trump and save the day for Canadians.
This is the whole reason why Trudeau is refusing to do anything about Trump's fentanyl and defense spending requests.
If Trump doesn't want a psychotic left government in his Northern neighbor again for the rest of his term he should stop threatening tariffs or put them on now.
If he puts them on now Canadians will feel the pinch, and see that Trudeau can do nothing about them. But this teasing is just wrecking things for the opposition parties.
If Trudeau manages to get reelected, what’s the over/under on the confederation surviving? I strongly suspect Alberta and Saskatchewan will try to bolt.
Zero. But not in a good way.
Canada is the US's largest trading partner by a long shot, and the country and its economy collapsing in on itself isn't something that the US can just shake off like many think.
Also, the chances of Alberta and Saskatchewan becoming independent are far higher than joining the US.
Also, Trudeau has already utterly destroyed Canada's economy. Prolonged Trump tariffs will turn Canada into the late Weimar, but Justin doesn't care. It's what he and the WEF have been aiming for all along so that they can do an Agenda 2030 in Canada.
You Canadians should rise up and overthrow your government. Then burn Trudeau and his henchmen at the stake. Perhaps on the steps of parliament.
Well, there's legally supposed to be an election sometime in the next few months. That was looking like a complete overthrow of the Liberal government until Trump handed Justin the party's new platform.
No clue how plausible this is, but my scenario.
Alberta and Saskatchewan bolt (independence). They take Manitoba with them as the ties there are stronger west than east. Quebec loses the transfer payments and says tabernak, and leaves as they’ve threatened twice before. This isolates British Columbia which will go it alone, but the main question there is, will the interior choose to go with Vancouver and Vancouver Island, or with Alberta? I suspect the latter. The territories will be isolated and probably go with Alberta. This leaves the Maritimes and Newfoundland Labrador to make a decision. They can’t survive as an independent country, nor are they attached to Ontario. They would not join Quebec. Do they join the UK or apply for statehood? Ontario would be left alone. I see four independent countries and a big question mark for the east.
You're pretty much on the mark.
I'm not sure about Manitoba, because even though they once fought for Western independence (the North-West Rebellion), the largely native population has been living off the government teat for quite some time.
I think that the original Canada; Ontario and the Maritimes, minus Quebec, would stay together. Newfoundland was it's own independent country until the late 1940's so they would probably leave too.
I can't see any joining the US in the short term. Maybe in the long term as the shine of independence from Ottawa wears off.
The issue there is that Newfoundland did have responsible government until 1931 when they gave it back to Westminster. They weren’t making it as an independent country on their own. Westminster gave them what was effectively an ultimatum in 1949 to join Canada.
If they would have pulled a Switzerland but for North America it could have worked.
Why JeffTony is raging:
Stonewall, UK's Largest Trans Rights Organization, Turned Out to Be a USAID Front
Yeah, I saw that one. Is everything a fucking psyop, and nothing real!?!
Pretty much. If it doesn’t make sense as a real movement on the surface, we’re probably paying for it.
Personally, I'm more surprised to discover that all the "You know your favorite gangster rapper sags their pants because they're secretly gay?" conjecture/conspiracy theories were true.
Like all the "Live fast, die young, leave a good-looking corpse." rock/metal artists suddenly turning "Stay indoors, call your granny, and get your shots." in 2020.
Tbf, most of the talented "Live fast, die young, leave a good-looking corpse." rock artists are actually dead, and most of what constitutes the “true” metal scene didn’t go along with the 2020 authoritarianism. See: Phil Labonte being a co-host on Timcast.
Then there’s Rage, and I don’t know wtf happened there.
I just wish Phil were a better speaker. Sometimes it's like pulling teeth to wait for him to finish a coherent thought. But he's mostly based.
I'm a metalhead, but not a fan of All That Remains and their style of metal. I'm more of a power metal and thrash metal fan. I really hope that former J-6er, Jon Schaffer, resurrects Iced Earth (one of my all time favorite bands) and puts out new music. But he's been abandoned by the metal community for "taking part in the greatest assault on democracy ever, the insurrection at the Capitol." Even his closest friend, Hansi Kursch of Blind Guardian, who comprised with Schaffer the side project Demons and Wizards (fantastic metal band), condemned Schaffer after J-6. I was so disappointed by that, and the fact there won't be another D&W album, and that I'll never see them live now.
Agreed with Phil’s speaking, he could pick up the pace but I like what he has to say. It was particularly painful when Tim was out and he was the primary host.
Only somewhat familiar with Schaffer and his story, but yeah that sucks. Ironically it was Phil that mentioned him in support that made me aware.
Rage was always a bunch of posers Rmac. Morello plays incredible hooks (credit where due) but they were always a sham.
Yup. RATM sucks. Always has.
I thought Evil Empire was great, but obviously subjective. But that album was very much against the state and the MIC. Now Morello is a straight up boot licker authoritarian. He’s basically Howard Stern.
You don’t have to like their early stuff to see the difference with what they turned into.
That’s why the democrats are freaking. Our tax dollars are fueling so much of the neo Marxist’s ‘activism’ here and abroad. This is a serious blow to them.
They actually call it "Stonewall" after the US gay riots in Greenwich Village? A UK organization uses a US name?
No pride in anything of their own? No gay UK pride to name it after?
With American money comes an American name.
We all have the luxury of, at present, being insulated from our coming debt crisis, so what incentive do people have to support government auditing efforts?
Huh? How about "We all are being insulated from our coming debt crisis, which is a great incentive for people to support government auditing efforts."?
Other than that, please keep up the good work, Liz!
A thread:
I've said it again, I'll say it again. Taxpayer-funded NGOs function as a parallel government.
Even worse, many sitting members of Congress are directly involved in them. They see themselves as the real government, prioritizing debates with other bureaucrats on the global stage over serving the people they represent.
This is why critical issues like healthcare, education, and help for Helene victims are consistently neglected.
Everything the Democrats would like to pass in Congress, but know they couldn't, just gets done by an NGO.
A shadow government that 1) is not beholden to direct scrutiny and thus can fund incredibly evil / unconstitutional things including terrorist organizations and 2) benefits the people allocating the funding - with awards, board seats, speaking fees, and sometimes even direct kickbacks
Let me summon JeffTony:
EXCLUSIVE: @GrossmanHannah and I have obtained logs from the NSA’s secret transgender sex chatroom, in which NSA, CIA, and DIA employees discuss genital castration, artificial vaginas, piss fetishes, sex polycules, and gangbangs—all on government time. This is insane.
The NSA maintains a chat system for the "intelligence community" called Intelink. The servers are supposed to be used for government work, but gender activists have hijacked at least two channels—LBTQA and IC_Pride_TWG—to discuss fetishes, kink, and sex, all legitimized as "DEI."
One popular chat topic was male-to-female transgender surgery, which involves surgically removing the penis and turning it into an artificial vagina. These male intelligence agents would love the feeling of penetration and of peeing with their pseudo-vaginas.
These trans employees discuss hair removal, estrogen treatments, and breast implants. "Getting my butthole zapped by a laser was . . . shocking," said one trans-identifying DIA official. "Medical science is gonna give me tits one way or another," said a Navy intel employee.
One NSA official claims to use "it/its" pronouns, meaning that this person does not identify as a human, but rather, feels like a sexless, genderless thing. Other intel employees defend the usage of "it/itself" pronouns, claiming that not using them amounts to trans "erasure."
Intel employees used the chatroom to discuss "ethical non-monogamy," or "polyamory." Many claimed to be part of sprawling sexual networks and have a rich slang vocabulary about their sex lives. "Some of our friends are practically poly-mers, with all the connected compounds."
https://www.city-journal.org/article/national-security-agency-internal-chatroom-transgender-surgeries-polyamory
The NSA maintains a chat system for the "intelligence community" called Intelink. The servers are supposed to be used for government work, but gender activists have hijacked at least two channels—LBTQA and IC_Pride_TWG—to discuss fetishes, kink, and sex, all legitimized as "DEI."
If this sounds like the same sort of institutional capture by trannies that took place at internet sites like Something Awful and Reddit, or on various other internet chat forums, it's because it is.
Gatekeeping works, kids.
The Bobs should be sent in to fire 99+% of those workers.
Clarence Thomas is owed an apology or Senate hearings for these employees.
Did they discuss where to get "good" pizza?
Maybe the JeffSarc complete can explain to us how a lieutenant general is unqualified.
Low IQ reporter: "Why did you select an underqualified retired lieutenant general to be the next Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff?"
Pete Hegseth: "I'm going to choose to reject your unqualified question. Who's next?"
MIC DROP
That wasn't a mic drop, he spiked it off the guy's forehead.
I have a better idea. How's about you just put words in my mouth like you always do and then argue against what you made up. No need for me to be involved since the entire argument exists only in your head.
Here’s a better idea, Sarc, stop being so fucking retarded and admit you’re a Democrat instead of a libertarian.
Because you never respond to actual questions. You make shit up, you misinterpret, you repeat the same stupid mantra that you don't want to waste time responding.
Why do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
I even offered a safe word, BANANAS, and promised to reply with an honest answer if you asked an honest question. You did, once, and I replied. The next time I used the safe word, you sneered at it as dishonest.
I repeat: why do you expect anyone to take you seriously?
sarcasmic
I have a better idea. How's about you just put words in my mouth
Why? You have no problem putting words in their mouths. Why do you have different standards for them than you do for yourself?
If Sarc didn’t have double standards, he’d have no standards at all.
He thinks it's very virtuous because he has twice as many standards as less principled people.
Awe, poor sarc.
We need more of that. I am all for a free press, but let's try to be somewhat respectful. The SecDef was there, with foreign partners, and that asshole reporter tries to be cute.
Not sure I agree, but they should do it while a D is POTUS also.
Still the phrase "Too clever by half." comes to mind.
Is a lieutenant general not qualified for that position? What are the qualifications?
The only qualification any left winger cares about is political reliability. Will you change your opinions to match whatever their new goal is? For example will you claim both that (1) women and men are exactly the same and therefore anyone who claims men can do something better than women is a bigot unsuited for command and (2) women have more emotional intelligence and can read maps better than men and thus are more suited to command?
As a general rule the Chairman of the JCOS would have held certain types of commands or been the Vice Chairman at some point. However, the President is allowed to forgo those rules if necessary.
The guy wasn't on active duty and hadn't been on track to become Vice Chair or Chair of the JCOS. That's unusual. But he has the stars, has an excellent track record, and he is "qualified". The "reporter" is just trying to push a political talking point.
here's the precise wording:
(b) Requirement for Appointment.—
(1) The President may appoint an officer as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff only if the officer has served as—
(A) the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff;
(B) the Chief of Staff of the Army, the Chief of Naval Operations, the Chief of Staff of the Air Force, the Commandant of the Marine Corps, or the Chief of Space Operations; or
(C) the commander of a unified or specified combatant command.
(2) The President may waive paragraph (1) in the case of an officer if the President determines such action is necessary in the national interest.
Thanks, was too busy today to look it up.
So basically he’s qualified because the President determined he is. Imagine that, the Constitution giving the ultimate say in matters of the executive branch to the president.
I don't comment directly on regulation much but I would like to flag an emerging regulatory battle that is happening in D.C.
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The net effect of a continued hostile regulatory stance towards stablecoins will only be to regulate ourselves out of the picture like Europe with AI.
The future of stablecoins can be U.S. dollar based only if we allow a broader competitive set of stablecoin issuers to flourish and deny gatekeeping/gaslighting by those interested in regulatory capture
This assumes the gate swings both ways and that both sides are relatively interchangeable. I could make a case that from a stability, authoritarian, and globalist perspective stablecoin is the worse option (technically, this is the issue itself) but the idea that US 'players' doing it 'at the expense of US interests' sounds, at best, like a tin pot dictator trying to tell people how to buy and sell their currencies globally and, at worst, like driving at some sort of approved or ideal, but hilariously oxymoronic, global (crypto) currency hegemony.
Not my idea but someone suggested DOGE should be renamed Federal Agency for Financial Oversight.
Ha! Better than "Federal Oversight and Auditing Department"...
Federal Auditing Financial Oversight.
I must say, Good Liz's choice of a Pro-"Gover*ment" protester as the feature pic for the article feels like a nice throwback.
Shouldn't spelling "government" wrong when you've worked for the government your whole life be one of the things that get you fired?
I don't know, maybe he's a janitor and it would have no effect on his job. But if he still can't spell it right, to the point that he makes a poster spelling it wrong, but is too lazy to just create a new one, doesn't that encompass some of the problems with worthless bureaucrats?
I can only assume the back of the poster says something to the effect of:
Destruction
Of
Goverment by
Ellen Musk
Hell Now!!!
Quickly becoming one of the most important accounts on X, IMHO. She’s been the one tracking the NGOs and their connections to politicians. She’s also got a database of those small ActBlue and WinRed donations going.
https://x.com/datarepublican/status/1894225622547009875?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
I suspect most of the tantrums being thrown by the goldbrickers at r/FedNews are based off of the fact that they don't really have an answer for Fully Weaponized Autism and how it relentlessly documents everything when it's got a task to focus on.
An illegal immigrant underclass is also necessary to sustain their class warfare model. A big part of the left's propaganda campaign is that median or quintile wages are stagnant. But this is in large part a statistical sleight of hand because the new lowest quintile has mass numbers of unskilled laborers without comparison in the prior datasets. Without this constant inflow of specifically productive people their numbers don't work.
They also like to ignore the fact that people don't, in general, stay in the same income quintile for their whole lives.
That's the point of Illegal immigrant labor. They're a permanent underclass, not likely to move to a higher quintile, often keeping quiet about abuses so they don't get reported to immigration. Now fast food or construction labor isn't an "entry" job, it's where I guy works for cash or minimum wage forever. Keeps those numbers nice and skewed when you have 20 million illegal workers in the mix.
Similar to when H1Bs are hired to do shit like IT work or regular programming. But that's a different complaint.
DOGE for the win. Keep our spending problem front and center, force the country to meet it head on.
Never Give a Inch.
So when you see jeffsarc talk about democracy here…
https://x.com/datarepublican/status/1894228536115827018?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
Someone used AI to take a bunch of clips of talking heads riffing on that phrase and replaced "democracy" with "bureaucracy". It did a pretty darned good job and it's funnier than heck.
https://x.com/Banned_Bill/status/1853842945767592429
The NGO trick works even better with "bureaucracy" since it encompasses the government too.
"President Donald Trump said tariffs scheduled to hit Canada and Mexico
Fuck you. No Taxation without Representation!
The problem with DOGE is that one person waste is that often another's necessary spending. Another problem with waste is that it is often the result of duplication. Rather than a wall of receipts how about a simple list of funds that are spent for duplicate efforts. My problem with DOGE is not the idea but rather that it seems more interested in sound bites than saving money.
So paying an NGO that sends 80% of its money to board members in DC and a mere 5% to its goal, that being trannie dancing for little boys in Buttfuck, Fuckaitallistan, is a good use of money to you?
It's good for those board members. Which is why "another's necessary spending" is not something that should be considered in judging the spending. Is it a necessary and constitutional government function is the only relevant question.
How about the people who care DONATE their own damned money instead of reaching inside my pocket for MY money?
Works for me. How about we all get to direct what agencies of the government get our tax money.
How about fuck no and you send it to whatever private organization you want and we leave government out of it altogether?
What is this fetish you statists have for making the government part of everything everyone does? What does government bring to the table that private organizations don't, or you don't yourself?
Oh, right: coercion and collectivism.
What private agency do you recommend for defense? Are we replacing ICE with a private agency? Or police and prisons? What about courts, should we privatize them? I haven't argued for government being part of everything but I do recognize that some level of government is necessary. We have the government we have now because that what people wanted. To effective cut back we have to get people to agree to a new level.
How the fuck did you jump from funding NGOs to deleting actual government agencies?
What private agency do you recommend for defense?
Are you really trying to argue that the DoD doesn't already outsource some of its functions to private industry?
I have quite a few defensive weapons myself. No Russkies or Chinamen illegally invading my state.
Or even Canadians.
DOGE is at it. Don't let perfect be the enemy of the good.
Socialized charity isn’t moderate.
Charity at the end of a gun is NOT a good idea.
If we socialize the losses of the wealthiest why should we not socialize to help the poorest?
Because we clearly can't afford either, you lefty bitch.
We shouldn’t socialize the losses of anyone retard.
So stop socializing the losses of the wealthiest! OTOH, being wealthy should not be PUNISHED, either.
Taxpayers money so taxpayers should decide what is "necessary" and what is "waste." It's not subject to some vague subjective notion based on who benefits from it.
Get better talking points 50 center.
I am fine with taxpayers deciding and not Elon Musk.
Taxpayers voted for this.
Exactly this
The taxpayers decided in November. Trump campaigned on this with Elon at his side.
Damn, should not have replied to a retard.
My problem with DOGE is not the idea but rather that it seems more interested in sound bites than saving money.
Nobody believes this. The tactic for left wingers pretending to be liberals/centrists is to always advance the least offensive objection to the right. But if they really objected for these reasons as the original objections are overcome the person's conclusion would change. So the way to distinguish someone sincere vs a propagandist is whether they respond to this by changing their conclusion or by announcing a new objection. Someone who never changes is not being honest.
The classic tactic was on racism. Leftists used to claim they only supported equal treatment. When achieved they claimed they only supported affirmative action. When achieved they claimed they only wanted race preferences. When achieved they claimed they only wanted CRT. If they achieve that they will support reparations. If they achieve that they will support more reparations.
There's always another step to take. That's why it's a mistake to compromise. Every compromise takes you away from the most defensible position, in this case treating everyone the same. That's the role of propagandists, to convince you to give in just that little bit. But as a result you empower them and impoverish yourself making it easier for them to defeat you when they immediately attack you on the next issue.
The cry for reparations is well underway.
"There's always another step to take."
The essence of progressivism. There is not end goal, only an objective from which to pursue further goals.
Since Ayn Ran was the subject of an article yesterday, I'll mention one of her essays she wrote about compromise. If you and another agree on the premises, attempting to compromise can be fine. If, however, you don't agree on basic principles, compromise is impossible and attempts at it harmful.
If you both agree with property rights, you, the buyer, and the baker, the seller, can compromise on the price of a loaf of bread. If you believe the baker is an evil kulak who is just extracting wealth immorally from society, and deserves to be paid nothing when you take his bread by force, compromise will only embolden you, the communist, in this example.
Now apply that to the DEI and CRT crowd. If you are a straight, white man, you are tainted by everything bad ascribed to white men. Trying to compromise and partially enact some of CRT and DEI will only lead to your demise. No matter how many times you say, "I'm not racist," you only prove how racist you are to the DEI crowd. Giving an inch here means, in time, you'll be ceding miles.
It's always more. You'll never hear them say: "Welp, that's it, we got enough. Problem solved. We don't need anything else. Thanks!"
Parody.
filling out paperwork takes roughly 11.9 billion hours per year .... The average US hourly wage is $36/hour, so ... government spending is underestimated by $391bn (the good news, if you're worried about the deficit, is that this spending is 100% financed by a time-denominated tax.
Would someone *kindly* explain this "100% financed" assertion? And has anyone received payment for filling out government paperwork? (I mean, other than government employees?)
It means that the cost is placed upon the people who have to fill out the paperwork, precisely because nobody is being paid with federal dollars to do it.
i.e.: It's a cost to the economy, but it's not part of "the deficit" or even "the budget".
Thanks!
Government doesn't fill out this paperwork, they force businesses to hire people to fill it out.
Calling it spending is confusing and not accurate. It is a cost of/imposed by government. It's not spending any more than tax cuts are spending.
"Călin Georgescu, the far-right populist"
Liz, I went over this yeaterday. Just because the msm calls someone far right doesn't make it true. Not agreeing with the globalist fags that the west exists solely for the purpose of being raided and destroyed by animals does not make you far right
Your far right brethren must embarrass you.
Define far right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics?wprov=sfti1#
Really, you’re using Wiki as a source? Are you seriously retarded or something?
It is SPB. Do you need to ask?
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
No, that's how some progs who hijacked the wiki page define far-right. What's YOUR definition, Shrike?
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Only because you’re a far left neocon interventionist who fucks kids.
You were banned for posting a link to child porn.
DOGE cuts= $15 billion? $55 billion?
Not impressed. A decent start though.
Remember this Peanuts. Donnie still owes us $3 trillion from that shitty first term.
#CutSpending
The cuts look big until you realize that the federal government spends around $16,900,000,000 per day.
Oh yes, Sarc, why bother making any cuts at all then, right, dingbat?
If they're that insignificant, why are here every day crying about them?
Because Sarcasmic is an attention whore.
His fuck you cut spending was always a lie. He's a Democrat pretending to be libertarian.
Schrodinger's DOGE:
DOGE is simultaneously aggressively cutting important spending that is necessary to a functioning government AS WELL AS acting as an ineffective, show-boating waste as it has only cut a few billion from a multi-trillion budget. Depending on the direction of the argument against DOGE, either description is correct if it shits on Trump or Elon.
Sarc supports whatever objection will help stop reducing government spending. Whoever could have guessed?
Why would Donnie owe what a democrat congress passed?
McConnell and Donnie controlled 2/3 of the legislative power.
Don’t pretend otherwise.
Last I saw, the Dems controlled the Senate since 2019.
Wrong. Dems took the Senate in 2021 when Donnie finger-fucked the two GOP Georgia Senate candidates and it went 50/50.
Remember when you told us about your 700k account?
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
turd, the TDS-addles ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Trump publicly shamed the Republicans who did not support the bill.
House controls the purse. Don't pretend otherwise.
Maybe because he enthusiastically signed the legislation saying it was better than sliced bread?
Here's his remarks after signing the massive spending bill. Doesn't look to me like he was coerced at all.
The old retread. Sarc, too long; you’re retarded; didn’t read.
Neither did Sarc.
The house controls the purse.
And the Senate and president can reject any House spending bill.
Donnie and Mitch were all in.
So, uh, please tell us all how and why you got your original account permabanned? And you didn’t forget your password, dingbat.
Civics is leftist.
Cite?
Flailing.
Repeating banal, tired strawmen arguments is sarcasmic.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
""Donnie and Mitch were all in.""
All in on what? The spending bill the house passed?
And the president has to sign a bill before it becomes law. Veto it and whip Rs into not supporting it.
Don't have your secretary of treasury negotiate a bill, champion it as great and sign it. Don't attack Thomas Massie and threatening a primary for voting no against it.
And don't team up with Chuck Schumer to overide R opposition to ending the sequestration.
Trump was terrible the first go around on spending. Here's hoping his 2nd term is marked by significant cuts: off to a bang up start tyough.
Weird, timestamp is showing this comment after sarc’s below?
It means he edited. Changes time stamps.
Hour different?
Yeah, don't give Trump a pass for that nonsense. He seemed to be enthusiastically for it, not reluctantly accepting that he couldn't stop it. Trump has never been a principled small government guy. I'm somewhat optimistic about this term. But still not expecting much because I don't believe that Trump actually cares about making significant cuts to government.
So Trump's opinion of things trumps legislative actions?
It means that you and the rest of his defenders are lying when you claim that the bill was forced on him.
It means that Sarc has a raging case of TDS.
""when you claim that the bill was forced on him.""
Something I have never claimed.
Doesn't matter that he signed it. Point being, the house controls the purse.
If he had vetoed it it would give me some reason to believe that he actually cares about reducing spending and is willing to act on that principle. As it is, I'm not convinced of that at all.
Here's one of your own style.
Trump couldn't have passed it since liberals claim Trump did nothing to help the people during the pandemic.
I'm not reading all that shit, but I'm happy for you. Or sorry that happened. Whatever applies.
turd, the TDS-addles ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Turn yourself in for your crimes against children.
It's a very tough issue—one we're talking about with Matt Taibbi
It really isn't. Did Russia or their allias stuff the ballot box, or intimidate voters by threat violence? If no, they didn't interfere. Ads on social media, maybe fake bs propaganda but they don't change election results. The citizens can choice to agree or not with those ads and that is their choice to make.
Not to refute you regarding Russians stuffing the ballot box or threatening violence, but you left out a/the third option that nobody, and they in particular, wants to talk about: Did they knowingly deceive people by, e.g., describing a law that doesn't mention the word 'gay' or 'homosexual' because it doesn't apply to homosexuals as a law discriminating against gay people?
I agree that I think everything the Russians generally did was above aboard free speech wise but, as indicated, I think such honest looks at fraud and election interference will reveal that our own media and government defrauds the people and ethically, if not criminally and by our own standards, interferes with elections far more than any foreign adversary.
Nobody has interfered in elections more than the US deep state including our own.
Really. Given what we found out in the last month, nobody has less right to complain about election interference.
Are we pretending a handful of juvenile meme jokes changed the election even though in reality they were unlikely to influence a single vote like we did in America's Russian Collusion Hoax? Or was this a serious effort?
I can't tell since no one provides details. If they don't recognize and speak to the difference it's more likely the first.
"Fired federal workers hunt for new jobs but struggle to replace their old ones"
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fired-federal-workers-hunt-new-jobs-struggle-replace-119115851
Nobody ever lost a job before!
Feds make more than the private market. They're learning that the hardest way possible.
Talk about clown world..."no money is directly lost by anyone when student loans are zeroed out." Yes, we all lose money as the Fed printing $1T in money to give to universities for tuition, etc. for which the debt is cancelled is an inflationary increase in the money supply/devaluation of the dollar. Somewhere out there are $1T in gov't bonds which have no collateral and no future cash flow from which they will be repaid. That's inflation. This guy obviously doesn't subscribe to the moral imperative of "what if everyone did it?". Gee, let's just cancel every loan and all govt debt since no one loses any money! Gimme a break.
Yeah that was a real head scratcher.
Breaking News:
Elon Musk is still a dick.
Breaking news:
Big Government oppresses the masses, wastes our money and favors the rich.
A decade after allegations first surfaced that schools operated by New York's Hasidic Jewish community were denying children a basic education
I don't accept characterizations like this because Propaganda 101 teaches the left to say this when schools refuse to teach students that Hamas can rightfully murder Jewish children because they are the rightful rulers of Israel.
If you want people to pay attention you need to be specific about how these schools failed.
More to the point, how do these failing Hasidic schools measure up to the typical failing public school?
The poll is meaningless to what is going on. It asked generic questions about cutting government spending. It does not ask any questions specific to DOGE such as: Do you support indiscriminately firing government workers? Do you support indiscriminately cutting government grants even if it also cuts grants for medical research? Do you support DOGE violating federal law and working outside of any oversight from Congress?
Another major reason the poll is worthless is that few people are paying attention enough to know what DOGE is doing. The TV and radio news is not covering the story in detail.
Also, no poll can give legitimacy for illegal and unconstitutional actions.
Cry more, loser. You got nearly 4 more years of whining and lying to go.
“The poll is meaningless to what is going on.”
If the pole said what you wanted you’d have posted it yourself you dishonest piece of shit.
I don't post nor pay attention to polls.
More lies, but that's to be expected.
The vast majority of the public is uninformed and dumb. I don't care one lick about what polls say about them.
More lies, but that's typical. Like turd, MG lies.
Does it feel bad to be even worse than your view of the majority of the public?
You just posted about and paid attention to the poll. You responded with a defense as well.
I care when people come to the wrong conclusion about polls.
No you don’t as you come to the wrong conclusions all the fucking time.
"Wrong conclusion" = "Anything that doesn't advance my stupid lefty cunt narratives."
Haha, how pathetic.
Man, dig the sand out of your vagina Tony.
No need to say anything more.
Polls are meaningless. Leading questions are often asked. Responders are often cherry-picked. But, most importantly, the sample sizes are not big enough to extrapolate the views of all voters/Americans/students/retirees/veterans/[enter whatever group the poll says XX% believe something].
Of course not - then the approval rating would be even higher.
One of the best things Federal and state governments can do is to privatize almost all government "services" and fire the associated government employees and their government employee unions. The incestuous relationship between elected officials and monopoly government employees is inherently corrupt. Any "services" that governments provide can be better provided by private for-profit enterprises on the free market, with only a few official activities financed by taxes. Of course, this would only be after massive deregulation of private activities and transactions.
Re "not letting the perfect be the enemy of the good," DOGE's "slash and burn" approach is EXCELLENT theater and, I submit, necessary at this point in US history to "shock and awe" the targets of deregulation, eliminating deficit spending and cut the deadweight overhead of government. Since draining the swamp is impossible using any ordinary means due to the sheer size and inertia of the bureaucracy, hitting it hard and fast and moving quickly across broad swaths of the official landscape may actually achieve the goal!
Repeating myself:
I was intrigued by comments made by Kevin O'Leary: “There’s this concept in private equity, when you get a bankrupt company and you go in there, you cut 20 percent more than your initial read, and then you find, like a pool of mercury, the organization gels back together again.” “Always cut deeper, harder when there’s fat and waste,” he added.
There was something in one article I read, I thought it was the O'Leary comments one, but I don't find it. Paraphrasing: If you don't accidentally cut something important, you weren't cutting deep enough. It's simple enough to recall critical performers if they get caught up in the wash.
If you have been in grants or grants adjacent then you know they aren't playing fast and loose with the numbers politico, they may actually be understating what's hidden waste.
Does DOGE have much of a mandate? How popular is Elon Musk's Department of Government Efficiency? And does it matter?
Journalists have informed me that DOGE is rogue and out of control and also unconstitutional.
Mandate: noun an official order or commission to do something.
I'm fairly certain that DOGE definitely has a mandate from the PotUS.
Journalists have informed me that DOGE is rogue and out of control and also unconstitutional.
Which is all kinds of weird. Like the SPD winning the 1933 election and the German media at the time crowing about how they're scrutinizing all these ties between sympathetic corporations and the literal fascists, cutting wasteful crony spending, and issuing pink slips to all the brownshirts and activists.
>But these receipts include "contracts that had not yet been awarded
And now it won't be - so DOGE saved us money. You can't complain that DOGE is not finding waste when its finding waste *before we wasted money on the waste.*
>no money is directly lost by anyone when student loans are zeroed out.
The people that have to pay off the lenders are losing their money - directly. I mean, is this guy an idiot? These people were lent money. Either the lenders are going to take a haircut or the taxpayers are. 'Zeroing out a debt' doesn't make the debtor whole.
>But there's no airtight evidence of any of this, and it's hard to figure out what the burden of proof should be for the high court to throw out an election result.
1. Everyone knows that you're only allowed to be in the bag for the Chinese.
2. Everyone knows there's absolutely nothing redeeming about a totalitarian dictator - unless he's Chinese.
3. If your democracy can't handle a little foreign interference then its not really a democracy.
4. Why is it bad when the Russians do it but we do worse and its ok?
25/284 Greybox Breakdown
Moderation4Ever
MollyGodiva
SarahPalinsButtplug
sarcasmic
Very, very spotty grey-boxing here - long stretches without any greyboxes. Interesting.