This UVA Law Student Was Threatened With Expulsion for Sitting Outside With Protest Signs
Kirk Wolff set out to peacefully protest Trump's plan to take over Gaza. Then an administrator and a police officer drove by.

When Kirk Wolff sat down to do some homework on the law school campus of the University of Virginia (UVA) earlier this month, he didn't expect that he'd be threatened with expulsion. Wolff had brought two poster board signs with him as he sat outside—one read "GAZA RESETTLEMENT=WAR CRIME." On the other, he had written, "REFUSE ILLEGAL ORDERS."
On February 7, Wolff set up his folding lawn chair outside the Judge Advocate General's (JAG) Legal Center and School, a training school for U.S. military lawyers hosted on the UVA campus. Wolff, who is a law student and a Navy veteran, wanted to make a statement in response to President Donald Trump's proposal that the U.S. take over the Gaza Strip. He hoped his presence would "remind those officers who are going to be making that decision of their moral and legal obligations to not comply with those orders because they would be unlawful," he tells Reason.
Before protesting, Wolff says that he scoured UVA's rules around student speech, going so far as to look up the land survey to ensure he was on UVA property, not the property of the JAG school. Still, when he sat down with his signs, he wasn't expecting trouble. He says that friends and classmates expressed concern when they learned about his plan to protest and asked whether he needed a legal observer. "I responded, 'No, this is totally innocuous….I'm just doing my homework," Wolff says. "It won't be a big deal. And it turned out that they were completely right, that I had every reason to be scared."
Within a few minutes of sitting down, Wolff says a University of Virginia Police Department vehicle drove by "really slowly." Every 15 minutes after that, he said, police cars continued to drive by where he was sitting, about half a dozen passes in total. The final police car contained a UVA administrator, who stepped out accompanied by a campus police officer and confronted Wolff, telling him he had to leave.
"I actually know my First Amendment rights very well and my rights as a student here," Wolff says in a video of the encounter obtained by Reason. "I'm not on JAG school grounds, and I'm not doing anything against the rules."
The administrator—whose name has been redacted in the video at the request of Wolff, who expressed concern that she might face public or professional backlash—continues to press Wolff to leave for several minutes. As the video progresses, Wolff calmly reiterates that, as a student, he has a right to stay where he is.
"Are you willing to comply?" she asks.
"No….Comply with what?" Wolff replies.
Eventually, the administrator reads Wolff a "final warning," telling him, "You are instructed to comply with university policies or leave the area immediately. If you do not comply or leave you will be issued a no trespass order barring you from university property for up to four years. Students will receive possibly an interim suspension. And that would disenroll you from your classes."
Soon after, Wolff stopped recording and called Kelly Orians, one of his law professors. Wolff says that a few minutes after calling his professor, the administrator reversed course and told him he wasn't breaking any rules and could stay.
Three days after the incident, Wolff met with UVA Associate Vice President for Student Affairs Marsh Pattie. Wolff says that Pattie told him that, based on the officer's body camera footage, the university had determined that the original administrator hadn't followed procedures correctly and that the university would change its policies to no longer send police officers to speech-related incidents. (Wolff's characterization of the discussion with Pattie was confirmed by Orians and another UVA law professor, Thomas Frampton, both of whom attended the meeting.)
"I was like, 'Why? Why are police officers involved?' I understand if somebody is being disorderly or yelling, but I actually hadn't even said a word to anyone," says Wolff. "I'd been sitting just quietly in a chair with a law school book." (The University of Virginia police department did not respond to a request for comment from Reason.)
Wolff also says that Pattie told him that the response had nothing to do with the content of his signs. But Wolff says, "I can guarantee you that if I'd been standing there with a sign that said 'Thank you for your service,' I would not have had a police officer in my face." Reason reached out to both Pattie and the UVA communications office for comment on this story, and a university spokesperson responded with a statement that reiterated the idea that Wolff's experience had nothing to do with the fact that his signs were about a touchy political issue. "The content of the expressive activity in question was irrelevant to this encounter," the statement reads.
The spokesperson framed the incident as the administrator's attempt to "gather information about their expressive activities on Grounds," adding that "once it was determined that the individual was affiliated with the University, his expressive activity continued that day, as well as the following Monday." However, after Wolff identified himself as a student, the video clearly shows that the administrator continued telling him he had to leave for more than three minutes, only stopping after Wolff called a law professor.
In the days following the incident, the university seemed to contradict what Pattie told Wolff. In a statement to Virginia Law Weekly obtained by Reason, the same UVA spokesperson had added a key phrase: "No University policies were violated by University officials."
Despite not facing disciplinary action, Wolff is frustrated with the university's response. Ever since the university cracked down on a pro-Palestinian encampment last spring, he says that the university climate has been marked by pervasive self-censorship. "Basically what I told [Pattie] is that the environment at UVA is one of abject fear," he says. "People do not feel like they can speak freely."
Wolff says that what he really wants is for the university to release a statement assuring students of their rights to protest. "You don't have to say about Palestine or Gaza….just say, 'Feel free to protest. If you don't like what's going on, feel free to protest. And that's it.'"
"I spent almost 10 years in the Navy, from my time entering the Naval Academy until getting out and going to law school," Wolff adds. "I spent those 10 years without First Amendment rights. And I'll be damned if I'm going to be told that I can't exercise my rights when I can."
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An encampment is not speech.
Colleges are seemingly fine with the idea of mini-pogroms on campus (see elite campuses in the summer of 2024) but don't you dare carry some signs around.
Yeah, I don't see what the story is here. An administrator showed up and made a bad call, reversed it almost immediately and the Dean told him in a meeting he had every right to do what he did. That administrator needs a little training but other than that this is a long winded non story.
So the guy had a conversation with an administrator who was advised that she was not following policy and nothing else happened except this guy whining about it. This is the kind of deep dive libertarian reporting that makes me want to sign up for Reason Plus.
Interesting that you have no problem with police officers being sent to arrest people for exercising their first amendment rights.
Didn’t read that he was arrested.
The officer isn't reported to have even suggested arrest was a possibility.
The mere presence of the officer implies a threat of arrest.
Except they weren't. They accompanied the administrator as a precaution and to enforce his being escorted off campus. When the administrator realized she was wrong the entire thing was dropped. No one was threatened with arrest.
If you can't find a story that fits your narrative, make one up.
Unless you're talking about a specific Foundation that Supposedly Supports Individual Rights
in Educationand Expression, we don't talk about that.He wasn't arrested. Sarc is lying again.
Dude was probably praying.
Praying, maybe, or just standing there quietly contemplating life, either way, the point is that a pro-Palestinian law student at UVA, who totally isn't a part of or has bought into the documented astro-turfing on the subject, managed to dunk on a nameless UVA admin.
"Despite not facing disciplinary action"
Oh ok.
I am waiting for someone at actual Gaza talks to go outside and study for a law school exam. DOES ANYONE DO THEIR JOB ANYMORE ???? This person will make a terrible lawyer. If there were a legal point to be made, walking with a sign in front of other law students is surely useless.
He should be charged with Capital stupidity and unedifying SLOTH.
I'm still puzzled over this "unConstitutional Orders" thing. What is he talking about?
Students are exercising free thought. Send the police immediately!
You left out the fact that encampment is against university policy. You are stupid.
It wasn't an encampment.
Eventually, the administrator reads Wolff a "final warning," telling him, "You are instructed to comply with university policies or leave the area immediately. If you do not comply or leave you will be issued a no trespass order barring you from university property for up to four years. Students will receive possibly an interim suspension. And that would disenroll you from your classes."
Soon after, Wolff stopped recording and called Kelly Orians, one of his law professors. Wolff says that a few minutes after calling his professor, the administrator reversed course and told him he wasn't breaking any rules and could stay.
I left out nothing. Not an encampment and not against the policy. You are stupid.
Totally irrelevant.
There is a 3rd side to this. I notice his argument was so lame the article and most responses here just ignore it. And the forbidding and the quick reversal tell me that the 'law' is so amorphous and unclear that it can go both ways. I know about freedom of speech but just because speech is involved DOES NOT make it a free speech issue. You just want something to complain about and to look superiorly moral about.
In all truthfulness, you are stupid. It wasn't an encampment and that policy has nothing to do with the story.
Send our unqualified DEI hire who has no idea what is taught at the university because we don't care if brown people know anything.
Another fine libertarian-adjacent story from another taint-adjacent Reason jurinalist.
>"Basically what I told [Pattie] is that the environment at UVA is one of abject fear," he says. "People do not feel like they can speak freely."
Hmm, I wonder why. Could it be because a few months ago all the Pro-Hamas people were shitting on the lawn and threatening death to juice and juice-supporters?
However, I don't see the issue here.
An administrator and some cops - cops who didn't do anything except drive by - needed some remedial training. An issue that was corrected in minutes.
However, I don't see the issue here.
Did we get a call to end all federal student loans and shut down the Department of Education or did that get conveniently missed yet again?
Because something tells me that what Emma (and Wolff) really wants is to continue to use taxpayer dollars to fund kids to go to schooling *and* fund propaganda efforts for them to 'discover' and subscribe to online, where they can learn how to agitate for more sympathy, more free shit, more social ruin, and more socialism.
I wish to thank Kirk Wolff for his service. To be exact, the service to our nation he performed by protesting. Questioning authority is patriotic, and if anything is a patriotic duty, questioning authority is a duty of the highest order.
Responding to Gaear Grimsrud, 'Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)', mad.casual, and Bananas. Yes Wolff was not arrested and was not disciplined by the University, but he was threatened with academic discipline and arrest by an admistrator who was acting under color of law.
If Wolff had not thought to call his professor, or he had not had a cell phone in his possesion, or he had been unable to reach Kelly Orians, thing might have gone differently. He might have been arrested on the site, or been arrested the next time he attended class. Until Wolff called Orians, and until the administrator reversed course he faced a credible threat intended to have a chilling effect.
might ≠ will
As it stands, the article is a nothingburger.
Indeed!
But it could.
When government apartachiks pull this kind of shit the first question to them should be please cite the specific university policy I am violating. I'm betting she wouldn't be able to do that. Even if she did the response should be the 1st Amendment trumps your university regulations. Interfering with my rights may land you & the university in a lawsuit.
She's a Black university administrator. There's no reason to assume she would be able to read the policy.
Speaking as a student and teacher, I don't go to school to be involved in riots, encampment, shouting, legal tiffs, etc. I object that that person had to make a non-legal point in front of a law school and AGAIN contrilbute to students not learning, teachers not teaching, and nobody really doing their job. Nobody just does their job anymore.
Responding to Gaear Grimsrud, 'Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)', mad.casual, and Bananas. Yes Wolff was not arrested and was not disciplined by the University, but he was threatened with academic discipline and arrest by an admistrator who was acting under color of law.
He openly admits to going through the policies to see exactly how far he can agitate specifically without violating policy. Regardless of the law, this is a typical activist and lawerly, socially destructive race to the bottom every bit as much as CBS edits.
In courts and other circles of law it would rightly be recognized as bad faith. Outside courts, it would rightly and objectively be recognized as an entitled law student with plenty of money and time on his hands intentionally baiting and then dunking on an admin who works to keep the university running, potentially without enough time to know exactly which survey line renders the student on University property and which renders him on public property.
If Wolff had not thought to call his professor, or he had not had a cell phone in his possesion, or he had been unable to reach Kelly Orians, thing might have gone differently.
Except he deliberately researched and staged the situation, possibly even with the professor's encouragement, to achieve this end. Further, your "What if... ?" despite the admitted research and staging only further highlights the bad faith and compounds it with your own.
Until Wolff called Orians, and until the administrator reversed course he faced a credible threat intended to have a chilling effect.
He faced a credible threat of removal. There was both by his assertion and the administration's affirmation, no threat of his expulsion. Your, and his, concern trolling doesn't advance free speech it undermines it. You, and he, don't care about abushing people, respectfully disagreeing with them, misunderstandings, respectful disagreement, no harm no foul, etc. You care about aggrandizing yourself and your political cause even if it sacrifices free speech and good will.
This is the same bullshit as the Henry Louis Gates/Beer Summit fiasco that made even Barack Obama look like a retard and you dumb shits keep doing it like "MUH FREE SPEECH!" is a valid defense against trying to convince people that you're a victim of your own retarded 'man on the street' legal advocacy that was parody more than 20 yrs. ago.
"You care about aggrandizing yourself and your political cause even if it sacrifices free speech and good will."
Our political cause IS free speech. For a libertarian, the benefit of the doubt lies with the individual, not the state or institution.
> "He openly admits to going through the policies to see exactly how far he can agitate specifically without violating policy."
It takes some seriously bad-faith mental gymnastics to cast a man's efforts to read, understand, and obey the rules as something sinister.
It takes some seriously bad-faith mental gymnastics to cast a man's efforts to read, understand, and obey the rules as something sinister.
Are you saying he was making a good faith argument that "GAZA RESETTLEMENT = WAR CRIME" to the students and administration of the University of Virginia?
Again, how dishonestly are you people going to retard yourselves and strive to dishonestly retard others about this?
I have no idea if it was a personal belief of his or if he was trolling, I've never met and talked with the guy. What I do know is that he went to the policies of the university and made sure he complied. What else does someone what out of him? I disagree with his stance but he protested in the correct manner the University set out. He obviously knew the rules better than the administrator that initially threatened him.
"...going through the policies to see exactly how far he can agitate specifically without violating policy." Which to me is saying, he researched the rules so he could follow them. He was then accosted by people who are supposed to enforce the rules but did not know them. In your screwed-up worldview, that puts him in the wrong?
I wish to thank Kirk Wolff for his service.
First, I don't. I have a couple family members who are JAGs who never left the green zone. They signed up specifically to get the government bennies in the latter portion of the war for as little risk as possible. I've worked harder and am better with a sidearm and my fists than any of them. Combat veterans deserve honor and I won't specifically disrespect someone for serving (a couple of Infantry Marines on the other side of the family that, at this point, could probably put me in my place even on the range), but this is the sort of mindless hero-worship that leftists used to impugn Republicans for. The sort of retardation that Trump slam dunked into the political trashcan by calling out John McCain's Neocon warhawk hypocrisy.
Questioning authority is patriotic, and if anything is a patriotic duty, questioning authority is a duty of the highest order.
Again, this is self-defeatingly retarded. Signing up for a 10 yr. tour where you can't question authority is the definition of highest order patriotism of questioning authority? You didn't meet the IQ standards to get in did you?
Further, even now, he's not questioning authority. There has been no order from UVA or Trump or even Israel to resettle Gaza. There was off-hand speculation or spit balling about the types of solutions that could be conceptualized, but that's about as far from authoritative as you can get. By his own precepts, *everybody* is allowed to spitball.
He's simply regurgitating the activist propaganda and methods that he picked up somewhere else. This guy doesn't even rise to Reality Winner levels of 'bravery', 'free thought', or 'anti-authoritarianism'.
Not feeling you can freely express yourself is something many Americans feel. Ultimately, nothing happened. The fact that you're made to feel uncomfortable? I'm 67. I'd run out of fingers trying to count the times I've felt uncomfortable, even a little scared to freely express myself over the course my life. Drama, party of one, your table is ready.
Ok Little Emma. Now do democrat harassment and violence towards Jews on campus.
WTF does that have to do with a post about a university administrator and her campus cop accomplices threatening and trying to intimidate a man legally exercising his first amendment rights?
Small problem. He was on University, not public property. This would be like me sitting in a Mall with these signs. I have no "right" to be there. I am there with the permission of the owner of that property. That permission can be revoked at any time. Once that permission is revoked and I am informed of it and do not leave then I am trespassing. He was just trying to provoke a response from the University. He says that he was protesting Trump's policies. If it wasn't for that, this article would have never been written. TDS runs deep at Reason.
Moar Free Speech! My heart sings at the new dawn! We can now say what we want so long as it is approved by the authoratah! Gawd Bless Trump and his Prophet Elon!
What, exactly, did Trump or Elon have to do with this?
Just because they live in your head does not make them responsible for everything.
Whatever. This is about 1% of what happened on the other side in the last admin. Give us a break. Slow police cars and some administrator, who reversed course. Blah Blah.
Fires, sit ins, people injured and threatened, expulsions for sure.
Free speech was under attack. This is a spit ball.
Where is the Reason applause for the EO directing Federal agencies to leave media ALONE?
Future history video of (another nothingburger story of) Kirk Wolff's free speech rights being chilled by a Puerto Rican woman.
Doesn't look like Woff. It's in Chicago . Not the same situation.
Ok, now let's have a Berkeley student set up a table on campus with a MAGA poster on one side and a 2' x 3' poster of Trump on the other, and watch him get screamed at, pelted with all manner of objects such as rocks and human feces, physically assaulted, and finally asked to take it all down and leave immediately or face the wrath of the campus police and administration. Then, let's see if anyone at Reason would bother to write a preachy "free speech" article about THAT incident.
They have managed to ignore many activists violating rules and getting nothing for it.
I don't agree with the student's position on the issue.
That said, unless he would have been told to leave if he had been sitting there studying without the signs, he shouldn't have been asked to leave.
Okay but now that future students know this : If you don't like this kind of bullshit do not go to this school -- forget what you think of Gaza, don't go to this school.
DEI hire (black, check / woman, check) threatens student and Navy veteran with expulsion, using pig as "muscle" till ze was overruled by zer superiors.
There. I fixed it for you.
"GAZA RESETTLEMENT=WAR CRIME." On the other, he had written, "REFUSE ILLEGAL ORDERS."
So, pro-terrorism and insurrectionism.
Got it. Your rules, not mine.
"Basically what I told [Pattie] is that the environment at UVA is one of abject fear," he says. "People do not feel like they can speak freely."
Welcome to Thunderdome, kid. Hope you're ready because, although I'm sure it's new and jarring to you, Conservatives have been playing by these rules for quite some time.
Let's go.
Too local