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Free Speech

Disinformation Experts Hate Trump's Free Speech Executive Order

As expected.

Robby Soave | 1.23.2025 3:47 PM

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Newly inaugurated President Donald Trump signed a bevy of executive orders earlier this week, including one that seeks to end the federal government's pressure campaign on social media companies.

The "Restoring Freedom of Speech and Ending Federal Censorship" executive order reaffirms the free speech rights of social media users and prohibits government agents from engaging in unconstitutional censorship.

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"Under the guise of combatting 'misinformation,' 'disinformation,' and 'malinformation,' the Federal Government infringed on the constitutionally protected speech rights of American citizens across the United States in a manner that advanced the Government's preferred narrative about significant matters of public debate," states the order. "Government censorship of speech is intolerable in a free society."

This order is, as the Abundance Institute's Neil Chilson recognized, "good and appropriate." Much of the censorship on social media sites that rightly irked libertarians, conservatives, and dissidents of all stripes was not enforced by the platforms of their own free will; on the contrary, they were browbeaten by various federal agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and the White House.

It's right and proper for Trump to tell the bureaucrats who work at these agencies: that's enough of that. The First Amendment protects misinformation and hate speech, and the feds have no business policing these categories of speech on social media.

Needless to say, self-described disinformation experts hate this order—and mainstream media organizations are always happy to provide a megaphone to their complaints. CNN saw fit to enlist Nina Jankowicz, the discredited former DHS disinfo adviser, to offer a thunderous denunciation.

"Disinformation is not a partisan issue; it's a democracy issue," Jankowicz said in a statement. "America's adversaries benefit when our country is internally divided and politically polarized."

On the contrary, internal division and even polarization are the blessings of liberty. Americans disagree strongly on what policies are best for the nation, and we exercise our free speech rights to vigorously debate. Free speech is pro-democracy; America's adversaries—countries like China and Russia—on the other hand, crack down on free speech and eliminate internal dissent wherever possible.

Another expert cited by CNN fretted that the order would get in the way of vital communication between government actors and platforms.

"The vast majority of tech-government contact is not around political speech but is around areas of national security and fighting financial fraud and child sexual abuse material," John Wihbey, an associate professor of media innovation and technology at Northeastern University, told CNN.

Wihbey, unlike Jankowicz, has a point: There are legitimate reasons for law enforcement, for instance, to interact with social media companies for the purposes of flagging, investigating, and removing child sexual abuse material, threats of violence, and terrorism. Since those categories of behavior already fall outside the scope of First Amendment–protected activity, however, efforts to police them are not imperiled by the executive order.

Government actors can and should work with social media companies to identify crime, violence, and sexual abuse—and take that content down. But the feds cannot and should not weaponize vague "national security" objections and pressure private companies to comply with unconstitutional dictates.

The next step is for Congress to codify this order into law. With a Republican-controlled Senate and House of Representatives, lawmakers could take powerful action to safeguard the free expression rights of social media users—even if that makes Jankowicz really sad.

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  1. Uncle Jay   4 months ago

    The headline should read, "Proggies Hate Trump's Free Speech Executive Order."

    1. Stupid Government Tricks   4 months ago

      "Proggies Hate Trump's Free Speech Executive Order."
      "Proggies Hate Trump's Free Speech Executive Order."

      1. Zipcreature   4 months ago

        Nailed it!

    2. Bubba Jones   4 months ago

      I love how the Democrats are so angry after spending all summer astroturfing social media.

  2. TrickyVic (old school)   4 months ago

    """America's adversaries benefit when our country is internally divided and politically polarized."""

    So The View is working for China?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   4 months ago

      Nope, everyone hates the view, it's quite unifying

      1. Mayor Vaughn for President   4 months ago

        Hardly.

        Conservatives love The View. Their media platforms it every single day.

        Many of us would have thought it died off many years ago, yet everyday, they have more installments of Viewiness for their respective audiences. Pretty they make up 90% of the viewership.

        1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   4 months ago

          To be fair, those psychotic old crones do a bang up job of meeting every conservative trope about establishment progressives there is.

          1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   4 months ago

            They’re undead monsters. I’m absolutely certain that if any of them had a wooden stake driven into their heart that it would destroy them.

            This theory should be tested on all of them.

  3. TrickyVic (old school)   4 months ago

    Dems have doubled down on dividing and polarizing. You can't even have a conversation with them about Musk's so called nazi salute. If you disagree with them, you are a nazi too.

    Zappa said a mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it's not open.

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   4 months ago

      The thing about calling it a Nazi salute is how stupid it makes them look the second someone sees the clip.

      But across X and Facebook you see the bots pushing the same message en masse.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   4 months ago

        Unfortunately the bots in real life are pushing that message too, not just on the interwebs.

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   4 months ago

          More Marxists that need cancelling.

      2. Zeb   4 months ago

        You'd think they would give up on the "call them nazis" tactic after it totally failed to move anything in the election. It's so fucking absurd. Yeah, Musk is secretly a nazi. He's spent his whole life doing and saying things that have no resemblance to nazism, and has spent the last several years promoting free speech, entrepreneurship and general individualism. But just at this moment he let the mask slip and showed everyone he's really a nazi. Despite everything he's ever said or done. And despite the fact that 99.9% of everyone still thinks Nazis are evil garbage and would never support an overt nazi.
        Seems legit.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   4 months ago

          He's just channeling Soros.

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   4 months ago

          ""He's spent his whole life doing and saying things that have no resemblance to nazism, and has spent the last several years promoting free speech, entrepreneurship and general individualism.""

          Details are not some people's thing.

          The nazi thing goes back to the first term when federal immigration detention centers became Trump concentration camps. Obama ran them before Trump but that was a detail they didn't understand either.

          1. sarcasmic   4 months ago

            Reason was plenty critical of Obama's detention centers, despite what the narrative says.

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   4 months ago

              Reason is critical of anything related immigration that isn’t open borders.

              Just like you.

          2. Gaear Grimsrud   4 months ago

            Trump, in demonic fashion, moves freely through space and time. He can run concentration camps in the past and future. He could have killed baby Hitler but didn't thus proving his affinity for Nazism.

        3. rbike   4 months ago

          NAzis built liquid fuel rockets. Musk built liquid fuel rockets.

          Hmmm.

          Note, I designed 5 different custom machines installed in Musk's California rocket factory.
          Maybe I am a Nazi also. My grandfather's did fight in WW1 ( but not for Germany despite my obvious German ancestry.)

          1. soldiermedic76   4 months ago

            My great grandfather also fought in WWI, was wounded on the last day of the war, only person from his squad who made it. He came home and married the daughter of a German immigrant (who was working as a nurse in a Baltimore hospital treating American wounded soldiers).

          2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   4 months ago

            Hitler was a vegetarian. Therefore all vegetarians are Nazis. And vegans are like death camp kommandants.

      3. sarcasmic   4 months ago

        Yet you keep calling anyone who disagrees with Trump a nazi.

        I'm a nazi, jeff's a nazi, brandy's a nazi, plug's a nazis, wouldn't you like to be a nazi too ...

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   4 months ago

          Oh, fuck off.

        2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   4 months ago

          No, you’re just a bunch of neo Marxists.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 months ago

            My favorite is watching some ignorant fuckstick in a Che t-shirt calling someone a Nazi. Che personally shot children in the head, you know who else did that?

            1. Vernon Depner   4 months ago

              Women on anti-depressants?

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   4 months ago

      We lost Zappa way too early. Would he be a Kid Rock or a Neil Young in 2021? Would he wear a real poncho or a Sears poncho? Sadly we will never know.

      1. soldiermedic76   4 months ago

        I grew up in North Idaho. We had a lot of old ex hippies living around us. They were almost exclusively leave me the fuck alone conservative types by the 1980s. Yeah, they grew out and smoked it, but die hard fuck the government, America is great, pry them from my cold dead hands types. Also, I should point out more than a few of them spent time in Southeast Asia. They didn't agree with the war, but also didn't run away when their draft numbers came up (one did do a stint in jail, before going over and then did a second tour voluntarily).

        1. soldiermedic76   4 months ago

          It was a timber and farming community, so a lot worked either in the mills or logging and invariably would have an American flag and likely a POW flag on their hard hats, died in the wool Reagan Democrats. Like one of our shop teachers, who was a Marine who served in Vietnam in 1968 who told stories about how on the fourth they felt homesick and bored and wanted to see fireworks so called in a fire mission on a nearby hillside, to watch the artillery. And you didn't even want to get them started on Ruby Ridge when it happened. Which was a very local story to a lot of us at the time (my Mom's family helped settle the Bonners Ferry area, there are still areas named after her great grandpa in the area, in fact her great grandfather freighted in the steam engine for the ferry the town is named after).

          1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   4 months ago

            St. Maries? Bonner?

  4. Thoritsu   4 months ago

    What? Another Trump policy for Freedom? How can this be? Can the "Libertarians" actually accept it as a win?

    Oh, and Ms Yank-your-wits:
    "Disinformation is not a partisan issue; it's a democracy issue," Jankowicz said in a statement. "America's adversaries benefit when our country is internally divided and politically polarized."
    The disinformation, and outright lies of your party and administration are both political, polarizing and unethical. You lied about COVID origin. You lied about vaccine effective. You lied about natural immunity. You lied about hunter's laptop. AND you FORCED private media companies to censor any resistance to your lies. That you can even open your mouth on this subject is astonishing. You are precisely the same the Nazi Goebbels.

    1. SQRLSY   4 months ago

      "AND you FORCED private media companies to censor any resistance to your lies."

      Please give us even ONE example of a person or company that was PUNISHED (by jail or by fines; not by merely NOT being invited to the right cocktail parties) for "wrong" moderation of political comments, on their forum? I always hear of these beasts, butt I never get any solid evidence!!! Kinda like looking for fairies, wee people, and Sasquatch...

      1. TJJ2000   4 months ago

        Dinesh D'Souza.
        Obama's IRS conservative targeting.

        Oh that was soooooo hard. /s

        1. SQRLSY   4 months ago

          These are cases of being punished for "wrong" moderation of political comments, on their forum? Citation please!

        2. Public Entelectual   4 months ago

          Dinesh rarely said anything worth contradicting and his films proved duller still .

      2. Junkmailfolder   4 months ago

        LOL have you ever been fined or jailed for not paying your taxes? If not, then I guess you're paying them of your own free will.

        1. SQRLSY   4 months ago

          NOT PAYING TAXES are cases of being punished for "wrong" moderation of political comments, on their forum? Citation please!

          Is Santa Claus and example of a neutron star? Does conventional language even MEAN anything?

        2. SQRLSY   4 months ago

          I think I finally fingered out twat ye are trying to say. The "wrong" moderation of political comments here on Reason.com are about ass wrong ass they can be, to Government Almighty, ass far ass I can tell. Has Government Almighty used tax policy to punish Reason.com for this? If so, then protest THAT abuse! If so, Reason.com needs to publicize these facts and take Government Almighty to court!

          Yes, there have been cases over many recent decades of using IRS enforcement to reward friends and punish enemies. When was this done to punish "wrong" moderation of political comments?

      3. Ken Arromdee   4 months ago

        If someone gives in to the threats, they aren't going to be punished. By your reasoning I could put a gun to your head, ask for your wallet, and if you give it to me, it's fine since I didn't shoot you. It's the threat to shoot which makes it into a robbery, even if I give in and therefore you don't actually shoot.

        1. SQRLSY   4 months ago

          A gun to my head breaks the law (unless you're a cop with qualified immunity!) NOT obeying "suggestions" from politicians about your moderation of comments on your web site does NOT break the law. In fact, what IS the threat from the politicians? They threaten to take AWAY Section 230, current law, so that they can GET AT you! All you have to do is stand your ground, as a web site owner, backed up by S-230. Butt... Twat do many-many sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturds want to do? Destroy S-230, is twat they want to do!

          OPEN QUESTIONS FOR ALL ENEMIES OF SECTION 230

          The day after tomorrow, you get a jury summons. You will be asked to rule in the following case: A poster posted the following to social media: “Government Almighty LOVES US ALL, FAR more than we can EVER know!”

          This attracted protests from liberals, who thought that they may have detected hints of sarcasm, which was hurtful, and invalidated the personhoods of a few Sensitive Souls. It ALSO attracted protests from conservatives, who were miffed that this was a PARTIAL truth only (thereby being at least partially a lie), with the REAL, full TRUTH AND ONLY THE TRUTH being, “Government Almighty of Der TrumpfenFuhrer ONLY, LOVES US ALL, FAR more than we can EVER know! Thou shalt have NO Government Almighty without Der TrumpfenFuhrer, for Our TrumpfenFuhrer is a jealous Government Almighty!”

          Ministry of Truth, and Ministry of Hurt Baby Feelings, officials were consulted. Now there are charges!

          QUESTIONS FOR YOU THE JUROR:

          “Government Almighty LOVES US ALL”, true or false?

          “Government Almighty LOVES US ALL”, hurtful sarcasm or not?

          Will you be utterly delighted to serve on this jury? Keep in mind that OJ Simpson got an 11-month criminal trial! And a 4-month civil trial!

  5. Spiritus Mundi   4 months ago

    What a nazi.

    1. Zeb   4 months ago

      Well according to Robert Reich, nazis love free speech and individual ownership of arms.

      1. The Margrave of Azilia   4 months ago

        You know who else used the name "Reich"?

        1. Vernon Depner   4 months ago

          Queensryche?

          1. Wizzle Bizzle   4 months ago

            Wipe away the teardrops from your eyes.

        2. Ajsloss   4 months ago

          Jim Kelly’s backup?

          1. Wizzle Bizzle   4 months ago

            Deep pull.

    2. SQRLSY   4 months ago

      I can NAZI twat ye are saying... WHO is a NAZI, and how or why?

  6. Gaear Grimsrud   4 months ago

    I fear Robby has been completely red pilled. An entire article and not a hint of TDS.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   4 months ago

      Good. That’s two here who have some common sense, Good Liz and Robby. Now if they can just get rid of KMW and Sullum…

      1. Wizzle Bizzle   4 months ago

        Is Boehm paying you under the table? Or is he just too obvious to mention?

    2. Muzzled Woodchipper   4 months ago

      I watch Robbie pretty often on the YouTubes. One of the main themes he’s been banging pretty hard is the necessity for the media to come to terms with Trump. That most of the country wants him as president, and that we deserve enough respect for the media to cover Trump fairly as they would any other president. He’s also noted that legacy media has cratered, and if they want to survive, they need to change their ways, particularly when it comes to Trump.

      He’s following his own ideas and doing a decent job of it. Good for him.

  7. damikesc   4 months ago

    I love seeing imbeciles proclaim themselves "disinformation experts".

    Then again, given their aversion to reality, they do provide disinfo more than almost any living human ever could hope to.

  8. MWAocdoc   4 months ago

    "they were browbeaten by various federal agencies"

    But let us not forget that perhaps the BIGGEST threat to platform free speech was not from "various federal agencies" as bad as those would be. The biggest threat was from Congress threatening to "regulate" platforms and remove their protection under Federal law.

  9. TrickyVic (old school)   4 months ago

    disinformation expert - Someone knowledgeable in managing government propaganda.

    1. Thoritsu   4 months ago

      Yep, right out of 1984 or Fahrenheit 451!

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   4 months ago

      You laugh but what about all of those bright eyed youngsters working on disinformation expert degrees? They're all going to be unemployable. How will they pay off their student loans?

  10. aajax   4 months ago

    Robby, you obviously haven't read the entire order. It bans even indirect funding of research on the phenomenon of disinformation.

    Is there a bigger coercer of the media than Trump? This order merely takes competing players off the board.

    1. See Double You   4 months ago

      No, the Trump Administration is not and has not engaged in media coercion. Cutting funding for research on "disinformation" is not "coercive," nor does it "take competing players off the board." Individuals and entities are still free to spend their own time and money researching "disinformation" and otherwise speak about it.

      1. SQRLSY   4 months ago

        Except if they piss off Trump, who will then threaten to sue them!

        Trump threatens news media, more news at 11:00, https://www.brookings.edu/articles/donald-trump-has-threatened-to-shut-down-broadcasters-but-can-he/

        Trump is an ENDLESS source of such threats of lawsuits, against ALL who tell truths about Him!!!

      2. Vernon Depner   4 months ago

        You have to think life a leftist to understand aajax's comment—all that is not forbidden is commanded.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 months ago

          Bingo! That is the corollary to - all that is not mandated is forbidden. Rules for Radicals, rules for life.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   4 months ago

      Why exactly should the taxpayers pay for indirect funding of research on the phenomenon of disinformation? Whatever that is.

      1. TJJ2000   4 months ago

        ^THIS +1000000000.
        Not seeing that enumerated power for 'funding research'.

    3. soldiermedic76   4 months ago

      Why would taxpayer money be used to study something that directly violates the first and most important amendment of the Bill of Rights, rather directly or indirectly? If this is an area of worthwhile research, there's plenty of progressive billionaires who will fund it. Keep the fucking government out of it.

    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 months ago

      "...Is there a bigger coercer of the media than Trump?..."

      Pretty sure we'd have to spend time to find a taller pile of TDS-addled shit than aajax.
      Fuck off and die, asshole.

  11. I, Woodchipper   4 months ago

    We're losing our DEMOCRACY! This dictator is dictatoring so hard.

    1. TJJ2000   4 months ago

      Dictating the destruction of the Dictate.
      The De-Regulating Authoritarian.
      "He's hollowing out [OUR] public (i.e. [Na]tional So[zi]alist) institutions (i.e. empire)", DNC platform

  12. Vernon Depner   4 months ago

    Here's another African-American giving the Nazi salute:

    1. Zipcreature   4 months ago

      “Hate speech! Don’t you know quoting MLK is RAhHhH-cist?!”

  13. Zipcreature   4 months ago

    Lefty’s “REEEEEEE!! We can’t control people’s thoughts and words and censor anymore!! REEEEEE!!!”
    Delicious liberal Nazi censor tears!

    1. Wizzle Bizzle   4 months ago

      Bro, I'm pretty sure you're confusing lefties and the Sleestak. Honest mistake. Particularly since Hillary and Pelosi are actual lizard people.

      1. Zipcreature   4 months ago

        I had to Google “Sleestak” - but it looks like a good reference - nice one!

  14. Don’t get eliminated   4 months ago

    "The vast majority of tech-government contact is not around political speech but is around areas of national security and fighting financial fraud and child sexual abuse material," John Wihbey, an associate professor of media innovation and technology at Northeastern University, told CNN.

    Report a crime and let law enforcement get a warrant. Censorship does not address this issue.

  15. Your Therapist   4 months ago

    Always a challenge reconciling Trumps inconsistencies but I was really impressed with this executive order.

    I can’t help but friggen salute him on this one.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 months ago

      ^ Stopped clock.

  16. Quicktown Brix   4 months ago

    Let's make this executive order an amendment.

    Under our current system, the law is like the cliche about the weather, if you don't like it, wait 4 years.

    With the last few administration's, I'm getting a sense of what medieval people must have felt when a king died and a new monarch came in with proclamations and a new government. "Thanks for baptizing my newborn this morning father, now we have to burn you at the stake."

  17. Paul Sand   4 months ago

    But meanwhile at the FCC... "Trump’s FCC chair gets to work on punishing TV news stations accused of bias" (https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/trumps-fcc-chair-gets-to-work-on-punishing-news-stations-accused-of-bias/)

    1. CLM1227   4 months ago

      Isn't it the FCC's job to pick winners and losers? Isn't the mainstream media mainstream because of long-standing broadcasting licenses awarded to them by the FCC? Shouldn't broadcasting licenses be revoked and awarded elsewhere where the broadcaster has a demonstrated history of misleading the wider public? If the FCC is going to be involved in awarding licenses, why shouldn't it exercise judicious judgement in when a license should be revoked and given elsewhere?

      Wouldn't a proper libertarian argument be less along the lines of "The government's approved licensing board can't follow guidelines on licensing from the US President!" And more along the lines of "why does the FCC still exist?"

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   4 months ago

        The proggies have no critical thinking skills. They stop thinking about anything the moment they hit "Trump" or "conservative" and just emote.

      2. Vernon Depner   4 months ago

        "why does the FCC still exist?"

        Broadcast frequency bandwidth is a finite resource. A system must exist for allocating it.

      3. Paul Sand   4 months ago

        Sure. Just a few months ago in the print magazine: https://reason.com/2024/11/14/abolish-the-fcc/

    2. Zipcreature   4 months ago

      Gomez said yesterday. "The First Amendment is a pillar of American democracy, and our country needs a press free from interference from regulators like me. In fact, the Communications Act explicitly prohibits the Commission from censoring broadcasters. We must respect the protections of the First Amendment and the restrictions in the Communications Act."

      If I didn’t live through the past 8+ years of Lefty censorship and silencing, maaaaaybe I would agree.
      But the Left started it with “Russia Russia Russia” so the gloves are off - no sympathy for the enemy at this point (I promise they wouldn’t have any for their opponents!)

      1. With Trump in, "now Lord you can let your servant go in peace"   4 months ago

        Gomez just dreams that relationship of regulator and regulated. It has rarely benn anything like regulation.

        Study of “Revolving Door” in Washington Shows One-Third of HHS Appointees Leave for Industry Jobs
        By USC Schaeffer Center
        [ a situation wherein personnel move between roles as legislators or regulators in the public sector, and as employees or lobbyists of industries (affected by state legislation and regulations) in the private sector]

        UNder Biden : the missions of regulatory agencies have often
        been anticompetitive, as capture theory implies: interest groups seek to influence agencies to insulate the groups’ members from competition, as by blocking new entry

        So do you want a tsunamai of truly bad information, set up a Disinformation Board. Bezos and Soros will buy their way on and ----- just dreaming out loud now--- The Washington Post s horrible failure under Bezos will be attributed to increased truth-telling and objectivity

        "drew about 2.5 million to 3 million daily users to its site last summer, a fraction of the 22.5 million daily visitors at its peak when Biden took office in January 2021"

  18. NoVaNick   4 months ago

    If you hate disinformation so much, there’s always China or N Korea.

  19. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   4 months ago

    "Disinformation Experts..."

    You left off the (deserved) scare quotes

  20. With Trump in, "now Lord you can let your servant go in peace"   4 months ago

    Don't you feel mongrel stupid coining such a meaningless phrase Disinformation Expert. That makes Inromation Expert (the kind we had for almost 2000 years,it makes them the opposite !!! Really really dumb. You cannot know what is dis-nformaton if you don't know what is information. So when they get mad at an EO but not at any particular claim, it can't have to do with disinformation. WHAT in particular is wrong that they know and Trump and I do not know. Can't be trans, COVID, ivermectin, climate change, AI 🙂 so what is it.
    All I can think is that true freedom of speech since it does not immediately arrive anywhere without discussion must piss them off.

    "As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another" in Proverbs 27:17. but oops I forgot , can't talk about the Bible and be unguilty of disinformation

  21. With Trump in, "now Lord you can let your servant go in peace"   4 months ago

    Ahem

    The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) now believes that the COVID-19 virus originated from a lab in China, The New York Times reported on Saturday.

    Three intelligence community elements now assess the pandemic began with a lab acciden...The CIA joins the Department of Energy, which determined the pandemic had a lab origin with low confidence, and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, which assessed a lab origin with moderate confidence.

    DIsinformation , conspiracy theory. You just acn't bear it

    after about a year on the Climate Change thing, I think it is absolute bullshit.

  22. Gregdn   4 months ago

    When I read that someone is a 'disinformation expert' I take them at their word... just not as they meant it.

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