AOC's Justifications of Violence
Plus: City-owned grocery stores, commentary on the OnlyFans sex stunt, and more...

Experiencing the violence: "This collective American experience, which is so twisted to have in the wealthiest nation in the world, all of that pain that people are experiencing is being concentrated on this event," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.) to reporters, commenting on the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, presumably at the hand of Luigi Mangione, a 26-year-old with chronic pain who was apprehended following the shooting. "This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that ppl interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an act of violence against them. People go homeless over the financial devastation of a diagnosis that doesn't get addressed or the amount they're gonna have to cover with a surprise bill and things like that. And when we kind of talk about how systems are violent in this country in this passive way, our privatized health care system is like that for a huge amount of Americans."
Gets pretty freaky when you realize how long the list is for "things lefties experience as violence." https://t.co/6DuOh2BzBX
— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) December 12, 2024
I do not know what "experience as violence" means or how the denial of a health care claim could possibly be considered violence. It's not hard to see the direct lineage of this way of thinking, given that some progressive activists and Democratic politicians and elites in academia have spent the better part of the last decade claiming that words can be violence. The idea of what ought to be considered violence has been expanded—a bit of linguistic trickery that seems hollow and patently false to people who have actual proximity to true violence; pablum that only gets spouted by those who are quite sheltered.
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Ocasio-Cortez is not only wrong to justify a murder, but she is also wrong on the merits: Government-run health care (which she supports, citing Canada specifically) does not erase suffering or indignity within the medical system. Sometimes it's the cause.
Take the case of Adam Burgoyne, a man from Montreal who, on the cusp of turning 40, suffered an aneurysm a week ago today. "Had a bit of a health scare last night, but thankfully it wasn't a heart attack," he wrote on December 5. "Not sure what it was, though, because once they made sure I wasn't dying I was thrown out into the waiting room and 6 hours later I said f*ck it and went home. Canadian health care, folks. Best in the world." He died the next day.
Burgoyne's tragic story has been making the rounds on the internet, but it's one of many examples of delayed care that ends up being a denial of care because the person passes away before doctors actually figure out what is wrong with them. "Universal" health care ends up being not so universal after all. Tradeoffs aren't erased in any medical system.
Canadian patients waited longer than ever this year for medical treatment.
Learn more: https://t.co/o4NCdiP2wv pic.twitter.com/KfnufljsW6
— The Fraser Institute (@FraserInstitute) December 12, 2024
Scenes from New York: "N.Y.C. Grocery Prices Are High. Could City-Owned Stores Help?" asks an imbecilic New York Times headline from yesterday. Let me go ahead and save you a click: No, absolutely not. Do not even think about it. This is not the way.
Or, go ahead and do it. Open "five municipal grocery stores—one in each borough" and let me film it for Reason, I dare you.
QUICK HITS
- "A more woo-woo term for complete audience capture…might be egregoric possession," writes Mary Harrington at her Substack on Lily Phillips, the British OnlyFans performer who recently had sex with 100 men in one day. "I've touched on the concept of 'egregores' before: it's a concept that comes out of occult theory, that describes collective entities arising from (or perhaps perceived by) multiple human consciousnesses. The key point is multiplicity: the intuition that a swarm or composite awareness can have agency of a kind, even if this is difficult to parse from the individualistic, human perspective.…I want to consider the possibility that Phillips' stunt is more intelligible understood not in terms of liberal feminism or the sexual revolution or whatever, but as an instance of what we might describe as egregoric capture, and the medievals would have called demonic possession."
- "In another time and place, none of this would have happened to her," writes Louise Perry of the aforementioned stunt. "Phillips is driven by two very modern forces: the OnlyFans business model, which financially rewards this kind of shocking stunt, and the ideology of liberal feminism, which she has absorbed without a moment's thought."
- "Trump's economic advisers are considering doubling the state and local tax deduction, a popular—but expensive—tax break that could deliver big savings to many residents of New York, New Jersey, and California," reports Bloomberg. SALT deductions primarily benefit people who have high property taxes to pay and who incur high income taxes from their states and localities—so high-earners, not low-income people. (I've written about the "working rich" before, also sometimes called HENRYs, and find this topic generally fascinating. Why would we ever want to disincentivize high-earners climbing their way up to the top, living in metropolitan centers, and generating enormous amounts of productivity for their industries (medicine, law, finance) and thus society? This is exactly what we ought to want. And why is it that their states and cities treat them as cash cows instead of people we should want to keep around?)
- New Just Asking Questions on how trans issues have scrambled our politics (and how the left can recover):
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Perhaps the funniest day of my life was watching the Facebook lawyers explain to @peterthiel that he counts as diverse under the then-mandatory Nasdaq DEI rules. https://t.co/kpVVwkfkCr
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Gets pretty freaky when you realize how long the list is for "things lefties experience as violence."
Words are their only recognized violence.
SILENCE IS VIOLANCE!
Even when we duct tape our mouths in silent protest?
Wrong approach. You need to duct-tape their mouths (and hands and feet).
Oh, using buttplug”s method.
I have nothing to say about that.
I wonder if she approves similar things when government passes laws that hurt you or restrict your rights.
...asking for a friend.
Depends. What's your intersectional oppression score?
Not anymore. Now it only depends on your voter affiliation.
Not just passes laws. When the gov't uses the FBI o pressure social media to censor. When the press vilifies any on the right for their opinions.
Christopher Dorner and Marvin Heemeyer were heroes.
the whole point of the rhetoric and language manipulation is to justify doing whatever they want to their enemies.
"What did you expect us to do, they were GENOCIDING us!"
If they want to go down this road, where murder is justified if you pick the right targets, I guarantee you they will not like the last few stops.
They never do. It never occurs to them that they might sometime be on the wrong end of the firearm.
Or the wrong end of blocking judges. Or on the wrong end of weaponizing the FBI. Or the wrong end of #BelieveAllWomen. Or, or, or...
Their lack of foresight is key to their philosophy. Anyone capable of thinking two steps ahead cannot possibly justify voting for modern leftist policy. It's obvious where MMT, open borders, decriminalized crime, gender fairytales, etc lead.
Ya, there are just as many if not more disaffected, angry, and 'fed-up' people on the right. And they are well armed.
They really dont want to start this game of street justice based on people's feelings. There is a large amount of insanity tolerated from the left that needs to be shut down in one way or another. They dont want to open this door
I guarantee this.
Pretty much everyone who cheers the murder of Brian Thompson demanded that hospitals deny medical care to those who refused to take the COVID-19 vaccine!
"Pretty much everyone who cheers the murder of Brian Thompson demanded that hospitals deny medical care to those who refused to take the COVID-19 vaccine!"
I suspect you are right on the money with that.
Words are violence and "silence is violence" in cases where they see people as having failed to say the "correct" thing, or to engage strongly enough as "anti-whatever" (which usually entails using exactly the method/tactic they're claiming to abhor but directing it at someone that the left has decided is "problematic").
What doesn't count as violence is looting and/or arson (if they happen somewhere that a "chosen" group is protesting, assault on anyone that's failed to "check their privilege", and now possibly the premeditated killing of anyone with above a certain level of net worth and/or a job title which ends in "Officer".
This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but-
BUT we all secretly know it is.
She likes big "but's" and she cannot lie.
You know who else liked big buts?
Sir Mix-a-lot?
/and he cannot lie
Joe Camel?
Hub City Stompers?
https://youtu.be/4qqaEEGFaP0?si=TPjDv6mOkgroNK4p
Me.
Alex Stein?
Winner
...given that some progressive activists and Democratic politicians and elites in academia have spent the better part of the last decade claiming that words can be violence.
Sticks and stones can break my bones but misgendered pronouns IS LIKE A KNIFE RIGHT IN THE HEART.
Bleed out faster, bitch.
"Bitch"? Did you just assume zer's gender?
AOC is a brain dead person who has no business being quoted on any subject whatsoever.
Except to make fun of her.
And yet that makes her more than qualified for Congress.
And a champion for progressives.
Picture a billboard depicting a caricature of AOC wearing a white leotard and bunny ears. "Screw the Rich" is splashed diagonally across the leotard in red. Her expression is that classic AOC with the bug-out eyes and buck teeth. Standing along the sidelines, applauding her are Kamala Harris, Tim Walz, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and other villains of the Democrat Party. A caption below the image reads: "Silly Rabbit! Socialism is the ELITES' Paradise."
It would be ironic if she were brutally raped and murdered by an illegal or one of her own party members who has an axe to grind with her.
You know, instead of a good person, like Riley Gaines.
Canadian patients waited longer than ever this year for medical treatment.
Fast, good, or cheap. Pick none, or head south of the border.
The thing is socialized medicine is never going to be good, but Trudeau imported 2 million a year into a population smaller than California, spread out over a country bigger than the US, and didn't increase healthcare spending by a dime.
The results were completely predictable.
Just like by introducing MAID, it's part of the Malthusian eliminationist ideology pushed by Schwab's Young Leaders of Tomorrow grads.
The same thing is happening in the UK where Two-Tier Kier is paying bounties to families who have their elderly put down.
Old quality control saying:
Price.
Quality.
Delivery date.
Choose any two.
Perhaps the funniest day of my life was watching the Facebook lawyers explain to @peterthiel that he counts as diverse under the then-mandatory Nasdaq DEI rules.
That was the funniest day of your life?
How sad.
She clearly never saw airplane!
And it's very telling that to the leftists their idea of fair is "any thing that directly benifit me, society be damned"
I speak jive.
“Chump don't want no help, chump don't get da help. Jive-ass dude don't got no brains, anyhow. Hm!”
Shit (Golly)
I picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.
Shirley, you must be joking!
Don’t call me Shirley.
The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.
As a kid, I liked Airplane 2 better. It recycled many of the jokes from the first movie, but added a few zingers in there. The best was the part where the guy said he just needs a little breather. Then some Mexican midget dude who's breathing heaving is presented.
"Now, Elaine, don't panic. On the belt line of the automatic pilot there is a hollow tube. Now that is the manual inflation nozzle. Pull it out - and blow on it."
N.Y.C. Grocery Prices Are High. Could City-Owned Stores Help?
JTFC.
Word to the wise, if Chicago is trying it, it probably isn’t a good idea.
If grocery prices are high, maybe they should just start executing shop owners. People can only be pushed so far.
But gun and bullet prices have skyrocketed and anyway we forced all those stores out of the city years ago.
Ghost guns are counter-inflationary ...
The price of butter is a universal lived experience.
Surprisingly even Times readers shit on this retarded idea.
I guess even sone ideas are so stupid most commies think they’re stupid. That is, unless they’re named Brandon Johnson and happen to be Mayor of Chicago.
They had experience from the teachers union run charter school. Lowest scores in the city, closed down in a few years.
"...Could City-Owned Stores Help?..."
No.
you only need one type of cheese and its not even real cheese
"cheese product"
"This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but...
Nearly every fucking leftist in the last couple weeks has said exactly this.
Kind of goes along with their excuse making for (the right kind of) rioters.
(D)ifferent.
And it is utterly valid. The system has poured millions into capturing the guy who killed an "untouchable" who made tens of millions by making decision that resulted in untold deaths. While pouring a fraction of those resources into catching all the other no name murders in the city. This is the system freaking out becuase they thought they had impugnity, and they are worried they might not.
Really? So which decisions are you talking about? And how many deaths? What other decisions could have been made under current law and regulation that would have avoided these deaths?
The CEO of the insurer always approves or denies paying the invoices my doctor sends to my insurance provider. Doesn't yours?
Actually, mine just follows the laws, rules, and regulations put forth by the federal government.
Mine follows the contract I signed for coverage.
Yes, and every time he stamps “denied”, he gets an erection.
That's the "men don't have to pay for Viagra" patriarchy for ya.
In that case, who is off limits? CEOs, middle managers, customer service reps, doctors, nurses? Board members? Politicians? Educators?
Everyone that voted for Obamacare?
Only party approved people are off limits.
You get what you pay for.
Commie shits imagine there's a Jackson orchard in every company plaza. The are stupid shits, aren't they?
While pouring a fraction of those resources into catching all the other no name murders in the city.
The best estimate for that fraction is 1/1.
Left wingers make the same complaints about everything demonstrating there is no analysis underlying their assertions.
Fuck off commie.
"And it is utterly valid..."
Fuck off and die, commie shit.
The core problem is not insurance. The core problem is a third party payer system. Replace corporate insurance with single payer system like Medicare For All (US) or just Medicare (Canada) or even NHS (England) and you will have a third party payer system. Costs skyrocket and eventually someone gets to decide you must wait six months for a visit to the doctor to evaluate your chronic pain.
Third Party Payer health care is like bread in Russia: Not everyone gets it.
De-corporatize the US medical system, de-administrate it, and return it to a market system. Then take care of the poor by providing vouchers. Bam. Done. Let the market work at the same time you take care of the poor with tax dollars. Then we can stop the stream of Canadians coming to the US for healthcare services out of pocket.
Look at you making the GOP argument during ACA. Now I'm almost curious enough to see what you said at that time. My guess is this is another one of your failed systems you supported initially.
At least he got there in the end. Something Sarc and Pedo Jeffy will never do.
The core problem is price. Modern health care is expensive.
Heath care costs so much you can't afford it on your own. I'm not talking about a standard office visit. I spent half a day in a hospital for two stents and it was $187K. Half as much as a house. For one day.
Now, if insurance did not pay, should I be mad at the insurance for not paying the outrageous price, or the people charging me the outrageous price?
In a true market, if no one could afford it, the place either lowers their prices or goes out of business.
How much would you be willing to pay for the stents?
To paraphrase Jack Benny, he's thinking! He's thinking!
How much would you be willing to pay for bread if you were starving and there was only one supplier?
If there was an actual market and competiton, prices would come down. Just because they are selling a necessity doesn’t mean it’s worth infinite money. I need food, but I can shop around for the best prices and values and not go broke just feeding myself. Medicine should work the same way, and it doesn’t because of ACA and government regulations.
It's also your HEALTH, for pete's sake. Skimp elsewhere.
You’re missing the point. If nobody is competing by offering to do the same procedure for less money, there’s zero incentive for anyone to try to cut costs. And there is no price transparency or free market in medicine, because it’s all regulated and obscured by insurance, which is required to cover certain things by law.
If there was a free market, I could look at what the difference is between someone offering to do a procedure for $50K, and the people who are charging $180K, and deciding whether the difference is worth the extra expenditure. And if it’s not worth it, the more expensive people go out of business.
That’s how a healthy market should work, and we’ve pretended that medical care doesn’t get to operate like a normal market.
Competition works through incentive, sure, but it also works through discovery.
Take early cars. They were very expensive, toys only for the rich. As much as everyone who thought about it could see that a mass-market car at a low price point would sell in huge numbers, nobody could make a car that cheap.
Until Henry Ford came along and invented the assembyline. Suddenly, he could make cars for far less than his competitors and sell them for a price that most Americans could afford.
And once his competitors saw how the assembly line worked, they implemented it in their factories, too, and the same goes for other industries.
But if there had been a government-controlled market, Ford would never had devoted the brainpower to the problem of how to make cars for less, the assembly line would not have been invented (or at least, not till much later), and we'd all be much poorer.
Or don't. It's not my health and it's none of my business.
Also, it's not skimping if you simply can't come up with $187k.
A lot of those costs are due to government regulations. Look at inflation adjusted costs from the 60s.
In large part, the prices are ridiculously high because providers have to make up for losses incurred by mandated care for Medicare, Medicaid and illegal immigrants.
Medicare has a dedicated revenue stream, and while it doesn't always cover 100% of outlays, it does cover at least most of it every year. That should actually improve as the Boomers die off, because Gen-X is such a small demographic of today's generations.
Medicaid is an entirely different matter. That is ALL pure outlay. Every single penny. There is no revenue stream for it. And it's been the leading driver of the nation's debt growth for most of the 21st Century, especially since Obamacare passed.
So getting rid of the illegals should help a lot.
You could probably get that in India or Mexico for $20k with a luxury overnight stay.
Guess that whole defund the police thing isn't working out well.
Defund the rich will work out just as well.
"This is the system freaking out becuase they thought they had impugnity, and they are worried they might not."
You're functionally evil.
Luigi Mangione was not insured by UnitedHealthcare, say police
Maybe he was just doing the left's favorite past time, raising awareness of an issue.
Just another radicalized whack job. In a year where there were two assassination attempts on a presidential candidate, this is just more of the same, only more successfully done.
And it shouldn’t be surprising that his only motivation is ideology given how many people are applauding him based solely on ideology. The problem is that there’s a dangerous ideology spreading and going unchallenged, and I think we’re heading for worse before it gets better.
Yep, another democrat murderer. We shouldn’t allow them to roam free.
It's "impunity", ignoramus.
You mean like prosecuting Dan Penny or LITERALLY a President, you dishonest lying fuck?
Go gaslight elsewhere.
You’re kind of dumb, aren’t you? Are you Pedo Jeffy? You kind of sound like him, and he’s stupid too.
A more woo-woo term for complete audience capture…might be egregoric possession...
A more choo-choo term might be pulling a train on camera for money.
I think a porn star did this in the 90s. Was it Houston? Maybe Annabel Chong? Both?
But this was just the pregame to her 1,000 person train that is on the way.
Most of her audience wasn't even born in the 90s.
You’re thinking of Houston. It was called ‘The Houston 500’. I remember her on Howard Stern’s show talking about it.
Her Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_(actress)
You know who else loves trains?
Benito Mussolini?
Soul Sister? Virginia?
Indian Ocean dolphins?
Old-fashioned brides?
Gladys Knight?
The pimps?
Mayor Pete?
Joe Biden?
The crew of the USS Barb?
I read that QuickHit twice and I still have no clue WTF she's trying to say, but this I understand.
You're welcome.
Phillips is driven by two very modern forces: the OnlyFans business model, which financially rewards this kind of shocking stunt, and the ideology of liberal feminism...
Yeah, which wave feminism is getting railed by a line of dudes for an audience of dudes again?
All of them. Feminism creates broken people
The modern dating / sex / sex work / porn world, if you went back in time and explained it to a woman 100 years ago, she would have to assume it was fully invented by the patriarchy (TM)
They will call it the patriarchy in the future as well.
"Victims" have no agency. Thus is was written, thus it will always be. Leftists have never been known to accept responsibility.
But they will accept your apologies. And your money.
I wouldn’t care for sloppy seconds, let alone #101.
"Any tread left on those tires or is it more like throwing a hotdog down a hallway?" - Stewie Griffin
From Predator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdorQm5vAtU
What's #101? You're brought into a special room to be tortured?
Trump's economic advisers are considering doubling the state and local tax deduction...
Sure. Why the fuck not. He's the quintessential Democrat. I guess we're flipping all the blue states "red" now.
"Or, go ahead and do it. Open "five municipal grocery stores—one in each borough" and let me film it for Reason, I dare you."
Given that profitability is not needed for a government anything --- you'd end up with ONLY 5 grocery stores per borough.
I bet it might be cheaper, but the LOOOOONG lines might be a problem.
Don't forget shortages. The govvy operated stores will ignore the bulk of supply chain issues and run out of food.
Communism 101.
Just outlaw shortages. Duh.
Or round up the kulaks and make an example of them.
Then send an invoice for the bullets used to their families.
long bread lines are a staple for the left
A sign of prosperity!
Exactly. See, there are long lines because the bread is so good and in high demand, comrade.
Government bread is the Apple watch of bread.
New Just Asking Questions on how trans issues have scrambled our politics (and how the left can recover)...
They'll only recover when the right inevitably and royally fucks up its chance to right the ship and when the left discovers the next niche bullshit to get their captured institutions to beat the rest of us over the head into accepting as the most important thing in the world.
"They'll only recover when the right inevitably and royally fucks up its chance to right the ship"
The right's progress against this nonsense (and impending SCOTUS ruling) is at least somewhat optimistic. Hopefully they keep it up
The last 15 years, described in one short run-on sentence.
You're welcome.
SpaceX HQ will now officially be in the city of Starbase, Texas!
In Texas no one can hear you sweat, but you're definitely going to.
Will they have a company store?
That only accepts Musk-bucks?
Liz Wolfe claims that AOC justified murder by explaining peoples reactions.
Using her logic she supports genocide because she explains Israels genocide in Gaza.
She also uses a single anecdote of a person in Canada dying from bad medical service to imply an equivalence to the US one. However we have statistics that show the outcomes in Canada on a statistical basis are much much better on almost every metric associated with longevity and quality of life for a fraction of the per person cost for the care that Americans pay.
It is this kind of dishonesty that shows she is not interested in truth, but in pushing the agenda of the profiteers who make hundreds of billions from Americans blood.
Shame!!
Are you a sock?
Either jewfree or mizek.
Man, the lefty AI is really, really bad.
You mean lefty AS.
"much better on almost every metric associated with longevity"
Sure, unless you take out the homicide/suicide and drug related deaths. Care for normal health situations (heart disease, cancer, old people shit) is top notch in the US
" and quality of life"
uh, no. You would have to live in Canada. Non starter there. Ill keep my US insanity I know and not trade it for the soy fem little bitch of a PM who debanks citizens that get too rowdy.
" for a fraction of the per person cost "
Much cheaper! Because the treatment timeline is either "how about 2-3 years from now?" vs "have you considered just dying instead?"
If you kill everyone who is sick - everyone will be healthy.
Same thing for 'homelessness'.
Don't forget illiteracy.
Just keep in mind --- the state of Vermont has more MRI machines than the entirety of Canada.
I thought that was Pittsburgh.
Both? and more?
Nobody needs 23 MRI machines.
for a fraction of the per person cost for the care that Americans pay.
The left time the left implemented their solution for this we spent ~2 trillion dollars and didn't improve a bit. Since the first effort at improving efficiency is usually the easiest I wonder what they have planned for this time: spending 10 trillion and actually decreasing performance?
We're not dealing with a bright group of people here.
The left time the left lefted leftness, lefty left lefted.
You've turned into a big, red, MAGA Smurf.
How much have you had to drink this morning to come up with such wit and wisdom, Sarc? An entire 750mL bottle of everclear?
Go play with the goats Hodor.
That's the Sarc we have come to rely on. A paragon of integrity. Always addressing the ideas, never the people.
Go left yourself.
This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.
Are these the “ideas” you talk so highly about?
Are you trying to get “muted”.
Is that like MAID or Aktion T4?
Ask Marshal.
He's the one who said "The left time the left lefted their left for left we lefted..."
This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.
You're the Democrat apologist here, so I'm asking you.
Pretty sure he meant to say "last time the left".
Sure, but there's no reason to correct it because we all knew it. He's just being an asshole. Or as we understand it: he was being himself.
I am sure as well, but Sarc thinks he’s being funny when he’s just being an ass.
Are you extra-drunk today?
The holidays are rough on sarc.
The holidays are just fine on Srac, it's his liver we need to pity.
Isn’t that just a normal day?
This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.
""You've turned into a big, red, MAGA Smurf.""
Says the guy that complains about ad hominin attacks.
Ad hominem attacks are when someone dismisses an argument because of something about the person making it. I was just making fun of a typo. An insult is not an ad hominem. Like when I say you're a willfully ignorant partisan piece of excrement, I'm not saying that to refute an argument. So that's not an ad hominem. On the other hand if I say you're wrong because you eat shit for breakfast and give blowjobs to anyone with a MAGA hat, that would be an ad hominem. See the difference? Didn't think so. You're too stupid and dishonest.
No. You don't get to just make up the definitions to suit whatever troll you decided to run with this morning.
https://www.google.com/search?q=ad+hominem+fallacy
It's even got a picture of you.
Now that is an ad hominem attack.
You didn't quote a source, you quoted a search engine. Which explains why you still don't know what ad hominem means.
Try clicking on one of those results some day.
You're really terrible at gaslighting.
Probably because that's not what gaslighting means either. You're getting these wrong on purpose, aren't you?
Isn't it work hours in Maine? Why are you committing fraud against your employer by posting so much?
Except that you’ve made multiple ad hominem attacks on people multiple times and have been called out for that shit, hypocrite. And when called out for it, the first reaction you have, dipshit, is the mute those calling you out for ad hominem attacks and your own hypocrisy.
""An insult is not an ad hominem. ""
Correct.
So you trying to insult people now?
So were you lying or being stupid when you accused me of making an ad hominem attack?
Which was it? Stupidity or dishonesty?
No, your fucktardery.
More good faith civil discourse.
Im starting to wonder if sarc is a giant hypocrite.
Poor sarc.
Definitely extra drunk today.
And he’s an angry fucking drunk. Fortunately, when he’s drunk and angry, he gets extra stupid.
So now you are trying to say my argument was wrong because I'm stupid or dishonest?
What would you call that?
You've got that backasswards. I'm saying that your argument was stupid and dishonest, which means you're stupid and/or dishonest. So which are you? Stupid or dishonest? Or both? Those are the only possible explanations for what you said.
You see, the hypocrite Sarc, although unknowing of the actual definition of ad hominem, is indeed a walking talking ad hominem machine.
So much good faith today. How do you do it?
Yes. Exactly what you do when anyone gives you a citation that counters your open borders into a welfare state beliefs. Such as...
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I don't consider links from you guys to be information. I've clicked a couple and never found them useful. It has to be from, or confirmed by, someone other than a raving right-wing lunatic for me to give it consideration.
*shrug*
Weird.
Find me a citation that isn't from an organization dedicated to the proposition that illegals are vermin that need to be exterminated, and I'll give it consideration.
Was Ashli Babbitt vermin, Sarc?
Their numbers come from the federal government dumbass.
And you just committed a literal ad hominem lol.
Then you go back to your strawman that anyone not for open borders into a welfare state is racist.
Never change you drunk lefty fuck. Lol.
Later on today he'll claim to be here for good faith discussion which only doesn't happen because others are mean to him.
I've tried with you, and all you did was make snide remarks.
More than you deserve, tbqh, troll.
You going to mute him too, dipshit?
Cite? You started attacking him after he simply disagreed with you. Your standard action of appeal to morality or your refusal to defend your own beliefs.
sarcasmic
I've tried with you,
We all know that you've never made any effort to have a good faith discussion with anyone ever. That's proven every day when your first comment is an attack not even based on the subject. The only reason you keep bringing it up is to foster an attack on others.
That's your only priority and no one is ever going to forget it.
I was just making fun of a typo.
You couldn't address the substance so you trolled the thread away from something that could have damaged the left, achieving your top priority.
We know.
There was no substance to address. You made something up, argued against it, then accused your imaginary foes of being stupid.
Self awareness is not a Sarcasmic superpower.
Every fucking thread this asshole comes in and posts nonsense.
I say we all mute him since all he wants is attention. Then we can have conversations about libertarianism in peace.
I complain, but Sarcasmic is my lolcow.
Probably 5-10% of the reason I come here is to see what his drunken and retarded ass will post next.
Im the same as ML. I find it hilarious watching the dumbass try to pretend to be an intellectual and failing at every step.
I’ll admit to being with Jesse and ML here. Sarc is merely entertaining to watch as he ducks, dives, and weaves his way through the total avoidance of any accountability whatsoever here for his comments.
I did a mid-morning check of this Round Up and there were about 100 comments. Lunch time hits, I come here and it's over 300? My first thought was "What are Sarc and Jesse yelling at each other about today?"
I get it but he doesn't even care about any of the topics you guys argue about. Do you think he gives a shit about tariffs or illegals? Do you think he actually likes that pedo dude?
He just wants to fling shit at you guys because he's lonely. It's actually sad at this point.
To be fair. I joined late today. It was sarc vs everyone else lol.
He just wants to fling shit at you guys because he's lonely. It's actually sad at this point.
I’ve accused him of similar in the past with no comment from him. He comes in here specifically to look for a fight. I think that’s why he chums up to Jeffy and White Mike so much. He has a guaranteed fight if he white knights their positions.
Note how sarc refuses to address that left wingers are still using the same complaints they did before our $2 trillion spent on Obamacare. He doesn't want to admit that because it's damaging to the left.
Then you have to ask why a 'libertarian" would have this priority. And the answer is that no libertarians have this priority. None.
The affordable care act was written by the health care industry. The purpose was to increase costs and profits.
The Healthcare industry or the Health Insurance industry?
Both. Drug companies also wrote large parts of it.
Move to Canada, leave us alone.
weird to me that the people with resources to move and apparently the motivation (per them) never do, yet tons of people fly to the US to get treatment.
Perhaps because Canada has very strict immigration laws?
Lots of those who say they will run away to Canada would not be accepted.
No!
We don't need more retards.
"Using her logic she supports genocide because she explains Israels genocide in Gaza."
Fuck off and die, antisemitic shit pile.
Liz Wolfe claims that AOC justified murder by explaining peoples reactions.
Remember when anyone who acknowledged that blowback existed was accused of supporting terrorism? Good times.
Ideas™ !
If you acknowledged blowback existed, you’d be less of a simp for Jeffy, White Dicksalad, and the fucking Pedo.
No, I don’t remember that.
Even if it happened, sarcjeff doesn't remember it. It must've come in his ActBlue talking points memo for today.
Because nobody ever did. It is possible to acknowledge blowback exists without making excuses for it like AOC just did.
Sarc has never met a fallacy he wouldn't fellate.
I bet you were one of those who attacked anyone who said "blowback" and now you're just lying about it.
I’m sure you have citations for your claims.
Sarc doesn't give citations because you only want to use them for something bad faith like disproving his argument.
You wouldn’t know blowback if it blew you in the ass, twit.
This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.
Doubles down on his own strawman. Lol.
I'd have better luck trying to teach Mozart to a chimp than attempting good faith conversation with you or any of your gang.
This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.
If you're going to pretend to be an intellectual at least choose a more obscure figure than Mozart.
You’re highly intractable.
Even a chimp would know better than to listen to you.
"than attempting good faith conversation with you or any of your gang."
This must be why Sarcasmic has never attempted anything in good faith at all.
We've given him books and links, and you see right above he refuses to acknowledge any information that counters his bumper stickers.
Thats good faith his way. And he immediately dismissed it with bad faith ad hominem attacks.
We have tried good faith multiple times and he has rejected it.
Even asking him to back his claims is met with bad faith attacks lol.
I bet you got a raging erection dragging your teenage daughter out of her bed and now you're just lying about it.
Do you enjoy the taste of your own fallacies, fuckstick?
You might want to learn what fallacy means before using the word again, chimp.
This is the good faith civil discussion sarc demands.
What's funny about this is for years sarc called insults to him an ad hominem. He misuses words constantly.
So what we've learned about sarc today:
Hypocrite
Projects
Not intelligent
Angry little drunk
Sarc didn’t deny Chuck’s accusation.
You might want to learn what fallacy means before using the word again, chimp.
This, like your previous comment, is a complete red herring. Look it up, shitstain.
Lol. He tried to literally attack my parenting skills yesterday. Despite his CPS story or the story of his daughter keying cars.
He has this weird addiction to projecting his own failures onto others. Likely to explain away his own failures as not caused by him.
My guess is sarc used blowback incorrectly to justify something stupid he said.
But of course. Vous attendiez-vous autrement?
Or drug dealer.
There were people on here that made that argument for sure (maybe not to the extent of accusations of supporting terrorism). Definitely John. I'm pretty sure there were others.
Do you remember the context he was using it in?
People arguing that our involvement in the middle east might have had something to do with 9-11.
No i don't. Do you have a cite? Or this one of your alcohol induced stories?
Unlike you I have not bookmarked thousands and thousands and thousands of comments on Reason. It is a fact that many right-wingers attacked anyone who said "blowback" and accused them of supporting terrorists. Like how you attacked anyone who disagreed with your dishonest assertion that every BLM protester was a rioter, and dishonestly accused anyone who did of supporting riots.
So you got nothing.
Hey, let’s see:
Blowback exists.
As one of the anti-"blowback" guys here, I say that blowback is bad theory. I call it bullshit because it doesn't hold up and it is used selectively. The US literally nuked a country 80 years ago, and it became one of our allies... no "blowback" there.
Now, notice that I did not call you a supporter of terrorists.
I have, and will again call sarcasmic/misek/jeff/trueman apologists for terrorists, not because they say the word "blowback" but because they take all Hamas's claims at face value, and parrot their talking points.
Sarcasmic: "I didn't say that, you're a liar, prove I said that, where's your evidence I said that you liar, where's your proof?"
Also Sarcasmic: "Unlike you I have not bookmarked thousands and thousands and thousands of comments on Reason"
Remember everybody. Sarc is very principled. Just ask him and he'll tell you.
And even given word for word quotes he still denies the clear meaning of the words.
The dude is just dumb. He wishes so hard to be intellectual. The dumb kid at the front of the class raising his arm the teacher avoids because the teacher is tired of always correcting him.
So it is one of your alcohol deluded made up stories. Thanks for confirming.
The funny thing is saec claims to be in IT but can't figure out a simple search for a 10/7 article. My guess is he does know how it works but he knows he is lying.
You're making a lot of comments today. Must be a slow day at the help desk.
The hot cop help desk? I hear they're all tall and well groomed.
Ideas™ !
Still waiting for the bar to open, Sarc?
Don't you mean liquor store?
Lol. And look at him use my same joke about his IT career back at me.
Can't even make up your own insults. Wow.
You still haven't figured out timezones? You have for more posts during working hours than I do. Oh. I'm also already on vacation for the year. Lol.
Having a non hourly job has benefits buddy. Should try it out some day.
Except the real right wingers said things like, "Your right this is going to cause blowback, which is why we should turn their country into glass." Your right wingers are figments of your imagination.
And what people here actually said was that BLM protesters who refused to disperse and leave the area were providing cover for the rioters. Because by not going leaving the area and forcing the police trying to stop the riot to pay attention to them, they provided cover for the rioters. It doesn't matter if they supported the riot or not, they provided cover either way.
Dissemble, deflect, distract.
And what people here actually said was that BLM protesters who refused to disperse and leave the area were providing cover for the rioters.
No, that's not what was said Retcon Man. What was said, by Jesse anyway, was that anyone who protested was a rioter, and anyone who didn't condemn all the protesters supported riots. I refused to condemn everyone who showed up, and for that, to this day, he claims I defended the riots. That's because he's a mendacious piece of shit, and you are as well for defending him.
You are a liar. I was part of those conversations and that is exactly what was being said. Regardless of their intentions, the protests ended up being cover for riots that ensued. We all witnessed it live on TV as people were filmed flinging firebombs at the courthouse and the protesters just kept holding the line in front of the cops, preventing them from interfering.
You can't rewrite history that we all still remember, you fucking lunatic.
Lol. And just a straight up lie from sarc. Amazing.
Your alcoholic memory is wrong as usual.
While you were screaming with jeffmike about unmarked police vans I was saying how the crowd helps black block avoid detection. Seen from videos. Videos you refused to watch. Lol.
Going out night after night to help hide criminals acting on crimes is called aiding. If you're there night 5 of the riots, knowing a crime will be committed, and helping hide the perpetrator, you are committing a crime.
Unlike you who wants 20 year charges for committing no violence or damage for J6 protestors and even people not even at J6.
Such a pathological liar.
I refused to condemn everyone who showed up, and for that, to this day, he claims I defended the riots.
You don't seem to hold that same standard when it comes to Jan. 6.
Why is blowback mono-directional to you fucks?
And if we remove certain groups from studies in the U.S. to be similar to the racial makeup of Canada you will find the U.S. is doing as well or better than Canada
Eat a bullet.
First, the explanation is bullshit from AOC. The shooter was from a wealthy family and is doing well himself. He was never a client of United Health, and had his surgery covered. So, AOC was full of shit, as are you. The explanation better, is that he was a typical leftist, who was targeting CEO out of a twisted political motivations.
Yeah, the guy killed some totally unrelated guy for a supposed crime that he was never a victim of, while all the Democrats shout "Huzzah, justice".
"Burgoyne's tragic story has been making the rounds on the internet, but it's one of many examples of delayed care that ends up being a denial of care because the person passes away before doctors actually figure out what is wrong with them."
But it's free!
Well, Adam Burgoyne met his Saratoga here.
You must be really old to have learned that.
Yes, back when schools actually taught history and not 1619 shit with a rainbow pedo flag.
Ticonderoga!
Letting people die saves money!
And worth every penny.
FTC to sue Musk for false claims, SpaceX HQ isn't located on a Star making it in fact not a Starbase. As a nation rolls its eyes.
Still less ridiculous than a Politico fact check on Trump.
FTC also to demand that SpaceX divests parts of orbits, since holding an entire orbit creates a monopoly. Or something.
Nonsense!
If he identifies it as a star, it IS a star!
The saddest commentary is that someone like AOC even has a platform to espouse their vapid ideas.
Maybe she should have the platform so everyone can see how vapid she really is. Then we can endlessly mock her for being so vapid.
There are plenty of stupid people, she isn’t special.
True. Jeffy, Sarc, and Shrike are all stupid, but we do make fun of them.
I think she should be allowed to run an OnlyFans.
Lying Jeffy and shrike celebrate:
Joe Biden has given an executive grant of clemency to Shanlin Jim.
Shanlin Jin was arrested in January 2021. He pled guilty to possessing 47,000 child p0rnography images.
During Jin’s trial in Texas, an FBI special agent testified that his family was “connected to influential members of the Communist party in China”, according to court records.
Local police investigators reported that an IP address associated with Jin's residence was involved in sharing child p0rnography through a peer-to-peer network, including a video depicting the s3xual assault of an infant by an adult male.
Upon entering his home, they discovered child p0rnography displayed on Jin's computer, which contained videos involving “babies and toddlers”.
https://x.com/SarahisCensored/status/1867286972835696871
And somehow, Sarc will white knight either one of them for this. Why? Because the cops caught the guy, and we’re the bad guys for having decided that there should be rules and actually have principles.
That might explain why sarcjeff is so drunk today. He's celebrating the return of his babies and toddlers fix.
"..."This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but..."
You just managed to do exactly that, you slimy pile of shit.
Again showing how a "but" in such a sentence negates that which came before it.
'I'm all for the first amendment, but...'
No, you're not.
'This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that ppl interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an act of violence against them.'
Hey, AOC, guess what people interpret and feel and experience from confiscation of individual liberty and personal wealth. What should you expect us to do in response?
Also, he did not have a claim denied by UHC since he was never insured by them.
No, the reality is that because he was weak-minded he took left wing propaganda at face value and acted on it. The left wingers putting up wanted posters are similarly encouraging others to follow in his footsteps, which is exactly what AOC and E Warren are encouraging.
This dude is clearly Unabomber level lunatic. He was wealthy and had a successful back surgery. He wasn't denied coverage or medical treatment. He's at the age where a significant number of men slide into schizophrenia. He didn't pick Thompson for any personal or logical reasons. This has nothing to do with his "lived experience" or anybody else's. Son of Sam killed people because his neighbor's dog told him to. I'll bet a C note that this dude hears voices too.
And if he didn't hear voices before, he does now. On the advice of counsel.
No comment
That is probably the saddest thing about all of this - it wasn't even personal. His target could have been any number of people and his actual motive is disconnected from reason and reality.
Yet every moron with an opinion and a soapbox is acting like this was the equivalent of Luther nailing his 95 thesis to the door.
Which, at the time, Luther didn't consider it to be ground breaking. It was common practice at the time to nail theological debates to the cathedral door, and the selling of indulgences was already quite controversial. Also, many of the arguments Luther made had been made by Wycliffe and (shit drawing a blank, the Czech clergyman who was burned as a heretic after the Emperor had promised him protection). Luther just happened to have occurred in the correct time. Humanism and budding nationalism were becoming the norm in his days, and many of the Northern German states were growing disenchanted with the Holy Roman Empire, and especially the Hasburgs, so his reforms were more lasting than the former two's were.
Hus that was his name. Hate that when it happens. Oh, and Luther admitted he was influenced by Hus, less sonby Wycliffe but Hus was influenced by Wycliffe. As you can gather, I'm not a fan of the Great Man history hypothesis. I don't think great men influence history. I think, rather that the times create great men. Wycliffe and Hus were both condemned for many of the same ideas that Luther espoused, but because times had changed, Luther lived while his ideological/theological predecessors died as a result of their beliefs.
There is at least one key difference:
The unabomber developed his own theories which were largely driven to extremism by his own schizophrenia.
Luigi is acting on the left's manifesto which is extreme because presenting everything as apocalyptic is how they motivate their followers.
So I don't think the unabomber comparison is exact in that it hides responsibility for who radicalized the killer. But it is helpful in a different sense. How do we prevent the unabomber murders from recurring? We prevent the mentally ill from exposure to his or similar manifestos. How do we prevent Luigi's murders from recurring? We challenge the propaganda system which led to it.
To do this we need media and education systems which prioritize the truth instead of prioritizing extremist propaganda hoping to drive political action.
This is not to say that an assassination is justified, but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that people interpret and feel and experience the Congresswoman's speeches and votes as an act of violence against them.
'I do not know what "experience as violence" means'
Liz, you will never know until some grifting progressive tells you, in order to make a claim against you.
Just to make sure you know, crime is largely reduced under Biden's administration:
"Safeway to close San Francisco supermarket over rampant theft, safety concerns"
[...]
"The Safeway supermarket chain has announced that it will close down one of its key locations in San Francisco in February due to concerns that customers and employees were at risk from rampant theft and threats to their safety..."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/safeway-to-close-san-francisco-supermarket-over-rampant-theft-safety-concerns/ar-AA1vKo73?ocid=BingNewsSerp
If all the stores close, shoplifting will be reduced to nothing.
And, as SF found out with a flaming Soros-backed DA, legalizing shoplifting reduces the crime rate.
What more could you ask for? The Biden plan completely and permanently solved shoplifting in that store.
'"Not sure what it was, though, because once they made sure I wasn't dying I was thrown out into the waiting room and 6 hours later I said f*ck it and went home. Canadian health care, folks. Best in the world." He died the next day.'
Died from Canadian health care, or with Canadian health care?
To be pedantic, there's no such thing as "Canadian Health Care" as all the provinces run their own systems.
The Canadian government does provide some funding for health care to the provinces using money it steals from Alberta.
OK, died with health care in Canada, or from health care in Canada?
Yes.
So, among the beneficiaries of Biden's mass commutation yesterday?
Michael Conahan ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Conahan ), the judge who was sentenced to Federal prison for taking kickbacks to send kids to for-profit juvenile detention facilities.
A pattern starts to emerge…
The pattern of some shadow committee shoving their wish list of items under Biden's nose and having him sign it before he goes back to his nap?
'"N.Y.C. Grocery Prices Are High. Could City-Owned Stores Help?" asks an imbecilic New York Times headline from yesterday. Let me go ahead and save you a click: No, absolutely not. Do not even think about it. This is not the way.'
Liz, you simply do not understand progressive "economics". These stores will have "fair" i.e. below-market prices, set by politicians and community activists. And they will pay "living" wages, well above typical supermarket rates. And the result will be operating expenses many times revenue.
In the free world, that would doom the enterprise to quick failure. But in progressutopia, other money will magically appear in order to balance the books.
It's that Jackson orchard out back.
they will just tax the profitable stores to support their state owned stores.
Newsom just raised company taxes to cover California's missing monies. if a person can't account for missing money the last thing you do is give them more money
Ah yes, the grocery store unification plan.
This article is a total misrepresentation of AOC's position. In no way did AOC "justify violence." She specifically excluded violence: "This is not to say that an act of violence is justified ..."
Sarc or stupidity?
Or fifty cents.
Or just a left-wing symp with a crush on that ex-bartender.
But, (as she says)
And then she explains how people feel it's violence against them.
Violence against you allows for a violent response in the name of self-defense. She's making an excuse for those who may respond because of the violence they perceive.
Although a wrong assertion since Luigi was never covered by UHC and thus could never have been denied by them. She and the other lefties are trying to use this murder to get what they want politically which will encourage other left wingers to do the same.
And we're seeing left wingers come out of the woodworks to support that effort.
If Luigi was never covered by UHC, this lends more credence that this could actually be a hit of some kind. Why kill someone who couldn’t either approve or deny your issue?
Meanwhile, in a totally unrelated story, Nancy Pelosi was admitted to a hospital in…Luxembourg.
Does this mean Mr. Nancy is home alone again?
I guess as long as he isn’t hammered…
Nancy Pelosi and Nancy Mace come out of a room with one chair. Do you sniff the chair?
Am I allowed to be filled with Joy?
I'm pretty sure the CEO isn't approving or denying anyone's claims.
Why kill someone who couldn’t either approve or deny your issue?
He's acting in support of more abstract goals, political goals.
We are all inundated with left wing political hatred every day of our lives. Some people tune it out, but it seems he did not. When someone lashes out against the scapegoats of this propaganda and has no other basis for his actions it seems overwhelmingly likely he internalized their propaganda and acted on it. This is what both AOC and EW believe as proven by their comments linking his action to their political preferences which implicitly asserts his motivation.
I think they are correct their propaganda drove him to this. Where we differ is that I see it as disgusting and an indictment of their process while they see it as an affirmation.
Then just fucking say "murder is wrong" and don't try to tie it in to your pre-existing political positions.
Eat a bullet.
^+1
"I'm not saying it was justified, but it was justified through this dialectic I'm asserting here."
I’m not saying to vigilante shoot AOC (like BLM Hawk guy said after the Penny innocent verdict) BUT I would absolutely understand if someone shot AOC. She lives in the Bronx I hear. I don’t support that, but you can only push people so far before they find her and kill her.
"In another time and place, none of this would have happened to her," writes Louise Perry of the aforementioned stunt. "Phillips is driven by two very modern forces: the OnlyFans business model, which financially rewards this kind of shocking stunt, and the ideology of liberal feminism, which she has absorbed without a moment's thought."
No chance that Phillips made a rational choice according to her autonomous free agency? Or are women (again) too fragile to be in charge of themselves?
Do you understand that people with free will can also be influenced? And that not all influences are benign?
'Why would we ever want to disincentivize high-earners climbing their way up to the top, living in metropolitan centers, and generating enormous amounts of productivity for their industries (medicine, law, finance) and thus society?'
Maybe because many of them are flaming liberals who support higher taxes (and spending) but then seek to avoid paying.
Let's try increasing tax deductions based on voting records.
Only net tax payers can vote
And pay tax rates according to the candidates (and tax policies) they selected.
> Justifications of Violence
The moral justification of violence against your enemies will be sued as moral justifications for the retaliatory violence by your enemies back. I mean, duh.
It's as stupid as assuming Obama would always be in power forever and ever amen and expressing eschatological shock when Trump inherits those same powers.
Physical violence is only justified to counter physical violence. I don't give a shit if we're talking about multi-millionaire CEOs or multi-millionaire congress-bimbos.
Part of me thinks that this is the last gasp of social justice progressivism, a last flailing gasp directed at colleges and media to keep up the socialism because Lenin will be arriving by train any momemt. But another power of me thinks this is just another milestone in the race to the bottom that both sides are engaged in. I fear our only way out is the total collapse of civilization and the slow rebuilding from the rubble a century hence.
" I fear our only way out is the total collapse of civilization and the slow rebuilding from the rubble a century hence."
Dont make the marxists cream their pants, that was the plan all along
Are you one of the idiots saying it is wrong to hold government officials accountable to their abuses with the incoming administration?
'New Just Asking Questions on how trans issues have scrambled our politics (and how the left can recover)'
De-programming? Public confession? Suicide?
Anything but accept reality.
"...our privatized health care system..."
Privatized? When did that change happen?
Don't you know? The default state is government control of everything.
Including your privates.
“This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that ppl interpret and feel & experience denied claims as an act of violence...”
Oh, the cruel irony of Ashii Babbitt being shot in the throat, justified on the pretense of protecting this harridan who had already fled the building.
Careful now, you’ll summon Sarc’s defense of the cop who shot Babbitt.
It was just revealed he was disciplined in like 2003 for eating and drinking in a closet during his shift. He was supposed to be fired. Records were removed from J6 Committee files. No wonder sarc likes him.
I feel that being told that I will be fired if I don't take a covid shot is an act of violence against me.
I feel that forcing kids to take the shot is an act of violence.
I feel that shooting unarmed people is an act of violence.
I feel that throwing non violent protesters in jail for years is an act of violence.
The NAP has been violated by our betters so many times that I feel like all bets are off at this point. A libertarian publication might be inclined to bring this up.
being told you will (a) if not (b) presents a dilemma and choice, not violence what the fuck?
Suck my dick or you're fired.
Violation of the NAP?
depends if you like that kind of thing but also not real. walk away.
Not real? Are you Sarcasmic?
Depends on if you have enough cash to make it until the lawsuit settles and the prick can afford the payout.
MUH PRIVUT KUMPNY!
If the media applied the same standard to Democrats that they apply to Republicans, Democrats would have a tough time winning national elections and Libertarians or another 3rd party might be able to garner enough support to be taken seriously.
True, but they won’t as they’re partisan hacks who promote one party at the expense of the others.
Liz, why are you weighing on the sex stunt before our tech and sex reporter? Is she limbering up for the contortions she's gonna have to do to describe this as empowering?
I’d love to hook Good Liz up to a lie detector and ask her her opinion of ENB.
The objection to SALT deductions is that it shields high tax states and localities from the competitive consequences of those tax policies. The desrability for everyone else for having the high earning elites in high tax metropolitan areas is...what exactly?
Exactly, this is a terrible idea.
Liz lives in NYC and has some personal interest in SALT deductions, but suggesting that the federal tax code should be used to socially engineer the economic desirability to live in NYC, SF and LA is a strange argument from a free market perspective.
Too lazy to look up blue state tax rates, but how much income would you need to have over $10,000 in state taxes?
Talk about tax breaks for only the ultra-rich - - - - - - - - - -
The progressive justifies violence in the face of things like health care claim denial because they ignore the problem of scarcity in their rhetoric in order to demonize private enterprise. Once they have put the government in charge of providing health care, this rhetorical trick goes away until the government system needs more funding, but violence against that system will be considered a great evil.
The most pitiable thing about the Lily Philips stunt is the interview after where she tears up and admits that it is not an experience she would recommend.
Look, it's like running a marathon. It's hard on the body. Athletes tear ACLs, sex workers tear cervixes.
Those parts were not meant to be used in that fashion. It’s going to dry up and tear on her, and might not really be useable again if it scars badly.
If she limits everyone to a single thrust she could get that number up to 10k.
But, does it count if they don’t come?
Did she get verification that all 100 did? No. And there is no way all 100 did. It was probably something like 80 and 20 halves.
Allegedly, she's going for 300 on the 15th and working her way up to 1,000.
How big of a fucking loser does a guy have to be to even want to be a part of that?
In medical school we had patient volunteers (paid well) for all the standard exams (full physical, breast exam, abdominal focused, pelvic, etc).
On pelvic exam day, we all lined up, stood there quietly, awkwardly, and were assigned to one of 10 patients. The one lady was an actually pretty hot local stripper (and rumor had it, a pay for play one).
So in that line, a good 20 of us stood awkwardly waiting to shove a speculum into this sex worker. Id imagine it felt eerily similar to that experience.
You sure as heck would want to be first.
How little does she think of herself to do something she clearly did not like again...only more.
Her hope for a future is over. No self-respecting man would CONTEMPLATE dating her. Seems kinda sad, honestly.
Who knows, maybe she'll find some gay-for-pay dude who took it in the ass from 100 dudes one day and they'll live happily ever after.
I had to Google that name. Half the links say 100, the other half say 101.
And this is why I disagree with ENB that sex work should be destigmatized. She should feel shame at devaluing herself in this way, and people should be disgusted at the decisions she made.
She should absolutely be allowed, and if men want to pay to watch or participate in this, they should be allowed. But it’s not something to be proud of. It’s not something the family should be sharing around with pride. “Look at our baby girl having a train run on her! Proudest day of my life.” We’re proud of graduations or getting promoted, not cheapening yourself.
Do it if you want, but you also accept the consequences of it.
>>"This collective American experience, which is so twisted to have in the wealthiest nation in the world, all of that pain that people are experiencing is being concentrated on this event," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
shut up and make with my Manhattan.
The only good thing about AOC is that amateur dance video she made where she was shaking her tits around. That is all
it was a good day yes.
Now is the time for a blitz through the institutions. The Left is exhausted. BLM is shattered. Trans is imploding. Trump has a mandate to abolish DEI, defund left-wing racialism, and restore public authority over the public institutions. The counterrevolution starts now.
Rufo is right. Strike while the iron is hot and the twits are on the run.
it really couldn't be a better time.
A big part of Kamala losing was independent/normies being fed up with the massive shift of the overton window the left pulled off post Floyd/COVID.
They truly have a mandate, they should dismantle everything the left has put in place over the last decade
The danger now comes from the GOPe, and there are plenty of those weasels still in the senate and congress.
>>I want to consider the possibility that Phillips' stunt is more intelligible understood not in terms of liberal feminism or the sexual revolution or whatever
pretty easily understood as performance art idk if it has to go deeper.
I’m surprised so many men actually were willing to go deeper into this girl.
Balls deep in a sticky situation.
>>collective entities arising from (or perhaps perceived by) multiple human consciousnesses
every once in awhile a phish show will do this.
>>"In another time and place, none of this would have happened to her," writes Louise Perry of the aforementioned stunt.
I don't mean to be crass but gangbangs were on vhs.
And it "happened to her" the same way that vodka shots "happened" to me the other night.
ya that came off like the teenager's mom believing her child was tricked into the hijinks
> "This is not to say that an act of violence is justified, but I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled, they need to understand that ppl interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an act of violence against them..."
Tell me you've never been punched in the face or kicked in the cooter without telling me you've never been.
"This collective American experience, which is so twisted to have in the wealthiest nation in the world, all of that pain that people are experiencing is being concentrated on this event," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.)"
Demonstrating once again what a dumb cunt AOC is.
I bet she's never considered that maybe the US is the richest country because it doesn't think (traditionally at least) of wealth as a fixed thing to be divided up equitably, but as something that people earn through hard work and innovation.
Leftard Self-Projection 101.
"our privatized health care system"
Sorry AOC. You Democrats have destroyed our privatized health care and you F'En know it. The only one you have to blame is yourself and your like minded socialists.
“…all of that pain that people are experiencing is being concentrated on this event," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.)
NOW DO DAN PENNY!! The Marxist Left celebrates Luigi 1st degree murdering for their ideology, but condemns Dan Penny defending the defenseless.
When they come for Trump, and when they come for Kyle Rittenhouse, J6’s and Dan Penny, and skip Trump hurricane victims, they literally ARE COMING FOR YOU AND ME.
The Left justifies violence, except for Dan Penny. They are liars and hypocrites, so fuck what they say.
Violence to make political change is DOMESTIC TERRORISM and it’s the Marxists USA who promote it under the guise of “Equity” “DEI” & “BLM”. They are merely memes for mMarxist to hide behind.
If Mangione was a laid off employee who shot a Mexican CEO for outsourcing his job, the left wouldn’t be waxing poetics about empathy and lived experiences.
The hypocrisy is just nauseating. If violence befalls one of their own, they hold the other side collectively responsible and demand nothing short of unconditional repudiation. If the situation was reversed, they hem and haw about context and circumstances.
These people lectured the entire country on violent rhetoric for better part of a decade. They thought Trump saying “Kung flu” led to a wave of anti Asian violence. Do they Chastise their own for calling for his freedom and copycat acts?
Beyond embarrassment. They’re 200% the reason why Trump won. Trump not have won in 2000.
AOC is luring psychos to harm her. THis is how it works.She is validating their rationalizations for the violence they presently commit. When she steps outside their acceptable behavior she will be a target. That is the pscho logic she is encouraging.
It deplore all such violence but I can see that she is making herself a target by such stupid talk.