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Elizabeth Warren, CEO-Assassin Cheerleader

Plus: Trans health care debate, the new space race, French putting pressure on Israel, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 12.12.2024 9:30 AM

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"People can only be pushed so far," sitting Senator Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) told HuffPost on Tuesday, in response to the killing of United HealthCare CEO Brian Thompson on the streets of Midtown Manhattan.

"The visceral response from people across this country who feel cheated, ripped off, and threatened by the vile practices of their insurance companies should be a warning to everyone in the health care system," said Warren. "Violence is never the answer, but people can be pushed only so far," she added.

Violence is never the answer, BUT is always a strange sentence construction. Generally when you add but it seems like you're justifying whatever preceded it. Boilerplate condemnation rings a little hollow when you throw that little three-letter word in after. "This is a warning that if you push people hard enough, they lose faith in the ability of their government to make change, lose faith in the ability of the people who are providing the health care to make change, and start to take matters into their own hands in ways that will ultimately be a threat to everyone."

A firestorm followed. Yesterday, Warren went back to the media and clarified: "Violence is never the answer. Period." And "I should have been much clearer that there is never a justification for murder."

Other Democrats, like Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, managed to get it right, saying: "In America, we do not kill people in cold blood to express policy differences or a viewpoint."

One thing this whole discourse has really missed is that the killer, Luigi Mangione, appears to have come from a rich family seemingly with both health care and, ostensibly, the means to handle his medical costs. He appears to have had a successful operation on his back—a spinal fusion which cured his debilitating pain. He's not some man of the people, some folk hero who was slighted by the medical system—or if he was, he didn't mention that in his manifesto or anywhere in his hefty digital footprint, including lots of Reddit messages on his experience with spinal surgery. And even if he were, killing a CEO is evidence that you're clinically insane with very little to teach the rest of us. For Warren to act like this is warranted or understandable behavior is heinous. Mangione wasn't "pushed so far" by an unfair system; he appears to have been the recipient of a difficult-to-perform and relatively new surgery that helped to cure his pain, the likes of which we only have access to in health care systems that prize medical innovation through profit motive.

Defense bill passes: Yesterday, the House passed an $895 billion defense policy bill despite major opposition from Democrats. Of course, it wasn't the high price tag that created the controversy: It was a culture war over transitions for minors.

"The hang up in the bill—which took months of negotiations between parties—centers on a provision that would prohibit the military's Tricare health system from covering gender dysphoria treatments 'that could result in sterilization' for children under 18," reports Politico. I wonder, first, how many service members using the health care system have transgender minor children. I wonder, second, why advocacy groups continue to portray gender dysphoria treatments as life-saving and medically necessary when evidence keeps emerging that challenges these commonly touted activist lines. But negotiations were repeatedly derailed by this cluster of issues.

From Politico: 

Negotiators dropped the most hotly contested provisions, such as proposals to roll back the Pentagon's policy to reimburse costs for troops who travel to obtain abortions, bar the Defense Department from providing gender affirming care for transgender troops and gutting the agency's diversity, equity and inclusion efforts.

The bill now heads to the Senate.


Scenes from New York: Within New York, "there is an emerging push for the state to recognize cannabis's sacramental use so that members of ritualistic cultures like Rastafarianism can grow and sell it in accordance with their beliefs," reports The New York Times. Some Rastafarians "want sacramental use defined in the law, licenses to cultivate and dispense cannabis set aside specifically for religious communities, and other changes that allow them to sell and consume cannabis during ceremonies."


QUICK HITS

  • "Collectively, China and Russia are now pooling their expertise to develop the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS). Both nations worked on a joint roadmap targeting operational capabilities by the 2030s, with plans for modular habitats, robotic rovers, and in-situ resource utilization," writes Ryan McEntush for Pirate Wires. "China's Tiangong Space Station, launched in 2021, serves as a blueprint for sustainable space operations, while Russia's Luna program contributes decades of experience. Together, they are challenging Western-led space governance. While Sino-Russian efforts remain scientific today, it is crucial to understand that these missions are likely precursors to more assertive territorial ambitions. Antarctica provides a telling parallel." (Read on for a description of what the "tobacco of space" could be.)
  • "All coups are different, but they're all the same, because all of them depend on taking hold, not of the nation, but simply of the repressive machinery of the state," Pentagon consultant/Bolivian cattle rancher/coup expert Edward Luttwak tells Statecraft's Santi Ruiz. "So I wrote a description of how to do that. My first words are 'Overthrowing governments is not easy,' and I tell you how to do it step by step."
  • "France on Wednesday called on Israel to respect the 'sovereignty and territorial integrity' of neighboring Syria and to withdraw its forces from the Golan demilitarized zone between the two countries," reports Politico. "'As stated by the U.N., any military deployment in the buffer zone between Israel and Syria is a violation of the 1974 disengagement agreement which must be respected by its signatories, Israel and Syria,' said a French foreign ministry spokesman at a press briefing. 'France calls on Israel to withdraw from this area.'"
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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    People can only be pushed so far...

    So she's pushing for J6 clemency.

    1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 year ago

      No, she's pushing to be justly assassinated by constituents who have been pushed too far. And she'd welcome it as MAID America Great Assassinations.

      1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

        I thought Fauxcahontas already assassinated her own presidential hopes by being dumber than Shrike.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

          Didn't seem to keep Harris from running.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            For the DNC establishment state, feature not bug.

        2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

          dumber than Shrike.

          I've heard of low bars, but goddam...

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            What did Einstein say about stupidity?

    2. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      Next time, the people who show up on J6 will come with more than zip ties and toy viking helmets, LizzieW. Glad you gave them a green light, as no one has committed malpractice to the people they owe service to than politicians, and hey, people are fed up

      1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

        This^.

        My take from the media is it is AOK to kill people when you "feel" fucked over.

        1. Bananas   1 year ago

          Murder = OK
          Going to court = Insurrection

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Correction: murdering capitalists and taking conservatives to court OK; martyring POCs and persecuting progressive activists not OK.

          2. CE   1 year ago

            Trespassing on public property to protest for election integrity = an insurrectionist assault on democracy, punishable by summary execution on the spot

      2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

        There's a photo of Warren actively cheering on one of the protests that shutdown the Senate office building.

        First, she addressed the crowds at a rally outside. Then the crowds swarmed the Hart Senate Office Building and occupied the atrium and other areas. Hundreds were arrested, included some "celebrities". All charges were later dropped.

        This is largely memory holed, and trying to find the image anywhere is tough, but I've kept this link, and the image is a tad easier to find if yoou include the photog's name and service...

        senator elizabeth warren cheers on demonstrators jonathan ernst reuters

        https://www.businessinsider.com/women-protest-trump-family-separation-us-senate-building-2018-6?op=1#sen-elizabeth-warren-of-massachusetts-also-cheered-on-demonstrators-from-above-8

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Oh those whacky gals!

          BTW, I bet similar events (and documentation) will soon be much more common and easier to find.

      3. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

        Don't be letting the media off in that malpractice to the people charge. According to Lizzie's logic a lot of the media can be justifiably murdered.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Well, at least the media owners and CEOs.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/12/12/the-deranged-lusting-after-the-hot-assassin/

      The widespread fawning over Luigi Mangione, the man charged with the murder of US healthcare boss Brian Thompson, is as bizarre as it is nauseating. You would have thought that we were beyond victim-blaming by now. But no, a consensus has emerged from ‘progressives’ that Thompson ‘had it coming’, and that his alleged killer can be excused for his apparently good motives. Worse still, he can even be indulged on account of his good looks.

      Some have sought to dress up their fawning as politically motivated. The former Washington Post reporter Taylor Lorenz seemingly spoke for many when she said her initial reaction to Thompson’s death was one of ‘joy’. Arwa Mahdawi of the Guardian spoke of Thompson as ‘the face of an unfair system.’

      Yet many of a similar persuasion have been less guarded in their response. There has been the usual moronic inferno from ‘influencers’, this time with their bovine effusions on this ‘hot felon’, ‘our king’ or the ‘Vigilante Daddy’. ‘How tall is he? Asking for the women on the internet’, wrote one on Instagram. ‘It’s giving 2025 People Magazine Sexiest Man of the Year’, wrote another. The Daily Mail today carried an unfortunate headline: ‘It may seem bizarre, but many women (including me) are captivated by the “hot assassin”.’ In the article, the writer waxes lyrical about this ‘handsome, Ivy League-educated’ man with ‘a rippling six pack’. ‘Souvenir’ merchandise is already for sale, including mugs, t-shirts, hoodies and bags proclaiming Mangione a hero. Products have been decorated with the slogan, ‘Mama, I’m in love with a criminal’.

      1. Kungpowderfinger   1 year ago

        “The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power.” - Malcom X

        1. Bananas   1 year ago

          Malcolm X preached for black people to take care of themselves and not beg whites for handouts. He'd be considered alt right now.
          And MLK would be considered an Uncle Tom today by the left.

          1. Kungpowderfinger   1 year ago

            Malcolm X preached for black people to take care of themselves and not beg whites for handouts.

            I suspect much of the black community would agree.

            The Democrats, however…

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            And King family members who supported Trump just prove that the Rev was not really black.

            1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

              ...and the first I heard of this was just now, in the H&R comment section.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        "The former Washington Post reporter Taylor Lorenz seemingly spoke for many when she said her initial reaction to Thompson’s death was one of ‘joy’."

        Aha! That's what the Democrats mean by "joy". Too bad Harris lost, and we don't get to experience an entire regime of joy.

      3. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

        Worse still, he can even be indulged on account of his good looks.

        For certain levels of male hotness, women just immediately revert to primal default settings.

      4. CE   1 year ago

        Lorenz's reaction was much worse than joy. She identified the next target, with a birth date and a missing death date.

      5. Zipcreature   1 year ago

        Don’t worry, the Females who find this ideologically motivated domestic terrorist attractive, aren’t females of value to anyone desiring a good family partner.

        Literally not a loss.

    4. Kungpowderfinger   1 year ago

      A firestorm followed. Yesterday, Warren went back to the media and clarified: "Violence is never the answer. Period." And "I should have been much clearer that there is never a justification for murder."

      As if a leftist like White Squaw would ever bury the hatchet.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        In your back?

      2. Minadin   1 year ago

        She'd bury it in someone's back if it suited her agenda, clearly.

      3. Super Scary   1 year ago

        "bury the hatchet."

        She calls those tomahawks.

    5. Quo Usque Tandem   1 year ago

      “But….” Liawatha is on the warpath

      .

    6. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   1 year ago

      The red skinned devil seeks with a forked toung

    7. Minadin   1 year ago

      If Elizabeth Warren had any sense of shame whatsoever, she would have crawled into a deep dark hole and died, several decades ago.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Shame, like math and logic, is a characteristic of white privilege culture, and not accessible to progressives.

    8. CE   1 year ago

      Anti-capitalist Ivy League grads from wealthy families, with good jobs and good health insurance plans, can only be pushed so far before they murder someone? It's sickening how many people are cheering on someone for shooting somebody in the back on a public street.

      I think Josh Shapiro got it right (for once): the Luigi guy isn't a hero, the McDonald's employee who turned him in is the hero.

  2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

    Judge strikes down processes making it harder for the president to remove administrative judges.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/judge-strikes-part-federal-law-making-it-easier-remove-powerful-judges

    1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

      In case you dont follow the lies of ACA, Congress has been extending expansive enhanced subsidies, the ones promised to be removed almost a decade ago. Costing billions of dollars.

      https://thefederalist.com/2024/12/12/congressional-budget-office-admits-obamacare-zombie-enrollees-waste-billions-of-taxpayer-dollars/

      CBO also admits people are only enrolling because government automatically rolls over zero cost plans due to these subsidies.

      That wording suggests many people are enrolled in Exchange coverage only because it’s “free” and because the federal government keeps re-upping their enrollment automatically. But if the enhanced subsidies expire, which means individuals would have to pay at least 2 percent of income for “benchmark” health insurance in the Exchanges, millions will cancel their plans.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    In America, we do not kill people in cold blood to express policy differences or a viewpoint.

    We do throw them in jail with excessive sentences in cold blood to express a viewpoint.

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      Or mute them.

      1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

        Is Sarc aware?

        1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

          Boy howdy, is he ever.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            And joyful.

    2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

      Does not include Epstein in that statement.

    3. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

      In America, we do not kill people in cold blood to express policy differences or a viewpoint.

      Yes we do.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Hillary, is that you?

        1. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

          I will not abide these unfounded allegations from a Russian asset.
          *Cackle Cackle Cackle*

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Now, don't sploosh your pantsuit.

      2. Bananas   1 year ago

        Now who's being naive Kay?

        1. middlefinger   1 year ago

          Best line in a film ever

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

            “This will sting a little, but it’s for your own growth, brah.”

            Point Break.

    4. Ron   1 year ago

      its okay to punch them though, isnt that what they were saying about Trump supporters since if you support Trump you are a Nazi therefore its ok to punch them

    5. Eeyore   1 year ago

      Or debank them.

      1. Zipcreature   1 year ago

        Of skip them for hurricane relief.

    6. Zipcreature   1 year ago

      “ In America, we (CONSERVATIVES) do not kill people in cold blood to express policy differences or a viewpoint (Leftists do).”
      FTFY

  4. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    It was a culture war over transitions for minors.

    Look, I'm all for keeping their grubby hands off the kids, but wasn't this a defense bill?

    1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

      I wonder, first, how many service members using the health care system have transgender minor children.

      TOO MANY. Unless it's zero. Then it's just the right amount.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        What if it's zero that identifies as some other integer because numbers are really more of a spectrum? Betcha didn't think of that when it comes to how much the tax payers should be shoveling out to provide healthcare for a standing army's relatives, didja smart guy?

    2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

      The medical spending for soldiers is part of the defense bill. This clause was centered around that money. It only applies to military healthcare.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Why does the MIC get stuck planning to fight the last culture war?

      1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

        Because few envision the next war as being anything different than the previous war. The Billy Mitchells and Heinz Guderians looking at the next war are fairly far and few in between. Most of the midwits learn while fighting the war.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Yeah, but who are the visionaries pushing us to prepare for the next culture war?

    4. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      It's probably the only thing in the whole bill that actually defends an American.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Some Rastafarians "want sacramental use defined in the law, licenses to cultivate and dispense cannabis set aside specifically for religious communities...

    A recruitment tool for stoners.

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

      “These are not hash brownies!”

      1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

        "We are simple Dutch bakery. Put your clothes back on white boy."

        1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

          "Scusi, mi scusi"

          and also

          "Scotty doesn't know!"

          1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

            “This isn’t where I parked my car!”

            1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

              "Flüggåɘnk∂€čhiœßøl∫ên."

  6. Jerry B.   1 year ago

    "France on Wednesday called on Israel to respect the 'sovereignty and territorial integrity' of neighboring Syria and to withdraw its forces from the Golan demilitarized zone between the two countries,"

    Has France asked the current government of Syria how they feel about this?

    1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      Only France would ignore the military maxim 'take the high ground'.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Surrendering in the valley avoids all the wasted effort hiking up hill.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

      Yeah, the Syria that signed that agreement no longer exists.

    3. Moonrocks   1 year ago

      I haven't read the press statement, but I'm sure France similarly calls on Turkey to withdraw from Syria. I mean, how can it not?

      1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

        Or, better yet, the Islamic terrorists that just invaded?

  7. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Collectively, China and Russia are now pooling their expertise to develop the International Lunar Research Station (ILRS).

    Trump needs to nuke the moon before they can set commie foot one on that thing.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

      ...it is crucial to understand that these missions are likely precursors to more assertive territorial ambitions.

      At the very least get up there first and write MAGA in a font large enough to be seen from Earth with the naked eye (eclipse style).

      1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

        Build a yuge trump tower and casino that can be seen from earth!

        1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

          Golf course. Definitely a golf course.

          1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

            With the low gravity, the drives would be epic.

            1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

              I wonder if a ball could achieve orbit?

              1. Zeb   1 year ago

                Would have to be moving well over 1000 m/s I think. A rifle bullet could probably go into orbit around the moon, though.

                1. jimc5499   1 year ago

                  There was a Sci-Fi story several years ago. There were bases on the Moon. Depending on which Base you were at an alarm sounded twice a day. When the alarm sounded you moved to a shelter. The reason for the alarm was that the U.S. and the Soviets had fought a war for the Moon. The bullets that were fired and missed orbited the Moon in a swarm at low levels. The alarm was to let you know that they were near.

                  1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

                    So, kinda like Chicago?

                  2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

                    What a cool sci-fi concept.

                  3. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

                    I would think the simple solution is to put up some version of large boards in a bunch of areas so the bullets would hit them and fall, so they are no longer in very low orbit on the surface of the moon.

                    1. CE   1 year ago

                      In the Midwest they use traffic signs for that.

            2. Ajsloss   1 year ago

              Good luck getting out of those sand traps.

              1. CE   1 year ago

                At least there are no water hazards.

          2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

            I thought it already was a golf course thanks to Alan Shepard on Apollo 14?

        2. shadydave   1 year ago

          If he thought he could pull it off, that's definitely something Trump would do.

        3. markm23   1 year ago

          It would be difficult to make a profit when tickets cost millions per person, not only the customers but for every employee.

    2. Randy Sax   1 year ago

      "They're ghosts, commie ghosts what don't know they're dead. Hoping to steal our rockets so they can fly up and paint the moon pink and draw a Lenin face on it."

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

        You ain't just barking

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      Why not make it the 51st state and put Trudeau in charge?

      1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

        Governor Justin can't handle the state he's got.

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

          What state? I thought that Canada wasn’t a real country anyway. Or at least that what South Park told me.

          1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

            The only people who think Canada is a real country are Ontarians.

            Weirdly enough, Canadian nationalism is pushed by the federal government and is largely celebrated by the left-wing.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              For dedicated leftists, nationalism is just a phase (and sometimes useful tactic) on the path to globalism.

            2. Zipcreature   1 year ago

              As is succession bc of post-modern oppression-oppressor dynamics.

              They inconsistently apply this when it comes to our of history in the USA (bc Muh RaCiSm)

          2. damikesc   1 year ago

            Not too many countries got their freedom because their imperial owner just stopped giving enough of a shit to keep them any longer.

            1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

              Up until the 80's most Canadians considered themselves more as British North America than anything else.

              Weirdly enough it was Justin's "father" Pierre (also a communist) who really started pushing Canadian nationalism and a Canadian identity. That's why I said Canadian nationalism is pushed by the federal government and is largely celebrated by the left-wing.
              It's a civic nationalism like in the US, but it's not organic.

              1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

                “Hey, that’s my wife!”

                “OUR wife, comrade.”

                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

                  Wife (with a big smile): "Honey, don't be such a capitalist."

            2. CE   1 year ago

              We fought a war against those Limeys for 6 years, and then another war for 3 years 31 years later. Turns out we could have just waited them out.

    4. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

      Without the moon would there be hurricanes? 4-D chess ftw.

  8. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

    Wanted posters of healthcare CEOs are starting to pop up in NYC

    The posters say "HEALTH CARE CEOS SHOULD NOT FEEL SAFE" and include the words "DENY," "DEFEND," and "DEPOSE." These are the same words that were on the bullets Mangione used to kill Thompson.

    The Democrats and progressives in America have become radically violent, running over people with Trump signs and killing people for wearing MAGA hats, but who was the FBI targeting as potential trouble? Catholics who attend Latin Mass, Parents at school boards, US gymnasts, Pro-lifers, Illegal FISA query subjects, People who bought The Bible, and Bank of America accountholders.

    1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

      Queue shrike using the false narrative right wing violence numbers from the DoJ that include even minority drug dealers as right wing.

      1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

        When you press him for an example, he'll bring up a tranny shooter and when you ask him how they are conservative he'll yell something about Bush.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

          Act Blue donors.

    2. Marshal   1 year ago

      When left wingers intentionally support violence hoping their most extreme and perhaps mentally ill members act on their demagoguery is it a conspiracy theory or activism?

      Compare these events to how the left responded to the militia movement. Then they had no problem recognizing that leadership was trying to trigger others to engage in violence while keeping their own hands clean, so they understand the process. We're watching it in real time.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      I say, people of New York, keep it up. See if you can convince more businesses and industries to leave the city. I hope you achieve your progressive paradise in my lifetime, so I can go out laughing.

    4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

      Clearly, they are utilizing my 3 Ds of Marxist arguments - Dissemble, Deflect, Distract - to marginalize my "3 Ds of Marxist arguments" argument.

    5. CE   1 year ago

      Well to be fair, your judgment is plenty suspect if you open a Bank of America account.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    All coups are different, but they're all the same, because all of them depend on taking hold, not of the nation, but simply of the repressive machinery of the state...

    So in other words, after you coup you can't just gaslight "joy" on the populace and think it will hold.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    France calls on Israel to withdraw from this area.

    The Frogs have some spare white flags Israel can borrow.

  11. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

    Luigi Mangione, appears to have come from a rich family

    Nothing appears about it.

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

      Meanwhile his victim's mom worked as a beautician and his dad at a grain elevator in an Iowa town of 1200.

      The story of progressivism is always wealthy scions who were radicalized in university hunting down the kulaks.

      1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

        Yup. This dude never faced an ounce of hardship in his spoiled life, and the second he had a single set back (back pain from surfing accident, you cant make this trust fund shit up), he got fully radicalized by tankie commies online to murder someone.

        Hasan Piker would be proud

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Karl Marx, too.

        2. rbike   1 year ago

          Let's hope Liz doesn't suffer a back injury

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        The best part is that he got turned in by a noble proletarian McDonald's worker. No mercy to the bourgeoisie in the class war.

        1. middlefinger   1 year ago

          Now the progs are targeting that worker and McDonalds.

          1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   1 year ago

            Really? Do you have a source?
            I believe they would do it, but is there a credible source?

            1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

              Twitchy has images of the fake reviews being used against that McDonalds.

              https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/12/10/bad-reviews-for-altoona-mcdonalds-where-ceo-killer-was-caught-n2404954

            2. middlefinger   1 year ago

              https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/too-hot-to-convict-netizens-declare-love-for-luigi-mangione-threaten-worker-who-turned-him-in-call-for-mcdonalds-boycott-after-accused-shooters-arrest/

              Some Reddit progs threaten worker then boycott McDonalds ,thread taken down

          2. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

            Odds that one of the prog activists will be mistaken for Grimace?

        2. Zipcreature   1 year ago

          Kamala Harris, back at work at her old job, which she definitely100% lied to us about, along with the Marxist Leftwing Media?

    2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

      What’s interesting is how connected the Mangione family is to political families in Maryland. Apparently they’re well connected with the D’Alesandros, two of whom have been mayor of Baltimore. It also happens to be Nancy Pelosi’s maiden name. Yes, that’s her father and brother.

      Also, rather suspicious, is that the UHC CEO was set to testify in front of a grand jury on insider trading. Allegedly, the subject was one Nancy Pelosi.

      1. VinniUSMC (Banana Republic Day 5/30/24)   1 year ago

        Pelosi, insider trading? What? No way, never. She got rich fair and square, by hardly working. I mean, hard work. Totally on the up and up. For sure.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          You forgot working for the People.

      2. Ron   1 year ago

        interesting I often wondered if there was more to this than just evil insurance, insurance was just a deflection from the real crime.

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

          Killing the CEO because your back is a bit screwed up doesn’t make sense when the family you belong to is ridiculously rich and can easily afford any treatments.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            No, but once you embrace victim culture, you have to abandon all legacy of privilege (at least in your head), and find your personal oppressor.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            He was taking psychedelics and they apparently fried his brain.

            1. Eeyore   1 year ago

              That is just the angle they will take to plead not guilty.

            2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

              Bullshit. This was organized, planned, and executed. It wasn’t a random explosion of violence from a non functioning brain. This was the end point of embarking on an ideological crusade. Even John Hinckley wasn’t properly what I’d describe as non-functioning, but that was a guy who completely lacked impulse control, and jumped out of a crowd because he wanted to be caught.

              This guy was rational and thought about what he was doing. The fact that many people are justifying him is evidence that he’s just acting in accordance with an ideology in which murder is acceptable if you pick the right targets.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

                The next question is if a more organized group recruited Mangione, and orchestrated the whole thing.

                1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

                  I don't get the people who think this was some kind of fed op, if that's what you implying. HealthCare CEOs aren't generally enemies of the "system," and none of the angles people imply make any sense.

                  The truth is you don't really need to be trained to carry out a murder like this. If you really want to kill someone and don't care about getting caught, you're going to be successful 90% of the time. Society functions through a mutual trust that we don't simply kill people we've never met. If someone randomly casually walked into my favorite burrito place, open carrying, then drew down on the cook (don't know why you would, the burritos are fantastic), they'd be able to mag dump and walk out before anyone has time to react. Now, since I'm in gun country, his odds of making it back into his vehicle are pretty questionable, but he'd be out the door before anyone successfully responded to the threat.

                  I don't worry about stuff like that happening, though, because we live in a world where randomly targeted murders are not the norm. If we change the conditions such that there are "acceptable targets," as many leftists seem to be doing, then the entire structure of society quickly breaks.

                  1. mad.casual   1 year ago

                    While I don't disagree with the general sentiment (I used to work a job where, for whatever reason, it frequently occurred to me that if someone ran in the front door with an axe killing people The Crazies-style, the axe would be in my back before I would have a chance to get my hands up.), you say "If we change the conditions..." in response to pretty open calls to change the conditions after a rather spontaneous 'two weeks' of "We have changed the conditions, pray we do not change them any further..."

                  2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

                    Sure, it's possible that Mangione surfed along on his path to violent insanity, Ted Kaczynski style. But it's also possible that he talked crap with other noble resistance fighters (with or without some fed operatives) and picked up some critical inspiration. In our modern times we have too many episodes of actual conspiracies to simply say "that never happens".

                    Note: that doesn't mean Star Chamber type scenarios, just local revolutionary freedom fighter clubs.

                2. mad.casual   1 year ago

                  He said he worked alone. Are you saying you don't trust the guy who shot a stranger in the back three times not to lie?

            3. Super Scary   1 year ago

              Sounds like a case of affluenza to me.

      3. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

        Ahhh, the plot thickens.

      4. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        Damn so my speculation that this was either an Antifa trust brat going off or a targeted hit might BOTH be true?

        1. middlefinger   1 year ago

          Old money meets old mafia

          1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

            For some reason, this gives me Michael Corleone and Sollozzo vibes at the scene where they’re at the restaurant.

            1. middlefinger   1 year ago

              Agreed. Proving yourself for the family healthcare biz? I believe, Nursing homes.

      5. Super Scary   1 year ago

        "is that the UHC CEO was set to testify in front of a grand jury on insider trading. Allegedly, the subject was one Nancy Pelosi."

        This is the first I am hearing about this so I looked it up. According to Politifact, that's not true; which of course leads me to believe it's true. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/dec/10/social-media/no-proof-unitedhealthcare-ceo-was-set-to-testify-a/

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

          Yeah, it’s all over X right now. And I agree that if Politifact claims one thing, believe the other until proven otherwise. Politifact lies to protect Democrats.

        2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

          But there’s no proof that Thompson was scheduled to testify against Pelosi. The representative is not being investigated for insider trading, based on searches of news reports, the Nexis news database and court records.

          Um, did Politifact manage to confirm that he was scheduled to testify about insider trading, just not specifically against Nancy? Why else would they word it that way. Fucking shitweasels.

          1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

            Nobody in Congress ever gets punished for insider trading. Congress always investigates itself and finds that nobody was at fault. Let's not even pretend anyone in Congress is afraid of being busted for it, they all do it and the system is designed to let them get away with it.

          2. mad.casual   1 year ago

            I would LOL to my grave if Politifact or some other fact checker inadvertently outed someone.

            "Thompson was set to testify against someone identified as 'C. Pelosi'. Clearly, not Nancy."

          3. CE   1 year ago

            The CEO was being sued (not prosecuted) for insider trading (by investors in his company), since he unloaded a bunch of shares without disclosing that UNH was the target of anti-trust regulators. That's where the conspiracy theories are coming from.

      6. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

        The family is very connected but the ones I've known are on the R side. One being a county executive. But very much doubt this connection.

        1. CE   1 year ago

          His cousin (Nino Mangione) is a Republican in the Maryland state legislature.

    3. middlefinger   1 year ago

      He appears to come from one of the five families.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Elon Musk just became the world's first person to reach $400 billion in net worth.

    Let the coping and/or seething similarly rise.

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

      I saw a Youtube video yesterday by an angry Dem claiming that Musk just stole other people's work, and also that he was going broke.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Like most progressives, they learned economics from Disney cartoons with Scrooge McDuck.

    2. Randy Sax   1 year ago

      Elon Musk just became the world's first person to reach $400 billion in net worth.

      Maybe "officially", but the real richest people in the world, they hide their names, they hide their money. You don't know who they are. (with some expectations, Putin for example)

      1. mtrueman   1 year ago

        A good deal of Musk's fortune came from government military and intelligence gathering contracts. It's probably not so easy to hide.

    3. mad.casual   1 year ago

      He would've gotten there quicker if he'd listened to mtrueman, sarc, and jeff's suggestions on how he should've been running Twitter or listened to me telling him to listen to them.

      1. Super Scary   1 year ago

        Yeah, the people cheering about Twitter "losing" money don't understand how small of a drop in the big bucket that is Elon's wealth that equates to.

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

          Wait, you're saying twitter still exists?

          1. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

            Fake news. All of the right-thinking people went to Mastadon, and then to BlueSky after Mastadon was too massively successful.

            1. mad.casual   1 year ago

              and then to BlueSky after Mastadon was too massively successful

              LOL. Worthwhile addendum/postscript.

            2. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

              Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded?

              1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

                Too complicated. I need someone to write an article explaining how to use it.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    The Federal Reserve looks likely to cut interest rates next week.

    THANK YOU, PRESIDENT TRUMP.

    1. CE   1 year ago

      More easy money, what could possibly go wrong?

  14. TD   1 year ago

    "Violence is never the answer”

    Unfortunately, violence can be the answer but preferably only in appropriate circumstances and at a last resort. To say never is simply incorrect. If it was correct we wouldn’t need a military or even personal weapons in case of self defense.

    This would be better phrased as" “think carefully before resorting to violence, and be aware that there could be severe consequences from doing so."

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      I don’t consider self defense to be violence.

      1. Zeb   1 year ago

        How do you define "violence"?

        1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

          Attacking someone else. The aggressor. The one who started it.

          1. Zeb   1 year ago

            I don't think that's really what most people mean when they use the word. I'd say it's more like using force with the intent to cause injury. Violence is morally neutral. It can be used for good and evil. That's how I look at it anyway.

            1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

              Same here.

            2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              aye

              1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

                Like the kind of force a cop used to shoot an unarmed woman dead?

              2. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

                What? I’m not really muted?

                1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

                  Hahaha haha. Welcome to the ambassador club .

                  1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

                    Losers.

        2. Ajsloss   1 year ago

          How do you define "violence"?

          Silence.

        3. Ajsloss   1 year ago

          How do you define "violence"?

          But also words.

          1. Zeb   1 year ago

            But incoherent shouting and moaning is OK.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              And murdering capitalists.

        4. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

          I've heard it's a mildly loud voice or perhaps a disagreement.

        5. Marshal   1 year ago

          How do you define "violence"?

          Any expression a left winger disagrees with.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Including simple existence, if a progressive hates your identity.

        6. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

          SHOCKING: 4 in 5 Americans think ‘words can be violence’

          Democrats and women were most likely to agree words are violence, and Republicans and men were least likely to agree.

          https://www.thefire.org/news/shocking-4-5-americans-think-words-can-be-violence

          Oct. 31, 2024 — In a disturbing new finding from the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, 4 in 5 Americans agree to at least some degree with the idea that “words can be violence.”

          In the latest edition of the quarterly National Speech Index, FIRE asked 1,000 Americans, “How much, if at all, does the following statement describe your thoughts: ‘Words can be violence.’”

          Nearly half of Americans said that statement describes their thoughts either “mostly” (23%) or “completely” (22%).

          Around a quarter responded that it describes their thoughts “somewhat” (22%).

          Another 12% responded that it matches their thoughts “slightly.”

          Only a fifth (20%) responded that the statement “does not describe my thoughts at all.”

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

            My interpretation of that data - 80% of Americans have never been punched hard in the face and 45% deserve to be.

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Given that Democrats and women equate hurt feelings with physical injury, of course they fear the violence of mean words.

            If in doubt about what Democrats might think, imagine how a pre-schooler or 13-year-old girl would react. Or maybe a cat lady.

      2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

        If I have to defend myself, it's going to be very violent.

      3. See.More   1 year ago

        > I don’t consider self defense to be violence.

        Self defense that is not sufficiently violent is simply ineffective.

    2. mtrueman   1 year ago

      "Unfortunately, violence can be the answer but preferably only in appropriate circumstances and at a last resort."

      The threat of violence however is often the first resort. When you say you're going to call the police on someone who's doing something you don't approve of, for instance.

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

        ""When you say you're going to call the police on someone who's doing something you don't approve of, for instance."""

        Here in NYC they have 311. It's the number you can call to complain about anything and everything.

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

          Can I use it to complain about hitlerian language on this forum?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Sure. Of course you have to fit one of their pre-defined victim profiles. And don't be surprised if they bill you for the call.

          2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

            If you live in NYC, sure. I bet it would not be the weirdest call they got.

    3. Roberta   1 year ago

      Violence is the answer when you have little or nothing to lose by it. That is, force is either overwhelmingly on your side or overwhelmingly against you. Either it's the cockroach you can safely squash, and you've nothing to lose by squashing, or you're the cockroach and you're probably going to accomplish nothing anyway.

  15. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

    Latest report on 2nd Trump assassination attempt has a doozey. Agent fired 6 shots from 5 feet away and went 0-6.

    The agent first noticed the suspect, later identified as Ryan Wesley Routh, and then noticed the barrel of Routh’s gun sticking through the fence line. The special agent, who may have been as close as five feet away from Routh, immediately responded by firing shots toward the suspect. It is believed six shots in total were fired; however, final ballistics are pending an ongoing FBI investigation.

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      I bet the agent was a chick.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        Wrong. It was a miracle.

    2. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

      *Day 4 of secret service agent training:*

      The end of the gun with a hole points toward the target. The shoulder thing that goes up, is the top. The metal dealy inside the metal loopy thing makes it go bang.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

        Was it a "Red Ryder range model air rifle with a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time."

        1. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

          That explains it! The agent had one eye shot out, the other had soap poisoning induced blindness.

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

            Another's tongue was stuck to a light pole, and still another had too much cold weather clothing to move his arms.

            1. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

              Secret service agents are prepared for nearly any mission, but asking them to work on a 10 degree slanted roof or the brutal Florida winter is asking too much!

    3. Bananas   1 year ago

      Too bad the shooter was armed and not climbing through a window.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      That's just target diversity. Hitting one spot with all 6 shots is white patriarchal privilege.

    5. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

      So they knew each other?

    6. Moonrocks   1 year ago

      Isn't it fairly common for law enforcement to dump whole mags and not hit anything?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Do dogs count?

    7. CE   1 year ago

      And Routh had previously flown to The Ukraine to try to raise a foreign legion to join the fight against Russia.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm29z3e5117o

      Sounds a lot like Lee Harvey Oswald, turning up in enough random places you think he could have been working for the government.

  16. Marshal   1 year ago

    Other Democrats, like Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro, managed to get it right, saying: "In America, we do not kill people in cold blood to express policy differences or a viewpoint."

    Did he? Factually it seems clear he's wrong, we do kill people to express policy differences and the left is cheering it on.

    A couple of things are likely to happen. First, people on the right are going to get pissed this murder is being rewarded with political pressure to act in support of it. Then they are going to start wondering if they have to do the same for their voices to be heard. Someone on the right is going to get pissed enough to do something violent at which time all the left wingers currently wink-wink supporting violence will about face and portray it as the end of civilization. You see violence is only appropriate in service of left wing goals.

    And we know all this because it's exactly the trajectory of BLM riots to J6. The only chance we have to stop this is right now and of course left wingers are refusing to do so because 90% can't think past next week and the other 10% think this is a wonderful outcome.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Virtually everything the left denounces is simply an admission of things they are currently doing but that they don't want the other side to do.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Alinsky approves this message.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

      The ends always justify the means when the end is marxism. And they aren't above being hypocites when they get a taste of their own medicine.

    3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      Murdering people over politics is ok because Democrats did it first.

      1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

        Wow, Sarc, what a contribution to the conversation.

        1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

          Did we actually think sarc would criticize a leftist even for murder? The one cop he likes is the one who shot babbit.

      2. VinniUSMC (Banana Republic Day 5/30/24)   1 year ago

        "Murdering people over politics is ok when Democrats do it" -Sarcjeff

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          Is that why your discharge was not honorable?

          1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

            Like you know anything about honor.

            1. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

              Sarcjeff is confused. He seems to think drunkenly yanking his daughter out of bed is honorable. He wouldn't know honor if it beat him until he looked like Glen from The Walking Dead.

          2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

            And Sarc goes straight for the ad hominem attack.

          3. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

            Broken sarc, that doesn't make a lick of sense. If you'd stop drinking so much, maybe you wouldn't have to worry about getting CPS called for molesting your child.

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              Confession by projection. You were discharged for child molestation. That's worse than SPB. You have to register too. Wowza. You really should drop USMC from your handle. You give the corps a bad name.

              1. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

                Poor broken sarc. I feel bad for your family. LOL

                1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

                  Don’t. They all left him.

              2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

                Sarc, that’s a hell of an accusation to make with zero evidence. We know what you did. I mean, for fuck’s sake, Jesse even linked and quoted the exact comment you made about tanking your daughter out of bed by her legs. Do you ever stop with the ad hominem attacks?

      3. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

        Bleeding Kansas
        Lincoln
        Garfield
        Mckinley
        The KKK and Red Shirt lynchings
        JFK
        MLK
        Weather underground
        RFK
        Etc.
        Yup.....democrats sure did do it first.

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          There you go. Any time a Republican murders someone they can say it's ok and point to your list.

          1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

            You’re on a roll this morning. Say, just how much Colt 45 did you imbibe before getting here?

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

              I suppose getting black out drunk is the closest thing to a real-life mute button.

              1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

                Alcoholic amnesia is his greatest gift.

      4. Marshal   1 year ago

        Murdering people over politics is ok because Democrats did it first.

        Is anyone else realizing sarc is just Hodor?

        1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

          Hodor actually served a purpose. Wish I could say the same for Sarc.

        2. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

          More like TIMMY!

          1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

            Sarc could lose one half of a cripple fight against himself.

            1. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

              Sarc couldn't find the tip of his nose with his finger, even if he was (ever) sober.

      5. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

        Is it?

      6. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

        How do you keep getting dumber? Oh wait, in this case you’re just being dishonest.

  17. mad.casual   1 year ago

    Violence is never the answer, BUT is always a strange sentence construction. Generally when you add but it seems like you're justifying whatever preceded it. Boilerplate condemnation rings a little hollow when you throw that little three-letter word in after.

    [tents fingers Monty Burns-style] Excellent! Our little protégé is coming along splendidly.

    1. Super Scary   1 year ago

      "you're justifying whatever preceded it"

      In my experience, using "but" completely nullifies anything that comes before it. Like "I'm not racist, but.."

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

        I have been married for over 32 years. The secret? I purposefully never follow, "I love you," with, "but". Amazing how many people make that mistake.

        1. mad.casual   1 year ago

          Pro Tip: Following "I love you" with "r butt." generally acceptable to throw into the mix.

        2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   1 year ago

          If you want a test of unconditional love, lock your wife and your dog in the trunk of your car, go back in three hours and let them out. Pay attention to which one is happy to see you

          1. markm23   1 year ago

            I knew that, but I just realized that it means dogs were bred for Stockholm Syndrome.

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      I wonder, second, why advocacy groups continue to portray gender dysphoria treatments as life-saving and medically necessary when evidence keeps emerging that challenges these commonly touted activist lines.

      [Monty Burns voice] Blast it all to Hades! It's not "evidence that keeps emerging to challenge activist narratives" it's long-established biological fact continuing to systematically demonstrate what religious fanatics and retards these half-head-shaving, armchair, wannabe scientists are!

    3. CE   1 year ago

      Never A, unless B

  18. Randy Sax   1 year ago

    there is an emerging push for the state to recognize cannabis's sacramental use so that members of ritualistic cultures...

    Come the fuck on, I hate the bullshit ticky-tacky "exceptions" to laws. Either everyone can have it, or no one can. You aren't fucking special.

    1. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

      It seems like something from the 90's where everyone was looking for a loophole. I don't see a need for it now.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      BUT WHAT ABOUT IDENTITY POLITICS?

  19. mtrueman   1 year ago

    "People can only be pushed so far,"

    That is true. That is the reason why the CEOs are hiring bodyguards. Wolfe may not appreciate a prominent politician uttering these unpleasant facts, but she can't refute them.

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

      Zero surprises mtrueman is on board with this.

      1. mtrueman   1 year ago

        If you think there's no limit to how far people can be pushed, make your case. Think of all the money you'll be saving our beleaguered CEOs.

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

          It's not a question about people being pushed to far. It's about how you behave when that happens. Killing someone for that reason is not acceptable period and you will go to prison.

          Anyone who thinks it's ok to kill someone for this reason is a hypocrite and a liar. They think it's only ok for their reasons, and it's not ok for other people to do it for other reasons.

          1. mtrueman   1 year ago

            "It's not a question about people being pushed to far. "

            According to Wolfe, that's what Warren said. If you have info to the contrary, do tell.

            "Anyone who thinks it's ok to kill someone for this reason is a hypocrite and a liar."

            Do we know the actual reason behind the murder? I mean Warren can say he was pushed too far, but the actual shooter may have had other reasons.

            1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

              ""Do we know the actual reason behind the murder? ""

              Maybe. But some people have an opinion and some of those believe it was justified because he was pushed too far. I don't have to know the actual motive to call people out for that.

              1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                You're calling Warren out for something she never said. She alluded to a possible motive for the killing. That's not justifying, condoning nor defending the shooter.

                As far as knowing the motive for the murder, I'm not convinced the police, pundits and politicians have all the facts, or if they do, they are not being open and honest with us. The shooter snapped under intense pain and frustration with his health insurance provider sounds plausible, but I think there were more important political motives at play.

                1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                  The shooter snapped under intense pain and frustration with his health insurance provider sounds plausible,

                  Continue to spread the lie while arguing that people don't have all the facts. mtrueman is the Marxist whisperer.

                  1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                    "Continue to spread the lie "

                    I'm not spreading any lies. I'm only giving my opinion. If you don't like it, tough titty. Your sensibilities are not my concern.

                    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                      The shooter snapped under intense pain and frustration with his health insurance provider

                      Is demonstrably a lie. You repeated it. Now you are either denying it is a lie or that you repeated it, it is unclear which, which is the tactic. Dissemble, deflect, distract.

                      Fuck off and die, you fucking liar Marxist apologist.

                    2. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      "Is demonstrably a lie. "

                      Then demonstrate. So far, all you offer is hysterical bluster. I wrote that the shooter snapping under pain and frustration was a plausible explanation but there probably were other motives. That's offering an opinion, not lying, which is stating something I know to be untrue.

                      "Fuck off and die, you fucking liar Marxist apologist."

                      You need to calm down and think things through. You're emotionally distraught, I understand, but don't take it out on others. And brush up on your atrocious reading skills, too.

                    3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                      Then demonstrate. So far, all you offer is hysterical bluster.

                      His family has plenty of money and he was not denied any medical coverage. His surgery was successful and he was not suffering from chronic pain. He has a prolific history of posting on Reddit to reference.

                      Any idiot could find that information, and you contend you are not an idiot. It follows then that your "opinion", so far divorced from reality, can be interpreted as an outright lie. It is not my reading skills that are in question. It is your integrity.

                    4. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      "His family has plenty of money and he was not denied any medical coverage. His surgery was successful and he was not suffering from chronic pain. "

                      So he has other reasons aside from 'snapping.' You agree with me. Your problem is in your rush to bluster and find fault with me, you failed to grasp my point. As I said, poor reading skills. Now be a good chap and try nipping at someone else's ankles.

                    5. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                      Your problem is in your rush to bluster and find fault with me, you failed to grasp my point.

                      Bullshit. I clearly got your point. But I didn't have to type out a boldface lie in making my point. Which is my point. You repeated a known lie, marginalizing the impact of the lie without acknowledging that there is no truth to it. Your were not engaging in honest discourse from the start.

                      Dissemble (repeat the lie), deflect (it may be something else), distract (I am rational and you are emotionally distraught). You hit the trifecta. Bravo, Marxist True Man.

                    6. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      " I clearly got your point."

                      That's wonderful, but nothing to boast about.

                      " You repeated a known lie, marginalizing the impact of the lie without acknowledging that there is no truth to it."

                      Can you be more specific? I don't know what you are referring to. You seem to be getting over your hysterical reaction though, which is a good thing. Now, how about nipping at the ankles of someone else?

                    7. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                      Now, how about nipping at the ankles of someone else?

                      And I would request that you not behave like a condescending asshole, but you seemingly lack the ability to do so.

                    8. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      "And I would request that you not behave like a condescending asshole, but you seemingly lack the ability to do so."

                      I don't suffer fools gladly. I'm usually willing to cut them some slack as long as they're amusing, but eventually they grow tiresome and I request they find someone else to respond to.
                      In your case it's your repeated gratuitous insults, idiot red baiting and charges of lying which you are unwilling to flesh out.

                2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

                  I'm not so much as calling Warren out specifically, but calling out anyone who thinks it was justified.

        2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

          Did you apply yet to become CEO of ben and jerry's? Your lowball salary expectation should make you a shoo-in. Failing that, Hamas leaders still need bodyguards.

        3. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

          "If you think there's no limit to how far people can be pushed, make your case.

          How far did that CEO push that rich piece of shit, you fucking bien pensant?

          Make your case why that trust-fund baby just had to shoot the CEO even though he could totally afford the surgery without any hardship himself.

          This isn't some waitress shooting the guy who denied the claim for her child's surgery. This is a spoiled, rich, elitist who's mad that he has to use the downpayment on his new Maserati to fix the back he injured doing extreme sports.

          Fuck you, Mtrueman. Seriously, fuck you. You establishmentarian midwits have become functionally evil.

          1. mtrueman   1 year ago

            "How far did that CEO push that rich piece of shit, you fucking bien pensant?"

            You're asking the wrong person. Ask Elizabeth Warren, but with a little more decorum, if you want to get an answer.

            "Make your case why that trust-fund baby just had to shoot the CEO even though he could totally afford the surgery without any hardship himself."

            I believe it was a politically motivated assassination. What's your theory?

            1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

              My theory is a very spoiled brat who had never been told "no", got very, very mad and decided to kill a man, and because he was good-looking and fashionably progressive he was treated as a Robin Hood by all the world's worst people.

              1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                That's a fine theory, different from mine. Relying on mind reading skills to figure out what was going on in the shooter's head is not the way I'd go, but you do you.

                1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

                  You don't have to mind read when he wrote enough articles to qualify as a manifesto.

                  I guess you and Sarc won't know that until Jake Tapper tells you all about it though.

                  1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                    We were discussing the shooter's motives. I thought it was politically motivated. You are interested more in his good looks, his privileged background, and other irrelevant details. Do you think he wasn't politically motivated? You really think the murder was a mere fit of pique by a spoiled child? I can see why some might want to trivialize the motives to purely personal reasons to minimize the political implications. Is that what's going on here? The hysterical bluster and insults you offer lead me to believe that.

        4. damikesc   1 year ago

          Care to guess how much Warren has siphoned off the system? And she stole OUR money.

          1. mtrueman   1 year ago

            "And she stole OUR money."

            While the insurance execs are only skimming our money. Totally different thing.

            1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

              Tell us again how the insurance company forced you to sign up and how taxes are voluntary.

              1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                I don't see how that's germane. Do you believe that an insurance company is free to abuse the trust of its customers because the customers voluntarily pay premiums? I don't think so. I don't know what point you are trying to make. Is it as banal as corporation good, government bad?

                1. Sailor1989   1 year ago

                  Hospitals: "Oh he has insurance... Charge him triple. They will pay most anyway."
                  Insurance: "Hey. That's stupid expensive and not based on other estimates. Not sure we can pay that"
                  MTrueman: "How dare the insurance fight the hospital charging out the ass"

                  1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                    It's not really a fight between the hospital and the insurance company, is it? It's the customer/patient who's left holding the bag, after all.

        5. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

          Yeah, I'm sure the wealthy kid who got a high-end surgery on mommy and daddy's dime is a representative of people being pushed to the limit. Fuck off with this bullshit. He's a champagne socialist.

          1. mtrueman   1 year ago

            ""Violence is never the answer, but people who aren't Champagne Socialists can be pushed only so far,"

            Fixed that for you.

            1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

              He wasn't pushed too far. He had a temper tantrum.

              1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                " He had a temper tantrum."

                Why are you excusing his actions? I believe he did the deed in cold blood and should face the consequences of his actions. You seem intent on minimizing the gravity of the crime. Remember the twinkie defense? Your trivializing the motives for an assassination are just as unpersuasive.

                1. Sailor1989   1 year ago

                  He is obviously belittling the man not the action of murder.

                  1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                    I think he is minimizing the crime because he doesn't want to face the political implications of it. A murder committed in the heat of an emotion outburst, a 'temper tantrum,' his words, is at best 2nd degree, and even an not guilty by reason of insanity is a possibility. A murder committed in cold blood is likely to face 1st degree charges.

                    He is also belittling the man. I detect resentment over the shooter's, good looks, privileged background, and media attention. Read his comments elsewhere if you doubt me.

                    1. Sailor1989   1 year ago

                      I detect his hatred of murder.

                2. See.More   1 year ago

                  > " He had a temper tantrum."

                  Why are you excusing his actions?

                  Explanation does not equal excuse ffs.

                  1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                    "Why are you excusing his actions?"

                    You got it wrong. I say it was a cold blooded murder in the first degree. Not something lesser which opens the door to a not guilty by insanity verdict which Mother's Lament (Salt farmer) is claiming.

      2. Moonrocks   1 year ago

        A terrorist supporter supports terrorism? I, for one, am shocked.

        1. mtrueman   1 year ago

          "I, for one, am shocked."

          You're also a terrorist supporter. You just don't realize it.

    2. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      No surprise you are on the wrong side of this.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

        He's trying to find a Jew to blame, the smug pile of shit.

        1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

          Nah, in this case he’s being a pedantic asshole to get people to engage with his trolling.

    3. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

      How far do you have to be pushed before you follow in Aaron Bushnell's footsteps?

  20. Longtobefree   1 year ago

    "The visceral response from people across this country who feel cheated, ripped off, and threatened by the vile practices of their insurance companies should be a warning to everyone in the health care system"

    OR

    The visceral response from people across this country who feel cheated, ripped off, and threatened by the vile practices of the federal government should be a warning to everyone in the deep state.

    Remember, those 'evil health care executives' are following the laws, rules, and regulations of the federal government.

    1. Ron   1 year ago

      Yes i find it odd Ellibeth Warren is complaining about health insurance when she has the abiltiy to change it since insurers are only following the law she helped create

      1. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

        Do rain dances work on insurance laws?

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

          She's got a recipe.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            For one of them native-indigenous-natural cure ceremony things? Does it work on chronic back pain? Asking for a troubled young man in Pennsylvania (for now).

    2. mtrueman   1 year ago

      "'evil health care executives' "

      They are health insurance executives. Health care is doctors, nurses, orderlies and such.

      "Remember, those 'evil health care executives' are following the laws, rules, and regulations of the federal government."

      And that's a good thing?

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

        "They are health insurance executives.""

        Yeah, not the ones charging you 200K for a day's stay in the hospital.

        1. mtrueman   1 year ago

          "a day's stay in the hospital."

          A day's stay in hospital is more accurate. For inmates of an institution, no 'the' is necessary. The criminal is going to prison, the student graduated from school, the patient is in hospital. For those who are non inmates, visitors, etc, then we use 'the.' I'm going to the prison/hospital/school to visit my auntie, for example.

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

            So you're a grammar/style nazi, in addition to being a regular one.

            1. mtrueman   1 year ago

              " being a regular one."

              Achdung! Leave my toilet habits out of this.

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                Unfortunately, you display them on this forum all the time.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Come on. Admit that you think these executives are evil. Especially if they can be blamed for not delivering miracles for free.

        1. mtrueman   1 year ago

          "Especially if they can be blamed for not delivering miracles for free."

          The execs are being blamed for not delivering money, not miracles. It's a shitty business but nobody forces a person to become a CEO, and the buck has to stop somewhere. Who would you prefer to blame?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Delusional leftist idiots.

          2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

            ""The execs are being blamed for not delivering money"'

            They are not the people charging you the money.

            It's like blaming someone for not paying ransomed when you kid has been kidnapped instead of blaming the kidnappers.

            1. mtrueman   1 year ago

              "It's like blaming someone for not paying ransomed when you kid has been kidnapped instead of blaming the kidnappers."

              I don't understand your poorly formulated analogy. If I pay insurance premiums, have cause to make a claim, and that claim is denied on some flimsy pretext, who better to blame than the execs who run the company and must take responsibility for the decisions?

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                "denied on some flimsy pretext" is doing all the lifting for your bullshit post. Is there any evidence for this happening?

                1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                  " Is there any evidence for this happening?"

                  Just a long history of protection rackets working in exactly the same way. Profits are the motive, protection is the pretext. This faux naivete about the ways of the world is not a good look.

                  1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                    So, that's a "no", then. Thanks dipshit.

                    1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                      This faux naivete is not a good look.

                    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      You failed to post evidence.

              2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

                Insurance is THE most regulated product on the market at the state and Federal level. This is a BS trope that does not happen

                1. mtrueman   1 year ago

                  Who writes the regulations? It's regulatory capture.

  21. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

    From Breitbart:
    The outgoing Biden-Harris administration gave Iran $10 billion in sanctions relief just days after Donald Trump won the 2024 presidential election, despite Iran’s ongoing attacks against Israel and support for terrorist organizations…

    The sanctions waiver also came just days after the United Nations determined that Iran was able to give the Houthi rebels in Yemen “unprecedented” support after the Biden administration waived $6 billion in sanctions on Iran.

    By freeing up Iran’s access to billions, Biden has effectively made it easier for Tehran to fund its proxies, including Hamas, Hezbollah, and Yemen’s Houthi rebels. This isn’t humanitarian aid; it’s a blank check for terror.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Never fuck with a Biden.

    2. mtrueman   1 year ago

      "Biden has effectively made it easier for Tehran to fund its proxies, including Hamas, Hezbollah, and Yemen’s Houthi rebels."

      Overthrowing Assad did not make it easier for Iran to supply Hezbollah. Syria lies between Lebanon and Iran.

      "This isn’t humanitarian aid; it’s a blank check for terror."

      It may be a peace gesture. It may be a ploy to divide the reformist president from the hardliners. These diplomatic maneuvers are often cloaked in secrecy, so we won't know until some time later. It's Israel who's been the beneficiary of a blank check for terror.

      1. Diarrheality   1 year ago

        It may be a peace gesture. It may be a ploy to divide the reformist president from the hardliners.

        Or it may be that no lie is too big to defend your love of sucking Joe Biden's dick.

        1. mtrueman   1 year ago

          What lie? Syria does indeed lie between Iran and Lebanon. Check a map, ask your parent or guardian if you doubt me.

  22. mad.casual   1 year ago

    imagine having two kids a couple years apart, one is a super human and the other isn’t

    “sorry jim, little timmy won’t get cancer, only needs 4 hours of sleep and you’re normal you were just born in the wrong order“

    It would probably be a lot like not realizing that you were born before the "Tell me you'd kill yourself without telling me you'd kill yourself." and embarrassing "life comes at you quickly" memes. I can't tell if it says more about the speaker or the person the speaker considers "smart bio founder/scientist".

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Yeah, too bad people in the 18th century did not wait to have kids until after the development of infectious disease science, anesthesia, nutrition, penicillin, and sanitation.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        I had chickenpox as a kid. My kids almost certainly never will. My Dad, Grandma, and *younger* brother all had shingles. I (and my kids) almost certainly never will.

        I'm glad I had my kids before this particular strain of infectious retardation became/becomes more prevalent.

    2. Roberta   1 year ago

      'Tain't nuthin'. Think about all the kids who were never born or conceived at all. And all those who were born as catfish or worms.

  23. Ajsloss   1 year ago

    Stop giving people more highly speculative doomer excuses to procrastinate on what’s likely to be among the most meaningful and joyful steps in their lives.

    Exactly what a breeder *would* say.

  24. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

    [No Jan 6 folks included...]

    Biden commutes 1,500 sentences and issues 39 pardons in biggest single-day act of clemency in history

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/biden-commutes-1-500-sentences-and-issues-39-pardons-in-biggest-single-day-act-of-clemency-in-history/ar-AA1vJ1x1

    Joe Biden has issued the single largest act of clemency in modern history, commuting the sentences of roughly 1,500 people and issuing 39 presidential pardons, the White House says.

    With just 40 days left in the White House, the president announced on Thursday that he is lessening the sentences of thousands of prisoners who were released and placed on home confinement for at least one year during the Covid-19 pandemic.

    Biden, who faced backlash after pardoning his own son Hunter from his federal crimes earlier this month, also issued pardons for US citizens convicted of non-violent crimes such as drug offenses, who have shown “successful rehabilitation.”

    1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

      Over under of recidivism starts at 150.

      1. Tyval Dayall   1 year ago

        I'll take the over for $1000 please.

      2. mad.casual   1 year ago

        I hated the former-governor-now-ex-convict George Ryan for failing to do his job of wading through 200 cases of death row inmates and issuing blanket commutations out of laziness and/or political malfeasance.

        I'm sure Papa Joe went through and vetted every last one of the 1,500 cases.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 year ago

          He did it because more death row prisoners had been exonerated for police and prosecutor malfeasance than executed (12-11 or thereabouts). That's a decent sample size, and commuting them to life without parole was a good substitute. The only people fearing that were the police and prosecutors who had framed them, and now could no longer rely on executions to cover up their shenanigans.

          1. mad.casual   1 year ago

            Hey Stupid, you know what Blackstone's Ratio is, right? That letting more off than killing them is supposed to be the norm and that it's just an ideal, not a strict operational function (and would still be getting abused abused if it were), right?

            There were plenty of cases in the mix where police were summoned to the scene with no prior involvement and the suspect was apprehended, covered in the victim*s*' blood with evidenc (in at least one case a kidnapped 'fetus/unborn baby'( in hand. Suspects who then, by rightful justice your own, retarded stupidity become wards of and burden on all of us whether we like it or not.

            I know you love to defend the moral paragon of IL governance against the abject evil of police, even if only occasionally, doing their job but it turns out that it's a fundamentally stupid, if not evil, fanatical/fundamentalist conception of libertarianism.

            So, fuckstick, the real question is whom are you defending here? Because nobody ever said Ryan shouldn't have pardoned anyone. Are you defending Joe Biden? George Ryan? Someone like Jaqueline Williams? Exactly how many taxpayers funding how many prisons, wardens, and guards would you throw under the bus to house and defend them?

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 year ago

              "I know you love to defend the moral paragon of IL governance ..."

              You know no such thing. If you believe it, you're a fool. If you expect me or anyone else to believe it, you're gaslighting yourself.

          2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

            Ryan did it to make himself look good after the feds were hot on his trail for selling CDLs for campaign contributions. He did it for one of the most cynical reasons I can name. That motherfucker didn’t give two shits about the six Willis kids killed by one of the assholes who bought a CDL in exchange for a campaign contribution to George “Lying” Ryan.

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 year ago

              Politician panders, news at 11.

              Tell me you love state coercion and don't give a shit about the exonerated prisoners who triggered the commutations.

              1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

                I do care about the exonerated prisoners, but the way Ryan went about it really pisses me off as he did it for wholly cynical reasons to make himself look good while the feds (rightly) were trying to put him away for his criminal activities.

    2. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

      Was Ross Ulbricht or Julian Assange or Edward Snowden on this list?

      1. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

        HAHAHA!

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Still hoping for Biden's resignation in early January, followed by the joy of a President Harris, and her pardon of the entire Biden clan for any and all crimes since the 1950s.

  25. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

    Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema gave Democrats a finger in the eye on their way out...

    'Betrayal': Dems livid as outgoing senators deliver 'crushing blow'

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/betrayal-dems-livid-as-outgoing-senators-deliver-crushing-blow/ar-AA1vHe0o

    Decisive votes against extending President Joe Biden’s nominee to the National Labor Relations Board by two outgoing independent senators provoked an immediate stream of reaction Wednesday from political observers across social media.

    The internet began to chime in after it became clear that Sen. Joe Manchin (I-WV) and Sen. Kyrsten Sinema (I-AZ) effectively cost Democrats control of the labor board through 2026 with their “no” votes.

    “Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema just delivered a crushing blow to the labor agenda,” Democratic strategist Chris Jackson wrote in a social media post. “Their votes effectively hand Donald Trump the keys to the board the moment he takes office again. This is a betrayal of working families — and a gift to corporate interests, which is par for the course for these two.”

    1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

      Sinema has been absent for a while too. She looked so happy leaving that vote.

    2. VinniUSMC (Banana Republic Day 5/30/24)   1 year ago

      "This is a betrayal of working families — and a gift to corporate interests, which is par for the course for these two.”

      No shame at all. Just blatant out and out lying.

      1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

        Doge will probably close that board down anyway.

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

          DOGE has no authority. The best it can do is publish recommendations. Congress controls the purse.

          1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

            Why so serious?

            1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

              Because they made my sequel into a musical.

              Oh wait, wrong joker.

            2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

              As much as I liked Phoenix in Joker, I still like Ledger better.

              1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

                I’ve never been into the superhero genre, but I considered watching joker because of all the hype.

                But then my far left brother was proselytizing about the underfunding of mental health services referenced in the movie, and I took a pass.

                Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair, and all that. I think I’ve seen that plot enough times.

              2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                The reason that Ledger character was so great is because he refused to be a victim. He wasn't an accident of fate, but a force of nature. He glories about the eternal struggle between chaos and order as he dangles upside-down.

                My perception of the Phoenix Joker is a pathetic man lashing out because nobody loves his unlovable character. I regret watching the first one and wouldn't watch the second without getting paid.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        How can spreading the holy progressive doctrine be lying?

  26. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

    I wonder, second, why advocacy groups continue to portray gender dysphoria treatments as life-saving and medically necessary when evidence keeps emerging that challenges these commonly touted activist lines.

    Liz, you are breaking jeffy's heart.

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

      He’ll be in soon enough to whine about it.

  27. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    '"The visceral response from people across this country who feel cheated, ripped off, and threatened by the vile practices of their insurance companies should be a warning to everyone in the health care system," said Warren. "Violence is never the answer, but people can be pushed only so far," she added.'

    Hey, Senator, does this apply to government and political parties, too? Can you accept a bit of "unfortunate" violence directed at you by people who have been pushed too far?

    1. Super Scary   1 year ago

      "Hey, Senator, does this apply to government and political parties, too?"

      "Of course! Oh wait, you meant your political party? Hell no."

    2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      The Bee rides again!

      https://babylonbee.com/news/now-now-lets-not-be-so-hasty-to-find-and-assassinate-everyone-responsible-for-the-healthcare-crisis-says-nervous-obama

  28. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

    Violence is never the answer, BUT

    Depends on the question. For instance, you catch pluggo with a child.

    1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      Ya, the degenerate left that are cheering for revolution are forgetting their side has a big problem with pedophilia, child mutilation, child murder, crime, and general authoritarian over-reach, and there are a lot of people "fed up" with their overtly immoral and deranged bullshit.

      I dont think they have thought through opening up the gates for "street justice because I think this thing is unfair and im mad" because there will be a hell of a lot of guns pointed in their direction

  29. Ersatz   1 year ago

    President Milei announces that he will reduce taxes by 90%

    1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      this man is a treasure

    2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   1 year ago

      No wonder sarc hates him.

      1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

        And Hank. Wow, does Hank ever hate him.

        That's what happens when CNN is your "reliable source".

    3. shadydave   1 year ago

      I know this is unlikely, but I hope the people of Argentina recognize what a golden opportunity this is.

    4. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

      I would welcome his conquering army as liberators.

    5. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

      I will reduce taxes 90%
      Yea!!!!

      By ending your services
      Booooo!!!!!

      1. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

        damn i would actually PAY money to end these "services" i keep receiving

        1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

          "Captain, I wish you'd stop being so good to me!"

  30. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Violence is never the answer, BUT is always a strange sentence construction. Generally when you add but it seems like you're justifying whatever preceded it.'

    And it also indicates selective values and lack of universal principles. These people hold different standards, laws, and morals for in-group and out-group people and actions. Warren and other progressives have often demonstrated the urge to treat Americans differently, according to political alignment.

    1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      They are children, if not by age, then by mentation.

      They never think for a second that the thing they are cheering for could have unintended consequences, or *gasp*, potentially would be used against them.

    2. Ron   1 year ago

      "violence is never the answer" unless you are BLM/Antifa then riot all you want and we will never charge you for crime and pay for your bail and lawyers even though 30 people died and others lost their businesses to fires but hey Violence is never the answer

  31. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'I wonder, first, how many service members using the health care system have transgender minor children.'

    According to progressives, not enough.

    'I wonder, second, why advocacy groups continue to portray gender dysphoria treatments as life-saving and medically necessary when evidence keeps emerging that challenges these commonly touted activist lines.'

    Again, not enough genital delusions.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Military people aren't bright enough to trans their children to make themselves "more interesting"?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Did they attend "elite" colleges? Do they read the NYT? How many progressive organizations do they belong to?

        Peasants!

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Or general delusions. It was pretty well established long before anybody had any questions about gender one way or the other that cutting someone's genitals off was between broadly and virtually never a life-saving or medically necessary operation.

      The 'evidence keeps emerging that challenges' take cedes the fact that there's zero evidence demonstrating efficacy or necessity to being with and they aren't simply making it all up. The outcome from the earliest clinical experiments varied from prompt failure to broadly catastrophic and, even now, the 'best' outcomes show phenomenal costs for transient, statistically-indistinguishable outcomes from even more mild interventions.

      Even if we're talking about just removing everybody's appendixes and/or medicating away something similarly non-lethal (and more objective and/or innate) like lactose intolerance, their stance is still insanely idiotic.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

        How many little boys wake up thinking, "if I can't have wound of a vagina that will try to heal itself closed for the rest of my life, I am going to kill myself"?

        Zero. They are being lied to.

        1. mad.casual   1 year ago

          Only an authoritarian dictatorship wouldn't provide free lactase or mandatory appendectomies for all of its servicemembers' children.

  32. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    "there is an emerging push for the state to recognize cannabis's sacramental use so that members of ritualistic cultures like Rastafarianism can grow and sell it in accordance with their beliefs," reports The New York Times. Some Rastafarians "want sacramental use defined in the law, licenses to cultivate and dispense cannabis set aside specifically for religious communities, and other changes that allow them to sell and consume cannabis during ceremonies."

    How about "religions" that sacrifice chickens or diddle kids?

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

      TBQH, I couldn't care less about chicken sacrifice as long as it's not done in a cruel manner.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   1 year ago

        My attitude on animal rights is that anything less than their natural life in the wild is acceptable. So don't eat your pets alive, don't let them starve to death if they are injured, and don't use them to train your children how to torture them.

  33. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    '"France on Wednesday called on Israel to respect the 'sovereignty and territorial integrity' of neighboring Syria and to withdraw its forces from the Golan demilitarized zone between the two countries," reports Politico.'

    Is this the same France that includes major cities now resembling North African capitals, and under threat of Muslim insurgency?

  34. Bananas   1 year ago

    It's ok Democrats did it first.

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

      Just ask Sarc. He’s already made the observation above.

      1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

        Hey guys, I haven’t seen your checks for the membership dues.

  35. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'The Federal Reserve looks likely to cut interest rates next week.'

    Gotta boost the inflation trajectory in time for the Trump regime.

  36. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'every smart bio founder/scientist i’ve talked to seems to think embryo editing for things like short sleeper, reduced cancer risk, etc is possible on a near term horizon'

    Wait, I thought every "smart" scientist told us that the earth will erupt in a cataclysm of Nazi-famine-climate fire any day now, and having kids only adds to human misery.

    On the other hand, if all these mental defectives choose not to reproduce, the gene pool will improve.

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      embryo editing for things like short sleeper, reduced cancer risk, etc is possible on a near term horizon'

      What about skin color ?

      1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

        Of course, as it’s the most important thing.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          We'd like our kid to come out kinda mocha...

    2. Eeyore   1 year ago

      When your gene edited kid dies in their teens due to an off target mutation your unedited kid will thank you for having them earlier.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        Even on target, it's like these people who are sure they can eliminate a significant portion of our sleep cycle have never met a methamphetamine user.

        Just imagine, while your unedited kid is asleep dreaming about who they'll marry or what job they'll have or what their kids will be like, your edited will be busy brushing their teeth until their gums bleed and then emptying, dusting, and refilling the pantry and all the cupboards 3X a night for ~80 yrs.!

        I can't count the number of "smart bio scientists" who've assured me that the cure for cancer is "possible on a near term horizon". My personal favorite was the NPR guest, an M.D. about a decade ago, who said that, even if their tech isn't a sliver bullet for cancer, 'it could/would work like a silver bullet for some cancers, and a golden bullet for others, and a bronze bullet for still others...' apparently unaware that silver bullets are mythical because werewolves, all of them, can't be killed any other way and, using multiple bullets made of lead, copper, and other alloys to kill things is not a new or revolutionary idea.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

          People can and should be judged on the quality of the metaphors they use. It indicates the ability to think critically about what they are saying.

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

            The bear in my trunk has covid.

            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

              LOL!

            2. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

              LOL! That will never not be funny as hell.

        2. Eeyore   1 year ago

          Cancers that are caused by specific mutations will probably eventually all be curable. Cancers that arise from age and genetic damage will probably always be a crap shoot regarding treatment success. There is just no way to reverse a loss of information.

          It's a tough nut to crack.

          1. mad.casual   1 year ago

            It's not one nut. It's not 'either a genetic nut or a age/damage nut'. There are parts of your body designed, or potentially not (yet) "designed", to fail after ~80-100 yrs. and even if you design the cancer out of them, it's not guaranteed to work for, if not against, cells like the lining of your stomach that specifically aren't designed to last a month.

            It's like crime or entropy, the system will always have flaws. We don't get to find the next similar ones until we chip through all the ones we're currently facing.

            1. Eeyore   1 year ago

              Maybe a brazil nut. If you have ever tried getting into a whole one - it is a beast.

  37. shadydave   1 year ago

    How on earth did Warren's career survive the "affirmative action because she's Cherokee" stuff? I mean that should absolutely bury someone Rachel Dolezal style.

    1. Zeb   1 year ago

      Because no one with sufficient influence wanted to take her out, I guess.
      In any case, that's probably close to the least offensive thing about her.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      She played it like "I was only saying what I had been told about my family growing up.", i.e., it wasn't her fault that her family history was wrong or that she exploited her imagined status for personal gain.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Because Massachusetts.

      1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

        Buncha massholes.

  38. Moderation4ever   1 year ago

    The response of much of the public to Brian Thompson's killing has been awful and ugly. There are no "buts" here it was simply wrong. Politicians like Senator Warren do nothing to help people understand the limits of the healthcare system. They just promote a fairytale of some ideal system in which people get all they want and it cost them nothing.

    1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

      Yep.

      I think the new generation is being taught that everything should come to them. By taught, I mean experiencing things like helicopter parenting. When you do everything for them as a kid, they will expect that as they get older.

    2. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

      You dropped character.

      1. Moderation4ever   1 year ago

        Have I? First, I have never nor will ever endorse killing. Second as a moderate centrist I approach life from a pragmatic standpoint. I have my issues with the health care system in this country, but I don't think there is perfect system. My goal would not be a perfect system, but rather and optimized system that gives the best possible outcome, knowing that it will not be perfect.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

          My goal would not be a perfect system, but rather and optimized system that gives the best possible outcome,

          For who? The patient, the doctor, the insurance company and the taxpayer all have different optimal outcomes. When you add altruism as a motivation, surprisingly, everything only gets worse and worse.

          1. Moderation4ever   1 year ago

            Let not look at optimization in terms of one group over another but rather in the marketplace and use the parameters damikesc described below. So, optimize to deliver good quality health care, that is widely available and reasonably priced. Note that each of the groups you mentioned has a part to play in the optimization.

        2. Don’t. Get. Eliminated.   1 year ago

          Better, but still a little off.

    3. damikesc   1 year ago

      I heard, years ago, with any service, you can have 2 of three things.

      1.) Quality
      2) Availability
      3) Price

      You can never have all 3. Nobody has ever pulled it off.

      1. Moderation4ever   1 year ago

        The basic laws of economic and supply and demand will preclude having all three. This is true because Quality and Availability tend to drive Price in opposite directions.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        And with government service you will be lucky to get one.

      3. Diarrheality   1 year ago

        Fast, cheap, good--pick two.

  39. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

    It's all food trucks and economic benefits! Stop complaining about crime!

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/democrat-slammed-for-saying-he-s-tired-of-hearing-about-migrant-crime-from-law-enforcement-partisan-hack/ar-AA1vGVZc

    Democratic New York Rep. Dan Goldman is being ripped for comments he made during a House hearing on illegal immigration about Nassau County law enforcement, saying he is looking forward to not having to hear from Nassau police officers again.

    The incident occurred during a House Subcommittee on Emergency Management and Technology hearing titled "Given the Green Light: Open Border Policies and Threats to Law Enforcement."

    After being recognized by subcommittee Chairman Anthony D’Esposito, Goldman, who represents portions of Manhattan and Brooklyn, launched into a rant in which he said he was shocked to have to sit through another hearing about the illegal immigration crisis and indicated he was especially tired of hearing from Nassau County, New York, law enforcement officials.

    "It is quite shocking that we are having another hearing about this same topic. We have certainly exhausted it," Goldman said.

    "I think we’ve probably had every single law enforcement official from Nassau County before this subcommittee. Can’t say I’m going to miss that when the chairman is not going to be with us next term."

    D’Esposito, who represents Nassau County in Congress, pointed out during the hearing that Goldman, who has a net worth of $253 million and is heir to the Levi Strauss & Co. jeans company, owns a summer home in the county and is one of the residents kept safe by Nassau officers.

  40. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

    I wonder, first, how many service members using the health care system have transgender minor children.

    None. The answer is none. Because there is no such thing.

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      This.

  41. Rick James   1 year ago

    "The hang up in the bill—which took months of negotiations between parties—centers on a provision that would prohibit the military's Tricare health system from covering gender dysphoria treatments 'that could result in sterilization' for children under 18," reports Politico. I wonder, first, how many service members using the health care system have transgender minor children.

    Hard to say. Depending on the school, depending on the state, the number is alarmingly high.

    27% of California adolescents say they are viewed as gender nonconforming, study finds
    The survey measures youths’ perceptions of how they are seen by their student peers

    “The data show that more than one in four California youth express their gender in ways that go against the dominant stereotypes,” said lead author Bianca D.M. Wilson, the Rabbi Barbara Zacky Senior Scholar of Public Policy at the Williams Institute. “However, the heightened psychological distress we see among gender nonconforming youth indicates that we must continue to educate parents, schools and communities on the mental health needs of these young people and reduce known risk factors, such as bullying and bias.”

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      26.99972% of California adolescents are psychologically abused by their parents and teachers.

      1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

        number seems low

    2. shadydave   1 year ago

      When I was growing up, California was the place everyone dreamed of going. It's now where people dream of leaving.

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

        I was in Southern Cal in 1981 - '82. Loved it.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      "27% of California adolescents say they are viewed as gender nonconforming, study finds

      "The survey measures youths’ perceptions of how they are seen by their student peers"

      And 100% of those kids are part of a faddish mass delusion, like all kids their age. Instead of chopping off dicks and tits, how about gently encouraging normal thinking?

      1. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

        Lol teens claim to be part of the edgy teen fad that their parents dont understand.

        yeah it must be real

      2. Super Scary   1 year ago

        When I was in high school it was popular to wear leather bracelets and band t-shirts, but I guess kids nowadays are just a little different.

        1. Rick James   1 year ago

          1970s: I can't believe I had that haircut.
          1980s: I can't believe I wore those pants.
          1990s: I can't believe I thought that band was cool.
          2000s: I can't believe I cut my uterus out and my breasts off.

    4. Zeb   1 year ago

      the heightened psychological distress we see among gender nonconforming youth indicates that we must continue to educate parents, schools and communities on the mental health needs of these young people and reduce known risk factors, such as bullying and bias.
      I'm not sure that's the right takeaway from the situation.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        I'm pretty sure it's the wrong takeaway and only about 5% unsure it's not intentionally the wrong takeaway.

        There is no other mental disorder in history that demanded such a one-sided and supportive facilitating takeaway. (Pop-)Psychology has apparently lost/abandoned/forbade the concept of eustress (stress or a response to stress that produces positive outcomes). Even for actually psychologically-dysfunctional and even destructive individuals there is supposed to be a stress from their psychological disparity and a value to overcoming it. What the proposed takeaway is, is a concerted effort to emphasize and reinforce the disparity and demand further accommodation.

        1. Rick James   1 year ago

          Me: I think I'm St. Jerome!

          Mental Health Industry: Well, we should pillory the Monastery of St. Jerome to change their rules to let you live there.

          1. mad.casual   1 year ago

            Schools should be brought back under the dominion of The Church and kids should be taught Latin in order to avoid bullying and bias against Jerome-identifying individuals.

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          That's what I really don't understand. Even people with compulsively compassionate urges can't ask "what is really best?". If a person is suffering from profound mental distress, why do they jump to "Hey, let's indulge extreme fantasy claims and support decisions made by a crazy person!"?

          1. Rick James   1 year ago

            Check out Jordan Peterson over here.

  42. eyeroller   1 year ago

    This rich-on-rich violence needs to stop.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      But please not until somebody takes out Liz Warren.

      1. SQRLSY   1 year ago

        Until somebody takes her out to the ball game, to ball-room dancing, playing billiard-ball games, or udderwise balling her?

        You first!

  43. Bill Dalasio   1 year ago

    But no, a consensus has emerged from ‘progressives’ that Thompson ‘had it coming’, and that his alleged killer can be excused for his apparently good motives. Worse still, he can even be indulged on account of his good looks.

    They think they can have hell, and they get to be the Devil. It doesn't work that way. We have morality and basic standards of decency for a reason. And regardless of what they want to think, it's not to protect the rest of us from the likes of Elizabeth Warren, Taylor Lorenz or Arwa Mahdawi. They're useless parasites on a morality they could never have established or lived up to. And, increasingly, the parasites are thinking they're superior to the host. God help us all if we're ever in a condition where they're forced to confront how wrong they are.

    1. Eeyore   1 year ago

      The parasites are running the asylum.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Che Guevara syndrome. And the cure is still the same.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

        Are you talking about the cure for being Che Guevara, or the cure for idolizing Che Guevara.

        Because even sharing the confirmed story that Che shot a 12 year-old boy in the head in front of the boy's father, as punishment for refusing to kneel for his own execution, is not certain to cure the latter.

        Whereas a bullet to the head while he pathetically pleads for his life is a certain cure for the former.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Shooting Marxists in the head is always a good idea.

          1. markm23   1 year ago

            Use an axe and save ammunition.

    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

      Mafia hit-man; scumbag.

    4. SQRLSY   1 year ago

      Agreed! Political violence is just WRONG!

      (Except for "Hang Mike Pence", "Execute General Milley", and udder political violence favored by My Team!!!)

  44. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

    "People can only be pushed so far"

    Proof that it is possible to be both right and wrong at the same time! Warren is right that people can only be pushed so far (viz. The American Revolution) and yet, when a campaign ad placed a graphic telescopic gun sight reticle over a Democrat running for office a few years ago, he/she/it was at the forefront of those screaming in horror that even a misinterpretation of a possible hint of violence against a prominent public socialist personality was criminally actionable, terrifying and an unacceptable existential threat to our democracy! So much for the double standards of socialists ...

  45. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

    "Collectively, China and Russia are now pooling their expertise"

    They will be lucky if it works any better than Russia's "paper tiger" invasion of Ukraine. Although I haven't read much about the Chinese or Russian space stations lately, it doesn't take much to keep an alloy bubble pressurized in space once you get it there, so it doesn't say much about potential future innovations by totalitarian "experts" in my opinion.

    1. SQRLSY   1 year ago

      OK so "tobacco of space"… I immediately thought of what they apparently want me to think of, which was that the American colonies floundered about what to export for money, to the Old World, and then they “hit on” tobacco, and SMOKED this HOT hit! (I don’t get why the Old World didn’t just immediately import plant seeds, and grow for themselves, the likes of “Turkish” tobacco, thereby bypassing the New World farmers, but that’s a diversion).
      I can’t find anything useful about "tobacco of space", can you? I think that WATER is the “petroleum of space”, for obvious reasons.
      Also note that I am a “space geek” and follow it closely. Seems to me that high-speed-impact deliveries of bulk cargo and high-G resistant cargos (both, really) onto the moon’surface would save a LOT of rocket fuel, as opposed to “soft landing” everything, including cargo that does NOT NEED a soft landing. Such bulk cargo could include carbon (the moon has very little native carbon) to be combined with hydrogen (from moon-water) to make Musk’s favorite rocket fuel, which is methane.
      For fellow geeks who might want to read about “impact deliveries” to the moon, start with the following link, which links to other papers as well. Well OK here’s one: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338534654_High-G-Force_Impact-Landings_Methods_of_Cargo_Delivery_to_Earth's_Moon_or_Other_Heavenly_Bodies_Lacking_an_Atmosphere And the most recent one (which links to others) is this: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/380783853_Artemis_Accords_Proposed_Coverage_for_Lunar_Impact_Cargo_Deliveries

  46. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

    "the sovereignty and territorial integrity of neighboring Syria"

    Bwahahahahahahaaaaaaa!!! Aspirational principles and wishful thinking at its most hilarious! If the Frenchies think a "1974 disengagement agreement" still has any existence in reality fifty years of terrorist attacks and Middle East warfare later - or, for that matter, the UN generally - they must have accidentally eaten some of those "funny" champignons!

  47. shadydave   1 year ago

    Twitter imbecile of the day:

    "I'd argue Daniel Penny is more of a danger to society than Luigi Mangione"

    https://x.com/RyanElward/status/1866204375829602651

    1. Marshal   1 year ago

      Here's Professor Julia Alekseyeva entering the competition:

      https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1866357249767010707/video/1

      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

        Surprisingly, she has blue hair.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

          Surprisingly, I have no qualms about about calling a woman who expresses such callous opinions a stupid cunt.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            If she has a fetish about violent rogue men, we could probably arrange for her to spend some time at the state penitentiary.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      I can see his point if "society" is mentally-impaired, dysfunctional progressives and their pets.

  48. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   1 year ago

    The comment "Violence is never the answer, but people can be pushed only so far," really means that she down not want to be perceived as advocating violence, while supporting violence.

    1. mtrueman   1 year ago

      It seems she is speaking out against pushing people for fear of pushing them too far. A very Libertarian take, it seems to me.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 year ago

        FOAD, asshole.

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

        How can we push you to self-immolate, a la Bushnell?

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        How retarded are you?

      4. GroundTruth   1 year ago

        All she is offering is plausible deniability so that she can not be convicted of inciting violence.

    2. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

      you can recognize that other people act inappropriately.

  49. Longtobefree   1 year ago

    Best take on violence was a Mary Tyler Moore scene with Lou Grant.
    She said "Violence never settles anything."
    He replies "Mary, violence, pure violence, settles all football games, most boxing matches, and at least two marriages I know of."

    *cut to commercial*

    1. markm23   1 year ago

      Violence is also why Germany isn't currently ruled by Adolph Hitler III, and China by Japanese militarists. It's why the Tsars no longer mis-rule in Moscow, as well as why they came to power in the first place. It's why the UK speaks English rather than some Celtic language, and how the Celts took the islands from whoever preceded them in the first place. It's why Mexico City is no longer the scene of Aztecs tearing the beating heart out of slaves.

  50. Uncle Jay   1 year ago

    "People can only be pushed so far," sitting Senator Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) told HuffPost on Tuesday, in response to the killing of United HealthCare CEO Brian Thompson on the streets of Midtown Manhattan."

    Yeah, you're right Pocahontas...and all you leftist turds are pushing all the sane people too far with your Marxist bullshit.

  51. Kevin Carson   1 year ago

    Liz Wolfe, cheap Ann Coulter knockoff

    1. ITL (Factio Democratica delenda est)   1 year ago

      Given some of what Liz has written, I think you’re an asshole, Kevin Carson. She’s not even remotely like Ann Coulter.

      1. SQRLSY   1 year ago

        Your citations fell off! Did SNOT cum through! Please amend, Amen!

        1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

          Is Carson your Sock, Shillsy? Say, are you Hank too?

          1. SQRLSY   1 year ago

            ALL of the "Team R" Loyal Tribalists, in their MILLIONS, are Real and True Good Folks, and NONE are trolls and-or socks!!! Shit is known!!!
            ALL of the NON-loyal deviants are butt ONE centralized troll-sock! Shit is known!!! The GOOD Folks are LEGION, opposed by just about NONE! So just go ahead and STEAMROLLER and DOGPILE that one lonely deviant; shit is GOOD to do that!

            So there, there, GOOD Folks! Better now? Does THIS appease Your PervFected Paranoia and Power Piggery?

    2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   1 year ago

      What the hell, is Hank sockpuppeting again? He's the only one I know that thinks Liz is Richard Nixon because she doesn't repeat stuff he learned from MSNBC.

      1. Minadin   1 year ago

        I thought cheap Liz mostly wrote about sex work . . .

  52. lwt1960   1 year ago

    Never forget that progressives hate America. They just see it as the only place with enough wealth to put their harebrained schemes into action. They used to keep it to themselves, but they get more brazen each year. I'm sure we're all sick of this year's most overused phrase of "saying the quiet part outloud".

    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

      It's no longer the quiet part.

    2. TJJ2000   1 year ago

      ^THIS +100000000.
      "only place with enough wealth to" ... conquer and consume.
      ...because they think that's what Gov-Guns job is for.

      Criminal minds.
      What to-do when the government starts working for criminal minds.

  53. TJJ2000   1 year ago

    "pushed so far"????

    By Individual Freedom and Free-Markets or by Gov-'Gunned' Healthcare????

    Seriously. Democrats. You are a victim of your own creations.
    Try using your brains just a little tiny bit.

    Hint; Hint....
    Q: WHEN exactly did Health Insurance move into the top 1%?
    A: WHEN Obamacare got passed.

  54. GroundTruth   1 year ago

    Apologies to the rest of the country that Massachusetts keeps electing ultra-left fools to national office.

  55. markm23   1 year ago

    "People can only be pushed so far." Let's hope that this does not become the inscription on her tombstone commemorating her murder by someone who's been pushed too far.

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