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Plus: An end to NYC's migrant shelters, a major quantum computing advancement, and more...

Leadership change, odd media coverage: The rebel group that overthrew longtime Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, has received some strange press as the Western media attempts to make sense of it all. HTS's leader, Abu Mohammed al-Jolani "joined other foreign fighters in Iraq [after the 2003 invasion by the U.S.] and, in 2005, was imprisoned at Camp Bucca, where he…was introduced to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi," who would later lead the first caliphate of the Islamic State (IS), per the BBC. "In 2011, Baghdadi sent Jolani to Syria with funding to establish al-Nusra Front, a covert faction tied to ISI. By 2012, Nusra had become a prominent Syrian fighting force, hiding its IS and al-Qaeda ties."
Here's how the BBC describes Jolani's transformation:
Tensions arose in 2013 when Baghdadi's group in Iraq unilaterally declared the merger of the two groups (ISI and Nusra), declaring the creation of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL or ISIS), and publicly revealing for the first time the links between them.
Jolani resisted, as he wanted to distance his group from ISI's violent tactics, leading to a split.
To get out of that sticky situation, Jolani pledged allegiance to al-Qaeda, making Nusra Front its Syrian branch.
From the start, he prioritised winning Syrian support, distancing himself from IS's brutality and emphasising a more pragmatic approach to jihad.
They even dip into a little bit of fashion reporting: "Once clad in traditional jihadist militant attire, he has adopted a more Western-style wardrobe in the past years. Now, as he leads the offensive, he has donned military fatigues, symbolising his role as the commander of the operations room."
Why is legacy media running puff pieces for Jolani?
What's been going on in Syria is the mirror image of the De-Ba'athification process that took place in Iraq in 2003 after the fall of Saddam.
Only this time, Shia vengeance is replaced by the Sunni variety.
Don't get me… pic.twitter.com/4of1ZYflNh
— Melissa Chen (@MsMelChen) December 11, 2024
On one hand, the BBC may just be attempting to taxonomize different terrorist groups in a way that Western audiences will understand. On the other, "pragmatic" jihad is still jihad; HTS is a terrorist group, and it's not clear that rule by these types will result in an improvement in the lives of actual Syrians, relieved though they may be at Assad being deposed.
And the opportunity for power grabs by others in the region is not cause for optimism. By yesterday's end, Israel had launched over 350 airstrikes at military sites across Syria, "taking out the Navy, fighter jets, drones, tanks, air-defense systems, weapons plants and a wide array of missiles and rockets," reports The New York Times. Israel claims this is necessary to assure its own safety, and that these weapons must be taken out of the hands of whomever ends up ruling Syria. It has also entered the Golan Heights and seized military posts there.
The ideology of a shooter: More information has been uncovered about Luigi Mangione, the 26-year-old Ivy Leaguer who has been arrested following the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson. A manifesto was found on his person and published online by independent journalist Ken Klippenstein, with sections such as:
I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as [sic] our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed [sic] them to get away with it.
("By market cap, UHG is only the 14th largest company in the US," corrects Jeremy Horpedahl on X.)
Some have claimed the manifesto doesn't match Mangione's writing style:
feds hyping themselves up while writing luigi's manifesto: pic.twitter.com/XS7p71oH1J
— simone de bolivar (@billieanania) December 10, 2024
Others have attempted a deep dive into his influences and possible motivations, via scouring his digital footprint. "This is not the follow list of a D.S.A. member or a Black Bloc agitator or a Molon Labe guy or a NEET schizoposter. Almost no one on this list stands out as hard left or hard right, or even particularly 'political,' as such," writes Max Read at his Substack. "Instead, it's a mix of bro-ish pop-science and self-improvement media personalities (e.g. Tim Urban and Andrew Huberman), tech 'accelerationists' (e.g. 'Beff Jezos,' Sam Altman, Leopold Aschenbrenner), secular cultural conservatives (e.g. Jash Dholani, LindyMan, Jonathan Haidt), anti-establishment-coded figures (e.g. Edward Snowden and A.O.C.), and people who are all of the above (e.g. Joe Rogan)."
He is, in other words, a familiar type. "It's a loudly non-partisan, self-consciously 'rational' mish-mash of declinist conservativism, bro-science and bro-history, simultaneous techno-optimism and techno-pessimism, and self-improvement stoicism--not left-wing, but not (yet) reactionary, either. The basic line is something like: The world is getting worse and phones are killing us; politics won't save us but technology might; in the meantime, lift weights, take supplements, listen to podcasts," notes Read.
The outstanding question is how he got from there to here, or how this belief system comports with what is expressed in his manifesto and the fact that he used horrifyingly violent means to attempt to get his point across. Note that the bro-science universe should not be confused with the alt-right world, or the pickup artistry one, or anything of the sort: Mangione appeared to be a garden-variety Huberman bro, a totally innocuous type—until he wasn't.
Scenes from New York: Yesterday, New York city officials announced the closure of the massive migrant tent shelter that sits on federal land at Floyd Bennett Field (which happens to be close to my house).
The mayor apparently "increasingly feared that President-elect Donald J. Trump would revoke the shelter's lease once he takes office in January—or assert the administration's right to launch immigration raids on federal land," reports The New York Times. Interestingly, it's not just Floyd Bennett that will be shuttered, but 24 other shelters across the five boroughs, apparently because fewer migrants are flooding into the city and claiming a need for shelter.
"The slate of closures was yet another signal of how the city's migrant crisis, which prompted the city to spend more than $6 billion over two years to house migrants, has continued to wind down," notes the Times. I wonder if bad electoral news for Democrats had any bearing on these decisions, or recent exposés ("New York City's $4B shelter system rife with mismanagement, nepotism, investigators say," per Associated Press reporting). It could very well be a confluence of reasons. Either way, good riddance: This was the very same shoddily constructed shelter that, when severe rains came in January of this year, could not withstand the weather. So city officials temporarily seized a south Brooklyn high school to use as a replacement migrant shelter, forcing students into remote learning.
QUICK HITS
- "Google's quantum computing division unveiled a new chip, dubbed Willow, that the tech giant says makes it infinitely faster and better than existing supercomputers," reports PC Mag. Here's a thread that sorts what is signal and what is noise in the resulting coverage:
As there is a lot of confusion and noise regarding the quantum demo presented by Google, I've made a summary ✅ of a space organized by @GillVerd (aka @BasedBeffJezos ) who is a Ph.D., has worked as the Quantum Algorithms Lead at Google X, and has a good understanding of…
— Jediwolf (@randomcdog) December 10, 2024
- "President Joe Biden plans to formally block the $14.1 billion sale of United States Steel Corp. to Nippon Steel Corp. on national security grounds once the deal is referred back to him later this month, people familiar with the matter said," reports Bloomberg.
- Anothah one:
BREAKING: A federal judge on Tuesday blocked Kroger's $24.6 billion acquisition of Albertsons, ruling that the proposed union would lessen competition for grocery shoppers. https://t.co/vkCMmwAwVL
— CBS News (@CBSNews) December 10, 2024
- One of New York's Black Lives Matter leaders decided to threaten Daniel Penny on his way out of the courtroom after Penny had been acquitted:
in summary: if someone tries to kill you, you must do nothing. if someone intervenes, he will be brought to court. if a jury finds him not guilty, he will have his life threatened by a terrorist masquerading as a hero. and you will be expected, again, to say nothing. pic.twitter.com/eyfxLJHLUh
— Mike Solana (@micsolana) December 9, 2024
- An incredible example of community notes in action:
Jordan Neely deserved basic human rights: a safe place to live, enough to eat, and access to mental healthcare. He should still be alive today.
It's time for New York leaders to seriously address the root drivers of homelessness and our chronic lack of mental health care.
— NYCLU (@NYCLU) December 9, 2024
- A condo association in downtown San Francisco is suing over noise being emitted by pickleball players at a nearby court. Normally I'd say busybodyism should be rejected, and there's not really much of a conflict of rights here, but I do think pickleball is a fake sport.
- Where did they go?
Whatever happened to all those NYC media critics who lectured us that the pharmacy, retail and grocery closures in SF were totally routine and not related to rampant crime? https://t.co/GL44VEcd44
— Lee Fang (@lhfang) December 11, 2024
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More information has been uncovered about Luigi Mangione...
That he is, indeed, a spicy meatball?
How the hell do we know more about this guy in a matter of days than we know about the Trump shooter in five months?
Why did he praise the Feds in his manifesto?
The feds can't help but praise themselves?
I'm waiting for him being in a Blackrock video to drop.
Black Rocks Matter!
Once the Feds mobilized against Trump they became the good guys again.
Social media clean-up is part of the glow compensation package, not for rogue agents.
Because the Trump shooter was a fed
Do you WANT to get SWATed?
You know the answer
He hasn't been the same since his brother Mario was crushed by a giant ape.
Hey Fist,
I probably missed this discussion last week, but did you catch the personal shout out to you from Matt Welsh on the Webathon bonus Podcast?
Apparently he was a trust fund spoiled kid who encountered literally 1 hardship in the course of his life (hurt his back surfing on mommy and daddy's dollar), and went down the rabbit hole of how unfair the healthcare system is in the setting of his chronic back pain.
He got radicalized online bitching about the system, despite having every advantage the system could offer.
This dude is the poster boy for rich spoiled white antifags
Don't mess with the elite.
Also, he just hit the age where the insurance companies don't have to keep him on mommy and daddy's insurance policies, so he probably got cut off for that reason and was too cheap/lazy to go out and get his own policy.
What happened to the progressive promise of endless childhood?
The promise grew up into a lie.
Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair!
Just yesterday Reason had an article about their defense of free speech.
https://reason.com/2024/12/10/support-reason-to-support-free-speech-and-open-debate/
However they have not been staunch defenders from Mackey, to arrests of pro life protestors, J6 defendents being made to make realty statements, Mackey, and others.
Another story, despite being near their favorite reporter from Texas is also being ignored. A judge has threatened a gag order and other consequences without signing the gag order that could be appealed. This story deals with the whistelblower from Texas Children's Hospital who shwoed TCH was lying about trans surgeries and treatments on children.
The wife of the whistleblower has a long thread on what her husband is facing to silence his speech, mostly due to DoJ incompetence in the trial.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1866136486233464941.html
Details of the story here.
https://www.thefp.com/p/biden-prosecution-eithan-haim-gender-care-childrens-hospital-transitions
Because Reason under KMW is no longer libertarian. It's now just the leather jacket wearing, fake-contrarian part of establishmentarianism.
They aren't going to publish a thing that will actually piss off the DC power structure.
I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming.
"We all have it coming, kid."
Provide a service as mandated by the government = “parasite”.
Well, it's kind of true. I prefer "rent seeker" as a more specific term.
But when the parasite is a human being and isn't directly threatening you, it's still evil to murder them.
Having not seen it in a while, I watched Unforgiven again recently. Christ what a great movie. A little dark (pretty much no one in the whole film comes off as the "good guy"), but what a great movie.
If parasites deserve it, this country suddenly becomes a target-rich environment.
Deserve's got nothing to do with it.
"I've killed just about everything that walks or crawled at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Brian Thompson."
“Maybe you should just hang the carpenter”
Why is legacy media running puff pieces for Jolani?
Arab Spring 3.0.
The musical?
It's springtime for Jolani and Syria.
Zero Mostel starring?
What amazes me is that it's so easy to get the concept of "bad guys vs bad guys." We see it all the time. Hell the Yankees just played the Dodgers in the World Series. We should be able to get it.
But apparently in the neocon world order, such thoughts are heresy.
How else can we give/sell arms to both sides?
Valid point as soon as Trump takes office they will turn those stories around
Jeffs authoritative newspaper of choice has a doozy if a headline.
https://x.com/StarChamberMaid/status/1866477511535902782
Jury acquits man who was choking rider on subway.
There he was, minding his own business, when suddenly,,..,..
And if society had only provided his human right to a limo ride, Neely would not have been on the subway. How guilty do you feel now, America?
The door bell rang, and the cable repair man was there...
O wait wrong set up
They’ll probably save “He was really turning his life around…” for the civil case
“Cleared of homicide”
They make sound like Perry murdered Neeley.
Their skin colors support that.
I wouldn’t rule out that the boring “comedy” of Tyler Perry played a role in Neelys mental problems.
All the fits that are news to print . . .
It's a loudly non-partisan, self-consciously 'rational' mish-mash of declinist conservativism, bro-science and bro-history...
You know who else captured the brohams?
Ford? Oh, wait, that was broughams.
PC Principal?
Frank Reynolds?
While Reasons 2nd ammendment editor was busy shit posting about qanon and tariffs last night, ATF was raiding 2nd amendment advocate searching for illegal guns off of no actual evidence. They find none. Point guns at kids. Use flash bang on wife in kitchen.
https://redstate.com/jeffc/2024/12/10/they-pointed-guns-at-my-kids-atf-raids-home-of-second-amendment-activist-and-community-leader-n2183022
Sickening....what threat does an unarmed child present to a heavily armed ATF team?
Will the people who pointed their loaded guns at children be held to account? This kind of behavior is what we elected Pres Trump to put an end to.
Local news, not libertarian enough, it's (D)ifferent.
Jacob is only concerned about the 2nd when Hunter is involved.
Fair.
I don't know if that's fair. Sullum has been pretty consistently good on gun stuff over the years.
Sullum is (D)erelict of (D)uty and is (D)iagnosed with T(D)S.
Sullum is a steaming pile of TDS-addled shit.
the authorities don't like it when you teach POC their rights especially their 2nd amendment rights. the Left does like their constituants uninformed.
I have a friend who is solidly on the Left, but not exactly so far that I would call him 'progressive'. He was *very* shocked to hear that I thought that Black people have just the exact same constitutional right to bear arms as white people (or any other color citizen for that matter).
Like, he hadn't even considered that as a response. Very telling.
Detransitioner is now suing doctor who hid results of study funded by HHS showing no health improvement from transing kids.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/health/despicable-failed-experiment-detransitioner-sues-doctor-who-hid-taxpayer
"its not happening"
Neither is sanity for some people.
Liz mentioned this yesterday. Lol if you're ganna be such a critic, at least be on point.
Critic? Jesse didn't criticized anything.
I keep saying how the leftists are getting dumber.
It’s the Roundup and pretty much anything goes.
Where did I criticize anyone in that post retard?
Whose sock are you?
For some reason I read that in the voice of Frederic Forrest (surplus store owner) in Falling Down: "What kind of vigilante are you?"
(Probably triggered by the Unforgiven thread above.)
"Lol if you're ganna be such a critic"
Where was he criticizing Liz?
If you're going to be such a critic, wait until the people you are criticizing are actually doing the thing you are criticizing them for.
I'm guessing it is sarc too. He has that bad habit.
AI isn’t quite there yet, huh machine?
On top of this, the UK is now banning puberty blockers for "trans" kids because of the physiological damage it causes. Those drugs were made for short-term use, not years and years through the entirety of adolescence and into early adulthood.
And all the data from the Cass review, the Finland study, and the WPATH files are going to be entered into court due to this case. With any luck, it will take down the entire cottage industry to convince kids they're born in the wrong body, like what chemtard and Nelson support.
I do have a suggestion for DOGE - require all government employees to be eunuchs. For female employees it is sufficient for them to be circumcised.
The mayor apparently "increasingly feared that President-elect Donald J. Trump would revoke the shelter's lease once he takes office in January..."
President Trump giving Adams cover to close migrant camps. Is there any problem Trump can't solve?
The logic doesn't flow, but hey, if it gets them to do their job.
Logic? Given that both Woke and MAGA deny logic, why worry?
ActBlue was knowingly taking money from foreign purchased gift cards.
causes, has informed Congress it did not automatically block donations made with foreign-bought gift cards until recently, a potentially significant revelation in an ongoing investigation into whether China, Russia, Iran or Venezuela routed illicit money to Democrat candidates.
House Administratrion Chairman Bryan Steil, R-Wis., whose panel oversees election integrity, told Just the News on Tuesday that ActBlue turned over documents under subpoena showing a major change in September to its donor verification policies designed to protect against illicit money flowing into political campaigns.
https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/actblue-bombshell-dem-money-platform-tells-congress-it-didnt-block
So what if gift cards are the preferred method of money transfer of scammers?
Grandmothers on 30k a year pensions often travel out of country to buy thousands in foreign gift cards.
Yet another way Democrats have scammed people out of money.
Seriously though, one has to wonder how many of these scams are there just to fund the DNC. The gift card scam is a common one, but there are others.
"China, Russia, Iran or Venezuela routed illicit money to Democrat candidates"
Now why would they do that? Trump is the Russian agent.
Wait till they find out that this organization steals peoples identities in order to launder large amounts of foreign "investment" by making political donations on those peoples behalf.
So city officials temporarily seized a south Brooklyn high school to use as a replacement migrant shelter, forcing students into remote learning.
There is no end in sight of sacrificing the kids at the altar of Zoom classroom.
Lunch is delivered by food trucks.
Hell, even most adults barely have the attention span to work-from-home. I can't imagine why anyone would think teenagers would.
Some adults like yourself don't have the attention span to even read comments correctly lol. See above.
Google's quantum computing division unveiled a new chip, dubbed Willow, that the tech giant says makes it infinitely faster and better...
...at race swapping our historical figures.
Race? Willow goes beyond that and swaps out species. Makes the signing of the Declaration infinitely more adorable.
“It’s got a knob that goes to 11”
President Joe Biden plans to formally block the $14.1 billion sale of United States Steel Corp. to Nippon Steel Corp...
Hurrying to get it blocked before Trump can get in there and [checks notes] also get it blocked.
I mean, that IS one way to prevent Trump from blocking the deal.
Biden only wanted 10% of the deal. What will Trump settle for?
Blowjob from a hooker? He isn't greedy.
Ah, the JFK-Clinton scheme.
Democrats did it first, so that makes it ok.
"This is not the follow list of a D.S.A. member or a Black Bloc agitator or a Molon Labe guy or a NEET schizoposter.
He literally screamed he was pursuing his truth and lived experience to media yesterday. That is an entirely leftist belief system.
..was pursuing his truth…
WTF
Here's the quote.
“it’s completely out of touch and an insult to the intelligence of the American people. It’s lived experience!”
One of New York's Black Lives Matter leaders decided to threaten Daniel Penny on his way out of the courtroom after Penny had been acquitted...
Look, if you know of a better way to extend your race grift beyond its relevancy, we're all ears.
I guess maintenance costs on the BLM mansions are ramping up.
As part of a plea agreement with prosecutors after he punched a 67-year-old woman in the street in 2021, Jordan Neely was given free access to stable housing and health care at a treatment facility in the Bronx. He abandoned the facility after 13 days.
You can't expect the modern ACLU to look into all the facts before chiming in.
A condo association in downtown San Francisco is suing over noise being emitted by pickleball players at a nearby court.
How did pickleball become a slow burn enemy number one?
Healthy seniors not MAIDing themselves is just wrong.
It's not even particularly noisy, just a kind of noise that people haven't been used to. Like when those clacker toys were popular with kids. Or like when itinerant musicians play a different ethnicity's music.
No, it's a particularly annoying noise, especially when nearby people are looking for quiet.
Shut your windows.
But what if I am a homeless guy "camping" in the park?
Don't live in a city if you want quiet.
Yeah, there’s no pickleball back here in the woods.
President Joe Biden plans to formally block the $14.1 billion sale of United States Steel Corp. to Nippon Steel Corp.
I work in the steel industry. US Steel is one of our clients. The economically illiterate people in the office are hailing this as a win. We'll see what they say in a year when all the US Steel contracts have dried up.
The thing Reason never mentions is Trump also talks about reducing their regulatory burden a lot.
We recently got a Cliffs contract for their Butler Works facility upgrade. (yes, Butler PA) It is an "environmental" upgrade, but 90% of it is being paid for by government grant money. All the big projects come from grant money. It's like when football teams build stadiums. They only do it when Uncle Sam is paying the bill.
War is coming. Steel demand will be hot.
Not much steel in drones.
I think currently they are firing 10,000+ arty shells a day combined in Ukraine. Plus all the armor that keeps getting blown up.
You can’t hold territory with drones.
No, but you can at least partially neutralize conventional weapons.
What are their contracts worth if they go under?
Whatever happened to all those NYC media critics who lectured us that the pharmacy, retail and grocery closures in SF were totally routine and not related to rampant crime?
HOW HAS TRUMP NOT FIXED THIS YET.
Let's just openly declare the Middle East as the permanent arena for proxy war games. We can even try to run it like pro sports, with some rules on team budgets, and with contracts for TV/media rights.
We can build a Colosseum like structure around the whole region.
Think of the jobs!
Both the initial construction and rebuilding after every episode!
'Interestingly, it's not just Floyd Bennett that will be shuttered, but 24 other shelters across the five boroughs, apparently because fewer migrants are flooding into the city and claiming a need for shelter.'
But once NYC declares itself a deportation sanctuary, the numbers should increase again.
'Interestingly, it's not just Floyd Bennett that will be shuttered, but 24 other shelters across the five boroughs, ..
Can’t they keep any industry going?
'So city officials temporarily seized a south Brooklyn high school to use as a replacement migrant shelter, forcing students into remote indoctrination.'
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A seismologist has to tell him there's no evidence of that.
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He looks like a guy with a bad back.
Sarc is already cyber stalking him.
Tall and well groomed….
Looks like a hot cop...
Tapper is a fucking retard, but I think that’s old news.
Oldy but goody
"...Jake Tapper wonders if Climate Change is making earthquakes stronger.
A seismologist has to tell him there's no evidence of that..."
Can Tapper be committed?
Is there even any evidence that earthquakes are stronger than in the past? I very much doubt it.
I saw one where a serious, professional journalist was asking if the apparent shrinking of the Red Spot storm on Jupiter was due to climate change, and what we should do about it.
As Mallace likes to say, our enemies are not impressive people.
"Google's quantum computing division unveiled a new chip, dubbed Willow, that the tech giant says makes it infinitely faster and better than existing supercomputers"
I don't think these people know what "infinite" means.
Time to class action them when it isn't infinitely faster.
In the world of conventional computing Lightmatter's photonics for for linear computations seems pretty cool.
"Oh, very well. 'Exponentially better', then."
So slower or faster depending on the sign.
Did I say "infinitely?" I meant "slightly."
+1
If it doesn't work and they are dividing by zero....
I think they meant 'indefinitely' or 'indeterminately'.
Also "better" is kinda suspect too. It's a bit of 'halting problem'. How do you know if you've piled enough error correction on to any given problem? Wait 10 septillion years for the conventional, higher-fidelity electronic machine to spit out the result.
There's an infinite number of "better than" values between 1x and 2x.
Literally!!!!
'One of New York's Black Lives Matter leaders decided to threaten Daniel Penny on his way out of the courtroom after Penny had been acquitted'
Vendetta!
'Jordan Neely deserved basic human rights: a safe place to live, enough to eat, and access to mental healthcare. He should still be alive today.
'It's time for New York leaders to seriously address the root drivers of homelessness and our chronic lack of mental health care.'
Fuck you, NYCLU, and your claims on my wealth and freedom to provide for your "rights".
Here's my proposal: since the root drivers for homelessness and mental illness are issues with the brains of homeless and mentally ill, we will cull them from society. Presto-chango! No more homeless.
^ +1
What's funny is for them to get what they want we'd have to undo their prior work and either jail or involuntarily confine Neely because he refuses to accept the things they demand he has.
A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy.
The best healthcare in the world won't stop people from making bad health choices. (i.e. fatass jeffy and drunky sarc)
If people would just voluntarily do the right thing, the government won’t have to force them to.
/jeff
Democracy!
"When people have the freedom to choose, they choose wrong. Every single time."
we hear the same argument about maternal mortality compared to other countries.
You know what is glaring about our maternal stats? The number of morbidly obese women, many of which have no prenatal care at all (which isnt expensive, but does require effort)
But thats not something they want to hear, because both involve personal responsibility and they cant blame "the system"
Maybe we should go third world and not count a birth until the fifth day of life?
It's been a while, but I read that the biggest difference with some numbers, like infant mortality, is how the outcomes are scored. For example, culling "non-viable" births makes infant mortality look better.
Meanwhile we go full court press, attempt to save the kid (whether they can pay or not), put them on ECMO in the NICU, and will still count it as a death even if the kid had next to no chance.
Plenty of countries would just call it non-viable after the fact and check it out: our numbers look great!
The best healthcare in the world won't stop people from making bad health choices.
Like getting shot?
Don't choose to be a young black male hanging out with other young black males.
You acutally think gun related homocides have a noticable effect on life expectancy?
For some demographics. See my comment.
No. Just a poor attempt at a joke about the assassination.
THERE’S NO JOKING HERE SIR!
Of course they do. Their impact is vastly disproportional because the average age at death is so young compared to natural deaths.
You mean joining a gang or robbing others? Maybe you're referring to the suicides.
I guess being an insurance executive will do it too.
I guess being an insurance executive will do it too.
Yes, this one.
In fact, it could well make people more likely to make bad health choices. Sort of like how safety features on cars result in people being less attentive drivers.
It's almost certainly the case and is pretty obvious retrospectively.
This is/was hinted at with the discussion about what insurance actually used to be and what mandates have made it.
If your doctor said "Get some sunshine and fresh air, eat right, exercise more, and lose some weight." for 20 yrs. on your medical history, and, after 20 yrs., you wound up underneath a heart surgeon's scalpel and he said "This guy should've been getting more sunshine and fresh air, eating right, exercising, and losing weight for the last 20 yrs., but it doesn't look like he's done a damned thing." and the insurance provider nods in assent and checks the "Do not pay." checkbox, people either learn to take care of their health or die.
Instead, we get panics about pandemics that aren't nearly as deadly as heart disease and get to spent tens-to-hundreds of thousands of dollars on vaccines, anti-retrovirals, and GLP-1 drugs that don't work as well as the fresh air, eating less, exercising more, and losing weight we should've been doing for free anyway.
'A condo association in downtown San Francisco is suing over noise being emitted by pickleball players at a nearby court.'
Exactly what noise do the players emit? Is this like the time in pro tennis when snobs complained about grunts?
Listening to people having fun during daylight hours is distracting from soap opera watching.
New soap opera script. Young hot never working adults find love on a pickle ball court.
I’m not so certain “young” and “hot” should go together with “pickleball court” unless one is considering 70 to be the new 25.
Have you seen the STD numbers at assisted living centers?
I’m not sure I want to know.
Gonorrhea is nothing to clap about, sonny
Hmmm. I think I saw this already, but it wasn't a soap opera and I wouldn't exactly call it "love."
holy fuck the dink-donk of all that plastic wrecks up my tennis center
'"President Joe Biden plans to formally block the $14.1 billion sale of United States Steel Corp. to Nippon Steel Corp. on national security grounds once the deal is referred back to him later this month, people familiar with the matter said," reports Bloomberg.'
Somebody tell Joe (or Jill) that the election is over.
Joe is just cock blocking trump.
Joe is asleep; we need to know who is acting as POTUS.
Looks like Jesse was unable to educate SGT on the wonder and beauty of tariffs over on the 'Tariff Man' thread.
Tell us Jesse about the benefits of Smoot-Hawley and how it got us out of the Great Depression. C'mon. Tell us how economists are all wrong about tariffs. Why do they all agree that tariffs are destructive? Are they all leftists? Are they all stupid? Are you smarter than every economist since the 1700s? Tell us how protectionist tariffs can protect industry without raising prices. Tell us how goods subsidized by foreign taxpayers are bad, and why our government must make them more expensive for our own good.
Educate us rubes on why raising the prices of imports with taxes makes our lives better.
TTTAAARRRIIIFFFSSSS!
You just want your cheap Chinese shit, be honest.
Cheap chinese hooch.
Maybe Sarc developed a taste for Tsingtao.
Sarc's developed a taste for Purell, acetone and Liquid-Plumr Pro-Strength, so Tsingtao is like a champagne.
I'll take this one: Yes.
I want the ability to buy the best value for my dollar. I don't need government programs transferring my wealth to other Americans, especially those within the government. I especially don't want to pay more for food and household consumables which feels double the price of what it was 4 years ago.
I've got that dickhole on mute because he has a long history of pretending to make good faith arguments only to descend into personal attacks when he's wrong, which is most of the time. So fuck him.
POST THE LIST!!!
Also Sarc is to Good Faith what Larry Flynt was to chastity.
HE IS ON THE LIST!!!!!
POST THE LIST!
Makes a personal attack in post crying about personal attacks.
Never change from being a raging hypocrite lol.
Wow, I made the list with Dlam.
Welcome to the club!
I’ll expect your payment in full for the membership fee.
I hate both of you.
🙂
What is it up to now, 100 quantaloos?
he has a long history of pretending to make good faith arguments only to descend into personal attacks when he's wrong,
I love when people who engage in personal attacks whine about others engaging in personal attacks. The fact that idiots reveal themselves as idiots if we just watch a bit is so satisfying.
Sarc is kind of entertaining that way. Were it not for double standards, I suspect he’d have no standards at all.
Speaking of people who can't make a comment without some attack or jibe...
Speaking of people who can't make a comment without some attack or jibe...
I presume this is a reference to yourself since you manage to attack the right even when the article itself is about the left. I see you've kept your perfect streak of never applying a standard you judge others by to yourself or your allies. What do you think you've made here, 250k comments? That's quite an impressive record. Congratulations.
Like yesterday when I stupidly attempted to have a good faith conversation with you and you couldn't resist attacking me in every comment?
And there we are with those wonderful “ideas” again.
It explains quite a bit that your memory is that poor since you never tried to have a good faith conversation. In reality you propagandized as usual, trying to pretend the Deep State actions of Covid censorship and the Russian Collusion and Hunter Laptop Hoaxes can be fairly described as "bureaucratic inertia". Ridiculous.
But you're the victim. You're just here to have good conversations, that's why even when the article in question criticizes someone on the left your first comment is an attack on the right-commenters.
Everyone's the hero of their own story, but some stories are more fantasy than reality to make this true.
Wow dude. That’s a whole lot of stuff I’ve never said. You do realize you’re accusing me of arguing in bad faith while telling me what I think and then arguing against it? Then you call me a hypocrite?
You do realize you’re accusing me of arguing in bad faith
The bad faith argument is amusing since you criticized me for always criticizing you, but literally every comment you make is a criticism. Again, literally no standard you apply to others do you ever apply to yourself.
That’s a whole lot of stuff I’ve never said.
Of course you did. Others and I made those points about Deep State actions and you claimed the Deep State is really just bureaucratic inertia. You like to play juvenile word games by moving between general and specific and in your mind this works. But in actual logic the specific can be substituted for the general, else your original assertion is wrong.
What you literally never do is debate the subject honestly. Not one single time in all your comments.
And I don't call you a hypocrite, you're a propagandist.
Awe, poor sarc. He just wants to have good faith conversations.
Uh, sure. I am sure people in Europe still buying Russian petroleum products feel the same way.
I'm sure they do. Still, I think sanctions are easier to justify than tariffs. The national security argument holds more weight with nations at war.
How? Inability to buy is much harsher than a slight increase on cost.
Also, as Manu have been pointing out for weeks... show the correlation between tariff policy and inflation. Things like supply shift, domestic supply increases, etc all have effects, not just tariffs.
And finally regulatory costs dwarf tariff costs, yet you seem to be in the sarc/boehm boat that only tariffs effect costs.
You're arguing out of both sides of your mouth here.
On the one side you say that we need tariffs to raise the prices of things beyond what people are willing to pay in order to punish foreigners and protect domestic businesses, then out of the other side you say it's no big deal just a slight increase in cost.
Can't have it both ways. Well, you can, but that just makes you a dishonest piece of excrement that will say anything to defend Trump. Which you are. So, never mind.
How retarded did you dri k yourself today? Why are you unable to comprehend more than a bumper sticker? Which part confused you?
How? Inability to buy is much harsher than a slight increase on cost.
Policies can differ for nations at war vs. nations at peace as part of the government's function to protect national security. That's not to say I approve of all or even these sanctions.
And finally regulatory costs dwarf tariff costs, yet you seem to be in the sarc/boehm boat that only tariffs effect costs.
Trump wants to increase tariff costs: BAD!
Trump wants to reduce regulatory costs: GOOD!
Now I'm on record as acknowledging regulatory costs and opposing excessive regulations. I'd guess the same can be said for Sarc and maybe even Boehm. I assume we agree on this so we don't need to talk about that anymore, I hope. Can we talk about tariffs now?
Now I'm on record as acknowledging regulatory costs and opposing excessive regulations. I'd guess the same can be said for Sarc and maybe even Boehm. I assume we agree on this so we don't need to talk about that anymore, I hope. Can we talk about tariffs now?
Yes, the same could said. I've said it many, many times. But once Jesse latches onto a lie he's like a pit bull. He doesn't let go. So I highly doubt he will talk honestly about tariffs, because lying and claiming that critics of tariffs ignore regulatory costs is his favorite deflection.
Duly noted.
Lol. No you haven't. Why do you lie?
I've said it before and I'll say it right now. Regulations that unnecessarily raise costs are bad. Reigning in regulations that do nothing but raise costs is good. I've said that hundreds of times.
And tomorrow you'll again lie and claim I ignore regulatory costs.
When did "Europe" declare war on Russia?
Declare war? Quaint idea.
Clever switch you made there. Changing cost to value when they are different.
Product A 10 dollars 50% reliability.
Product B 15 dollars 90% reliability.
Cost winner Product A
Value winner Product B ($5 value with risk adjustment $13.5 value with risk adjustment; if you buy Product A twice to get something working it costs more; cost can be delta between cost and value estimate. )
Another way to estimate the above is cost / reliability. Again, if you have to buy 2 of product A for a working product, it costs more.
Clever switch you made there. Changing cost to value when they are different.
The joke's on you. I'm not that clever. I may have been sloppy with my language, but my point stands.
Product A 10 dollars 50% reliability.
Product B 15 dollars 90% reliability.
Cost winner Product A
Value winner Product B ($5 value with risk adjustment $13.5 value with risk adjustment; if you buy Product A twice to get something working it costs more; cost can be delta between cost and value estimate. )
What's this have to do with tariffs? Are all domestic good a better value than all foreign goods and Trump will coerce me to make the right decision?
You just pulled a bunch of #'s out of your ass like they mean something. Yeah, sometimes US goods are a better value than China junk even though they're more expensive. Sometimes they're a worse value. Sometimes I can't afford the better value. Sometimes domestic alternatives don't even exist.
Your comment was discussing costs not tariffs.
Not sure why you're backing up to a different discussion point.
If you want to talk about tariffs again, I'm tired of giving a clear example of a consumer benefit from a retaliatory benefit.
When Trump raised China tariffs in 2018 until they cracked down on theft, they complied. Current theft from China is roughly 10x more than the tariffs nationally. Those costs raise domestic prices as IRAD costs get distributed on number of goods sold. Increased security costs are an added cost into the cost of everything sold.
Allowing others to steal so you can get something cheaper actually raises average coats and reduces incentive for future R&D as more money is spent on protection and recouping losses from theft than product design.
If someone stole your t.v. and sold it back to you at cost, that's not a free market action. Yet when China steals from others and imposes costs on others, some of you pretend it is free market.
Apparently only costs to you matter, not costs born by those you buy from through bad acts. That's not a free market.
Your comment was discussing costs not tariffs.
??? Seriously?
When Trump raised China tariffs in 2018 until they cracked down on theft, they complied. Current theft from China is roughly 10x more than the tariffs nationally.
So in other words. Tariffs 1.0 didn't work. That tracks with what I've read.
If someone stole your t.v. and sold it back to you at cost, that's not a free market action. Yet when China steals from others and imposes costs on others, some of you pretend it is free market.
As opposed to when the government steals from me in the form or a tariff tax and gives it someone else?
Apparently only costs to you matter, not costs born by those you buy from through bad acts.
The burden of proof is on you that tariffs will correct this problem and not be more costly. So far, I'm nowhere near convinced.
Wonderful defense of slave labor there.
Thanks.
I'm curious. When you're shopping, how do you determine which goods were produced with slave labor?
Also, do you ever worry whether the barely paid laborers will be even worse off if you don't buy the goods they made?
When you're shopping, how do you determine which goods were produced with slave labor?
I've wondered that myself, since I'm often accused of supporting slave labor when I criticize tariffs.
Also, do you ever worry whether the barely paid laborers will be even worse off if you don't buy the goods they made?
That's a good point. Capitalism is the best tool for bringing people out of poverty and giving them the resources to rid themselves of corrupt regimes. Slapping protective tariffs on goods made by poverty stricken people living under oppressive regimes is a really great way to prevent them from lifting themselves out of poverty and becoming wealthy enough to demand better government.
Personally, I make a strong effort to NOT buy things manufactured in China. That by itself tends to avoid a lot of the slave-made goods.
Fair. Also a lot of junk.
But don't you find often there is no other option? Plus, even domestically produced goods are often made with Chinese components.
No. I've never found that.
Sometimes. But then I often just don't buy whatever it was I thought I wanted. I'm at an age and position where I'm not buying stuff all the time, so I guess I'm one of those "What do you get for the guy who's got everything?" people. I beg family to just skip presents for me, or at least just go with something like a bottle of whiskey...I don't need or want more "stuff".
A very few things do seem like there's not much alternative, like iPhone. I bite that bullet.
Sounds like you have your life and priorities straight. Respect.
I want the ability to buy the best value for my dollar.
Once again--there is absolutely no correlation between tariff rates and inflation rates. Zero. In fact, after Smoot-Hawley passed, massive DE-flation took place. The inflation of the mid-70s to early 80s shows tariff rates below 10% the entire time.
You don't need to be a professor or have a degree in quantum economics for this one. If you add a tax on items, those items will cost more. It's not technically inflation, just exactly the same to the consumer.
Trumpenomics: While you suffer increased prices, reduced buying power, socialistic economic planning, wealth transfer and added market inefficiencies, be comforted that none of that is technically inflation.
You don't need to be a professor to know that there's no correlation between inflation rates and tariff rates, no matter how much you want to whine about the cost of goods.
Tariffs don't cause inflation. That's an empirical fact that's easily proven by comparing the two rates over decades and decades.
Liberal-tariannomics: "We'll claim this is going to cause prices to increase even though it's never happened in the country's entire history. Trust us, bro!"
no matter how much you want to whine about the cost of goods.
Have you considered why people don't like inflation?
Have you considered that your claim that inflation is tied to tariffs is a load of shit?
What claim are you referring to?
In fact, after Smoot-Hawley passed, massive DE-flation took place.
You can't be serious. You want to invoke Smoot-Hawley as your defense for tariffs? Anyone? Anyone? Smoot-Hawley is chided as a disaster by historians. Smoot-Hawley passed at the beginning of the Great Depression, which explains the deflation, don't you think?
So the tariffs didn't actually make the situation worse, it was already bad.
Yes, things were already bad. I'll be generous and agree there is very little we can learn from Smoot-Hawley because the situation doesn't apply to today.
Doesn't everybody?
I'm not saying the whole situation is ideal, particularly with China not exactly being an ally. But everyone benefits, at least short term, a fair bit from the availability of inexpensive manufactured goods.
No. Not at any expense.
I don't buy from thieves just because it is cheaper. I don't buy from slave using businesses if I'm aware of it.
Cost is not the only economic concern.
Likewise I won't utilize a cost judgement against risk. Ie paying someone cheap who will deliver shit or not deliver at all.
There are many other considerations that add into the true cost of an item.
I don't buy from thieves just because it is cheaper. I don't buy from slave using businesses if I'm aware of it.
Good for you. Too bad you can't just keep that to yourself and instead insist that everyone be forced to pay more in the form of tariffs because they don't share your concerns.
Thanks sarc. You admit you want to buy from China who imposes costs on others through theft while calling it a free market. Sure china openly violates trade policy, markets, the NAP, etc. But if you can buy shit cheaper, fuck the others facing costs from it.
You're a real libertarian there lol.
Similar to your views of government. They can do unconstitutional things to others through 3rd parties as long as you're not affected.
Everything you believe is ignoring costs to others. No matter how anti libertarian it is. It is hilarious.
Is that what the voices in your head tell you?
Are these the “ideas” you talk about?
He wants anything cheaper, even if at the expense of slaves or theft.
And he wants it only in one direction. Ask him to define free trade again.
I see that no matter how many times you read anything longer than a bumper sticker, you still wont comprehend it.
You keep going straight back to protective tariffs which you know I dont support. You can't help yourself. You're too dumb to understand. And too pathological not to lie. Lol.
You keep going straight back to protective tariffs which you know I dont support
Trump wants across-the-board protective tariffs ranging from, depending on which quote you want to use, 10% to 60%. You attack anyone who criticizes Trump's proposed protective tariffs. Thus you defend protective tariffs. If you don't support protective tariffs, why do you defend them with attacks on anyone who criticizes them?
Cite me doing so buddy? I can start linking to me literally telling you I don't have an issue with retaliatory tariffs but don't support protective ones. So you lie. You do so intentionally.
As far as Trump, if you listened past the Jen Psaki summary you would understand those tariffs are the baseline starting point until other countries reduce their tariffs. But as usual you are too ignorant and too leftist to get past the MSNBC narratives.
Please define free trade again. Always makes me laugh.
Protective tariffs are meant to protect domestic companies from competition. You say you oppose protective tariffs, then you list off things that domestic companies can't compete with and demand tariffs to make it fair. Just like you claim that free trade has to be fair to be free, and demand tariffs to make it fair. And you always go on the attack when people criticize the blanket protective tariffs that Trump says he wants.
While you claim to oppose protective tariffs, you sure spend a lot of time promoting them, defending them, and attacking anyone who criticizes them.
So it looks to me like you are lying or you don't know what you're talking about. Or both. Most likely both.
Poor sarc.
"...Jordan Neely deserved basic human rights: a safe place to live, enough to eat, and access to mental healthcare. He should still be alive today..."
Those are not rights. He had the right to find employment and buy those goods, but assholes like you, LBJ and his parents convinced he and others of the 'victim class' that he was supposed to get those economic goods without earning them
"Earning" is white privilege!
Killing yourself through bad decisions is a universal right.
Well that's true. As is getting yourself killed for being a dangerous crazy person.
As I often say: there are lots of things that should happen that don't happen.
And I couldn't agree more on rights. There is no such thing as a right that forces other people to give you shit.
"There is no such thing as a right that forces other people to give you shit."
Democrats, the left, socialists: "We staunchly disagree"
That's just an argument over the definition of the word.
"This was the very same shoddily constructed shelter that, when severe rains came in January of this year, could not withstand the weather. So city officials temporarily seized a south Brooklyn high school to use as a replacement migrant shelter, forcing students into remote learning."
So NYC can set aside building codes AND fund $6B for illegal aliens, but FEMA is out of money and NC building code enforcers won't allow people to live in Amish-build "tiny houses" after a hurricane and floods wiped their towns off the map?
Are you just catching on to how government works?
Immigrants good, white hicks bad.
>>Softer Image?
surprised your colleagues side with the terrorists?
>>New York city officials announced the closure of the massive migrant tent shelter that sits on federal land at Floyd Bennett Field
and blamed it on FutureTrump lol. nice play.
>>there's not really much of a conflict of rights here, but I do think pickleball is a fake sport.
too fucking loud to not be an ac/dc concert and no it is not a sport it is a game.
United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart.
^When you're such a cryptography ninja that you don't even know what the word "indecipherable" means.
How do you know he didn't write that one word in some kind of cipher?
Even Softer Image:
Janet Reno in lingerie
"Rosanne Barr naked: GONE!"
C'mon man, no one needs that image in their head.
Rosie O’Donnell singing to her cold soar.
She’s very stressed, doncha know…
Rosie is fat.
Although, I think she's too old for Jeffy.
It has also entered the Golan Heights and seized military posts there
Fake news. Israel was already holding the Golan Heights. Israel's "invasion" amounts to Israeli troops entering Israeli territory that was being monitored by the UN per an agreement with the Syrian government that no longer exists.
Nope. They have crossed over from the territory they arleady stole from Syria into more of it. Maybe check a few news sources before you spout falsehoods.
you goto news sources to not find falsehoods?
"By yesterday's end, Israel had launched over 350 airstrikes at military sites across Syria, "taking out the Navy, fighter jets, drones, tanks, air-defense systems, weapons plants and a wide array of missiles and rockets,"
Yep the terrorist state of Israel once again priving the terrorist group of the IDF is still a terrorist group.
Terrorism usually strikes at civilians..
Ah, yes, "terrorism" famously is when one country's uniformed military strikes an enemy country's explicitly military assets, openly, in accordance with the long-established laws and usages of war, during an ongoing war, said war having been explicitly and formally declared well in advance of the strike, by the enemy country whose military assets were struck.
A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy.
You can see here how he was influenced by propaganda. Life expectancy is disproportionately driven by young deaths of which we have many more due to drug use, gang violence, car accidents, and our eating / exercise habits.
Leftists want to blame too little spending and too little government control but in reality it is people's choices that drive the outcome.
"Why cant we have a life expectancy like XYZ Scandinavian country?!?!"
"Well, they are a more homogenous population with pretty great genetics in terms of health outcomes, they have better diet/exercise habits, and they murder each other and do drugs in lesser amounts. Oh and btw we are actively importing an underclass of low socioeconomic status migrants that have all of the above problems"
"...so its the universal healthcare, got it"
Basically. Plus the left / Public health industry creates propaganda statistics to justify their preferences. For example the WHO ranks countries' healthcare systems based on either 4 or 5 criteria, I forget which. But all except one are in part or whole judging "who pays" and not health outcomes because ultimately that's all left wingers care about.
"This was the very same shoddily constructed shelter that, when severe rains came in January of this year, could not withstand the weather. So city officials temporarily seized a south Brooklyn high school to use as a replacement migrant shelter, forcing students into remote learning."
I hadn't heard about that before now. How was this not news? Lots of hotels have been converted to migrant shelters, but to close a school for them? Damn!
Here's a highlight from the linked article:
"Because Floyd Bennett is a historic airway, the city was not able to drive stakes into the ground"
The crappy government policies just compound on each other.
On Luigi, my prediction is that he either is, or his defense will claim him to be, schizophrenic. It commonly sets in around his age and could explain such bizarre behavior.
I've never been clear on why schizophrenia is considered to be a mitigating factor in criminal actions. To me the fact that one was not rational at the time he committed a violent crime would make the person more dangerous to society, not less dangerous. The fact that there is no cure for schizophrenia and that most schizophrenics eventually go off their meds from time to time would be an argument for the death penalty in this case rather than absolving him of the crime because he couldn't tell right from wrong.
"would be an argument for the death penalty in this case rather than absolving him of the crime because he couldn't tell right from wrong."
The only 2 logical options would be death penalty vs life in a mental institution. You cant acknowledge that the person is essentially a ticking time bomb who has proven to kill people, and then do anything other than deal with the threat.
That's an interesting question and I find the argument you make fairly persuasive. If someone is incapable of controlling themselves, or of knowing right from wrong, it does seem like that person needs to be removed from society even more urgently than someone who commits a murder for a very specific reason that makes sense. Not that the latter case doesn't also deserve a very severe sentence.
please don't use MSM euphemisms intended to demonize firearms. your section header "The ideology of a shooter" is exactly that. "The ideology of a murderer" or "The ideology of an assassin" would be more accurate & focus on the violent criminal act & not the largely irrelevant means by which it was carried out.