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Ukraine

Belated Loosening of Restrictions on Ukraine Leaves World Stumbling Towards Greater Danger

Ukrainians may be too exhausted to benefit from the new rules.

J.D. Tuccille | 11.25.2024 7:00 AM

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It's sometimes possible to forget in a chaotic world, but Russia's invasion of Ukraine drags on, as does Ukraine's defense against its aggressor. Overlooking that ongoing and bloody conflict is unfortunate since recent developments have heightened tensions between Russia and its allies on the one hand, and the U.S. and NATO on the other. Not least of these developments is the exiting Biden administration's belated decision to let Ukraine use American missiles against targets in Russia—leaving an exhausted Ukraine, the new Trump administration, and the world to deal with the consequences.

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Escalation After Escalation

"President Biden has authorized the first use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine for strikes inside Russia," Adam Entous, Eric Schmitt, and Julian E. Barnes of The New York Times reported last week. "The weapons are likely to be initially employed against Russian and North Korean troops in defense of Ukrainian forces in the Kursk region of western Russia, the officials said."

The U.S. is also providing previously withheld antipersonnel mines.

The mention of North Korean troops refers to a prior escalation as North Korea dispatched thousands of combat troops to Russia to assist its ally's war of aggression. Ukraine promptly took advantage of the loosened reins by striking a Russian military base with U.S.-made ATACMS missiles. Russia then upped the ante again with use of a nuclear-capable ballistic missile, threats to actually use nuclear weapons, and indications that it might strike an American military base in Poland. That last would be an explicit attack on NATO and require response by all its members.

Which is to say that the nasty, grinding, two-and-a-half-year-old invasion of Ukraine not only shows no end in sight but appears on the verge of spreading. And it's heating up at a time when the United States is in the process of transition from a lame-duck president of questionable mental capacity to a new administration which won't take office until January.

Belated Permission To Strike Back

Part of this timing can be laid on the Biden administration. Since Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022, that country's President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and other officials have begged for weapons and—as important—permission to use them as they see necessary. Instead, the U.S. and other western nations have selectively supplied arms, with hobbling restrictions on how and where they can be used.

"Mr Zelensky's frustration is understandable," The Economist observed in September. "In international law, the right of self-defence allows strikes on positions from which the aggressor's attacks are launched or enabled." The Economist added, "the real reason for Mr Biden's reluctance is almost certainly fear of Russian escalation. Yet so many supposed Russian red lines have been crossed that Mr Putin's warnings have lost much of their power."

The result has been that Russia has largely been able to use threats of escalation and even of attacks on the West to define the terms by which Ukraine gets to defend itself. That's guaranteed a war that drags on, in which Ukrainians are encouraged to continue fighting but not allowed the means to do their best.

Nobody To Manage the Crisis

To finally loosen restrictions now that badly aging Joe Biden's chosen successor, Vice President Kamala Harris, has lost the election and the federal establishment is preparing for new civilian leadership and different policies, is bizarre. It feeds heightened international tensions when America is in a poor position to manage a new (or growing) crisis.

That leaves Europe and the rest of NATO to handle the conflict on its eastern border. The rest of NATO, to put it mildly, isn't really up to the job.

"The British military—the leading U.S. military ally and Europe's biggest defense spender—has only around 150 deployable tanks and perhaps a dozen serviceable long-range artillery pieces," Max Colchester, David Luhnow, and Bojan Pancevski of The Wall Street Journal reported last December. "France, the next biggest spender, has fewer than 90 heavy artillery pieces, equivalent to what Russia loses roughly every month on the Ukraine battlefield. Denmark has no heavy artillery, submarines or air-defense systems. Germany's army has enough ammunition for two days of battle."

NATO leadership is well aware of this problem, noting last month that "the combined wealth of the non-US Allies, measured in GDP, is almost equal to that of the United States. However, non-US Allies together spend less than half of what the United States spends on defence."

President-elect Donald Trump has made an issue of this mismatch, bluntly threatening to refuse to defend countries that don't meet military-funding obligations. That might be quite a trick with neighbor Canada, potentially the worst freeloader of the bunch; in an assessment leaked to The Washington Post, Pentagon analysts say Prime Minister Justin Trudeau told NATO officials his country "will never" spend NATO's required 2 percent of GDP on defense.

But even if Trump successfully prods European allies to take more responsibility for dealing with threats on their own continent, that's months and years in the future. In the meantime, tensions are rising with a caretaker administration in Washington, D.C. and hollow militaries among most NATO nations.

Ukrainians May Be Too Exhausted To Benefit

Perhaps the people growing most tired of a war that drags on, consuming soldiers who are hobbled in how and where they strike the enemy, are Ukrainians.

"Ukrainians have grown increasingly skeptical of quick accessions to NATO and the EU," finds Gallup, which sees "rising fatigue with the war and strains on Ukraine's relationships with key allies in the West."

Importantly, "an average of 52% of Ukrainians would like to see their country negotiate an end to the war as soon as possible," according to the polling firm. By contrast, "nearly four in 10 Ukrainians (38%) believe their country should keep fighting until victory." That's down from the beginning of the war, when 73 percent wanted to fight until Ukraine had won.

Encouraging Ukrainians to fight, but with their hands tied, for two-and-a-half years has ground down the country's people, wealth, and will. The Biden administration waited not just for an inopportune moment in terms of domestic politics to loosen restrictions on Ukraine's defense efforts; it waited so long that Ukrainians might no longer be in a position to benefit from the changed rules.

Whether or not Ukraine can take advantage of loosened strictures, or Europeans are ready to contain the conflict to their east, the war in Ukraine is escalating. We're stumbling towards greater danger.

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  1. The Iconoclast   6 months ago

    The President of the United States is non compos mentis. We don't even know who's running the country or who issued the order. Was it Obama? Blinken? Done during the lame duck session after an election where their side has been roundly defeated, it feels more like the Democrats just said fuck it we lost so let's go ahead and start WWIII.

    1. JohnZ   6 months ago

      We know who's running the country...the Deep State and they work through the White House using their minions installed by Obama.
      John Bolton and Mike Pompeo must be dancing with joy at the prospect of a world war.

    2. Alberto Balsalm   6 months ago

      , it feels more like the Democrats just said fuck it we lost so let’s go ahead and start WWIII.

      Agreed. What the actual fuck?!. The party that was so against the gulf/afgan war(s) now can't even contain their warboners.

      1. soldiermedic76   6 months ago

        There anti-war stance was always about anti-Americanism. Look at every war in the 20th century, except the Gulf War. Which party was in office when those wars were started? Yeah. They've never been against war, but it was useful to pretend they were for awhile.

  2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   6 months ago

    Just remember orange man is the dangerous one

    1. Thoritsu   6 months ago

      Indeed.

  3. Chumby   6 months ago

    Escalating into a continental then global conflict between nuclear powers may only benefit mentally ill warboners and MIC profiteers.

  4. Gaear Grimsrud   6 months ago

    So the problem isn't that the Biden regime has done everything in their power to prevent a negotiated settlement. The problem is they waited too long to engineer a nuclear conflict. That's some bold libertarianism right there.

  5. Vernon Depner   6 months ago

    There was never any possibility that Ukraine would defeat the Russian armed forces. The only question now is whether a settlement will be negotiated in time to save some of Ukraine, or if Russia will wipe Ukraine off the map with WMDs.

    1. CountmontyC   6 months ago

      War could have been prevented if weapons had been sent before Russia was ready to invade. Enough weapons that it would have said that even if Russia did win it would be incredibly costly to do so. But the Biden Maladministration dicked around until it was too late and then only gave enough weapons so Ukraine lost more slowly.

      1. Overt   6 months ago

        There is no amount of weapons that would have stopped Russia from finishing this war. The idea that the US could have deterred Putin from this prize is fantasy. Upwards of 200,000 Russians have been killed, and another half million wounded. Thousands of vehicles, dozens of aircraft and multiple naval assets have been destroyed. Putin hasn't blinked, he has continued going forward, because he has millions of people and the resources of his kleptocratic state at his hand, and Ukraine only represents a fraction of that.

        There is no indication that some sort of "More Decisive" show of force from NATO would have done anything to deter this man. He continues to think he can prevail, even if that means using Nuclear weapons, and he would have thought so 2 years ago if Ukraine had been more aggressively armed.

        This armchair general BS analysis is exactly why Ukraine is a smoking killzone right now. Thousands of "Experts" with no skin in the game insisting that if they can just rattle the sabre a bit more, and tempt fate a bit harder, they'll suddenly get Putin to "come to his senses." It isn't going to happen, because BOTH SIDES ARE FUCKING DELUDED, and think their fantastical reality will result in the other side backing down.

  6. Mickey Rat   6 months ago

    And this is the situation you get when trying to half-ass your way through a crisis. Your likely result is not the best results between doing nothing and going all in, but the worst of both. The people in charge think they are cleverer than they are

  7. Thoritsu   6 months ago

    100% to make it hard for Trump with Ukraine to pull a "Reagan on Jimmy Carter" with Iran. Just make a mess before turning over the steering wheel. If there was ever evidence of malfeasance, this is it.

    1. sarcasmic   6 months ago

      Biden's strategy has been to keep the war going in order to bleed Russia. There was never any intention to end it. So it wouldn't at all surprise me if his administration causes it to escalate right before he leaves office in order to frustrate any efforts by Trump to get a peace deal.

      1. JohnZ   6 months ago

        It isn't Biden's strategy, it's the strategy of the deep state and the scum inside the white House.
        Senile ole Joe has no strategy except to s*** his pants.

        1. sarcasmic   6 months ago

          Sorry, I forget that the lizard people really run the show.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   6 months ago

            If Joe is too senile to stand trial for his documents case, then who is running the Executive Branch, Sarc? Even Jimmy Carter complained about being stymied by the career bureaucrats there.

            1. jimc5499   6 months ago

              In 1986 I witnessed a State Department employee state that he didn't care about the orders of a "four year hack in the White House", that he would do what he thought was right.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 months ago

                If Musk and Ramy are looking to clean house, I can't think of a better place to start than State.

                1. soldiermedic76   6 months ago

                  Uhm, yeah States always been fucked. I was going to say DoD on line one, but you're right, states always been fucked.

      2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   6 months ago

        Took you long enough to see the issues instead of whining about people criticizing him and his administration.

        sarcasmic
        September.15.2021 at 5:51 pm
        Flag Comment Mute User
        He’s a bird, singing to his potential conservative mates. Give him a break. Saying “Fuck Joe Biden” on these comments is his only chance of getting laid.

        1. sarcasmic   6 months ago

          “Fuck Joe Biden” isn’t criticism of him or his administration. It’s a mating call for you and your fellow poo-flinging chimps.

          Interesting that you see it that way though. Just more projection from a tribal moron who already whines and cries whenever anyone slights Trump, his troop of Trumpanzies, or his administration.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   6 months ago

            Ideas?

            1. Alberto Balsalm   6 months ago

              truth

          2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   6 months ago

            Seethe harder you drunk bitch. It’s Trumpin’ time!

            1. Alberto Balsalm   6 months ago

              You can have a lolly pop
              A candy bar, a jelly bean
              I'll buy you a rainbow to hang above your door
              It's trumpin' time
              Laughter is a sweet you can't put a price on
              When laughter's all gone, Daddy won't buy you more
              It's trumpin' time, children
              Money, money, money to buy you things
              Daddy's gonna buy you a diamond ring
              Trumpty Dumpty sat on a wall!
              Trumpty Dumpty had a great fall!
              All kings horses and all the kings men
              Couldn't put Trumpty together again!
              San Francisco the striped bass are dying
              But you're gonna get that brand new bike
              Oh joy
              It's trumping time
              It's trumping time, children!!!
              Trumping time, children

  8. CLM1227   6 months ago

    The complete and utter denial of the current state of western military capabilities coupled with a seemingly maniacal hatred of Russia that results in severe underestimation has led the Ukraine to serious losses that will take decades to recover from.

    War is supposed to be a sober endeavor. Not some headstrong, emotionally charged temper tantrum. Our foolishness is hurting the Ukraine and they would have been better off negotiating in 2022 than having Americans and NATO consign multi-billion dollars worth of charity to have Ukrainians slaughtered.

  9. Jerry B.   6 months ago

    "...the exiting Biden administration's belated decision to let Ukraine use American missiles against targets in Russia—leaving an exhausted Ukraine, the new Trump administration, and the world to deal with the consequences."

    For Democrats, feature - not bug.

  10. JohnZ   6 months ago

    Biden, of course did not make that decision. Instead, it was made by the deep state through their minions in the White House. Senile ole Joe couldn't decide which depends to wear let alone make such a stupid decision. Joehas made a lot of stupid decisions in his life and as Obama once stated," f*** things up"
    The following disaster will be placed squarely on Joe Biden though.
    The idea that a senile failing old man could be placed in the White House without undo consequences has damaged America and has placed the rest of the world in danger.
    Some speculation this was done deliberately to either halt the transition of Trump's new administration or out of sheer hatred for the Russians.
    Those who actually made the decision to allow Ukraine to use those missiles need to face the consequences.

    1. Chumby   6 months ago

      Correct. If Brandon wasn’t allowed to run for reelection, he probably didn’t make this call either. Though I believe the pants shitter supports this.

    2. Kungpowderfinger   6 months ago

      Maybe these sons of whores realize that now’s the time to launch and re-order Lockheed Martin’s fucking missiles, before it’s too late.

      The market for weapons of mass destruction supplied by the US is looking down next year.

  11. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   6 months ago

    "...Encouraging Ukrainians to fight, but with their hands tied, for two-and-a-half years has ground down the country's people, wealth, and will. The Biden administration waited not just for an inopportune moment in terms of domestic politics to loosen restrictions on Ukraine's defense efforts; it waited so long that Ukrainians might no longer be in a position to benefit from the changed rules..."

    We have no dog in this fight; quit using US taxpayer money to equip the Ukrainians.
    And get out of NATO now; the Europeans have reason to dread Russia; we don't. Let THEM finance THEIR defense.
    Fuck Joe Biden with Tuccilles dick

    1. Kungpowderfinger   6 months ago

      …waited so long that Ukrainians might no longer be in a position to benefit from the changed rules

      “Rules”?

      I think the writer meant something more along the lines of “whatever Biden’s handlers, the MIC, and the corrupt Ukrainian government have decided they can get away with right now”

    2. JohnZ   6 months ago

      I agree. get U.S. out of NATO
      North
      Atlantic
      Terrorist
      Organization

  12. lwt1960   6 months ago

    The US/EU is engaged in a cynical proxy war strategy to sacrifice the lives and treasure of its "allies" to weaken an adversary. Problem is Russia is not a democracy and Putin can absorb the losses, so the future status quo is just whatever is left after this needless destruction for both sides and the West continuing to dangle the carrot of EU and NATO membership in front of Ukraine to keep them on our side, absorbing future punches from Russia (and keep supplying wheat to much of the world). Not much different than what we're doing in Israel, but the Israelis are prepared and able to go it alone. Trump seems to understand strength is a deterrent to conflict, whereas weaknesses is an invitation.

  13. Gaear Grimsrud   6 months ago

    Wait JD. Maybe it's not too late for your warboner.
    https://news.antiwar.com/2024/11/22/report-us-and-european-officials-discussed-giving-ukraine-nuclear-weapons/
    Report: US and European Officials Discussed Giving Ukraine Nuclear Weapons

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   6 months ago

      On the other hand this could be a setback for you and your Bulwark buddies.
      https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/another-nationalist-upset-right-wing-nato-critic-wins-first-round-romanian-election
      In the continuation of well-established trend observed across Western democracies, yet another populist, nationalist, right-wing candidate has posted an election result that far exceeded what polls indicated he was capable of. The latest upset took place in Romania on Sunday, and it has positioned a NATO critic and Ukraine war skeptic to potentially take over the country's presidency.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 months ago

        It's almost like people are getting sick of the top-down enforcement of the post-Cold War left-liberal New World Order consensus, and are pushing back on it however they can.

  14. Jim Logajan   6 months ago

    According to sources I read in commentaries here and elsewhere, the U.S. Military Industrial Complex and Deep State are responsible for all the violent conflicts around the globe. It appears they do it for money and power.

    According to commentators and bloviators with inside knowledge that they don't actually detail, the MIC made (via its tentacles of power) Ukraine appear to want to join NATO (which actually denies them entry) so as to goad that helpless schmuck Putin (who thinks he is the second coming of Peter the Great) into attacking in the most stupid way. Poor misunderstood guy.

    Meanwhile the Ruble to US Dollar exchange rate is plummeting since the beginning of September (likely along with the Russian economy):
    https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=USD
    The Ruble is even collapsing against the Ukrainian Hryvnia, which ain't doing so well either:
    https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=UAH&view=1Y

    Compare the two country's year exchange rates over the last 5 years:
    https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=RUB&to=USD&view=5Y
    https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=UAH&to=USD&view=5Y

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 months ago

      According to sources I read in commentaries here and elsewhere, the U.S. Military Industrial Complex and Deep State are responsible for all the violent conflicts around the globe. It appears they do it for money and power.

      What the fuck do you think global superpowers do? The whole point of these interventions is to maintain their apex position. You really think we fomented a color revolution in 2014 for “democracy”? Get the fuck out of here.

      I mean, it's not like we spent 20 years dumping money down a black hole in Afghanistan that didn't accomplish shit other than line contractor pockets.

      Meanwhile the Ruble to US Dollar exchange rate is plummeting since the beginning of September (likely along with the Russian economy):

      Yeah, we’ve been hearing these “Russia’s economy is on the verge of collapse!” stories ever since the war kicked off. It’s like you idiots don’t think they have their own alliances and resources to draw from.

      1. Incunabulum   6 months ago

        The Russian economy is going to collapse any day now, The hospitals in Gaza had 'only 36 hours of fuel left' for months, etc . . .

      2. Chumby   6 months ago

        Russia ran out of missiles in the first few days and since sanctions have had to get microchips out of washing machines.

      3. JohnZ   6 months ago

        That's true but...the CIA is responsible for the troubles.
        The goal of the CIA is to keep the MIC fat and happy

      4. Overt   6 months ago

        You would think that since the epic failures in Iraq and Afghanistan, these armchair generals would learn a little fucking humility. And yet here we are again, moving those chess pieces around the board, with clinical terms like "deterrence" and "reasonable escalation" as they flush an entire region of Eastern Europe down the damn toilet.

        I feel for Ukraine- I really do. But I have no sympathy for these shitheads who keep trying to tell us that this time their master plan will work, without an ounce of contrition that they are playing with the lives of real people.

    2. soldiermedic76   6 months ago

      Russia is a resource rich, especially in resources that are vital to modern economies (oil, gold, heavy metals, not to mention agricultural goods). They are not going broke any time soon. Hell, we’ve been trying to make Iran go broke since 1979, hasn’t worked yet, because when you have oil, you always have an out economically. Fuck. Also, read what happens when embargoes actually force a country to face bankruptcy. I’ll give you a point to start with, spring and summer of 1941, western Pacific.

    3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   6 months ago

      Wait until Trump u does all of Biden’s energy related EO’s. That should push petroleum futures down and cripple Russia’s ability to finance their war machine.

  15. DeAnnP   6 months ago

    If Putin goes back into his own country then the problem is solved.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 months ago

      LOL, yeah, we know, you're one of those idiots who think Vicky Nuland and Robert Kagan should get their Black Sea condo in the Crimea back.

      1. JohnZ   6 months ago

        Fat and ugly and his wife too.

    2. soldiermedic76   6 months ago

      Are you willing to fight to put him back there? You personally. Because it is my son and nephews (all in the Army) who will be fighting if this thing turns bad. So fuck off, unless you are willing to fight and maybe die yourself.

  16. GroundTruth   6 months ago

    Trying to decide between stupidity or a setup for 2026/8 (if we live that long).... thx Joe.

  17. Liberty_Belle   6 months ago

    How are we blaming anybody but Putin in here ?

    1. Incunabulum   6 months ago

      That is a non-sequitur.

      *Who is at fault* for Russia's invasion is irrelevant to the topic of the article.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   6 months ago

      So what you're saying is that you would have been fine with the Soviet Union putting missiles in Cuba after the Bay of Pigs failed.

    3. GraniteLiberty303   6 months ago

      Putin is at fault for the invasion.

      But looking at America’s $36 trillion dollars in debt, an ineffectual Congress, and a mentally addled President, I’m skeptical we should be involved in this mess. Unlike Kamala Harris and Nikki Haley I don’t believe “we can do it all”, nor do I buy that Russia will invade the rest of Europe.

      1. JohnZ   6 months ago

        Putin is NOT at fault for this. Washington and NATO need to carry the burden of the blame.
        They pushed the Maiden until civil war broke out and the leadership which was on good terms with Russia was replaced by neo-Nazis.
        The shelling of the Donbass which killed 12,000+ ethnic Russians was ignored by the U.N., Washington and NATO.
        What else was Putin supposed to do? Just sit there?

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   6 months ago

          Amd Nidem was Putin’s enabler. First by setting off a price surge in petroleum markets with his production strangling EO’s, the horribly bungling Afghanistan, and finally by sitting by doing nothing while Putin massed equipment and troops on the Ukraine border.

          This never would have happened had Trump not been cheated in 2020.

        2. μ Aggressor   6 months ago

          Oh I don't know, not invade another sovereign country? Sounds like rape apology, they were just asking for it dressed like that and talking back, don't they know their place?

          1. Chumby   6 months ago

            Kiev was conducting genocide against the citizens of Donbas who, under treaty, had be guaranteed more autonomy via Minsk 2 but that was broken by the nazi adjacent hohol bandera western puppet regime.

            1. A Thinking Mind   6 months ago

              I actually can't sort if the thing you're calling genocide is actually that, or if it's massive propaganda pushed by the pro-Russia crowd. There's a lot of misinformation out there and it's difficult to trust anything. I still think it's safe to conclude that war is bad.

  18. Incunabulum   6 months ago

    Remember Tucille, remember when you all said 'the adults were back in charge'?

    How 'adult' have the last 3 years been?

  19. nobody 2   6 months ago

    An explicit attack on NATO would _not_ actually require a response by all its members. If that were the case the US would be at war with NATO following the attack on Germany. Even if the NATO members all want to pretend to believe the US claims that it was actually the Ukraine that blew up the pipeline, that would just mean that NATO was "required" to enter the war on the side of Russia, which obviously didn't happen.

    1. JohnZ   6 months ago

      NATO is nothing more than an international gangster./Extortionism and shakedown.

  20. MWAocdoc   6 months ago

    Gosh! If only SOMEONE had thought ahead from a less critical time to pull the United States out of NATO ... who could POSSIBLY have imagined a time when Russia would invade Ukraine and make pulling out very hazardous for the world?

    1. Chumby   6 months ago

      You are free to volunteer in the Kiev foreign legion.

  21. BYODB   6 months ago

    'The 1980's called and wants their foreign policy back' sure has aged well, hasn't it. That's the level of foreign policy we're dealing with in the Democrat party.

    Or how about 'I'll have more flexibility after the election' said directly to Putin himself.

    It really makes you wonder what the fuck is going on in their heads.

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