Little Marco Goes Global

Plus: Trump island, AI regulations you've never heard of, Gaza death count, and more...

Trump administration taking shape: Florida Sen. Marco Rubio will most likely be picked as secretary of state; former New York Rep. Lee Zeldin, a Republican who ran for governor against Kathy Hochul and lost, will helm the Environmental Protection Agency; Florida Rep. Mike Waltz will serve as national security adviser; and Rep. Elise Stefanik, who represents New York in the House, has been picked by President-elect Donald Trump to serve as ambassador to the United Nations.

Rubio is, unfortunately for libertarians, quite hawkish. He seems most interested in China affairs, taking a hard-line stance on curbing human rights abuses via government pressure, and he advocates shifting manufacturing back to America as a means of reducing reliance on Chinese imports. He has long supported Venezuelan sanctions, and he is a staunch supporter of Israel, calling Hamas "100 percent to blame" in response to a question about civilian deaths in Gaza.

Trump often deviated from the views of his top advisers.

And I know @DonaldJTrumpJr and others are doing what he said below.

But Trump's last 3 appointees - Elise Stefanik, Mike Weltz, and Rubio - are war hawks fully aligned with the worst prongs of bipartisan DC consensus. pic.twitter.com/LLW0YuDu85

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) November 12, 2024

"Despite speaking in hard-line terms about Russia in the past, Mr. Rubio would likely go along with Mr. Trump's expected plans to press Ukraine to find a way to come to a settlement with Russia and remain outside of NATO," reports The New York Times. "It is unclear whether the leaders of Ukraine or Russia would be prepared to enter into talks at Mr. Trump's urging."

Zeldin is probably a better pick for his post, at least in terms of libertarian priorities, than Rubio. "As president, Biden paused export permits for liquified natural gas, scrapped or stalled new oil and gas pipelines and attempted to bar new permits for drilling on federal land," reports the New York Post. Zeldin is expected to roll back most of those policies and be broadly focused on deregulation.

Zeldin "will ensure fair and swift deregulatory decisions that will be enacted in a way to unleash the power of American businesses, while at the same time maintaining the highest environmental standards, including the cleanest air and water on the planet," said President-elect Donald Trump in a statement.

La Leche League founder resigns: The nonprofit organization devoted to breastfeeding training and support, which has been around since the 1950s, is being dealt a sharp rebuke from one of its original founders (and current board members). Marian Tompson, now 94, writes that the "organization that has become a travesty of my original intent" and that its "focus has subtly shifted to include men who, for whatever reason, want to have the experience of breastfeeding despite no careful long-term research on male lactation and how that may affect the baby."

Tompson is probably referring to a series of changes the organization has made over the last decade that let transgender people and other so-called "chestfeeders" in, detailed here by Bethany Mandel for The Free Press. The issue first cropped up in 2012, when trans-identifying Trevor McDonald—who was born a woman but identified as a man following giving birth, and had an elective mastectomy as a result—was successful in getting the organization to bend its rules for the sake of inclusion.

To some, the erosion of La Leche League's boundaries may seem like no big deal, or even like progress. But to women who care about maintaining some access to female-only spaces for the sake of learning how to best nurture their children, it feels like a betrayal of the organization's longstanding and quite sacred purpose.

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Scenes from New York: The case isn't looking great for Daniel Penny, the 26-year-old Long Islander who is on trial for manslaughter for his role in the subway killing of erratic homeless man Jordan Neely, 30.

On Thursday, the defense asked the judge to rule it a mistrial, claiming that the prosecution was permitted to portray Penny as a "white vigilante" and that they were wrongly allowed a homeless witness, Johnny Grima, to call Penny a "murderer" from the witness stand (when that is not something for which Penny stands legally accused). Judge Maxwell Wiley denied the request but told Penny's lawyers, "I see what you're getting at."

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• Today, Zach Weissmueller and I are interviewing Lee Fang for our show, Just Asking Questions, which has its own channel now. We are just over 1,000 subscribers, which I attribute to the goodness of you, dear readers and X followers and all the others I've lovingly harassed for the last few days. If you HAVE NOT YET SUBSCRIBED and want to EARN MY UNDYING AFFECTION, well, you know what to do.
• "Without a single law passed by Congress, without a dollar of federal funding appropriated, a sweeping regulatory regime for AI is being quietly assembled, going as far as to create from scratch a quasi-regulator for both the development and use of AI," writes Dean Ball for Pirate Wires.
• "Trump has vowed to ease the regulatory burden on crypto and create a reserve to hold the nation's bitcoin supply. Congress will soon be full of lawmakers—young and old—who believe cryptocurrency is a unique asset class that shouldn't be regulated like stocks and bonds," reports the Wall Street Journal.
• Stunning:

Fun fact: "la sombrita" and starship took about the same amount of time. https://t.co/7zaJcGYxLS pic.twitter.com/L1Slrf1Dv5

— Sam D'Amico (@sdamico) November 11, 2024

• The United Nations has thrown its weight behind Hamas' claim that 70 percent of the dead in Gaza are women and children, not militants. "The high number was largely due to Israel's use of weapons with wide-area effects in densely populated areas, although some deaths may have been the result of errant projectiles by Palestinian armed groups," reports the BBC. The U.N. report claims the Israeli military has "an apparent indifference to the death of civilians and the impact of the means and methods of warfare." But many claim the U.N. and their boosters are not telling the truth, and that there are issues with their methodology and analysis.

For anyone worried about misinformation and social media, here is the BBC giving themsleves 14.5 million views on what we call A LIE.

Let's start with the 70% being from a sample of 8,000, 1/5th of the (widely inflated) number that even Hxmxs uses. More details below. https://t.co/B3eXDbQLwc

— Yael Bar tur ????️ (@yaelbt) November 11, 2024

• The more you know, Niihau edition:

My favorite part of Niihau's electoral history: "In 2004 President George W. Bush received all but one of the 40 votes cast on the island. The remaining vote was cast for Green Party nominee David Cobb." https://t.co/8WYSxexwho https://t.co/qITHqkFPrP

— Jesse Walker (@notjessewalker) November 11, 2024

• People are angrily tweeting at me for this, but I maintain that it's an interesting question. How exactly you would build a "Rogan, but for the left"? Who would it be, how would they get big? Does such irreverence, such looseness, even exist among any lefty dude-whisperer?

What are the left-coded dude hobbies and obsessions? I can think of a million right-coded ones––weed and DMT and UFC and weightlifting and comedy and nutrition and weird supplements and paranormal shit––but what are the equivalents on the left? https://t.co/0ch1aglWIR

— Liz Wolfe (@LizWolfeReason) November 12, 2024

Comments

[Chumby]

Latino Carpenter

New York Times reports that Donald J. Trump is set to name Anti-Communist Hardliner Cuban-American Senator Marco Rubio as Secretary of State!

President-elect Donald J. Trump is expected to name Senator Marco Rubio of Florida as his secretary of state, three people familiar with his thinking said on Monday, as Mr. Trump moves rapidly to fill out his foreign policy and national security team.

- Qvinta Aetas

America’s international rivals might now be blinken when negotiating with SoS Rubio.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Can someone red-pill me on Rubio? I've been happy with Trump's picks so far, but I always thought Rubio was uniparty, and his appointment makes me uncomfortable.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

"red-pill you"? What do you think this is, 4-chan?

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Look at the BlueAnon trying to claim people think this is 4-chan. LOL!

[chemjeff radical individualist]

Look at the pathetic ankle-biter here. Shoo.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Whatever, fifty-center.

[Don't look at me!]

So sarctimonious.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

"ankle-biter"

Literally squealing at me for using 'red pill', somehow ITL is the ankle-biter? What a living joke you are, clowntits.

[Chumby]

Mike Laursen used to use that term. Part of their script.

[Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

‘Pathetic ankle biter’ is actually a very good descriptor of you. We’re all having a rational discussion, then you come stumbling in. Derailing said discussion with your ActBlue shitcopypasting.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Fuck off, shill. I didn't ask for the Democratic Party narrative.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

We all know if we want the Team Red narrative, you and Jesse are the first places to turn.

Why don't you tell us again how Mike Pence was really the immoral one for refusing to go along with an illegal scheme to keep Trump in power on Jan. 6 2021.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Do you have any documentation for this alleged "illegal scheme"? And no, the DNC as an authority does not count.

[R Mac]

ML asks a question. Lying Jeffy criticizes him for a slang term while ignoring his QUESTION, then claims ML…is the source of all narratives.

He’s become a caricature of himself.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

One might say Jeffy is trying to dehumanize ML.

[R Mac]

Soo…Lying Jeffy is Hitler.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Fatler.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Goering?

[Chumby]

Jeffy Goebbels up the Team D narrative…and all the chicken wings at the buffet.

[Nachtwaechter Staater]

Perfect.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

“Why don’t you tell us again how Mike Pence was really the immoral one for refusing to go along with an illegal scheme to keep Trump in power on Jan. 6 2021.”

Why don’t you explain to us all without lying (impossible I know) how Trump’s request was "iLLeGaL", fat fuck.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

And looking at those suddenly appearing and disappearing 14 million voters sure looks like Team Jeffey held a coup. Trump was absolutely right.

[JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

So illegal Congress changed the rules after to counter it.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Jeff knows, but he's a lying piece of shit.

[Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

A morbidly obese one.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

John Eastman, the author's memo, thought it was illegal.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/21/politics/read-eastman-memo/index.html

When he gets to Arizona, he announces that he has multiple slates of electors, and so is going to defer decision on that until finishing the other States. This would be the first break with the procedure set out in the Act.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

“HE THOUGHT IT WAS ILLEGAL.”

That’s not what the memo in your link says, Lying Jeffy Cherrypicking Individualist.

1. VP Pence, presiding over the joint session (or Senate Pro Tempore Grassley, if Pence recuses himself), begins to open and count the ballots, starting with Alabama (without conceding that the procedure, specified by the Electoral Count Act, of going through the States alphabetically is required). 2. When he gets to Arizona, he announces that he has multiple slates of electors, and so is going to defer decision on that until finishing the other States. This would be the first break with the procedure set out in the Act. 3. At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States. That means the total number of “electors appointed” – the language of the 12th Amendment — is 454. This reading of the 12th Amendment has also been advanced by Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe (here). A “majority of the electors appointed” would therefore be 228. There are at this point 232 votes for Trump, 222 votes for Biden. Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected. 4. Howls, of course, from the Democrats, who now claim, contrary to Tribe’s prior position, that 270 is required. So Pence says, fine. Pursuant to the 12th Amendment, no candidate has achieved the necessary majority. That sends the matter to the House, where the “the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote . . . .” Republicans currently control 26 of the state delegations, the bare majority needed to win that vote. President Trump is re-elected there as well. 5. One last piece. Assuming the Electoral Count Act process is followed and, upon getting the objections to the Arizona slates, the two houses break into their separate chambers, we should not allow the Electoral Count Act constraint on debate to control. That would mean that a prior legislature was determining the rules of the present one — a constitutional no-no (as Tribe has forcefully argued). So someone – Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, etc. – should demand normal rules (which includes the filibuster). That creates a stalemate that would give the state legislatures more time to weigh in to formally support the alternate slate of electors, if they had not already done so. 6. The main thing here is that Pence should do this without asking for permission – either from a vote of the joint session or from the Court. Let the other side challenge his actions in court, where Tribe (who in 2001 conceded the President of the Senate might be in charge of counting the votes) and others who would press a lawsuit would have their past position — that these are non-justiciable political questions – thrown back at them, to get the lawsuit dismissed. The fact is that the Constitution assigns this power to the Vice President as the ultimate arbiter. We should take all of our actions with that in mind.

"HE SAID A BREAK WITH PROCEDURE THOUGH, THAT'S THE SAME AS ILLEGAL"

Fucking discount shill.

[Roberta]

I think it's jargon from the movie The Matrix. Confuses the hell out of me because I still think of "red pills" as amphetamines.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

It is. Morpheus offers a red pill to stay awake and be aware of what is actually going on, or a blue pill to fall back asleep, back into the comfortable simulation.

[damikesc]

Should've had the balls to have some theatres get the alternate cut where he takes the blue pill.

"WTF? This movie is like 30 minutes! This is BS!!!"

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Speaking of pills, can I make Blue Kool-aid from blue pills? Asking for millions of disappointed Harris supporters who still can't stop crying and get out of bed.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

They'll only take them as suppositories so it doesn't matter if they taste like shit.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Dildo-shaped suppositories?

[Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

Best to just put them down.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

“red-pill you”? What do you think this is, 4-chan?

What do you think this is, Reddit or Tumblr?

[Moonrocks]

My impression is that he's always been friendly with Trump.

[ducksalad]

Forgotten the hand size thing? Little Marco?

[R Mac]

I can’t.

[(Good Riddance Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring]

It's important to note that as of this post, Trump has not confirmed Rubio is the pick on Truth Social, X, or anywhere else.

Frankly, I'm not sure that I believe that it's really Trump's inner circle floating out this trial balloon.

We should all realize by now that the scum at the NYT and all the rest of the legacy media will resort to anything and everything to try and harm Trump and weaken his administration, including blatantly lying through their teeth about who is feeding them information.

[R Mac]

I’ve seen some speculation they’re floating out some of these picks to catch leakers.

[Chumby]

Biden leaks

The White House reeks

[Jefferson Paul]

I really hope that's true for two reasons:

First, it would mean Rubio is not the actual pick for SoS.
Second, it would mean Trump's team is being smart and not stupid (as it had been in his first term), and weeding out the disloyal traitors in his circle. And doing so from the start, not after much damage has already been done.

[Super Scary]

The only thing I remember about him is that Trump called him Little Marco.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

The thing about Rubio is that he's first and foremost a party man, meaning he'll go along with whatever the prevailing sentiment of the party's voters are demanding. He came in with the Tea Party wave, participated in the Gang of 8 to try and get some clout with the McCain faction that largely dominated the Senate, and then eventually settled into a relatively standard niche as a reliable R vote on bills. But he's someone who's been able to comfortably work with both the populists and the McConnell wing of the party in the Senate.

If Don Jr.'s signing off on this, it's probably to 1) get his name off of consideration as a potential compromise candidate for Majority Leader, since McConnell's trying to torpedo Rick Scott at the moment; and 2) get someone in the Cabinet whom the McConnell faction will be comfortable working with. He's worth keeping an eye on to avoid a Miles Taylor situation, but that's a prestige position and I suspect Rubio's going to be a good boi as far as representing Trump's foreign policy agenda.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

I'm pretty comfortable with Rubio. I don't see him joining the resistance or 2nd guessing Trump's agenda.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

The one I’m worried about is Noem as Homeland Security director. Noem is an absolute hack who shouldn’t be in charge of a fucking lemonade stand, much less a department responsible for the managing the border and disaster relief. She’s going to get torn to ribbons in Congressional hearings because she can’t think on her feet. DeSantis or Abbott would have been a much better choice.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

If there are cuts, then DHS might not be around much longer anyway.

[damikesc]

I'm hoping DeSantis names himself as Senator to replace Rubio.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

And she shoots puppies.

[Commenter_XY]

Red, very surprised to read this. What makes you so down on Kristi?

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

She’s a media disaster waiting to happen. Look at Grimsrud’s comment–yeah, I understand in rural areas, that’s actually a pretty common thing when you have an aggressive dog that's a potential danger to family members. It’s been going on forever. But after making hay over Peanut and Springfield’s cats, it’s an own-goal to bring on someone who shot a puppy. That’s just the political reality.

Plus, nothing she’s shown in her time in the spotlight gives me any confidence that she’s going to be able to competently manage the border or the constant Congressional hearings and media coverage over it. She refused to prevent males from participating in female sports in South Dakota because she didn’t want to deal with the lawsuits. That tells me she’s a lightweight who’s going to buckle with the slightest bit of media pushback, and force the administration to constantly play defense while Trump is trying to get TdA gangs out of the country. He needs someone to be the anti-Mayorkas, and I don’t think she’s up for the job.

[Chumby]

ML, Trump playing chess with this move.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Sure hope so.

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

This is two days in a row where I have read in Reason that wanting to maintain economic sanctions against bad actors makes you a “War Hawk”.

I’d love the Reason braintrust to explain their diplomatic tool bag. Or we are to just accept what we get from other countries.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

Well for starters, if you want to go doctrinaire libertarian, then a state imposing economic sanctions is usurping the liberty of the individual to make his/her own economic choices. If you want to choose to boycott China or whatever, you should have the liberty to do so, but why should the state force everyone to boycott China whether they want to or not?

Plus, there is the practical matter. Do sanctions really work? I am sure Rick James will be along momentarily to gloat about how sanctions on Russia didn't really work. Their aggression against Ukraine continued relatively unabated. So why pursue a policy that doesn't really work? To virtue-signal?

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

So should we just roll over and do what others want us to do? Is that what you're claiming, Jeffy?

[R Mac]

Lying Jeffy didn’t address the question he responded to whatsoever. 0-2 Lying Jeffy.

[JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

He has been spiraling badly. Marxist mask is removed.

Jeffs entire ethis is supplication to others.

[Chumby]

The commentariat could start a GoFundMe to pay for an enema to help him out.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Pretty sure that would kill him. Once done they could bury him in a matchbox.

[damikesc]

Iran was dead in the water until Biden gave them billions and removed sanctions.

So there's a case where it worked.

Obama had a bizarre hard on for those mullahs. As did his advisors. Ditto Biden.

[Commenter_XY]

Valerie Jarrett = the reason for the hard-on for the mullahs

[JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

Was about to mention this. Diplomatic pressure is now being a war hawk?

[Chumby]

If they threaten a tariff in response to an aggressive trade policy from the other nation, that is the same as nuking them.

[JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

Oh yeah. Forget how tariffs are now the most important thing after skin color was nuked in the election.

[Chumby]

Milk This For All It Is Worth

Pennsylvania Amish turned out in 'unprecedented numbers' to elect Trump after state cracked down on local farm over raw milk.

- Amish friendly channel

https://thepostmillennial.com/pennsylvania-amish-turned-out-in-unprecedented-numbers-to-elect-trump-after-state-cracked-down-on-local-farm-over-raw-milk?utm_campaign=64483

A churn for the better.

[Moonrocks]

Speaking of government confiscation of dairy products,

The recall for 1,300 cases containing 79,200 pounds of butter was initiated on Oct. 11 by a wholesaler in Littlefield, Texas due to an undeclared allergen, FDA records show. The allergen in the Kirkland Signature Unsalted Sweet Cream Butter (46,800 pounds) and Kirkland Signature Salted Sweet Cream Butter (32,400 pounds) was milk, the federal agency said.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/food/2024/11/11/costco-butter-recall/76205341007/

[damikesc]

You cannot loathe the bureaucracy enough.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

True. But if you complain too loudly they'll come and kill your squirrel.

[damikesc]

Kinda odd that PETA has no problem with it.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Not odd at all. PETA kills more animals than any other organization in North America.

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=295a4113-b3be-42df-8585-665f496cc913

[soldiermedic76]

This may be worse than warning labels on power drills stating they are not dental tools.

[soldiermedic76]

Also, if you have an allergy to dairy and you don't know butter is made from milk, maybe we want you out of the gene pool.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

What, they don't want us recreating scenes from Marathon Man?

[Gaear Grimsrud]

This was predicted but I was skeptical until I saw a parade of Amish buggys with Trump signs. They probably won't answer exit polling so we may never know the exact numbers but still pretty cool.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Trump won the Amish, Native American, Orthodox Jew and Arab vote and made substantial inroads into the Latino community and with African American men.

Literally Hitler sure is ethnically diverse.

[Chumby]

It was because voters found out that Chase is gay.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Woah, does Sarc know?

[Chumby]

Sarc was the one that outed him! Turns out Chase wasn’t the spoiler…it was sarc!

[Ajsloss]

How dairy you?!

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Keep milking it.

[Don't look at me!]

Mooove along.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Udderly ridiculous.

[Outlaw Josey Wales]

Be butter.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Posted this to my substack with a little digging the reporter should have done.

Useless stats, typical for useless reporting. Elections are won by counts, not percentages. Doesn't even tell you what the Lancaster County percentage was last election. I looked up some stats; Lancaster County has 4.25% of Pennsylvania's population, so their 16% translates to a statewide 0.68%, one third of the entire 2% lead. The Amish are somewhat less than 10%, so it's hard to make a case that they tipped the election. But that's journalism.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

How exactly you would build a "Rogan, but for the left"? Who would it be, how would they get big?

Don't we just call them the legacy media?

[Social Justice is neither]

Rogan for the left would be Joe Rogan. He's generally on the left on most every topic but the marxists running the left's narrative chased him and many others out with their insane worldview and extremism in imposing it on others.

[HorseConch]

Joe Rogan, Matt Taibbi, and Glenn Greenwald were all very left and quite influential. Maybe not being a bunch of Marxists would help them get guys like that on their side.

[R Mac]

People that make a living from free speech turned against the party that started attacking free speech. A handful of Reason writers felt comfortable they wouldn’t be effected by such a regime…

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Yeah censorship is an article of faith on the left. Can't have a three hour conversation with a smart opinionated person and refuse to let them speak.

[HorseConch]

There are current complaints floating around on X about how dangerous it will be if there are no factcheckers. How did we make it this far as a society when we went a couple hundred years without having offically coordinated lies in the media?

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

To be fair, for most of human history religion provided a "fact-checking" role in order to minimize speech people did not want to hear. Progressives just rediscovered this for their Church of Woke.

[Rockstevo]

That is my thought exactly...Rogan lets people speak even when he disagrees with them. They would either not invite anyone they disagree with or shout them down like this ass hat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aV30g4DiccQ

[Jefferson Paul]

Before I clicked on the link, I suspected it would be that clip.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

I think it's a bit too late for that. The Marxists all went full-blown authoritarian while the Rogans, Taibbis, and Greenwalds of the world wanted to maintain free speech. This happened while the neocons and GOPe like the Cheneys went more authoritarian and the others of us, again, wanted things like free speech. The realignment happened, and we are now on the same side as Rogan, Taibbi, and Greenwald; now opposite the likes of Liz and Dick Cheney, McConnell, Obama, and others.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

See my comment below. Rogan for the left would be a shrill, unfunny, pedantic woman.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

In other words, Rachel Maddow?

[Chumby]

Stephen Colbert?

[Zeb]

Yeah, Rogan is solidly center left. He's just not insane, isn't for gun control and opposes censorship. If today's left wants a Joe Rogan, they first need to stop making censorship one of their core values. Rogan just lets people say what they want to say. The mainstream left today hates that more than anything.

[R Mac]

Chris Wallace is leaving CNN to start his own podcast. I’m sure he’ll do great.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Surprising considering the huge success of CNN Plus.

[damikesc]

Maybe he can get Shep Smith to join him as the FNC washouts or something.

[Jefferson Paul]

Does anyone else remember back in the 2000s when Sheppard Smith had a Freudian slip and said "blow job" on air while talking about J-Lo or some other celebrity?

[Jefferson Paul]

Although I would think it would have been more likely to have happened to him when discussing a male celebrity.

[Chumby]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzV8wrnLfS4

[Ron]

Remember when the left tried to make a radio talk show host to compete with Rush Limbaugh, they flopped. You can't force things they have to come naturally and the left doesn't allow natural since everything must cater to some perceived view. this is also why all the late night tv talk shows are failing.

[Quicktown Brix]

For some reason, this never seems to work for the left. Talk radio or any kind of discussion format shows seem to lack the audience, maybe because of an inverse correlation between interest in politics and support for the left.

But if you insist on trying, I think Jon Stewart is as close as you can get. He's very left, but often maintains common sense (with a glaring 2A exception) like he did with Colbert about the lab leak. He's funny, passionate and capable of discussion.

Having said that, I've tried Stewart's podcast and didn't like it.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Stewart’s act is the epitome of “applause comedy”–it only works in highly managed environments where everyone can bark along with the jokes like trained seals. He got as huge as he did for two reasons–1) he took over The Daily Show in 1999, right on the cusp of all the craziness and upheaval that’s taken place post-Y2K, and people were looking for someone to try and make sense of all of it; and 2) when he wants to, he’s been good at pulling off that fake “both sides are the problem” act which is just a unity-criticism-unity dialectic in disguise. His smartass New York City urban delivery also made a potent foil for the doofy sincerity of the Bush-era GOP in a post-9/11 world.

But Dubya’s gone and the neocons are all but expunged from the GOP at this point. Post-Daily Show, his AppleTV program bit the dust and his podcast is a ghost town. He failed to do his faux-centrist act in the former and went Full Shitlib, and he doesn’t have the kind of easy conversational style that makes podcasters like Rogan successful, because he’s too didactic and smug. His act is a 2000s-era one that doesn’t transcend time or political realignments, and it shows every time the Daily Show pulls him out of mothballs on Monday.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Case in point with Stewart; this is what he said last night:

I only have one problem with the woke theory… I just didn’t recall seeing any Democrats running on woke s**t,’ the comic said, after playing clips of CNN, Fox News and MSNBC commentators theorizing why Harris lost.

Except they did exactly that, Jon, stating anyone who didn’t vote for Harris was sexist and racist, and even at that, the politicians who side-stepped it knew they couldn’t engage on woke shit, because they’d be immediately branded as liars after the last 10 years of promoting woke shit.

[Mickey Rat]

The Harris ad campaign that had "the last place women have a right to choose is in the voting booth" was fully critical theory, intersectional , woke notions that women should be a monolithic Democrat voting bloc but for malign forces influencing them. Stewart is gaslighting or does not know anything.

[Quicktown Brix]

Yes, he’s firmly on the left. That’s why I brought him up here.

he doesn’t have the kind of easy conversational style that makes podcasters like Rogan successful, because he’s too didactic and smug

Yeah, I reckon you’re right about this.

I disagree with your “applause comedy/trained seal” comment though. I think that’s just a rationalization to denigrate comedy you don’t appreciate.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

I disagree with your “applause comedy/trained seal” comment though. I think that’s just a rationalization to denigrate comedy you don’t appreciate.

You’re free to have that opinion, but you’re wrong. The only difference between Stewart and the applause comics on Netflix is the scope of their influence over the last generation. Other than that, their acts are virtual clones of each other, especially the Daily Show grads like John Oliver and Samantha Bee.

[Quicktown Brix]

You’re free to have that opinion, but you’re wrong.

I guess we're done here then.

[Unable2Reason]

They already have a Joe Rogan of the left. It's called Joe Rogan. He's happy to have them on but they won't go anywhere that their belief bubble might be challenged, or worse, popped.

[Chumby]

Bandera of Brothers

Escape from Ukraine!

On December 21, a game called Escape from Ukraine will be released on Steam. It’s a simulation of a Zelensky in a role of draft dodger.

The objective of the game is to escape from Ukraine under the gunfire of border guards and collect money.

- Two Majors

I imagine as January gets nearer, draft dodging will increase. Baka!

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

I'll be playing Stalker 2 frome Ukraine developer GSC.

[damikesc]

Have you seen the file size for that thing?

I thought Baldur's Gate 3 was big. I thought Call of Duty was comically large.

That thing looks massive.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

No, but that's nuts

[Chumby]

Spyware isn’t elegantly coded, hence the bulk.

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

Also – ROGAN IS OF THE LEFT. Just the old fashioned Liberal/ non-progressive/non-insane Left.

Idiots

[Chumby]

Rogan, a Bernie backer, is not on the right. Imagine being so far progressive to label him as to the right.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

But Rogan sat across the table from Trump for 3 hours and did not assassinate him even once!

[Chumby]

Has Rogan ever donated to Act Blue?

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Yes. Hundreds of times. But he doesn't know it.

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

Noice

[damikesc]

We told you he is NOT a conservative, darn it!

[chemjeff radical individualist]

This is a bit disingenuous. Yes I'm sure policy wise he is not on the right. But "left" and "right" no longer are associated strictly with policy preferences. He has become a part of the Team Red lifestyle brand.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

A real individualist, as opposed to you, the globalist.

[Social Justice is neither]

You mean not insane?

[R Mac]

Remember when you lied about him pretending to be a doctor, and repeated the CNN talking points about him, Lying Jeffy? Because I do.

[R Mac]

Also, it’s funny watching Lying Jeffy pretend he doesn’t know about the Overton Window.

[damikesc]

Team Blue has spent YEARS slandering him.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

But “left” and “right” no longer are associated strictly with policy preferences.

Interesting how Jeff's side loses an election, and this becomes the talking point. See also: latinos are no longer an ethnic group now that they have shifted right.

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

GFY and go find another hobby. No one wants to hear from you except your boyfriend. You do nothing but clutter up the place

[Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

He’s been very angry and shrill lately. So push back even harder on him. It’s funny when he loses his shit. And there’s always an outside chance that he his fat ass has a heart attack and dies.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

I don't really have anything to add that the others haven't addressed just now, but I still wanted to swing by and say fuck you, Lying Jeffy.

[Zeb]

Well, that's part of the problem. Why shouldn't someone who is left leaning on political issues like guns and meat and combat sports?
Plus, the Red lifestyle brand is just cooler.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

Rogan talks to not radical Marxists, which is something the left is incapable of doing

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Also, Rogan and his guests seldom break down in tears and have to console each other for an hour.

[Randy Sax]

It's really not a matter of left or right. He is popular and can't be controlled. And the Dems can't stand that.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

That's really what it boils down to. These people are manic about controlling the flow of information and the narratives. Someone like Rogan who pushes back against that is automatically seen as the enemy. It's why Greenwald, Taibbi, Jimmy Dore, Bari Weiss, and other media exiles are viewed as being on the right these days, even though they're the furthest thing from being right wing that you can imagine.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

And due to that, the "left-right" axis changed to an "authoritarian-libertarian" axis. The realignment is happening (seems to have mostly happened), and many are still figuring out where they stand in the new reality and what's exactly happened.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

" and many are still figuring out where they stand in the new reality and what’s exactly happened."
But enough about Reason editors.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

But anyone who challenges the progressive-establishment narrative is a fascist.

[HorseConch]

Is it really fascism if you only watch and the people being fascisted were too young/drunk to know they were being fascisted?

---------Fat Lying Turd

[Ajsloss]

I just squirted my fascism onto the victim, then I felt bad after.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Yeah, as Chumby pointed out, Rogan (and Tulsi) were Bernie supporters. The consequences of the wokies driving the Dem agenda ended up putting him on "the right" by default, but even in asking the question, these idiots in the media miss the point.

Rogan has an audience largely of 20-30 something straight males who grew up during GWOT, spent their formative years being told by the schools and the mass media that they have Original Sin for being straight males, and have a reflexive distrust of institutions as a result. It's not that they're "anti-government" in the Reaganite sense, because that doesn't exist anymore. They're just rightfully cynical about what "experts" are claiming, since those claims inevitably ended up promoting shitty policies and harmful social interactions.

There's no "Rogan for the left" in that sense because these are guys who were more or less sympathetic to leftist policies, but the general misogyny and social maladaption of the Dems led them to reject the party. That's why younger males keep trending more conservative since Trump was first elected. The Dems have gone out of their way to alienate these voters. The whole question reeks of liberal focus-group obsession.

[Mike Parsons]

"There’s no “Rogan for the left” "

Theres no Rogan for the left, because the left is frankly a party focused on women's issues. Aside from directly focusing on a bunch of stuff directly related to women, they focus on goals and ideas women value: safety over freedom, nanny state everything, collective guilt for every group, toxic-empathy and femininity.

The guys that reside in the left are low T simps that are over feminized, weak, and lame as fuck. Their Rogan is Chris Hayes, talking about his favorite NYT recipe for shakshuka, what the most culturally respectful vacation trips he can take are, and where all the foodies are eating this weekend, plus maybe how good the newest series of gossip girl is

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

safety over freedom, nanny state everything, collective guilt for every group, toxic-empathy and femininity.

Collectively, it's based on pathological altruism--the idea that any sort of negative emotion or experience is oppressive. It's why the idea of "gentle parenting" gained so much traction with these types. They actually believe that the American Dream means not having a second of personal struggle, but that's not the American Dream, that's the Marxist Dream.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Their Rogan is Chris Hayes, talking about his favorite NYT recipe for shakshuka, what the most culturally respectful vacation trips he can take are, and where all the foodies are eating this weekend, plus maybe how good the newest series of gossip girl is

The Pod Save America dickheads are already largely filling that niche. They're former Obama officials so they already have media clout, but they're mostly followed by the kind of guys you describe--what were called metrosexuals in the late 90s-2000s. Urban sophisticates who look down on anyone who likes male-centered sports instead of the WNBA, women's soccer, or other women's sports, may not necessarily have a college degree, and likes to barbecue on the weekends while drinking cheap beer. That's Rogan's audience, and these assholes have no fucking clue how to talk to them because they always come off sounding dismissive and superior.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

I would like to think that Rogan's audience, and 20 to 30-something guys in general, mostly don't know or don't care how the progressive left has vilified them. They are just being normal young adult men, having fun when and how they want, including stuff that the harpies would like to ban.

[R Mac]

They’re aware because it was shoved down their throats in high school.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

But how many ignored and forgot the harpies by the time the next case of beer was consumed?

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Probably not as many as one might think due to the votes Trump got last week.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

No. If that was the case, young men wouldn't be trending more conservative since Trump was elected. And don't get it twisted, it's not about "caring"--that's a female perspective on the trend. Why would these men continue vote for a party and politicians, represented by voters with the same political opinions, that have been vilifying them since childhood?

[R Mac]

Except it’s not just harping. They were actively discriminated against in ways that made their life more difficult and in some cases hurt their futures.

There’s now more women than men in college.

[Chumby]

Putin on the Blitz

Trump posted a Fox News story on Truth Social about his conversations with world leaders after his election, which made no mention of Putin.

Earlier, the Kremlin denied Western media reports about a telephone conversation between the Russian leader and the future American president.

Two major publications, the Washington Post and Reuters, wrote about Trump and Putin speaking on the phone.

Trump's press service neither confirmed nor denied the fact of the call to Putin.

- Intel Slava Z

WaPo editors spending more time crying about not being able to endorse the indebted loser Harris and less time checking facts.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

He seems most interested in China affairs, taking a hard-line stance on curbing human rights abuses via government pressure, and he advocates shifting manufacturing back to America as a means of reducing reliance on Chinese imports.

I fail to see the downside here.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

Ahh but you see he also wants researchers to cure cancer, so you know he's evil

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

WAR HAWK!! We got a War Hawk over here!!!!

How dare you not just accede to whatever China thinks is best! It’s what all the True L 100% quiz LiboTarians would do!

[soldiermedic76]

It's kind of like saying Marshall was more focused on the Soviets and wanted to keep them contained (although, it may have been better for the world if the Truman administration had paid a little more attention to China after the war ended).

[Idaho-Bob]

La Leche League founder resigns:

These fuckers have always been crazy.

My wife joined when our oldest was born. There were members (1990’s) who were breastfeeding offspring as old as ten. They were giving advice about how to feed during lunch and recess at elementary schools.

My wife only attended one meeting.

[Zeb]

Oof. I knew someone like that. Mother and son did not have a healthy adult relationship.

[R Mac]

Did they run a motel together?

[DesigNate]

They were super helpful when we had our first. Luckily nothing crazy like that.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

One of the tweets in response to Liz's, re: Joe Rogan

The real problem is that conservatives spent 10 years codifying a new generation of male hobbies as explicitly right-wing. Rogan is a symptom, but it is not even close to the cause. If you want men to come back to the center or to the left you have to start with their interests.

I think this is getting to the heart of the matter. The two teams aren't really political parties anymore, but lifestyle brands. If you're into sports and UFC and car racing, then you're a Republican. If you're into traveling, eating good food, art and culture, then you're a Democrat. It's dumb, because there is no reason why a person can't be both into UFC and a Democrat, or why a person can't be both into arts and culture and be a Republican, but here we are.

[Social Justice is neither]

No you ignorant marxist cunt, the truth is Leftists like you spent the last 2 generations increasingly calling everything men did "toxic masculinity" and for some reason that is offputting to the target. These things become "rightwing" by rejecting some doctrine of the Left and becoming a target of your hate mobs and refusing to bow down to your insane demands.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

It's only offputting if you think there's nothing wrong with toxic masculinity, or that 'boys being boys' is a totally acceptable take.

https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/what-is-toxic-masculinity

Toxic Masculinity Signs
Toxic masculinity is nuanced, but there are a few behaviors that are often caused by toxic masculinity. Some toxic masculinity examples include:

Homophobia. Toxic masculinity teaches men that homosexuality is a deviation from traditional masculinity and that gay men are less masculine. For example, consider the way terms like “gay” and “faggot” were and still are used as insults.
Need for control. Toxic masculinity encourages men to assert their power and dominance. We see this often in domestic relationships. The 2017 report "The Man Box" found that 34% of men in the U.S. believed they should always have the final say in their relationship, and 46% believed that men deserved to know where their girlfriend or wife is at all times.
Promiscuity. Toxic masculinity praises men for having multiple sexual partners while expressing disgust at women who do the same.
Refusing to help with household duties. Toxic masculinity rejects roles traditionally considered “women’s work.” Toxically masculine men often refuse to participate in these household duties. "The Man Box" found that 22% of U.S. men believed they shouldn’t have to do household chores, 44% believed they should be the sole income earners, and 28% believed that boys shouldn’t be taught things like cooking, cleaning, and child care.
Risk-taking. Taking risks and suppressing fear is another feature of toxic masculinity. As a result, men are more likely to abuse drugs, drive dangerously, gamble, and engage in violence.
Sexual aggression toward women. Men who have been influenced by toxic masculinity are more likely to believe they're entitled to women’s bodies, leading to sexual comments and harassment toward women and a higher likelihood of believing rape myths.
Stoicism. A cornerstone idea of toxic masculinity is that showing emotion is weak and feminine. Men are expected to be mentally and physically tough without breaking. Statistics and studies show that men are less likely to pursue mental health services like therapy despite being 1.8 times more likely than women to commit suicide.
Violence. Toxic masculinity encourages men to use aggression and violence to assert their dominance and masculinity. "The Man Box" report found that 23% of U.S. men believed that, if needed, men should use violence to get respect.

I am not sure if I agree with everything on that list, but it is certainly not the same as "everything guys do".

[Medulla Oblongata]

And that's why I won't use Gillette products.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

Because when you buy razors, you want to buy them from a company who affirms your personal beliefs that it's okay for guys to be assholes and to justify it as 'boys being boys'.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

You're an asshole here, and I sure as hell wouldn't chalk it up to you just being a boy.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Which company are you referring to?

[R Mac]

Gillette claimed trying to talk to women men find attractive is toxic. I know it’s complicated for pedos.

[Chumby]

Gillette, the best a tran can get.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Because when you buy razors, you want to buy them from a company who affirms your personal beliefs that it’s okay for guys to be assholes and to justify it as ‘boys being boys."

That's the femtard/leftist take, but it's a load of crap and shouldn't be taken seriously. Anyone who thinks boys roughhousing, or staring at an attractive woman, is an asshole thing to do has serious mental problems.

I'm sure you thought the rather benign Gilette commercials from the early 90s exemplified "toxic masculinity," but anyone who actually believes that is a moron.

[Mike Parsons]

“Anyone who thinks boys roughhousing, or staring at an attractive woman, is an asshole thing to do has serious mental problems.”

I would argue those people are precisely what is wrong with the country, why everyone hates the left, and why Trump won.

"Everything that man has evolved into over millenia that has led you to be the way you are is a lie, and is bad. Actually you are a blank slate and there is no reason whatsoever you cant be and act like a woman, and in fact, you should because that is better"

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

"Now step into the van and let the doctor remove your testicles."

[Medulla Oblongata]

More the opposite. I'm not a "boys will boys" believer, tick not a one of the boxes above except maybe for stoicism, but resent being lumped into the pile of "all men are rapists" Gillette marketed.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

It’s only offputting if you think there’s nothing wrong with toxic masculinity, or that ‘boys being boys’ is a totally acceptable take.

"Toxic masculinity" is a strawman that has no validity whatsoever. Your side declaring that the phrase "boys being boys" is evil and bad, and shoving psychotropic drugs into them over the las 30-plus years to make them act more like girls, is part of that false construct.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Did the boys at school make fun of you?

[DesigNate]

Of course they did.

[damikesc]

That there is no such thing as "toxic feminity" is a clear sign that toxic masculinity is crap on a stick.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

'no such thing as “toxic feminity”'?

Have you seen and heard the ladies bawling since last Tuesday, and now swearing never to have sex again?

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Have you seen and heard the ladies bawling since last Tuesday, and now swearing never to have sex again?

The funny part is that the 4B movement in South Korea is an extremely niche thing that's largely an obsession of AWFLs. I'm sure the Venn diagram between that and K-pop stans in that demographic is greater than 90%.

"It took Donald Trump getting re-elected for you to stop acting like a whore" is one of the best ironies of this timeline.

[damikesc]

Also speaks highly of the women that consider their pussy the only worthwhile thing about them.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Without even coming close to sensing the irony that becoming celibate until they can have unlimited abortions tends to completely moot the need for them to have abortions.

Or do they plan to go out to get artificially inseminated zygotes implanted just so they can get some abortions?

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

You racist! Woke people don't have to be pregnant to deserve abortions.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

That's not toxic femininity, it's a lack of femininity.

Feminine women don't behave like pants-shitting toddlers.

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

You are so fvcking gay

[Zeb]

How come people aren't talking more about toxic femininity?
There certainly are some stereotypical masculine behaviors which can be pretty negative. But it's not as if the feminine couterpart doesn't exist.
And what is toxic about risk taking and stoicism? Those seem like valuable and useful personality traits in most cases.

[Jefferson Paul]

Promiscuity. Toxic masculinity praises men for having multiple sexual partners while expressing disgust at women who do the same.

I don't think promiscuity is good for anyone, as it lessens the ability to pair bond with whomever you wind up staying with or marrying.

That being said, this is a stupid complaint (that men are praised for having multiple partners while women who do so receive disdain). A man who can get that many women in bed has to have incredible "game" or be a celebrity or pro athlete.

An average guy can't do that. He's not going to be able to score a new girl each night.

An average woman can absolutely get a new guy to sleep with her each night. Hell, a below average woman probably can. There is no accomplishment to an average woman doing this though. Put an average guy on a street corner with a sign saying he'll have sex with any woman who wants to and compare the results to an average woman with a sign saying she'll fuck any guy who approaches her. I don't think you're going to see similar numbers of takers.

A strained analogy would be if a random woman were provided unlimited food and couldn't stop herself from eating herself into obesity. A random man isn't provided any food and has to go out hunting and farming to provide himself more than enough but overindulges and also becomes obese. Neither one should be praised for becoming obese, but the woman who did nothing to produce the food and just ate deserves more scorn, IMO.

[Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

We get it Fatfuck. You’re a testosterone deficient gutless pussy. So you hate anyone who is a real man. Unlike you. This also likely ties into your enthusiasm for pedophilia.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

If this is what you tell yourself to explain why you lost the election, jeff, you can expect to lose more.

[JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

He will prioritize losing more elections than he does weight.

[Randy Sax]

The real problem is that conservatives spent 10 years codifying a new generation of male hobbies

It’s the exact opposite. Conservatives didn’t do anything. The left pushed them all away and then labeled them “right wing”.

[R Mac]

I’m into sports, traveling, and eating good food.

[R Mac]

And notice Lying Jeffy accidentally gives his left-wing bias.

See, “culture” is what the left is into. Anything cultural that his enemies are into is inferior.

[Randy Sax]

DMT, talking about aliens, and weightlifting are also culture. The people doing it just don't sniff their own farts.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

But they do tell fart jokes. How crude!

[Ajsloss]

Eating good food.

As if there's a person on this planet into eating bad food. Some people might have to eat bad food, but I very highly doubt they're into it.

[Dillinger]

the raccoons in that commercial lol "hey come here you gotta try this. it's awful." "why would I want to try it if it's awful?"

[Super Scary]

“The real problem is that conservatives spent 10 years codifying a new generation of male hobbies as explicitly right-wing. ”

I just wanted to play video games.

[Randy Sax]

Sargon?

[DesigNate]

And collect comic books.

[Ska]

“If you’re into sports… then you’re a Republican.”

NYC metro has: the Yankees, Mets, Giants, Jets, Rangers, Islanders, Knicks, Nets, NYC FC. And you think the fans of these teams are…. Republicans?

I’ll agree with the your conclusion in one sense: that whole thread is dumb. There are Republicans who play instruments and Democrats who play sports. How the fuck are we now delineating mainstream hobbies as political decisions?

[chemjeff radical individualist]

Because the two teams have transformed into lifestyle brands. Voting for Trump is "just what guys do" and voting for Kamamama is "just what girls do". It's dumb.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Lifestyle brands? Somehow I just don't see people running around in Air McConnells.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Since they didn't vote for Chase, they're both homophobic, right?

[damikesc]

Trump and his team did not attack women.

Democrats have attacked men, legitimately, for well over a decade.

Conservatives do not want politics in sports...at all.

[R Mac]

Yeah but Mark Cuban said…

[Zeb]

Then stop repeating it. 40 something % of women voted for Trump and similar with men for Harris. It's a stupid and pointless generalization.

[DesigNate]

He can’t help but collectivize.

[Chumby]

Participating in sports not sitting in the barcalounger with a platter of chips, wings, poppers, and favorite calorie-laden beverage to view programming while only getting up when sportsball team advances beyond the line of gain to reset the downs whereby manboobs busts up to gesticulate that a first down has been achieved while wearing a brightly colored costume to emulate their tights-wearing heroes.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Kamala couldn't have said it better.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

No one could have said it better.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

“eating good food”

Lol.

Lets try again, Lying Jeffy.

If you’re into free speech, civil rights and unfucked children, then you’re a Republican. If you’re into psychological abuse, pedophilia, child castration, population replacement and slavery, then you’re a Democrat.

[Chumby]

Jefg will have the gish gallop platter with a side of strawman.

Mike Laursen will have the sea lion entree. When told it was freshly caught, his response will be “Cite?”

Sarc will try a Cuban for the first time and have another forty to wash it down.

[Commenter_XY]

The two teams aren’t really political parties anymore, but lifestyle brands.

This is just dumb. Lifestyle encompasses so much more than political affiliation.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Well, maybe for the normal person, but this is Jeffy we're talking about here.

[Moonrocks]

Does such irreverence, such looseness, even exist among any lefty dude-whisperer?

Have you heard the kind of actual, no-shit bigotry that popular leftist streamers routinely get away with?

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Now that the Democrats have realized that Latinos, Blacks and Native Americans aren't going to give them that permanent majority they dreamed of, and are moving en masse into MAGA, watch racism come back into vogue for Democrats.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

It's already begun. Some Dems are saying it's time for a "discussion" with Latinos.

[Longtobefree]

I will believe that when they officially, on the record, apologize for 'latinx'.

[Mickey Rat]

I expect not submitting to the inevitability of "latinx" as the march of history is one of the things the Left wants to hector Latinos about.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Wanna bet that like with most "discussions" proposed by superior leftist women, only one party gets to talk?

[soldiermedic76]

The discussion will entail labeling all Hispanics that have European heritage, as white (or at best, as they have with Asians, white adjacent) and therefore no longer worthy of consideration except as racists. Of course many of us have been pointing out for years that labeling Hispanics as a race is just asinine because, at the time of the founding of America, the Spanish imperial holdings in the Americas were the most racially diverse places on Earth. Mexico City had representative communities from all corners of the planet. They had a very large East Asian community and Jewish community, in addition to African, Amerindian, Caribbean, even some Polynesian and Micronesians, and even some from the Middle East. And no not all the Africans were slaves (or black for that matter). One of the largest European ancestry, besides Spanish, in Mexico is Irish. There is a huge German community in both Brazil (a Portuguese colony) and Argentina (both of which pre-date the world wars). Large Basque communities through central and south America. Hell, even some Confederates moved to Brazil after the Civil War. In many ways, Central and South America remain the most diverse, ethnically, part of the World. There's quite a few of Argentinian, Brazilians and Mexicans with red or blonde hair, pale skin and green or blue eyes.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

When was it not en vogue?
Republicans aren't the ones that code switch, Republicans aren't the ones that say blacks don't know how to get an ID or use the internet

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

"watch racism come back into vogue for Democrats."

See shrike par example.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Thinking of which...
where has that asshole been recently?

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Sigh. I apologize if I'm the one who summoned his racist ass.

[Medulla Oblongata]

This was a local race back then…so I got quite a few examples.

They call themselves “progressives” and “anti-racists”, they called Georgia’s updated voting laws Jim Crow 2.0.

In reality, they are base human beings, simply filled with venom and racist vitriol to be turned on anyone with whom they disagree.

Here’s a smattering of things that MSNC hosts, Washington Post and The Nation writers, and other candidates for office have said about Herschel Walker, who is running for a Senate seat to represent Georgia (against incumbent Raphael Warnock).

Imagine for one second if Fox News or the WSJ had written these statements about Mr. Warnock.

“Herschel Walker’s candidacy is a white insult to Black people.”

“Walker is what they think of us, and they think we’re big, ignorant, and easily manipulated. They think we’re shady or criminal. They think we’re tools to be used. The Walker campaign exists as a political minstrel show: a splashy rendition of what white Republicans think Black people look and sound like.”

“I make a hard distinction between Black conservatives and these tokens” – referring to Senator Tim Scott (R-SC) and Walker – “who are out here right now, shucking and jiving for their white handlers.”

“Walker has positioned himself into being a useful fool for those who don’t have the best interests of Black people or this democracy at heart.”

“[Herschel Walker’s] irrelevant to the Black community, and we should treat him as such.”

“Herschel Walker, the football star turned Georgia Senate candidate, is an animated caricature of a Black person drawn by white conservatives.”

“Most white people in the South vote ‘R’ like their entire white supremacist project depends on it.”

“Georgia Republicans want Walker because he’s Black and Warnock is Black, and they think they can defeat Warnock in November if they can shave just a little of the Black vote…”

“Mr. Walker was merely a vessel for the G.O.P. and Mr. Trump’s ambitions.”

“He’s a puppet on a string, and somebody’s pulling those strings really good.”

[Medulla Oblongata]

[Same time frame as above]

Not to be outdone in using racist attacks against blacks, the Democrats seem intent on racist attacks on Hispanics, too.

Democratic lawmakers and liberal media outlets alike have responded to the Republican Party’s gains with Latino voters by attacking Hispanic Republicans. Flores’s opponent in November, Rep. Vicente Gonzalez (D., Texas), argued in June that he is more qualified than Flores because he “wasn’t born in Mexico.” Weeks later, Arizona representative Rubén Gallego (D.) said a female Hispanic Republican running for Congress in the state was not sufficiently Latina because she took her husband’s last name.

The New York Times, meanwhile, said Flores’s win marked the “Rise of the Far-Right Latina,” citing the Republican’s support for religiosity, strong borders, and traditional values. A Texas political blog that has received campaign funds from Gonzalez also attacked Flores last month, referring to the congresswoman as “Miss Frijoles,” “Miss Enchiladas,” and a “cotton pickin’ liar.”

“Who does this Mayra Flores think she is? Somebody said she was crowned Miss Frijoles 2022 in San Benito,” Texas political blogger Jerry McHale, who has received $1,200 from Gonzalez’s campaign, wrote on July 2. “She isn’t in congressman Vicente Gonzalez’s league. She isn’t even in the bush leagues unless she doesn’t shave her p**sy.”

[damikesc]

Hey, when did Pluggo write for WaPo?

[Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

Where is that bitch? Is he off sulking, and raping children?

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Even here our resident progressives were calling Republican blacks "shine boys", "lawn jockeys", "Uncle Toms" and "jungle bunnies".

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

The sour grapes coming from these people is enough to fill all of Napa Valley.

[R Mac]

Charlamagne Tha God Says it's Fine to Misgender ‘Rich White Man’ Caitlyn Jenner Because She Voted Trump

https://x.com/lovebscott/status/1856357399621202287

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

It was always about the Party. It was never actually about racism or homophobia. The whole political correctness bit was always just a weapon to attack the other with.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

It was always about the Party. It was never actually about racism or homophobia. The whole political correctness bit was just a weapon to attack the other with.

[DRM]

It's unfortunate that Trump is naming a UN Ambassador instead of planning the immediate US withdrawal from, and expulsion from US soil of, that entirely cancerous institution.

[Randy Sax]

^ +1

[R Mac]

Yes.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

I'd withdraw, but let them stay. Just start rejecting their diplomatic credentials and start towing their illegally parked cars.

[Jefferson Paul]

Hell, we could pay off the national debt if they just started forcing the diplomats to pay their parking tickets.

[damikesc]

Indeed. We need out of there ASAP.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Should have been done long ago.

[Tyval Dayall]

Someone needs to point out to Trump he can make a ton of money by building some condos on the land the UN occupies.

[JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

Scenes from California:

Keep and increase sales tax dedicated to combating homelessness that in reality funds Democrat groups.

https://calmatters.org/commentary/2024/11/measure-a-los-angeles-homelessness/

Increase public school indoctrination.

Corey A. DeAngelis, school choice evangelist
@DeAngelisCorey
BREAKING: A California public school teacher had a meltdown in class on Election Day.

He lashed out at a student for wearing a Trump hat, called Christians a “bunch of losers” for voting for him, called him a “child molester” and “rapist” & MORE.

I have the audio.
Buckle up

https://x.com/DeAngelisCorey/status/1855719002510672093

Increase gas taxes to fund green energy.

https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/californias-new-gas-diesel-fees-boost-prices-nearly-050-gallon

Continue to use forced prison labor.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/state/3225599/californians-reject-outlaw-forced-labor-inmates/

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Good on the kid who recorded that for narcing the teacher out. Dude sounded like a crazy person.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Great thread. Not that I'd ever vote for DeAngelis. I heard he's gay.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Does Sarc know?

[Sandra (formerly OBL)]

"What are the left-coded dude hobbies and obsessions?"

Attending child drag shows.
Watching The Handmaid's Tale.
Listening to Taylor Swift.

[Chumby]

Joining the Fiona and Emma fan clubs.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Eating 55-gallon drums of Ben & Jerry's and Costco-sized drums of cheesy poofs.

[Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

Raping little boys.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

Jerking off to tranny porn while his girlfriend is screwing a real man

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Cuck shed interior design.

[JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

Working together to convert sarc to the left.

[Chumby]

That transition is essentially now complete.

[Idaho-Bob]

Posting TikToks (overweight and wearing make-up) and talking about how bad MAGAs are.

Sometimes threatening violence if pronouns are incorrect.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

But enough about a certain commenter/fifty-center here.

[Spiritus Mundi]

Cats
Man bun fashion
Artisian soap making
Ways to avoid using said soap
Birkenstocks
Cats

[Zeb]

I don't know. Soap making seems like some back to the land prepper shit. I'm pretty sure that's right wing now.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Well, there's soap to use after butchering a hog or repairing a tractor, and soap to put in little baskets in the powder room that never gets wet.

[Zeb]

I wouldn't know about the latter.

[Chumby]

Well done sir.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

How exactly you would build a "Rogan, but for the left"?

Rogan was the Rogan for the left and hasn't changed his views one iota. The ones who now identify themselves as the left are the ones with a different ideology, namely fascism.

[A Thinking Mind]

Plus, the left has Hollywood. Basically all of them. Name a famous celebrity-95% odds they endorsed Kamala and are calling Trump Hitler.

They have tons of popular figures that people respect, they’re just finding one guy who is popular and endorsed Trump and complaining he swung the election. Maybe nominate a candidate who can go on Rogan’s show, sit for a long interview, and not be a complete embarrassment.

[damikesc]

Well, Kamala did pay them handsomely to do so.

[JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

FDA forces Costco butter recall for dangerous ingredients... milk.

https://www.foodandwine.com/costco-kirkland-signature-butter-recall-8742337

On November 7, the FDA classified the recall as Class II, which means it is "a situation in which use of, or exposure to, a violative product may cause temporary or medically reversible adverse health consequences or where the probability of serious adverse health consequences is remote."

The recalled products, which were both produced and distributed in Texas, includes 1,300 cases, (amounting to about 46,800 pounds) of Kirkland Signature Unsalted Sweet Cream Butter, and 900 cases (amounting to 32,400 pounds) of Kirkland Signature Salted Sweet Cream Butter. The products all come with "best by" dates between February 22, 2025 and March 29, 2025.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

All because the label didn't explicitly state the butter contains a milk product. It's fucked in the head, and people should not return this butter.

[Idaho-Bob]

"Canned Ham" - Contains pork.

[Randy Sax]

"Peanuts" - Contains Peanuts

[Don't look at me!]

“Morton’s Salt”
Contains salt.

[Chumby]

White Mike’s Spring Water

- Contains HO2

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

And CACLLs

Can you believe - he coined that ! So clever

[Chumby]

White Mike’s Turducken

- GMO like all turducken

[JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

Frank Fighting For Freedom
@thinktankfranks
BREAKING

Trump announces full conceal carry reciprocity

WHAT THIS MEANS:
No matter which state you’re in, if you’ve got your concealed carry license, each state will still have to honor it - for example, you have a Florida concealed carry permit - California would have to honor it.

HUGE

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Sounds vaguely libertarian, respecting 2A that way. Watch Reason oppose it.

[R Mac]

Probably just ignore it. 2A isn’t one of their priorities.

[rbike]

I don't want to get a permit. Don't really need one where I live. But I do not carry into Illinois.

[Medulla Oblongata]

I've often wondered why Obergefell could force marriage licenses issued in one state to be valid everywhere, and why drivers licenses are valid in all states, but why carry permits aren't.

I wondered, too, why after Obergefell the ruling had instantaneous effect and court clerks were forced to comply immediately, but Heller? Nah, we'll putz around for 2 or 3 years and still not really comply...

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Cuz that's how the left wing establishment does Resist?

[Zeb]

Why are carry permits a thing at all? It's been nice not needing one, but I guess I'd get one again if full reciprocity came into effect.

[Longtobefree]

I will get a permit to exercise my constitutional rights the day after the media get their first amendment permits.

[Stupid Government Tricks]

Yes, but California rules would still apply, such as sensitive places.

Same as knowing the different traffic laws, such as turning right on red.

[Chumby]

YUGE!

[chemjeff radical individualist]

“What are the left-coded dude hobbies and obsessions?”

I would say, for starters:

cooking, and eating good food
traveling, especially traveling abroad
arts and culture

[Social Justice is neither]

So chick hobbies and activities are your idea of masculine, makes sense.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

IIRC, Anthony Bourdain was not a chick.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Bourdain

That you think cooking or appreciation of the arts are "chick hobbies" is part of the problem here.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Anthony Bourdain would punch you in the head daily for your statist, pseudo-aristocratic nonsense.

[sarcasmic]

Remember when Bourdain had a sit-down with Obama? Yeah, that's where his politics were at. If he was still alive I'm sure you and the rest of the usual suspects would be shitting on him all day long.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

Oh, that's right. Bourdain had the nerve to have dinner with Obama!

Here's a Reason interview with Bourdain, right after the 2016 election:

https://reason.com/2016/12/29/anthony-bourdain/

So, he wanted to shun chefs who worked for Trump. And the usual suspects were bashing him in the comments. So yeah, ML would not be defending Bourdain.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Bourdain had the nerve to have dinner with Obama!

Is this what drove him to suicide?

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

If the Clintons were there, I'd say yes.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

“HE HAD DINNER WITH OBAMA!!!! HE’S A PARVENUS JUST LIKE ME!!!”

Wow! You win, Lying Jeffy. He had dinner with the sitting president. Nobody ever does that unless they're in 100% agreement.

If you would have actually read your link you would have seen the utter contempt Bourdain has for people like you:

:The utter contempt with which privileged Eastern liberals such as myself discuss red-state, gun-country, working-class America as ridiculous and morons and rubes is largely responsible for the upswell of rage and contempt and desire to pull down the temple that we’re seeing now.

I’ve spent a lot of time in gun-country, God-fearing America. There are a hell of a lot of nice people out there, who are doing what everyone else in this world is trying to do: the best they can to get by, and take care of themselves and the people they love. When we deny them their basic humanity and legitimacy of their views, however different they may be than ours, when we mock them at every turn, and treat them with contempt, we do no one any good. Nothing nauseates me more than preaching to the converted. The self-congratulatory tone of the privileged left—just repeating and repeating and repeating the outrages of the opposition—this does not win hearts and minds. It doesn’t change anyone’s opinions. It only solidifies them, and makes things worse for all of us. “

[DesigNate]

He was roundly mocked and derided when he had the audacity to go into West Virginia and shoot guns and eat with the locals by those same coastal elitist.

[Super Scary]

I heard that was staged! Can you believe it?

[chemjeff radical individualist]

Anthony Bourdain is precisely the type of person that you would label as an elitist globalist progressive. He traveled the world, he was an exceptionally good chef, and he didn't put down other cultures as inferior to America's.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Anthony Bourdain is precisely the type of person that you would label as an elitist globalist progressive.

If so (and I don't know), it would be because of his ideas, not his hobbies. What will it take to get you to stop projecting your prejudices onto others?

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

What about the cultures that are demonstrably inferior?

Why do you and your Lefty boos put down much of American culture?

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

I know who Anthony Bourdain is, you stupid fuck, and he had zero tolerance for the mincing parvenus and pseudo-aristocratic warmongering snobs who populate your sacred Davos crowd, and called them out on many occasions.

Maybe if you had ever actually watched an episode or two of Parts Unknown you'd realize what obvious horseshit you are trying to spew.

[Idaho-Bob]

You can name one years-dead guy to validate your statement. Bravo.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

He is an illustrative example only. There are plenty of guys out there who like to cook and like to travel and they are no less masculine than the guys who watch sports and drink cheap beer.

[Don't look at me!]

Poor kids are just as smart as white kids

/joe Biden

[Jefferson Paul]

“The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

[Chumby]

Watching sports is for fat lazy consumers of junk food. Man-child behavior, not masculine. FFS.

[Mickey Rat]

Bourdain seemed to be tempermentally Left in his politics but was also terribly politically incorrect in how he lived, as he was against nanny-state type totalitarianism when it prevented him from doing something he wanted to do.

[Mike Parsons]

^ this here.

Ill push back on cooking a little bit, as Chef's (and the best ones) have historically been dudes. Women might in general cook more casseroles and one pot meals in the world, but the masters of the craft are often dudes, and that's fine by me.

But in general, you are correct. The shit that white guys for Harris are into, is basically chick stuff or stuff they have co-opted.

In the mainstream world, its going to fancy brunch, eating, traveling, and artsy fartsy stuff.

In the 'nerdy' world, its shit that chicks have co-opted. Disney star wars, modern D&D, the standard CW style made for chicks slop that has a veneer of nerd/scifi because mega companies sold out to left wing actors. Stuff that used to be almost entirely enjoyed by neckbeards in their basement, now is firmly under the control of pronouns-in-bio gender confused hair-colored, mentally ill women and white dudes for HArris

[chemjeff radical individualist]

^ part of the problem here, trying to classify hobbies as 'dude hobbies' or 'chick hobbies'

[Randy Sax]

You don't really have to "try" to classify certain hobbies. More women are into yoga - fact. More men are into guns - fact.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

If a man likes yoga, is that man now less 'manly'? If a woman likes shooting guns, is that woman less of a 'chick'? THAT is the problem here, that one's choice of hobbies has a direct bearing on one's personal gender identity.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

The hills that you choose to die on are bafflingly stupid.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

I have often speculated that Jeffy was bullied as a kid and assured by an over-protective mother that the bullying was because he was special and the kids were jealous when it was really because he behaved oddly and the other kids didn't like to be around him. He certainly projects that kind of creeper vibe in his posts.

THAT is the problem here, that one’s choice of hobbies has a direct bearing on one’s personal gender identity.

Note that he is the only one bringing gender identity into the conversation because he is the only one that fixates on it.

[R Mac]

Lying Jeffy definitely told the teacher when other boys behaved badly.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Single mom or double moms?

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Liane Cartman.

[Don't look at me!]

Who said this above?

“What are the left-coded dude hobbies and obsessions?”

I would say, for starters:

cooking, and eating good food
traveling, especially traveling abroad
arts and culture

[Randy Sax]

The fuck are you talking about? I genuinely don't understand. A man can be into yoga, it doesn't necessarily make him less manly. Yoga is still a chick hobby because the vast majority of participants are women.

THAT is the problem here, that one’s choice of hobbies has a direct bearing on one’s personal gender identity. Not at ALL. Worst take I have seen in a while.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Yeah, but some hobbies are central to some people's lives. And making yoga, especially the spiritual dimension, central to your life is probably more feminine than masculine.

[Randy Sax]

Agreed that it is more feminine, but some some dreadlocked hippie douche being super into yoga and fucking all the chicks he brainwashes does not make him less of “a man”.

[Chumby]

Turns out that hippie douche is in a class of trans women. They downward facing dog him from behind.

[damikesc]

Much like how, despite the laughable "the market is really 50/50" crap, video games are an overwhelmingly male activity.

Women who do it, however, are not necessarily masculine. Some very much are not.

[Idaho-Bob]

Cars, motorcycles, hunting, fishing, and machines in general.

My wife can't figure out why I insist on mowing and snowplowing.

[Chumby]

Narrator’s Voice:

When Idaho Bob plows, Mrs. Idaho Bob smiles.

[Mike Parsons]

This is clearly another example of broken left wing brain. This is the result of the gender cults "everyone is a blank slate and can be anything" despite all evidence that most people fall into categories based on biological sex.

Dudes dont in general join knitting circles. Unless they are effeminate or gay. Thats just how it is.

Chicks dont in general enjoy spending their time talking about UFC/WWE. That's just how it is.

These things are obvious to everyone without an agenda or being obtuse

[chemjeff radical individualist]

Yes we know. There are strict gender roles that we are all bound to obey, for fear of social ostracism. A guy who likes yoga or *gasp* knitting! must be gay and not a 'real man' Real men like UFC, drink cheap beer, go hunting and fishing, and have sex with at least 3 women every week. What, you don't do all that? Then you're not a 'real man'!

[R Mac]

Lying Jeffy keeps telling on himself.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

Then you’re not a ‘real man’!

You are literally the only person saying this. Quit projecting your childhood traumas onto others.

[sarcasmic]

Cooking is for women. Most chefs are men
Sewing is for women. Most tailors are men.
Traveling is for women. Most pilots are men.

[R Mac]

Here’s sarc disagreeing with Lying Jeffy but he’s to stupid to realize that’s what he’s doing.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

He really is.

Cooking daily meals in the home is for women. Most people who do it for a job are men.
Sewing your own clothes at home is for women. Most people who do it for a job are men.
Traveling for pleasure is for women. Most people who do it for a job are men.

Both men and women do all these things, especially in Western cultures, but around the world, far more men do these things as a job.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

If someone else had made sarc's exact post above, sarc and/or jeff would call it misogyny.

[Mike Parsons]

"Traveling is for women. Most pilots are men."

Homework assignment for you sarc. Think about this some more, then come back and give us a report about how stupid of an analogy this is. We can give you help if you want, but it pokes about 5 holes in itself if you simply say it out loud.

[damikesc]

Are you aware of what "don't IN GENERAL" means?

[Zeb]

No one is bound to obey. It works out that way because men and women are not exactly the same. There is a lot of overlap on personality and interest, but there is also a lot of divergence on the tails. Certain activities aren't considered more masculine or feminine because someone decided that's how it should be. It's because on average men and women have different interests and preferences.

[R Mac]

And yet you have no issue classifying hobbies by other demographics.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

^ part of the problem here, trying to classify hobbies as ‘dude hobbies’ or ‘chick hobbies’

When the vast majority of the people doing the hobby are dudes or chicks, that's not a problem, it's an observation of reality.

[Medulla Oblongata]

^ part of the problem here, trying to classify hobbies as ‘left hobbies’ or ‘right hobbies’

Of course, the smug self-superiority blazing through in your list does you no favors.

[Social Justice is neither]

Yes, I took Jeff's slate of hobbies as a whole rather than disect the ramblings of a retard.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

cooking, and eating good food

Note Jeff's circularity (and pomposity) here. If it's food that leftists eat, it's good food. How do you know they're leftists? They eat good food. How do you know it's good food? - leftists eat it.

[Don't look at me!]

Jeff is a fucking idiot.

[Super Scary]

It's primarily the "eating" part that the left loves. That's why they are so hell bend on getting people from every other country to come here. They're not allowed to cook other culture's food, so they have to bring those people over here.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

No, it's more the talking about food and eating than just eating. Guys are more likely to just cook something they like and eat it. Women are more likely to talk about "good food" for hours before and after.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

Jeffy is flailing. Cooking steaks (the best food that exists) is as right-coded as it gets. Ditto for eating steak, brisket, ribs, etc. Ditto for travelling for adventure.

What is left (and left-coded) of Jeffy's list is accepting what elite "experts" define as culture. So NPR has it covered.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

How is cooking horse meat coded?

[Medulla Oblongata]

How is cooking cats coded?

[DesigNate]

Racist!

/s

[R Mac]

Yeah, see my post above. He’s really telling on himself when he says culture is a left wing hobby.

[JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

This is why I state Jeff actually isn't intelligent. He thinks following left wing norms and left wing ideas makes him cultured and intelligent. He doesn't treat himself as an individual, but a cog in left wing culture. Someone always decides for him what he should do. He has no curiosity to discover what he likes to do. It is always virtue signaling and acceptance with him.

[DesigNate]

The left are the only ones with culture!

[Medulla Oblongata]

I see, largely the "enlightened, educated" things that all the brutish, unenlightened cretins cannot appreciate because they are too poor and stupid.

I like to cook and eat good food (Mrs Oblongatta appreciates it when I "chef things up"). I can spatchcock a chicken and make my ow pizza dough. I have traveled internationally (Rome, Paris, Amsterdam...) when I was younger, but prefer to stay at home these days.

But I like also like art, classical music. I also have an advanced degree (MS), read voraciously. OTOH, I watch a lot of college football & basketball, drink beer and bourbon, hunt & fish on occasion. I like to use my chainsaw in my woods to cut firewood, that I split with a maul to help heat our house in the colder months. Mowing the fields with the tractor is also somewhat enjoyable zen time.

[Roberta]

I usually make my own pizza dough, but yesterday to use up some stuff I had around, I tried something different: I made pizza from batter with flour, water, baking soda, jarred marinara sauce, dried oregano, green peppers and sweet Italian sausage that I pre-microwaved and cut up. This I baked like cake in a buttered and floured pan until dry but slightly under-done. Then I topped it with thin slices of yellow squash , shredded mozzarella, and shredded Mexican blend cheese before baking again. I liked eating the product. Different from my usual process, but much faster and easier.

[R Mac]

I don’t have an advance degree, although I do have a lot of post bachelors education, Mrs. Mac does the baking in our house so she makes the dough, and it’s Rome (and Sicily which is far more different from Rome than I thought it would be), Edinburgh, Frankfurt (highly recommend the on-off riverboat tickets down the Rhine for a couple days) and Dublin, and I don’t have a tractor. Otherwise same here.

Does the not baking cancel out the tractor or does otherwise liking to cook make me more left wing than you by Lying Jeffy’s classification?

[rbike]

I just wish I had a tractor. Just can't justify i.

[Roberta]

What direction do my hobbies and interests code in?:

• fireworks, mostly in the making but also the displaying
• foam (bubble) bath
• coaching children in American football
• cooking creatively and resourcefully
• (formerly) playing rugby
• watching minor league men's and women's American football
• (formerly) wargaming; table gaming generally
• molecular biology
• northern European paganism
• (formerly) off-road bicycling
• solving Lost
• listening to WFMU and its alternate streams

[R Mac]

“American football”

This is code for something…

[Roberta]

It's code for knowing there's a lot of types of football. Also helps immunize against soccer hegemonists who say, "I thought you meant real football." But notice that ruggers have by and large stopped referring to that game as "rugby football".

[Chumby]

Where does Australian rules football intersect with this?

[Roberta]

It's a type of football, like it says. The coach in me thinks it and its sister game Gaelic football are the least interesting common versions of football, but they count. There are even versions of football without that word in their name: speedball and speed-a-way.

[Jefferson Paul]

Related:

I always find it amusing when a Brit gets butthurt about Americans calling soccer "soccer." Where do they think we got that name for it? It came from Britain when they were just starting to have leagues and a consensus rulebook, called "association football." Association got shortened to "soc" and people played "soccer."

[Roberta]

And a lot of them don't realize it was commonly called that in Britain until this generation, and that it's also called that in other English-speaking countries and even in such non-English-speaking countries as Japan (where the word for it sounds like "socka"). It does bother me a bit that rugby organizations, both Union and League, just seemed to roll over in dropping the word "football" from their names over the past half century — although it's said by some that they wanted to distance themselves from association (heh) with soccer.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

“What are the left-coded dude hobbies and obsessions?”

This is such massively annoying beep-boop NPC boilerplate (I've noticed all the lefty media bobbleheads are squawking out "media ecosystem" since they got their software update). These people treat activities like a video game where they just need to put in the proper "codes" and all these dudebros will suddenly become True and Honest Progressives. It has the same flavor of condescension as lefty "journalists" who decide to exit their urban bubbles and visit "small town America" for a week, like Diane Fossey going to study apes in Gorillas in the Mist, treating people's lives like an anthropological study or travelogue.

They can't help but come off as pompous when they do shit like this, because they treat this kind of journalism like a "life experience" bucket list item rather than a sincere attempt to document what they're reporting on.

[Medulla Oblongata]

...has the same flavor of condescension as lefty “journalists” who decide to exit their urban bubbles and visit “small town America” for a week...

If you haven't seen them yet, find the Babylon Bee's "California couple moves to Texas" shorts on Youtube or where ever.

[Medulla Oblongata]

The Buc-ee's one...

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Once upon a time I led a company trip from Houston to west Texas. We had several vehicles and I drove a Suburban filled with people from our Norway office. After a few hours we stopped, and without thinking much of I we pulled into Buc-ee's. It was around 6pm on a Friday in deer hunting season. What looked normal to me, lots of pickups with gear rigged for hunting, people in camo, guns being compared in the parking lot, was mind-blowing for the Norwegians.

[Chumby]

Making gay pornography in a senate hearing room.

As for traveling abroad, passport bros is a red pill thing.

[Jerry B.]

Glitchy.

[Jerry B.]

Glitchy again.

[Jerry B.]

And if you cook and eat good food before you leave for the rifle range?

[Medulla Oblongata]

Of course...

"In 2021, LADOT published the study's final report, titled Changing Lanes: A Gender Equity Transportation Study. The report concluded that women of color were systemically failed by the Los Angeles transportation system.

[Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)]

You ever drive behind a sista?

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)]

That's racist.

And don't get behind one in a buffett line either.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

That’s racist.

...said shrike, while pointing at a mirror.

[JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)]

Man. Took a week for you to learn the new post election narratives from your bosses. People were asking where the pedo went, so guess welcome back?

[Medulla Oblongata]

Man, we were hoping you'd self-immolated.

[Jefferson Paul]

In all honesty, that was funny.

*disclaimer: This is not an endorsement of Bushpig2 or any of his other posts

[damikesc]

Are women of color more likely to run into curbs or something?

[Moderation4ever]

I have no problem believing that 70% of the dead in Gaza are women and children. They are dead because Hamas uses them as shields to hide behind. If Hamas really wants to stop the killing of innocents all they have to do is surrender or walk out to meet the Israelis on the battlefield.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

They are dead because Hamas uses them as shields to hide behind. If Hamas really wants to stop the killing of innocents all they have to do is surrender or walk out to meet the Israelis on the battlefield.

You got 3/4 of your post absolutely correct.

[Zeb]

I'm certainly not happy about the death. But, yeah, if you don't want that, don't start a war in a densely populated place. War sucks. But when you're in it, you're in it.

[R Mac]

And now, out of nowhere, for who knows why, Qatar is going to expel the Hamas leaders that have been chilling there, not dealing with the consequences of their actions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/qatar-orders-hamas-to-leave-in-major-blow-to-terror-group-s-leaders/ar-AA1tMCJO

[JFree]

When Hamas gets to the battlefield, it will be easy to distinguish the IDF from other combatants. They'll be the ones hiding behind women's underwear

[Medulla Oblongata]

"How exactly you would build a "Rogan, but for the left"? Who would it be, how would they get big?"

You don't. The left tried for many years to create a left's Rush Limbaugh and failed, failed, failed. Indeed, they failed to create much success at all in left-facing talk radio. Just seems to be almost no market for it, given the market-flooding presence of general leftist ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WaPo...creating niche talk shows about leftist stuff seems superfluous and never seems to get traction.

I wonder how many people actually watch Rachel Maddow vs simply tuning their TVs to that channel at the designated time just in case one of their comrades should visit or call ("Oh, nothing, I'm just watching Rachel Maddow...") and the proper virtue signals can be conveyed. Kinda like how you had to have a picture of Lenin on your tenement wall in Soviet Russia, just in case...

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

he left tried for many years to create a left’s Rush Limbaugh

The daily show guy is about the closest thing; although there is no way he could have survived on radio. It seems to me the leftists have to have a brain-dead audience in the room, like seals to laugh and clap at the applause sign. They don't lend themselves well to the talk radio format with callers who can challenge their bullshit in real time.

[Michael Ejercito]

The Joe Rogan for the left was Joe Rogan.

[Medulla Oblongata]

No, Joe Rogan was left before. Progressives moved way way further left, so very far left, leaving Joe Rogan high-and dry in the new middle. Which, by progressive reckoning means he is a right-wing fascist.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

One rightward shift that Rogan has made in recent years is toward guns and gun ownership; I suspect due to the influence of Taran Butler. I don't recall him being into that 10-15 years ago.

[(Good Riddance Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring]

NPR has been the talk radio go-to for liberals forever. For blacks it's some dude who calls himself "Charlemagne tha God" (a bit narcissistic, are we?)

Of course none of them have even close to the audience or clout Limbaugh had. In all likelihood no one on radio ever will again.

[Roberta]

These things don't come about by trying. The "left" has, however, had some great radio talk hosts like Malachy McCourt and Lyn Samuels. But deliberately trying to do such a thing to produce something "left" or "right" results in pap like Sean Hannity.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)]

Former Soros top advisor Scott Bessent in line to become Trump Treasury Secretary.

/www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-12/key-advisers-to-trump-back-bessent-for-treasury-secretary

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Bessent was part of Soros's team when they crashed the British Pound. He has since claimed to have repented and has been a Trump supporter since 2016, but I think he's too tainted by association.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)]

"They" crashed the British pound?

Such ignorance.

The British government had nothing to do with It in your simpleton worldview?

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd, the shit-stain of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

“They” crashed the British pound? Such ignorance.

Stupidity like this is why Open Society fired you.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/08/george-soros-bank-of-england.asp

"Soros used his hedge fund, Quantum Fund, to borrow billions of pounds from various banks and sell them for other currencies, such as German marks or U.S. dollars.

This created a huge demand for other currencies and a huge supply of pounds, which drove down the value of the pound in the market. Soros also used derivatives, such as options and futures contracts, to amplify his bets and increase his leverage.

The British government and the Bank of England tried to stabilize their currency by raising their interest rates and buying back pounds from the market. On Sept. 16, 1992, they announced that they would raise their interest rates to 12% from 10%, and then again to 15%, to attract investors to buy pounds and support their exchange rate.

They also spent billions of pounds from their foreign exchange reserves to buy back pounds from speculators like Soros.

However, these measures weren't enough to counteract the massive selling pressure from Soros and other shorts. The market, moreover, did not believe that Britain could sustain such high interest rates for long without damaging its domestic economy. Britain’s foreign exchange reserves were limited and running out fast.

Behind the scene, Germany was also trying to help keep the pound in the ERM. German officials made public statements that realignment within the ERM might be possible in mid-September, Yet, in response to these comments by German officials, Soros decided to increase the size of his bet massively. He moved to a massive $10 billion position from $1.5 billion in the middle of September.

Because of his key role in Black Wednesday, George Soros is known for "breaking the Bank of England."

As a result, the pound plunged in value by about 15% against the mark and 25% against the dollar. Soros made about $1 billion in profit as a result of his successful action against the pound.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd, the TDS-addled shit-stain of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

The only reason to bring in a former Soros advisor is to get intel on the enemy camp.

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)]

Little Marco Goes Global
Plus: Trump island

Lil' Taco has partied at Jeffy's Island too?

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

What's the difference between Epstein's Island and Buttplug's basement?

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

Epstein had some honor.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

The average age of the "talent"?

[Chumby]

Epstein island didn’t have the host in blackface.

[Sandra (formerly OBL)]

I was wondering if you'd be too embarrassed to show up after your political party suffered the most humiliating defeat in history for the second time in 8 years.

Have you disbanded your local chapter of White Dudes for Harris, by the way?

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)]

Yes, my party (the Gridlock Party) is fucked now that we have total GOP control.

See 2003-2006, 2017-2018 for relevant Big Government fuck-ups.

No embarrassment here, Sandy Baby. US Gridlockers are like sand in the vaseline.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Do you ever tire of lying, Shrike?

[Chumby]

What happened to your original account? Did it get stuck in gridlock?

[Jefferson Paul]

I thought you would give up on claiming you are for "gridlock" when you ardently supported Warnock in the runoff election of 2020. Warnock winning meant the Dems controlled the Senate, House, and White House.

[Chumby]

Pluggo is for kidlock - a device for keeping those missing trick-or-treaters that had stopped by his single wide from escaping.

[DesigNate]

But you see, shrike has no principles and is a Dem shill.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Better close out that account of yours before January, when drumpf starts tanking bidens’ shit-hot economy. You know, the account that you told us ballooned from 1k to 500k?

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd, the TDS- addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[Medulla Oblongata]

"I can think of a million right-coded ones––weed and DMT and UFC and weightlifting and comedy and nutrition and weird supplements and paranormal shit––but what are the equivalents on the left?"

WTF makes these "right-coded"? I don't include any of those among my hobbies.

[Chupacabra]

They're just a list of things that Rogan loves.

[Randy Sax]

What are the left-coded dude hobbies and obsessions? I can think of a million right-coded ones––weed and DMT and UFC and weightlifting and comedy and nutrition and weird supplements and paranormal shit––but what are the equivalents on the left?

Watching your wife and her boyfriend bang while you hide in the closet?

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)]

I thought that was a cuckservative thing - see the Rev Jerry Falwell Jr and him watching the pool boy bang his wife among examples.

[Sandra (formerly OBL)]

The party you shill for every day just got handed its worst Presidential loss since the 1980s. By a guy it claimed is an "existential threat to democracy."

How does that feel?

[Chumby]

He’s likely ok; for the past week, he’s been in the barrel.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[Ajsloss]

Watching your wife and her boyfriend bang while you hide in the closet?

Almost always dressed as Superman.

[Roberta]

Shit. Mark O'Rubio (that's how I thought for years his name was spelled) was one of the very people I wanted to keep out of power who made me glad Trump ran for president in 2016. A caricature of all I detest about American "conservatism".

[Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)]

Jeb Bush is in line for Education Secretary.

Herschel Walker at Energy.

MTG for Ambassador to Israel.

[Sandra (formerly OBL)]

Which of your party's losses was more traumatic for you: 2016 or 2024?

I'd think 2024 was even worse because something that happened 2 out of 3 times can't be written off as a fluke.

[damikesc]

I'd also losing double digits of millions of voters might hurt.

And not make 2020 look suspicious in any way.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

Oh, oh, the return of s lying pile of lefty shit. turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

[chemjeff radical individualist]

MTG for Ambassador to Israel.

That would be awesome. Maybe she can steal some of that Jewish Space Laser technology and bring it back here.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAZhtT-dUyo

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Ask your pal J(ew)Free about it.

[(Good Riddance Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring]

Look at which gutless coward finally crawled out from under his rock.

If you had Tuesday the 12th in the pool, congratulations!

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

La Leche becomes Le Lecher.

[Ska]

Bebe mi leche means something very different to people who speak Latinx.

[lwt1960]

I wish you had put the UN story up above in the opinion section, so you could call out yet another piece of propaganda from the UN. I wouldn't be surprised if Francesca Albanese was a co-author of the study. If the UN ever had the imprimatur of a respectable outfit to be trusted (certainly unearned), that was squandered long ago.

[JFree]

There is nothing unusual about the demographics of death in Gaza. In all bombing/artillery attacks in urban areas the dead are equivalent to the demographics of the entire population. Only when the casualties are gunshot do the casualties become mostly adult male. Gaza is almost entirely a video game 'war' not anything face to face that might deliver PTSD.

The Israeli doctrine in this ‘war’, called the Dahiya doctrine, is to use the free unlimited bombs they get from the US to bomb the civilian population. Not carpet bombing but rather feeding high acceptance of civilian casualties – explicitly 800,000 in the event all the expected 40,000 Hamas soldiers are killed – into an AI model that generates as many targets as the US sends bombs.- And then every few weeks have a ‘US’ diplomat present terms of surrender while calling it a ceasefire to the world. The Israeli army has done very little fighting itself – in Gaza or Lebanon. As can be seen from IDF soldiers tiktoks. The US is doing the genocide. The IDF is prancing around in women’s underwear documenting war crimes.

The 44,000 deaths being recorded and cited in Gaza are entirely military violence deaths where the body makes it to hospital or a morgue. The real number is significantly higher. Not included at all is the current slaughter in North Gaza or the deaths by starvation, epidemic, and the other effects of the deliberate destruction of hospitals – which is now well over 100,000 and probably closer to 200,000.

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

"...The US is doing the genocide..."

And JFucked is providing the lies.
FOAD, asshole.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Sinwar's brother is still alive; he could use another bodyguard - you should apply, shit-stain.

[Commenter_XY]

JFree, feel free to fly your ass to gaza and help your hamas homies out

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

"...calling Hamas "100 percent to blame" in response to a question about civilian deaths in Gaza..."

Correct.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

'Judge Maxwell Wiley denied the request but told Penny's lawyers, "I see what you're getting at."'

"And I will do everything I can to stop you and get the verdict I want."

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

"Newsom calls special session to fund California's legal defense against Trump"
[...]
"Launching his first salvo less than 36 hours after former President Trump was again elected to the White House, Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday convened a special session of the state Legislature to increase legal funding to defend civil rights, climate change, access to abortion, disaster funding and other California policies from a conservative federal agenda before the inauguration in January..."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newsom-calls-specialjimmy%20doresession-to-fund-california-s-legal-defense-against-trump/ar-AA1tGO8a?ocid=BingNewsVerp

Long a champion of funding legal challenges in losing battles.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

We here in Michigan have something to be thankful for. As much as Whitmer sucks, she's not Newsom.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

'The United Nations has thrown its weight behind Hamas' claim that 70 percent of the dead in Gaza are women and children, not militants.'

Does that include 30-something male fighters who identify as 8 year old girls?

[Medulla Oblongata]

And does it include the same kid who was "killed" several times over? And the kid that kept wiggling and scratching his leg while his "father" was "mourning" over his "dead" body?

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

'How exactly you would build a "Rogan, but for the left"?'

It already exists. See The View, or Rachel Madcow.

Liz, a pop "every-person" figure for the left will not be male. And will therefore not have male characteristics, like hobbies, a sense of humor, enjoyment of poking fun at the establishment, and beer-fueled bro-style conversations.

[Sometimes a Great Notion]

Liberals already have Joe Rogan. They just need to ditch the progressives who forced him out.

[A Thinking Mind]

It's actually hilarious that they're salty about him. You force a guy out by calling him toxic and hateful, and then you look at his popularity and say, "aww, man, why isn't he on our team?"

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Yeah, those same dickheads tried to get him thrown off Spotify because he had the audacity to take alternative medical treatments with established pharmaceuticals when he caught COVID.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Are we at all surprised?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/jayapal-admits-she-only-wanted-to-nuke-the-filibuster-when-democrats-controlled-the-senate/ar-AA1tVF3Y

"Jayapal admits she only wanted to nuke the filibuster when Democrats controlled the Senate"

"Look, I think this is where it goes back to before this election, right? If we had had control of the trifecta and got rid of the filibuster to pass minimum wage, to pass paid sick leave, to pass many of these things that are passing abortion access...I don't think it's in opposition at all. I think, obviously, would I be, am I championing getting rid of the filibuster now, when the [GOP] has the trifecta?" Jayapal continued. "No, but had we had the trifecta, I would have been because we have to show that government can deliver."

Jayapal posted online that "The filibuster was originally created *by mistake* in 1806. Every day we don’t abolish it is just as big a mistake."

Jayapal also has a section on her House website dedicated to eliminating the "Jim Crow filibuster."

[Ajsloss]

What are the left-coded dude hobbies and obsessions?

Pretending to be women?

[Medulla Oblongata]

LARPing as women.

[Dillinger]

>>Rubio is … taking a hard-line stance on curbing human rights abuses … and … advocates shifting manufacturing back to America

it’s wrong the Uyghyrs make the NBA jerseys.

[Roberta]

Heck, it's wrong the Uyghyrs are stuck with a name that sounds like "wiggers".

[Dillinger]

ridiculous spelling is how they managed to survive thousands of years?

[Ajsloss]

It’s their sense of humor that sustained them as a people for 3,000 years.

[Dillinger]

lol is it right to buy a Chrysler?

[Roberta]

There's another one: Fritz Kreisler stuck with that name.

[Mike Parsons]

Uyghyrs make the NBA jerseys, wiggers wear them

[Dillinger]

>>The case isn't looking great for Daniel Penny ... on trial for manslaughter for his role in the subway killing of erratic homeless man Jordan Neely, 30.

directed verdict motion on the "hey morons the dude was still alive when cops showed" fail or something? how is this still a trial?

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

If Penny is convicted, will he get the first Trump pardon?

[Dillinger]

seems like last guy on earth who deserves conviction but idk is he up on a federal crime?

[Jefferson Paul]

Manslaughter is a state crime, right? So I don't see how Trump could pardon him. Or am I misunderstanding the president's pardon powers?

[damikesc]

Yeah, when the lunatic is seen breathing well after Penny let go of him, Penny did not kill him.

But the whole "Why won't men stop crimes" is being answered. Because when men do, shit like this happens. Sorry ladies, but this is all on you.

[Bill Dalasio]

But, but, damikesc, I'm sure chemjeff will be along shortly to explain to us that Penny is fully deserving of whatever punishment he receives for his sheer level of toxic masculinity!

Attacking aggressors! He's just as bad as them!

[Bill Dalasio]

But, but, damikesc, I'm sure chemjeff will be along shortly to explain to us that Penny is fully deserving of whatever punishment he receives for his sheer level of toxic masculinity!

Attacking aggressors! He's just as bad as them!

[Bill Dalasio]

But, but, damikesc, I'm sure chemjeff will be along shortly to explain to us that Penny is fully deserving of whatever punishment he receives for his sheer level of toxic masculinity!

Attacking aggressors! He's just as bad as them!

[Medulla Oblongata]

WTF Nancy?

https://civildeadline.com/pelosi-comments-on-immigration

In a recent interview with The New York Times, Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) made a controversial claim, asserting that fewer illegal aliens entered the United States under President Joe Biden’s administration compared to President-elect Donald Trump’s first term.

“I don’t think we were clear enough by saying fewer people came in under President Biden than came under Donald Trump,” Nancy Pelosi

[Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment]

She's competing with leakin' Joe in the advanced senility event.

[damikesc]

No. Biden gave untold millions "legal" status on the basis of nothing.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

That's actually not an exaggeration. Compare her to what she was like in 2020, and she seems to be going on a similar decline over the last couple of years. $100 says she ends up dying at her desk as a dementia-addled wreck like her fellow San Franciscan Dianne Feinstein.

[Don't look at me!]

I was told immigrants were a good thing. Why is less better?

[Dillinger]

>>Florida Sen. Marco Rubio will most likely be picked as secretary of state

makes sense. fresh blood in the senate from Florida and Marco is perpetually out of town instead of making Gang of Eight deals

[Dillinger]

>>How exactly you would build a “Rogan, but for the left”?

kobayashi maru. there are zero men on The Left.

[Dillinger]

>>Does such irreverence, such looseness, even exist among any lefty dude-whisperer?

the clear answer to this is the first 10 minutes of Marc Maron's day-after-election podcast

[Dillinger]

>> although some deaths may have been the result of errant projectiles by Palestinian armed groups," reports the BBC.

and right there is how the BBC perpetuates the lies in the first 19 words of the sentence. ketchup.

[Dillinger]

I see you highlighted your friend Dave Smith on Glenn Greenwald's tweet have you asked him about the IDF baby shootings yet?

[sarcasmic]

Still haven't figured out why Trump defenders are up in arms about Uyghurs being enslaved. They're mostly Muslim. Trump wouldn't let them into the country because of their religion, but it's bad to enslave them? What's up with that?

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Still haven’t figured out why Trump defenders are up in arms about Uyghurs being enslaved.

Try thinking in principle for a change.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

You may be asking the impossible of him.

[Super Scary]

" Trump wouldn’t let them into the country because of their religion, but it’s bad to enslave them?"

Slavery is bad, yes. I thought we were all in agreement about that?

[sarcasmic]

Slavery of humans is bad. But the Uyghurs are Muslim. Religion of hate and terrorists and all that. Gazans are Muslim, and it’s ok to kill them by the tens of thousands. They’re subhuman. So why is enslaving Uyghurs bad? Remember that everything is now judged by who, not what.

[Bertram Guilfoyle]

Remember that everything is now judged by who, not what.

Thank you for describing your own mentality.

[Don't look at me!]

Sick bastard.

[Super Scary]

Slavery of anyone is bad. Religion, race, age, gender, political views or your favorite soda - none of these are reasons to enslave people.

[sarcasmic]

Did you know that the 13A which abolished slavery specifically exempts people who committed crimes? Prison labor is a big business in this country. Most prisoners get paid pennies an hour, and some get paid nothing at all. And they're exempt from workplace laws as well, as in safety standards do not apply. That’s right. We still have slavery in this country, and it’s perfectly legal. You can find products made with American slave labor on the shelves of fine stores everywhere, including Kroker, Target and Whole Foods.

Who, not what.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

You could ask Kamala Harris about that.

[Super Scary]

You're sort of all over the place here. Can we go back to you equating not letting people in the US to slavery?

[sarcasmic]

Slavery of anyone is bad.

Nice backpedal, and edit.

[sarcasmic]

Can we go back to you equating not letting people in the US to slavery?

You must be eating Jesse’s stupid pills. I said nothing of the sort. I’m trying to figure out the Trump defender’s hierarchy of hatred. It’s similar to the progressive hierarchy of victimhood, except it’s who to attack first. Democrats are obviously at the top, with illegals a close second. Anything goes when attacking those subhumans. But after that it gets murky. If Chinese enslave Muslims then that’s bad. That must mean China is higher on the hierarchy of hatred than Muslims. If Muslims enslaved Chinese would that be ok?

[R Mac]

So you’re projecting again. Got it.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

"They’re subhuman. So why is enslaving Uyghurs bad? Remember that everything is now judged by who, not what."

Your pal White Mike expressed this very sentiment a few years ago when I was bitching that Reason has done almost no coverage of the Uyghur slave camps.

Buttplug seems to think they deserve it for being Muslim too.

[R Mac]

Poor sarc, reduced to repeating CNN lies.

[Medulla Oblongata]

You must be referring to the so-called (by people bent on a specific misinformation goal) "Muslim ban", which failed to ban about 1B Muslims from the myriad of countries not on the very short list of terrorist-supporting states that Trump set out.

[InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)]

Still haven’t figured out why Trump defenders are up in arms about Uyghurs being enslaved.

Slavery is bad, mmmkay. Once upon a time, a certain political party defended it here. They got their asses kicked in a war. The same political party and its sycophants seem not to care that others are enslaved elsewhere in the world. Can you guess the name of said political party?

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

There never was any “Muslim Ban” you fvckin clown. It didn’t apply to 9 of the 10 largest Muslim populations on Earth.

This is why you are universally disliked. Such laziness and stupidity, and you will continue to repeat it

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

He's trolling. He doesn't actually give a shit.

[damikesc]

I know, how can anybody oppose slavery?

[DesigNate]

That’s uh, that’s definitely a comment.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

Oh, look, another day where Sarc trolls for abuse by posting the most absurd shit he can think of while pretending it is what the people who despise Sarc think.

Clutch those pearls tighter, buddy. You seem to be losing your grip.

[sarcasmic]

I said that I don’t understand why Trump defenders like you are so up in arms about enslaving Muslims, who you hate only slightly less than illegals. I figured it was because you didn’t know that Uyghurs are Muslim. Now that you do, do you feel the same about them being enslaved? Do you pity terrorists too? Or maybe you hate China more than you hate Muslims. That would make sense.

What is the Trump defender hierarchy of hate anyway?

[R Mac]

So many “you” statements, hypocrite.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

Whole whack of projection in there, Kamala defender.

[sarcasmic]

If you weren't a Trump defender you wouldn't defend him and take offences when I talk of people who do.

I draw a distinction between Trump defenders, supporters, reluctant supporters, and voters. They're not all the same. I can sympathize with supporters. But defenders like you, not so much.

[Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)]

I am a Trump defender because stupid little Democrats like you tell lies like he was convicted of rape, or he defrauded a bank, or he called Nazis "fine people", or he colluded with Russia, and I have zero problems loudly and proudly stating that.

But you are so ashamed of your disgusting Democrat and Kamala support you refuse to admit the obvious. You know what you're doing is wrong.

[sarcasmic]

I’m not a Democrat. I don’t defend Democrats. You respond to criticism of Trump defenders.
*shrug*

[sarcasmic]

Your mom makes weak syrup, I always have to boil it down. Canadian.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

[Dillinger]

>>Rep. Elise Stefanik ... to serve as ambassador to the United Nations.

where better than the UN for her squawky high school principal act?

[Dillinger]

>>If you HAVE NOT YET SUBSCRIBED and want to EARN MY UNDYING AFFECTION, well, you know what to do.

subscription is slavery. and youtube? is there text for the hmmm emoji?

[MWAocdoc]

"Mr. Trump's expected plans to press Ukraine to find a way to come to a settlement with Russia and remain outside of NATO"

Ukraine should join NATO and get their nukes back; and the United States should leave NATO and bring our troops back home.

[Chumby]

Kiev never had the launch codes. It would be a dirty bomb like when they were shelling the nuclear power plant.

[Super Scary]

"How exactly you would build a "Rogan, but for the left"? Who would it be, how would they get big? "

For a period of time it could have been Russell Brand but he strayed from the left during the covid lock downs.

[Bill Dalasio]

I really don't think Brand would have worked for them. It's a reliability issue. Brand has a habit of going off script. That's explicitly what they don't want, or they'd be happy to have Joe Rogan as Joe Rogan around. They want a reliable shill for the talking points. The problem with that is, there really isn't that much of an audience for three hours of getting lectured at.

[mamabug]

Podcasters get popular because of the appeal to the anti-establishment strain running through their audience. The left, right now, IS the establishment in every sense of the word so even left-leaning podcasters eventually become the enemy.

[mamabug]

Podcasters get popular because of the appeal to the anti-establishment strain running through their audience. The left, right now, IS the establishment in every sense of the word so even left-leaning podcasters eventually become the enemy.

[I, Woodchipper]

Marco Rubio is a mixed bag. Not great. Not the end of the world. But that's based on his record as a senator. As SecState he'll likely just be taking direction from Trump, who is going to be fine when it comes to foreign affairs.

[damikesc]

Compared to the Sec of States of his first admin, he's a massive improvement. And compared to the current non-entity in the office, he's a superman.

[Medulla Oblongata]

https://civildeadline.com/former-harris-communications-director-discusses-harris

“There’s one promise left that he could fulfill,” Simmons declared. “He could resign the presidency in the next 30 days, make Kamala Harris president of the United States.”

Simmons took his argument to social media, posting on X (formerly Twitter) that Biden’s resignation would accomplish two things: Harris would become the first female president, and it would set a precedent that could pave the way for future women in the race to the White House. “Joe Biden has been amazing but he should fulfill one last promise — to be transitional.

Biden should resign and make Kamala Harris the first woman president. It’d turn tables on Trump, keep Kamala from presiding over Jan 6, make it easier for next woman to run,” Simmons tweeted.

Simmons continued, framing his suggestion as a way for Biden to elevate Harris to the presidency while also sparing her from presiding over Congress on January 6, when the legislative branch would officially certify her electoral loss. According to Simmons, such a move would signal a bold shift for the Democratic Party, showcasing transparency, change, and a willingness to “do things the public wants to see.”

[A Thinking Mind]

Because what we really need is to treat the Presidency as a participation award.

[Don't look at me!]

“Chicks can be president, but it has to be given to them.”

[Don't look at me!]

X (formerly Twitter)

Why are people still doing this?

[Ajsloss]

Because it's fun to dance on Twitter's grave?

[Super Scary]

I think they secretly hope it'll revert back to Twitter once they figure out how to get it out of Elon's dastardly hands.

[Eeyore]

Because when you write that you read something on X, it looks like a typo or an incomplete math equation.

[A Thinking Mind]

Because Twitter was well-branded and well established and X is just very poor branding.

[Eeyore]

Maybe they should do the latinex thing and rebrand it Twittex.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

LOL, that really would be the epitome of how the left thinks for a woman who's failed upward her whole career. Lose in humiliating fashion to someone you called Hitler for 8 years? Give her a promotion!

[Mike Parsons]

"He could resign the presidency in the next 30 days, make Kamala Harris president of the United States.”"

Reminds me of a funny podcast going through the list of all time wealthiest women in the world. Can I give you a hint as to what basically every one of them had in common? :

Either inherited corporation from daddy who built it and handed it to her, or got 50% in the divorce from hubby who built it. Not one of them had earned a cent of it.

Also hilarious that they are increasingly becoming so sure the R's, in all their bigotry, will be first to get a woman in the office, they are desperate to shove her in there. Really just the ultimate master class in virtue signaling. Not earning her way in, or anyone thinking she has the capability at all, but someone stepping in and handing it to her bc unfair. Its DEI virtue signaling embodied.

[damikesc]

Do those women have vaginas?

Vagina = earned it.

Don't you even post-modern feminism?

[Eeyore]

If I was Trump I would declare in my first week in office that I identify as a woman. We have now had our first female president. You can't deny someone's truth. The next week I would announce that I now identify as a male. It is too late to have a different first female president, because Trump was now our first female president.

[Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)]

Somebody reads through the Reason comments. I made that exact suggestion for the exact same reasons last week. They won't do it because it makes too much sense.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

Or one could say we got that out of the way, no need to keep harping on it. And did Twitter change it's name or something?

[Bill Dalasio]

How exactly you would build a "Rogan, but for the left"?

First, of things you've tweeted, this might be one of the things I've least objected to.

That said, The left had a Rogan, but for the left - Joe Rogan. The guy voted for Bernie Sanders. The problem for the left is that the very things that make Joe Rogan successful, taking a genuine interest in what even people who disagree with him might have to say, admitting limitations to his knowledge, and assuming people are speaking in good faith, are the very things that make the institutional left see as making him not a Rogan, but for the left.

What they want is something they really can't have. They want a podcaster with Rogan's degree of influence and success while still being a hack who's going to regurgitate the Party's talking points and enforce message discipline. The latter precludes the former.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

They want a podcaster with Rogan’s degree of influence and success while still being a hack who’s going to regurgitate the Party’s talking points and enforce message discipline. The latter precludes the former.

As mentioned above, they had that in Jon Stewart, but he's washed up and has no clout in the new media formats because his style doesn't translate well there, just as Rogan doing a Daily Show type of program would inevitably flop.

[I, Woodchipper]

"Trump has vowed to ease the regulatory burden on crypto and create a reserve to hold the nation's bitcoin supply. Congress will soon be full of lawmakers—young and old—who believe cryptocurrency is a unique asset class that shouldn't be regulated like stocks and bonds," reports the Wall Street Journal.

This is fantastic.

[I, Woodchipper]

this will be one of Trump's secret weapons for a successful term. In his first term, he dropped corporate taxation rates from 35 to 21 and I immediately knew he'd have a great term. This is one of those things.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

Deregulation, yes. U.S. government holding it as a reserve, not so much. It's far too volatile.

[Gaear Grimsrud]

My bitcoin ETF up 29% last 5 days.

[Eeyore]

No matter how much the government tries to regulate AI - someone will eventually release SkyNet for free.

[Incunabulum]

>Rubio is, unfortunately for libertarians, quite hawkish. He seems most interested in China affairs, taking a hard-line stance on curbing human rights abuses via government pressure, and he advocates shifting manufacturing back to America as a means of reducing reliance on Chinese imports. He has long supported Venezuelan sanctions, and he is a staunch supporter of Israel, calling Hamas "100 percent to blame" in response to a question about civilian deaths in Gaza.

These are things libertarians are supposed to oppose?

[But SkyNet is a Private Company]

Stop already, I’m already sold!

[Gaear Grimsrud]

Yeah I don't see a problem here. I think the term "hawkish" is misplaced here unless he wants a war with china. The Koch libertarians can't get their brains around the fact that Trump prefers economic pressure to war. Definitely the lesser of evils in my view.

[Social Justice is neither]

Reason libertarians are apparently pro human rights abuses, who knew.

[DesigNate]

“curbing human rights abuses via government pressure, and he advocates shifting manufacturing back to America as a means of reducing reliance on Chinese imports. He has long supported Venezuelan sanctions, and he is a staunch supporter of Israel, calling Hamas "100 percent to blame" in response to a question about civilian deaths in Gaza.”

One by one:

- government pressure seems like the appropriate way to try and get them to stop that. And as 2020 showed us, it’s pretty important that we find a way to not be over dependent on global supply chains.
- Not a fan of sanctions, just maybe don’t give them free money?
- SLD: let’s not be giving away money to anybody. But fuck Hamas, they ARE 100% responsible.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Squatters allegedly take over Colorado home of elderly man with dementia, start ‘mushroom growing operation’ inside: ‘This isn’t their first rodeo’

https://nypost.com/2024/10/22/us-news/squatters-take-over-colorado-home-of-elderly-man-with-dementia/

The daughters of a Colorado Springs couple are alleging that a homeless woman, her boyfriend and her son have taken advantage of their father, who suffers from dementia, and taken over their parents’ house of 50 years.

William Towns, 76, met the woman while he was out walking his dog and saw that she was living out of her car, his daughters wrote in a GoFundMe initiative for legal expenses. His wife, Arlene, was staying with one of her daughters while she recovered from major heart surgery.

“[The homeless woman] offered to do some household chores for him, to which he agreed. Chores turned into using his shower on occasion and then sleeping in a guest room of his home for what he understood to only be a number of days,” Towns’ daughters wrote.

But the woman “quickly took advantage” of the man, moving two non-working automobiles, many of her belongings, her 15-year-old son, her boyfriend and her cat into the house.

The Colorado Springs Police Department told Fox 21 that because the alleged squatters were invited inside, it is not trespassing, evictions are handled by the Sheriff’s Office, and that the case will likely require a court order, judge’s decision, and enforcement by El Paso County.

“From a legal perspective, the key here is the permission – if the people were not invited into the home, they’d be squatters, they’d be trespassing, and you could go directly to law enforcement,” real estate litigator Kevin Hughes, a partner at California-based Foundation Law Group, told Fox News Digital. “You still would have to go ultimately through the legal eviction process… they have rights and they have rights to due process.

“What you would need to do, you should engage an eviction lawyer. You’re going to need ultimately to write a letter, give them clear notice, and demand that any tenancy rights they have are hereby terminated, and they have to leave by this specific date. That’s the start of the process.”

If the interlopers don’t leave by that point, Hughes said, the couple can file an eviction complaint. After another 30 to 45 days, a judge may give sheriff’s deputies an order that would allow them to remove the unwanted family.

“The reality is you probably have these people staying under your roof for a couple of months, even after you start this process with that notice letter,” Hughes said.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

This is going to sound harsh, but here's an idea--maybe take on the responsibility of caring for your parents, especially if they have fucking dementia, in the last 10-20 years of their life like they took care of your dumb ass the first 20 years of yours, instead of leaving them to their own devices. Or start talking to senior homes about costs and get them into one you can afford.

This idea that parents should die alone in the house they bought 50 years ago is a thoroughly post-modern one that hasn't been practiced by most societies through all of human history.

[Marshal]

What are the left-coded dude hobbies and obsessions? I can think of a million right-coded ones––weed

Uh Liz, weed is totally a left wing hobby/lifestyle.

More specific to your question though the left doesn’t have other hobbies because politics is their hobby. Further they’ve grown it into such a comprehensive program they don’t have time for anything else.

[Zeb]

I'm certainly not happy about the death. But, yeah, if you don't want that, don't start a war in a densely populated place. War sucks. But when you're in it, you're in it.

[Mike Parsons]

This has literally been the story since go.

1- they started it

2- they hide among civilians

3- the median (mean? I forget) age is like 15. Its a country of child terrorists who are trained from birth to hate and kill jews. So when a 17 year old with an AK in his arms shooting at jews dies, its a "tragic child death" per the UN and gaza ministry

[Zeb]

Another good point. If children means under 18, then there are definitely a lot of children who are also combatants.

[Medulla Oblongata]

"You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our Country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out.

"Three years ago by a little reflection and patience they could have had a hundred years of peace and prosperity, but they preferred war; very well.

"War is the remedy our enemies have chosen. Other simple remedies were within their choice. You know it and they know it, but they wanted war, and I say let us give them all they want; not a word of argument, not a sign of let up, no cave in till we are whipped or they are.

"You might as well appeal against the thunder-storm as against these terrible hardships of war. They are inevitable, and the only way the people of Atlanta can hope once more to live in peace and quiet at home, is to stop the war, which can only be done by admitting that it began in error and is perpetuated in pride.

"I confess without shame that I am tired & sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. Even success, the most brilliant is over dead and mangled bodies […] It is only those who have not heard a shot, nor heard the shrills & groans of the wounded & lacerated (friend or foe) that cry aloud for more blood & more vengeance, more desolation & so help me God as a man & soldier I will not strike a foe who stands unarmed & submissive before me but will say ‘Go sin no more.’

[Medulla Oblongata]

But Trump is the one who will use the power of the federal government against his enemies…

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2024/11/12/fired-fema-official-not-helping-trump-voters-was-fema-policy-in-north-carolina-too-n3796922

Avoiding helping Trump supporters was a nationwide policy, according to the woman who was fired for putting it in writing.

The FEMA official who was just fired for telling workers to avoid homes impacted by the hurricanes in Florida if they had Trump signs says that it was not "isolated" and that FEMA workers were instructed to do it in the Carolinas too.

It’s another “Trump conspiracy theory” smugly fact-checked as “False”, but which turned out to be true?

https://x.com/DogRightGirl/status/1856371543913152767

[R Mac]

They tried to make her the patsy and she’s not having it. Good for her (although she’s probably still an evil bitch)

[Commenter_XY]

Can you believe this shit? If true (big if), that would really suck if senior people in DC were instructing field staff to discriminate, based on political speech or affiliation.

Loss of employment for the DC people who directed that is not enough. There have to be criminal prosecutions.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

It's like these people want to give Trump all the ammo he needs to fire their asses and take the billets completely off the manning document.

[Red Rocks White Privilege]

Yeah, I'm sure she was happy to comply, but I'm glad she's narcing everyone else out, because she shouldn't be the scapegoat for a shitty, Kirkland-inspired directive.

[Medulla Oblongata]

But sure, let's bring tens of thousands of them to the US...

SMS Alert Text:

FAA bans US civilian flights to / from Haiti for 30 days after a Spirit Airlines plane was struck by gunfire while attempting land in Port-au-Prince.

Supplemental Info:

A Spirit flight was struck by gunfire on Monday, injuring one flight attendant. Spirit Airlines Flight 951 from Fort Lauderdale, Florida, diverted to Santiago in the Dominican Republic following the incident.

Spirit, American and JetBlue have suspended Haiti flights.

Haiti is under a State Dept. LEVEL 4: DO NOT TRAVEL advisory.

SMS Alert Text:

US Embassy Haiti issues security alert warning of unpredictable and dangerous security situation. Travel within Haiti is conducted at your own risk. See email.

Supplemental Info:

Security Alert

U.S. Embassy, Port-au-Prince, Haiti

November 12, 2024

Event: Due to the continued violence throughout the city and near the U.S. Embassy, tomorrow (Tuesday, November 12, 2024), the embassy will be limiting operations. All appointments for visas and American Citizen Services are canceled. You will be contacted when a new appointment is available.

The security situation in Haiti is unpredictable and dangerous. Travel within Haiti is conducted at your own risk. The U.S. government cannot guarantee your safety traveling to airports, borders, or during any onward travel. You should consider your personal security situation before traveling anywhere in Haiti. Only attempt to depart Haiti or travel within Haiti if you believe it is safe for you to do so.

Actions to take:

Do not travel to Haiti.

If you are in Haiti:

Do not attempt to come to the embassy.
Avoid the area around Toussaint Louverture International Airport.
Avoid crowds.
Monitor local media for updates and avoid areas where violence, demonstrations, or disruptions are reported to be happening.
Keep a low profile.
Be aware of your surroundings.
Be prepared to shelter in place for an extended time period.
Avoid being outside after dark.
Stay alert in areas frequented by foreign visitors.
Review your personal security plans.
Have travel documents up-to-date and easily accessible.
Carry proper identification.

[Medulla Oblongata]

Meanwhile, the Dominican Republic is deporting thousands of Haitians every day.

[Longtobefree]

"Have travel documents up-to-date and easily accessible."

Without going to the embassy, of course.

[Earth-based Human Skeptic]

Can I fly with my pets?

[Chumby]

Your pet squirrel will be confiscated.

[Chumby]

Could explain Pluggo’s return here. His fall sexcation to Haiti was cancelled.

[Mickey Rat]

"o some, the erosion of La Leche League's boundaries may seem like no big deal, or even like progress. But to women who care about maintaining some access to female-only spaces for the sake of learning how to best nurture their children, it feels like a betrayal of the organization's longstanding and quite sacred purpose."

Tearing down Chesterton's fences because fences are mean leads to bad results.